aRniSnuli gamocemis mrCeveli da konsultanti,

religiur sakiTxebSi

medinas islamis universitetis

kursdamTavrebuli: veisal orujovi (gurji)

تقريظ و مستشار للترمجة و الطباعة،

خريج اجلامعة اإلسالمية باملدينة املنورة:

ويصل أروجوف جورجي

mTargmneli:

abu anvar al-jurji

مترجم: أبو أنور جورجي

mTargmneli-redaqtorebi:

abdurrahman fareuliZe (gurji)

muhammed ali mirza

-تدقيق و مراجعة:

عبد الرمحن براوليدزى جرجي و حممد علي مرزا.

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Seixi ahmad didaTi

mTargmnelis winasityvaoba

mowyale da mwyalobeli RmerTis saxeliT

Tqvens winaSea ahmad didaTis wignis, “ieso islamSi” Targmani. miuxedavad farTod gavrcelebuli warmodgenebisa, TiTqosda islami antiqristianuli moZRvrebaa, ieso, RmerTma dalocos igi, islamSi erT-erTi ZiriTadi figuraa. igi erT-erTia islamis xuTi udidesi macnidan, igi atarebs mesiis (cxebulis, qristes) tituls da dedamis mariamTan erTad islamSi udidesi pativiT sargeblobs. swored am sakiTxs exeba es wigni.

wignis avtori, Seixi ahmad husain didaTi (22 ramadani 1336 – 3 rajabi 1426 ww. hijriT/ 1 ivlisi 1918 – 8 agvisto 2005 ww. grigorianuliT) induri warmoSobis samxreT afrikeli mqadagebeli iyo. mas ekuTvnis mravali sajaro leqcia Tu wigni SedarebiTi religiaTmcodneobis sakiTxebze. aseve monawileobda sajaro debatebSi sxva mqadageblebTan – anis SuruSTan, jimi suogartTan, joS makdauelTan, stenli siobergTan, erik bokTan da sxvebTan. Seixi didaTi cnobili iyo Tavisi ganswavlulobiT rogorc islamis, aseve iudaizmisa da qristianobis wminda werilebSi. igi Seix rahmaTullah al-qairanavis (1233 – 1308/ 1818 - 1891 ww.) skolis mimdevaria, romelic aseve gamoirCeoda am werilebis Rrma codniT. Seix didaTis sajaro leqciebisa da wignebis gacnoba bevrs Sehmatebs adamians, romelic SedarebiTi religiaT mcodneobiTaa dainteresebuli.wignSi islamuri salavaTis, anu dalocvis, Semoklebuli forma aris gamoyenebuli. bibliuri

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citatebi moyvanilia saqarTvelos sapatriarqos mier 1989 wels gamocemuli bibliis Targmanidan.

vimedovnebT, es mcire naSromi sikeTis momtani a R m o C n d e b a r el i g i u r i s a k i T x e b i T dainteresebulTaTvis.RmerTs SevTxovT mowyalebasa da pirdapir gzas!

abu anvar al-jurji

13 zu l-ya'da 1435/ 8 seqtemberi 2014 w.

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Tavi pirveli: qristianul-muslimuri pasuxebi

satelevizio debatebi

qristianoba da islami - aseTi debatebi gaimarTa gadacemaSi -ze, Cross Questions arx SABC1983 wlis 5 ivniss. debatis dasasruls wamyvanma, mister bil Calmersma, Tqva: vfiqrob, am diskusiis safuZvelze SeiZleba iTqvas, rom islamSi bevrad meti yuradReba eTmoba qristianobis winamZRvars, vidre qristianobaSi - islamis winamZRvars. ramdenad mniSvnelovania es, Tqveni gadasaw yvetia, -mayurebelo, magram ukve kargia, rom Cven vsaubrobT amaze.

bili - rogorc mas uwodeben yovelgvari formalobebis gareSe mis yvela gadacemaSi, aris Zalian momxiblavi da Tavmdabali. igi Seesabameba im portrets, rogorc brZeni yurani aRwers karg qristians:

“... da naxav, rom uaxloesni morwmuneTa mimarT arian isini, vinc amboben - Cven varT qristianebi! maT Soris arian swavlulni da berebi, romlebic ar ampartavneben” (al-ma'ida, 5:82)

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ieso da misi statusi

iqneb muslimebi gadacemaSi cdilobdnen mayurebelTa guli moegoT diplomatiurobiT, an sulac TvalTmaqcobiT? aranairad! isini mxolod ambobdnen imas, rac uzenaesma brZen yuranSi ubrZana maT rom eTqvaT. rogorc muslimebs, maT ar hqoniaT arCevani. maT Tqves: Cven, muslimebs, gvwams, rom ieso aris erT-erTi udidesi RvTis gamogzavnil macneTagan, rom is aris mesia (qriste, cxebuli), igi daibada saswaulebrivad mamakacis Carevis gareSe, igi STaberavda sicocxles mkvdrebs RmerTis ZaliT da kurnavda brmebsa da keTrovnebs aseve RmerTis ZaliT. muslimi ver iqneba muslimi, Tu mas ar swams iesosi!

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sasiamovno gakvirveba

mayurebelTa 90%-ze meti sasiamovnod gakvirvebuli darCa, mainc skeptikurad Tumcauyurebda am yvelafers. isini yurebs ar ujerebdnen da Tvlidnen, rom muslimebi cdilobdnen xalxis gulis mogebas - Tavisi qristiani TanamemamuleebisTvis Tavis moqonvas - Tu muslimebi ityodnen ramdenime karg sityvas iesoze, sapasuxod qristianebi ramdenime karg sityvas ityodnen muhammadze amgvari saqcieli - xeli , ملسو هيلع هللا ىلصxels bans - samarcxvino da TvalTmaqcuri iqneboda muslimebisTvis.

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CaTesili gaucxoeba

Cven ver davadanaSaulebT qristianebs

maT skepticizmSi - maT ase aswavlidnen saukuneebis

ganmavlobaSi. isini aRzardes ise, rom efiqraT

cudi muhammadze, , da mis religiaze. rogor ملسو هيلع هللا ىلص

zustad Tqva Tomas karlailma 150 wlis win:

tyuilebi, romliTac garemoicves es kaci, mxolod

CvenTvisvea samarcxvino. Cven, muslimebic,

garkveulwilad damnaSaveni varT amaSi - Cven

araferi mniSvnelovani ar gagvikeTebia, rom

mogveSorebina es sicruis ablabuda.

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qristianobis okeane

samxreT afrika qristianobis okeanea. magaliTad, Tu libiis mosaxleobaSi muslimTa wili afrikis kontinentze udidesia, samxreT afrika qristianTa igive maCvenebliT liderobs. am qristianobis okeaneSi muslimebi mosaxleobis 2%-s Seadgenen. Cven varT uxmo umciresoba - statistikurad, politikurad, ekonomikurad - erT kacs, magaliTad openhaimers, SeuZlia Seisyidos mTeli Cveni avladideba. ase rom, Tundac gvecada "Tavis moqonva", SeiZleba es bevrs gaego CvenTvis, magram ara! Cven unda gamovacxadoT Cveni uflis neba, gamovacxadoT simarTle, mogvwons is Tu ara. rogorc ieso ambobda: “SeicaniT WeSmariteba, da WeSmariteba gagaTavisuflebT Tqven” (ioane, 8:32).

