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#20 (332) 3 ivnisi, 2015 weli gamodis oTxSabaTs WWW.SAERTOGAZETI.GE fasi 1 lari
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mkiTxvelisTvis-
oTxi dRe `cecxlovan
qveyanaSi~, anu san
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urTierToba imdenad Rrmaa, rom qarTul
presas, romlis didi nawili yviTelia, ar
aqvs imis Sno, maT Soris mtroba gaaRvivos
Sapitos Sou da poroSenkos `paraSa~
saakaSvili imitom
dainiSna am postze, rom
odesa ruseTs Caabaros?
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s o d o m i
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qarTuli diasporis dRes,
27 maiss, Tbilisis ivane java-
xiSvilis saxelobis saxelmwi-
fo universitetSi gaixsna pir-
veli diasporuli profesiuli
forumi „gauziare gamocdileba
samSoblos“. forums daeswrnen
saqarTvelos premier ministri,
Tbilisis meri, saqarTvelos
kaTolikos-ppatriarqi ilia me-
ore, mTavrobis wevrebi da dip-
lomatiuri korpusis warmo-
madgenlebi. forumi irakli Ra-
ribaSvilma gaxsna, romelmac
qveyanaSi ori wlis ganmavloba-
Si ganxorcielebul reformeb-
ze da diasporasTan dakavSire-
bul problematikaze isaubra.
premierma emigrantebs Seaxsena,
rom saqarTveloSi mxolod 3
milion 700 000 qarTveli
darCa da samSobloSi dabrune-
bisken mouwoda. forumis mona-
wileebi daloca da emigran-
tebs samSobloSi male dabru-
neba usurva saqarTvelos kaTo-
likos-ppatriarqma.
Cven SevecadeT gagverkvia,
ra konkretuli Sedegi gamoi-
Ro forumma, ra gamocdileba
gagviziares Cvenma emigrantebma
da rogoria am mimarTulebiT
saxelmwifos samomavlo gegmebi
da diasporis sakiTxebSi sa-
xelmwifo ministris moadgi-
les sandro bregaZes da-
vukavSirdiT:
_ mogexsenebaT, rom foru-
mis ZiriTadi slogani iyo „ga-
uziare gamocdileba samSob-
los“. forumze Camosulebi iy-
vnen samecniero da socialuri
sferos warmomadgenlebi, eko-
nomistebi, inJinrebi, eqimebi,
pedagogebi, anu is adamianebi,
romlebic warmatebulad moR-
vaweoben ucxoeTSi da warmoad-
genen qarTul diasporas evro-
pisa Tu amerikis kontinentis
qveynebSi. forumi dayofili
iyo sxvadasxva panelad, sadac
xdeboda erTgvari gamocdile-
bis gaziareba Tanamemamuleebi-
saTvis. Zalian saintereso iyo
ucxoeTsa da saqarTveloSi
moRvawe Jurnalistebis Sexved-
ra, azrTa gacvla-gamocvla da
gamocdilebis gaziareba. Ziri-
Tadad, es iyo gacnobiTi xasia-
Tis Sexvedra, romelsac, didi
imedi gvaqvs, rom uaxloes xa-
nebSi konkretuli Sedegi mohy-
veba da es Sedegi iqneba sxva-
dasxva sferoebSi moRvawe war-
matebuli qarTvelebis aqtiu-
rad Cabma saqarTvelos poli-
tikur da ekonomikur cxovre-
baSi. vfiqrobT, rom es sakmaod
waadgeba qveynis aRmSeneblobis
saqmes. ra Tqma unda, sami dRis
ganmavlobaSi veranairi sakiTxi
ver gadawydeboda, Tumca, pir-
veli nabijebi gadadgmulia da,
vfiqrob, rom Sedegi aucileb-
lad dadgeba.
_ rogor Sexvdnen emigran-
tebi premieris mowodebas sam-
SobloSi dabrunebaze?
_ ra Tqma unda, saxelmwi-
fos da ToToeuli Cvenganis
survilia, rom ucxoeTSi moR-
vawe qarTvelebi samSoblos da-
ubrundnen, magram amisTvis sa-
Wiroa, rom maT hqondeT is pi-
robebi, romlebic TavianT qve-
yanaSi normaluri cxovrebis
garantias miscems. imis gaTva-
liswinebiT, rom qveyanas 70
wlis manZilze dakarguli
hqonda Tavisufleba da Semde-
gi 20 weli, faqtobrivad,
ngrevis procesi mimdinareobda.
Znelia, erT da or dReSi qar-
Tuli emograciis warmomadgen-
lebs daaxvedro iseTi situa-
cia, rogoric aqvT, magaliTad,
safrangeTSi, avstriaSi, germa-
niaSi, evropis da msoflios
wamyvan qveynebSi. Cveni saminis-
tros egidiT ganxorcielebu-
lia ramdenime proeqti, romel-
mac qveyanaSi emigrantebis mci-
re, magram raRac raodenoba ma-
inc daabruna. Tu iqneba amis
survili, konkretuli proeq-
tebi da SemoTavazebebi, sami-
nistro gaxdeba erTgvari Sua-
mavali Sesabamis uwyebebTan,
imisaTvis, rom emigrantebs mie-
ceT SeRavaTiani pirobebi biz-
nesis samSobloSi sawarmoeb-
lad. Tu romelime warmatebul
eqims an nebismieri sxva sferos
warmomadgenels sa-
qarTveloSi dabru-
nebisa da moRvaweo-
bis survili aqvs,
Cven gavuwevT Sua-
mavlobas Sesabamis
uwyebebTan maTi pro-
fesionalizmis gaT-
valiswinebiT.
_ aseTi SemTxve-
vebi gqoniaT?
_ ramdenime Sem-
Txveva ukve iyo da
moxarulni viqnebiT,
Tu momavalSic iqne-
ba. pirdapir gety-
viT, rom magaliTad,
israelis saxelmwi-
fo aSenda da dRe-
sac Sendeba ucxoeT-
Si moRvawe ebraelebis samSob-
loSi dabrunebis Sedegad, imi-
tom rom, swored maTi dabru-
nebiT moxda Zlieri saxelmwi-
fos Camoyalibeba. Tundac Cveni
mezobeli somxeTis magaliTi
aviRoT, romlis ekonomikis
udidesi nawili mis emigracia-
ze modis. mTelma msofliom
icis, rom somxeTi Tavisi dias-
poriT cxovrobs da grZnobs
mis daxmarebas. samwuxarod,
CvenTan SedarebiT gansxvavebu-
li situaciaa. ar aris saubari
im adamianebze, romlebic ucxo
qveynebSi ojaxis sarCenad ari-
an wasuli, magram cota sawye-
ni da gasakviria, rom saqarTve-
los farglebs gareT myofi mi-
lioneri da miliarderi qarT-
velebi TavianT Tanamemamuleebs
ar exmarebian. am TvalsazrisiT,
somxeTi CvenTan SedarebiT ram-
denime aTeuli nabijiT win
aris, roca procentuli maCve-
nebliT da statistikiT, mi-
lioneri da miliarderi qarT-
velebis raodenoba sazRvarga-
reT samjer da oTxjer aRema-
teba SeZlebuli somexi emig-
rantebis raodenobas. qarTve-
lebi „Sav muSebad“ muSaoben
qveynebSi, sadac aTi da Torme-
ti qarTveli milioneri da mi-
liarderi cxovrobs da maTgan
veranair daxmarebas ver iRebs.
etyoba, Cven erTmaneTis Tanad-
goma gviWirs da ar gvaqvs so-
lidaroba, rac Zalian cudia.
erTi da ori kacis qvelmoqme-
deba ki arafers uSvelis, Tu
es masobrivi ar gaxda. saxelm-
wifos ki ara, im adamianebs da-
exmaron, romlebic sazRvarga-
reT lukmapuris saSovnelad
arian wasulebi. ra Tqma unda,
saministro veravis verafers
daaZalebs. adamians unda esmo-
des, rom Tu samSoblo uyvars,
marto imisTvis ar unda uyvar-
des, rom eklesia aaSenos da iq
misi saxeli da gvari waaweros
da pirovneba warmoaCinos. Tu
samSoblo uyvars, gasaWirSi
myofi TanamoZmec unda uyvardes
da Cven yvelanairad vcdilobT,
rom am mimarTulebiT raRac ga-
vakeToT. vfiqrob, rom qarTve-
li biznesmenebisTvis, romlebic
ucxoeTSi moRvaweoben, misabaZ
magaliTad unda iqcnen somexi
biznesmenebi. Cemi didi survi-
lia, iswavlon maTgan Tu ro-
gor unda sakuTari samSoblos
da xalxis siyvaruli.
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kargi iqneba, rom ucxoeTSi moRvawe
qarTvelma biznesmenebma somexi
biznesmenebisgan iswavlon, rogor unda
sakuTari samSoblos da xalxis siyvaruli
sandro bregaZe:
3#20 (332), 3.VI, 2015 w. saerTo gazeTi
mixeil saakaSvilis odesis
gubernatorad daniSvnis Semdeg
cxadi gaxda Tu ratom datova
`nacmoZraobis~ rigebi misma
oTxma wamyvanma wevrma.
rogorc irkveva, `nacmoZrao-
bis~ elitas winaswar hqonda
dadasturebuli da gadamowmebu-
li informacia imis Sesaxeb,
rom maTi bosi odesis guberna-
torad iniSneboda.
saqmeSi kargad Caxeduli pi-
ris gadmocemiT, `nacionalebis~
im jgufs, romelmac, mogviane-
biT, partiis rigebi datova, ka-
tegoriulad mouTxovia saakaS-
vilisTvis uari eTqva am post-
ze, radgan maTi azriT, saakaSvi-
lis gubernatoroba, faqtobri-
vad, `nacmoZraobis~ srul demo-
ralizacias, SemdgomSi ki mis
daSlas gamoiwvevda, Tumca saa-
kaSvils Tanapartielebis
moTxovnis Sesrulebaze uari
uTqvams, ris Semdegac ganawyene-
bulma oTxeulma `nacmoZraobis~
karebi gamoijaxuna da wamovida.
igive wyaros informaciiT, am
oTxeuls male sxvebic Seemate-
bian da axlo xanebSi `nacmoZra-
oba~, rogorc politikuri or-
ganizacia, aRar iarsebebs.
gadagdebis didostatma saa-
kaSvilma, amjerad, sakuTari
organizacia gadaagdo da isedac
wabarbacebul partias SublSi
sakontrolo tyvia daaxala,
roca odesis gubernatorobaze
dasTanxmda.
cxadia, qarTuli politikis
saWadrako dafaze male didi ga-
dajgufebebi da gadaadgilebebi
daiwyeba da mTavar opoziciur
partiad daniSnuli `nacmoZrao-
bis~ gamoTavisuflebuli adgi-
lis dasakaveblad didi brZole-
bi daiwyeba, Tumca es brZolebi
ra mosatania im brZolebTan Se-
darebiT, rac SeiZleba odesas-
Tan dakavSirebiT daiwyos.
pirvel rigSi, daviwyoT imiT,
rom odesa gansakuTrebuli men-
talitetis qalaqia, romelic
naklebad sarwmunoa, rom saakaS-
vilis xuSturebs Seeguos da
mis Wkuaze gaiaros.
meore, rusebis mier kontro-
lirebad dnesprispireTsa da aw
ukve ruseTis kuTvnil yirims
Sua gakvexebuli odesis ukrai-
nis droSis qveS arsebobas, al-
baT, verc rusebi Seeguebian ase
advilad da yvelafers gaakeTe-
ben imisTvis, rom odesamac yiri-
mis da dnestrispireTis bedi ga-
iziaros, xolo impulsurma da
gauwonasworebelma saakaSvilma
SeiZleba is maprovocirebeli
roli Seasrulos, romelic ru-
seTs sababs miscems gadamwyveti
dartyma ganaxorcielos odesis
xelSi Casagdebad.
ukrainel politikosTa da
eqspertTa erTi nawili didi xa-
nia eWvis TvaliT uyurebs saa-
kaSvilsac da mis megobar poro-
Senkosac da maT ruseTis inte-
resebis gamtarebel agenturad
Tvlis.
saakaSvilis odesis guberna-
torad daniSvnas myisve mohyva
mkacri komentarebi da sagangaSo
gancxadebebi, romelTa saerTo
Sinaarsi aseTia: _ saakaSvili
aucileblad Caabarebs odesas
ruseTs. misi am postze daniSv-
nis mizani swored es aris!
saakaSvilma mSObliuri sa-
qarTvelos teritoriebis 20
procenti ufeSqaSa rusebs da
ukrainelebis odesas, ra Tqma
unda, ufro didi xalisiT da
enTuziazmiT gadascems ruseTs,
Tu manamde odeselebma ar mii-
Res prevenciuli zomebi.
ukrainis margalitad wode-
buli internacionaluri odesa,
ara marto Tavisi unikaluri
mdebareobiT da uniWieresi in-
teligenciiT aris cnobili,
aramed imiTac, rom odesa krimi-
naluri samyaros meqad da medi-
nad iTvleboda da iTvleba dRe-
sac.
ase rom, saakaSvils SeiZleba
Zalian gauWirdes, Tumca kanoni-
er qurdebTan da zogadad, Sav
samyarosTan urTierTobis da
Zmakacobis imxela gamocdileba
aqvs, rom ar aris gamoricxuli,
odesaSic warmatebiT daalagos
`palaJenia~.
asea Tu ise, cxadia, rom ode-
sis gubernatorad Camolaborat-
ebuli saakaSvilis saqarTvelo-
Si politikur figurad dabru-
nebis yovelgvari Sansi amoiwu-
ra, rac imas niSnavs, rom poli-
tikuri organizacia `naciona-
luri moZraobis~ rRvevas da
daSlas veraferi SeaCerebs.
sul male `nacmoZraobaSi~,
SeiZleba, mxolod erT zomaze
moWrili WiaberaSvili da irma
nadiraSvili darCnen, sxvebi ki
politikuri TavSesafrisTvis
sxvadasxva partiebs miadgebian
albaT, an bolo-bolo odesaSi
wavlen da gubernator miSas da-
ugordebian fexebTan.
`Sapitos Sou~, `samarcxvino
maskaradi~, `politikuri Si-
zofrenia~, _ aseTi epiTetebiT
amkoben saakaSvilis gubernato-
rad daniSvnis faqts.
ukrainis ar iyos, Sou da
maskaradi arc saqarTveloSi
gvaklia.
iqauri da aqauri Souebi (ma-
galiTad, Tinas Tavdacvis minis-
troba da miSas gubernatoroba)
ise imeoreben saerTo Strixebs,
rom, SeiZleba, eWvi gagiCndes _
erT eqsperimentul laborato-
riaSi xom ar ibadeba aseTi ara-
ordinaruli gadawyvetilebebi
da erTi pultidan xom ar imar-
Teba bedi qveynebisa da xalxebi-
sa, romlebic TavianTi ubedobiT
da ubedurebiT Zalian hgvanan
erTmaneTs?
giorgi gamezardaSvili
Sapitos Sou da poroSenkos `paraSa~vaxtang xarCilava saakaSvili imitom dainiSna am postze,
rom odesa ruseTs Caabaros?
4 saerTo gazeTi #20 (332), 3.VI, 2015 w.
saarCevno garemos Secv-
lis sakiTxebze prezidentma
margvelaSvilma konferencia
gamarTa. sakiTxTan dakavSi-
rebiT vesaubreT `demokra-
tiuli moZraoba erTiani sa-
qarTvelos~ erT-eerT li-
ders baton giorgi axv-ledians.
_ batono giorgi, saar-
Cevno garemos SecvlasTan
dakavSirebiT ra siaxleebs
unda velodoT, rogoria
prezidentis azri maJorita-
ruli sistemis gauqmebasTan
dakavSirebiT?
_ saqarTveloSi ukve oci
welia, rac arsebobs dRevan-
deli saarCevno sistema, er-
Tmandatiani maJoritaruli
olqebiT, is Seiqmna 1995
wels `moqalaqeTa kavSiris~
mier xaTuna gogoriSvilisa
da mixeil maWavarianis pat-
ronaJiT. praqtikulad is
mosaxerxebeli iyo `moqala-
qeTa kavSirzec~ da Semdgom-
Si `nacionaluri moZraobi-
saTvis~. samwuxaroa, rom is
momgebiani aRmoCnda
`qarTuli ocnebis-
Tvisac~. dRes 77
deputati arCeulia
proporciuli siiT
da 73 maJoritaria.
adre iyo 75-75-ze,
2008 wlis agvis-
tos omis mere Cven
teritoriebi kodo-
ri da axalgori
davkargeT da ami-
tom maJoritari
aris 73 deputati
da proporciul si-
as daemata is 2 ad-
gili da gaxda 77
adgili. es aris
iseTi sistema, ro-
melic yovelTvis xels aZ-
levs arsebul xelisufle-
bas martivad moipovis sapar-
lamento umravlesobaSi ad-
gilebi. SeiZleba gqondes
dabali reitingi, magram ar-
CevnebSi adgilebis umravle-
soba moipovo, praqtikulad
es `nacionalebis~ sistemaa,
romelic xelisuflebaSi
maT arsebobas axangrZliveb-
da. dasavleTis rekomendaci-
ebi am mxriv gveubneba, rom
partia unda iRebdes imden
mandats, ramden procentsac
moipovebs arCevnebSi. es gax-
lavT amomrCevlis motyueba
da erTxel da samudamod un-
da moeRos bolo. am siste-
miT Tu vixelmZRvanelebT,
bolo bolo amomrCeveli
aRar mova arCevnebze, sul
motyuebuli xom ar iqneba?
adgilobriv arCevneb-ze ukve vnaxeT, rom mo-saxleobis didi nawi-li ar mivida saarCev-no yuTTan. ratom? imi-tom, rom maT motyueba
aRar unda. amJamad Cveni
muSaoba swored im kuTxiT
mimdinareobs, rom Sevcva-
loT es sistema. 2012 wlam-
de, me piradad, `qarTuli
ocnebis~ koaliciis warmo-
madgenlebTan erTad vibrZo-
di am sistemis Sesacvlelad
da isinic Zalian aqtiurebi
iyvnen am mxriv. dRes ki, ro-
ca isini xelisuflebaSi
arian ukve, amaze aRar lapa-
rakoben, rac samwuxaroa.
imasac ki amboben zogierTe-
bi, rom es sistema Zalian
kargia, magram 2012 wlamde
ratom iyo is cudi? baton
daviT usufaSvils xeli
aqvs mowerili im memoran-
dumze, sadac maJo-
ritari deputate-
bis gauqmebazea sa-
ubari da sworia es
xedva, Tumca yvela
ase ar fiqrobs. sa-
interesoa is faq-
tic, rom rogorc
ki `nacionalebi~
opoziciaSi aRmoCn-
dnen, isinic ewina-
aRmdegebian dRevan-
del saarCevno sis-
temas, rac Tavad
Seqmnes da iparpa-
Ses wlebis ganmav-
lobaSi. saqme ima-
Sia, rom opozici-
uri mxridan yvela
kargad xedavs Tu ramdenad
usasmarTlo saarCevno sis-
tema gvaqvs, magram `xeli-
suflebis `savarZlidan~ _
es ase ara Cans!
_ ramdeni xania muSaobs
Tqveni jgufi am mimarTule-
biT da ra gakeTda dRemde?
_ ukve 6 Tvea muSaobs
interpartiuli jgufi am
sakiTxebze, Cven SevimuSaveT
varianti, romelic sauke-Tesoa Cvens SemTxveva-Si da mas hqvia samxa-reo proporciulisistema, is gaxlavT saer-
TaSorisod aRiarebuli
standarti da sistema, rom-
lisTvisac mTeli msoflio
rekomendacias gviwevs da is
saukeTesoa Cveni qveynisTvis.
ucxoeTSi mas regionalur
hqvia, magram vinaidan CvenTan
samxareo mowyobis sistema
arsebobs, aq erqmeva samxa-
reo proporciuli sistema
_ SinaarsiT erTi da igivea.
am sistemiT deputatTa naxe-
vars avirCevT proporciuli
sistemiT, xolo meore naxe-
vars samxareo siebiT, anu
calke Telavi, an gurjaani
an WiaTura ki ar airCevs
calke deputats, aramed
mTel mxares eyoleba erTi
deputati, mosaxleobis rao-
denobis mixedviT. axlande-
li sistemiT SeiZleba xu-
Tasma kacma airCios 1 depu-
tati da meore raionSi sami
aTas xuTasmac erTi _ es Se-
usabamobaa da antikonstitu-
ciuria. yvela deputatiarCeuli unda iyos Ta-nabari amomrCevelTaxmis odenobiT _ es ma-Ti konstituciuri uf-lebaa. partiebis mxrivac
ase iqneba, vinc xmebis ram-
den procents moipovebs, im-
den deputats Seiyvans par-
lamentSi, amomrCevelTa ra-
odenobis mixedviT gadana-
wildeba mandatebi da es iq-
neba Tanabroba. am ideis gar-
Semo sruliad SevTanxmdiT
mTeli opoziciuri speqtri,
saparlamentoc da arasapar-
lamentoc da iqneba xmebi
75-75-ze sruli TanabrobiT.
am ideas mxars uWeren ara-
samTavrobo organizaciebic,
aseve eqspertebi.
baton margvelaSvils sa-
kanonmdeblo iniciativis
ufleba ara aqvs, magram am
ideas savsebiT eTanxmeba da
mxars gviWers, amitom gvin-
doda misi CarTva am saqmeSi,
rom politikurad gaaqtiur-
des es Tema da sanam kidev
droa momaval arCevnebamde,
movaxerxoT sistemis Secv-
la. samwuxarod, xelisuf-
lebis warmomadgenlebi am
sakiTxe ar gvelaparakebian,
mxolod kaxa oqriaSvilma,
dmanisis maJoritarma depu-
tatma gamoTqva azri amis
Sesaxeb, sadac ganmarta, rom
mas moswons maJoritari de-
putatoba da mxars ar uWers
Cvens iniciativas. imas, ra-
sac Cven vTavazobT xeli-
suflebas, sWirdeba sakons-
titucio cvlileba, romel-
sac ori sesiis parlamenti
sWirdeba, sagazafxulo da
saSemodgomo amitom dRes
xelisufleba unda gamovides
da Tqvs is, Tu ratom sur-
daT 2012 wlamde saarCevno
garemos Secvla da ratom
ar surT axla? kaxa oqriaS-
vili aris yofili `naciona-
li~, romelic axla `ocneba-
Si~ gadabargda, cxadia, mas
ar endomeba maJoritarobis
gauqmeba, amitom misma komen-
tarma mxolod Rimili gamo-
iwvia damswre sazogadoebaSi
da meti araferi, am sa-
kiTxebSi mas Sesabamisi cod-
na arc gaaCnia.
am konferenciis mTavari
arsi iyo is, rom SevimuSa-
veT Sesabamisi sakonstitu-
cio cvlilebebis paketi, 75-
75-ze da warvadgenT parla-
mentSi. am etapze Zalian se-
riozuli politikuri ber-
keti gvaqvs imisTvis, rom es
saqme bolome miviyvanoT da
Tanabrobis principze age-
bul sistemas daTanxmdes.
Tu amas ar gaakeTeben, seri-
ozul politikur diskom-
forts SevuqmniT _ jerje-
robiT, gvainteresebs Sex-
vedrebi, molaparakebebi da
SeTanxmeba.
eTer kasreliSvili599 110 200
xelisuflebas vTavazobT Tanabrobis
principze agebul saarCevno sistemas, Tu ara
da politikur diskomforts unda elodon
samSobloSi saakaS-
vils cixe elis, amerika-
Si aravin elodeba, ode-
sam ki miuxedavad socia-
lur qselSi dawerili
mimarTvisa-„„me Sen miyvar-
xar, odesa“, Zalian civad
miiRo.
poroSenkom Tavad wa-
radgina axali guberna-
tori, Tumca kievis ga-
dawyvetilebiT ukmayofi-
lo moqalaqeebma adminis-
traciis SenobaSi SeWra
scades, magram isini po-
liciam SeaCera. Semdeg
Senobas policielebma
alya Semoartyes da ax-
los aravis uSvebdnen.
odeselebi mixeil sa-
akaSvils satiruli aqci-
iT daxvdnen-qquCebSi hal-
stuxebi dakides warwe-
riT `Äëÿ Ìèøè~, riTic2008 wlis agvistos omi
gaaxsenes.
odeselebi gaanawyena
kievis gadawyvetilebam.
maTi TqmiT arc aravin
SekiTxviaT, undodaT Tu
ara saakaSvili guberna-
torad, garda amisa, maT
ar moswonT politikosis
odiozuri warsuli. mas
Semdeg, rac dadasturda
saakaSvilis gubernato-
rad daniSvna, odeselebi
internetSic da quCebSic
leonid utiosovis cno-
bil simReras mRerian,
saitebze ki weren:- `Òûîäåññèò, Ìèøêà?~ (Sen
odesidan xar, miSka?)
