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N48/420 / 26 dekemberi / 2011 weli
2 Sen gaqvs ufleba icode
www.netgazeti.ge
22 dekembers `preskafeSi~ gamarTu-
li diskusiis Tema iyo `miwis refor-
mis Tavisebureba aWaraSi~. arsebuli
mdgomareobis analizi sazogadoebas
Tamaz cincaZem gaacno, romelic ukve
wlebia muSaobs am problemaze. paata
jalaRoniam, aWaraSi saias ofisis xel-
mZRvanelma, ki procesi samarTlebri-
vad Seafasa. diskusias moderatoro-
bas `Tavisufal JurnalistTa saxlis~
Tavmjdomare aslan WaniZe uwevda.
aslan WaniZe: Tema Zalian aqtualu-
ria, radgan danarCeni saqarTvelosgan
gansxvavebiT, aWara erTaderTi regio-
nia, sadac miwis reforma ar ganxor-
cielda. visac dauregistrires miwebi
gonioSi, aRmoCnda, rom Turme ukano-
no yofila da isev ukan waarTves. amas-
Tan, im pirebs, vinc es ukanonoba Cai-
dina, pasuxi aravin mosTxova, moqala-
qeebi ki mniSvnelovnad dazaraldnen.
Tamaz cincaZe: erTi SexedviT Sei-
Zleba vifiqroT, rom es Tema amowuru-
lia, magram ase ar aris. Tu bolo pe-
riodSi momxdar garemoebas gaviTva-
liswinebT, davinaxavT sakiTxis simwva-
ves. miT ufro, rom agraruli qveyana
miwis gareSe araferia.
centralurma xelisuflebam miwis
reforma aWaraSi xelovnurad CaSala.
reforma rom Catarebuliyo, im miwe-
bs, romelic meurneobebs hqondaT ga-
dacemuli, xelisufleba TviTneburad
veRar gankargavda da verc qalaqs ga-
dascemda. jer unda Sesrulebuliyo
kanoni miwis reformis Sesaxeb, rome-
lic 1992 wels iqna miRebuli da misi
moqmedebis vada amoiwura 1998 wels.
aWaraSi reforma orjer CaiSala: as-
lan abaSiZis mmarTvelobis dros da
meored _ moqmedi xelisuflebis dros.
aslan abaSiZem reforma ar Caatara,
radgan Tavis Svils, xelvaCaursa da
qobuleTis raionSi 49 wlis vadiT, Se-
mdgomSi Sesyidvis uflebiT, 3152 he-
qtari miwa gadasca. roca am procesebs
mRelvareba mohyva, politikuri nabi-
jebis gadadgma daiwyo. erT-erTi fa-
qti iyo is, rom 2004 wlis martSi Caqv-
Si ukanonod Casaxlebuli 220 komlis-
Tvis miwebis dakanoneba gadawyvita.
maSin veravin gabeda Tqma, rom es ga-
dawyvetileba iyo ukanono, radgan re-
formis vada amoiwura, anu yvela ga-
dawyvetileba, rac miwas Seexeboda, iq-
neboda ukanono. roca am sakiTxiT da-
vinteresdi, aRmovaCine, rom danarTSi
21 iseTi piri iyo Seyvanili, romlebic
fizikurad ar arsebobdnen.
is, rac 2007 welSi moxda, Zalian
hgavs abaSiZis periodis moqmedebas. am
wels saqarTvelos prezidentma miiRo
gadawyvetileba, TviTneburad dakave-
buli miwebis dakanonebis Sesaxeb, es
pirdapir ukavSirdeba 2008 wlis 5 ian-
vris saprezidento arCevnebs.
yvelaze metad am process xels
vinc uSlida, is saxelmwifo moxelee-
bi iyvnen, romlebic umaRles sabWoSi,
zogic mTavrobaSi isxdnen da makon-
trolebeli funqcia hqondaT. 2004
wlis 21 noembers miRebuli kanoniT,
aWaraSi mcxovreb komlebs, romleb-
sac kanonmdeblobiT dadgenili we-
siT ekuTvnodaT miwis nakveTi, magram
ar flobdnen, kanonmdeblobis Sesaba-
misad, 2006 wlis 31 dekembramde unda
gadascemodaT nakveTebi. miwebis gada-
cemas sxva aranairi sakanonmdeblo ba-
za ar sWirdeboda, Tumca es dokumen-
ti ugulebelyves da reformis proce-
si xelovnurad CaSales. cxadi gaxda,
centralur xelisuflebas mosaxle-
obis konstituciuri uflebis aRsru-
leba ar awyobda, radgan prestiJul
miwebs mis Wkuaze veRar gankargavda.
