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12 July
When it comes to achieving peak physical performance or pushing yourself
to the extreme limits of endurance what do you think is the most important
part of your physiology The ultimate arbiter of performance is actually
situated right between your ears Thatrsquos right itrsquos your brain
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Wersquove all heard of hand-eye coordination but rarely do we hear of body-eye
coordination The body adapting to a dysregulated sensor such as the
extraocular muscles of the eyes often causes the observed osteopathic
lesions and subluxations As such a convergence defect can immediately
result in a tilting of the shoulder and pelvis
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What are the effects of having fallen arches A valgus foot causes internal
rotations of the lower limbs This faulty alignment increases the risks of ankle
strains sprains and knee injuries Also this rotation increases the risk of
lower See More
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Robert Dowd according to the researchhelliplook at Eyal LeadermanhellipNOTHING
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James Dodd nice Robert Dowd more and more of the recent research says
that this is really not a problem and often a foot that pronates is a great foot - so
long as it can supinate
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Posturology reshapes the way your brain communicates with your muscles by
giving constant information to the body in order to recalibrate posture and
change faulty motor patterns Our methods are the results of clinical and
scientific studies conducted over the last 35 years to allow you to deliver
immediate results to your clients
Check out our blog to find more
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Posturology 101
posturologyblogcom
The human organism consists of trillions of cells that work
together to maintain energy Homeostasis in a general sense
refers to stability balance or equilibrium It is the bodys attempt
to maintain a constant internal environment The adjusting of
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Mat Boule Great blog
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Restricted motion and reflex contractions will cause a drop in muscular
performance exhaustion of glycogen reserves and acidosis For athletes it
is not only a cause of cramps torn ligaments aching muscles and tendonitis
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but also the cause of lowered performance or non-improvement in
performance in spite of training
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helpful when we tell our athletes where the info came from Thanks
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19 June
Most orthopedic pathologies share the same origin abnormal strains caused
by an imbalance in the tonic postural system and its various receptors
These strains will cause tilts and rotations in various parts of the skeleton
and joints The See More
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16 June
The importance of the tonic postural system cannot be overrated It is
involved in a wide range of pathologies which for lack of proper knowledge
are often treated symptomatically
The postural system is a cybernetic system with two cha See More
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13 June
For high-level athletes the slightest disequilibrium will have disastrous
repercussions on performance That is because the excessive demands
associated with strain cause over-stimulation of the various gamma loops for
the different postur See More
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Congratulations to our students who completed Posturepros 1-Day
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Check out our website for a list of upcoming events
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The Eye See More
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9 June
The skin is the largest organ in the body It is equipped with very precise
mechanoreceptors that can relay information instantaneously back to the
CNS regarding pain pressure and stretching A surgical scar that never fully
heals can bec See More
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7 June
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6 June
Degenerative Disc Disease is caused by irregular oblique and torsion
constraints and pressure on the intervertebral discs An intervertebral disc
has a lamellar structure that acts as a super shock absorber The discs can
absorb shock in every dimension of space however they do not perform well
when in ldquotorsionrdquo What causes a disc to be in torsion A postural imbalance
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4 June
Standing up may seem like a simple movement however the decisions to
stand up and stay up send out signals throughout the body to keep you in a
balanced upright position If your sensors (eyes feet skin TMJ) are not
projecting symmetri See More
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2 June
If you are looking to increase strength performance with your athletes then
Posturology is a great tool to add to your arsenal Although postural
imbalances are very common they are not ideal for your body to function
optimally Humans ar See More
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Proper posture and good eye alignment are two of the most important
elements of a consistent golf swing
Eye exercises can immediately benefit the everyday golfer and widespread
performance breakthrough in putting If your eyes arenrsquot converging properly
chances are that your shoulders are misaligned when you putt
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The eye is not only an element of vision it is also (with the foot) one of the
most important receptors in the postural system When muscles that move
the eyes are out of balance perception of the environment changes and the
entire body attempts to compensate for that phenomenon In doing so shifts
and rotations of the shoulders and pelvis occur and postural alignment
suffers
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Mario is the latest supporter of Posturology We are very excited for this
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Is There a Point to Training Your Rotator Cuff
The Posturology Blog
Annette Verpillot The fitness industry considers most muscles
as equals Certainly some gurus like to play favorites yet no
one is willing to stand up and say this is the most important
muscle We do know and recognize by now that muscles
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Stabilizing muscles such as the rotator cuff is under the dependence of the
involuntary motor system They are in close contact with the joints and
contain a high amount of type I muscle fibers They are built for endurance
Attempting to recruit these muscles via exercise means the superficial
muscles will kick in first and take over Attempting to train stabilizers is a
waste of time
Is There a Point to Training Your Rotator Cuff
posturologyblogcom
The fitness industry considers most muscles as equals
Certainly some gurus like to play favorites yet no one is willing
to stand up and say this is the most important muscle We do
know and recognize by now that muscles work in chains This
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Vlad Padina Umm
Guys
Did you ever actually pick up a dumbell and try to train your external rotators
Or did you ever do heavy military presses for reps
7 May at 1825 middot Like middot 1
Vlad Padina No really you should try it sometimes
And you should try the bodybuilding concept of creating a mind-muscle
connection
[this was a very polite way of saying this article is almost completely wrong and
provably so]
7 May at 1829 middot Like middot 1
Vlad Padina I mean if your infraspinatus doesnt contract when doing external
rotations and you dont feel it working it probably means its inhibited and other
muscles are taking over
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Posture Pro Vlad Padina we once thought the earth was flat (this is a very polite
way of saying you should take our course) to learn how the brain contracts
muscles and how muscle levers work in regards to the respective joint
7 May at 1931 middot Like
Vlad Padina Look you said the IS and TM wont work during isolated external
rotations but rather the posterior delt will take most of the weight
For some weird reason I can thoroughly work my infraspinatus and teres minor
feel the burn in them while working and feel the soreness the next day
And no they are not weak I can use 15 lb for 10 reps on strict external rotations
with the arm near the body and about the same for strict external rotations and I
can also overhead press wo any pain
7 May at 1936 middot Like
Posture Pro Keep up the good work
7 May at 1937 middot Like
Vlad Padina Well why can I feel them working if they dont actually work
7 May at 1944 middot Like
Vlad Padina mr Poliquin recounts how he increased someones bench press
by 50 lb to about 350 just by increasing his ext rotation strength from 8 lb x 8 to
35 lb x 8
7 May at 2110 middot Edited middot Like
Brett Jones I think this can boiled down in this way
strength and stability are different
stability is reflex driven
just because you feel a muscle working doesnt mean it will fire when it is
needed to fire
The feed forward tension of strength training is not the reflex activity needed to get
the stabilizers to fire in the correct sequence
When stabilizers fire first only 20-30 of their MVC is needed - when they dont
then the prime movers take over
All of this depends on joint angle etc in defining what is stabilizing at a
particular point and what is prime moving etc
Train stabilizers allowing for a proprioceptively rich environment where the reflex
activation can be encouraged is the way to go IMO
7 May at 2148 middot Like middot 2
Vlad Padina Simply put if you can see a muscle it is made to move you If you
canrsquot itrsquos made to stabilize you
The infraspinatus is as visible as the biceps brachii and very hypertrophyable
The teres minor is visible Both can get sore after direct and indirect training
Training both directly helped some people get much stronger and get rid of
shoulder pain
Maybe it was expected that readers read between the lines
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But the article says some things which in the way they were stated can be easily
proven wrong
I am not competent in neurology - this I will admit - but the article makes
assertions about mechanics which are somewhat unfounded
Can the author tell us how long would an average lever arm for the posterior delt
be and how long for the infraspinatus
7 May at 2232 middot Edited middot Like
Vlad Padina Also the infraspinatus seems to have better lever arm for external
rotation than the posterior delt and a much better line of pull especially when the
arm is not abducted
7 May at 2238 middot Edited middot Like middot 1
Mat Boule Hi Vlad I have been known to pick up a DB or two in my youth Ill
address your first concept the mind-muscle connection For the mind-muscle
connection to take place you need an involvement of the frontal lobe (motor
cortex) This is occuring everytime you move a limb In that respect it is not a
bodybuilding concept it is basic neurophysiology The question is not whether the
infraspinatus contributes to the ER fo the shoulder or not The question is that
based on levers and mechanical advantage it contributes far less than the rear
deltoid Thats physics not an opinion Feeling a burning sensation in a specific
muscle the next day can mean the muscle contributed to the effort It does not
stipulate if that muscle was acting as a stabilizer as suggested in the blog or a
mobilizer (the common beliefhellip and I did say belief) I understand that you can
see the infraspinatus and the teres minor The idea was to graphically position
muscles superficial versus deep The superficial ones are more easily spotted
and are further away from the joint axis They are if only for that reason better
mobilizers and will mobilize more any day than the deeper muscles
8 May at 0430 middot Like middot 2
Terry Hughes Ha ha said people would get protective over this
8 May at 0845 middot Like middot 1
Vlad Padina Article with measurement of lever arm and angle of pull for post
delt vs infraspinatus Wheeless Orthopaedics says the IS is the main ext rotator
not the delt
8 May at 0854 middot Edited middot Like
Vlad Padina Mat the concept is that you concentrate on the muscle not the
movement Recent EMG measurements (will post the article today it was written
by Bret Contreras) have shown a great difference in activation when the focus
shifts from the movement to the contraction of the specific muscle
8 May at 0924 middot Like
Mat Boule Wheeless can say what it wants Wheeless could have made a
mistake
8 May at 1338 middot Like middot 1
Posture Pro The rear deltoid actually has a lot more lever arm for ER of
shoulder than infraspinatus A such for rear deltoid to perform in ER you need
the infraspinatus and teres minor to stabilize the joint That being said the deltoid
is a phasic muscle and the infraspinatus and teres minor are tonic The idea of
the blog was to raise awareness as to the fact that these muscles serve
complementary yet different functions
8 May at 1422 middot Like middot 2
Vlad Padina Do you haveare there any articles or studies about the lever arms
of each external rotator
8 May at 1942 middot Like
Mat Boule Have you done dissections Vlad
8 May at 1943 middot Like
Vlad Padina Or the angles of pull pf each Much of the post delts strength will
be wasted due to its line of pull
8 May at 1945 middot Like
Vlad Padina No Mat Why
8 May at 1945 middot Like
Vlad Padina Btw is the surface of the greater tubercle further away from the GH
joints axis than the deltoidal tuberosity
8 May at 1946 middot Edited middot Like
Mat Boule In a dissection you can have a 3D perspective that allows you to
understand fully the point made in the blog
8 May at 1946 middot Like middot 1
Mat Boule The rear deltoid (origin and insertion) sits further away from the GH
join than the infraspinatus or teres minor Since these muscles all perform some
ER the rear deltoid has the greatest lever therefore it has the mechanical
advantage
8 May at 1949 middot Like
Vlad Padina So if the rear delt would insert near the elbow it would have a
greater mechanical advantage
8 May at 1951 middot Like
Mat Boule Vlad I will not be hosting a biomechanics course on this thread If
you have further questions about this issue I invite you to contact Posture Pro
directly Have a great day
8 May at 1952 middot Like
Vlad Padina This iswas my last question Please I am really interested in an
answer even a yesno answer to my last question
8 May at 1953 middot Like
Mat Boule If the rear deltoid attached closer to the elbow that to the deltoid
tuberosity it would indeed have a greater lever length that it already does It
would give it more torque around the GH joint to perform ER of the shoulder
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29 April
Off to Montreal today
Posture Pro Levels 3 and 4 and Advanced eye movement and vision training
Taking Performance to another level
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27 April
Dont miss out on day three of the woman show sundaymorning results
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26 April
Its not too late to get your free assessment with Posturepro Hear what Pam
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with Jackie Kalfayan at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal - Montreal
Convention Center
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Day two of the Woman Show over 150 postural assessments performed
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Can weight lifting fix your posture
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Can weight lifting fix your posture
posturologyblogcom
Itrsquos sad to say that many people care more about how they look then how they
function Check out this before and after photo I applaud his success but now after
seeing his transformation photos I can only hope that he notices his poor posture
His
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Adam Ridgewell Oh I like this very much Osteopathic lesions Mon langue
favourite Japprend Francais a ce moment pardonnez moi
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8 July
What are the effects of having fallen arches A valgus foot causes internal
rotations of the lower limbs This faulty alignment increases the risks of ankle
strains sprains and knee injuries Also this rotation increases the risk of
lower See More
14 SharesLike middot Comment middot Share
26 people like this
Lisa Dollery Stuart Dollery
8 July at 1827 middot Like
Robert Dowd according to the researchhelliplook at Eyal LeadermanhellipNOTHING
9 July at 0238 middot Like middot 1
James Dodd nice Robert Dowd more and more of the recent research says
that this is really not a problem and often a foot that pronates is a great foot - so
long as it can supinate
9 July at 1556 middot Edited middot Like middot 1
James Dodd a valgus foot that internally rotates your tibia turns on and loads
your gluts effectively too
9 July at 1557 middot Like middot 1
Write a comment
7142014 Posture Pro
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Posture Pro shared a link
4 July
Posturology reshapes the way your brain communicates with your muscles by