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5saerTo gazeTi#20 (332), 3.VI, 2015 w.
gvesaubreba eqsperti
kavkasiis sakiTxebSi
mamuka areSiZe:
_ batono mamuka, `nacionalur
moZraobaSi~ arsebuli ganxeTqi-
leba, kvlav aqtualuria. rogor
fiqrobT, ramdenad waadgeba es
procesi qarTul politikas ra
svlebia mosalodneli qarTul
politikur saWadrako dafaze?
_ daviwyoT imiT, rom axla,
yvela partia Tu politikosi ar-
CevnebisTvis emzadeba. arCevnebi,
rogorc Cans, an seriozuli ja-
xis fonze an erTi politikuri
Zalis didi upiratesobiTa da yo-
velgvari konkurenciis gareSe Ca-
tardeba. is, rac `nacmoZraobaSi~
moxda, zustad, am formatSi Seg-
viZlia ganvixiloT.
`nacmoZraobaSi~ ganawyenebuli
arian procesebiT, romlebic maT
partiasTan dakavSirebiT mimdina-
reobs. ramodenime adamiani sapa-
timroSia, partia ki maTi bediT
arc interesdeba. yvelaze mTavari
isaa, rom miSa saakaSvilma ukrai-
naSi axali partiis Camoyalibeba
daiwyo Tavisi mTeli atributiT
da `nacionaluri moZraoba~ aRar
ainteresebs, rac maTTvis serio-
zuli dartymaa. sxvaTa Soris, mi-
xeil saakaSvilma es dRes garkve-
ulwilad, kidec daadastura _
ukrainis moqalaqeoba miiRo da
praqtikulad, uari Tqva, uaxloes
momavalSi, saqarTveloSi poli-
tikur aqtiurobaze. ase, rom si-
tuacia Zalian airia. magram, ro-
gorc Cans, viRac sxvam gadawyvi-
ta, rom am saqmeSi xeli moiTbos.
aSkaraa, `nacionaluri moZraoba~
marTlac daiyofa. viciT, rom ar-
sebobs `iverielTa~ jgufi, rom-
lis garSemoc, garkveuli Zala,
aucileblad Seikribeba. garda
amisa, nu daviviwyebT, rom `nacio-
nalur moZraobaSi~ arsebobs ada-
miani, romelic yvelaze ufro
Wkviania, vgulisxmob, bokerias.
igi aucileblad moindomebs an
`nacionaluri moZraoba~ ganaax-
los an axali partia Seqmnas. mi-
uxedavad imisa, rom bokeria sazo-
gadoebaSi popularuli araa, igi
erTaderTi politikosia vinc amas
SesaniSnavad acnobierebs da ami-
tom kuluarebidan moqmedebs. ar
gamovricxav, rom ganxeTqileba na-
cebSi, garkveulwilad, sxva po-
litikuri Zalis zewoliT, aqti-
urobiTac gaRrmavda. ar mjera,
rom es oTxeuli partiidan fina-
nasuri dainteresebis gareSe wavi-
da. partiidan wasvlis motivi, ra-
zec isini saubroben, sisulelea.
vxedev, rom finansuri daintere-
seba aris da iqneba. unda iTqvas,
rom ganxeTqilebis es formati vi-
Racam sakmaod kargad moifiqra
imitom, rom erTdroulad ori
kurdReli mokla: erTi is, rom
partiis aRmasrulebeli mdivani
gadadga, rac saSineli dartymaa;
meorec _ mixeil saakaSvilis pi-
radi megobari _ goga xaCiZe par-
tiidan gavida. es seriozuli Te-
maa. principSi, situacia romelic
aimRvra, arCevnebamde aRar dalag-
deba _ Seiqmneba axali politiku-
ri Zalebi, aseve, iqneba mcdeloba,
rom didi prodasavluri gaerTia-
neba da amis paralelurad, meore
tradicionalisturi orientaciis
gaerTianeba Seiqmnas, anu qarTul
faseulobebze dayrdnobiT, rome-
lic ruseTis mimarT ufro rbili
iqneba. am wlis ganmavlobaSi ase-
Ti tipis konfiguraciebis Seqmni-
sa da daSlis da Tavidan agebis
momswreni gavxdebiT da saerTod,
politikuri mozaikis gadalageba-
gadmolagebis. ubedureba isaa, rom
politikur mozaikas da politi-
kanobas, samwuxarod, qarTvelebi
miCveulni arian, magram mTavari
saqmis keTebas ver uTmoben imden
dros, ramdensac sakuTar Tavs po-
litikaSi SenarCunebisTvis.
_ finansuri daintereseba ax-
seneT. saubroben, rom am oTxeuls
isev `nacmoZraoba~ daafinansebs.
Tqven, rogor fiqrobT, saidan mo-
dis finansuri daintereseba?
_ maT, `nacionalebi~ ar daex-
marebian. aq, TamaSis elementebia,
rac ase warmomidgenia _ am
oTxeulidan erT-erTi,
SeiZleba, specialu-
rad gadayolili piria
imisTvis, rom ̀ naciona-
lebTan~ kuluaruli
kontaqti ar daikar-
gos. amas ar gamov-
ricxav. `nacionalebis~
finansebs, isini, ver
miiReben imitom, rom,
am kuTxiT, TviTon `na-
cionalur moZraoba-
sac~ uWirs. magram ar-
seboben sxva Zalebi,
ramdenjerme gaiJRera
oqriaSvilis da CoCe-
lis gvarebma, romle-
bic sakmaod SeZlebu-
li adamianebi arian.
Tumca, mainc mgonia, rom mTav-
robis zogierTi warmomadgen-
lis gareSe, es ambavi ar gamo-
vidoda. miveCvieT, rom xan
trabzonSi, xan kievSi, xan ki-
dev sadRac dRevandeli xeli-
suflebisa da opoziciis war-
momadgenlebi erTmaneTs xvde-
bian da qarTveli xalxis
zurgs ukan garkveul molapa-
rakebebs awarmoeben, rac abso-
luturad miuRebelia. am vi-
TarebaSi, saidan modis finan-
sebi, amis Tqma, Znelia. ici
ra, es Cveulebrivma adamianma
arc unda gaigos imitom, rom igi
daiRala. praqtikulad, gaCnda ni-
hilizmi ara dasavleTis, ara ru-
seTis, aramed sakuTari politi-
kuri elitis, politikis mimarT.
qarTveli xalxi Tavisi genetikis,
potenciis TvalsazrisiT, niWie-
ria. miuxedavad imisa, fiqrobs Tu
ara am Temaze, mainc male xvdeba
yvelafers. qarTveli politiko-
sebi angariSs ar uweven imas, rom
saqme sakmaod gonier sazogadoe-
basTan aqvT.
_ am politikur paseansSi sad
aris `qarTuli ocneba~?
_ ar vici. ufro zustad,
`qarTuli ocneba~ sadRac aq aris,
saqarTveloSi, magram rogorc
partia ver Camoyalibda.
partia romelsac parlamen-
tSi da sakrebuloebSi sxva-
dasxva doneze mxolod de-
putacia hyavs da ar aqvs
partiuli rgolebi, partia
araa. `nacmoZraobas~ myari
eleqtorati mainc hyavda da
aqtivistebi raionebSi, ro-
melTa didi nawili Seinar-
Cunes. `qarTulma ocnebam~
ki praqtikulad, Tavisi aq-
tivistebis 60-70% dakarga
imitom, rom es xalxi uyu-
radRebod miatova. meorec,
ar Sesrulda dapirebebi, sa-
marTlianobis aRdgena Tu
sxva ram. umartivesia adami-
ans sakuTari qoneba daubru-
no miTumetes Tu is ekono-
mikis saministros an sxva
uwyebis balanszea, rad unda
amas didi filosofia. adamianebs,
amaSic ki, imedi gaucrues. aq,
elementarulad, laparakia imaze,
rom xalxs warTmeuli mamqanebi
mainc daubrunon. amis precenden-
tis Seqmnac ki ar surT. imitom
ki ara rom ar undaT, aramed eza-
rebaT, amas xom dro, energia,
xalxis siyvaruli sWirdeba.
_ am qaosis, politikuri du-
Rilis fonze `respublikuri par-
tiis~ didi aRzeveba xdeba. ras
niSnavs partiis wevrebis xelov-
nuri dawinaurebebi da ras mou-
tans es qveyanas?
_ `respublikelebi~ miuxeda-
vad Tavisi mcirericxovnebisa, sa-
qarTvelos uaxles istorias Tu
gavixsenebT, yovelTvis wina plan-
ze iyvnen. zviad gamsaxurdias was-
vlis Semdeg, pirveli samxedro
sabWo rom Seiqmna, sias gadavxede,
iq `respublikuri partiis~ yvela
lideria warmodgenili, maT So-
ris, meorexarisxovani liderebic
ki. yovelTvis ase iyo. `respubli-
kur partias~ aqvs Tviseba, yovel-
Tvis movlenebis epicentrSi iyos
_ an opoziciuri an saxelisuf-
lebo mdgomareobiT. ra gamodis?
_ partias aqvs resursi, romel-
sac sworad iyenebs. sxva saqmea is,
rom visac `respublikuri parti-
a~ ar moswons, mis winaaRmdeg,
brZolas ar awarmoebs. marto gi-
nebiT saqme ar keTdeba. maSin Sen
unda gaakeTo ukeTesad is saqme,
vidre `respublikelebi~ akeTeben.
marto feis-buqze da sxva socia-
lur qselebSi Tu iginebi, amiT
`respublikelebs~ erTi bewvic ar
CamouvardebaT. Tu maTi ideolo-
gia ar mogwons, sad aris kontr-
ideologia? ase, rom taqtikuri
TvalsazrisiT, `respublikuri
partia~, yovelTvis reitingulia.
modis arCevnebi. Tu ggoniaT rom
es partia arCevnebSi monawileo-
bas marto miiRebs, Zalian scde-
biT. ase arasdros moqceula da
arc axla moiqceva ase. es, `res-
publikuri partiis~ koziria anu,
eqstremalur situaciaSi mobili-
zeba da yovelTvis saWiro adgi-
las yofna.
_ 2016 wlis arCevnebSi vis-
Tan erTad miiRebs monawileobas?
_ isev `qarTul ocnebasTan~
erTad. eWvi mepareba, gaiqces da
vinme sxvas SeuerTdes. es erTa-
derT SemTxvevaSi SeiZleba mox-
des _ Tu maTi `megobrebi~, dasav-
leTis mxridan, sakiTxs ase dasva-
men. `qarTuli ocnebis~ qudqveS
`respublikelebi~ uaRresad kom-
fortulad arian, ori lideri,
col-qmari sakvanZo figurebia
arian _ parlamentis Tavmjdomare
da Tavdacvis ministri, meti raRa
unda moiTxovon? Tu Zalian moin-
domes, gamoricxuli araa, maT
premieris postic miiRon. aq ima-
ze araa saubari, es kargia Tu cu-
di, imas vambob, rasac vimsaxu-
rebT. viRebT imas, rasac vimsaxu-
rebT. `qarTuli ocnebis~ ZiriTa-
di birTvis xelmZRvanelobam ver
imuSava ise, rom Sedegi hqonodaT.
ori weli gaacdines. ver vityvi
rom gasuli wlis dekembridan
dRemde saqme ar gakeTebula, piri-
qiT, am eqvs TveSi Zalian bevri
ram gakeTda. magram ori weli ras
akeTebdnen, amaze pasuxi, veravin
gamca. vTvli, rom eqvs TveSi ima-
ze meti gaakeTes, vidre mTeli
ori wlis manZilze. magram aris
saqmeebi, rasac ar akeTeben. maga-
liTad, CineTis gansakuTrebuli
dainteresebis gamo unikaluri
Sansi mogveca, saqarTvelos in-
dustrializacia movaxdinoT. Ci-
neTi saqarTveloze ki ar giJdeba,
aramed igi sWirdeba rogorc sam-
xreT-kavkasia _ seriozuli saxme-
leTo xidi evropasTan. anu, sar-
kinigzo xidi, raTa ruseTs seri-
ozuli konkurencia gauwios.
amisTvis, saqarTvelos saocrad
SeRavaTian proeqtebs sTavazobs,
Tan icis saqarTvelos sainJinro
potenciali. gagecinebaT, magram
Cven, jer kidev gvyavs iseTi ada-
mianebi, romelTac SeuZliaT in-
dustriuli qveyana Seqmnan. CineTi
arc Tavis inJiners, arc Tavis mu-
Saxels ar gvTavazobs, aramed
mxolod fuls da imas, rom sa-
qarTvelo gadaiqces qveynad, rome-
lic regionSi, samxreT-kavkasiaSi
industriuli produqciis gayid-
vas SeZlebs. magram qarTveli Ci-
novnikebis biurokratiuli da ga-
ugebari pasiurobis gamo, weli-
wadze metia, es proeqtebi imtve-
reba. Tu es proeqtebi ar Sedga,
CineTi saqarTveloze xels Caiq-
nevs da azerbaijanidan pirdapir
ivaniSvilis da RaribaSvilis
urTierToba imdenad Rrmaa,
rom qarTul presas, romlis
didi nawili yviTelia, ar aqvs imis
Sno, maT Soris mtroba gaaRvivos
mamuka areSiZe:
7 gv.
6 saerTo gazeTi #20 (332), 3.VI, 2015 w.
Sinagan saqmeTa saministros
savaraudo gayofasa da mTavari
prokuroris arCeviTobasTan da-
kavSirebiT gvesaubrebian cnobi-
li uflebadamcveli, advokati
giorgi TevzaZe da polici-
is vice-ppolkovniki daviTgagniZe.
giorgi TevzaZe: `Sinagan
saqmeTa saministros aucileb-
lad unda gamoeyos uSiSroebis
samsaxuri da calke uwyebad Ca-
moyalibdes, radgan erTiani bir-
Tvi orive struqturisTvis xe-
lisSemSlelia da ufro demok-
ratiulic iqneba maTi gancalke-
veba. marTalia, orive struqtu-
ra saxelmwifo interesebs emsa-
xureba, magram maT gansxvavebu-
li datvirTva da funqcia aqvT.
Cemi azriT, Sss-s gamoZiebis
samsaxuric unda gamoeyos, es
samsaxuri arc prokuraturas,
finansTa saministrosa da uSiS-
roebis saministros unda hqon-
des, umjobesia Tu gamoZieba
calke struqturad Camoyalib-
deba da parlaments daeqvemdeba-
reba. gamarTlebulad ar mimaC-
nia, roca erTi uwyeba iWers da
gamoZiebasac TviTon axorcie-
lebs, radgan aq saxezea inte-
resTa konfliqti da sazogado-
ebaSic naklebadaa ndobis faq-
tori. prokuraturas mxolod
zedamxedvelis funqcia unda
hqondes, rac isedacaa misi Ziri-
Tadi valdebuleba, oRond am
zedamxedvelobas formaluri
xasiaTi ar unda hqondes. Sss-s
funqciaSi ki marTlwesrigis
dacva, danaSaulis aRkveTa, ope-
ratiuli saqmianoba unda dar-
Ces. sagamoZiebo samsaxuri SeiZ-
leba departamentad Camoyalib-
des, oRond gafarToebuli, sami-
nistros uflebebiT, miT ume-
tes, rom Cven amis praqtika
gvaqvs. uSiSroebis saministro-
Si SeiZleba darCes garkveuli
danayofebi, radgan arsebobs sa-
idumlo gamoZiebis etapebi, ro-
melic sagamoZiebo uwyebasTan
erTad unda ganaxorcielon.
sxvaTa Soris, sasjelaRsrule-
bis sistemasac aqvs Tavisi saga-
moZiebo samsaxuri, romelic am
sistemis SigniT Cadenil danaSa-
ulobebs iZiebs, magram mainc mi-
maCnia, rom umjobesia am SemTx-
vevaSic damoukidebelma organom
Seiswavlos da gamoiZios.
rac Seexeba mTavari proku-
roris arCeviTobas, me Tu
mkiTxavT, marto prokurorebi
ki ara, mosamarTleebi da poli-
ciis ufrosebic arCeviTi unda
iyos, magram am etapze ganuxor-
cieleblad mimaCnia. kanonproeq-
tis mixedviT, mTavari prokuro-
ris daniSvna saprokuroro sab-
Wos meSveobiT unda ganxorci-
eldes, ufleba-movaleoba am
sabWoze gadanawildeba. am sab-
Wos Tavmjdomare iusticiis mi-
nistri iqneba, sabWos Semadgen-
lobaSi iqneba ori parlamenta-
ri, romlebsac aseve airCeven. iq
aseve Sevlen saganmanaTleblo
dawesebulebebisa da sazogado-
ebrivi organizaciebis (arasam-
Tavrobo seqtori) warmodgeni-
li kandidatebi, aseve ori wev-
ri, romlebic ar ewevian saadvo-
kato saqmianobas. bunebrivad
Cndeba kiTxvebi, saprokuroro
sabWos mier arCeuli mTavari
prokurori damokidebuli
xom ar iqneba xsenebul sab-
Woze? vin airCevs wevr-par-
lamentarebs, isev umravle-
soba xom? ra principiT mox-
deba arasamTavrobo seqtoris
warmomadgenelTa arCeva, eWvi
maqvs, rom aqac igive ganmeor-
deba, rac muSajgufTan dakav-
SirebiT moxda, is kontingen-
ti, romlebic wlebia realu-
rad muSaobs uflebadacviT
sferoSi, xsenebul jgufSi
ar Seiyvanes, miuxedavad imi-
sa, rom Sesabamisi gancxade-
bebi maTi mxridanac gakeTda.
etyoba, is xalxi amoarCies,
vinc ideurad ufro axlos
dgas xelisuflebasTan. Tu
mTavari prokuroris arCeviTo-
baze midga saqme, vfiqrob, ufro
upriani iqneba, rom igi saproku-
roro sabWom ki ar daniSnos,
saqarTvelos prezidentma wa-
radginos misi kandidatura par-
lamentSi dasamtkiceblad. mogv-
wons es Tu ara, giorgi margve-
laSvili xalxis arCeul prezi-
dentad iTvleba da demokratiu-
lic iqneba Tu mTavar proku-
rors is waradgens. prezidentis
uflebebi mkveTrad SeuzRudes
da es erTgvari kompensacia iq-
neba. uzenaesi sasamarTlos Tav-
mjdomaris wardgenasTan dakav-
SirebiT giorgi margvelaS-
vilma Zalze swori nabiji
gadadga da didi imedi maqvs,
rom mTavar prokurorsac
sworad SearCevs~.
Sinagan saqmeTa saminist-
ros dayofasa da gamoZiebis
organos calke struqturad
Camoyalibebas profesionali
samarTaldamcavi daviT gagni-
Zec eTanxmeba, Tumca proku-
raturis reforma, kerZod ki
mTavari prokuroris arCevi-
Toba masSi seriozul eWvebs
iwvevs.
daviT gagniZe: `ra
mniSvneloba aqvs prokurors
airCeven Tu ara, an vis da-
niSnaven, mTavaria, keTili ne-
ba iyos. 90-ian wlebSi, ro-
ca `mxedrioni~ da sxva Seia-
raRebuli dajgufebebi avlag-
meT, policiis mTeli Semadgen-
loba Tavisi xelmZRvanelebianad
igive viyaviT. erT RameSi davas-
ruleT yvelaferi, radgan amisi
keTili neba arsebobda. am are-
ul qveyanaSi, namdvilad ar aris
reformebis dro. prokuraturis
gamomZiebels rogor unda mos-
Txovo saqme bolomde miiyvaneo,
roca mas amisi kvalifikacia ar
aqvs, pirvel rigSi, sakadro po-
litikis gajansaRebaze unda
ifiqron. prokuraturaSi yvela
nacionalebis momxreebi da yaCa-
Rebi ki ar arian, magram gamom-
Ziebeli saqmeze metad imaze fiq-
robs, krediti rogor gadaixa-
dos, reformis Semdeg axali
ufrosi rom mova, vaiTu, ar mo-
vewonoo, am dros ki am axalma
xelmZRvanelma SeiZleba, gamoZi-
ebis anabana ar icodes. analogi-
uri arakompetenturobis maga-
liTia Tavdacvis saministro. ra
kriteriumiT daniSnes Tina xi-
daSeli am uwyebis pirvel pi-
rad? gasagebia, rom ministri
politikuri Tanamdebobaa
da xidaSelic politiku-
ri figuraa, magram mainc
sircxvilad mimaCnia misi
am Tanamdebobaze daniSvna.
dasavleTis qveynebs veto-
lebiT da genderul ba-
lanss vicavT? ra gvegen-
dereba, roca qveyana Tav-
ze gveqceva. Tamar mefis
magaliTs Tu iSvelieben,
is ratom aviwydebaT, rom
mas awyobili qveyana dax-
vda.
Cemi azriT, Sss auci-
leblad unda gaiyos. na-
cionalebma Tavis droze
policia da uSiSroebis
saministro imitom gaaerTianes,
rom msoflio narkomafias erT
kacTan hqonoda saqme. saqarTve-
los teritoriaze marto nar-
kotikebis ki ara iaraRis tran-
zitic xdeboda da erT kacs un-
da gaewia kurireba am `biznese-
bisTvis~, sazRvris dacvis de-
partamentic am mizniT miuerTes
Sss-s, mxolod es iyo realuri
mizezi. kontrdazverva Zalze
specifiuri samsaxuria, igi sa-
qarTvelos teritoriaze Semo-
sul da moqmed jaSuSebs ebrZ-
vis da akavebs, mimaCnia, rom kon-
trdazverva uSiSroebis samsa-
xuris daqvemdebarebidanac unda
gavides da es ukanaskneli un-
da interesdebodes qveynis eko-
nomikiT, ZiriTadi strategiuli
sfero `gadaxuruli~ unda hqon-
des. yvelaze mTavari dRes sava-
luto krizisia, romelmac amaz-
rzeni saxe miiRo, aqedan gamom-
dinare, uSiSroebis samsaxurs
Seswavlili unda hyavdes yvela
banki, rogorc erovnuli banki,
ise komerciuli bankebi, maTi
TiToeuli TanamSromeli, yvela
safinanso operacia (fulis gas-
vla), ratom ar sruldeba
strategiuli mniSvnelobis eko-
nomikuri winadadebebi. ase rom,
xsenebul samsaxurs namdvilad
ar aqvs imis dro, rom qveyanaSi
mzveravebsa da jaSuSebs sdios,
radgan maT garda mravlad
gvyavs `sabotaJnikebi~, diversan-
tebi, moRalateebi. man ekonomi-
kuri sfero unda akontrolos.
bankebi karteluri garigebiT
rom adgenen valutis kurss, sad
aris am dros uSiSroebis samsa-
xuri? ramdeni kargi proeqti
Cavarda, ratom ar dgeba im xal-
xis pasuxismgeblobis sakiTxi,
romlebic qveyanas Rupaven. sava-
luto fondidan Tu msoflio
bankidan miTiTeba rom modis,
risi Sesrulebis safuZvelze
mogvcemen kredits, vinme
swavlobs maT winadade-
bas? SevardnaZis mmarTve-
lobis periodidan moyo-
lebuli 50-55 miliardi
dolaria saqarTvelodan
gatanili. Tu es yvelafe-
ri simarTlea, maSin Sev-
qmnaT raime ekonomikuri
samsaxuri, romelic aseve
calke uwyeba iqneba gaz-
rdili funqciebiT, pir-
dapiri premier-ministrs
daeqvemdebareba da misi
kurirebiT imuSavebs. miv-
ceT am samsaxurs 50-ka-
ciani Stati, aucilebeli
ar aris yvela policie-
li iyos, moviwvioT pro-
fesionali ekonomistebi,
romlebic Tavis varaudsa
da analizs dadeben. TanamSro-
melTaTvis asakobrivi cenzi ar
unda arsebobdes, magram amave
dros iyos axalgazrdebisgan
dakompleqtebuli mobiluri
jgufi, romlebsac gamocdili
da kvalificiuri TanamSromlebi
(igive uSiSroebis samsaxuridan
da policiidan) mimarTulebas
miscemen, ise dayofen operaci-
ebs, rom axalgazrdebi verc ki
mixvdnen ra mizniT agroveben in-
formacias. am 50 kacis Segrove-
ba namdvilad ar gagviWirdeba.
ase gagrZeleba aRar SeiZleba,
mTeli saqarTvelo maTxovrad
aris gadaqceuli, am dros ki ma-
vanT miliardebi aqvT qveynidan
gatanili. Sss-Si, mgoni, kidev
funqcionirebs ekonomikuri da-
naSaulis winaaRmdeg brZolis
samsaxuri, magram dRes iseTi eq-
stremaluri viTarebaa Seqmnili,
rom ar yofnis. garda amisa, xse-
nebuli samsaxuris zemoT dganan
iseTi pirebi, Ss ministrs ar
vgulisxmob, romelTa ndoba ar
SeiZleba, iq iseTi situaciaa,
rom SeiZleba informaciam gaJo-
nos. me Tu mkiTxavT, dRes ise-
Ti viTarebaa, imdeni miTvisebu-
li Tanxebia amosaRebi, rom eko-
nomikuri danaSaulis winaaRmdeg
brZolis samsaxurebi saerTod
unda gavides yvela uwyebidan da
calke struqturad Camoyalib-
des, 3-4 wlis Semdeg, roca
mdgomareoba metnaklebad gamos-
wordeba, SeiZleba saerTod
aRar dagvWirdes es samsaxuri.
marTvis xelovnebis arsi imaSia,
rom rac SeiZleba swrafad un-
da mivides pirveli piris gan-
karguleba bolo rgolamde, e.i.
