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Population Aging and Intergenerational Transfers in Brasil Cassio M.Turra Demography Department Cedeplar, UFMG

Population Aging and Intergenerational Transfers in Brasil Cassio M.Turra Demography Department Cedeplar, UFMG

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Page 1: Population Aging and Intergenerational Transfers in Brasil Cassio M.Turra Demography Department Cedeplar, UFMG

Population Aging and Intergenerational Transfers in Brasil

Cassio M.TurraDemography Department

Cedeplar, UFMG

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Value of National Transfer Accounts

• Fundamental question: how do different age groups, including children and the elderly, acquire and use economic resources?

• How are access and use to resources influenced by changes in population age structure:– demographic dividends and economic growth?– generational equity?– financial markets and asset prices?– sustainability of public and private support systems?

• What policies should be considered to best prepare for coming demographic change?

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Gap in National Statistical Systems

• System of National Accounts and other aggregate economic data provide little information about how different generations or age groups produce, consume, share, and accumulate economic resources.

• National Transfer Accounts fills this gap.

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Global Age Transition

• Need for NTA is great because of rapid changes in population age structure.

• Low income countries: Share of children in decline and share in working ages is rising

• High income countries: Share in working ages‐ is in decline and share of elderly is rising.

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The Generational Economy

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Per capita public and private transfers, and asset-based resource flows by age: Brazil, 1996

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-8,000

-6,000

-4,000

-2,000

0

2,000

4,000

6,000

8,000

Public transfers Private transfers Asset-based reallocations

Age

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7Ronald Lee and Andrew Mason, Dec 9, 2010

Jornal Valor EconômicoJulho de 2000

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Most importante findings• Public transfers biased toward the elderly• Public transfers are the main source of consumption at older

ages, regardless of SES• Among children, public transfers concentrated among lower

SES groups. Private transfers to higher SES groups.• Rapid reduction in poverty among the elderly, but not among

children. Period x Cohort effects!• Inequity: over the life cycle, younger generations paid for the

expansion of transfers to currently elderly

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Most importante findings• Large fiscal pressures (ignored in the last 10 years. Now the

issue is back!)• First demographic dividend started in 1970 and will end by

2030. Expansion of LFPR may give another decade• Second demographic dividend (productivity and savings):

negative?

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50 years of elderly empowerment in Brazil

with Wajnman and Marteleto

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Proportional changes in the composition of adults by income deciles, 1985-2008

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 100.40

0.60

0.80

1.00

1.20

1.40

1.60 young adultsmiddle-age adultselderly

Deciles

Prop

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Head, spouse, siblings Head’s generation

A classification for elderly (60+) households1. Living alone2. One generation household: elderly living only

with a collateral kin

3. Multi-generational household: elderly living in hhs with at least two generations

Generations in the Household Classification according to the perspective of the elderly

parents, grandparents, in-laws older generationHead, spouse, siblings Head’s generation

children, grandchildren, great-grand children younger generation

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1970 1980 1991 2000 2010 -

10.00

20.00

30.00

40.00

50.00

60.00

70.00

80.00

90.00

100.00

Multi-generational household

One generation household

Living Alone14%

32%

Increasing prevalence of elderly living alone or in one generation households

8%

27%

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Proportion of people 60+ living alone over time in selected countries

1960 1970 1980 1991 2000 20100

5

10

15

20

25

30

BrazilArgentinaMexicoChileUruguayColômbiaUnited States

Census Year (IPUMS DATA)

%

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Generations in the Household

Classification according to the

perspective of the elderly

Group 1

parents, grandparents, in-laws older generationHead, spouse, siblings, in-laws Head’s generation

children, grandchildren, great-grand children

younger generation

Group 2

parents, grandparents, in-laws older generationhead, spouse, siblings, in-laws Head’s generation

children, grandchildren, great-grand children

younger generation

Group 3parents, grandparents, in-laws older generationhead, spouse, siblings, in-laws Head’s generation

children, grandchildren, great-grand children younger generation

A classification for multi-generational households

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1970 1980 1991 2000 2010 -

10.00

20.00

30.00

40.00

50.00

60.00

70.00

80.00

90.00

100.00

Older generation

Head’s generation

Younger generation

62% 77%

Increasing prevalence of elderly living as the head generation in multi-generational hhs

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1970 1980 1991 2000 2010 -

10.00

20.00

30.00

40.00

50.00

60.00

70.00

80.00

Head

Older

Increasing share of income earned by older and head’s generation in the multi-gerational hhs

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Less than primary

Primary Secondary University -

10.00

20.00

30.00

40.00

50.00

60.00

70.00

Living Alone

Less than primary

Primary Secondary University -

10.00

20.00

30.00

40.00

50.00

60.00

70.00

One generation

Less than primary Primary Secondary University -

10.00

20.00

30.00

40.00

50.00

60.00

70.00 Multi-generational

1970 x 2010: Share of living alone higher in any educ group Less educated have lower prevalence of multigen hh

Convergence?