giving constant information to the body in order to recalibrate posture and
change faulty motor patterns Our methods are the results of clinical and
scientific studies conducted over the last 35 years to allow you to deliver
immediate results to your clients
Check out our blog to find more
httpposturologyblogcomposturology-101
Posturology 101
posturologyblogcom
The human organism consists of trillions of cells that work
together to maintain energy Homeostasis in a general sense
refers to stability balance or equilibrium It is the bodys attempt
to maintain a constant internal environment The adjusting of
2 SharesLike middot Comment middot Share
Mat Boule and 4 others like this
Mat Boule Great blog
4 July at 1831 middot Like middot 1
Write a comment
Magdalena Lyle
2 July
Posture Pro
Limited spots Dont miss out
Like middot Comment middot Share
3 people like this
Write a comment
Posture Pro
25 June
Restricted motion and reflex contractions will cause a drop in muscular
performance exhaustion of glycogen reserves and acidosis For athletes it
is not only a cause of cramps torn ligaments aching muscles and tendonitis
7142014 Posture Pro
httpswwwfacebookcomposturepro 415
but also the cause of lowered performance or non-improvement in
performance in spite of training
2 SharesLike middot Comment middot Share
Mat Boule and 4 others like this
Charlie Hoolihan Can you please provide some research on this It would be
helpful when we tell our athletes where the info came from Thanks
8 July at 1923 middot Like
Write a comment
Posture Pro
19 June
Most orthopedic pathologies share the same origin abnormal strains caused
by an imbalance in the tonic postural system and its various receptors
These strains will cause tilts and rotations in various parts of the skeleton
and joints The See More
3 SharesLike middot Comment middot Share
10 people like this
Write a comment
Posture Pro
16 June
The importance of the tonic postural system cannot be overrated It is
involved in a wide range of pathologies which for lack of proper knowledge
are often treated symptomatically
The postural system is a cybernetic system with two cha See More
7142014 Posture Pro
httpswwwfacebookcomposturepro 515
3 SharesLike middot Comment middot Share
10 people like this
Write a comment
Posture Pro
13 June
For high-level athletes the slightest disequilibrium will have disastrous
repercussions on performance That is because the excessive demands
associated with strain cause over-stimulation of the various gamma loops for
the different postur See More
19 2 SharesLike middot Comment middot Share
Paul Paez Posture Pro
11 June
looking for a doc in Chula Vista and Murrietta california who uses Posture
Pro
Like middot Comment
7142014 Posture Pro
httpswwwfacebookcomposturepro 615
Posture Pro
11 June
Congratulations to our students who completed Posturepros 1-Day
Advanced Eye Program (The Eye Vision and Eye Movement) in Montreal
Check out our website for a list of upcoming events
httpwwwposturepronetupcoming-events
The Eye See More
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Posture Pro
9 June
The skin is the largest organ in the body It is equipped with very precise
mechanoreceptors that can relay information instantaneously back to the
CNS regarding pain pressure and stretching A surgical scar that never fully
heals can bec See More
14Like middot Comment
Magdalena Lyle
7 June
Posture Pro will be here in Dubai 12th - 14th February 2015 checkout their
website for more information
7142014 Posture Pro
httpswwwfacebookcomposturepro 715
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Posture Pro
6 June
Degenerative Disc Disease is caused by irregular oblique and torsion
constraints and pressure on the intervertebral discs An intervertebral disc
has a lamellar structure that acts as a super shock absorber The discs can
absorb shock in every dimension of space however they do not perform well
when in ldquotorsionrdquo What causes a disc to be in torsion A postural imbalance
11 3 1 ShareLike middot Comment middot Stop Notifications middot Share
Posture Pro
4 June
Standing up may seem like a simple movement however the decisions to
stand up and stay up send out signals throughout the body to keep you in a
balanced upright position If your sensors (eyes feet skin TMJ) are not
projecting symmetri See More
4 2 SharesLike middot Comment middot Share
Posture Pro
2 June
If you are looking to increase strength performance with your athletes then
Posturology is a great tool to add to your arsenal Although postural
imbalances are very common they are not ideal for your body to function
optimally Humans ar See More
ABOUT
President at Posturepro
Secondary School
Lives in Montreal Quebec
Home towncity
Followed by 466 people
Ask
Ask
7142014 Posture Pro
httpswwwfacebookcomposturepro 815
Earlier in 2014
9Like middot Comment middot Share
Posture Pro
30 May
Proper posture and good eye alignment are two of the most important
elements of a consistent golf swing
Eye exercises can immediately benefit the everyday golfer and widespread
performance breakthrough in putting If your eyes arenrsquot converging properly
chances are that your shoulders are misaligned when you putt
7 1 3 SharesLike middot Comment middot Share
Followed by 466 people
middot PHOTOS 8
middot FRIENDS 4857 (39 Mutual)
Charlie
Weingroff Martin Rooney Lou Schuler
Charles Staley Ben Bruno
Cassandra
Forsythe
Tim Larkin Tc Luoma Jim Wendler
middot SPORTS 3
Reacutemy Huleux Jairo Junior Ryan Magin
middot
Posturepro
REVIEWS 1
RECENT ACTIVITY
Posture is going to Posturology PIPP in
Santa Monica CA
HIGHLIGHTS
Posture Pro
29 May
The eye is not only an element of vision it is also (with the foot) one of the
most important receptors in the postural system When muscles that move
the eyes are out of balance perception of the environment changes and the
entire body attempts to compensate for that phenomenon In doing so shifts
and rotations of the shoulders and pelvis occur and postural alignment
suffers
7142014 Posture Pro
httpswwwfacebookcomposturepro 915
15 4 SharesLike middot Comment middot Share
Posture Pro
21 May
Mario is the latest supporter of Posturology We are very excited for this
collaboration and look forward to partnering with Mario on future Posturology
initiatives amp campaigns Stay tuned mdash at Posturepro
4Like middot Comment
More posts from 7 May to 21
Posture Pro shared a link via NetworkedBlogs
7 May
Is There a Point to Training Your Rotator Cuff
The Posturology Blog
Annette Verpillot The fitness industry considers most muscles
as equals Certainly some gurus like to play favorites yet no
one is willing to stand up and say this is the most important
muscle We do know and recognize by now that muscles
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Stabilizing muscles such as the rotator cuff is under the dependence of the
involuntary motor system They are in close contact with the joints and
contain a high amount of type I muscle fibers They are built for endurance
Attempting to recruit these muscles via exercise means the superficial
muscles will kick in first and take over Attempting to train stabilizers is a
waste of time
Is There a Point to Training Your Rotator Cuff
posturologyblogcom
The fitness industry considers most muscles as equals
Certainly some gurus like to play favorites yet no one is willing
to stand up and say this is the most important muscle We do
know and recognize by now that muscles work in chains This
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Vlad Padina Umm
Guys
Did you ever actually pick up a dumbell and try to train your external rotators
Or did you ever do heavy military presses for reps
7 May at 1825 middot Like middot 1
Vlad Padina No really you should try it sometimes
And you should try the bodybuilding concept of creating a mind-muscle
connection
[this was a very polite way of saying this article is almost completely wrong and
provably so]
7 May at 1829 middot Like middot 1
Vlad Padina I mean if your infraspinatus doesnt contract when doing external
rotations and you dont feel it working it probably means its inhibited and other
muscles are taking over
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Posture Pro Vlad Padina we once thought the earth was flat (this is a very polite
way of saying you should take our course) to learn how the brain contracts
muscles and how muscle levers work in regards to the respective joint
7 May at 1931 middot Like
Vlad Padina Look you said the IS and TM wont work during isolated external
rotations but rather the posterior delt will take most of the weight
For some weird reason I can thoroughly work my infraspinatus and teres minor
feel the burn in them while working and feel the soreness the next day
And no they are not weak I can use 15 lb for 10 reps on strict external rotations
with the arm near the body and about the same for strict external rotations and I
can also overhead press wo any pain
7 May at 1936 middot Like
Posture Pro Keep up the good work
7 May at 1937 middot Like
Vlad Padina Well why can I feel them working if they dont actually work
7 May at 1944 middot Like
Vlad Padina mr Poliquin recounts how he increased someones bench press
by 50 lb to about 350 just by increasing his ext rotation strength from 8 lb x 8 to
35 lb x 8
7 May at 2110 middot Edited middot Like
Brett Jones I think this can boiled down in this way
strength and stability are different
stability is reflex driven
just because you feel a muscle working doesnt mean it will fire when it is
needed to fire
The feed forward tension of strength training is not the reflex activity needed to get
the stabilizers to fire in the correct sequence
When stabilizers fire first only 20-30 of their MVC is needed - when they dont
then the prime movers take over
All of this depends on joint angle etc in defining what is stabilizing at a
particular point and what is prime moving etc
Train stabilizers allowing for a proprioceptively rich environment where the reflex
activation can be encouraged is the way to go IMO
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Vlad Padina Simply put if you can see a muscle it is made to move you If you
canrsquot itrsquos made to stabilize you
The infraspinatus is as visible as the biceps brachii and very hypertrophyable
The teres minor is visible Both can get sore after direct and indirect training
Training both directly helped some people get much stronger and get rid of
shoulder pain
Maybe it was expected that readers read between the lines
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But the article says some things which in the way they were stated can be easily
proven wrong
I am not competent in neurology - this I will admit - but the article makes
assertions about mechanics which are somewhat unfounded
Can the author tell us how long would an average lever arm for the posterior delt
be and how long for the infraspinatus
7 May at 2232 middot Edited middot Like
Vlad Padina Also the infraspinatus seems to have better lever arm for external
rotation than the posterior delt and a much better line of pull especially when the
arm is not abducted
7 May at 2238 middot Edited middot Like middot 1
Mat Boule Hi Vlad I have been known to pick up a DB or two in my youth Ill
address your first concept the mind-muscle connection For the mind-muscle
connection to take place you need an involvement of the frontal lobe (motor
cortex) This is occuring everytime you move a limb In that respect it is not a
bodybuilding concept it is basic neurophysiology The question is not whether the
infraspinatus contributes to the ER fo the shoulder or not The question is that
based on levers and mechanical advantage it contributes far less than the rear
deltoid Thats physics not an opinion Feeling a burning sensation in a specific
muscle the next day can mean the muscle contributed to the effort It does not
stipulate if that muscle was acting as a stabilizer as suggested in the blog or a
mobilizer (the common beliefhellip and I did say belief) I understand that you can
see the infraspinatus and the teres minor The idea was to graphically position
muscles superficial versus deep The superficial ones are more easily spotted
and are further away from the joint axis They are if only for that reason better
mobilizers and will mobilize more any day than the deeper muscles
8 May at 0430 middot Like middot 2
Terry Hughes Ha ha said people would get protective over this
8 May at 0845 middot Like middot 1
Vlad Padina Article with measurement of lever arm and angle of pull for post
delt vs infraspinatus Wheeless Orthopaedics says the IS is the main ext rotator
not the delt
8 May at 0854 middot Edited middot Like
Vlad Padina Mat the concept is that you concentrate on the muscle not the
movement Recent EMG measurements (will post the article today it was written
by Bret Contreras) have shown a great difference in activation when the focus
shifts from the movement to the contraction of the specific muscle
8 May at 0924 middot Like
Mat Boule Wheeless can say what it wants Wheeless could have made a
mistake
8 May at 1338 middot Like middot 1
Posture Pro The rear deltoid actually has a lot more lever arm for ER of
shoulder than infraspinatus A such for rear deltoid to perform in ER you need
the infraspinatus and teres minor to stabilize the joint That being said the deltoid
is a phasic muscle and the infraspinatus and teres minor are tonic The idea of
the blog was to raise awareness as to the fact that these muscles serve
complementary yet different functions
8 May at 1422 middot Like middot 2
Vlad Padina Do you haveare there any articles or studies about the lever arms
of each external rotator
8 May at 1942 middot Like
Mat Boule Have you done dissections Vlad
8 May at 1943 middot Like
Vlad Padina Or the angles of pull pf each Much of the post delts strength will
be wasted due to its line of pull
8 May at 1945 middot Like
Vlad Padina No Mat Why
8 May at 1945 middot Like
Vlad Padina Btw is the surface of the greater tubercle further away from the GH
joints axis than the deltoidal tuberosity
8 May at 1946 middot Edited middot Like
Mat Boule In a dissection you can have a 3D perspective that allows you to
understand fully the point made in the blog
8 May at 1946 middot Like middot 1
Mat Boule The rear deltoid (origin and insertion) sits further away from the GH
join than the infraspinatus or teres minor Since these muscles all perform some
ER the rear deltoid has the greatest lever therefore it has the mechanical
advantage
8 May at 1949 middot Like
Vlad Padina So if the rear delt would insert near the elbow it would have a
greater mechanical advantage
8 May at 1951 middot Like
Mat Boule Vlad I will not be hosting a biomechanics course on this thread If
you have further questions about this issue I invite you to contact Posture Pro
directly Have a great day
8 May at 1952 middot Like
Vlad Padina This iswas my last question Please I am really interested in an
answer even a yesno answer to my last question
8 May at 1953 middot Like
Mat Boule If the rear deltoid attached closer to the elbow that to the deltoid
tuberosity it would indeed have a greater lever length that it already does It
would give it more torque around the GH joint to perform ER of the shoulder
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Itrsquos sad to say that many people care more about how they look then how they
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Most orthopedic pathologies share the same origin abnormal strains caused
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Is There a Point to Training Your Rotator Cuff
The Posturology Blog
Annette Verpillot The fitness industry considers most muscles
as equals Certainly some gurus like to play favorites yet no
one is willing to stand up and say this is the most important
muscle We do know and recognize by now that muscles
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Stabilizing muscles such as the rotator cuff is under the dependence of the
involuntary motor system They are in close contact with the joints and
contain a high amount of type I muscle fibers They are built for endurance
Attempting to recruit these muscles via exercise means the superficial
muscles will kick in first and take over Attempting to train stabilizers is a
waste of time
Is There a Point to Training Your Rotator Cuff
posturologyblogcom
The fitness industry considers most muscles as equals
Certainly some gurus like to play favorites yet no one is willing
to stand up and say this is the most important muscle We do
know and recognize by now that muscles work in chains This
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Vlad Padina Umm
Guys
Did you ever actually pick up a dumbell and try to train your external rotators
Or did you ever do heavy military presses for reps
7 May at 1825 middot Like middot 1
Vlad Padina No really you should try it sometimes
And you should try the bodybuilding concept of creating a mind-muscle
connection
[this was a very polite way of saying this article is almost completely wrong and
provably so]
7 May at 1829 middot Like middot 1
Vlad Padina I mean if your infraspinatus doesnt contract when doing external
rotations and you dont feel it working it probably means its inhibited and other
muscles are taking over
7 May at 1831 middot Edited middot Like
Posture Pro Vlad Padina we once thought the earth was flat (this is a very polite
way of saying you should take our course) to learn how the brain contracts
muscles and how muscle levers work in regards to the respective joint
7 May at 1931 middot Like
Vlad Padina Look you said the IS and TM wont work during isolated external
rotations but rather the posterior delt will take most of the weight