Sua struqturebi unda Semcir-
des, rom operatiuli, ZviradRi-
rebuli dro ar daikargos. Ss
ministrs uamravi sxva proble-
mac aqvs, yvelafers ver gawvde-
ba, amitom jobia ekonomikuri
samsaxurs pirdapir premier-mi-
nistrTan hqondes urTierToba,
miT umetes, rom batoni irakli,
ramdenadac vici, profesiiT
ekonomistia da ar gauWirdeba
viTarebaSi garkveva. prokuratu-
raSi calke jgufi unda gamoi-
yos, romelic amgvar saqmeebs
zedamxedvelobas gauwevs. adre
iyo prokuraturaSi aseTi samsa-
xuri, magram xom xedavT, isev
reformas apireben da kacma ar
icis, momavalSi ra moxdeba~.
- batono daviT, mTavari
prokuroris arCeviTobasa da
reformasTan dakavSirebiT seri-
ozuli eWvebi gaqvT. iqneb dag-
daviT gagniZe
giorgi TevzaZe
ganaxlebuli uSiSroebis
sabWo, saqarTvelos
prezidents ki ara, premier-
ministrs unda daeqvemdebaros
saqarTvelos prokuratura
7saerTo gazeTi#20 (332), 3.VI, 2015 w.
gava iranSi. am dros Cveni politikosebi
sxva ramiT arian dakavebulni _ vinmem ar
ajobos da Tanamdebobriv skamze ufro win
ar waiwios. Cven, unikalur mdgomareobaSi
vcxovrobT _ unikaluri Cinovnikuri kasta
Seiqmna, romlis didi nawili msoflio Ci-
novnikur elitaSi erTgvari nou-haua. vgu-
lisxmob Semdegs: qarTveli Cinovnike-bi ar iReben qrTams da arafersakeTeben, sxedan kabinetebSi iRebenmaRal xelfass, manqanas, tele-fons, premiebs, magram arafers arakeTeben da Tan arc iparaven, esunikaluria. aseTi ram msoflio-Si ar arsebobs _ an unda iparavde,an saqmes unda akeTebde, an undasaqmes akeTebde da Tan iparavde, anTavi mainc moikali kabinetSi, romxalxma gaigos rom xar.
_ batono mamuka, bolo dros presiT
ucnauri informacia gavrcelda, TiTqos Se-
modgomaze ivaniSvili axal opoziciur par-
tias Seqmnis da RaribaSvilis mTavrobas
daamarcxebs.
_ warmoidgine, gamovides ivaniSvili da
gamoacxados, rom opoziciur partias qmnis.
mTeli `qarTuli ocneba~ RaribaSvilis me-
TaurobiT umal im opoziciur partiaSi aR-
moCndeba, iq Sesvlas erTmaneTs Seaswreben,
vinRa darCeba xelisuflebaSi, ar vici. rac
ar unda gamoacxados ivaniSvilma, yvela mis
gverdiT iqneba. ivaniSvili da `qarTuli
ocneba~ WiplariT arian erTmaneTs gadab-
mulni. mecineba roca amboben, biZina ivaniS-
vili kuluarebidan marTavs xelisufleba-
so. jer erTi, uamravi sxva SemTxveva vici
roca xelisufleba kuluarebidan imarTeba.
miSa singapurze rom giJdeboda, iqac ase
iyo. aSS-s prezidents, xSir SemTxvevaSi,
gadawyvetilebebs msxvili trans-naciona-
luri kompaniebi aRebineben. ki, vTqvaT mar-
Tavs biZina ivaniSvili kuluarebidan, mere
ra? mTavari Sedegia da ara forma. aqve un-
da giTxraT, Cemi informaciiT, RaribaS-
vils ukve orjer aqvs gadadgomaze gancxa-
deba dawerili, magram amis saSualebas ar
aZleven.
_ da mainc, qarTuli presa wylis amR-
vrevas, SuRlis gaRvivebas xom ar cdilobs
axlandel da yofil premiers Soris? es
xom nacebis wisqvilze asxams wyals?
_ qarTul presas ar aqvs imis Sno, iva-
niSvilsa da RaribaSvils Soris mtroba ga-
aRvivos miTumetes, rom premieri amis mi-
zezs ar iZleva. analitikuri, seriozuli
presa, ZiriTadad, 5% gvaqvs, danarCeni yvi-
Teli presaa, romelic sensaciebze, Seumow-
meben ambebzea orientirebuli. RaribaSvi-
lis da ivaniSvilis urTierToba imdenad
Rrmaa, rom presa verafers daaklebs.
_ batono mamuka, vrceldeba informacia
imis Sesaxebac, rom axal politikur Zalas
prezidenti margvelaSvili uxelmZRvane-
lebs.
_ eWvi mepareba. margvelaSvilma, SeiZ-
leba, yvelasTan iTanamSromlos, magram mar-
Tali giTxraT momaval arCevnebSi mas ro-
gorc politikuri organizaciis xelmZRva-
nels, ver vxedav. am etapze, ar mgonia mar-
gvelaSvili romelime politikuri Zalis
xelmZRvanelad, Riad gamoCndes. TviTonac
ar aqvs iseTi mdgomareoba, rom am saqmeSi
gamodges. mis biografiaSi Zalian cudi ro-
li iTamaSa sasaxlesTan dakavSirebulma am-
bavma _ xalxs ar esmis ratom unda Tqvas
adamianma, erTxel, iq fexis Semdgmeli ar
varo da mere, Sevides da iqedan aRar gamo-
vides. sxva sakiTxia, rom amdeni Widaoba,
samarcxvinoa. es jiutoba damRlelia. xal-
xi xedavs rom uamravi problemaa da am
dros mTavroba da prezidenti kinklaobiT
arian dakavebulni. Tundac, is, rom saqarT-
velos sazRvrebi moSiSvlebulia, kanoniT
daculi araa, demarkacia ar arsebobs. uam-
ravi gamowveva da riskia qveynisTvis isla-
muri fundamentalizmidan dawyebuli eko-
katastrofebiT damTavrebuli.
_ rogorc amboben, saakaSvili gaguber-
natorobamde Tavisi nacionaluri gundisgan
saqarTveloSi revoluciis mowyobas iTxov-
da.
_ vici, rom aqtivobebs iTxovda da
brazdeboda amaze, rom amden fuls xarjav-
da da gundi kidev naklebad aqtiurobda.
bolos gamarTul aqciaze, aqaoda miSa un-
da davabrunoTo, magram mitingze 30 kaci
mivida. xalxs, miSas dabrunebaze laparaki,
mobezrda. ici, ra aris? _ xalxs 2007
wlis miSa rom damaxsovreboda, maSin im
dRes aqciaze 10 aTasi da meti kaci iqnebo-
da, magram maT 2008 da 2012 wlis saakaS-
vili axsovT. aqedan gamomdinare, 30 kaci
rom mivida, isic bevria.
_batono mamuka, saubris dasawyisSi ax-
seneT, bokeria an `nacmoZraobas~ ganaaxlebs
an axal partias Seqmniso. dayofis es geg-
ma ramdenad SesaZlebelia masTan kavSirSi
iyos?
_ ar gamovricxav es swored misi geg-
mis nawili iyos. bokeriasgan yvelaferia mo-
salodneli, kargic da cudic. igi Cems xel-
Sia gazrdili, `saRamo mSvidobisa~-Si muSa-
obda da misi gonebis horizonti kargad vi-
ci. samwuxarod, Camoyalibda adamianad, ro-
melmac bevri uaryofiTi ram Caidina. ar ga-
movricxav, mas garkveuli Canafiqrebi, Sors
mimavali gegmebi hqondes, Tan, bevri qarTve-
li politikosisgan gansxvavebiT, strategi-
ulad azrovneba SeuZlia. amitom, ar gamov-
ricxav, es RonisZieba misi momavali moqme-
debis garkveuli fragmenti iyos.
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vikonkretoT, ram gamoiwvia Tqveni un-
dobloba?
- mTavar prokuraturaSi Seqmnes
specialuri departamenti, romelsac
nacionalebis 9-wliani mmarTvelobisas
dazaralebulTa saqmeebi unda gamoeZie-
bina, TiTqos muSaobac daiwyes, magram,
sinamdvileSi, araferi gaukeTebiaT, er-
Ti kaci mainc daakmayofiles? mogexse-
nebaT, 2007 wels damiTxoves Sss-dan,
TiTqos agentze gamovwere fuli da mi-
viTvise. es Tanxa Cemma xelmZRvanelma
gamomawerina da TviTon aiRo, Tumca
misTvis pasuxi aravis mouTxovia. naci-
onalebis mmarTvelobisas prokuratu-
ras mivmarTe, rom es saqme gamoeZiebi-
naT maTi qvemdebare iyo, radgan poli-
cielebs gvexeboda. Cemi werili im ga-
momZiebels gadaugzavnes, romelmac
mxolod erTxel damibara, magram xel-
mZRvanelobam gaafrTxila Tavi daanebeo
da aRar damelaparaka, gaiqca, faqtob-
rivad, ar davukiTxivar. arc xelisuf-
lebis Secvlis Semdeg momxdara raime
sasikeTo Zvra, umZimesi kategoriis dam-
naSaveebi Seiwyales, Tu gaamarTles, ga-
magebinon, ra davaSave iseTi, rom `rea-
bilitacia~ ar mexeba. Zalian kargad
ician, vinc miiTvisa is fuli, magram
dRemde aravin sTxovs pasuxs. xelisuf-
leba rom Seicvala, TviTon damibares
Sss-Si (ministris maSindelma moadgi-
lem aleko tabataZem), TiTqos sistema-
Si unda davebrunebine, testireba gavi-
are, normativebic Cavabare, magram mere
miTxres, moicadeo da dRemde vicdi. Za-
lian minda, es yvelaferi CaweroT, ga-
moZiebasTan viTanamSromle, vuTxari,
rom is Tanxa ar amiRia, isic vuTxari,
vin aiRo da sad wavida, magram ofici-
alur Cvenebas ar marTmeven, ician, iq
bevr sxva raRacas vityvi, rac, rogorc
Cans, ar awyobT. marto Cemze ar aris
saubari, uamravi adamiania igive mdgoma-
reobaSi. axla, roca xsenebulma spec-
departamentma saqmeebis Seswavla da-
iwyo, prokuraturis reforma wamo-
iwyes, sinamdvileSi dros welaven, mere
ityvian ra dros xarvezebis gasworebaa,
arCevnebia kars momdgario.
mTavari prokurori Turme saproku-
roro sabWom unda airCios, sadac wev-
rebad parlamentarebi, arasamTavrobo
organizaciebis warmomadgenlebi, faq-
tobrivad nacionalebis satelitebi iq-
nebian. davarqvaT barem saqarTvelos
arasamTavroboTa respublika, yvela-
fers mainc egeni wyveten. an is parla-
mentarebi vin iqnebian, isev `qarTuli
ocneba~ da nacebi? Tu demokratiulo-
baze aqvT pretenzia, maSin am sabWoSi
arasaparlamento opoziciis is warmo-
madgenlebi Seiyvanon, romlebmac arCev-
nebSi sxvebze meti xmebi daagroves. vi-
meoreb, mTavari reforma ki ara, poli-
tikuri nebaa, nu SezRudaven prokura-
turas, samarTaldamcav struqturebs
da isini TviTon moagvareben problemas,
rogorc es 90-ian wlebSi moxda. mimaC-
nia, rom Sss-s unda gamoeyos gamoZiebis
samsaxuri, magram operatiuli Semadgen-
loba dautovon, romelic mZime katego-
riis danaSaulobebze imuSavebs, maT So-
ris, ra Tqma unda, nacreJimis dros
momxdarzec. gamocdili samarTaldamca-
vebi yovelTvis vambobdiT, rom ar Se-
iZleba gamoZieba awarmoos im uwyebam,
romelmac Caatara operatiuli samuSao.
TviTon rom daiWira da TviTon iZiebs,
swored es aris komunisturi gadmonaS-
Ti. roca erTi adamiani xelmZRvanelobs
gamoZiebasac da operatiul samsaxur-
sac, maSin advilad xdeba, ase vTqvaT,
gatareba, e.w. `patasovka~. gamoZieba
calke uwyeba rom iyos, aseTi ram nak-
lebad SesaZlebelia, konkurenciis pi-
robebSi ufro efeqturi Sedegi dgeba,
amas sakuTari gamocdilebidan geubne-
biT. prokuraturasTan erTad romel
saqmeebzec gvimuSavia operatiul samsa-
xurs, yovelTvis ufro srulyofili
iyo da arc gamoZieba Wianurdeboda. ga-
moZieba yvela uwyebidan unda gavides
da calke struqturad Camoyalibdes,
Tu gvinda, rom realur Sedegs mivaR-
wioT. am uwyebis xelmZRvanelad ki ko-
ba narCemaSvilze ukeTesi kandidatura
namdvilad ar meguleba. minda erT mniS-
vnelovan sakiTxzec gavamaxvilo yu-
radReba, organizebuli danaSaulis
winaaRmdeg brZolis samsaxuri, mgoni,
isev aris Sss-Si, magram es samsaxuri
unda gafarTovdes. 1995 wels, roca
qveyanas sWirdeboda, es samsaxuri de-
partamentis saxiT funqcionirebda, ka-
xa TargamaZe iyo misi xelmZRvaneli, me-
re kriminogenuri viTareba rom dasta-
bilurda, sammarTvelod gadakeTda. ax-
la isev departamentis funqcia unda
mieniWos, kurireba unda gauwios qveda
rgolebs, aiZulos rom imuSaon. Cemi
informaciiT, marto mitingebis dros
(2007-2012 wlebi) 21 Tu 22 adamiania
dakarguli, sad aris es xalxi, vinme
muSaobs am saqmeze, iqneb sulac cocx-
lebi arian. am informaciis sizusteSi
eWvi ar mepareba, radgan xelisuflebis
Secvlis Semdeg Sss-Si muSaoba rom un-
da damewyo, maSin miTxres, am saqmeebze
unda imuSaoo. merwmuneT, bolomde mi-
viyvandi am saqmeebs, axlac SeiZleba
maTze muSaoba da Sedegis dadeba. me ar
viziareb im pozicias, rom sagamoZiebo
organo parlaments daeqvemdebaros, Tu
is gvinda, rom araferi gakeTdes, maSin
gadavceT parlaments, roca bevri ada-
miania makontrolebeli, maSin, rogorc
wesi araferi keTdeba. daiyos Sss, Se-
iqmnas, rogorc giTxariT, axali samsa-
xurebic, magram isini unda daeqvemdeba-
ros uSiSroebis sabWos, magram ara
iseTs, romelic dRes gvaqvs. unda Seiq-
mnas axali uSiSroebis sabWo, romelic
yvela Zalovan (operatiul) Tu sagamo-
Ziebo struqturas gauwevs kurirebas
da kontrols, magram mis xelmZRvane-
lad araviTar SemTxvevaSi ar unda da-
iniSnos irina imerliSvili. es qalba-
toni ki aris generali, aravis vayeneb
Seuracxyofas, magram me ar vici, man ra
damsaxurebisTvis miiRo es wodeba. saa-
kaSvilis reJimis dros zogierTebi la-
mis feldmarSlebic xdebodnen, magram
maTi gakeTebuli saqme aravis unaxavs.
rac yvelaze mTavaria, ganaxlebuli
uSiSroebis sabWo, yvela SemTxvevaSi,
saqarTvelos prezidents ki ara, premi-
er-ministrs unda daeqvemdebaros. qvey-
nis interesebidan gamomdinare, es yve-
laze optimaluri variantia.
manana suxiSvili599 51 28 24
ivaniSvilis da RaribaSvilis
urTierToba imdenad Rrmaa,
rom qarTul presas, romlis
didi nawili yviTelia, ar aqvs imis
Sno, maT Soris mtroba gaaRvivos
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zzee ggaannssxxvvaavveebbuullii SSeexxeedduulleebbii-
ssaaaa aarraassaammTTaavvrroobboo oorrggaanniizzaacciiaa
iiuurriiddiiuull ddaa ffiizziikkuurr ppiirrTTaa
uufflleebbeebbiiss dacva-antiko-rufciuli kavSiris Tav-mjdomare giorgi bur-janaZe. CCiinnuurrii kkoommppaanniiiiss mmiieerr
uuxxaarriissxxoodd CCaattaarreebbuull ssaammuuSSaa-
oossaa ddaa „„hhuuaalliinnggiiss““ mmiieerr „„ggaa-
ddaaggddeebbuull““ qqaarrTTuull kkoommppaanniieebbzzee
ssaauubbrroobbss.. mmiissii TTqqmmiiTT,, ggaaxxSSiirr-
ddaa SSeemmTTxxvveevveebbii,, rrooccaa tteennddee-
rreebbss kkoorruuffcciiuull ggaarriiggeebbeebbSSii
CCaarrTTuullii ddaa uuppaassuuxxiissmmggeebblloo
kkoommppaanniieebbii iiggeebbeenn.. SSeeddeeggaadd vvii-
RReebbTT uuxxaarriissxxoodd aaggeebbuull SSeennoo-
bbaa-nnaaggeebboobbeebbss ddaa uuxxeellffaassoodd
ddaarrCCeenniill,, mmoottyyuueebbuull aaddaammiiaa-
nneebbss,, __ ggaannaaccxxaaddaa ggiioorrggii bbuurr-
jjaannaaZZeemm..
yvelasTvis cnobilia, rom
2015 wlis axalgazrduli
olimpiadisTvis zRvis teri-
toriaze mimdinareobs olimpi-
uri qalaqis mSenebloba. miu-
xedavad imisa, rom Senobebi
STambeWdavad gamoiyureba, ma-
qvs dazustebuli informacia,
rom saamuSaoebi Zalian uxa-
risxod Catarda. faqtia, rom
saqarTveloSi xarisxis kont-
rolis samsaxuris ararsebo-
biT, kargad sargebloben arake-
Tilsindisieri adamianebi da
samSeneblo sferoSi sruli
ganukiTxaobaa. eqspertebisa da
specialistebis SefasebiT,
zRvis mimdebare teritoriaze
aramyari da aseTi masStaburi
proeqtebisTvis sruliad gamo-
udegari niadagebia. aq namdvi-
lad ar iyo rekomendirebuli
mSeneblobis dawyeba, magram
mogexsenebaT, wina xelisufle-
bis dros yvelaferi erTi ada-
mianis muStis dartymiT wyde-
boda. aramyar niadagebs isic
daemata, rom saZirkvelis
gaTxrisas, gruntamde anu
myar fenebamde ar Casulan.
SarSan zafxulSi Zlieri qa-
ris dros, erT erTi mSenebare
saxlis meSvide sarTulis ke-
deli daingra. Senobac vici
romelia, kedelic da mzad var
telekamerebTan erTad mivide
da yvelas vanaxo uxarisxod
aSenebuli kedlebi. sruliad
darwmunebuli var, rom es Se-
noba-nagebobebi ar akmayofi-
lebs aranair samSeneblo nor-
mebsa da standartebs. teqniku-
ri universitetis specialis-
tebi da eqspertebi meubnebian,
qalaqSi iseTi Senoba-nagebobe-
bi Sendeba, rom 30 weliwadSi
Tbilisi avariul qalaqad ga-
mocxaddebao da TbilisSi mim-
dinare samSeneblo bumis Sem-
xedvare, amaSi sruliad darw-
munebuli var.
uuxxaarriissxxoo mmSSeenneebblloo-
bbeebbiiss ggaarrddaa,, ssaaxxeezzeeaa
pprroobblleemmaaTTaa mmTTeellii kkaass-
kkaaddii,, __ aaccxxaaddeebbss bbuurrjjaa-
nnaaZZee.. mmiissii mmoonnaayyoolliiddaann
iirrkkvveevvaa,, rroomm CCiinnuurr kkoomm-
ppaanniiaass rraammddeenniimmee qqaarrTT-
vveell qqvveekkoonnttrraaqqttoorrTTaann
ggaaaaCCnniiaa 66-77 TTvviiss ssaaxxeell-
ffaassoo ddaavvaalliiaanneebbaa.. aannttii-
kkoorruuffcciiuullii kkaavvSSiirriiss
TTaavvmmjjddoommaarree vvaarraauuddoobbss,,
rroomm SSeessrruulleebbuullii ssaammuu-
SSaaooeebbiiss uuxxaarriissxxoobbiiss mmoo-
mmiizzeezzeebbiiTT,, „„hhuuaalliinnggii““
qqvveekkoonnttrraaqqttoorreebbss ffuullss
aaRRaarr ggaaddaauurriiccxxaavvss ddaa
qqaarrTTvveellii mmuuSSeebbii „„ggaaddaagg-
ddeebbuullii““ ddaarrCCeebbiiaann..
yvelas gvsmena Sro-
miTi trefikingis Sesa-
xeb, roca muSaxeli ah-
yavT da mere anazRaurebas ar
aZleven. swored aseT SemTxve-
vasTan gvaqvs saqme Tbilisis
zRvis teritoriaze mimdinare
mSeneblobebze. garkveuli sa-
xis samuSaoebis Sesasruleb-
lad, Cinur kompanias qvekont-
raqtorebad daqiravebuli
hyavs qarTuli Sps-ebi, romel-
Ta umravlesobas 7-8 Tvea,
xelfasebs ar uricxavs. ro-
gorc vici, mSeneblobaze 12
qarTuli kompania muSaobs da
aqedan rvas saxelfaso davali-
aneba gaaCnia. qarTveli muSebi
saSinel mdgomareobaSi arian.
ojaxSi puris fuli ver Se-
aqvT, sabanko valdebulebebs
ver asruleben da aravin icis,
es ramden xans gagrZeldeba.
