7/29/2019 Afrikaanse vertaling van Louise Lab se Sonnet XVIII wat as inspirasie vir Nick Cave se Green Eyes op The Boatm

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Afrikaanse vertaling van Louise Lab se

Sonnet XVIII wat as inspirasie vir Nick Cave se

Green Eyes op The Boatman's Call gedien het.Deur Pieter Uys

Louise Lab, (c. 1520 or 1522, Lyon April 25, 1566, Parcieux),

also identified as La Belle Cordire, (The Beautiful Ropemaker),

was a female French poet of the Renaissance, born at Lyon, the

daughter of a rich ropemaker, Pierre Charly, and his second wife,

Etiennette Roybet. WIKIPEDIA.

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Een van my gunsteling komposisies van Nick Cave is Green Eyes op die album

The Boatman's Call. In die liriekboekie gee hy as volg krediet aan die Franse

digter: "The first line is an extract from a sonnet by Louise Lab"

Onlangs het ek uitgevind dat Johannes Calvyn, die hervormer, diktator enverspreider van spirituele morbiditeit, Louise Lab in 1560 en 1584 as 'n "hoer"

uitgeskel het, onder meer in 'n pamflet:

Gratulatio ad venerabilem presbyterum dominum Gabrielum de Saconay,

praecentorum ecclesiae lugdunensis.*

Daardie belediging as 'n aansporing te dien om haar werk nog meer te

waardeer. verder bekend te stel en te vier.

Green Eyes se liriek begin so:

"Kiss me again, rekiss me and kiss me / Slip your frigid hands beneath my shirt"

My resensie van The Boatman's Call op Amazon.com:

This album with its spiritual imagery contains the odd anthemic ballad like the

rousing There Is A Kingdom, but mostly intimate, subdued songs like Into My

Arms, Lime Tree Arbour and the resigned People Ain't No Good. Cave

interweaves spiritual and sensual metaphor, much like Leonard Cohen. On

Where Do We Go Now But Nowhere? one half expects those Cohenesque

female vocals to frame his deep voice, but they're not there. My favorite is the

weary and erotic Green Eyes, the first line of which is a translation of a sonnet

by the medieval French poet Louise Lab. She was the first to write sonnets in

French (the style originated in Italy) and was known for her passionate themes.

Cave then turns her love poem into a lament of epic proportions filled with

equal amounts of romantic longing and despair. Quite a tour de force and

enhanced by a strategic swear word or two. The poetic effect is greatly

enhanced by the vocal technique: lines are first spoken then sung, which gives

it a ritualistic flavour.

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Hierdie vertaling van my is sommer rof en op die ingewing van die oomblik

gedoen. Ek vermoed dat wanneer Louise die woord "soen" gebruik, sy eintlik

iets anders in gedagte het... maar dit sou lomp wees om dit te vertaal as

"Gemeenskap my weer, gemeenskap my weer en weer :-)

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Sonnet XVIII deur Louise Lab

Soen my weer, kus my weer en weer;

Gee my die mees hemelse soen wat jy het,

Gee my die mees liefdevolle een wat jy kan:

En ek gee jou vier in ruil, warmer as vurige kole.

Wat makeer? Toemaar, ek streel jou pyn

Weg met ng tien soene soeter as heuning.

Sodat plesier ng plesier omhels in ons soene

En ons die volste genot uit mekaar put.

En beide van ons n tweede lewe kry:

Jy leef dan in my soos ek in jou.

Moenie my kwalik neem vir di woordspeletjie nie;

Of my preuts maak en my mond snoer nie.

Laat my siel eerder toe om, dronk van liefde,

Uitspattig te bokspring van vreugde.

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Sonnet XVIII

Baise m'encor, rebaise-moi et baise;

Donne m'en un de tes plus savoureux,

Donne m'en un de tes plus amoureux:Je t'en rendrai quatre plus chauds que braise.

Las! te plains-tu? a, que ce mal j'apaise,

En t'en donnant dix autres doucereux.

Ainsi, mlant nos baisers tant heureux,

Jouissons-nous l'un de l'autre notre aise.

Lors double vie chacun en suivra.

Chacun en soi et son ami vivra.

Permets m'Amour penser quelque folie:

Toujours suis mal, vivant discrtement

Et ne me puis donner contentement

Si hors de moi ne fais quelque saillie.

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A translation by Graham Dunstan:

Kiss me again, kiss, kiss me again;

Give me the tastiest you have to give,

Pay me the lovingest you have to spend:

And Ill return you four, hotter than live

Coals. Oh, are you sad ? There! Ill ease

The pain with ten more kisses, honey-sweet,

And so kiss into happy kiss will melt,

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Well pleasantly enjoy each others selves.

Then double life will to us both ensue:

You also live in me, as I in you.

So do not chide me for this play on words

Or keep me staid and stay-at-home, but make me

Go on that journey best of all preferred:

When out of myself, my dearest love, you take me.

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*In a pamphlet addressed to a staunch Catholic of Lyon, and enemy to the Reformation,

Calvin vilifies de Saconay for his acquaintance with Louise Lab (she was the cousin of a

woman whom a certain Jean Varoz Yvard wanted to divorce; Calvin presided over the

divorce court and wanted to forward Yvard's claim; Lab's notoriety was a convenient way

of proving Yvard's wife guilty by association). Calvin writes: "Hunc ludum quam saepe tibi

praebuit plebeia meretrix quam partim a propria venustate, partim ab opificio mariti, Bellam

cordieram vocabant. This pastime [to cavort with women dressed as men] you often

enjoyed with that common whore they call Beautiful ropemaker, both for her own beauty

and for the occupation of her husband." (quoted in Rigolot, 11)

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