For some weird reason I can thoroughly work my infraspinatus and teres minor
feel the burn in them while working and feel the soreness the next day
And no they are not weak I can use 15 lb for 10 reps on strict external rotations
with the arm near the body and about the same for strict external rotations and I
can also overhead press wo any pain
7 May at 1936 middot Like
Posture Pro Keep up the good work
7 May at 1937 middot Like
Vlad Padina Well why can I feel them working if they dont actually work
7 May at 1944 middot Like
Vlad Padina mr Poliquin recounts how he increased someones bench press
by 50 lb to about 350 just by increasing his ext rotation strength from 8 lb x 8 to
35 lb x 8
7 May at 2110 middot Edited middot Like
Brett Jones I think this can boiled down in this way
strength and stability are different
stability is reflex driven
just because you feel a muscle working doesnt mean it will fire when it is
needed to fire
The feed forward tension of strength training is not the reflex activity needed to get
the stabilizers to fire in the correct sequence
When stabilizers fire first only 20-30 of their MVC is needed - when they dont
then the prime movers take over
All of this depends on joint angle etc in defining what is stabilizing at a
particular point and what is prime moving etc
Train stabilizers allowing for a proprioceptively rich environment where the reflex
activation can be encouraged is the way to go IMO
7 May at 2148 middot Like middot 2
Vlad Padina Simply put if you can see a muscle it is made to move you If you
canrsquot itrsquos made to stabilize you
The infraspinatus is as visible as the biceps brachii and very hypertrophyable
The teres minor is visible Both can get sore after direct and indirect training
Training both directly helped some people get much stronger and get rid of
shoulder pain
Maybe it was expected that readers read between the lines
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But the article says some things which in the way they were stated can be easily
proven wrong
I am not competent in neurology - this I will admit - but the article makes
assertions about mechanics which are somewhat unfounded
Can the author tell us how long would an average lever arm for the posterior delt
be and how long for the infraspinatus
7 May at 2232 middot Edited middot Like
Vlad Padina Also the infraspinatus seems to have better lever arm for external
rotation than the posterior delt and a much better line of pull especially when the
arm is not abducted
7 May at 2238 middot Edited middot Like middot 1
Mat Boule Hi Vlad I have been known to pick up a DB or two in my youth Ill
address your first concept the mind-muscle connection For the mind-muscle
connection to take place you need an involvement of the frontal lobe (motor
cortex) This is occuring everytime you move a limb In that respect it is not a
bodybuilding concept it is basic neurophysiology The question is not whether the
infraspinatus contributes to the ER fo the shoulder or not The question is that
based on levers and mechanical advantage it contributes far less than the rear
deltoid Thats physics not an opinion Feeling a burning sensation in a specific
muscle the next day can mean the muscle contributed to the effort It does not
stipulate if that muscle was acting as a stabilizer as suggested in the blog or a
mobilizer (the common beliefhellip and I did say belief) I understand that you can
see the infraspinatus and the teres minor The idea was to graphically position
muscles superficial versus deep The superficial ones are more easily spotted
and are further away from the joint axis They are if only for that reason better
mobilizers and will mobilize more any day than the deeper muscles
8 May at 0430 middot Like middot 2
Terry Hughes Ha ha said people would get protective over this
8 May at 0845 middot Like middot 1
Vlad Padina Article with measurement of lever arm and angle of pull for post
delt vs infraspinatus Wheeless Orthopaedics says the IS is the main ext rotator
not the delt
8 May at 0854 middot Edited middot Like
Vlad Padina Mat the concept is that you concentrate on the muscle not the
movement Recent EMG measurements (will post the article today it was written
by Bret Contreras) have shown a great difference in activation when the focus
shifts from the movement to the contraction of the specific muscle
8 May at 0924 middot Like
Mat Boule Wheeless can say what it wants Wheeless could have made a
mistake
8 May at 1338 middot Like middot 1
Posture Pro The rear deltoid actually has a lot more lever arm for ER of
shoulder than infraspinatus A such for rear deltoid to perform in ER you need
the infraspinatus and teres minor to stabilize the joint That being said the deltoid
is a phasic muscle and the infraspinatus and teres minor are tonic The idea of
the blog was to raise awareness as to the fact that these muscles serve
complementary yet different functions
8 May at 1422 middot Like middot 2
Vlad Padina Do you haveare there any articles or studies about the lever arms
of each external rotator
8 May at 1942 middot Like
Mat Boule Have you done dissections Vlad
8 May at 1943 middot Like
Vlad Padina Or the angles of pull pf each Much of the post delts strength will
be wasted due to its line of pull
8 May at 1945 middot Like
Vlad Padina No Mat Why
8 May at 1945 middot Like
Vlad Padina Btw is the surface of the greater tubercle further away from the GH
joints axis than the deltoidal tuberosity
8 May at 1946 middot Edited middot Like
Mat Boule In a dissection you can have a 3D perspective that allows you to
understand fully the point made in the blog
8 May at 1946 middot Like middot 1
Mat Boule The rear deltoid (origin and insertion) sits further away from the GH
join than the infraspinatus or teres minor Since these muscles all perform some
ER the rear deltoid has the greatest lever therefore it has the mechanical
advantage
8 May at 1949 middot Like
Vlad Padina So if the rear delt would insert near the elbow it would have a
greater mechanical advantage
8 May at 1951 middot Like
Mat Boule Vlad I will not be hosting a biomechanics course on this thread If
you have further questions about this issue I invite you to contact Posture Pro
directly Have a great day
8 May at 1952 middot Like
Vlad Padina This iswas my last question Please I am really interested in an
answer even a yesno answer to my last question
8 May at 1953 middot Like
Mat Boule If the rear deltoid attached closer to the elbow that to the deltoid
tuberosity it would indeed have a greater lever length that it already does It
would give it more torque around the GH joint to perform ER of the shoulder
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Congratulations to another group of savvy coaches Luke Watson and Terry
Hughes who just completed levels 3 and 4 of PIPP program and our
Advanced Eye Program Great guys and looking forward to seeing them
excel in the industry Our next programs runs in June in Montreal for more
information go to httpwwwposturepronetupcoming-eventsmontreal
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29 April
Off to Montreal today
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27 April
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26 April
Its not too late to get your free assessment with Posturepro Hear what Pam
has to say about it We hope to see you here nomopain pam happy mdash
with Jackie Kalfayan at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal - Montreal
Convention Center
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26 April
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and your pain See you there posturepro changinglives nomorepain
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25 April
Come and see us at the Woman Show at the Palais des Congregraves for a fun
contest and a free Postural Assessment Friday Saturday and Sunday mdash
with Jackie Kalfayan and Annette Verpillot at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal
- Montreal Convention Center (5 photos)
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22 April
Can weight lifting fix your posture
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Can weight lifting fix your posture
posturologyblogcom
Itrsquos sad to say that many people care more about how they look then how they
function Check out this before and after photo I applaud his success but now after
seeing his transformation photos I can only hope that he notices his poor posture
His
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but also the cause of lowered performance or non-improvement in
performance in spite of training
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Posture Pro
19 June
Most orthopedic pathologies share the same origin abnormal strains caused
by an imbalance in the tonic postural system and its various receptors
These strains will cause tilts and rotations in various parts of the skeleton
and joints The See More
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16 June
The importance of the tonic postural system cannot be overrated It is
involved in a wide range of pathologies which for lack of proper knowledge
are often treated symptomatically
The postural system is a cybernetic system with two cha See More
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13 June
For high-level athletes the slightest disequilibrium will have disastrous
repercussions on performance That is because the excessive demands
associated with strain cause over-stimulation of the various gamma loops for
the different postur See More
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11 June
Congratulations to our students who completed Posturepros 1-Day
Advanced Eye Program (The Eye Vision and Eye Movement) in Montreal
Check out our website for a list of upcoming events
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The Eye See More
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9 June
The skin is the largest organ in the body It is equipped with very precise
mechanoreceptors that can relay information instantaneously back to the
CNS regarding pain pressure and stretching A surgical scar that never fully
heals can bec See More
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7 June
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6 June
Degenerative Disc Disease is caused by irregular oblique and torsion
constraints and pressure on the intervertebral discs An intervertebral disc
has a lamellar structure that acts as a super shock absorber The discs can
absorb shock in every dimension of space however they do not perform well
when in ldquotorsionrdquo What causes a disc to be in torsion A postural imbalance
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Posture Pro
4 June
Standing up may seem like a simple movement however the decisions to
stand up and stay up send out signals throughout the body to keep you in a
balanced upright position If your sensors (eyes feet skin TMJ) are not
projecting symmetri See More
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2 June
If you are looking to increase strength performance with your athletes then
Posturology is a great tool to add to your arsenal Although postural
imbalances are very common they are not ideal for your body to function
optimally Humans ar See More
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Posture Pro
30 May
Proper posture and good eye alignment are two of the most important
elements of a consistent golf swing
Eye exercises can immediately benefit the everyday golfer and widespread
performance breakthrough in putting If your eyes arenrsquot converging properly
chances are that your shoulders are misaligned when you putt
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29 May
The eye is not only an element of vision it is also (with the foot) one of the
most important receptors in the postural system When muscles that move
the eyes are out of balance perception of the environment changes and the
entire body attempts to compensate for that phenomenon In doing so shifts
and rotations of the shoulders and pelvis occur and postural alignment
suffers
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21 May
Mario is the latest supporter of Posturology We are very excited for this
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Posture Pro shared a link via NetworkedBlogs
7 May
Is There a Point to Training Your Rotator Cuff
The Posturology Blog
Annette Verpillot The fitness industry considers most muscles
as equals Certainly some gurus like to play favorites yet no
one is willing to stand up and say this is the most important
muscle We do know and recognize by now that muscles
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Posture Pro shared a link
7 May
Stabilizing muscles such as the rotator cuff is under the dependence of the
involuntary motor system They are in close contact with the joints and
contain a high amount of type I muscle fibers They are built for endurance
Attempting to recruit these muscles via exercise means the superficial
muscles will kick in first and take over Attempting to train stabilizers is a
waste of time
Is There a Point to Training Your Rotator Cuff
posturologyblogcom
The fitness industry considers most muscles as equals
Certainly some gurus like to play favorites yet no one is willing
to stand up and say this is the most important muscle We do
know and recognize by now that muscles work in chains This
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Vlad Padina Umm
Guys
Did you ever actually pick up a dumbell and try to train your external rotators
Or did you ever do heavy military presses for reps
7 May at 1825 middot Like middot 1
Vlad Padina No really you should try it sometimes
And you should try the bodybuilding concept of creating a mind-muscle
connection
[this was a very polite way of saying this article is almost completely wrong and
provably so]
7 May at 1829 middot Like middot 1
Vlad Padina I mean if your infraspinatus doesnt contract when doing external
rotations and you dont feel it working it probably means its inhibited and other
muscles are taking over
7 May at 1831 middot Edited middot Like
Posture Pro Vlad Padina we once thought the earth was flat (this is a very polite
way of saying you should take our course) to learn how the brain contracts
muscles and how muscle levers work in regards to the respective joint
7 May at 1931 middot Like
Vlad Padina Look you said the IS and TM wont work during isolated external
rotations but rather the posterior delt will take most of the weight
For some weird reason I can thoroughly work my infraspinatus and teres minor
feel the burn in them while working and feel the soreness the next day
And no they are not weak I can use 15 lb for 10 reps on strict external rotations
with the arm near the body and about the same for strict external rotations and I
can also overhead press wo any pain
7 May at 1936 middot Like
Posture Pro Keep up the good work
7 May at 1937 middot Like
Vlad Padina Well why can I feel them working if they dont actually work
7 May at 1944 middot Like
Vlad Padina mr Poliquin recounts how he increased someones bench press
by 50 lb to about 350 just by increasing his ext rotation strength from 8 lb x 8 to
35 lb x 8
7 May at 2110 middot Edited middot Like
Brett Jones I think this can boiled down in this way
strength and stability are different
stability is reflex driven
just because you feel a muscle working doesnt mean it will fire when it is
needed to fire
The feed forward tension of strength training is not the reflex activity needed to get
the stabilizers to fire in the correct sequence
When stabilizers fire first only 20-30 of their MVC is needed - when they dont
then the prime movers take over
All of this depends on joint angle etc in defining what is stabilizing at a
particular point and what is prime moving etc
Train stabilizers allowing for a proprioceptively rich environment where the reflex
activation can be encouraged is the way to go IMO
7 May at 2148 middot Like middot 2
Vlad Padina Simply put if you can see a muscle it is made to move you If you
canrsquot itrsquos made to stabilize you
The infraspinatus is as visible as the biceps brachii and very hypertrophyable
The teres minor is visible Both can get sore after direct and indirect training
Training both directly helped some people get much stronger and get rid of
shoulder pain
Maybe it was expected that readers read between the lines
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But the article says some things which in the way they were stated can be easily
proven wrong
I am not competent in neurology - this I will admit - but the article makes
assertions about mechanics which are somewhat unfounded
Can the author tell us how long would an average lever arm for the posterior delt
be and how long for the infraspinatus
7 May at 2232 middot Edited middot Like
Vlad Padina Also the infraspinatus seems to have better lever arm for external
rotation than the posterior delt and a much better line of pull especially when the
arm is not abducted
7 May at 2238 middot Edited middot Like middot 1
Mat Boule Hi Vlad I have been known to pick up a DB or two in my youth Ill
address your first concept the mind-muscle connection For the mind-muscle
connection to take place you need an involvement of the frontal lobe (motor
cortex) This is occuring everytime you move a limb In that respect it is not a
bodybuilding concept it is basic neurophysiology The question is not whether the
infraspinatus contributes to the ER fo the shoulder or not The question is that
based on levers and mechanical advantage it contributes far less than the rear