Cveni informaciiT, axlo mo-
mavalSi, ekonomikis saminist-
ros Sesabamisi samsaxurebi
olimpiur sofelSi miReba-Ca-
barebis procedurebs Caatare-
ben. savaraudod, Senoba-nage-
bobebis mniSvnelovani nawili
moTxovnil standartebs ver
daakmayofilebs. albaT, Cinur
kompaniasac igive molodini
aqvs da xelfasebis gacemis
dros Segnebulad aWianurebs.
rogorc ki problemebi Seiqm-
neba, Cinelebi qarTul kompani-
ebs moubrundeban da etyvian:
Tqveni Sesrulebuli samuSao
standartebs ar akmayofilebs,
msoflioSi reputacia Semila-
xeT da xelfass ar gadagixdi-
To. msgavsi SemTxvevebi bevri
gvqonia. wina xelisuflebis
dros, erT-erTma kompaniam,
romlis saxels amjerad ar
davasaxeleb, daiqirava qvekon-
traqtorebi, qalaqis
erT-erTi kuTxis rea-
bilitaciaze amuSava
da bolos saxelfaso
fondSi 100 000 lari
ar gadauricxa _ mize-
zi Sesrulebuli samu-
Saoebis xarisxi gaxl-
daT. igive kompaniam Wi-
aTuraSi fasadurad ga-
aremonta municipalu-
ri Senobebi da Sesru-
lebuli samuSaoebis
uxarisxobis sababiT,
erT-erT qvekontraq-
tors 20 000 lari ar
gadauricxa. gemaxsov-
rebaT, rogor „Sesa-
niSnavad“ agviSena
Turqulma kompania „aqsmSenma“
iusticiis saxli. igive `aqsu~
muSaobda gldanis cixeSi gay-
vanilobebze. sabolood, Ses-
rulebuli samuSaoebis uxa-
risxobis gamo, `aqsum~ cixeSi
amohyo Tavi, xolo ra daemar-
TebodaT qvekontraqtorebs,
Tavadac mixvdebiT. darwmune-
buli var, rom Tbilisis zRva-
ze momuSave kompaniebis SemTx-
vevaSic igive moxdeba. qarTvel
qvekontraqtorebs vurCev, sa-
nam miReba-Cabarebis aqtamde mi-
sulan, kompaniebs saxelfaso
davalianeba manamde gaastumre-
binon, Torem Cinelebisgan qar-
Tvelebis SromiTi eqspluata-
ciis faqtis winaSe davdgebiT.
yvela moqmedi xelSekrulebis
Tanaxmad, anazRaureba unda
moxdes yoveli Tvis dasawyis-
Si an bolos. rom aRaraferi
vTqvaT komunalur gadasaxadeb-
ze da ojaxur saWiroebebze,
TiToeul Cvengans gaaCnia sa-
banko valdebulebebi, romle-
bic aucileblad yovelTviu-
rad unda daifaros. banks ar
ainteresebs Cinelma ar gadagi-
xada Turqma Tu quTaiselma.
aba, saqarTvelos moqalaqem
moigos CineTSi, an TurqeTSi
tenderi da Cinelebs da Tur-
qebs Tveebis ganmavlobaSi xel-
fasi ar misces, cocxali ver
gamoaswrebs iqidan. Cvens qveya-
naSi Cinelic, Turqic da ira-
nelic imas akeTebs, rasac Ta-
vis qveyanaSi ver gabedavda. yo-
fil Tu amJamindel xelisuf-
lebas araerTxel uTqvams, rom
ucxoelma investorma, pirvel
rigSi, adgilobrivi muSaxeli
unda daasaqmos. dasaqmebiT
asaqmeben, magram roca xelfa-
sis gacemaze midgeba saqme, Ci-
nel muSebs aZleven xelfass
da qarTvels _ ara. iseTi
STaveWdileba mrCeba, rom Ci-
nur kompanias garkveuli Zale-
bi mfarveloben da aguliane-
ben: qarTvelebs sul nu mis-
cemT mag xelfass, uaresebic
mouTmeniaT da autaniaTo.
__ aannttiikkoorruuffcciiuullii kkaavvSSii-
rriiss TTaavvmmjjddoommaarree aaccxxaaddeebbss,,
rroomm oolliimmppiiuurrii ssoofflliiss mmSSee-
nneebblloobbaazzee ddaassaaqqmmeebbuullii CCiinneellee-
bbiiss 3300%% ppaattiimmaarriiaa,, rroommlleebbssaacc
kkoommppaanniiaa iiaaff mmuuSSaaxxeellaadd iiyyee-
nneebbss.. bbuurrjjaannaaZZiiss ggaannmmaarrtteebbiiTT,,
CCiinneellii ppaattiimmrriiss aannaazzRRaauurreebbaa
qqaarrTTvveellii mmuuSSiiss xxeellffaasszzee ggaa-
cciilleebbiiTT mmeettiiaa..
_ CemTvis cnobilia, rom
olimpiuri qalaqis mSeneblo-
bisTvis, Cinurma kompaniam iafi
muSaxelis saxiT Camoiy-
vana patimrebi, romleb-
sac, pirvel etapze,
dReSi 20 dolars ux-
dian. patimrebi vaSlij-
vris dasaxlebaSi mdeba-
re sastumroSi cxovro-
ben da mSeneblobamde av-
tobusiT gadaadgilde-
bian. sapatimro vadis
gasvlis Semdeg (muSao-
bis periodi patimroba-
Si eTvlebaT) gadadian
50 dolarian anazRaure-
baze, zog SemTxvevaSi ki
80 da 100 dolarsac ki
uxdian. igive samuSaoe-
bis SesrulebaSi Cvens
muSaxels 20 lars aZ-
leven da imasac TveobiT
ar uxdian. aravis Seu-
racxyofas ar vayeneb,
magram verc sakuTari qveynis
siyvaruls amikrZalavs vinme,
amitom pirdapir vityvi-roca
Cinel muSas yovelTviurad ma-
Ral xelfass uxdi da adgi-
lobriv muSaxels ufasod amu-
Saveb, amas kriminali da qvey-
nis abuCad agdeba qvia. guli
mwydeba, rom Sesabamisi samsa-
xurebi amaze reagirebas ar ax-
denen. SeiZleba ikiTxoT, sai-
giorgi burjanaZe:giorgi burjanaZe: roca ucxoel muSas
maRal xelfass uxdi da adgilobriv
muSaxels ufasod amuSaveb, amas
kriminali da qveynis abuCad agdeba qvia
vin aris damnaSave _ Cinuri korporacia
`hualingi~ Tu qarTuli Sps-eebi?
giorgi burjanaZe
9saerTo gazeTi#20 (332), 3.VI, 2015 w.
dan vici yvelaferi ase detalurad? saqme
is gaxlavT, rom Cveni organizaciis 12 Ta-
namSromeli Tbilisis zRvaze mimdinare mSe-
neblobaSi dawyebis dRidan monawileobs da
Tavisi TvaliT xedavs, rac iq xdeba. buneb-
rivia, am adamianebis vinaobas ver davasaxe-
leb, Tumca Tu kompanias rame pretenzia ga-
uCndeba, Cemi TanamSromlebi daadastureben,
rom maT ramdenime Tvis xelfasi asaRebi
aqvT. saubris bolos gulistkiviliT gety-
viT, rom saqarTvelo iqca sacdel poligo-
nad, sadac Cinelsac da iranelsac yvelaf-
ris keTebis ufleba aqvs da veravin ubato-
nod xmas ver gascems.
__ aannoonniimmuurroobbiiss ddaaccvviiss ggaarraannttiiiiTT,, „„ssaa-
eerrTToo ggaazzeeTTss““ TTbbiilliissiiss zzRRvviiss „„oolliimmppiiuurrii
qqaallaaqqiiss““ mmSSeenneebblloobbaazzee ddaassaaqqmmeebbuullii aaddggii-
lloobbrriivvii mmuuSSaa eessaauubbrraa.. mmaassTTaann ssaauubbaarrSSii ggaa-
vvaarrkkvviieeTT,, rroomm „„ssxxvvaa ssiikkeeTTeeeebbTTaann““ eerrTTaadd ssaa-
xxeellmmwwiiffoossTTvviiss SSeemmoossaavvlleebbiiss ddaammaallvviiss ffaaqq-
tteebbssaacc aaqqvvss aaddggiillii,, TTuummccaa rrooggoorrcc ssxxvvaa,,
iissee aamm ffaaqqtteebbzzeecc qqaarrTTuullii mmxxaarriiss rreeaaggiirree-
bbaa nnuulliiaa..
_ ver getyviT, mSeneblobaze dasaqmebu-
li Cinelebi patimrebi arian Tu ara, mag-
ram isini rigiTi muSis poziciebze ar mu-
Saoben da ufrosebi arian. Cven CinelebTan
urTierToba ar gvaqvs, magram viciT, rom
Cvenze maRali xelfasebi aqvT. qarTveli
muSis yoveldRiuri anazRaureba 20 la-
ria, magram amasac ver viRebT. iciT, rogo-
raa? Cineli korpuss gasaremonteblad aZ-
levs qarTul Sps-s, romelsac Tavisi bri-
gada hyavs. qarTveli brigadiri Tavis mu-
Sebs xelfass Cinelebisgan Caricxuli Tan-
xidan uxdis, magram korpusis Cabarebis
dro rom movida, Cinelebma Cvens brigadirs
gamoucxades, rom Sesrulebuli samuSao ar
mowonT da xelfass ver gadagvixdian. Cvens
garemontebul korpusebs ar ibareben, mag-
ram imasac ver gveubnebian konkretulad ra
ar mowonT. arc imis uflebas gvaZleven,
rom Tu ar mowonT da ar ibareben, Cveni ga-
remontebuli masala avyaroT da waviRoT.
ar vici, ase rodemde gagrZeldeba.. marto
me, daaxloebiT, 800-900 lari maqvs asaRe-
bi da CemTan erTad biWebi arian, romleb-
sac 1000 da 2000 larze meti aqvT asaRe-
bi.
__ rraattoomm mmooxxddaa ssaaxxeellffaassoo ddaavvaalliiaanneebbiiss
ddaaggrroovveebbaa ddaa xxeellSSeekkrruulleebbiiss ppiirroobbeebbSSii TTuu
eewweerraa,, rroomm SSeessrruulleebbuullii ssaammuuSSaaooss ddaawwuunnee-
bbiiss SSeemmTTxxvveevvaaSSii,, kkoommppaanniiaass uufflleebbaa aaqqvvss ffuu-
llii aarr ggaaddaaggiixxaaddooTT??
_ araviTari xelSekruleba ar arsebobs.
xelSekrulebas ar gvideben, imitom, rom da-
begvra ar gvindao. gveubnebian, rom fuli
Cvens brigadirs unda movTxovoT, magram ra
movTxovoT, roca isic CvensaviT „gadagdebu-
lia“?
rrooggoorrcc mmoossaallooddnneellii iiyyoo,, kkoommppaanniiaa
„„hhuuaalliinngg jjgguuffiiss““ wwaarrmmoommaaddggeennlleebbmmaa aarraassaamm-
TTaavvrroobbooeebbiiss mmiieerr mmoowwooddeebbuullii iinnffoorrmmaacciiaa
aarr ddaaaaddaassttuurreess.. kkoommppaanniiiiss aaddaammiiaannuurrii rree-
ssuurrsseebbiiss mmaarrTTvviiss ggaannyyooffiilleebbiiss uuffrroossmmaa
TTaammaarr ddaanneelliiSSvviilliiss TTqqmmiiTT,, „„hhuuaalliinnggii““
qqvveekkoonnttrraaqqttoorreebbss ffuullss mmxxoolloodd SSeessrruullee-
bbuull ssaammuuSSaaooSSii uuxxddiiss.. bbuunneebbrriivviiaa,, SSeeuussrruu-
lleebbeell ssaammuuSSaaooSSii ffuullss vveerr ggaaddaavviixxddiiTT ddaa
vveerrcc kkoonnttrraaqqttoorreebbiiss ssaaxxeellffaassoo ddaavvaalliiaa-
nneebbeebbzzee vvaaggeebbTT ppaassuuxxss__ggaannaaccxxaaddaa ddaanneelliiSS-
vviillmmaa..
albaT iciT, rom Cveni kompania samSeneb-
lo samuSaoebs uSualod ar awarmoebs da
kontraqti aqvs gaformebuli sxvadasxva
kompaniebTan. Cven maT kontraqtisa da Ses-
rulebuli samuSaos mixedviT vuxdiT gada-
saxads. maT unda Seasrulon garkveuli sa-
muSao da Tanxa mxolod amis Semdeg nazRa-
urdeba. amdenad, maTi pasuxismgeblobaa,
rom TavianT daqiravebulebs xelfasi gada-
uxadon.
__ qqvveekkoonnttrraaqqttoorreebbss TTaannxxaa TTuu aarr CCaauu-
rriiccxxeeTT,, ddaaqqiirraavveebbuull mmuuSSeebbss xxeellffaassss rroo-
ggoorr ggaaddaauuxxddiiaann??
_ Tqven rom daiqiravoT vinme saxlSi
samuSaoebis Casatareblad da ise ar Seas-
rulos, rogorc moTxoveT, fuls gadaux-
diT? maTi valdebuleba kontraqtiT gaTva-
liswinebuli samuSaos Sesrulebaa da Cve-
ni valdebulebaa, rom Tanxa Sesrulebuli
samuSaos mixedviT gadavuxadoT.
__ mmuuSSeebbii,, rroommlleebbmmaacc oolliimmppiiuurrii qqaallaaqqiiss
mmSSeenneebblloobbaazzee kkeeTTiillssiinnddiissiieerraadd iimmuuSSaavveess
ddaa TTaavviiaannTTii vvaallddeebbuulleebbeebbii SSeeaassrruulleess,,
TTaavvss mmoottyyuueebbuullaadd ggrrZZnnoobbeenn ddaa aammaaSSii TTqqvveennss
kkoommppaanniiaass aaddaannaaSSaauulleebbeenn..
_ es Cveni kompaniis problema ar aris.
Cvens valdebulebas, rac kontraqtiT
gvaqvs gaTvaliswinebuli, pirnaTlad vas-
rulebT da namdvilad ar aris Cveni brali
Tu daqiravebuli qvekontraqtori xelfass
ar uxdis Tavis daqiravebul muSebs. Cven
vinc gvyavs kompaniaSi daqiravebuli, yvela
droulad iRebs xelfass, magram rogor
unda gadavixadoT fuli im samuSaoSi, ro-
melic ar Sesrulebula?
SSeessrruulleebbuullii ssaammuuSSaaooeebbiiss uuxxaarriissxxoobbaass
ssrruulliiaadd ggaammoorriiccxxaavvss kkoommppaanniiaa „„hhuuaalliinngg
jjgguuffiiss““ ppiiaarr-mmeenneejjeerrii.. TTiinnaaTTiinn SSiiSSiillaaSS-
vviilliiss TTqqmmiiTT,, kkoorrppuusseebbiiss CCaabbaarreebbiiss pprroocceessii
yyvveellaa wweessiiss ddaaccvviiTT mmiimmddiinnaarreeoobbss ddaa mmeerriiiiss
SSeessaabbaammiiss ssaammssaaxxuurreebbss mmSSeenneebblloobbiiss xxaarriissxx-
TTaann ddaakkaavvSSiirreebbiiTT pprreetteennzziieebbii aarr ggaassCCeenniiaaTT..
meriis zedamxedvelobis samsaxuris mi-
er moxda Cvens mier gadacemuli korpuse-
bis eqspluataciaSi mieba da es procesi
yvela proceduris dacviT mimdinareobs.
Cven gadavcemT merias. isini modian, amowme-
ben da eqspluataciaSi iReben. mSeneblobis
xarisxTan dakavSirebiT, maTi mxridan Se-
niSvnebi ar yofila. procesi jer ar das-
rulebula. korpusebis nawili Cabarebulia,
nawilis Cabareba amJamad mimdinareobs.
„„hhuuaalliinnggiiss““ wwaarrmmoommaaddggeennlleebbTTaann ssaauubb-
rriiss SSeeddeeggaadd SSeeiiZZlleebbaa ddaavvaasskkvvnnaaTT,, rroomm qqaarr-
TTvveellii qqvveekkoonnttrraaqqttoorreebbiiss aarraakkeeTTiillssiinnddii-
ssiieerrii mmuuSSaaoobbiiss mmiiuuxxeeddaavvaadd,, ssaammuuSSaaoo uunnaakk-
lloodd SSeessrruullddaa ddaa mmeerriiiiss SSeessaabbaammiiss ssaammssaa-
xxuurreebbss mmSSeenneebblloobbiiss xxaarriissxxTTaann ddaakkaavvSSiirree-
bbiiTT,, SSeenniiSSvvnneebbii aarr ggaassCCeenniiaaTT.. eess yyvveellaaffeerrii
llooggiikkaaSSii rrooggoorr jjddeebbaa,, CCvveennmmaa mmkkiiTTxxvveellmmaa
ddaa kkiiddeevv iimm ssaaTTaannaaddoo oorrggaannooeebbmmaa ggaannssaajjoonn,,
rroommlleebbiicc,, iimmeeddiiaa,, aann ssaakkiiTTxxiiss SSeesswwaavvlliiTT
aauucciilleebbllaadd ddaaiinntteerreessddeebbiiaann..
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umaduroba adamianis erT-erTi,
rbilad rom vTqvaT, uaryofiTi
Tvisebaa. Tumca xSirad adamiani Ta-
vad verc amCnevs, rom umadurobas
iCens, rac kidev ufro samwuxaroa.
axla vnaxoT, ra mogvitana 2012
wlis 1 oqtombris arCevnebma.
aravin moeloda, rom aseT Rarib
qveyanaSi SesaZlebeli iqneboda jan-
dacvis reformis ase swrafad gan-
xorcieleba. jandacvis sayovelTao
dazRvevis Sedegad saqarTveloSi
sikvdilianoba Semcirda, rasac
TiTqmis yvela aRniSnavs. samagie-
rod, zogierTma daiviwya is dro,
rodesac ufulod eqimsac verc
esalmebodnen. xom aris umaduroba?
an `C~ hepatitis ufasod mkurna-loba msoflios ramden qveyanaSia,
xom ar dagviTvlia? an ra jdeba am
daavadebis mkurnaloba? magram zo-
gierTs ar unda kargis danaxva da
morCa, araferi keTdebao da zogi-
erTi TuTiyuSiviT imeorebs.
produqtze fasebi izrdebao,
Civian. ratom da ra Zvirdeba, ara-
fers amboben. adgilobrivi produq-
cia araTu imatebs, iklebs kidec.
amis gasarkvevad gaiareT, batono,
bazarSi da darwmundebiT. xorci
imaze iafia, vidre `nacmoZraobis~
mmarTvelobis periodSi. diax, gar-
kveuli produqcia Zvirdeba, oRond
isini importulia.
biZina ivaniSvili qveynis ganvi-
TarebisTvis erT-erT mTavar prio-
ritetad soflis meurneobas miiC-
nevda da miiCnevs, amitomac moixna
saqarTveloSi miwebi. axla gavia-
roT Tbilisis quCebSi da vnaxoT,
ramdeni adamiani, romelic soflad
unda muSaobdes, usaqmod dayia-
lobs, an ukeTes SemTxvevaSi, baz-
robaze dgas. vin Seqmnis produqci-
as maT magivrad, isev biZina ivaniS-
vili xom ara? an misi bralia Cve-
ni sizarmace?
biZina ivaniSvilma saqarTvelos
aacila kidev erTi ZmaTa omi, rac
advili SesaZlebelia momxdariyo.
samagierod, `nacmoZraobelebma~ ax-
la enebi gaitlikes da Sanss ar
uSveben xelidan mis saZageblad.
raoden gasaocaric ar unda iyos,
maT mxari sxvadasxva politikurma
partiebmac aubes, Tundac igive
`Tavisufalma demokratebma~, `lei-
boristebma~, Tu sxvebma da sxvebma.
zogs fuli undoda, zogs Tanamde-
boba, zogs orive misca, magram... ai,
es aris umadurobis gamovlineba.
kritika, nebismieri xelisuf-
lebisTvis aucilebelia. mxedvelo-
baSi gvaqvs jansaRi kritika da ara
lanZRva. samwuxaro is aris, rom
mxolod usafuZvlo saubrebi gves-
mis, gamosavals da Wkvianur azrs
iSviaTad gaigonebs adamiani. presa-
televiziebma xom mTlad auria
Tav-gza mosaxleobas. Tumca Cvens
zogierT kolegas daaviwyda is ze-
wola da diqtati, romelsac `nac-
moZraobis~ dros ganvicdidiT. esec
umadurobaa.
rac yvelaze samwuxaroa, uma-
duroba biZina ivaniSvilis mimarT
mis mier xeldasxmulma prezident-
mac gamoiCina. saerTodac saintere-
soa, ra saWiroa Cvens qveyanaSi
prezidentis institutis arseboba,
ra funqcia akisria, gaugebaria. er-
Ti, rac aSkarad Cans, dRes prezi-
denti inglisis dedofaliviT
gvyavs.
nu viqnebiT, batonebo, umadure-
bi. yvelafers Tavisi saxeli davar-
qvaT _ kargs kargi da cuds _ cu-
di. uSecdomo adamiani ar aris qve-
yanaze, magram Secdomaze unda mivu-
TiToT da usafuZvlod ar unda vi-
lanZRebodeT, Torem umaduroba
kargs arafers mogvitans.
`umaduroba ujiSobis aris
niSani~ _ Tqva erTma poetma.
ki magram, Cven, qarTvelebs,
jiSian erad rom mogvaqvs Tavi,
saidan Semogvepara es samarcxvino
bacila?
gia burduli551 71 27 07
`umaduroba ujiSobis
aris niSani...~
ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~
internetSi
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saqarTvelos Crdilo-aR-
mosavleTiT mdebare mxares,
romelsac Turme romaelebi
atropatenas eZaxdnen, xolo
arabebi aderbedagans, Tana-
medroveni ki azerbaijans
uwodeben, pirvelad vestum-
re.
`wiTeli xididan~ azerba-
ijanis dedaqalaqamde xuTi-
eqvsi saaTis savali gzaa.
...rac ufro Sors midixar
saqarTvelodan, miT metad
Sordebi qarTul yofas...
aguriT naSenebi pompezu-
ri saxlebi maRali koSkure-
biT, saxuravebze gvirgvine-
biT. TviT saxlebis umeteso-
ba garedan brWyvialebs, ro-
gorc Cans, sarkeebi daumtv-
reviaT da baTqaSSi Cauyole-
biaT.
gzad gvxvdeba warwerebi:
Saqi. yazaxi, ganja...
baqo. azerbaijanis, ro-
gorc uwodebdnen, `cecxlis
qveynis~ dedaqalaqi, ulamaze-
sia, kekluci azerbaijaneli
qalebiviT mimzidveli da kaS-
kaSa, dRisiTac ki.
quCaSi gamvlelic, Cinov-
nikic da ubralo taqsis
mZRolic kmayofilia, rom
maT qveyanas heidar alievis
vaJi ilham alievi marTavs.
_ giyvarT Tqveni prezi-
denti?
_ SeiZleba is ar giyvar-
des? _ kiTxviT mpasuxoben
baqoelebi.
heidar alievis Zegli,
foto da plakati yvelaze
xSirad mogxvdebaT TvalSi,
mTeli qalaqi am fotoebiTaa
mofenili. azerbaijanelebi
heidar alievs TavianT bela-
dad da winamZRolad miiCneven
da samarTlianadac. misi
mmarTvelobis periodSi aze-
rbaijanma damoukidebloba
moipova da ganviTarebadi de-
mokratiis gzas daadga.
tradiciebis zedmiwevniT
dacvas dRemde cdiloben
TviT dedaqalaqSic ki.
quCebSi Savi hijabiT Semo-
sil qalebsac dainaxavT. uf-
ro Tanamedroved 17-20 wlis
ymawvilebs acviaT. Tanamedro-
veoba ki Semoifargleba gogo-
nebze viwro SarvlebiT da
gaSlili grZeli TmebiT.
azerbaijanis quCebSi arc
erTi qali ar dadis gamomw-
vevad Cacmuli...
sainteresoa da, erTi Se-
xedviT ase Cans, rom azerba-
ijaneli mamakacebi did pa-
tivs scemen TavianT qalebs.
sazogadoebriv transportSi
ar dajdeba arc erTi mama-
kaci, Tu qali fexze dgas.
win ar daudgeba qals, maga-
liTad, maRaziaSi da Tvaleb-
Si umizezod ar Caxedavs...
azerbaijanelebi SesaniS-
navi maspinZlebi arian.
stumars kavkasiuri siamt-
kbilobiT uReben karebs, ra-
Ta GaCvenon, ra Zlieri, la-
mazi da mdidari qveyana aqvT.
cdiloben, dagamaxsovron Ta-
vi, rom yvelgan Tqva: azerba-
ijani aris saxelmwifo, aze-
rbaijanelebi arian eris Svi-
lebi. es asecaa. yvela baqoe-
li azerbaijanis patriotia
da rom ityvian, guliT efe-
reba Tavis samSoblos.
azerbaijani dRes region-
Si umdidresi qveyanaa da ro-
gorc am qveynis prezidentis
mrCevelma qamal abdulammiTxra, es ar aris mxolod
bunebrivi resursebis
damsaxureba.
azerbaijani damou-
kidebel politikas
awarmoebs!..
ar apirebs arc
erT samxedro da po-
litikur aliansSi
gawevrianebas da mso-
flio arenaze damo-
ukidebeli sityvis
Tqmas apirebs.