unda daekisros Tu ara amaze pa-
suxismgebloba vinmes? es sakiTxi au-
cileblad daismeba, radgan arCevnebi
modis da ufro aqtualuri gaxdeba _
adamianebi TavianT uflebas Seaxsene-
ben xelisuflebas... vinc kanoni fexeb-
ze daikida da miwas unebarTvod daepa-
trona, isini prezidentma daakmayofi-
la, xolo patiosani kaci, vinc saxl-
Si ijda da fiqrobda, rom kanonieri
gziT miiRebda sakuTrebis uflebas,
xelcarieli darCa. aseT mdgomare-
obaSi aRmoCnda 5 000-mde ojaxi xelva-
Caursa da qobuleTSi.
1992 wels ministrTa sabWom gamosca
brZaneba saqarTveloSi miwis reformis
ganxorcielebaze. am brZanebiT 1999
wlis 1 ianvramde miwa sakuTrebaSi,
pirvel rigSi, unda gadascemoda 1992
wlis 1 ianvramde warmoSobil komle-
bs, Semdeg unda Seqmniliyo sarezervo
fondebi, raTa amis Semdgom warmoSo-
bili komlebi daekmayofilebinaT. es
kanoni aWaraSi ar Sesrulda.
xelvaCaurSi mcxovrebTa 70 procen-
ti araadgilobrivia, anu 1970 wlidan
da Semdgom periodSi zogi ojaxi ka-
nonierad, zogic ukanonod Camosaxl-
da. isini axla umravlesobas warmoad-
genen, magram yofili mepatronis sin-
droms Cven ver movSliT, anu am ada-
mianebs yovelTvis eqnebaT preten-
zia mamapapiseul miwaze. Tumca yofi-
li saxelmwifo meurneobebsa da sau-
fliswulo mamulebze, romlebic Ta-
vis droze memamuleebma saxelmwifos
miyides, amaze Zveli mepatroneebi pre-
tenzias ver ganacxadeben. Camosaxle-
buli xalxis namravlis uzrunvelyo-
fa swored am miwebis xarjze unda mox-
des. Tumca TviTnebur Casaxlebas kon-
troli sWirdeba.
reforma rom xelovnurad CaiSala,
amis dasamtkiceblad erTi dokumenti
movitane, romelsac xels aweren aWara-
Si reformis sakoordinacio komisiis
Tavmjdomaris moadgile irakli gora-
Ze da miwis marTvis samsaxuris ufrosi,
merab ZirkvaZe. moxsenebiT baraTSi isi-
ni mTavrobis Tavmjdomares weren, rom
reformis gansaxorcieleblad yvela-
feri mzadaa. dokumenti daTariRebu-
lia 2005 wlis 17 dekembriT. arsad we-
ria, rom dafinanseba an sakanonmdeblo
baza ar aris. da amis miuxedavad refor-
ma ar tardeba, rac ukve danaSaulia.
parmen jalaRonia: 1992 wlis minis-
trTa kabinetis dadgenilebiT gani-
sazRvra miwis reforma, magram am dad-
genilebis xarvezi iyo is, rom aikrZa-
la miwis gasxviseba zRvis zolidan 3
da sazRvridan 21 kilometris radius-
Si. am kanoniT upriani iqneboda, so-
felSi mcxovrebi ojaxebisTvis 0,5 he-
qtarze naklebi sameurneo nakveTe-
bi ar gadaecaT, xolo mTaSi mcxovre-
bi ojaxebisTvis aranakleb 1 heqtari-
sa. 1998 welSi gamocemuli brZanebiT,
saxelmwifo uflebas aZlevda TviT-
mmarTvelobas, qoneba saxelmwifo
meurneobebidan gaecaT.
2007 wels kanoniT miwis gadacema iu-
ridiul pirze iyo fasiani, fizikur-
ze _ ufaso. mogvianebiT ki iuridiul
pirs mxolod auqcionis wesiT SeeZlo
miwis yidva. arsebobs kanonproeqti,
romlis mixedviTac 2012 wlidan xel-
vaCaursa da qobuleTSi miwis saku-
TrebaSi gadacema fasiani gaxdeba. 2007
wels miRebuli kanonis Semdeg 120 saq-
mea wasuli sasamarTloSi. yvela saqme-
Si weria, rom ojaxebs aRiarebis komi-
siam jer gadasca miwis nakveTebi, Sem-
deg ki CamoarTva.