deltoid Thats physics not an opinion Feeling a burning sensation in a specific
muscle the next day can mean the muscle contributed to the effort It does not
stipulate if that muscle was acting as a stabilizer as suggested in the blog or a
mobilizer (the common beliefhellip and I did say belief) I understand that you can
see the infraspinatus and the teres minor The idea was to graphically position
muscles superficial versus deep The superficial ones are more easily spotted
and are further away from the joint axis They are if only for that reason better
mobilizers and will mobilize more any day than the deeper muscles
8 May at 0430 middot Like middot 2
Terry Hughes Ha ha said people would get protective over this
8 May at 0845 middot Like middot 1
Vlad Padina Article with measurement of lever arm and angle of pull for post
delt vs infraspinatus Wheeless Orthopaedics says the IS is the main ext rotator
not the delt
8 May at 0854 middot Edited middot Like
Vlad Padina Mat the concept is that you concentrate on the muscle not the
movement Recent EMG measurements (will post the article today it was written
by Bret Contreras) have shown a great difference in activation when the focus
shifts from the movement to the contraction of the specific muscle
8 May at 0924 middot Like
Mat Boule Wheeless can say what it wants Wheeless could have made a
mistake
8 May at 1338 middot Like middot 1
Posture Pro The rear deltoid actually has a lot more lever arm for ER of
shoulder than infraspinatus A such for rear deltoid to perform in ER you need
the infraspinatus and teres minor to stabilize the joint That being said the deltoid
is a phasic muscle and the infraspinatus and teres minor are tonic The idea of
the blog was to raise awareness as to the fact that these muscles serve
complementary yet different functions
8 May at 1422 middot Like middot 2
Vlad Padina Do you haveare there any articles or studies about the lever arms
of each external rotator
8 May at 1942 middot Like
Mat Boule Have you done dissections Vlad
8 May at 1943 middot Like
Vlad Padina Or the angles of pull pf each Much of the post delts strength will
be wasted due to its line of pull
8 May at 1945 middot Like
Vlad Padina No Mat Why
8 May at 1945 middot Like
Vlad Padina Btw is the surface of the greater tubercle further away from the GH
joints axis than the deltoidal tuberosity
8 May at 1946 middot Edited middot Like
Mat Boule In a dissection you can have a 3D perspective that allows you to
understand fully the point made in the blog
8 May at 1946 middot Like middot 1
Mat Boule The rear deltoid (origin and insertion) sits further away from the GH
join than the infraspinatus or teres minor Since these muscles all perform some
ER the rear deltoid has the greatest lever therefore it has the mechanical
advantage
8 May at 1949 middot Like
Vlad Padina So if the rear delt would insert near the elbow it would have a
greater mechanical advantage
8 May at 1951 middot Like
Mat Boule Vlad I will not be hosting a biomechanics course on this thread If
you have further questions about this issue I invite you to contact Posture Pro
directly Have a great day
8 May at 1952 middot Like
Vlad Padina This iswas my last question Please I am really interested in an
answer even a yesno answer to my last question
8 May at 1953 middot Like
Mat Boule If the rear deltoid attached closer to the elbow that to the deltoid
tuberosity it would indeed have a greater lever length that it already does It
would give it more torque around the GH joint to perform ER of the shoulder
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Posture Pro
6 May
Congratulations to another group of savvy coaches Luke Watson and Terry
Hughes who just completed levels 3 and 4 of PIPP program and our
Advanced Eye Program Great guys and looking forward to seeing them
excel in the industry Our next programs runs in June in Montreal for more
information go to httpwwwposturepronetupcoming-eventsmontreal
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30 April
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Terry Hughes
29 April
Off to Montreal today
Posture Pro Levels 3 and 4 and Advanced eye movement and vision training
Taking Performance to another level
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Posture Pro
27 April
Dont miss out on day three of the woman show sundaymorning results
live womanshowmontreal posturepro mdash with Jackie Kalfayan and Annette
Verpillot at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal - Montreal Convention Center
025
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Posture Pro
26 April
Its not too late to get your free assessment with Posturepro Hear what Pam
has to say about it We hope to see you here nomopain pam happy mdash
with Jackie Kalfayan at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal - Montreal
Convention Center
038
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Posture Pro
26 April
Posture Pro
Day two of the Woman Show over 150 postural assessments performed
Donrsquot miss out on your opportunity to find out the link between your posture
and your pain See you there posturepro changinglives nomorepain
painfreeliving fixyourposture posturologyisthefuture mdash with Jackie
7142014 Posture Pro
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Kalfayan and Annette Verpillot at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal - Montreal
Convention Center
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Posture Pro changed her cover photo
26 April
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Posture Pro
25 April
Come and see us at the Woman Show at the Palais des Congregraves for a fun
contest and a free Postural Assessment Friday Saturday and Sunday mdash
with Jackie Kalfayan and Annette Verpillot at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal
- Montreal Convention Center (5 photos)
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Posture Pro shared a link
22 April
Can weight lifting fix your posture
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Can weight lifting fix your posture
posturologyblogcom
Itrsquos sad to say that many people care more about how they look then how they
function Check out this before and after photo I applaud his success but now after
seeing his transformation photos I can only hope that he notices his poor posture
His
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13 June
For high-level athletes the slightest disequilibrium will have disastrous
repercussions on performance That is because the excessive demands
associated with strain cause over-stimulation of the various gamma loops for
the different postur See More
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11 June
looking for a doc in Chula Vista and Murrietta california who uses Posture
Pro
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Posture Pro
11 June
Congratulations to our students who completed Posturepros 1-Day
Advanced Eye Program (The Eye Vision and Eye Movement) in Montreal
Check out our website for a list of upcoming events
httpwwwposturepronetupcoming-events
The Eye See More
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Posture Pro
9 June
The skin is the largest organ in the body It is equipped with very precise
mechanoreceptors that can relay information instantaneously back to the
CNS regarding pain pressure and stretching A surgical scar that never fully
heals can bec See More
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Magdalena Lyle
7 June
Posture Pro will be here in Dubai 12th - 14th February 2015 checkout their
website for more information
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Posture Pro
6 June
Degenerative Disc Disease is caused by irregular oblique and torsion
constraints and pressure on the intervertebral discs An intervertebral disc
has a lamellar structure that acts as a super shock absorber The discs can
absorb shock in every dimension of space however they do not perform well
when in ldquotorsionrdquo What causes a disc to be in torsion A postural imbalance
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Posture Pro
4 June
Standing up may seem like a simple movement however the decisions to
stand up and stay up send out signals throughout the body to keep you in a
balanced upright position If your sensors (eyes feet skin TMJ) are not
projecting symmetri See More
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Posture Pro
2 June
If you are looking to increase strength performance with your athletes then
Posturology is a great tool to add to your arsenal Although postural
imbalances are very common they are not ideal for your body to function
optimally Humans ar See More
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Secondary School
Lives in Montreal Quebec
Home towncity
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Posture Pro
30 May
Proper posture and good eye alignment are two of the most important
elements of a consistent golf swing
Eye exercises can immediately benefit the everyday golfer and widespread
performance breakthrough in putting If your eyes arenrsquot converging properly
chances are that your shoulders are misaligned when you putt
7 1 3 SharesLike middot Comment middot Share
Followed by 466 people
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middot FRIENDS 4857 (39 Mutual)
Charlie
Weingroff Martin Rooney Lou Schuler
Charles Staley Ben Bruno
Cassandra
Forsythe
Tim Larkin Tc Luoma Jim Wendler
middot SPORTS 3
Reacutemy Huleux Jairo Junior Ryan Magin
middot
Posturepro
REVIEWS 1
RECENT ACTIVITY
Posture is going to Posturology PIPP in
Santa Monica CA
HIGHLIGHTS
Posture Pro
29 May
The eye is not only an element of vision it is also (with the foot) one of the
most important receptors in the postural system When muscles that move
the eyes are out of balance perception of the environment changes and the
entire body attempts to compensate for that phenomenon In doing so shifts
and rotations of the shoulders and pelvis occur and postural alignment
suffers
7142014 Posture Pro
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Posture Pro
21 May
Mario is the latest supporter of Posturology We are very excited for this
collaboration and look forward to partnering with Mario on future Posturology
initiatives amp campaigns Stay tuned mdash at Posturepro
4Like middot Comment
More posts from 7 May to 21
Posture Pro shared a link via NetworkedBlogs
7 May
Is There a Point to Training Your Rotator Cuff
The Posturology Blog
Annette Verpillot The fitness industry considers most muscles
as equals Certainly some gurus like to play favorites yet no
one is willing to stand up and say this is the most important
muscle We do know and recognize by now that muscles
11 7 SharesLike middot Comment middot Share
PHOTOS middot 2014
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Posture Pro shared a link
7 May
Stabilizing muscles such as the rotator cuff is under the dependence of the
involuntary motor system They are in close contact with the joints and
contain a high amount of type I muscle fibers They are built for endurance
Attempting to recruit these muscles via exercise means the superficial
muscles will kick in first and take over Attempting to train stabilizers is a
waste of time
Is There a Point to Training Your Rotator Cuff
posturologyblogcom
The fitness industry considers most muscles as equals
Certainly some gurus like to play favorites yet no one is willing
to stand up and say this is the most important muscle We do
know and recognize by now that muscles work in chains This
9 28 6 SharesLike middot Comment middot Share
9 people like this
Vlad Padina Umm
Guys
Did you ever actually pick up a dumbell and try to train your external rotators
Or did you ever do heavy military presses for reps
7 May at 1825 middot Like middot 1
Vlad Padina No really you should try it sometimes
And you should try the bodybuilding concept of creating a mind-muscle
connection
[this was a very polite way of saying this article is almost completely wrong and
provably so]
7 May at 1829 middot Like middot 1
Vlad Padina I mean if your infraspinatus doesnt contract when doing external
rotations and you dont feel it working it probably means its inhibited and other
muscles are taking over
7 May at 1831 middot Edited middot Like
Posture Pro Vlad Padina we once thought the earth was flat (this is a very polite
way of saying you should take our course) to learn how the brain contracts
muscles and how muscle levers work in regards to the respective joint
7 May at 1931 middot Like
Vlad Padina Look you said the IS and TM wont work during isolated external
rotations but rather the posterior delt will take most of the weight
For some weird reason I can thoroughly work my infraspinatus and teres minor
feel the burn in them while working and feel the soreness the next day
And no they are not weak I can use 15 lb for 10 reps on strict external rotations
with the arm near the body and about the same for strict external rotations and I
can also overhead press wo any pain
7 May at 1936 middot Like
Posture Pro Keep up the good work
7 May at 1937 middot Like
Vlad Padina Well why can I feel them working if they dont actually work
7 May at 1944 middot Like
Vlad Padina mr Poliquin recounts how he increased someones bench press
by 50 lb to about 350 just by increasing his ext rotation strength from 8 lb x 8 to
35 lb x 8
7 May at 2110 middot Edited middot Like
Brett Jones I think this can boiled down in this way
strength and stability are different
stability is reflex driven
just because you feel a muscle working doesnt mean it will fire when it is
needed to fire
The feed forward tension of strength training is not the reflex activity needed to get
the stabilizers to fire in the correct sequence
When stabilizers fire first only 20-30 of their MVC is needed - when they dont
then the prime movers take over
All of this depends on joint angle etc in defining what is stabilizing at a
particular point and what is prime moving etc
Train stabilizers allowing for a proprioceptively rich environment where the reflex
activation can be encouraged is the way to go IMO
7 May at 2148 middot Like middot 2
Vlad Padina Simply put if you can see a muscle it is made to move you If you
canrsquot itrsquos made to stabilize you
The infraspinatus is as visible as the biceps brachii and very hypertrophyable
The teres minor is visible Both can get sore after direct and indirect training
Training both directly helped some people get much stronger and get rid of
shoulder pain
Maybe it was expected that readers read between the lines
middot FRIENDS 2014
+124
Malcolm
Gwilliam Ryan Williams Tom Hibbert
Rhys Perrett
Sean
Christensen Daniel Smith
Marin Lazic
Robert M
Kavanagh
middot EVENTS 2014
Posturology PIPP in Toronto (Levels 1 2 3
amp 4)
With 1 other guest
FREE Webinar An Overview of Posturology
With 47 other guests
Posturology PIPP in London England
(Levels 1 amp 2)
Recent
2014
May
April
March
February
January
2013
2012
2011
2010
2009
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But the article says some things which in the way they were stated can be easily
proven wrong
I am not competent in neurology - this I will admit - but the article makes
assertions about mechanics which are somewhat unfounded
Can the author tell us how long would an average lever arm for the posterior delt
be and how long for the infraspinatus
7 May at 2232 middot Edited middot Like
Vlad Padina Also the infraspinatus seems to have better lever arm for external
rotation than the posterior delt and a much better line of pull especially when the
arm is not abducted
7 May at 2238 middot Edited middot Like middot 1
Mat Boule Hi Vlad I have been known to pick up a DB or two in my youth Ill
address your first concept the mind-muscle connection For the mind-muscle
connection to take place you need an involvement of the frontal lobe (motor
cortex) This is occuring everytime you move a limb In that respect it is not a
bodybuilding concept it is basic neurophysiology The question is not whether the
infraspinatus contributes to the ER fo the shoulder or not The question is that
based on levers and mechanical advantage it contributes far less than the rear
deltoid Thats physics not an opinion Feeling a burning sensation in a specific
muscle the next day can mean the muscle contributed to the effort It does not
stipulate if that muscle was acting as a stabilizer as suggested in the blog or a
mobilizer (the common beliefhellip and I did say belief) I understand that you can
see the infraspinatus and the teres minor The idea was to graphically position
muscles superficial versus deep The superficial ones are more easily spotted
and are further away from the joint axis They are if only for that reason better
mobilizers and will mobilize more any day than the deeper muscles
8 May at 0430 middot Like middot 2
Terry Hughes Ha ha said people would get protective over this
8 May at 0845 middot Like middot 1
Vlad Padina Article with measurement of lever arm and angle of pull for post
delt vs infraspinatus Wheeless Orthopaedics says the IS is the main ext rotator
not the delt
8 May at 0854 middot Edited middot Like
Vlad Padina Mat the concept is that you concentrate on the muscle not the
movement Recent EMG measurements (will post the article today it was written
by Bret Contreras) have shown a great difference in activation when the focus
shifts from the movement to the contraction of the specific muscle
8 May at 0924 middot Like
Mat Boule Wheeless can say what it wants Wheeless could have made a
mistake
8 May at 1338 middot Like middot 1
Posture Pro The rear deltoid actually has a lot more lever arm for ER of