* * *
5-7 maiss baqos
slavianur iniversitetSi me-
eqvse saerTaSoriso samecnie-
ro konferencia gaimarTa,
romelic heidar alievis 92-
e wlisTavs mieZRvna.
konferenciaSi 19 qveynis
warmomadgenelma miiRos mo-
nawileoba. stumarTa Soris
iyvnen: ruseTis, belarusiis,
bulgareTis, poloneTis, ge-
rmaniis, TurqeTis, ing-
lisis, litvis, italiis,
yirgizeTis, CexeTis, aSS-
is, israelis, Sveciis, eg-
viptis, iranis, yazaxeTis,
niderlandebis warmomad-
genlebi.
azerbaijanuli uni-
versitetebi aqtiurad
iyvnen Cabmulni konferen-
ciaSi. fond `codnis~
warmomadgenlebi, samecni-
ero-kvleviTi instituti
ÍÀÍÀ, baqos saxelmwi-
fo universiteti, azerba-
ijanis saxelmwifo peda-
gogiuri universiteti,
azerbaijanis enebis Semswav-
leli universiteti, teqni-
kuri universiteti, naciona-
luri saaviacio akademia, sa-
xelmwifo ekonomikuri uni-
versiteti, saxelmwifo mar-
Tvis akademia, m. lomonoso-
vis saxelobis saxelmwifo
universitetis baqos filia-
li, azerbaijanis samedicino
universiteti, baqos slavia-
nuri universiteti, turizmi-
sa da menejmentis universi-
teti, nacionaluri konserva-
toria, musikaluri akademia,
sportis akademia, policiis
akademia, baqos evraziis uni-
versiteti, kavkasiuri uni-
versiteti, pedago-
gikis instituti
da misi Samaxiisa
da yazaxis filia-
lebi, sumgaiTis sa-
xelmwifo univer-
siteti, naxCevanis
universiteti, gan-
jis universiteti,
agraruli univer-
siteti, baqoel
qalTa universite-
ti, kooperaciis
universiteti, biz-
nesis umaRlesi
saswavlebeli, is-
lamuri universi-
teti, sxva umaRlesi saswav-
leblebi, agreTve baqos 95-2,
286-e. 301-e saSualo skole-
bi.
TiTqmis mTeli qveyana Ca-
erTo am RonisZiebaSi sruli
mobilizaciiT da pasuxism-
geblobiT...
konferenciis gaxsnis dR-
es, dilidan, konferenciis
monawileebma heidar alievis
saflavi yvavilebiT SevamkeT.
slavianuri universite-
tis foieSi heidar alievis
xsovnis kuTxea, kuTxe ki
ara, darbazi, fotoebiT, uW-
knobi yvavilebis gvirgvine-
biT. iqve xmis gamaZlierebli-
dan ismis azerbaijanis himni,
azerbaijanuli simRerebi da
araviTari inglisuri...
studentebi dganan foieSi
da usmenen...
plakati ki gvamcnobs:
`xalxi, romelsac aqvs maRa-
li kultura, yovelTvis iv-
lis win, icocxlebs da gan-
viTardeba~. _ heidar alievi...
konferencia saxelmwifo
himniT gaixsna.
misasalmebeli sityviT ga-
mosulma akademikosma qa-mal abdulaevma Tqva:
`heidar alievi yovelTvis
Cvens gulebSi iqneba, amis Se-
degia swored es saerTaSori-
so konferencia~.
profesori zaxar zaxa-rievi, bulgareTi: ...Tavi-
suflad SeiZleba iTqvas,
rom baqo erT-erTi yvelaze
lamazi qalaqia msoflioSi,
me Zalian miyvars es qveyana
da amitomac xelidan ar ga-
vuSvi SesaZlebloba davswre-
bodi konferencias. heidar
alievis moRvaweobis Seswav-
la dRes aqtualuria yvela
aspeqtSi, misi memkvidreoba
Zalian sainteresoa, radgan
is iTvleba saxelmwifoebri-
obis namdvil mSeneblad da
es igrZnoba yvelgan _ azer-
baijani viTardeba da is Ta-
vis sityvas Rirseulad ity-
vis msoflio arenaze.
daviT gociriZe, pro-fesori, saqarTvelo: es kon-
ferencia ukve tradiciad iq-
ca... aq Sekrebilni arian
msoflios sxvadasxva qveynis
warmomadgenlebi da yoveli
maTgani azerbaijanul kul-
turas msoflio masStabiT
ganixilavs. es Zalian didi
gamocdilebaa qveynisTvis,
roca SegiZlia sxvisi Tva-
liT Sexedo Sens qveyanas.
einsheut urlike, do-qtori, germania: meorejer
var baqoSi. mixaria, rom am
konferenciaze movxvdi. aqtu-
oTxi dRe `cecxlovan
qveyanaSi~, anu san
seviram, azerbaijan!
konferenciis gaxsna
baqo
qamal abdulaevi
11saerTo gazeTi#20 (332), 3.VI, 2015 w.
alur problemebs ganvixi-
lavT, Sexedulebebs vuzia-
rebT erTmaneTs.
augsburgis universiteti
TanamSromlobs baqos saxelm-
wifo universitetTan. vfiq-
rob, momavalSi es urTier-
Tobebi ufro mWidro gaxdeba.
iolanta zabarskai-te, profesori, litva: Za-
lian momwons baqo, azerbai-
janis mSvenieri dedaqalaqi...
madlobeli var baqos sa-
xelmwifo universitetis,
mogveca saSualeba vimsje-
loT aqtualur sakiTxebze~.
saerTaSoriso urTierTo-
bis fakultetis studenteb-
ma mSvenivrad ician rusuli,
inglisuri, polonuri, Cexu-
ri enebi. ramdenime maTgani
saqarTveloSic aris namyofi
dasasveneblad.
_ borjomi, xaWapuri,
_ amboben da icinian.
me vicnob ilia WavWa-
vaZes, _ ambobs erTi.
saqarTvelo aq yvelas
uyvars. ise laparakoben,
raRac Zalian rom mog-
wons da rom ginda, sul
eferebode... ufrosebi
mowiwebiT laparakoben
qarTvelebsa da saqarTve-
loze, ymawvilebi aRta-
cebiT...
Cveni maspinZeli uni-
versitetSi, istoriis
fakultetis dekani as-ker ahmedia. inteli-
genti azerbaijaneli, moride-
buli, daxvewili. is istori-
kosia, magram kosmopoliti
ar aris, udides pativs
gvcems, namdvili jentlmenia,
oRond azerbaijanis Rirseba
misTvis yvelaferze mniSvne-
lovania, yarabaRis Temaze
msjelobisas vgrZnob, rogor
iZabeba da surs es gancda da-
malos.
saerTod, yarabaRis prob-
lema yvela azerbaijanelSi
udides tkivils iwvevs da
gagrZnobinebs, rom es konf-
liqti mxolod gayinulia da
dro mas odesme aamoqmedebs...
baqoSi warmatebebi aqvT
saqarTvelodan Casul azer-
baijanelebs. gacnobisas pir-
velad imas amboben, rom qar-
Tul miwaze gaizardnen da
enatrebaT aqauroba...
Cvenc gvixaria, rom viRac
mainc afasebs qarTuli miwis
madls...
`me saqarTveloSi daviba-
de, dmanisSi, TbilisSi cxov-
roben Cemi da da Zma, iq dav-
qorwindi, saqarTveloSi dai-
badnen Cemi Svilebi. miyvars
saqarTvelo. yvelani kargad
viyaviT erTmaneTTan _ azer-
baijanelebic, qarTvelebic.
axla xaliCebis mwarmoe-
bel qarxanaSi `azer-ilmeSi~
vmuSaob. Zalian kargi direq-
tori gvyavs. kmayofili
varT...
minda qarTvel xalxs
vuTxra: mogesalmebiT,
gkocniT yvelas! menatre-
biT! _ ambobs suraianorguzova, romelic
baqos xaliCebis qarxana `a-
zer-ilmeSi~ mqsovelad mu-
Saobs.
vidadi muradovi,`azer-iilmes~ generaluri
direqtori: rusulad ar
vilaparakeb. ar miyvars
rusuli ena. me kavkasieli
xalxi miyvars. azerbaija-
nul enaze vilaparakeb da
gadamiTargmnian.
Cems qarxanaSi qsoven
xaliCebs. Cveni saqme ar
aris politika, Cven gvainte-
resebs uZvelesi rewvis kul-
tura da misi gavrceleba. 40
weliwadia xaliCebis saqmes
vswavlob da kavkasiaSi, SeiZ-
leba iTqvas, me var yvelaze
saukeTeso xaliCebis eqsper-
ti.
dRes saqarTveloSi uxa-
risxo, iranidan Camotanili
xaliCebi iyideba, arada, Ta-
vis droze, yvelaze kargi
borCalouri, qvemo qarTlSi
naqsovi xaliCebi iyo.
iq ramdenime azerbaijanu-
li tomi cxovrobs, romle-
bic damaxasiaTebeli ornamen-
tebiT qsoven xaliCebs.
uaxloes xanebSi vapirebT
TbilisSi gavxsnaT xaliCebis
rewvis centri~.
batoni vidadi mura-dovi aRniSnavs, rom saxel-
mwifo yvelanairad exmareba
warmoebis gafarToebas, Seda-
rebiT mcire gadasaxadebi
xels uwyobs xaliCebis war-
moeba azerbaijanis regioneb-
sa da TviT soflebSic ki ga-
Salos.
sainteresoa, rom sorosis
da msgavsi dasavluri fonde-
bi azerbaijanSi fexs ver
ikideben.
centralur gamzirze Sex-
vdebiT uzarmazar feSenebe-
lur Senobebs warweriT _
AZER BANK. ucxouri ban-
kebis wili aq umniSvneloa
da SeiZleba iTqvas, arc aris
warmodgenili.
azerbaijans surs fexi
auwyos Tanamedrove yofas da
amas mSvenivrad axerxebs.
rogorc saqarTveloSi,
azerbaijanSic uamravi ara-
samTavrobo organizaciaa. ma-
galiTad, erT-erTi arasam-
Tavrobo organizaciis `Jur-
nalist qalTa asociaciis~
xelmZRvaneli, Jurnalisti
sevil iusofovaa, rome-
lic aseve azerbaijanel qal-
Ta genderuli Tanasworobis
sakiTxebze muSaobs.
sevil iusufova: `sa-
xelmwifo struqturebsa da
sxva angariSgasawev samsaxu-
rebSi iuristebad, politi-
kosebad, politologebad qa-
lbatonebi arian warmodge-
nilni, magram es arc ise bev-
ria. meti azerbaijaneli
qali unda iRebdes mona-
wileobas qveynis mSeneb-
lobaSi. ufro meti qali
gvsurs iyos azerbaija-
nis parlamentSi _ mil-
li-mejlisSi.
Cveni saqmianobisTvis
grantebs ucxoeTidan ar
viRebT, azerbaijanis xe-
lisufleba gvexmareba.
arasamTavrobo organiza-
ciebs adre hqondaT ucxo-
uri dafinanseba, axla uk-
ve yvelas saxelmwifo uz-
runvelyofs da ucxouri
dafinanseba TiTqmis aRar
aris.
Jurnalistikis ganviTare-
basac xelisufleba uwyobs
xels. 2013 wels 200-mde
Jurnalists, romlebsac mu-
Saobis 10 welze meti gamoc-
dileba da staJi hqondaT, bi-
nebi ufasod dauriges
qalaqis prestiJul ub-
nebSi. es iyo Zalian di-
di saCuqari ilham ali-
evisgan _ garemontebu-
li binebi saxelmwifo
dacviT da a. S. Cveni
prezidenti afasebs
Cvens Sromas.
migvaCnia, rom saku-
Tari qveynis problemebi
TviTon unda gadavwyvi-
toT. ruseTisgan daxma-
reba ar gvWirdeba da
arc araviTar aliansSi
ar gvsurs viyoT ruse-
Tis federaciasTan.
azerbaijani damoukide-
beli saxelmwifoa, mas
damoukidebeli politika
aqvs!~
* * *
oTxi dRe arc ise bevria,
Tumca arc ise cota, rom Se-
afaso da gadaafaso raRac-
raRacebi.
konferencia sruldeba da
Cvenc TbilisSi dabrunebas
vapirebT.
gamosamSvidobebeli saRa-
mo Zalian guliTadia da me-
gobruli. azerbaijanuli qa-
babi, baqlava da xalxuri
simRerebi... qarTvelebis uf-
ro metad gasamxiaruleblad
`Cito-gvritos~ mRerian.
Cvenc vepatiJebiT _ Camo-
diT saqarTveloSi, _ veubne-
biT. qalebs yvavilebs gvCuq-
nian, gvexumrebian da gveubne-
bian: oRond cxare da mware
saWmelebi ar iyos!..
asker ahmedi, romel-
sac baTumSi loriebi hyavs
megobrebi, am zafxuls Camos-
vlas gvpirdeba da saukeTeso
survilebiT gvacilebs.
* * *
saqarTvelos vuaxlovde-
biT.
ai, isev `wiTeli xidi~.
vuRimi Cvens mebaJeebs.
romlebic, samwuxarod, Zali-
an daZabuli, gayinuli mze-
riT gvTxoven piradobis mow-
mobebs.
mikvirs, rom ar iRimebian
azerbaijaneli mebaJeebis ms-
gavsad...
ras izam, albaT, saqme mo-
iTxovs...
sabaJoze mkacri kontro-
lia. CanTas Sesamowmeblad
vawvdi.
_ aqeT mobrZandiT, Tqven,
mgoni, kontrabanda gadagaqvT.
daRlili Zlivs mivlas-
laseb Semowmebis oTaxSi. ik-
ribeba, daaxloebiT, xuTi me-
baJe, alageben Cems nivTebs da
wignis furclebsac ki sa-
guldagulod Slian mkacri
da agdebuli toniT.
procedura naxevar saaTs
grZeldeba.
mebaJe nino gansakuTrebiT
agresiulia da Tumca mSve-
nivrad vici, CanTaSi araviTa-
ri kontrabanda ar midevs,
sakuTar TavSi eWvi mepareba.
Cemo qveyanav, Sens sazia-
nod me sxva qveynidan kenWsac
ar wamoviReb! _ vfiqrob da
guli mwydeba, rom saqarTve-
los sazRvarze mebaJe adami-
anadac ar mTvlis...
_ Caalage! _ mkacrad meub-
nebian da dasZenen: wabrZandiT.
saSinlad daTrgunuli va-
lageb da saqarTvelos miwa-
ze vdgam fexs...
vimedovneb, rom kidev ves-
tumrebi Cvens mezoblebs...
madloba azerbaijanel ma-
spinZlebs, `cecxlovani qvey-
nis~ Svilebs...
san seviram, azerbaijan!
iranda kalandaZe593 56 11 18
baqo _ Tbilisi
5-77 maisi, 2015 w.
asker ahmedi
vidadi muradovi
sevil iusufova
studentebi
12 saerTo gazeTi #20 (332), 3.VI, 2015 w.
„jorjian uoTer end fau-
eriT“ ar davinteresdebodi,
rom ara gaxSirebuli wylis
mowodebis Sewyveta, Tbili-
sis sxvadasxva quCebisTvis,
cxel xazze dakavSirebasac
didi Zalisxmeva sWirdeba. Tu
daukavSirdi iseT pasuxs mii-
RebT, gaocebuli da imedgac-
ruebuli darCebiT. ori quCis
iqiT, dazianebaa da wylis mi-
wodeba amitom Sewydao, SeiZ-
leba 5 quCis dacilebiT iyos
dazianeba da wylis miwodebis
Sewyvetis mizezi gaxdes. ara-
da, aRniSnul kompanias ambi-
cia aqvs, rom saqarTvelos
wyalmomaragebis bazarze wam-
yvani kompaniaa da Tbilisisa
da misi Semogarenis mosaxle-
obas, saxelmwifo organizaci-
ebs, samrewvelo da komerci-
ul obieqtebs maRali xaris-
xis momsaxureobas uwevs. am-
bicia, rom aqvT ra uWirs,
magram ra xdeba sinamdvileSi?
jer kidev 2012 wels „jor-
jian uoTer faueris“ muSao-
biT ukmayofilo adamianebs
feisbuq gverdi SeuqmniaT. aR-
niSnuli kompaniis winaaRmdeg
frTiani frazebi ki uxvad ga-
umetebiaT... feisbuq gverdis
SeqmniT ukmayofilo `jorji-
an uoTer faueris“ kompaniam
„netgazeTs“ ganucxada, rom
yalbi (!) gverdi maT ufle-
bebs laxavs, Tumca amaze rea-
girebis berketi ar gaaCniaT
sainteresoa, mosaxleobis
uflebebis Selaxvaze an ber-
ketebze fiqrobs vinme am qve-
yanaSi? mokled, socialur
qselSi „jorjian uoTer fa-
ueris-maqebari ver movZebne,
maginebeli ki uamravi .„wyali
gamouSviT farCakebo“ _ `aba-
SiZeze talaxi gamouSviT da-
salevad?“ - „jorjian uoTer
end faueri“ - TaRliTi kom-
pania!
„jorjian uoTer end fa-
ueris” mier mosaxleobisTvis
sasmeli wylis gaufrTxileb-
lad gaTiSvebs sistemuri xa-
siaTi aqvs. kompaniis mier fe-
isbukze gamoqveynebuli gan-
cxadebebi imis Taobaze Tu
drois ra monakveTSi SeiZle-
ba Seuwydes an aRudges Tbi-
lisis ama Tu im ubans wyal-
momarageba, umeteswilad ar
Seesabameba simarTles.kompani-
is am gancxadebis miuxedavad
didi diRmis dasaxlebas, 8 ap-
rils wyalmomarageba nacvlad
dilis 10 saaTisa, dilis 6
saaTze Seuwyda da am wuTe-
bamde, dilis 11 saaTi) wyal-
momarageba ar aRmdgara. da es,
ar aris erTeuli SemTxveva.
kompaniis cxeli xazi ki mom-
xmareblisTvis sistematurad
miuwvdomelia. „cxelma xazma
droebiT Sewyvita muSaoba,
radgan aRara aqvT Tqveni gi-
nebis mosmenis Tavi“aseTi
frTiani sityvebi uxvad moi-
Zebneba kompaniis misamarTiT.
maS ase kohabitaciis kidev
erTi faqti. rasakvirvelia
davinteresdi vis ekuTvnoda
aRniSnuli kompania,”saerTa-
Soriso gamWirvaloba_ saqar-
Tvelos“friad saintereso
kvlevebs wavawydi.kompania
„jorjian uoTer end faueri“
britaneTis virjiniis kunZu-
lebze daregistrirebul of-
Sorul subieqts „jorjian
global iuTiliTiz“-s ekuTv-
nis (yofili „multipleqs
enerji limitedi“). Tavad
„jorjian global iuTili-
Tiz“-s ori aqcioneri hyavs
da orive, rogorc irkveva,
fiqtiuri ofSoruli kompa-
niaa. sajaro reestris doku-
mentebSi beneficiari mesakuT-
reebi ar fiqsirdeba,-. kavSi-
rebi rusul kompaniebTan -sa-
qarTvelos sajaro reestris
uaxles CanawerebSi „jorjian
global iuTiliTiz“-is di-
reqtorad sami piri figuri-
rebs: goCa megreliZe, mixail
tuzovi da vladimir kozini.
am ukanasknelis biznes inte-
resebis Sesaxeb informacia
sajaro wyaroebSi ar moipove-
ba, xolo danarCeni ori piri
(goCa megreliZe da mixail
tuzovi) sxvadasxva dros
„inter raos“ Svilobil kom-
paniebSi muSaobda. „inter
rao“ rusuli energo kompa-
niaa, romelic saqarTveloSi
„Telassa“ da kidev sam eleq-
trosadgurs (mtkvari, xrami
1 da xrami 2) flobs. priva-
tizaciisas „inter raos“
warmoSobiT ukraineli biz-
nesmeni andrei rapaporti
marTavda. amJamad rapaporti
anatoli Cubaisis mmarTvelo-
baSi myofi rusuli saxelmwi-
fo kompania rusnano-s aRmas-
rulebeli sabWos Tavmjdo-
maris moadgilea. mas GWP-Tan
kavSiri arasodes daudastu-
rebia, mixail tuzovi andrei
rapaportis didi xnis part-
nioria. ruseTis saialqno
klubis saitze mis Sesaxeb
ganTavsebul informaciaSi mi-
xeil tuzovi ÎÀÎ ÐÀÎ ÅÝÑÐîññèè-s (romelsac refor-
mis Sedegad „inter rao” ga-
moeyo) yofil TanamSromlad
saxeldeba. tuzovi da rapo-
porti ruseTis mier qveynis
eleqtroresursebis marTvis
mizniT Seqmnili saxelmwifo
kompaniis F direqtorTa sab-
Wos wevrebic iyvnen. goCa
megreliZe 2000-2003 wlebSi
saxelmwifo kancelariaSi
fiskaluri politikisa da sa-
gareo ekonomikuri urTier-
Tobebis ganyofilebis ufro-
sad muSaobda, xolo 2004
wels ekonomikis ministris
moadgile iyo. „inter raos“
2007 wlis finansuri aqtive-
bis angariSSi goCa megreliZe
„inter raos“ TurqeTSi moq-
medi erT-erTi Svilobili
kompaniis gamgeobis wevrad
saxeldeba. saocaria rogori
kacTmoyvare da humanuri xe-
lisufleba gvyavs aba miSas
dros gamilionerebul eli-
tarul kriminalebs xom ar
CaaCoCebdnen?“ Cvenebi ariano
da miuSves sabalaxod Tan ra
„Caxutebulebi yoliaT ru-
sebs. ekonomikis yofili mi-
nistri da goCa megreliZis
yofili ufrosi giorgi gaCe-
CilaZe 2014 wlis aprilSi
„jorjian uoTer end faue-
ris“ direqtorad dainiSna.
megreliZe da gaCeCilaZe er-
Toblivad floben Sps „Sar-
deni 11“-s. GWP-is sakuTre-bis Taobaze arsebuli ufro
adreuli kvlevebi gvafiqrebi-
nebs, rom giorgi gaCeCilaZe
da misi biznes partniori le-
van kaWarava aseve iyvnen Car-
Tulni privatizaciaSi: mwvane
alternativis 2010 wlis an-
gariSSi aRniSnulia, rom
mTavrobam SveicariaSi dare-
gistrirebuli subieqti
„multipleqs soluSensi“
privatizaciis procesSi ga-
marjvebulad gamoacxada. kom-
paniam wylis sadistribucio
qselis reabilitaciaSi 350
milioni dolaris investici-
is ganaxorcielebis valdebu-
leba aiRo. organizacia aR-
niSnavda, rom „multipleqs
soluSenss“ saqarTveloSi
daregistrirebuli Svilobi-
li kompania hyavda, romelsac
sxvadasxva dros giorgi gaCe-
CilaZe da levan kaWarava xe-
lmZRvanelobdnen. 2009 wlis
ivlisidan dekembramde kompa-
niis direqtoris movaleobas
soflis meurneobis yofili
ministri Salva fifia asru-
lebda, soflis meurneobis
saministros vebgverdze gan-
Tavsebul mis biografiaSi ki
miTiTebulia, rom 2008-2009
wlebSi fifia MultiplexHolding Group-is finansuri
direqtori iyo. sajaro rees-
tris monacemTa bazaSi arse-
buli privatizaciis xelSek-
rulebidan irkveva, rom GWPSveicarulma „multipleqs
soluSensma“ ki ar iyida, ara-
med britaneTis virjiniis
kunZulebze daregistrire-
bulma „multipleqs enerji
limitedma“. es garemoeba gva-
fiqrebinebs, rom „multip-
leqs soluSensi“ mTavrobam
yuradRebis gadatanis mizniT
gamoiyena, rom SeumCneveli ga-
exada privatizaciis proces-
Si britaneTis virjiniis kun-
Zulebze daregistrirebuli
supieqtis monawileoba. media
saSualebebis cnobiT, „ti-
likas” metsaxeliT cnobili
levan kaWarava „silqroud
jgufis~ ukan mdgomi ZiriTa-
di aqcioneris giorgi ramiS-
vilis megobari iyo. kaWarava
da ramiSvili marTlac arian
biznes partniorebi ramdenime
kompaniaSi, kerZod, „ol si-
zons rizortsSi“ da Sps
k.l.g-Si. imavdroulad isini
ss „sastumro iveriis” (redi-
soni) gamgeobis wevrebic ari-
an. „multipleqs soluSensis“
misamarTi JenevaSi Place de laFusterie 9 –11 (Place de laFusterie 9 – 11) iyo (Sveica-
riis biznes reestrSi Tavda-
pirvelad kompaniis misamar-
Tad es mdebareoba iyo miTi-
Tebuli, Tumca amJamad kompa-
nia aRar iZebneba). „silq ro-
ud jgufis“ saitidan vgebu-
lobT, rom am kompaniasac aqvs
ofisi SveicariaSi, romelic
Silk road Group (Suisse) SA-is
saxeliTaa registrirebuli.
