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    David Kopels Claims Regarding the Manchin-Toomey Amendment are False

    Bottom Line: In a statement released on April 15, 2013, David Kopel erroneously argues

    that: (1) the Manchin-Toomey Amendment would permit the creation of a federal gun

    registry, in particular of the records from dealers that have gone out of business; and (2)

    that the Amendment would significantly weaken current protections on interstate travel.In truth, the Amendment maintains current prohibitions on the creation of a federal gun

    registry and protects interstate travel by gun-owners.Kopels false registry claim: The Manchin-Toomey Amendment includes a provision barring

    the Attorney General from consolidating or centralizing records of gun sales and gun ownership.

    Kopel argues that because this provision refers only to the Attorney General, it must thereforeauthorize any other governmental entity to create a registry, including the Army or the

    Department of Health and Human Services.Response: Federal law expressly and repeatedly prohibits the creation of a gun registry by any

    government entity or political subdivision, including through the NICS background checkdatabase.[1] And the Manchin-Toomey Amendment leaves those provisions intact.

    Response: Moreover, both the Secretary of the Army[2] and the Secretary of Health and

    Human Services[3] are specifically prohibited from creating a registry of gun ownership.Response: Finally, Kopel completely ignores the fact that Section 123 of the Manchin-Toomey

    Amendment that makes it a 15-year federal felony to compile or create such a registry is not

    directed simply at the Attorney General or Department of Justice employees; it is directed at

    any person, and makes it a general federal crime to misuse any of the required federal recordkeeping under the Gun Control Act for this purpose no matter who attempts do it.

    Kopels false claim regarding the use of retired dealer records to create a registry : Kopel

    argues that the Amendment authorizes the centralization of retired dealer records because it onlyexpressly prohibits the creation of a registry from the records of a person with a valid, current

    license under this chapter. He argues that because ATF already has these records under its

    control, it can easily centralize them into a registry.Response: The existing prohibitions on government registries extend to the records of retired

    dealers and while the ATF houses the records, it is prohibited from centralizing them. The

    agency has gone to considerable expense to comply with this law, maintaining the records on

    microfiche rather than in a centralized database. Nothing in the Amendment would alter thetreatment of these records.

    Kopels false interstate travel claim: The Amendments interstate travel prohibition clarifies

    current law. The Amendment provides that regardless of state law, people in transit may carrytheir unloaded, locked guns across state lines, unless they are traveling with the intent to commita crime punishable by a term of imprisonment of more than a year. Kopel argues that this

    language makes it unlawful for people to travel through states where possession of a gun without

    a permit is crime punishable by a term of imprisonment of more than one year.Response: The Amendment specifically states that it supersedes state law which means that

    state laws regarding the possession and carrying of firearms are pre-empted for people traveling

    through the state pursuant to this provision.[4] A state law prohibiting possession without a

    permit will be superseded by the federal law allowing interstate travel.Response: The Amendment explicitly bars arrest or detention for violations of state law

    relating to the possession, transportation, or carrying of firearms or ammunition unless there is

    sufficient cause to believe that the person is not behaving lawfully under the bills interstate

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    travel provisions. In other words, individuals complying with the amended interstate travel

    terms will not be in violation of state law.

    [1] 18 USC 926(a); PL 112-55 Division B, Title II. In addition to express prohibitions on the creation of a registry,

    federal statute requires that records generated by successful background checks be destroyed, and regulation clarifies

    that the destruction must take place within 24 hours. 18 USC 922(t)(2)(C); 28 C.F.R. 25.9(b)(1)(ii). Another federalregulation specifically states that the NICS background check database cannot be used to create a registry. 28 C.F.R.

    25.9(b)(3).[2] Ike Skelton National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2011, Pub. Law 111-383, Section 1062(a)

    (2010).[3] Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, Pub. L. No. 12-110, Sec. 10101(e), March 23, 2010. [4] The section applies notwithstanding any provision of any law (including a rule or regulation) of a State or any

    political or subdivision thereof.