shoulder than infraspinatus A such for rear deltoid to perform in ER you need
the infraspinatus and teres minor to stabilize the joint That being said the deltoid
is a phasic muscle and the infraspinatus and teres minor are tonic The idea of
the blog was to raise awareness as to the fact that these muscles serve
complementary yet different functions
8 May at 1422 middot Like middot 2
Vlad Padina Do you haveare there any articles or studies about the lever arms
of each external rotator
8 May at 1942 middot Like
Mat Boule Have you done dissections Vlad
8 May at 1943 middot Like
Vlad Padina Or the angles of pull pf each Much of the post delts strength will
be wasted due to its line of pull
8 May at 1945 middot Like
Vlad Padina No Mat Why
8 May at 1945 middot Like
Vlad Padina Btw is the surface of the greater tubercle further away from the GH
joints axis than the deltoidal tuberosity
8 May at 1946 middot Edited middot Like
Mat Boule In a dissection you can have a 3D perspective that allows you to
understand fully the point made in the blog
8 May at 1946 middot Like middot 1
Mat Boule The rear deltoid (origin and insertion) sits further away from the GH
join than the infraspinatus or teres minor Since these muscles all perform some
ER the rear deltoid has the greatest lever therefore it has the mechanical
advantage
8 May at 1949 middot Like
Vlad Padina So if the rear delt would insert near the elbow it would have a
greater mechanical advantage
8 May at 1951 middot Like
Mat Boule Vlad I will not be hosting a biomechanics course on this thread If
you have further questions about this issue I invite you to contact Posture Pro
directly Have a great day
8 May at 1952 middot Like
Vlad Padina This iswas my last question Please I am really interested in an
answer even a yesno answer to my last question
8 May at 1953 middot Like
Mat Boule If the rear deltoid attached closer to the elbow that to the deltoid
tuberosity it would indeed have a greater lever length that it already does It
would give it more torque around the GH joint to perform ER of the shoulder
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Itrsquos sad to say that many people care more about how they look then how they
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seeing his transformation photos I can only hope that he notices his poor posture
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constraints and pressure on the intervertebral discs An intervertebral disc
has a lamellar structure that acts as a super shock absorber The discs can
absorb shock in every dimension of space however they do not perform well
when in ldquotorsionrdquo What causes a disc to be in torsion A postural imbalance
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optimally Humans ar See More
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Proper posture and good eye alignment are two of the most important
elements of a consistent golf swing
Eye exercises can immediately benefit the everyday golfer and widespread
performance breakthrough in putting If your eyes arenrsquot converging properly
chances are that your shoulders are misaligned when you putt
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The eye is not only an element of vision it is also (with the foot) one of the
most important receptors in the postural system When muscles that move
the eyes are out of balance perception of the environment changes and the
entire body attempts to compensate for that phenomenon In doing so shifts
and rotations of the shoulders and pelvis occur and postural alignment
suffers
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7 May
Is There a Point to Training Your Rotator Cuff
The Posturology Blog
Annette Verpillot The fitness industry considers most muscles
as equals Certainly some gurus like to play favorites yet no
one is willing to stand up and say this is the most important
muscle We do know and recognize by now that muscles
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Stabilizing muscles such as the rotator cuff is under the dependence of the
involuntary motor system They are in close contact with the joints and
contain a high amount of type I muscle fibers They are built for endurance
Attempting to recruit these muscles via exercise means the superficial
muscles will kick in first and take over Attempting to train stabilizers is a
waste of time
Is There a Point to Training Your Rotator Cuff
posturologyblogcom
The fitness industry considers most muscles as equals
Certainly some gurus like to play favorites yet no one is willing
to stand up and say this is the most important muscle We do
know and recognize by now that muscles work in chains This
9 28 6 SharesLike middot Comment middot Share
9 people like this
Vlad Padina Umm
Guys
Did you ever actually pick up a dumbell and try to train your external rotators
Or did you ever do heavy military presses for reps
7 May at 1825 middot Like middot 1
Vlad Padina No really you should try it sometimes
And you should try the bodybuilding concept of creating a mind-muscle
connection
[this was a very polite way of saying this article is almost completely wrong and
provably so]
7 May at 1829 middot Like middot 1
Vlad Padina I mean if your infraspinatus doesnt contract when doing external
rotations and you dont feel it working it probably means its inhibited and other
muscles are taking over
7 May at 1831 middot Edited middot Like
Posture Pro Vlad Padina we once thought the earth was flat (this is a very polite
way of saying you should take our course) to learn how the brain contracts
muscles and how muscle levers work in regards to the respective joint
7 May at 1931 middot Like
Vlad Padina Look you said the IS and TM wont work during isolated external
rotations but rather the posterior delt will take most of the weight
For some weird reason I can thoroughly work my infraspinatus and teres minor
feel the burn in them while working and feel the soreness the next day
And no they are not weak I can use 15 lb for 10 reps on strict external rotations
with the arm near the body and about the same for strict external rotations and I
can also overhead press wo any pain
7 May at 1936 middot Like
Posture Pro Keep up the good work
7 May at 1937 middot Like
Vlad Padina Well why can I feel them working if they dont actually work
7 May at 1944 middot Like
Vlad Padina mr Poliquin recounts how he increased someones bench press
by 50 lb to about 350 just by increasing his ext rotation strength from 8 lb x 8 to
35 lb x 8
7 May at 2110 middot Edited middot Like
Brett Jones I think this can boiled down in this way
strength and stability are different
stability is reflex driven
just because you feel a muscle working doesnt mean it will fire when it is
needed to fire
The feed forward tension of strength training is not the reflex activity needed to get
the stabilizers to fire in the correct sequence
When stabilizers fire first only 20-30 of their MVC is needed - when they dont
then the prime movers take over
All of this depends on joint angle etc in defining what is stabilizing at a
particular point and what is prime moving etc
Train stabilizers allowing for a proprioceptively rich environment where the reflex
activation can be encouraged is the way to go IMO
7 May at 2148 middot Like middot 2
Vlad Padina Simply put if you can see a muscle it is made to move you If you
canrsquot itrsquos made to stabilize you
The infraspinatus is as visible as the biceps brachii and very hypertrophyable
The teres minor is visible Both can get sore after direct and indirect training
Training both directly helped some people get much stronger and get rid of
shoulder pain
Maybe it was expected that readers read between the lines
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But the article says some things which in the way they were stated can be easily
proven wrong
I am not competent in neurology - this I will admit - but the article makes
assertions about mechanics which are somewhat unfounded
Can the author tell us how long would an average lever arm for the posterior delt
be and how long for the infraspinatus
7 May at 2232 middot Edited middot Like
Vlad Padina Also the infraspinatus seems to have better lever arm for external
rotation than the posterior delt and a much better line of pull especially when the
arm is not abducted
7 May at 2238 middot Edited middot Like middot 1
Mat Boule Hi Vlad I have been known to pick up a DB or two in my youth Ill
address your first concept the mind-muscle connection For the mind-muscle
connection to take place you need an involvement of the frontal lobe (motor
cortex) This is occuring everytime you move a limb In that respect it is not a
bodybuilding concept it is basic neurophysiology The question is not whether the
infraspinatus contributes to the ER fo the shoulder or not The question is that
based on levers and mechanical advantage it contributes far less than the rear
deltoid Thats physics not an opinion Feeling a burning sensation in a specific
muscle the next day can mean the muscle contributed to the effort It does not
stipulate if that muscle was acting as a stabilizer as suggested in the blog or a
mobilizer (the common beliefhellip and I did say belief) I understand that you can
see the infraspinatus and the teres minor The idea was to graphically position
muscles superficial versus deep The superficial ones are more easily spotted
and are further away from the joint axis They are if only for that reason better
mobilizers and will mobilize more any day than the deeper muscles
8 May at 0430 middot Like middot 2
Terry Hughes Ha ha said people would get protective over this
8 May at 0845 middot Like middot 1
Vlad Padina Article with measurement of lever arm and angle of pull for post
delt vs infraspinatus Wheeless Orthopaedics says the IS is the main ext rotator
not the delt
8 May at 0854 middot Edited middot Like
Vlad Padina Mat the concept is that you concentrate on the muscle not the
movement Recent EMG measurements (will post the article today it was written
by Bret Contreras) have shown a great difference in activation when the focus
shifts from the movement to the contraction of the specific muscle
8 May at 0924 middot Like
Mat Boule Wheeless can say what it wants Wheeless could have made a
mistake
8 May at 1338 middot Like middot 1
Posture Pro The rear deltoid actually has a lot more lever arm for ER of
shoulder than infraspinatus A such for rear deltoid to perform in ER you need
the infraspinatus and teres minor to stabilize the joint That being said the deltoid
is a phasic muscle and the infraspinatus and teres minor are tonic The idea of
the blog was to raise awareness as to the fact that these muscles serve
complementary yet different functions
8 May at 1422 middot Like middot 2
Vlad Padina Do you haveare there any articles or studies about the lever arms
of each external rotator
8 May at 1942 middot Like
Mat Boule Have you done dissections Vlad
8 May at 1943 middot Like
Vlad Padina Or the angles of pull pf each Much of the post delts strength will
be wasted due to its line of pull
8 May at 1945 middot Like
Vlad Padina No Mat Why
8 May at 1945 middot Like
Vlad Padina Btw is the surface of the greater tubercle further away from the GH
joints axis than the deltoidal tuberosity
8 May at 1946 middot Edited middot Like
Mat Boule In a dissection you can have a 3D perspective that allows you to
understand fully the point made in the blog
8 May at 1946 middot Like middot 1
Mat Boule The rear deltoid (origin and insertion) sits further away from the GH
join than the infraspinatus or teres minor Since these muscles all perform some
ER the rear deltoid has the greatest lever therefore it has the mechanical
advantage
8 May at 1949 middot Like
Vlad Padina So if the rear delt would insert near the elbow it would have a
greater mechanical advantage
8 May at 1951 middot Like
Mat Boule Vlad I will not be hosting a biomechanics course on this thread If
you have further questions about this issue I invite you to contact Posture Pro
directly Have a great day
8 May at 1952 middot Like
Vlad Padina This iswas my last question Please I am really interested in an
answer even a yesno answer to my last question
8 May at 1953 middot Like
Mat Boule If the rear deltoid attached closer to the elbow that to the deltoid
tuberosity it would indeed have a greater lever length that it already does It
would give it more torque around the GH joint to perform ER of the shoulder
7142014 Posture Pro
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Write a comment
Posture Pro
6 May
Congratulations to another group of savvy coaches Luke Watson and Terry
Hughes who just completed levels 3 and 4 of PIPP program and our
Advanced Eye Program Great guys and looking forward to seeing them
excel in the industry Our next programs runs in June in Montreal for more
information go to httpwwwposturepronetupcoming-eventsmontreal
10 2 SharesLike middot Comment middot Share
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30 April
Level 3 starts today in Montreal with Luke Watson and Terry Hughes mdash at
Posturepro
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Terry Hughes
29 April
Off to Montreal today
Posture Pro Levels 3 and 4 and Advanced eye movement and vision training
Taking Performance to another level
20 4Like middot Comment middot Share
Posture Pro
27 April
Dont miss out on day three of the woman show sundaymorning results
live womanshowmontreal posturepro mdash with Jackie Kalfayan and Annette
Verpillot at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal - Montreal Convention Center
025
6Like middot Comment middot Share
Posture Pro
26 April
Its not too late to get your free assessment with Posturepro Hear what Pam
has to say about it We hope to see you here nomopain pam happy mdash
with Jackie Kalfayan at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal - Montreal
Convention Center
038
6Like middot Comment middot Share
Posture Pro
26 April
Posture Pro
Day two of the Woman Show over 150 postural assessments performed
Donrsquot miss out on your opportunity to find out the link between your posture
and your pain See you there posturepro changinglives nomorepain
painfreeliving fixyourposture posturologyisthefuture mdash with Jackie
7142014 Posture Pro
httpswwwfacebookcomposturepro 1415
Kalfayan and Annette Verpillot at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal - Montreal
Convention Center
7Like middot Comment
Posture Pro changed her cover photo
26 April
5 1 ShareLike middot Comment middot Share
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25 April
Come and see us at the Woman Show at the Palais des Congregraves for a fun
contest and a free Postural Assessment Friday Saturday and Sunday mdash
with Jackie Kalfayan and Annette Verpillot at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal
- Montreal Convention Center (5 photos)
9 1Like middot Comment
Posture Pro shared a link
22 April
Can weight lifting fix your posture
7142014 Posture Pro
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Can weight lifting fix your posture
posturologyblogcom
Itrsquos sad to say that many people care more about how they look then how they
function Check out this before and after photo I applaud his success but now after
seeing his transformation photos I can only hope that he notices his poor posture
His
9 2 1 ShareLike middot Comment middot Share
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Degenerative Disc Disease is caused by irregular oblique and torsion
constraints and pressure on the intervertebral discs An intervertebral disc
has a lamellar structure that acts as a super shock absorber The discs can
absorb shock in every dimension of space however they do not perform well
when in ldquotorsionrdquo What causes a disc to be in torsion A postural imbalance
11 3 1 ShareLike middot Comment middot Stop Notifications middot Share
Posture Pro
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Standing up may seem like a simple movement however the decisions to
stand up and stay up send out signals throughout the body to keep you in a
balanced upright position If your sensors (eyes feet skin TMJ) are not
projecting symmetri See More
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Posture Pro
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If you are looking to increase strength performance with your athletes then
Posturology is a great tool to add to your arsenal Although postural
imbalances are very common they are not ideal for your body to function
optimally Humans ar See More
ABOUT
President at Posturepro
Secondary School
Lives in Montreal Quebec
Home towncity
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Earlier in 2014
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30 May
Proper posture and good eye alignment are two of the most important
elements of a consistent golf swing
Eye exercises can immediately benefit the everyday golfer and widespread
performance breakthrough in putting If your eyes arenrsquot converging properly
chances are that your shoulders are misaligned when you putt
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Followed by 466 people
middot PHOTOS 8
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middot
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REVIEWS 1
RECENT ACTIVITY
Posture is going to Posturology PIPP in
Santa Monica CA
HIGHLIGHTS
Posture Pro
29 May
The eye is not only an element of vision it is also (with the foot) one of the
most important receptors in the postural system When muscles that move
the eyes are out of balance perception of the environment changes and the