es ofisi imave misamarTze
mdebareobs, romelzec adre
„multipleqs soluSensi“ iyo
registrirebuli, anu: Jeneva,
plas de la fusteri 9 –11.
metic, „multipleqs solu-
Sensac“ da Silk road Group(Suisse) SA-sac erTi da igi-
ve direqtori iorg (Jrg)ioneri hyavdaT. miuxedavad
imisa, rom TavisTavad aRniS-
nuli kompaniis mflobelebis
ofSorSi registracia ar
warmoadgens saqarTvelos ka-
nonmdeblobis darRvevas,
vfiqrobT, rom sazogadoebis-
Tvis saintereso iqneboda
codnoda amgvari strategiu-
li obieqtebis mflobelTa
vinaoba.sainteresoa 350mil-
ioni dolaris invensticia,
romelic wylis sadistribu-
cio qselis reabilitacias
unda moxmareboda vis an ras
moxmarda? - `problemebis aR-
mofxvris mizniT, aucilebe-
lia damatebiT axali milsa-
denebis damontaJeba, radganac
sistemis gaumarTaoba swored
jer kidev sabWoTa kavSiris
dros damontaJebuli milebis
mwyobridan gamosvliT aris
ganpirobebeuli“, – ganacxada
`jorjian uoTer end faue-
ris~ generalurma direqtor-
ma anu ra gamodis, 350 mil-
ioni dolaris invensticiaSi
milebic ar gamoucvliaT?
qeTevan zarnaZe
`wyalSi vdgavar,
cecxli mikidia...~
ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~
internetSi
www.saertogazeti.geSSeemmooggvviieerrTTddiiTT FACEBOOK-zze
13saerTo gazeTi#20 (332), 3.VI, 2015 w.
arkadi mamontovis filmi
`sodomi~ cota xnis win ru-
suli teleeTeriT gavida da
dReisaTvis ukve milionobiT
adamians aqvs nanaxi (sxvadas-
xva enebze Targmnili versie-
bic aris internetSi).
vnaxoT, ra xdeba filmSi,
razea saubari, am SemTxvevaSi
ra saxis `mavneblobis~ `pro-
pagandas~ ewevian rusuli te-
leviziebi?
filmi mkvdari zRvis Cve-
nebiT iwyeba da Tan sdevs
teqsti miTiuri bibliuri qa-
laqebis, sodomisa da gomo-
ris Sesaxeb, sadac garyvni-
leba _ homoseqsualizmi,
lesboseloba da pedofilia,
faqtobrivad, normad iyo
qceuli... mas Semdeg 4 000
weli gavida
amonaridebi:
`mas Semdeg 4 000 weli
gavida, magram sisxlmowyure-
buli demoni axlac nTqavs
axalgazrdebsa da bavSvebs,
xdeba biwierebis kultivire-
ba da iRebs axal saxels _
lgbt...
skot lavli, amerike-
li iuristi, homoseqsuale-
bisTvis #1 mteri aSS-Si,
xsnis rogor aris ganawile-
buli homoseqsualizmis gan-
viTareba-xelSewyobis etape-
bi: _ `es aris xuTi etapi.
yvelaferi iwyeba toleran-
tobidan. rogorc ki geebi sa-
zogadoebisgan toleranto-
bis umaRles damokidebule-
bas miaRweven, iwyeba meore
etapi _ Tanasworoba; mas
mosdevs mesame etapi _aRia-
reba; Semdeg _ CarTva-monawi-
leoba `gei-kulturaSi~ da
bolos, sasjeli, anu unda
daisajos yvela, vinc ar izi-
arebs gei-Sexedulebebs.
yofili sabWoTa kavSiris
respublikebidan ruseTi im-
yofeba yvelaze dabal safe-
xurze, anu rusuli sazoga-
doebisgan jer mxolod to-
lerantobas iTxoven. amitom
aris, rom ruseTSi homoseq-
sualizmis problemas jer
ver xedaven, magram, realu-
rad, problemebi axla iwyeba.
es hgavs marcvals, romelsac
miwaSi agdeb gasaRiveblad _
es aris antidiskriminaciuli
politika, romelsac sworeba
aqvs e.w seqsualur orienta-
ciaze. aSS-Si gei-sazogadoe-
bis kritika ukve danaSau-
lia...
saSualo statistikiT,
amerikeli negatiurad aris
ganwyobili homoseqsualiz-
mis mimarT, magram amis xma-
maRla Tqmis eSinia, radgan
imdenad didia homoseqsuale-
bis raodenoba mTavrobaSi,
rom advilad SeuZliaT rame
dauSavon. Mamerikelebma ici-
an, rom Tu xmamaRla ityvian
imas, rasac fiqroben homo-
seqsualizmis Sesaxeb, mas mo-
Zebnian da mkacrad dasjian.
adamianis uflebaTa damc-
veli organizaciis mTavari
ofisi, HUMAN RIGHTCCAMPAIGN _ es aris orga-
nizacia, romelic homoseqsu-
alizmis yvelaze didi da
amasTanave, mrisxane mxardam-
Weria. mTel msoflioSi irR-
veva adamianTa uflebebi, am-
cireben, devnian, klaven, mag-
ram aRniSnuli organizacia,
nacvlad imisa, rom adamianebs
daexmaron Selaxuli ufle-
bebis aRdgenaSi, mxolod
imisTvis iRvwian, rom `homo-
seqsualizmis programam~ gan-
viTareba hpovos mTel msof-
lioSi...~
londonSi mdebareobs ta-
vistokskis `adamianur orTi-
erTobaTa instituti~. am in-
stitutis TanamSromlebis
saqmianoba mkacrad gasaidum-
loebulia, Tumca mainc gamo-
iZebna adamiani, romelic
mniSvnelovan informac. ias
flobs, _ daniel iestulini,
avtori wignisa `tavistoks-
kis instituti~
daniel iestulini: _
`Tavdapirvelad, es iyo kli-
nika, me-2 msoflio omis Sem-
deg ki gadakeTda institu-
tad. memorandumi xelmoweri-
lia rokfelerebis ojaxsa
da general jon rolings
Soris. xelSekrulebis mi-
xedviT, Tanamedrove sazoga-
doeba unda Seicvalos, sxva
sityvebiT rom vTqvaT, yvela-
feri, rac da rogorc war-
mogvidgenia sazogadoebasTan
dakavSirebiT, unda Seicva-
los. aq iqna gamogonili da
moedo evropas axali kul-
turologiuri aqcentebi,
iseTebi, rogoricaa: Tavisu-
fali siyvaruli, suingerebi,
samoqalaqo qorwineba da a.S
cru-sTan erTad insti-
tutSi SemuSavebuli iqna
programa adamianTa cnobiere-
bis manipulirebisa. proeqte-
bi, romelTa realizeba xdeba
axla, magaliTad, programa _
homoseqsualizmi, Cafiqrebu-
lia ara 5-10 wlis win, ara-
med jer kidev me-2 msoflio
omamde.
Tavdapirvelad umravleso-
ba arian qalebi da kacebi, Sem-
deg iqnebian homoseqsualebi,
transseqsualebi, Semdeg _
transadamianebi da Semdeg uk-
ve postadamianebi... iqnebian
adamiani-robotebi, rogorc
terminatorebi, kiborgebi. iq-
nebian ara 100%-iani adamiane-
bi, aramed sinTetikuri bio-
logiis Sedegebi, radgan dRes
ukve SesaZlebelia adamianis
Seqmna laboratoriaSi ise,
rom aRar aris aucilebeli qa-
lisa da mamakacis bunebrivi
Serwyma. saWiroa arsebis Seqm-
na, rac dadis iqamde, rom ar-
sebas eqneba ara mxolod qali-
sa da mamakacis geni, aramed ki-
dev sami adamianis mdgavsi ar-
sebis, romelsac SeuZlia ada-
mianis mocema. `msoflio eli-
tis~ mizania, rom genetikuri
manipulaciis Sedegad moispos
genetikuri mexsiereba.~
jefri stainbergi,los-anJelesis klinikis (ins-
titutis) mTavari eqimi, ro-
melTac pirvelma SesTavazes
wyvilebs surogatuli dedo-
ba: _ `Cven SegviZlia avirCi-
oT ra sqesis iyos bavSvi. xe-
davT failebs, maTgan cisferi
failebi biWebisaa, vardisfe-
ri _ gogoebis, mwvane _ gene-
tikurad defeqtianebis, dau-
nis sindromis mqoneebis... es
ki spermis konteinerebia. es
gayinuli embrionia _ konte-
inerebi gadavsebulia... gvaqvs
gayinuli sperma da gayinuli
kvercxujredebi, roca maT
vaerTebT, viRebT embrions,
yvela maTgani sxvadasxvaa da
sxvadasxva kategoriis. didi
ambavi Tu bavSvebs arasodes
eyolebaT deda!~
dReisaTvis 2 mln bavSvi
izrdeba erTsqesianTa oja-
xebSi da es mxolod dasawyi-
sia _ cneba dedis nacvlad
gaCnda Semcvleli, biokonte-
ineri...
msoflios yvela qveynis
amerikul saelCoSi aris ins-
truqcia, romelic iZleva in-
strumentebs, rogor unda
Secvalo im qveynis kultura;
ra unda moimoqmedo, rom
Secvalo Rirebulebebis sis-
tema; asea mTel msoflioSi,
ris ukanac Zalian didi fu-
lia, Cveni planetis miliar-
derebis fuli...~
planetaze homoseqsua-
lizmis gavrcelebis ideas
aSS ukve aRar malavs...
iuri roSka, moldovas
yofili vice-premieri, ro-
melmac ukan ar daixia Tavis
qveyanaSi homoseqsualur
lobisTan da amJamad gan-
kicxulia dasavleTeli emis-
rebis mier: _ `rodesac mzad-
deboda gei-paradis Catareba,
movawyve konferencia, sadac
mkveTrad gamovxate Cemi da-
mokidebuleba da protesti.
ar gasula erTi saaTi da
aSS-is saelCodan daireka. me-
ore piri rekavda, qalbatoni
daria feini. man miTxra, ax-
lave midio _ Cemi 25-wliani
moRvaweobis manZilze pirve-
lad iyo, rom aseTi rangis
diplomati imwamsve iTxovda
Sexvedras. Cveni arasasiamov-
no saubari oTx saaTs gagr-
Zelda. es qalbatoni cdilo-
bda moveWkvianebine imiT, ra
aris `dasavluri Rirebule-
bebi~, magram ar gamouvida...
evrokomisrebi, romlebic
CvenTan Camodiodnen, Riad
gveubnebodnen, rom isini mog-
vcemdnen liberalur savizo
reJims, sanacvlod ki Cven
unda migveRo antidiskrimina-
ciuli kanoni. kanoni iTva-
liswinebs, rom aratradici-
uli seqsualuri orientaci-
is adamianebs SeuZliaT imu-
Saon sabavSvo baRebSi, sko-
lebSi, armiaSi, eklesiaSi da
a.S. anu gasagebia, rom `dasav-
leTis elita~ qmnis da aRvi-
vebs Zalian Zlier, mZlavr
Zalas msoflioSi, romlis
msxverpli Tu nawili ukve
gaxda moldova tradiciuli
Rirebulebebis dangrevaSi...~
2011 weli. 6 dekemberi.
vaSingtoni. TeTri saxli.
presmdivnis ofisi. saswra-
fod! gasavrceleblad! muSao-
ba adamianis _ lgbt pirebis
_ uflebaTa dacvisTvis! es
aris msoflio davaleba!
Tbilisi. 2013 weli. gei-
paradis sawinaaRmdego demon-
stracia. aq ar aris dokumen-
tebi da instruqcia, romlis
mixedviTac, mixeil saakaS-
vilma, amerikis marionetma,
gamoiyena 9 wlis ganmavloba-
Si da sastikad dasaja saqar-
Tvelos mosaxleobis 7,5 %
mamakaci...
filmSi naCvenebia gldanis
cixis kadrebi, mis parale-
lurad abu-greibis cixis
kadrebi, romelsac sdevs
teqsti (kadrSi, cixis kame-
rebis fonze mcire ganmarte-
bas iZleva levan gogiCaiSvi-
li): _ `saakaSvilis reJimis
mowinaaRmdegeebze, raTa gae-
texaT maTi neba, Zaladobdnen
maTze. 330 000 adamianma ga-
iara es wameba da yvelaferi
fiqsirdeboda kamerebiT. mi-
zani iyo erTi _ adamiani eq-
ciaT mokankale pirutyvad.
patimris wameba, gaupatiure-
ba _ es meTodika aRebuli
iyo amerikuli cixidan, abu-
greibidan... qarTvelisTvis
aseTi daSveba (gaupatiureb-
g.C) sikvdilis tolfasia...
igive elodeba yvelas ukrai-
naSi... amerikuli xuntis re-
Jimi igive iqneba ukrainis
izolatorebsa da cixeebSi.
axla iq aTasobiT patimaria
kievidan odesamde da ra moe-
liT, mxolod RmerTma icis!..
uflisgan dalocvili qa-
lisa da mamakacis kavSiri iZ-
leva Sanss rom kacobrioba
gadarCes!..~
saSineli realobaa is,
rac mamontovis dokumetur
filmSia naCvenebi, magram es
filmi, albaT, yvelam unda
naxos...
giorgi CxeiZe
s o d o m i
14 saerTo gazeTi #20 (332), 3.VI, 2015 w.
ratomRac yvelas egona, rom
Temis saxeli bia xilis saxel-
wodebisgan modioda. magram uk-
virdaT, rom komSi Tu bia, ro-
gorc mas megrul-imeruli tome-
bi moixseniebdnen, aq arc xarob-
da da arc moipoveboda da amde-
nad, gaugebari iyo, es saxeli
ratom unda darqmeoda am RvTis
sauflo sanaxebs.
Zneli iyo adamisnebisTvis
maT maxsovrobaSi aTaswleule-
bis miRma daleqili movlenebis
mogoneba. Soreul warsulSi ki,
Zalian didi xnis winaT, aq gamo-
iara qalRmerTma biam, romelmac
zevsis davalebiT kavkasionis qe-
dze miajaWva promeTe, miuCina
mas modaraje razmebi da mZime
movaleobis Sesrulebisgan ukan
mobrunebulma, daRlilma daisve-
na zustad iq, sadac odiTgan sa-
locavi _ oxvame iyo agebuli.
aqedan xelisgulze moCanda la-
mazi da Tvaluwvdeneli egrisi,
egrebis qveyana, romelsac Semdeg
kolxeTad moixseniebdnen berZne-
bi. dasvenebis adgils ki Semor-
Ca qalRmerTis saxeli _ bia.
idumalebiT moculma war-
sulma daviwyebis saburveli ga-
daafara momxdars da is daviwye-
bas mieca, saxeli bia ki sauku-
neebs SemorCa qvaSi amokveTil
RvTis wyalobad. dauZinebeli
mtrebi iSviaTad Tu bedavdnen am
viwro da gauvali tyeebiTa da
ekal-bardebiT dafaruli adgi-
lebis gadalaxvas, sadac gaute-
xeli, bedTan Seurigebeli adami-
anebi cxovrobdnen.
saukuneebis ganmavlobaSi
qalRmerTi bia da misi saqme da-
viwyebas mieca, magram adgils,
sofels misi saxeli SerCa.
esec legenda, rasac mosdevs
sinamdvile.
vinc erTxel naxa, ra daa-
viwyebs mas zemo biis mTavarange-
lozis eklesias _ saydars, ax-
la oxvames _ salocavs rom
uwodebs mrevli. kolxeTsa da
kavkasions Soris, urTas mTis
gagrZelebaze, yvelaze maRal
gorze rom wamomarTula lamaz
gvirgvinad. saTuTad uvlida da
mokrZalebiT miapyrobda imedian
mzeras mas mrevli _ aleqsand-
riebi da abSilavebi, xarebavebi
da gvaliebi, lipartiebi da qo-
raiebi, Raduebi da belqaniebi,
iosavebi da Soniebi.
baridan gza xobisa da noji-
xis gagrZelebaze, RarRulas
viwroebidan mTavarangelozis
mTis _ oxvames ferdis gverdis
avliT, zemo biidan bia saSonio-
Si eSveboda, saidanac gadalaxav-
da xobis wyals da xibulas gav-
liT zemo mTis samegreloSi _
lakadaSi gadadioda.
zemo bia da bia saSonio iyo
gzis Camketi. hoda, aqaurebi
ufro Tavisuflebi, ufro gabe-
dulebi da daumorCileblebi
gaxldnen. bedi da mdgomareoba
maT did movaleobas _ momxv-
durTaTvis gzis Caketvas ava-
lebda. bolos es movaleoba
omer faSas SemoWris dros
aRasrules, rodesac yovelnai-
rad SeuSales xeli safafios
golasTan dabanakebul Turqis
jaris zemo samegreloSi SemoW-
ras. rasakvirvelia, aq sxva ga-
remoebebmac Tavisi roli Seas-
rula, magram adgilobrivi xal-
xis daumorCilebloba da mzad-
yofna, Sebmodnen Semoseul
duSmans, gadamwyveti faqtori
Seiqmna, rom xeli aeRo mas
mtruli garemocvis lakadaSi
Semosevisgan. zemo bia da bia
saSonio iyo momxvdurisagan
erT-erTi gzis Camketi.
eklesiis da qveynis damcve-
lebi cxovrobdnen aq odiTgan.
moZalebuli iyo maTSi rwme-
na da Zala, Tavganwirva da gamZ-
leoba TanamoZmeTa gadarCenisaT-
vis.
icoda es dadianma, rodesac
1492 wels aqedan Svidi ojaxi,
maT Soris, Soniebi Caiyvana da
daasaxla biWvinTaSi eklesiis
dasacavad. maTve evalebodaT we-
liwadSi samjer sanTlis danTe-
ba. ubraloni ki ar iyvnen, janic
hqondaT da rwmenac, SeeZloT
daecvaT eklesia, daenToT sanTe-
li da aRevlinaT locva RmerTi-
sadmi.
samegrelos samTavros gauq-
mebisa da rusuli mmarTvelobis
SemoRebis Semdeg sofeli zug-
didis mazris SemadgenlobaSi
aRmoCnda.
1871 wlamde bielebis umrav-
lesoba, gansakuTrebiT ki zemo
bielebi da miT umetes, bia saSo-
nios mkvidrni, cxovrobdnen sa-
eklesio miwebze da iyvnen saek-
lesio glexebi. maTTvis ucxo
iyo mebatonisadmi ymoba da mor-
Cileba. gamomdinare aqedan ki
Rirsebis Semlaxavi wesebiT
cxovreba.
1871 wels saeklesio miwebi
gadaeca xazinas da, saTanadod,
eklesiis glexebi gaxdnen saxel-
mwifo glexebi. maSindeli mona-
cemebiT, saqarTveloSi xazinas
gadaeca 120 mln. maneTis qoneba,
maSin, rodesac eklesiebis rCena
jdeboda 2 mln maneTi. amaze aS-
kara yaCaRoba iSviaTad Tu moi-
Zebneba msoflioSi. es rusuli
imperiuli mmarTvelobis `Sedev-
rad~ rCeba msoflio istoriaSi.
1873 wlis monacemebiT, gle-
xebi garkveuli miwis nakveTebs
flobdnen ijariT, arcTu ise
mcire iyo maTi kuTvnili miwis
farTi.
1873 wels iose Sonia da mi-
si Svilebi flobdnen 76 qceva
miwas. sakmao miwis mflobelebi
iyvnen iosava bekoia, romelic 45
qceva dablar venaxs da 24 sax-
navs flobda, aseve iosava daTi-
kia da Sevardeni. sakmaod didi
miwis mflobelebi iyvnen bigvave-
bi, sikoia, Temuryva, WiTaSvile-
bi _ utu da daviTi, Soniebi _
gigi, pepu, lazarika, siko da
zurab kvaSilavebi ki 460 qceva
miwas flobdnen.
magram aranakleb sainteresoa
is, rom saeklesio (saxelmwifo)
glexebze met miwebs flobdnen
sabatono glexebi. Tavad CiCuas
glexi baxva Radua 450 saxnavs
da562 qceva maRlar-venaxs
flobda. aseve didi miwis far-
Tobebis mflobelebi iyvnen Ta-
vad CiCuas glexebi: WiTaSvili
besiki, aznaur beCuna salayaias
glexi _ beJan xurcia, aznaur
rostom loluas glexze, babu-
koci aleqsandriaze ricxuli
iyo 800 qceva saxnavi miwa. ise
ar unda gavigoT, rom cxovreba
saamuri hqondaT bielebs, bevri
iyo mciremiwianic da visac miwa
hqonda, mas dasamuSaveblad jo-
joxeTuri Sroma uwevda.
meomari da morwmuneni yofi-
lan odiTgan bielebi. mterTan
Seurigebloba da RvTis rwmena
yofila maTi cxovrebis wesi, ra-
sac Tavisa da ojaxis rCenisTvis
titanuri Sroma axlda.
saukuneebiT yalibdeboda bie-
lebis sabrZolo tradicia. me-19
saukuneSi dadianis laSqarSi
osmalebis winaaRmdeg bevrma bi-
elma gamoiCina Tavi. gansakuTre-
buli vaJkacoba gamoiCines pirve-
li msoflio omis frontze bie-
lebma, biidan gawveuli iyo aTze
meti vaJkaci. wminda giorgis
jvriT iyvnen dajildoebuli ka-
listrate Radua da samson big-
vava, xolo grigol bigvava wmin-
da giorgis ori jvris kavaleri
gaxda.
soflis mkvidrTa sabrZolo
suli gansakuTRebiT gamovlinda
meore msoflio omSi, romelic
maSin, rogorc qveynisTvis, aseve
bielebisTvis samamulo omi iyo.
es mere gamoCnda, Turme sxva Ta-
visi saqmisTvis rom gvabrZoleb-
da. rogorc monRolebis, sparse-
lebis, Turqebis saqmeebs ewire-
bodnen maSindeli qarTvelebi,
ise Seewirnen komunisturi ru-
seTis miznebs. qudze kaci iyo
gamosuli am patara Temidan da
ibrZoles kidevac. gawveuli 156
kacidan 88 Seewira am oms, kano-
nisa da qveynis erTgulni:
brZolis velze daecnen oTxi
WiTaSvili, xuTi aleqsandria,
eqvsi Radua, rva bigvava, rva
TuTberiZe, cameti Sonia, 21
iosava. omSi daiRupnen iosavebis
gvaridan Zmebi baliko da vale-
riane, petre da koki, evsevi da
JorJi, kalistrate da vladime-
ri. Soniebi _ kapitoni da oTa-
ri, Zeki da dianozi, aleqsandri-
ebi _ kvebe da kolia, sami Zma
TuTberiZe _ kapitoni, irodi da
estate, bigvava _ jogo da ipo-
lite.
brZolaSi daeca diviziis
Stabis ufrosi, saqarTvelos
kavSirgabmulobis saxalxo ko-
misris moadgile zinobi Sonia.
sainteresod warimarTa lusion
Sonias bedi _ is omis pirveli-
ve dReebSi tyved Cavarda, Semdeg
gaiqca da SeuerTda italiel
partizanebs, sadac is italie-
lebis sayvareli gmiri gaxda.
omidan dabrunebuli Tavis ojax-
Tan erTad Sua aziaSi gadaasax-
les.