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Less than primary

Primary Secondary University -

10.00 20.00 30.00 40.00 50.00 60.00 70.00 80.00 90.00

100.00

∆ 28% 18% 21%

4%

1970 x 2010: Increasing prevalence of elderly living as the head generation in multi-generation households

Particularly among the less educated

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Less than primary

Primary Secondary University -

10.00

20.00

30.00

40.00

50.00

60.00

70.00

9x

1970 x 2010: in multi-gen hhs, when the elderly is in the older generation, share of income is increasing

Particularly among the less educated

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Summary• Elderly are more likely to live alone or in one generation hhs,

particularly the less educated

• There has been increasing financial independence among elderly living in multi-generational hhs

• But we have not looked at the consumption side yet!

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Intergenerational Public Transfers: 1996-2011

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0.02

0.03

0.04

0.05

0.06

0.07

0.08

1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011

Pensions , Public Servants

Health

Education

Pensions, Private Workers

Public Expenditures (share of GDP), Brazil, 1996-2008

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Educationenrollmentby year& SES

Social Securitycoverageby year& SES

0.00

10.00

20.00

30.00

40.00

50.00

60.00

70.00

80.00

90.00

100.00

1960 1970 1980 1991 2000

Lowest SES

Highest SES

Education, 7-14

0.00

10.00

20.00

30.00

40.00

50.00

60.00

70.00

80.00

90.00

100.00

1960 1970 1980 1991 2000

Lowest SES

Highest SES

Social Security, 60+

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-0.40

-0.20

0.00

0.20

0.40

0.60

0.80

1.00

1.20

0 4 8 12 16 20 24 28 32 36 40 44 48 52 56 60 64 68 72 76 80 84 88

1996

1996, excluding pensions for public servants

2004

2011

2011, excluding pensions for public servants

Net Public Transfers (YoLYs) by Age, Brazil, selected years

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(0.5000)

-

0.5000

1.0000

1.5000

2.0000

(0.1500)

(0.1000)

(0.0500)

-

0.0500

0.1000

- 5 10 15 20 25 30 35 40 45 50 55 60 65 70 75 80 85 90

Prop

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hang

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e st

ruct

ure

Abso

lute

var

iatio

n N

et P

ublic

Tra

nsfe

rs (

YoLY

s)

Age

2011-1996, Net Public Transfers Population Age Structure

Absolute variation in net public transfers (YoLYs) by age, and proportional change in the age distribution, Brazil, 2008-1996

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Actual Scenario1996 2004 2011

0-19 1.91 2.30 3.37 20-59 (6.96) (8.40) (10.21) 60-90 5.06 6.11 6.84

Ratio 60-90/0-19 2.65 2.66 2.03

Counterfactual scenario if population age structure as of 1996

0-19 1.91 2.39 3.53 20-59 (6.96) (7.16) (7.77) 60-90 5.06 4.65 4.07

Ratio 60-90/0-19 2.65 1.94 1.15

Aggregate net public transfers for large age groups(% of the GDP): actual and simulated scenarios,

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CN

CR

GE HU

IN

JP

MX

SV

ASSK

SP

SW

TW

UK

US

URAU

R² = 0.6311

0

0.1

0.2

0.3

0.4

0.5

0.6

0.7

0.8

0.9

0 0.02 0.04 0.06 0.08 0.1 0.12 0.14 0.16 0.18 0.2

Net

pub

lic tr

ansf

ers t

o th

e el

derly

(60-

90)

Net public transfers to children (0-19)

Brazil, 1996-2011excluding public servants

Brazil, 1996-2011

Net public transfers to children (0-19) and elderly (60-90) for a recent year in 17 countries and selected years for Brazil.

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Envelhecimento populacional no Brasil:

Bônus ou ônus?

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Respostas Recorrentes (1996-2013!)

• Não há problema de financiamento dos benefícios para idosos. • Com o pré-sal cresceremos a taxas suficientemente altas para cobrirmos

os custos do envelhecimento.• O Brasil é um país que trata muito mal seus idosos. A questão não é

como manter, mas como aumentar os benefícios.• O problema está no pagamento dos juros. • Uma reforma profunda da previdência social resolveria o problema

imediatamente.• O tempo político é distinto do tempo demográfico.

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50

55

60

65

70

75

80

85

90

95

100

0%

5%

10%

15%

20%

25%

30%

35%

POADR

OADR

Age RLE<15

OADR & POADR, Brazil, 1955-2045

Turra & Rios-Neto 2015

See also: Lutz, Scherbov, Sanderson

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Discussão• Sistemas de suporte do idoso (previdência, saúde e cuidados de longa

duração) têm que considerar envelhecimento populacional e famílias menores. Mercado: pacto intergeracional na saúde suplementar

• Definição de idoso tem que ser flexível• Quanto antes forem as reformas, melhor: desigualdade intergeracional

poderá ser um problema• Migração Internacional

• Produtividade precisará crescer mais rápido (qualidade na educação, infra-estrutura, ambiente de negócios, economia aberta)

• Incentivos para poupança, educação financeira

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O tamanho da nossa ignorância

• Diferenciais de mortalidade por renda, educação...

• Determinantes da saúde e mortalidade no ciclo de vida

• Probabilidades de transição no ciclo de vida

• Compressão da morbidade

• Transições de saúde e decisões de aposentadoria

• Transições de saúde e transferências intra e inter-domiciliares

• Mudanças nas políticas e decisões de aposentadoria

• Uso do tempo e cuidadores

• Formação de poupança no ciclo de vida

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The Data are coming!!!