entire body attempts to compensate for that phenomenon In doing so shifts
and rotations of the shoulders and pelvis occur and postural alignment
suffers
7142014 Posture Pro
httpswwwfacebookcomposturepro 915
15 4 SharesLike middot Comment middot Share
Posture Pro
21 May
Mario is the latest supporter of Posturology We are very excited for this
collaboration and look forward to partnering with Mario on future Posturology
initiatives amp campaigns Stay tuned mdash at Posturepro
4Like middot Comment
More posts from 7 May to 21
Posture Pro shared a link via NetworkedBlogs
7 May
Is There a Point to Training Your Rotator Cuff
The Posturology Blog
Annette Verpillot The fitness industry considers most muscles
as equals Certainly some gurus like to play favorites yet no
one is willing to stand up and say this is the most important
muscle We do know and recognize by now that muscles
11 7 SharesLike middot Comment middot Share
PHOTOS middot 2014
7142014 Posture Pro
httpswwwfacebookcomposturepro 1015
Posture Pro shared a link
7 May
Stabilizing muscles such as the rotator cuff is under the dependence of the
involuntary motor system They are in close contact with the joints and
contain a high amount of type I muscle fibers They are built for endurance
Attempting to recruit these muscles via exercise means the superficial
muscles will kick in first and take over Attempting to train stabilizers is a
waste of time
Is There a Point to Training Your Rotator Cuff
posturologyblogcom
The fitness industry considers most muscles as equals
Certainly some gurus like to play favorites yet no one is willing
to stand up and say this is the most important muscle We do
know and recognize by now that muscles work in chains This
9 28 6 SharesLike middot Comment middot Share
9 people like this
Vlad Padina Umm
Guys
Did you ever actually pick up a dumbell and try to train your external rotators
Or did you ever do heavy military presses for reps
7 May at 1825 middot Like middot 1
Vlad Padina No really you should try it sometimes
And you should try the bodybuilding concept of creating a mind-muscle
connection
[this was a very polite way of saying this article is almost completely wrong and
provably so]
7 May at 1829 middot Like middot 1
Vlad Padina I mean if your infraspinatus doesnt contract when doing external
rotations and you dont feel it working it probably means its inhibited and other
muscles are taking over
7 May at 1831 middot Edited middot Like
Posture Pro Vlad Padina we once thought the earth was flat (this is a very polite
way of saying you should take our course) to learn how the brain contracts
muscles and how muscle levers work in regards to the respective joint
7 May at 1931 middot Like
Vlad Padina Look you said the IS and TM wont work during isolated external
rotations but rather the posterior delt will take most of the weight
For some weird reason I can thoroughly work my infraspinatus and teres minor
feel the burn in them while working and feel the soreness the next day
And no they are not weak I can use 15 lb for 10 reps on strict external rotations
with the arm near the body and about the same for strict external rotations and I
can also overhead press wo any pain
7 May at 1936 middot Like
Posture Pro Keep up the good work
7 May at 1937 middot Like
Vlad Padina Well why can I feel them working if they dont actually work
7 May at 1944 middot Like
Vlad Padina mr Poliquin recounts how he increased someones bench press
by 50 lb to about 350 just by increasing his ext rotation strength from 8 lb x 8 to
35 lb x 8
7 May at 2110 middot Edited middot Like
Brett Jones I think this can boiled down in this way
strength and stability are different
stability is reflex driven
just because you feel a muscle working doesnt mean it will fire when it is
needed to fire
The feed forward tension of strength training is not the reflex activity needed to get
the stabilizers to fire in the correct sequence
When stabilizers fire first only 20-30 of their MVC is needed - when they dont
then the prime movers take over
All of this depends on joint angle etc in defining what is stabilizing at a
particular point and what is prime moving etc
Train stabilizers allowing for a proprioceptively rich environment where the reflex
activation can be encouraged is the way to go IMO
7 May at 2148 middot Like middot 2
Vlad Padina Simply put if you can see a muscle it is made to move you If you
canrsquot itrsquos made to stabilize you
The infraspinatus is as visible as the biceps brachii and very hypertrophyable
The teres minor is visible Both can get sore after direct and indirect training
Training both directly helped some people get much stronger and get rid of
shoulder pain
Maybe it was expected that readers read between the lines
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But the article says some things which in the way they were stated can be easily
proven wrong
I am not competent in neurology - this I will admit - but the article makes
assertions about mechanics which are somewhat unfounded
Can the author tell us how long would an average lever arm for the posterior delt
be and how long for the infraspinatus
7 May at 2232 middot Edited middot Like
Vlad Padina Also the infraspinatus seems to have better lever arm for external
rotation than the posterior delt and a much better line of pull especially when the
arm is not abducted
7 May at 2238 middot Edited middot Like middot 1
Mat Boule Hi Vlad I have been known to pick up a DB or two in my youth Ill
address your first concept the mind-muscle connection For the mind-muscle
connection to take place you need an involvement of the frontal lobe (motor
cortex) This is occuring everytime you move a limb In that respect it is not a
bodybuilding concept it is basic neurophysiology The question is not whether the
infraspinatus contributes to the ER fo the shoulder or not The question is that
based on levers and mechanical advantage it contributes far less than the rear
deltoid Thats physics not an opinion Feeling a burning sensation in a specific
muscle the next day can mean the muscle contributed to the effort It does not
stipulate if that muscle was acting as a stabilizer as suggested in the blog or a
mobilizer (the common beliefhellip and I did say belief) I understand that you can
see the infraspinatus and the teres minor The idea was to graphically position
muscles superficial versus deep The superficial ones are more easily spotted
and are further away from the joint axis They are if only for that reason better
mobilizers and will mobilize more any day than the deeper muscles
8 May at 0430 middot Like middot 2
Terry Hughes Ha ha said people would get protective over this
8 May at 0845 middot Like middot 1
Vlad Padina Article with measurement of lever arm and angle of pull for post
delt vs infraspinatus Wheeless Orthopaedics says the IS is the main ext rotator
not the delt
8 May at 0854 middot Edited middot Like
Vlad Padina Mat the concept is that you concentrate on the muscle not the
movement Recent EMG measurements (will post the article today it was written
by Bret Contreras) have shown a great difference in activation when the focus
shifts from the movement to the contraction of the specific muscle
8 May at 0924 middot Like
Mat Boule Wheeless can say what it wants Wheeless could have made a
mistake
8 May at 1338 middot Like middot 1
Posture Pro The rear deltoid actually has a lot more lever arm for ER of
shoulder than infraspinatus A such for rear deltoid to perform in ER you need
the infraspinatus and teres minor to stabilize the joint That being said the deltoid
is a phasic muscle and the infraspinatus and teres minor are tonic The idea of
the blog was to raise awareness as to the fact that these muscles serve
complementary yet different functions
8 May at 1422 middot Like middot 2
Vlad Padina Do you haveare there any articles or studies about the lever arms
of each external rotator
8 May at 1942 middot Like
Mat Boule Have you done dissections Vlad
8 May at 1943 middot Like
Vlad Padina Or the angles of pull pf each Much of the post delts strength will
be wasted due to its line of pull
8 May at 1945 middot Like
Vlad Padina No Mat Why
8 May at 1945 middot Like
Vlad Padina Btw is the surface of the greater tubercle further away from the GH
joints axis than the deltoidal tuberosity
8 May at 1946 middot Edited middot Like
Mat Boule In a dissection you can have a 3D perspective that allows you to
understand fully the point made in the blog
8 May at 1946 middot Like middot 1
Mat Boule The rear deltoid (origin and insertion) sits further away from the GH
join than the infraspinatus or teres minor Since these muscles all perform some
ER the rear deltoid has the greatest lever therefore it has the mechanical
advantage
8 May at 1949 middot Like
Vlad Padina So if the rear delt would insert near the elbow it would have a
greater mechanical advantage
8 May at 1951 middot Like
Mat Boule Vlad I will not be hosting a biomechanics course on this thread If
you have further questions about this issue I invite you to contact Posture Pro
directly Have a great day
8 May at 1952 middot Like
Vlad Padina This iswas my last question Please I am really interested in an
answer even a yesno answer to my last question
8 May at 1953 middot Like
Mat Boule If the rear deltoid attached closer to the elbow that to the deltoid
tuberosity it would indeed have a greater lever length that it already does It
would give it more torque around the GH joint to perform ER of the shoulder
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Advanced Eye Program Great guys and looking forward to seeing them
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information go to httpwwwposturepronetupcoming-eventsmontreal
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Off to Montreal today
Posture Pro Levels 3 and 4 and Advanced eye movement and vision training
Taking Performance to another level
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Dont miss out on day three of the woman show sundaymorning results
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Its not too late to get your free assessment with Posturepro Hear what Pam
has to say about it We hope to see you here nomopain pam happy mdash
with Jackie Kalfayan at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal - Montreal
Convention Center
038
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Day two of the Woman Show over 150 postural assessments performed
Donrsquot miss out on your opportunity to find out the link between your posture
and your pain See you there posturepro changinglives nomorepain
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Kalfayan and Annette Verpillot at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal - Montreal
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Come and see us at the Woman Show at the Palais des Congregraves for a fun
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with Jackie Kalfayan and Annette Verpillot at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal
- Montreal Convention Center (5 photos)
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Can weight lifting fix your posture
posturologyblogcom
Itrsquos sad to say that many people care more about how they look then how they
function Check out this before and after photo I applaud his success but now after
seeing his transformation photos I can only hope that he notices his poor posture
His
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Proper posture and good eye alignment are two of the most important
elements of a consistent golf swing
Eye exercises can immediately benefit the everyday golfer and widespread
performance breakthrough in putting If your eyes arenrsquot converging properly
chances are that your shoulders are misaligned when you putt
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The eye is not only an element of vision it is also (with the foot) one of the
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entire body attempts to compensate for that phenomenon In doing so shifts
and rotations of the shoulders and pelvis occur and postural alignment
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Is There a Point to Training Your Rotator Cuff
The Posturology Blog
Annette Verpillot The fitness industry considers most muscles
as equals Certainly some gurus like to play favorites yet no
one is willing to stand up and say this is the most important
muscle We do know and recognize by now that muscles
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Stabilizing muscles such as the rotator cuff is under the dependence of the
involuntary motor system They are in close contact with the joints and
contain a high amount of type I muscle fibers They are built for endurance
Attempting to recruit these muscles via exercise means the superficial
muscles will kick in first and take over Attempting to train stabilizers is a
waste of time
Is There a Point to Training Your Rotator Cuff
posturologyblogcom
The fitness industry considers most muscles as equals
Certainly some gurus like to play favorites yet no one is willing
to stand up and say this is the most important muscle We do
know and recognize by now that muscles work in chains This
9 28 6 SharesLike middot Comment middot Share
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Vlad Padina Umm
Guys
Did you ever actually pick up a dumbell and try to train your external rotators
Or did you ever do heavy military presses for reps
7 May at 1825 middot Like middot 1
Vlad Padina No really you should try it sometimes
And you should try the bodybuilding concept of creating a mind-muscle
connection
[this was a very polite way of saying this article is almost completely wrong and
provably so]
7 May at 1829 middot Like middot 1
Vlad Padina I mean if your infraspinatus doesnt contract when doing external
rotations and you dont feel it working it probably means its inhibited and other
muscles are taking over
7 May at 1831 middot Edited middot Like
Posture Pro Vlad Padina we once thought the earth was flat (this is a very polite
way of saying you should take our course) to learn how the brain contracts
muscles and how muscle levers work in regards to the respective joint
7 May at 1931 middot Like
Vlad Padina Look you said the IS and TM wont work during isolated external
rotations but rather the posterior delt will take most of the weight
For some weird reason I can thoroughly work my infraspinatus and teres minor
feel the burn in them while working and feel the soreness the next day
And no they are not weak I can use 15 lb for 10 reps on strict external rotations
with the arm near the body and about the same for strict external rotations and I
can also overhead press wo any pain
7 May at 1936 middot Like
Posture Pro Keep up the good work
7 May at 1937 middot Like
Vlad Padina Well why can I feel them working if they dont actually work
7 May at 1944 middot Like
Vlad Padina mr Poliquin recounts how he increased someones bench press
by 50 lb to about 350 just by increasing his ext rotation strength from 8 lb x 8 to
35 lb x 8
7 May at 2110 middot Edited middot Like
Brett Jones I think this can boiled down in this way
strength and stability are different
stability is reflex driven
just because you feel a muscle working doesnt mean it will fire when it is
needed to fire
The feed forward tension of strength training is not the reflex activity needed to get
the stabilizers to fire in the correct sequence
When stabilizers fire first only 20-30 of their MVC is needed - when they dont
then the prime movers take over
All of this depends on joint angle etc in defining what is stabilizing at a
particular point and what is prime moving etc
Train stabilizers allowing for a proprioceptively rich environment where the reflex
activation can be encouraged is the way to go IMO
7 May at 2148 middot Like middot 2
Vlad Padina Simply put if you can see a muscle it is made to move you If you
canrsquot itrsquos made to stabilize you
The infraspinatus is as visible as the biceps brachii and very hypertrophyable
The teres minor is visible Both can get sore after direct and indirect training
Training both directly helped some people get much stronger and get rid of
shoulder pain
Maybe it was expected that readers read between the lines
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But the article says some things which in the way they were stated can be easily
proven wrong
I am not competent in neurology - this I will admit - but the article makes
assertions about mechanics which are somewhat unfounded
Can the author tell us how long would an average lever arm for the posterior delt
be and how long for the infraspinatus
7 May at 2232 middot Edited middot Like
Vlad Padina Also the infraspinatus seems to have better lever arm for external
rotation than the posterior delt and a much better line of pull especially when the
arm is not abducted
7 May at 2238 middot Edited middot Like middot 1
Mat Boule Hi Vlad I have been known to pick up a DB or two in my youth Ill
address your first concept the mind-muscle connection For the mind-muscle
connection to take place you need an involvement of the frontal lobe (motor
cortex) This is occuring everytime you move a limb In that respect it is not a
bodybuilding concept it is basic neurophysiology The question is not whether the
infraspinatus contributes to the ER fo the shoulder or not The question is that
based on levers and mechanical advantage it contributes far less than the rear
deltoid Thats physics not an opinion Feeling a burning sensation in a specific
muscle the next day can mean the muscle contributed to the effort It does not