SinmousvlelTa sia naTlad
metyvelebs saqarTvelos am pata-
ra soflis tragediaze.
ai, isinic:
Sinmousvlel bielTa sia, da-
zustebuli 11989 wels (rigiTo-
ba daculia daRRupvis Sesaxeb mo-
suli Setyobinebebis drois mi-
xedviT)::
bigvava silovan meseilis Ze
iosava sara grigoris Ze
iosava valiko zalikas Ze
iosava valeriane zalikas Ze
TuTberiZe kolia egnates Ze
TuTberiZe lukiane onisimes Ze
TuTberiZe parmeni onisimes Ze
Radua ladi jaos Ze
baraSvili irodi jondis Ze
Sonia iliko basas Ze
Sonia kapitoni aleqsis Ze
Sonia oTari aleqsis Ze
Sonia evgeni filus Ze
Sonia Zeke gaxunias Ze
Sonia dianozi gaxus Ze
Sonia aristano artemis Ze
CubiniZe alioSa giorgis Ze
salayaia kalistrate ijanjas Ze
xarebava Teufane iosebis Ze
Serozia vladimeri beglaris Ze
farRalava ladi arCilis Ze
gvalia levan maqsimes Ze
lipartia valeriane arCilis Ze
qajaia kolia solomonis Ze
aleqsandria jvebe ivlionis Ze
aleqsandria nove markozis Ze
lomsaZe vaso lavrentis Ze
iosava alioSa iakobis Ze
Sonia duru kondrates Ze
Sonia miza zaqarias Ze
dolbaZe sara gvadis Ze
Todua biqtori tarasis Ze
WiTaSvili amirani ermines Ze
WiTaSvili Teodoti isidores Ze
TuTberiZe kapitoni besas Ze
TuTberiZe prokopi kalistrates Ze
TuTberiZe estate besarionis Ze
TuTberiZe irodi besarionis Ze
TuTberiZe diomide ionas Ze
bigvava JorJi grigoris Ze
bigvava irodi ilarionis Ze
bigvava abrami nikolozis Ze
bigvava griSa besarionis Ze
bigvava amirani besarionis Ze
iosava kapiton berdes Ze
rekvava ivane iosebis Ze
iosava valodia vasilis Ze
iosava akaki grigoris Ze
iosava artemi besarionis Ze
iosava ladi mixas Ze
iosava petre vasilis Ze
iosava kika vasilis Ze
Radua iona vladimeris Ze
iosava valeriane lavrentis Ze
bigvava jogo gudus Ze
bigvava ipolite gudus Ze
Serozia kolia ivanes Ze
qaquTia buta ivanes Ze
kvaSilava noe petres Ze
alania griSa grigoris Ze
WiTaSvili arvelodi Teimurazis Ze
Radua noe akakis Ze
WiTaSvili nikolozo nikolozis Ze
Sonia parTeni mixeilis Ze
iosava levarsi sogratis Ze
iosava eqvsevi paxulis Ze
iosava kalistrate besarionis Ze
iosava vladimeri besarionis Ze
aleqsandria daTiko ivanes Ze
iosava kalistrate besarionis Ze
iosava vladimeri besarionis Ze
aleqsandria daTiko ivanes Ze
iosava jondi iakobis Ze
qoraia miro melitonis Ze
qoraia ilia ivanes Ze
Radua artemi petres Ze
pertaia vaso besas Ze
aleqsandria aleqsandre andronikes Ze
Radua ipolite solomonis Ze
cxomaria Salva tarasis Ze
daviTuliani parmeni oqruas Ze
torCinava kondrate ivanes Ze
iosava Teufane meTos Ze
qaquTia valiko besarionis Ze
iosava Sio besarionis Ze
Sonia zinobi dutus Ze
Radua irodi simonis Ze
Sonia apaloni melitonis Ze
maT Tavisi vali moixades
brZolis velze mterTan Sejaxe-
baSi.
afxazeTi da samaCablo ki
davkargeT. saqarTvelos mTavar-
sardlebma _ jer SevardnaZem,
Semdeg ki saakaSvilma ver Sekra
erT muStad mterTan saomrad
qarTvelni. davmarcxdiT, sabo-
lood saqarTvelo gaiyida da
adamianebi Tavis qveyanaSi dev-
nilni gaxdnen.
Tavisi meomruli tradicie-
bisTvis arc Semdeg uRalatiaT
bielebs _ sad ar Cadgnen sam-
xedro samsaxurSi da ibrZoles
_ gansakuTrebiT eraySi, avRaneT-
Si da Tavi ar SeurcxveniaT.
gamodis, rom magrebi varT
sxvis omSi.
magram es kidev sakiTxavia.
es istoriaa.
istoria ki ar unda daikar-
gos.
grigol Sonia599 97 46 44
Cemi sofeli
qalRmerTis saxeliT(legenda da sinamdvile)
15saerTo gazeTi#20 (332), 3.VI, 2015 w.
nnooaamm xxoommsskkii eerrTT-eerrTTii mmnniiSSvv-
nneelloovvaannii ffiigguurraaaa mmssoofflliioo iinn-
tteelleeqqttuuaalluurr ssaazzooggaaddooeebbaaSSii..
ffiilloossooffoossssaa ddaa lliinnggvviissttss,, 8866
wwlliiss nnooaamm xxoommsskkiiss,, aassaakkii aarr
uuSSlliiss xxeellss iiyyooss kkvvllaavvaacc aannggaa-
rriiSSggaassaawweevvii ddaa yyvveellaazzee SSeeuurrii-
ggeebbeellii aannaarrqqiissttii.. iiss kkvvllaavvaacc
aaqqttiiuurraadd eewwiinnaaaaRRmmddeeggeebbaa uussaa-
mmaarrTTlloobbaass ddaassaavvlluurr ssaammyyaarroo-
SSii..
ggTTaavvaazzoobbTT ffrraaggmmeenntteebbss iinn-
tteerrvviiuuddaann,, rroommeelliicc noamxomskim `̀eevvrroonniiuussss~~ mmiissccaa..
__ 22001155 wweellii ZZaalliiaann mmSSffooTT-
vvaarree aaRRmmooCCnnddaa,, mmaaggrraamm TTuu mmTTllii-
aannoobbaaSSii SSeevvxxeeddaavvTT,, ooppttiimmiizzmmss
ggrrZZnnoobbTT TTuu ppeessiimmiizzmmss SSeeqqmmnniill
ssiittuuaacciiaaSSii??
_ globaluri Tvalsazri-
siT, ufskrulisken mivdivarT
da Rirseuli gadarCenis pers-
peqtivebi naklebia.
__ rraa uuffsskkrruulliiaa eess??
_ SeiZleba iTqvas, ori sa-
xis ufskrulis winaSe varT.
pirveli, es aris ekologiuri
katastrofa, romelic gardau-
valia. Zalian cota dro dagvr-
Ca, rom vecadoT da raime gamo-
vasworoT. Cven gaurkveveli mi-
marTulebiT mivdivarT.
meore saSiSroeba aris bir-
Tvuli omi. Tu yuradRebiT da-
akvirdebiT am problemas, daina-
xavT, rom Cven mxolod saswau-
lebrivad varT gadarCenilni am
saSinelebisgan.
__ mmooddiiTT,, yyuurraaddRReebbaa mmiivvaaqqccii-
ooTT ggaarreemmoommccvveell ssaammyyaarrooss.. CCvveenn
vvTTxxoovveeTT aauuddiittoorriiaass ddaa ssoocciiaa-
lluurrii qqsseelliiss mmoommxxmmaarreebblleebbss,,
TTqqvveennTTvviiss kkiiTTxxvveebbii ddaaeessvvaaTT.. uuaamm-
rraavvii kkiiTTxxvvaa ddaaggrroovvddaa.. mmaaggaallii-
TTaadd,, eerrTT-eerrTTii aassee JJRReerrss:: rrooccaa
TTqqvveenn aakkvviirrddeebbiiTT ggaarreemmooss ffii-
lloossooffoossiiss TTvvaalliiTT,, rrooggoorr
ffiiqqrroobbTT,, kklliimmaattii ssaaggrrZZnnoobbllaadd
SSeeiiccvvaallaa??
_ adamianTa modgma, SesaZ-
loa, 100 000 wlisa iyos da
is axla gadis Tavisi istoriis
unikalur periods. es modgma
dRes iseT mdgomareobaSia, rom
man unda iCqaros, mas uwevs ga-
dawyvetilebis miReba Caataros
Tu ara eqsperimenti maRalgan-
viTarebuli cxovreba gaagrZe-
los Tu gaanadguros. mecnier-
Ta umravlesoba miiCnevs, rom
bunebriv resursebs unda gavuf-
rTxildeT, rom Cvens momavlebs
Rirseuli cxovrebis perspeqti-
va hqondeT. magram Cveni sazoga-
doebis institucionaluri
struqturebi cdiloben bolo
wveTamde amowuron maragi. kli-
matis cvlilebis Tvalsazri-
siT, kacobriobis momavali ka-
tastrofulia da Cven ufskru-
lisken mivemarTebiT.
__ rraacc SSeeeexxeebbaa bbiirrTTvvuull oommss..
ddiiddii xxaannii aarr aarriiss,, rraacc mmiiaaRRwwii-
eess SSeeTTaannxxmmeebbaass iirraanniiss pprrooggrraa-
mmaassTTaann ddaakkaavvSSiirreebbiiTT.. ggaaZZlleevvTT
TTuu aarraa iimmeeddiiss TTuunnddaacc nnaappeerrww-
kkaallss iiss,, rroomm ddeeddaammiiwwaa SSeeiiZZllee-
bbaa ppootteenncciiuurraadd uussaaffrrTTxxoo aadd-
ggiillaadd iiqqcceess??
_ me momxre var iranTan mo-
laparakebebis, Tumca arsebiTad
mainc Secdomebs uSveben. arse-
bobs ori saxelmwifo, romle-
bic angariSgasawevia axlo aR-
mosavleTSi mudmivi agresiis,
Zaladobis, teroristuli aqte-
bis da ukanono moqmedebebis
kuTxiT. orive maTgans birTvu-
li iaraRis uzarmazari arsena-
li aqvs. magram amaze aravin sa-
ubrobs.
__ rroommeell qqvveeyynneebbss gguulliissxx-
mmoobbTT??
_ aSS-sa da israels. eseni
ori mTavari birTvuli saxelm-
wifoebia msoflioSi. amitoma-
caa sazogadoebriv gamokiTxveb-
Si, romelsac aSS-is sociolo-
giuri samsaxurebi awarmoeben,
gamokiTxulTa umravlesoba
aSS-s miiCnevs msoflioSi yve-
laze saSiS Zalad. arc erTi
sxva saxelmwifo ar Seedreba
mas am kuTxiT.
__ TTqqvveenn ppaattiivvss aarr sscceemmTT
aaSSSS-iiss pprreezziiddeennttss bbaarraakk oobbaammaass..
iiss ccddiilloobbss SSeeaammcciirrooss bbiirrTTvvuu-
llii oommiiss ssaaffrrTTxxee.. eess aarr ggaaZZ-
lleevvTT mmiiss mmiimmaarrTT ssxxvvaaggvvaarraadd
ffiiqqrriiss ssaaSSuuaalleebbaass??
_ sinamdvileSi ise ar aris,
rogorc Tqven fiqrobT. barak
obamam moawera xeli birTvuli
iaraRis modernizaciis progra-
mas aSS-Si da trilioni dola-
ric gamoyo amisTvis. es ki niS-
navs, rom afarToebs birTvuli
sistemebis warmoebas. es aris
erT-erTi mizezi, ris gamoc
TandaTan cxadi xdeba bolo Ja-
mis dro da saaTi, razec mecni-
erebi werdnen Jurnal-gazeTeb-
Si, sul axlaxan, gasul kvi-
ras, sul ori wuTiRaa darCe-
nili SuaRamemdeo. SuaRame, es
aris dasasruli. axla saaTi
Ramis 3 saaTs aCvenebs, rac uf-
ro mokle droa dasasrulamde.
bolo 30 wlis ganmavlobaSi
reiganis periodze ufro mZime
viTarebaa. maSinac didi iyo
omis saSiSroeba.
__ kkiiddeevv eerrTTii SSeekkiiTTxxvvaa aamm
TTeemmaazzee.. kkvvllaavv ssoocciiaalluurrii qqssee-
lleebbiiddaann.. ggjjeerraaTT TTuu aarraa,, rroomm
aaSSSS-ii ooddeessmmee mmooaawweerrss xxeellss
iisseeTT xxeellSSeekkrruulleebbaass,, rroommeelliicc
iissrraaeelliissTTvviiss ssaazziiaannoo iiqqnneebbaa??
_ aSS-i mudmivad dgams nabi-
jebs, romlebic israelisTvis
aris saSiSi. kerZod, israelis
politikis mxardaWera aris
amis magaliTi. bolo 40 weli-
wadia yvelaze did safrTxes
israelisTvis TviT misi poli-
tika warmoadgens. Tu ukan dav-
brundebiT 40 wliT, davuSvaT,
1970 welSi, davinaxavT, rom
israeli iyo erT-erTi yvelaze
pativsacemi qveyana msoflioSi.
bevrs moswonda is. axla ki is
erT-erT yvelaze arasimpaTiur
qveynad iTvleba msoflioSi. mi-
si eSiniaT. 70-iani wlebis da-
sawyisSi israelma miiRo ga-
dawyvetileba. maT arCevanis sa-
Sualeba hqondaT da maT gadawy-
vites gafarToebuliyo qveyana,
vidre hqonodaT simSvide. yove-
live aman didi safrTxeebis wi-
naSe daayena israeli. me vwerdi
maTze, amas sxvebic aRniSnavdnen.
roca miiCnev, rom qveynis ga-
farToeba ufro mTavaria, vidre
mSvidoba, es moitans qveynis
SigniT areulobebs, winaaRmde-
gobebs, agresias, izolacias da
SesaZloa, saboloo ganadgure-
basac ki. aseT politikas mxars
uWers aSS. e. i. is xels uwyobs
israels daRupvaSi.
yvelaze saSineli te-roristuli kampania ms-oflioSi vaSingtonidanimarTeba. globaluri mkvle-
lobebis kampaniaa gaSlili. ase-
Ti masStabis teroristuli
kampania arasdros yofila
msoflioSi.
__ rraass gguulliissxxmmoobbTT gglloobbaa-
lluurr mmkkvvlleelloobbeebbzzee rroomm ssaauubb-
rroobbTT??
_ msoflios sxvadasxva qve-
yanaSi aSS-i sistematurad, Ri-
ad, ar arsebobs araviTari sai-
dumlo da yvelam viciT amis
Sesaxeb, rom mimdinareobs ada-
mianTa mospobis regularuli
kampania, romelSic amerikuli
xelmZRvaneloba aris eWvmitani-
li. es kampania gadasxvaferebu-
li teroria. roca bombaven, ma-
galiTad, sofels iemenSi da
klaven adamians, romelsac ara-
feri dauSavebia, rogor ggoni-
aT, isini ar zRaven amisTvis?
__ TTqqvveenn aaSSSS-ss tteerroorriissttuull
ssaaxxeellmmwwiiffooss uuwwooddeebbTT.. rrooggoorr
SSeeaaffaasseebbTT eevvrrooppaass??
_ saintereso SekiTxvaa.
ramdenime xnis win kvleva Ca-
tarda Cemi fondis `Ria sazo-
gadoebis~ iniciativiT, romel-
mac cxadhyo, rom wamebis yvela-
ze mZime forma aris patimarTa
sagangebo wameba. es niSnavs, rom
dapatimrebul adamians ugzavniT
Tqvens sayvarel diqtators _
asads, mubaraqs an kadafs, rom
maT awamon da Tqven miiRoT Se-
degi. kvlevam aCvena, rom am sa-
SinelebebSi axlo aRmosavle-
Tis yvela diqtatori iRebda
monawileobas imitom, rom iq
gadahyavdaT eWvmitanilebi sawa-
meblad TviT evropidanac ki. in-
glisidan, Sveciidan, sxva qvey-
nebidan. erTaderTi qveyana ar
monawileobda amaSi. es iyo la-
Tinuri amerika. moulodnelo-
baa, ara? magram yovelive es
moxda imis gamo, rom laTinuri
amerika mniSvnelovnad gamovida
aSS-is gavlenidan. roca is iyo
aSS-is kontrolqveS, wamebis
msoflio centrad iyo aRiare-
buli. axla is aRar monawile-
obs msgavs saqmeebSi. evropa mo-
nawileobs. batonma brZana, msa-
xuri _ asrulebs.
__ eevvrrooppaa aammeerriikkiiss mmssaaxxuurriiaa??
_ isini mSiSrebi arian. ami-
tom damoukideblad sityvas
ver Zraven.
__ TTuu SSeevvxxeeddaavvTT ssiittuuaacciiaass
eevvrrooppaaSSii,, aarriiss eerrTTii ssaaiinntteerreessoo
ffeennoommeennii.. CCvveenn vvxxeeddaavvTT,, rroomm ssaa-
bbeerrZZnneeTTii aaRRmmoossaavvlleeTTiisskkeenn mmiiii-
wweevvss.. xxeeddaavvTT aaqq eevvrrooppiiss iinntteerree-
sseebbiiss ddaaaaxxllooeebbaass rruusseeTTTTaann??
_ saberZneTs aRar surs mi-
si bedi briuselSi da germanul
bankebSi wydebodes. samuSao
aRar aris saberZneTSi, TiTqmis
40% siRaribis zRvarzea. sa-
berZneTs angreven.
__ rrooddiiss CCaammooaawweerreenn ssaabbeerrZZ-
nneeTTss vvaalleebbss??
_ zustad ise, rogorc ger-
manias 1953 wels, roca evropam
Camoawera germanias vali. ubra-
lod, imisTvis, germanias rom
SeZleboda omis Sedegebisgan
Tavis daRweva.
__ ssxxvvaa eevvrrooppuullii qqvveeyynneebbii??
_ maTac igive bedi eliT.
__ aannuu ppoorrttuuggaalliiaassaacc ddaa eess-
ppaanneeTTssaacc CCaammooaawweerreenn??
_ vin unda daabrunos es va-
lebi? isini xom diqtatorebma
daades qveynebs. saberZneTSi iyo
faSisturi diqtatura, romel-
sac aSS-i mfarvelobda. swored
mag dros daedo valebi saberZ-
neTs. me vfiqrob, es valebi uf-
ro binZuri fulia, vidre diq-
tatura. saerTaSoriso enaze
amas `odiozuri vali~ hqvia...
valebis didi nawili aris ban-
kebis gadasaxadebi germanuli
da franguli bankebisTvis, rom-
lebmac Zalian didi riskis fa-
sad gasces procentiani kredi-
tebi.
__ kkiiddeevv eerrTTii SSeekkiiTTxxvvaa aauuddii-
ttoorriiiissggaann:: rrooggoorr mmiiuuddggeebbaa eevv-
rrooppaa eekkzziisstteenncciiaalluurr pprroobbllee-
mmeebbss,, rroommeellssaacc SSeeeejjaaxxaa __ eekkoonnoo-
mmiikkuurr kkrriizziissss,, nnaacciioonnaalliizzmmss,,
kkuullttuurruull ddaacceemmaass,, rrooggoorr
uuyyuurreebbTT eevvrrooppiiss ttrraannssffoorrmmaaccii-
aass??
_ evropa seriozuli prob-
lemebis winaSe dgas. probleme-
bis nawili ekonomikuri poli-
tikis Sedegia, romelic briuse-
lidan modis, evrokomisiidan,
natodan da msxvili bankebidan.
konkretulad germanuli banke-
bidan. erTi mxriv, maT surT
gascen sarisko investiciebi, ra-
Ta movale qveynebs SeeqmnaT saf-
rTxe. saxelmwifoebis keTil-
dReoba, simdidre da Zliereba
maT ar awyobT... meore proble-
mad evropisTvis rasizmis prob-
lemaa. yovelTvis vgrZnobdi,
rom evropa ufro rasistuli
iyo, vidre aSS-i. es evropaSi
ufro SesamCnevi iyo, imitom,
rom evropelebi Tavs gansakuT-
rebul rasad miiCnevdnen, qerebi,
cisferi TvalebiT. magram axla
mosaxleobis garegnoba icvleba
da rasizmi ayvavebas iwyebs. es
seriozuli kulturuli prob-
lemaa evropasTvis.
...imedi unda viqonioT, rom
sabolood daiwyeba saxalxo
gamosvlebi, ganadgurebis, eko-
nomikis ngrevis, mZime socia-
luri politikis, biurokra-
tizmisa da bankebis winaaRmdeg.
es maimedebs da es aucileblad
moxdeba.
mmooaammzzaaddaa
iranda kalandaZem593 56 11 18
((iibbeeWWddeebbaa mmcciirreeddii SSeemmookklleebbiiTT))
`samyaro
ufskrulisken
mieqaneba~
noam xomski:
16 saerTo gazeTi #20 (332), 3.VI, 2015 w.
mmkkiiTTxxvveelliiss
ggaammooxxmmaauurreebbaa
`im dadastrurebuli faqte-
bisa Tu mosazrebaTa nakrebi, ra-
sac Tqven beWdavT, absoluturad
misaRebia yvela, amgvar sakiTxeb-
Si met-naklebad gaTviTcnobiere-
buli mkiTxvelisTvis. me minda
mxolod mciredi Sevmato Tqven
masalas rogorc qarelSi mcxov-
rebma TviTmxilvelma.
upirvelesad, vis da rac un-
da, is sarCuli daudos _ msof-
lio civilizacia marTlac Zve-
li kolxeTidan iwyeba! maias to-
mi kolxeTidan (saqarTvelodan)
aris amerikis kontinentze gada-
suli! ras niSnavs m-aia? _ `aia~
kodirebulia amiranisgan... adamis
saflavic iq aris, sadac miniSne-
baa, xaSuri-xaragaulis mTis
qveS, igive lixis qedi, suramis
qedi, geTsimaniis qedi, amiranis
qedi. `surami~ kodirebuli sity-
vaa, romlis gasaRebi `amirania.~
msoflioSi adamianebis ganTesva
moxda kolxeTidan (saqarTvelo-
dan). qarTuli kodirebuli enaa.
sityvebSi marcvlebi: `ali~,
`don~, `ami~, `oni~ _ gasaRebs
Seicavs. amaze sasuliero pireb-
Tan rom viwyeb saubars, garbian,
magram aris ori episkoposi, ro-
melic yuradRebiT mismens. am
SemTxvevaSi bibliur doneebzea
sasaubro da yvelaferi erTad
Tavs iyris aq, saqarTveloSi, sa-
dac RmerTis adgilia _ fsalmu-
nebSi Zalian kargadaa miniSnebu-
li yvelaferi.
amaswinaT, erT-erT ugvano
SouSi (`sxva rakursi~ _ g.C)
profesiiT fizikosi sasuliero
piri iyo miwveuli da saubari
aramiwier civilizacias exeboda.
mRvdelma `amo-s~ TviTmxilve-
lebs erT momentSi `dautatana~
_ iqneb Cvenc gvinaxavs rameo?!
hoda, Tu ginaxavT da raime fase-
ul informacias flobT, vis una-
xavT? amden malva-parvaSi mTlad
gaafarCakes saqarTvelos namdvi-
li istoria, misi mistiuri ar-
si, misi namdvili daniSnuleba
dedamiwaze...
axla rasac vityvi, Zalian
bevrisTvis absoluturad gauge-
bari iqneba, magram vinc odnav ma-
inc Caxedulia warsulis maZie-
bel da mis damdgen mecnierebeb-
Si da cotaodeni ezoTerikisac
esmis, axali da ucnauri araferi
iqneba. mas Semdeg, rac msoflio
masStabiT jer Zalze viwro da
erT wreSi gaJona informaciam
rom saqarTveloSi raRac `kosmi-
uri zeganZi moipoveboda~, Semd-
gom ki, ukve wre gafarTovda
garkveuli ordenebis saxiT, mte-
ri da mtrad mosuli moyvare ar
daelia saqarTvelos. saqme imaSi
gaxlavT, rom is, vinc miiswraf-
vis msoflio batonobisken, am
adgilis gareSe verafers miaR-
wevs. maTi gegmaa axali adamia-
nis Seqna. am gegmis umTavresi na-
wilia, rom Cven, konkretulad
qarTvelebs, rogorc am adgilis
mflobelebs, dagvikargon (gagvi-
yalbon) istoria, ena, sarwmuno-
eba, erovneba, dagvikargon gene-
tikuri mexsiereba da upirvele-
sad ki ena – es araa Sefaruli
brZola, pirdapir gvebrZvian da
vai, mas, vinc amas ver xedavs!
sinis TargmanSi ufali or
mimarTvas `TqvenobiT~ ambobs, me-
sames ki, `SenobiT~, es mesame
aris `naTesavi kacTasa~, anu am
adgilis macxovreblebisadmi _
qarTvelebi, Sinaurebi, yvela
sxva ucxoa, romlebic ukve gan-
Tesilebi arian. `me Tavi davim-
dable da Sen aRgamaRle~... me
imisTvis movedi, rom Seni mcne-
ba, romelic SenTvisaa dawerili,
aravin miitacoso – amisTvis ec-
va qriste jvars, CvenTvis, qarT-
velebisTvis, TavisianebisTvis,
maTTvis, visac SenobiT mimar-
Tavs.
mama RmerTi, Ze RmerTi da
suliwminda momdinareobs qris-
tes gaCenidan, magram manamde
RmerTs erqva `amirani~ _ daima-
la es saxeli, romelsac `Rmer-
TTa RmerTi~ RmerTi hqvia aRmo-
savleT saqarTveloSi, dasavleT-
Si hqvia dedamiwis RvTaeba. ami-
rani aris erTaderTi cocxali
RmerTi da man Seqmna adami _ amas
ambobs maTe 16;16 `amirani~ unda
damaluliyo garkveul dromde.
lazarem gaiRviZa ukve...
ratom iCqmaleba movlena,
rom amoucnobi cecxlis gadmos-
vla xdeba saqarTveloSi, Rmer-
Tis mTaze? _ qarelidan Cans.
imave adgilze oTxiv mxares mima-
vali Rrublebia _ aseT rames
sadme vinme wawydomia? Rame, ro-
desac naTeli, varskvlavebiani ca
aris pirdapir isaxeba xe, rome-
lic Semoragulia varskvlavebiT
_ es iseTi saidumloa, rac sa-
qarTvelos garda arsadaa da ar
weren amaze. es igivea rac `ali~,
`doni~, `sioni~ da a.S aqedan gan-
Tesilma xalxma waiRo es saxe-
lebi... germanuli _ ain, cvain,
drain (erTi, ori, sami), `ain~
(`ani~) igive suliwminda, `cva-
ni~ (`svani~) da `don-i~ _ `d~
RmerTis adgili (Tu SegimCnevi-
aT, magaliTad, sceticxovelSi
saflavis qvebze, kuTxeSi, yvel-
gan Zveli qarTuli `d~ aris ga-
mosaxuli) da `r~ _ qristes mi-
maniSnebeli simbolo _ es aTas-
wleulebis winandelia, magram
enam brwyinvaled Semoinaxa...
ratom mokvda lazare, es
vrceli da rTuli Temaa, imitom
rom `daekargeba maT brZenTa sib-
rZne da gonierTa goniereba~ _
qarTvelebma dakarges yvelaferi,
wylulisgan gamomdinare miiZines
da dRemde asea... mTeli msoflio
saqarTvelodan imarTeboda, mag-
ram rodesac wyevla iwyebs moq-
medebas, ecema siZliere ai, aq,
kolxeTis samefoze da veRar
marTavs. `qanaani~ _ igive megre-
lebisa da svanebis dasaxleba
iyo, `qani~ da `ani~... daikarga
sibrZne, TiTqos mokvda Zalada-
karguli lazare...
