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1 | Page Knoedler Seat Rebuild By: Israel Stone (aka IceChickenx) Email: [email protected] Since there wasn’t a rebuild/instruction manual on how to rebuild my “new” Knoedler Seat, I decided to create one in the effort that other’s would find it easier to source parts and ultimately achieve less pain in their backside. I will share pictures of what it looked like before sandblasting, the tools I needed and created to press old, rusty hardware out of the main sub-assemblies and finally what it looked like when all put together. Before purchasing this seat, I wanted to make sure I could even buy parts for it. I put together a spreadsheet of all the part numbers and where to get them. The spreadsheet is shown in Table 1 below. Table 1. Parts to Recondition a Knoedler Seat P/n Description Vendor Qty. Needed Unit Order Qty. Unit Price Subtotal ABC537 Seat Bearing Steiner 4 ea 4 ea 14.3 57.2 89895K147 Tubing, .402 ID, 1/2" OD, 3ft long, 304 CRES McMaster Carr 14 in 1 ea 22.21 22.21 9517K212 Steel Sheet, .25 thk, 3/4 wide, 24" long McMaster Carr 1 ea 1 ea 20.64 20.64 98017A199 Washer, ID .039, OD .63, .02-.04 thk, 300 Series CRES McMaster Carr 12 ea 1 pkg 5.66 5.66 90313A114 Washer, ID 13/32, OD 1.25, .04-.06 thk, 18-8 CRES McMaster Carr 12 ea 1 pkg 6.91 6.91 93190A365 Screw, Hex Head Cap, 3/8-24 x 1.25, 316 CRES McMaster Carr 4 ea 1 pkg 6.49 6.49 94140A151 Locknut, Expanding, 3/8-24, 9/16 W, 9/32 H, 18-8 CRES McMaster Carr 6 ea 2 pkg 14.65 29.3 451081 Hex Head Cap Screw, 3/8-24 X 7 1/2 Long, Grade 8 Bolt Max 2 ea 2 ea 5.11 10.22 5829 ST Monroe Sensa-trac Shock NAPA Auto 1 ea 1 ea 30.43 30.43 TOTAL 189.06 www.ntractorclub.com

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Knoedler Seat Rebuild

By: Israel Stone (aka IceChickenx)

Email: [email protected]

Since there wasn’t a rebuild/instruction manual on how to rebuild my “new” Knoedler Seat, I decided to create one in the effort that other’s would find it easier

to source parts and ultimately achieve less pain in their backside. I will share pictures of what it looked like before sandblasting, the tools I needed and created

to press old, rusty hardware out of the main sub-assemblies and finally what it looked like when all put together.

Before purchasing this seat, I wanted to make sure I could even buy parts for it. I put together a spreadsheet of all the part numbers and where to get them.

The spreadsheet is shown in Table 1 below.

Table 1. Parts to Recondition a Knoedler Seat

P/n Description Vendor

Qty.

Needed Unit

Order

Qty. Unit Price Subtotal

ABC537 Seat Bearing Steiner 4 ea 4 ea 14.3 57.2

89895K147 Tubing, .402 ID, 1/2" OD, 3ft long, 304 CRES McMaster Carr 14 in 1 ea 22.21 22.21

9517K212 Steel Sheet, .25 thk, 3/4 wide, 24" long McMaster Carr 1 ea 1 ea 20.64 20.64

98017A199 Washer, ID .039, OD .63, .02-.04 thk, 300 Series CRES McMaster Carr 12 ea 1 pkg 5.66 5.66

90313A114 Washer, ID 13/32, OD 1.25, .04-.06 thk, 18-8 CRES McMaster Carr 12 ea 1 pkg 6.91 6.91

93190A365 Screw, Hex Head Cap, 3/8-24 x 1.25, 316 CRES McMaster Carr 4 ea 1 pkg 6.49 6.49

94140A151 Locknut, Expanding, 3/8-24, 9/16 W, 9/32 H, 18-8 CRES McMaster Carr 6 ea 2 pkg 14.65 29.3

451081 Hex Head Cap Screw, 3/8-24 X 7 1/2 Long, Grade 8 Bolt Max 2 ea 2 ea 5.11 10.22

5829 ST Monroe Sensa-trac Shock NAPA Auto 1 ea 1 ea 30.43 30.43

TOTAL 189.06

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The first priority was sourcing the shock. After an exhaustive search on www.ntractorclub.com a shock was purchased

from NAPA Autoparts, Monroe 5829 ST. Next were the bearings. There were three sources for the ABC547 bearings. I

settled on www.steinertractor.com. They were expensive, but without the shock and bearings, this seat becomes

worthless. The rest was “regular” hardware, most purchased from www.mcmaster.com (McMaster Carr). Other piece

parts and consumables for this project include grease zerk fittings, grease, PB Blaster, suitable degreaser (I chose

gasoline). Lastly, the final ingredients are sweat, blood and beer.

I took a lot of pictures and I will try to illustrate the steps I took to recondition the seat.

All the bearings were

seized or completely gone

Shock was worn out.

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1.

Typical block of wood. I do

replace it later with something a

little different.

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Notice how the original

holes have been enlarged…

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After a good soaking in PB, I was able to

extract the old shock from the spring assy.

Nasty!

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I had to cut one end off

and use a larger press to

remove this sleeve/bolt

combo.

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My method for pressing out the old bearings

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Tool I created to press out a shaft in the seat. Pics to follow.

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Now for the “fun” part. I had to recreate some parts because they were to worn. Remember this bracket?

I had to reshape it from metal stock. It was p/n 9517K212.

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…and drill new holes.

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I also had to recreate a sleeve of some sort. This goes inside where the grease fittings reside. Remember I had to use a larger press to get the old bolt/sleeve assy out? This tube ID and OD fit perfect. The holes were drilled in the side to accommodate the grease fittings. This tube was p/n 89895K147.

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Barrel shot of tube installed and grease fitting

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These bolts, p/n 451081 were a little too long and didn’t have to be Grade 8. But it was all I could find to meet the length.

Washer p/n 90313A114

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Took care of that!

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Screw p/n 93190A365 Washer p/n 98017A199

Nut p/n 94140A151

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Gotta love Anti-seize

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Seat is all finished!!!

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Final touches…tying on the

cushion.

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Installed on the Tractor

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Comparison measurement:

As measured from the Dash

Before:

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Comparison measurement:

As measured from the Dash.

After:

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In conclusion, I am extremely happy with how it turned out. I am no longer fatigued (relatively speaking) after being out

in the field all day. My back no longer hurts either.

If you notice, most of the hardware I spec’d was Stainless Steel (CRES). I chose CRES b/c I hate rust!! And never want to

deal with it again on this seat assembly.

Some folks complain the seat sits too far forward. As a data point, I’m 6’, 0” and 200 lbs. I am very comfortable using

this seat.

Please feel free to contact me with any questions.

Thanks!

Israel Stone

Stonehaven Farms, Taft, TN

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