stipulate if that muscle was acting as a stabilizer as suggested in the blog or a
mobilizer (the common beliefhellip and I did say belief) I understand that you can
see the infraspinatus and the teres minor The idea was to graphically position
muscles superficial versus deep The superficial ones are more easily spotted
and are further away from the joint axis They are if only for that reason better
mobilizers and will mobilize more any day than the deeper muscles
8 May at 0430 middot Like middot 2
Terry Hughes Ha ha said people would get protective over this
8 May at 0845 middot Like middot 1
Vlad Padina Article with measurement of lever arm and angle of pull for post
delt vs infraspinatus Wheeless Orthopaedics says the IS is the main ext rotator
not the delt
8 May at 0854 middot Edited middot Like
Vlad Padina Mat the concept is that you concentrate on the muscle not the
movement Recent EMG measurements (will post the article today it was written
by Bret Contreras) have shown a great difference in activation when the focus
shifts from the movement to the contraction of the specific muscle
8 May at 0924 middot Like
Mat Boule Wheeless can say what it wants Wheeless could have made a
mistake
8 May at 1338 middot Like middot 1
Posture Pro The rear deltoid actually has a lot more lever arm for ER of
shoulder than infraspinatus A such for rear deltoid to perform in ER you need
the infraspinatus and teres minor to stabilize the joint That being said the deltoid
is a phasic muscle and the infraspinatus and teres minor are tonic The idea of
the blog was to raise awareness as to the fact that these muscles serve
complementary yet different functions
8 May at 1422 middot Like middot 2
Vlad Padina Do you haveare there any articles or studies about the lever arms
of each external rotator
8 May at 1942 middot Like
Mat Boule Have you done dissections Vlad
8 May at 1943 middot Like
Vlad Padina Or the angles of pull pf each Much of the post delts strength will
be wasted due to its line of pull
8 May at 1945 middot Like
Vlad Padina No Mat Why
8 May at 1945 middot Like
Vlad Padina Btw is the surface of the greater tubercle further away from the GH
joints axis than the deltoidal tuberosity
8 May at 1946 middot Edited middot Like
Mat Boule In a dissection you can have a 3D perspective that allows you to
understand fully the point made in the blog
8 May at 1946 middot Like middot 1
Mat Boule The rear deltoid (origin and insertion) sits further away from the GH
join than the infraspinatus or teres minor Since these muscles all perform some
ER the rear deltoid has the greatest lever therefore it has the mechanical
advantage
8 May at 1949 middot Like
Vlad Padina So if the rear delt would insert near the elbow it would have a
greater mechanical advantage
8 May at 1951 middot Like
Mat Boule Vlad I will not be hosting a biomechanics course on this thread If
you have further questions about this issue I invite you to contact Posture Pro
directly Have a great day
8 May at 1952 middot Like
Vlad Padina This iswas my last question Please I am really interested in an
answer even a yesno answer to my last question
8 May at 1953 middot Like
Mat Boule If the rear deltoid attached closer to the elbow that to the deltoid
tuberosity it would indeed have a greater lever length that it already does It
would give it more torque around the GH joint to perform ER of the shoulder
7142014 Posture Pro
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8 May at 1954 middot Like
Write a comment
Posture Pro
6 May
Congratulations to another group of savvy coaches Luke Watson and Terry
Hughes who just completed levels 3 and 4 of PIPP program and our
Advanced Eye Program Great guys and looking forward to seeing them
excel in the industry Our next programs runs in June in Montreal for more
information go to httpwwwposturepronetupcoming-eventsmontreal
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30 April
Level 3 starts today in Montreal with Luke Watson and Terry Hughes mdash at
Posturepro
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Terry Hughes
29 April
Off to Montreal today
Posture Pro Levels 3 and 4 and Advanced eye movement and vision training
Taking Performance to another level
20 4Like middot Comment middot Share
Posture Pro
27 April
Dont miss out on day three of the woman show sundaymorning results
live womanshowmontreal posturepro mdash with Jackie Kalfayan and Annette
Verpillot at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal - Montreal Convention Center
025
6Like middot Comment middot Share
Posture Pro
26 April
Its not too late to get your free assessment with Posturepro Hear what Pam
has to say about it We hope to see you here nomopain pam happy mdash
with Jackie Kalfayan at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal - Montreal
Convention Center
038
6Like middot Comment middot Share
Posture Pro
26 April
Posture Pro
Day two of the Woman Show over 150 postural assessments performed
Donrsquot miss out on your opportunity to find out the link between your posture
and your pain See you there posturepro changinglives nomorepain
painfreeliving fixyourposture posturologyisthefuture mdash with Jackie
7142014 Posture Pro
httpswwwfacebookcomposturepro 1415
Kalfayan and Annette Verpillot at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal - Montreal
Convention Center
7Like middot Comment
Posture Pro changed her cover photo
26 April
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25 April
Come and see us at the Woman Show at the Palais des Congregraves for a fun
contest and a free Postural Assessment Friday Saturday and Sunday mdash
with Jackie Kalfayan and Annette Verpillot at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal
- Montreal Convention Center (5 photos)
9 1Like middot Comment
Posture Pro shared a link
22 April
Can weight lifting fix your posture
7142014 Posture Pro
httpswwwfacebookcomposturepro 1515
Can weight lifting fix your posture
posturologyblogcom
Itrsquos sad to say that many people care more about how they look then how they
function Check out this before and after photo I applaud his success but now after
seeing his transformation photos I can only hope that he notices his poor posture
His
9 2 1 ShareLike middot Comment middot Share
See More 2014 Stories
7142014 Posture Pro
httpswwwfacebookcomposturepro 915
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Posture Pro
21 May
Mario is the latest supporter of Posturology We are very excited for this
collaboration and look forward to partnering with Mario on future Posturology
initiatives amp campaigns Stay tuned mdash at Posturepro
4Like middot Comment
More posts from 7 May to 21
Posture Pro shared a link via NetworkedBlogs
7 May
Is There a Point to Training Your Rotator Cuff
The Posturology Blog
Annette Verpillot The fitness industry considers most muscles
as equals Certainly some gurus like to play favorites yet no
one is willing to stand up and say this is the most important
muscle We do know and recognize by now that muscles
11 7 SharesLike middot Comment middot Share
PHOTOS middot 2014
7142014 Posture Pro
httpswwwfacebookcomposturepro 1015
Posture Pro shared a link
7 May
Stabilizing muscles such as the rotator cuff is under the dependence of the
involuntary motor system They are in close contact with the joints and
contain a high amount of type I muscle fibers They are built for endurance
Attempting to recruit these muscles via exercise means the superficial
muscles will kick in first and take over Attempting to train stabilizers is a
waste of time
Is There a Point to Training Your Rotator Cuff
posturologyblogcom
The fitness industry considers most muscles as equals
Certainly some gurus like to play favorites yet no one is willing
to stand up and say this is the most important muscle We do
know and recognize by now that muscles work in chains This
9 28 6 SharesLike middot Comment middot Share
9 people like this
Vlad Padina Umm
Guys
Did you ever actually pick up a dumbell and try to train your external rotators
Or did you ever do heavy military presses for reps
7 May at 1825 middot Like middot 1
Vlad Padina No really you should try it sometimes
And you should try the bodybuilding concept of creating a mind-muscle
connection
[this was a very polite way of saying this article is almost completely wrong and
provably so]
7 May at 1829 middot Like middot 1
Vlad Padina I mean if your infraspinatus doesnt contract when doing external
rotations and you dont feel it working it probably means its inhibited and other
muscles are taking over
7 May at 1831 middot Edited middot Like
Posture Pro Vlad Padina we once thought the earth was flat (this is a very polite
way of saying you should take our course) to learn how the brain contracts
muscles and how muscle levers work in regards to the respective joint
7 May at 1931 middot Like
Vlad Padina Look you said the IS and TM wont work during isolated external
rotations but rather the posterior delt will take most of the weight
For some weird reason I can thoroughly work my infraspinatus and teres minor
feel the burn in them while working and feel the soreness the next day
And no they are not weak I can use 15 lb for 10 reps on strict external rotations
with the arm near the body and about the same for strict external rotations and I
can also overhead press wo any pain
7 May at 1936 middot Like
Posture Pro Keep up the good work
7 May at 1937 middot Like
Vlad Padina Well why can I feel them working if they dont actually work
7 May at 1944 middot Like
Vlad Padina mr Poliquin recounts how he increased someones bench press
by 50 lb to about 350 just by increasing his ext rotation strength from 8 lb x 8 to
35 lb x 8
7 May at 2110 middot Edited middot Like
Brett Jones I think this can boiled down in this way
strength and stability are different
stability is reflex driven
just because you feel a muscle working doesnt mean it will fire when it is
needed to fire
The feed forward tension of strength training is not the reflex activity needed to get
the stabilizers to fire in the correct sequence
When stabilizers fire first only 20-30 of their MVC is needed - when they dont
then the prime movers take over
All of this depends on joint angle etc in defining what is stabilizing at a
particular point and what is prime moving etc
Train stabilizers allowing for a proprioceptively rich environment where the reflex
activation can be encouraged is the way to go IMO
7 May at 2148 middot Like middot 2
Vlad Padina Simply put if you can see a muscle it is made to move you If you
canrsquot itrsquos made to stabilize you
The infraspinatus is as visible as the biceps brachii and very hypertrophyable
The teres minor is visible Both can get sore after direct and indirect training
Training both directly helped some people get much stronger and get rid of
shoulder pain
Maybe it was expected that readers read between the lines
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But the article says some things which in the way they were stated can be easily
proven wrong
I am not competent in neurology - this I will admit - but the article makes
assertions about mechanics which are somewhat unfounded
Can the author tell us how long would an average lever arm for the posterior delt
be and how long for the infraspinatus
7 May at 2232 middot Edited middot Like
Vlad Padina Also the infraspinatus seems to have better lever arm for external
rotation than the posterior delt and a much better line of pull especially when the
arm is not abducted
7 May at 2238 middot Edited middot Like middot 1
Mat Boule Hi Vlad I have been known to pick up a DB or two in my youth Ill
address your first concept the mind-muscle connection For the mind-muscle
connection to take place you need an involvement of the frontal lobe (motor
cortex) This is occuring everytime you move a limb In that respect it is not a
bodybuilding concept it is basic neurophysiology The question is not whether the
infraspinatus contributes to the ER fo the shoulder or not The question is that
based on levers and mechanical advantage it contributes far less than the rear
deltoid Thats physics not an opinion Feeling a burning sensation in a specific
muscle the next day can mean the muscle contributed to the effort It does not
stipulate if that muscle was acting as a stabilizer as suggested in the blog or a
mobilizer (the common beliefhellip and I did say belief) I understand that you can
see the infraspinatus and the teres minor The idea was to graphically position
muscles superficial versus deep The superficial ones are more easily spotted
and are further away from the joint axis They are if only for that reason better
mobilizers and will mobilize more any day than the deeper muscles
8 May at 0430 middot Like middot 2
Terry Hughes Ha ha said people would get protective over this
8 May at 0845 middot Like middot 1
Vlad Padina Article with measurement of lever arm and angle of pull for post
delt vs infraspinatus Wheeless Orthopaedics says the IS is the main ext rotator
not the delt
8 May at 0854 middot Edited middot Like
Vlad Padina Mat the concept is that you concentrate on the muscle not the
movement Recent EMG measurements (will post the article today it was written
by Bret Contreras) have shown a great difference in activation when the focus
shifts from the movement to the contraction of the specific muscle
8 May at 0924 middot Like
Mat Boule Wheeless can say what it wants Wheeless could have made a
mistake
8 May at 1338 middot Like middot 1
Posture Pro The rear deltoid actually has a lot more lever arm for ER of
shoulder than infraspinatus A such for rear deltoid to perform in ER you need
the infraspinatus and teres minor to stabilize the joint That being said the deltoid
is a phasic muscle and the infraspinatus and teres minor are tonic The idea of
the blog was to raise awareness as to the fact that these muscles serve
complementary yet different functions
8 May at 1422 middot Like middot 2
Vlad Padina Do you haveare there any articles or studies about the lever arms
of each external rotator
8 May at 1942 middot Like
Mat Boule Have you done dissections Vlad
8 May at 1943 middot Like
Vlad Padina Or the angles of pull pf each Much of the post delts strength will
be wasted due to its line of pull
8 May at 1945 middot Like
Vlad Padina No Mat Why
8 May at 1945 middot Like
Vlad Padina Btw is the surface of the greater tubercle further away from the GH
joints axis than the deltoidal tuberosity
8 May at 1946 middot Edited middot Like
Mat Boule In a dissection you can have a 3D perspective that allows you to
understand fully the point made in the blog
8 May at 1946 middot Like middot 1
Mat Boule The rear deltoid (origin and insertion) sits further away from the GH
join than the infraspinatus or teres minor Since these muscles all perform some
ER the rear deltoid has the greatest lever therefore it has the mechanical
advantage
8 May at 1949 middot Like
Vlad Padina So if the rear delt would insert near the elbow it would have a
greater mechanical advantage
8 May at 1951 middot Like
Mat Boule Vlad I will not be hosting a biomechanics course on this thread If
you have further questions about this issue I invite you to contact Posture Pro
directly Have a great day
8 May at 1952 middot Like
Vlad Padina This iswas my last question Please I am really interested in an
answer even a yesno answer to my last question
8 May at 1953 middot Like
Mat Boule If the rear deltoid attached closer to the elbow that to the deltoid
tuberosity it would indeed have a greater lever length that it already does It
would give it more torque around the GH joint to perform ER of the shoulder
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Itrsquos sad to say that many people care more about how they look then how they
function Check out this before and after photo I applaud his success but now after
seeing his transformation photos I can only hope that he notices his poor posture
His
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Stabilizing muscles such as the rotator cuff is under the dependence of the
involuntary motor system They are in close contact with the joints and
contain a high amount of type I muscle fibers They are built for endurance
Attempting to recruit these muscles via exercise means the superficial
muscles will kick in first and take over Attempting to train stabilizers is a
waste of time
Is There a Point to Training Your Rotator Cuff
posturologyblogcom
The fitness industry considers most muscles as equals
Certainly some gurus like to play favorites yet no one is willing
to stand up and say this is the most important muscle We do
know and recognize by now that muscles work in chains This
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Vlad Padina Umm
Guys
Did you ever actually pick up a dumbell and try to train your external rotators
Or did you ever do heavy military presses for reps
7 May at 1825 middot Like middot 1
Vlad Padina No really you should try it sometimes
And you should try the bodybuilding concept of creating a mind-muscle
connection
[this was a very polite way of saying this article is almost completely wrong and
provably so]
7 May at 1829 middot Like middot 1
Vlad Padina I mean if your infraspinatus doesnt contract when doing external
rotations and you dont feel it working it probably means its inhibited and other
muscles are taking over
7 May at 1831 middot Edited middot Like
Posture Pro Vlad Padina we once thought the earth was flat (this is a very polite
way of saying you should take our course) to learn how the brain contracts
muscles and how muscle levers work in regards to the respective joint
7 May at 1931 middot Like
Vlad Padina Look you said the IS and TM wont work during isolated external