RmerTis Zala sityvaSia,
`pirvelad iyo sityva~. sityva
aris enis Semadgeneli _ RmerTis
ena qarTuli enaa, anu am xalxis
sityvas hqonda iseTi Zala, rom
bunebrivi movlenebis gamowveva
SeeZloT. wyevlis Semdeg daikar-
ga es Zala da Sesabamisad cod-
nac...
biblia ar aris moTxroba.
marTalia, is gadawerilia dakar-
guli (Tu moparuli?) `efuTi-
dan~, magram yvela SemTxvevaSi
biblia daSifruli faqtebia.
`lazares~ sikvdilidan aRsadge-
nad lazare Setanili iqna saxa-
rebaSi, or-samjeraa naxsenebi
lukas saxarebaSi. 10 saukunis
mere wers ioane zosime rom la-
zare aris RmerTis ena, es ena
aris qarTuli da es Tqva Rmer-
Tma... mokled rom vTqvaT, codna
dakargulia da mere weren ebra-
elebi...
SexedeT, erovneba amogviSa-
les, enas pirdapir rom ver mi-
adgnen, (ki miadgnen, magram ver
gaitanes) eSmakurad dauwyes ga-
dagvareba, magram cota rom ga-
dagvaWarbeben viRacebi, imasac
amogviSlian. sanacvlod, sxvebi
swavloben qarTuli enas radgan
frTxiloben, ar dakargon is
codna, romlid gagebac mxolod
qarTuladaa SesaZlebeli.~
eeggvviippttuurrii iieerroogglliiffii
`̀aannxx~~ ddaa ssvvaannuurrii `̀aanngg~~
qarTveli mkvlevarebi ise
arian daTrgunvilebi uxilavi
wnexisgan, pirdapir ver daurqme-
viaT saxeli imisTvis, rac xelis-
gulze devs cxadad, mxolod mok-
rZalebul varaudebs gamoTqvamen.
ratom ar unda iyviros qarTvel-
ma, roca mas uxsovari droidan
aqvs svanur saweso ritualebSi
erT-erTi umTavresi elementi
`ang-i~ aqvs da absoluturad mi-
si sworferia egvipturi ierog-
lifi `anx-i~? (nax. 2) elementa-
rulad, saintereso mainc unda
iyos imis garkveva, ra kavSirSia
erTmaneTisgan absoluturad yo-
velmxriv daSorebuli qveyana eg-
vipturi civilizacia da saqarT-
velos erT-erTi kuTxe, svaneTi
da svanuri agraruli dResaswau-
lebi `aRba-laRrali~ da `limur-
yvamali~ (oqros nakeTobebi saqar-
Tvelodan gahqondaT egvipteSi
Tu ara, es calke sakiTxia da
amis Sesaxeb vTqviT kidec).
orive svanuri dResaswaulis
mTavari saweso moqmedeba koSkis
agebaa. koSkis SuaSi, maRal xeze,
romelsac svanurad `ang-i~ hqvia,
xelmandiliani droSaa aRmarTu-
li, Tumca zogjer damagrebulia
adamianis gamosaxulebac `lama-
ria~, romelsac xelSi daSna
ukavia. win xis falosi aqvs Ca-
mokidebuli, xolo saxis adgil-
ze saceri ukeTia. aRniSnuli ri-
tualis centraliri elementi,
`ang-i~, rogorc sicocxlis xe
misteriuli daniSnulebiT, for-
miT da TviT saxeliTac, Zalian
Camohgavs III dinastiis egviptis
saritualo nivTs `anx-s~, rome-
lic dRemde mravali qveynis
mkvlevarTa didi dainteresebis
sagania. anxi, romelic aseve iwo-
deba `kruqs ansat-ed~, anu tari-
an jvrad, Zvel egvipteSi yvela-
ze gavrcelebuli simboloa da
III dinastiidan moyolebuli xSi-
rad aris arqeologiur masaleb-
Si, uamravi liTonis, Tixisa da
xis anxia napovni. maTi didi na-
wili amuletia, romelsac unda
uzrunveleyo mflobelis si-
cocxlis gaxangrZliveba, xolo
gardacvalebis Semdeg iqauri si-
cocxle. anxi metwilad RmerTeb-
sa da faraonebs ukaviaT, aseve
xSirad aris egvipturi akldame-
bis, maT Soris tut-anx-amonis
(TuT-ang-amoni) akldamis warwe-
rebSi. xSirad, saritualo Wur-
Welsac anxis forma hqonda da
igive formas imeorebda sistra,
malamos kovzi da sarke. aRsaniS-
navia, rom Sua saukuneebidan mo-
yolebuli, sarkesac anxs uwo-
debdnen, radgan Tvlidnen, rom
sicocxle da sikvdili erTma-
neTs ireklaven.
vinaidan egviptis mosaxleo-
bis umetesoba wera-kiTxvis uco-
dinari iyo, es niSani maTTvis ga-
sagebi versiiT _ sandlis Rvede-
bi _ gamoisaxeboda. mdabioTa mi-
er gakeTebul WurWelze xSirad
iyo anxis gamosaxuleba. igi gah-
yva yvela dinastias da koptur
qristianul eklesiaSic ki, ro-
gorc jvarcma, mistikuri Zalis
mqone simbolos mniSvneloba Se-
inarCuna.
anxis savaraudo funqcia rT-
uli seqsualuri simbolizmidan
ubralo sandlamde meryeobs. rad-
gan anxi sicocxlis simboloa,
mravagvari gamovlinebac aqvs. eg-
viptur miTologiaSi, rodesac
anxi anubiss ukavia, micvalebul-
Ta sicocxles icavs; seqmeTis,
uarisa da hapis xelSi _ macocx-
lebel wyalTan kavSirSia; TvTae-
ba amenis xelSi _ sicocxlis
STabervas emsaxureba... anxi nilo-
sis arxis kedelzec iyo gamosa-
xuli, rogorc misi dinebis ada-
mianTa sasikeTod warmmarTvelis.
((ggaaggrrZZeelleebbaa iiqqnneebbaa))
ciurixis genealogiuri
centris sensaciuri daskvna:
gagrZeleba. dasawyisi
ix. `saerTo gazeTi~ #8-119
tutanhamoni da sxva egviptelifaraonebi kolxebi iyvnen?!
lazuri sicocxlis xe
sicocxlis xe. karxemiSi
angianxi
saerTo gazeTi#20 (332), 3.VI, 2015 w. 17
cnobilli pollittollogis, sa-
zogado moRvawis, yofilli Jur-
nallisttisa da mwerllis jullie-
tto kiezas es intterviu sami
wllis win aris Cawerilli, mag-
ram misi mosazrebebi dResac
aqttualluria, prognozebi ki _
uttyuari.
bolo sami saukunis
istoria dasasruls
uaxlovdeba, fulis
civilizacia midis
_ axla Cven vimyofebiT
gardamaval periodSi, romlis
precedenti istoriaSi ar yo-
fila. igi SeiZleboda dawyebu-
liyo jer kidev am saukunis
dasawyisSi, magram amerikis Se-
erTebulma Statebma 2001
wlis 11 seqtembris movlenebiT
krizisi 7 wliT gadaavada. ga-
daavada, magram Tavidan ver
aicila _ 2008-Si mainc dadga.
visTvis iqneba es epoqa xelsay-
reli, rTuli saTqmelia, mag-
ram erTi ram naTelia _ bolo
sami saukunis istoria dasas-
ruls uaxlovdeba. dResdReo-
biT isic naTelia, rom SeuZle-
belia ganviTareba resursebis
Caketili sistemis SigniT _
msofliom ganviTarebis sazRv-
rebs miaRwia. yvela tyuis, vinc
ambobs, rom wina sistema Senar-
Cundeba. qvanaxSiri, navTobi,
uranic ki _ planetis yvela
resursi amowurulia da sul
mokle xanSi is sabolood amo-
iwureba. yvelaferi Seicvleba
_ Cveni garemomcveli samyaro,
is, rasac miveCvieT. fulis ci-
vilizacia amowuravs Tavs da
wava.
_ naadrevad xom ar marxavT
mas? Tanamedrove kritikosebi
xom ar azviadeben krizisis
masStabebs?
_ araviTar SemTxvevaSi. es
marTlac globaluri krizisia,
maT Soris _ energetikulic.
wyalsac ki imaze mets movix-
marT, vidre bunebas SeuZlia
rom mogvces. ra moxdeba Semd-
gomi aTi wlis ganmavlobaSi,
roca 300 milion adamians am
resursis naklebobis problema
gauCndeba? narCenebis struq-
turac iseTia, gadamuSavebas
azri ekargeba. Cven SevcvaleT
TviTon bunebis gezi.
_ bevri laparakobs ekolo-
giaze. mTavrobebi uamrav Tanxas
xarjaven, mosaxleoba ama Tu im
partiis ekologiur mxars aZ-
levs xmas...
_ unda gaviazroT, rom ad-
rindeli demokratia suls Ra-
favs. evropaSi mosaxleobis na-
xevari aRar dadis arCevnebze _
da ara imitom, rom apolitiku-
ria. xalxs aklia misi intere-
sebis warmomadgenloba xeli-
suflebaSi. parlamentebis, ad-
gilobrivi sabWoebis winaaRm-
degi rodi var. Cemi azriT, un-
da Seiqmnas warmomadgenlobe-
bis axali sistema, axali par-
tiebi da moZraobebi. da moZra-
oba qvemodan unda daiwyos.
_ da ra unda iyos maTi de-
vizi?
_ TviTSezRudva. unda da-
viwyoT Cveni Tavis SezRudva,
TviTonve SevicvaloT da Cveni
cxovrebis wesic SevcvaloT.
Cven mxolod
bazrisTvis vcxovrobT
_ Tqveni varaudiT, msofli-
oSi sakmarisi xalxi mogrovde-
ba, romlebic TavianTi keTili
nebiT mzad iqnebian, Tavi Se-
izRudon? msoflioSi, romlis
didi nawili elementarulad
ver nayrdeba?
_ mSier xalxze ar vlapa-
rakob. isinic ki, visac SeuZlia
TviTSezRudva, amaze arc ki
fiqroben. imitom, rom CveniT
manipulireben, gvasuleleben!
adamianebi yidvis instrumente-
bad aqcies. absoluturi umrav-
lesobis tvini kont-
roldeba. roca vSro-
mobT, roca visvenebT
_ bazrisTvis vcxov-
robT. swored bazari
gvkarnaxobs Cvens moq-
medebebs. Cven ar varT
Tavisufali adamianebi.
Jurnalistebis valia,
amis Sesaxeb mosaxle-
obas acnobon, magram
dumils am-
j o b i n e b e n .
televiziis
meSveobiT, 24
saaTis ganmav-
lobaSi gve-
ubnebian, rom
unda viyidoT
nivTebi, rom
Cveni faseu-
lobebis ska-
la _ es aris Cveni myidvelo-
biTi unari. realurad, Tanamed-
rove televiziaSi uSualod
informacia 8 procents ar aRe-
mateba. sxva danarCeni _ rekla-
ma da garTobaa. da adamians
swored es 92 procenti ayali-
bebs.
_ es bunebrivic aris, rad-
gan televizia reklamis xarj-
ze arsebobs. vinRa Seinaxavs
televiziebs, Tu isini aRara-
fers gayidian? Tqven ras gvTa-
vazobT?
_ Tavdapirvelad, masobrivi
informaciis saSualebebis na-
cionalizacias movaxdendi. 50
wlis win adamianSi pirovnebis
Camoyalibebas ganapirobebda
ojaxi, skola, xandaxan _ ek-
lesia. axla axalgazrdebis az-
rovnebis 90 procents televi-
zia ayalibebs. igi gaxda yvela-
ze mniSvnelovani kulturuli
struqtura mTeli msoflios
masStabiT, amerikidan indoeTi-
sa da CineTis CaTvliT. masob-
rivi informaciis saSua-
lebebis sistema xalxis
fundamenturi uflebaa da
ar SeiZleba misi privati-
zacia. isini saxelmwifo-
sa da xalxs unda daub-
rundes. ra xdeba mTels
msoflioSi _ amis gageba
telearxebis monawileo-
bis gareSe SeuZlebelia,
ris sanacvlodac televi-
zia cdilobs dagviyoli-
os, viyidoT manqana an
sxva raime nivTi. aseve
darwmunebuli var, rom
aucilebelia, fuls rom uS-
vebs im bankebis nacionaliza-
cia, radgan Cven fulis kont-
rols vkargavT.
_ vin `Cven~?
_ saxelmwifo, saxelmwi-
fos moqalaqeebi. `niu-iork ta-
imsma~ pirvel gverdze gamoaq-
veyna werili imis Sesaxeb, rom
uol-stritze mdebare erT-erT
restoranSi, yovelTviurad ik-
ribebian msoflios cxra bankis
xelmZRvanelebi. es ban-
kebia: `goldman saqsi~,
UBS, `amerikis banki~,
`doiCe banki~ da misTa-
nani. yovelTviurad, es
cxra kaci iRebs gadawy-
vetilebebs, romlebic
eqvs miliard adamians exeba:
ramdeni unda iyos umuSevrobis
procenti msoflioSi, ramdeni
adamiani mokvdeba SimSilobiT,
ramdeni mTavroba unda Camoag-
don, ramden ministrs moisyidi-
an da a.S. eseni respeqtabelu-
ri damnaSaveebi arian da nebis-
mier msoflio politikur li-
derze gavlenianebic. maT xel-
Sia realuri Zalaufleba _
fulis Zalaufleba.
aSS _ kargad
SeiaraRebuli
bankroti
_ dRes aranairi safuZveli
ar gagvaCnia vifiqroT, rom
uaxloes momavalSi warmoebis
zrda da moxmareba Sewydeba...
_ ra Tqma unda. ufro metic
_ miliardma Cinelma xorcis
Wama da rZis sma iseve rom da-
iwyon, rogorc Cven, aTi wlis
Semdeg dedamiwaze Cveni adgili
aRar darCeba. da roca adgili
aRar iqneba, es ras niSnavs?
jer kidev 1998 wels amerikis
SeerTebul StatebSi gamoqveyn-
da dokumenti «Project for thenew American century». masSi wi-naswarmetyvelurad weria, rom
2017 wels amerikis usafrTxo-
ebas yvelaze metad CineTi dae-
muqreba. yvelaferi marTldeba.
_ Tqvenc eTanxmebiT Teziss,
rom dedamiwas yvelaze didi
safrTxe CineTisgan emuqreba?
_ ara, safrTxis yvelaze
didi wyaro niu-iorki, uol-
striti da amerikis SeerTebu-
li Statebia. dRes dolari
mkvdaria, amerika – gabankrote-
buli, Tanac kargad SeiaraRe-
buli bankroti. sxvaTa Soris,
saberZneTsa da irlandiaze
ekonomikuri Seteva mxolod
imisTvis aris provoci-
rebuli, rom Seamciros
evropuli valutisa da
mTlianad evropis suve-
reniteti. dResdReobiT xom ev-
ro ufro Zlieria, vidre do-
lari _ Tundac imitom, rom
evrokavSiris vali ufro nak-
lebia, vidre amerikisa. amito-
mac vfiqrob, rom evro ar gaq-
reba.
evropa, rogorc
politikuri da
kulturuli fenomeni,
kvlavac iarsebebs
_ evropasac aqvs bevri sus-
ti wertili. mosaxleoba ber-
deba, xelisufleba iZulebulia
Seiyvanos migrantebi, maT ki,
gansakuTrebiT muslimanebs, ar
surT asimilacia, daZabuloba
Zlierdeba... safrangeTisa da
germaniis saxelmwifoebis meTa-
urebma aRiares, rom multi-
kulturalizmis politika Caf-
lavda.
_ ar mjera multukultu-
ralizmis Cavardnis. `islamuri
fundamentalizmis safrTxe~ _
es amerikis SeerTebuli State-
bis gamogonilia da misi aTv-
lis wertili 2011 wlis 11
seqtemberia. Cven TviTon Sevqme-
niT idea eqsportis demokrati-
is Sesaxeb. erayi da avRaneTi am
sqemis sicocxlisunarianobas
amtkicebs. aseve mcdaria dasav-
leTis mosazreba, rom yvela
xalxma da qveynebma igive gza
unda gaiaron, rac maT ganvles.
_ islamuri samyaro erT
saukuneSi cxovrobs, Cven _
sxva epoqaSi. gana es maTi bra-
lia? ubralod, droisa da si-
tuaciis grZnobaa sruliad gan-
sxvavebuli. amasTan, Cven Sevq-
meniT globalizacia, Cven wa-
varTviT resursebi.
_ dResdReobiT aSkaraa,
rom evropas obieqturad 20
milioni migranti sWirdeba,
magram maTi miReba ar SeuZlia.
sabolood, isini mainc modian
ise, rom normalurad cxovre-
bis aranairi SesaZlebloba ar
gaaCniaT. unda SevignoT, rom
globalizacia _ es aris
xalxis moZraoba, rac
niSnavs kulturis moZra-
obasac.
_ Tqven ar iziarebT
im saSiSroebas, rom ev-
ropa migrantebis nakadSi
gaiTqvifeba?
_ Cemi azriT, evropa,
rogorc politikuri da
kulturuli fenomeni,
momavalSic iarsebebs.
kontinentze mimdinare mov-
lenebi, rasakvirvelia, Zalze
rTulia. aqamde msoflioSi
ar yofila precedenti, rom
sami aTeuli qveyana mSvido-
biani gziT gaerTianebuliyo.
Tanac, dRes evrokavSiris
erTi naxevari `evropulia~,
meore naxevari ki _ `ameri-
kuli~ (igulisxmeba dasavc-
leT da aRmosavleT evropa).
regionis axlandeli krizisi
yvelaze rTulia mis istori-
aSi.
sxvaTa Soris, ruseTs SeuZ-
lia didi roli iTamaSos ev-
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tom, rom mas yvelanairi re-
sursi qveynis SigniT aqvs. ev-
ropa da ruseTi SeZlebdnen
mTel msoflioSi damamSvideb-
lis roli Seasrulon. jerje-
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amerika cdilobs.
elza nabaxteveli
msoflios cxra adamiani,
cxra respeqtabeluri
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li. konkretulad:
muxli 5. sisxlis-samarT-
lebrivi pasuxismgebloba sa-
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armqone pirs, romlebic mud-
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loSi, sisxlis-samarTlebrivi
pasuxismgebloba daekisrebaT
am kodeqsiT, Tu es aris sa-
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li anda Tu sisxlis-samarT-
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_ TqvenTvis sainterseso
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muxli 21. danaSaulze ne-
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man amsruleblis mier danaSa-
ulis dawyebamde uari Tqva
Seesrulebina Sepirebuli qme-
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ukan daibruna danaSaulis Ca-
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verZi _Tqvens cxovrebaSi sasi-
keTo cvlilebebia mosalodneli.
pirad cxovrebaSi harmoniuli si-
tuacia daisadgurebs. geliT romantikuli
Tavgadasavlebi.
kuro _ TqvenTvis warmatebuli
periodi dadga. pirad cxovrebaSi
pozitiuri cvlilebebia mosalo-
dneli. Tavs iRblian Seyvarebulad
igrZnobT. karieraSi mniSvnelovani winsvla
geliT. am periodSi dagegmili mivlineba
warmatebuli iqneba.
tyupebi _ gamoiCineT iniciativa
rig SemTxvevaSi agresiulobac,
raTa sasurvel Sedegs miaRwioT.
sifrTxile gmarTebT kolegebTan da mezo-
blebTan urTierTobisas. finansuri opera-
ciebidan did mogebas miiRebT.
kirCxibi _ gamoiCineT maqsima-
luri Sromisunarianoba, raTa sa-
survel Sedegs miaRwioT. dro ga-
monaxeT megobrebisTvis. maTgan miRebuli
energia mniSvnelovan stimuls mogcemT. bi-
znes-ooperaciebSi warmateba geliT, rasac
materialuri mdgomareobis gaumjobeseba
mohyveba. geliT sasiamovno informaciebi.
lomi _ xelmZRvanelobasTan da
saqmian partniorebTan urTierToba
karieraSi mniSvnelovan winsvlas
ganapirobebs. iyaviT maqsimalurad saqmiani,
raTa cxovrebis es saukeTeso periodi xe-
lidan ar gauSvaT.
qalwuli _ sifrTxile gma-
rTebT kolegebTan da mezoblebTan
urTierTobisas. warmateba geliT
finansur operaciebSi. am periodSi dage-
gmili xangrZlivi mivlineba TqvenTvis sa-
surveli SedegiT dasruldeba.
saswori _ pirad cxovrebaSi
mciredi imedgacrueba geliT. Tavi
xelSi aiyvaneT, raTa depresiaSi
ar CavardeT. warmateba geliT finansur
operaciebSi. erideT alkoholsa da ko-
nfliqtur situaciebs.
morieli _ es periodi saerTo
jamSi, pozitiuri movlenebiT xa-
siaTdeba. gamoiCineT iniciativa,
raTa sasurvel Sedegs miaRwioT. geliT
sasiyvarulo urTierTobebSi warmateba. me-
gobrebis daxmarebiT bevr problemas mo-
agvarebT.
mSvildosani _ xelmZRvanelo-
basTan urTierToba Tqvens kari-
eraze dadebiTad imoqmedebs, rasac
SesaZloa dawinaurebac mohyves. kargi iqne-
ba, Tu profilaqtikur mkurnalobas Caita-
rebT. pirad cxovrebaSi harmoniuli situ-
acia SenarCundeba.
Txis rqa _ advilad nuravis
endobiT. sifrTxile gmarTebT me-
gobrebTan urTierTobisas. xe-
lmZRvanelobasTan urTierToba TqvenTvis
sasurveli SedegiT dasruldeba. es peri-
odi piradi cxovrebis mowesrigebas da-
uTmeT.
merwyuli _ Tqvens cxovrebaSi
warmatebuli periodi dadga. gamo-
iCineT maqsimaluri Sromisunari-
anoba, raTa mniSvnelovan warmatebas mi-
aRwioT. geliT romantikuli Tavgadasa-
vlebi da perspeqtiuli winadadebebi. Tavs
iRblian Seyvarebulad igrZnobT.
Tevzebi _ rTul situaciebSi
daxmarebisaTvis megobrebs mima-
rTeT, maTTan urTierToba Tqvens
cxovrebaze karg zegavlenas moaxdens. pi-
rad cxovrebaSi sasiamovno cvlilebebi ge-
liT. SesaZloa wveulebaze SexvdeT adami-
anis, romelic Tqvens cxovrebaSi mniSvne-
lovan adgils daikavebs. warmateba geliT
finansur operaciebSic.
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