levan gobaZe, arasamTavrobo or-
ganizacia `inteleqti~: eg aris poli-
tikur nebasTan dakavSirebuli, rad-
gan asi mowmec rom miuyvano sasamarT-
los, Tu ar aris xelisuflebis neba an
sasamarTlo Tavisufali, Sedegi igi-
ve iqneba.
avTo beriZe, xelvaCauris munici-
palitetis sakrebulos wevri: `me vam-
bob, rom aWaraSi reforma ar Catare-
bula. mosamzadebeli periodi iyo, ma-
gram saqme ar gakeTda. is, rac dRes
xdeba, _ is, rom kaci ukanonod Sei-
Wra miwaze da xelisuflebamac es mi-
wa daukanona _ arc es aris refor-
ma. adamianebs miwa ar gadascemiaT sa-
kuTrebaSi. mTel saqarTveloSi ojax-
ebs miwa gadaecaT ufasod, aWaraSi ki
fuli unda gadaixados glexma. es aris
konstituciuri uflebis Selaxva. Cven
gvyavs beltiylapia xelisufleba,
romelic gviWams miwas.
levan gobaZe: isic gasaTvaliswine-
belia, rom CvenTan ver movSliT yo-
fili mepatronis sindroms. babuas
miwebs xalxi amuSavebs, magram, roca
saqme saqmeze midgeba, is mainc saxelm-
wifos sakuTrebaa. es gamoiwvevs did
socialur ukmayofilebas. am sakiTxe-
bis mogvareba rogor SeiZleba?
Tamaz cincaZe: me saxelmwifo gad-
mosaxedidanac mimuSavia da tradicie-
bic vici, magram konstitucia babuas
miwas ar cnobs. vfiqrob, siebi unda
aRdges da 1992 wlis 1 ianvris kanonm-
deblobiT visac unda gadascemoda mi-
wa zRvruli odenobiT, mas unda gad-
aeces sakuTreba.
suliko miqelaZe: 37-ianebSi adami-
anebs rom qoneba waarTves, amis dab-
runebaze ratom aravin saubrobs?
SoTa zoiZe: me rom rusi generali
viyo da movitano yvela dokumenti mi-
wis sakuTrebaze, damibruneben miwas?
paata jalaRonia: ar var winaaRm-
degi, rom yvelas hqondes sakuTreba-
Si miwa, magram im miwebis sakuTreba-
Si dabrunebaze Tu daviwyeT saubari,
romelic komunistebma CamoarTves
adamianebs, saqarTveloSi albaT ax-
ali revolucia moxdeba, radgan aR-
moCndeba, rom am qveyanaSi yvelaze
meti sakuTrebis mflobeli swored
araqarTvelebi iqnebian, anu eTnikuri
qarTvelebi seriozuli problemeb-
is winaSe dadgebian. ase rom gaakeTon,
pirvel rigSi swored eTnikuri qarT-
veli darCeba miwis sakuTrebis gareSe.
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van monakveTebs movuy-
are Tavi ori dRis ganma-
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Jurnalisti ramdenime dRis
ganmavlobaSi sazogadoebis
sxvadasxva jgufs im mizniT
xvdeboda, rom maTi Sexed-
ulebebi wlis bolo nomer-
Si gamogveqveynebina. mo-
nacemebi, romelic mesame
gverdze ganvaTavseT, bevr-
isTvis SeiZleba miuRebeli
aRmoCndes, magram es mx-
olod da mxolod respon-
dentebis mosazrebaa.
meeqvse gverdis mTavari
Tema sazogadoebis Zalian
did nawils exeba. am gver-
dze ganTavsebuli saukeTe-
so foto mkiTxvelis yura-
dRebas isedac miiqcevs, am-
itom statiis Sinaarsze
arafers vityvi.
am nomerSi kidev bev-
ri saintereso masalaa gan-
Tavsebuli, yvelaze ufro
ki me-4 gverdze gamo-
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Tu gamarTlda, am saaxal-
wlod mTlad optimistur
ganwyobilebas ver Sevinar-
CunebT.
sxva statiebis Sesaxeb Ce-
mi azris gaziarebas ar va-
pireb, win mTeli ori ise-
Ti kvira gvaqvs, rodesac
`baTumelebis~ axal nomers
ver miiRebT, es ki imas niS-
navs, rom yvelafris wakiTx-
vas isedac moaswrebT. da
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ni distributori 2012
wlis 16 ianvramde aRar
mogikakunebT karebze. maS
ase, `gazeT baTumelebis~
momdevno nomeri 2012 wlis
16 ianvars gamova.
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Wdur versias exeba. Cve-
ni urTierToba onlain-
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