rotations but rather the posterior delt will take most of the weight
For some weird reason I can thoroughly work my infraspinatus and teres minor
feel the burn in them while working and feel the soreness the next day
And no they are not weak I can use 15 lb for 10 reps on strict external rotations
with the arm near the body and about the same for strict external rotations and I
can also overhead press wo any pain
7 May at 1936 middot Like
Posture Pro Keep up the good work
7 May at 1937 middot Like
Vlad Padina Well why can I feel them working if they dont actually work
7 May at 1944 middot Like
Vlad Padina mr Poliquin recounts how he increased someones bench press
by 50 lb to about 350 just by increasing his ext rotation strength from 8 lb x 8 to
35 lb x 8
7 May at 2110 middot Edited middot Like
Brett Jones I think this can boiled down in this way
strength and stability are different
stability is reflex driven
just because you feel a muscle working doesnt mean it will fire when it is
needed to fire
The feed forward tension of strength training is not the reflex activity needed to get
the stabilizers to fire in the correct sequence
When stabilizers fire first only 20-30 of their MVC is needed - when they dont
then the prime movers take over
All of this depends on joint angle etc in defining what is stabilizing at a
particular point and what is prime moving etc
Train stabilizers allowing for a proprioceptively rich environment where the reflex
activation can be encouraged is the way to go IMO
7 May at 2148 middot Like middot 2
Vlad Padina Simply put if you can see a muscle it is made to move you If you
canrsquot itrsquos made to stabilize you
The infraspinatus is as visible as the biceps brachii and very hypertrophyable
The teres minor is visible Both can get sore after direct and indirect training
Training both directly helped some people get much stronger and get rid of
shoulder pain
Maybe it was expected that readers read between the lines
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But the article says some things which in the way they were stated can be easily
proven wrong
I am not competent in neurology - this I will admit - but the article makes
assertions about mechanics which are somewhat unfounded
Can the author tell us how long would an average lever arm for the posterior delt
be and how long for the infraspinatus
7 May at 2232 middot Edited middot Like
Vlad Padina Also the infraspinatus seems to have better lever arm for external
rotation than the posterior delt and a much better line of pull especially when the
arm is not abducted
7 May at 2238 middot Edited middot Like middot 1
Mat Boule Hi Vlad I have been known to pick up a DB or two in my youth Ill
address your first concept the mind-muscle connection For the mind-muscle
connection to take place you need an involvement of the frontal lobe (motor
cortex) This is occuring everytime you move a limb In that respect it is not a
bodybuilding concept it is basic neurophysiology The question is not whether the
infraspinatus contributes to the ER fo the shoulder or not The question is that
based on levers and mechanical advantage it contributes far less than the rear
deltoid Thats physics not an opinion Feeling a burning sensation in a specific
muscle the next day can mean the muscle contributed to the effort It does not
stipulate if that muscle was acting as a stabilizer as suggested in the blog or a
mobilizer (the common beliefhellip and I did say belief) I understand that you can
see the infraspinatus and the teres minor The idea was to graphically position
muscles superficial versus deep The superficial ones are more easily spotted
and are further away from the joint axis They are if only for that reason better
mobilizers and will mobilize more any day than the deeper muscles
8 May at 0430 middot Like middot 2
Terry Hughes Ha ha said people would get protective over this
8 May at 0845 middot Like middot 1
Vlad Padina Article with measurement of lever arm and angle of pull for post
delt vs infraspinatus Wheeless Orthopaedics says the IS is the main ext rotator
not the delt
8 May at 0854 middot Edited middot Like
Vlad Padina Mat the concept is that you concentrate on the muscle not the
movement Recent EMG measurements (will post the article today it was written
by Bret Contreras) have shown a great difference in activation when the focus
shifts from the movement to the contraction of the specific muscle
8 May at 0924 middot Like
Mat Boule Wheeless can say what it wants Wheeless could have made a
mistake
8 May at 1338 middot Like middot 1
Posture Pro The rear deltoid actually has a lot more lever arm for ER of
shoulder than infraspinatus A such for rear deltoid to perform in ER you need
the infraspinatus and teres minor to stabilize the joint That being said the deltoid
is a phasic muscle and the infraspinatus and teres minor are tonic The idea of
the blog was to raise awareness as to the fact that these muscles serve
complementary yet different functions
8 May at 1422 middot Like middot 2
Vlad Padina Do you haveare there any articles or studies about the lever arms
of each external rotator
8 May at 1942 middot Like
Mat Boule Have you done dissections Vlad
8 May at 1943 middot Like
Vlad Padina Or the angles of pull pf each Much of the post delts strength will
be wasted due to its line of pull
8 May at 1945 middot Like
Vlad Padina No Mat Why
8 May at 1945 middot Like
Vlad Padina Btw is the surface of the greater tubercle further away from the GH
joints axis than the deltoidal tuberosity
8 May at 1946 middot Edited middot Like
Mat Boule In a dissection you can have a 3D perspective that allows you to
understand fully the point made in the blog
8 May at 1946 middot Like middot 1
Mat Boule The rear deltoid (origin and insertion) sits further away from the GH
join than the infraspinatus or teres minor Since these muscles all perform some
ER the rear deltoid has the greatest lever therefore it has the mechanical
advantage
8 May at 1949 middot Like
Vlad Padina So if the rear delt would insert near the elbow it would have a
greater mechanical advantage
8 May at 1951 middot Like
Mat Boule Vlad I will not be hosting a biomechanics course on this thread If
you have further questions about this issue I invite you to contact Posture Pro
directly Have a great day
8 May at 1952 middot Like
Vlad Padina This iswas my last question Please I am really interested in an
answer even a yesno answer to my last question
8 May at 1953 middot Like
Mat Boule If the rear deltoid attached closer to the elbow that to the deltoid
tuberosity it would indeed have a greater lever length that it already does It
would give it more torque around the GH joint to perform ER of the shoulder
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Write a comment
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6 May
Congratulations to another group of savvy coaches Luke Watson and Terry
Hughes who just completed levels 3 and 4 of PIPP program and our
Advanced Eye Program Great guys and looking forward to seeing them
excel in the industry Our next programs runs in June in Montreal for more
information go to httpwwwposturepronetupcoming-eventsmontreal
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29 April
Off to Montreal today
Posture Pro Levels 3 and 4 and Advanced eye movement and vision training
Taking Performance to another level
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27 April
Dont miss out on day three of the woman show sundaymorning results
live womanshowmontreal posturepro mdash with Jackie Kalfayan and Annette
Verpillot at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal - Montreal Convention Center
025
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26 April
Its not too late to get your free assessment with Posturepro Hear what Pam
has to say about it We hope to see you here nomopain pam happy mdash
with Jackie Kalfayan at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal - Montreal
Convention Center
038
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Posture Pro
26 April
Posture Pro
Day two of the Woman Show over 150 postural assessments performed
Donrsquot miss out on your opportunity to find out the link between your posture
and your pain See you there posturepro changinglives nomorepain
painfreeliving fixyourposture posturologyisthefuture mdash with Jackie
7142014 Posture Pro
httpswwwfacebookcomposturepro 1415
Kalfayan and Annette Verpillot at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal - Montreal
Convention Center
7Like middot Comment
Posture Pro changed her cover photo
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25 April
Come and see us at the Woman Show at the Palais des Congregraves for a fun
contest and a free Postural Assessment Friday Saturday and Sunday mdash
with Jackie Kalfayan and Annette Verpillot at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal
- Montreal Convention Center (5 photos)
9 1Like middot Comment
Posture Pro shared a link
22 April
Can weight lifting fix your posture
7142014 Posture Pro
httpswwwfacebookcomposturepro 1515
Can weight lifting fix your posture
posturologyblogcom
Itrsquos sad to say that many people care more about how they look then how they
function Check out this before and after photo I applaud his success but now after
seeing his transformation photos I can only hope that he notices his poor posture
His
9 2 1 ShareLike middot Comment middot Share
See More 2014 Stories
7142014 Posture Pro
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But the article says some things which in the way they were stated can be easily
proven wrong
I am not competent in neurology - this I will admit - but the article makes
assertions about mechanics which are somewhat unfounded
Can the author tell us how long would an average lever arm for the posterior delt
be and how long for the infraspinatus
7 May at 2232 middot Edited middot Like
Vlad Padina Also the infraspinatus seems to have better lever arm for external
rotation than the posterior delt and a much better line of pull especially when the
arm is not abducted
7 May at 2238 middot Edited middot Like middot 1
Mat Boule Hi Vlad I have been known to pick up a DB or two in my youth Ill
address your first concept the mind-muscle connection For the mind-muscle
connection to take place you need an involvement of the frontal lobe (motor
cortex) This is occuring everytime you move a limb In that respect it is not a
bodybuilding concept it is basic neurophysiology The question is not whether the
infraspinatus contributes to the ER fo the shoulder or not The question is that
based on levers and mechanical advantage it contributes far less than the rear
deltoid Thats physics not an opinion Feeling a burning sensation in a specific
muscle the next day can mean the muscle contributed to the effort It does not
stipulate if that muscle was acting as a stabilizer as suggested in the blog or a
mobilizer (the common beliefhellip and I did say belief) I understand that you can
see the infraspinatus and the teres minor The idea was to graphically position
muscles superficial versus deep The superficial ones are more easily spotted
and are further away from the joint axis They are if only for that reason better
mobilizers and will mobilize more any day than the deeper muscles
8 May at 0430 middot Like middot 2
Terry Hughes Ha ha said people would get protective over this
8 May at 0845 middot Like middot 1
Vlad Padina Article with measurement of lever arm and angle of pull for post
delt vs infraspinatus Wheeless Orthopaedics says the IS is the main ext rotator
not the delt
8 May at 0854 middot Edited middot Like
Vlad Padina Mat the concept is that you concentrate on the muscle not the
movement Recent EMG measurements (will post the article today it was written
by Bret Contreras) have shown a great difference in activation when the focus
shifts from the movement to the contraction of the specific muscle
8 May at 0924 middot Like
Mat Boule Wheeless can say what it wants Wheeless could have made a
mistake
8 May at 1338 middot Like middot 1
Posture Pro The rear deltoid actually has a lot more lever arm for ER of
shoulder than infraspinatus A such for rear deltoid to perform in ER you need
the infraspinatus and teres minor to stabilize the joint That being said the deltoid
is a phasic muscle and the infraspinatus and teres minor are tonic The idea of
the blog was to raise awareness as to the fact that these muscles serve
complementary yet different functions
8 May at 1422 middot Like middot 2
Vlad Padina Do you haveare there any articles or studies about the lever arms
of each external rotator
8 May at 1942 middot Like
Mat Boule Have you done dissections Vlad
8 May at 1943 middot Like
Vlad Padina Or the angles of pull pf each Much of the post delts strength will
be wasted due to its line of pull
8 May at 1945 middot Like
Vlad Padina No Mat Why
8 May at 1945 middot Like
Vlad Padina Btw is the surface of the greater tubercle further away from the GH
joints axis than the deltoidal tuberosity
8 May at 1946 middot Edited middot Like
Mat Boule In a dissection you can have a 3D perspective that allows you to
understand fully the point made in the blog
8 May at 1946 middot Like middot 1
Mat Boule The rear deltoid (origin and insertion) sits further away from the GH
join than the infraspinatus or teres minor Since these muscles all perform some
ER the rear deltoid has the greatest lever therefore it has the mechanical
advantage
8 May at 1949 middot Like
Vlad Padina So if the rear delt would insert near the elbow it would have a
greater mechanical advantage
8 May at 1951 middot Like
Mat Boule Vlad I will not be hosting a biomechanics course on this thread If
you have further questions about this issue I invite you to contact Posture Pro
directly Have a great day
8 May at 1952 middot Like
Vlad Padina This iswas my last question Please I am really interested in an
answer even a yesno answer to my last question
8 May at 1953 middot Like
Mat Boule If the rear deltoid attached closer to the elbow that to the deltoid
tuberosity it would indeed have a greater lever length that it already does It
would give it more torque around the GH joint to perform ER of the shoulder
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Posture Pro
6 May
Congratulations to another group of savvy coaches Luke Watson and Terry
Hughes who just completed levels 3 and 4 of PIPP program and our
Advanced Eye Program Great guys and looking forward to seeing them
excel in the industry Our next programs runs in June in Montreal for more
information go to httpwwwposturepronetupcoming-eventsmontreal
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Posture Pro
30 April
Level 3 starts today in Montreal with Luke Watson and Terry Hughes mdash at
Posturepro
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Terry Hughes
29 April
Off to Montreal today
Posture Pro Levels 3 and 4 and Advanced eye movement and vision training
Taking Performance to another level
20 4Like middot Comment middot Share
Posture Pro
27 April
Dont miss out on day three of the woman show sundaymorning results
live womanshowmontreal posturepro mdash with Jackie Kalfayan and Annette
Verpillot at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal - Montreal Convention Center
025
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26 April
Its not too late to get your free assessment with Posturepro Hear what Pam
has to say about it We hope to see you here nomopain pam happy mdash
with Jackie Kalfayan at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal - Montreal
Convention Center
038
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Posture Pro
26 April
Posture Pro
Day two of the Woman Show over 150 postural assessments performed
Donrsquot miss out on your opportunity to find out the link between your posture
and your pain See you there posturepro changinglives nomorepain
painfreeliving fixyourposture posturologyisthefuture mdash with Jackie
7142014 Posture Pro
httpswwwfacebookcomposturepro 1415
Kalfayan and Annette Verpillot at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal - Montreal
Convention Center
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Posture Pro changed her cover photo
26 April
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25 April
Come and see us at the Woman Show at the Palais des Congregraves for a fun
contest and a free Postural Assessment Friday Saturday and Sunday mdash
with Jackie Kalfayan and Annette Verpillot at Palais des congregraves de Montreacuteal
- Montreal Convention Center (5 photos)
9 1Like middot Comment
Posture Pro shared a link
22 April
Can weight lifting fix your posture
7142014 Posture Pro
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Can weight lifting fix your posture
posturologyblogcom
Itrsquos sad to say that many people care more about how they look then how they
function Check out this before and after photo I applaud his success but now after
seeing his transformation photos I can only hope that he notices his poor posture
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26 April
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26 April
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26 April
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26 April
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Itrsquos sad to say that many people care more about how they look then how they
function Check out this before and after photo I applaud his success but now after
seeing his transformation photos I can only hope that he notices his poor posture
His
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