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Tavi meore: ieso yuranSi

ra ar ician qristianebma

qristianebma ar ician, rom is gulTbili damokidebuleba, rasac muslimebi avlenen iesosa da dedamisis, mariamis mimarT, mSvidoba maT orives, saTaves maTi rwmenis safuZvlidan - brZeni yuranidan iRebs. maT ar ician, rom muslimi iesos xsenebisas misTvis specialur dalocvas warmoTqvams - mSvidoba mas.

qristianebma ar ician, rom ieso ocdaxuTjeraa moxseniebuli yuranSi 'isas saxeliT. magaliTad:

"Cven vuboZeT 'isas, mariamis Zes, cxadi niSnebi da ganvamtkiceT igi wminda suliT" (al-bayara, 2:87)

"mariam! ueWvelad, RmerTma gaxara Sen mis sityvaze, romlis saxelia mesia 'isa, Ze (qriste)mariamisa..." (aal ''imran, 3:45)

"mesia 'isa iyo macne RmerTisa..." (an-nisa, 4:171"... da gavgzavneT Cven wina macneTa kvalad

'isa, Ze mariamisa" (al-ma'ida, 5:46)"zaqaria, iahia, 'isa da iliasi - isini iyvnen

marTalTaganni" (al-an'am, 6:85)

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ieso da misi titulebi

garda imisa, rom ieso ocdaxuTjer saxeliT moixsenieba brZen yuranSi, igi aseve moxseniebulia Semdegi titulebiT: ibn mariam - rac niSnavs mariamis Zes, masihi - anu mesia, qriste, cxebuli. 'abdullah - msaxuri RvTisa da rasulullah - macne RvTisa.

igi moixsenieba rogorc "RmerTis sityva", "RvTiuri suli", "RvTiuri niSani" da mravali sxva Rirseuli epiTetiT, romlebic brZeni yuranis 15 sxvadasxva suraSia mocemuli. brZeni yurani Rirs pativs maigebs am udides macnes RvTisas, da muslimebic warsuli 14 saukunis ganmavlobaSi aseve iqceodnen. erTaderTi uaryofiTi miTiTebac ar aris mTels yuransa Tu islamur wyaroebSi iesoze, romelzec yvelaze eWvian qristiansac ki SeuZlia ukmayofileba gamoTqvas.

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misi saxeli

rogorc aRvniSneT, brZeni yurani iesos 'isas uwodebs. da es saxeli gamoiyeneba mis sxva titulebze ufro xSirad, radgan es iyo misi sakuTari saxeli. arabulad misi saxeli JRers rogorc 'isa, xolo arameulsa da ivriTze - ieSua da iehoSua. Semdgom berZnulad da laTinurad Targmnes, xolo iqidan sxva enebze da maT Soris qarTulad gadatanis procesSi iehoSua gadaiqca iesod.

saxeli ieSua metad gavrcelebuli ebrauli

saxeli iyo - igi samocjer da metjerac gvxvdeba

bibliis pirvel wignSi - dabadeba. aseve iyo

yvelaze cota erTi adamiani saxeliT ieSua,

romelic iesos gasamarTlebis dros sinedrionis

sxdomas eswreboda.ebraeli istorikosi, ioseb flaviusi, Tavis

"siZveleTa wignSi" ocze met sxvadasxva adamians

axsenebs am saxeliT. axal aRTqmaSic aris

moxseniebuli sxvadasxva pirovnebebi am saxeliT -

magaliTad (saqmeni, mogvi da jadosani bar ieSua

13:6) da i (kolaselTa, ieSua, iustusad wodebul

4:11)es yvelani sxva pirovnebebi arian, iesosgan

gansxvavebuli. magram saxelis gardaqmnam da

formis Secvlam igi unikaluri gaxada da igi nel-

nela gansakuTrebuli gaxda meore saukunidan -

ebraelTa Soris igi cudi reputaciis mqone saxelad

iqca, romelic mkrexelsa da ebraelobis mters

erqva, xolo qristianTaTvis igi RmerTis sakuTari

saxeli iyo. muslimi uyoymanod daarqmevs Tavis

vaJs 'isas, radgan es saxeli RmerTis gulwrfeli

da keTilmorwmune msaxuris saxelia.

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Tavi mesame: deda da vaJi

mariami yuranSi

iesos dabadeba yuranis or suraSia aRwerili aal 'imranSi (3) da mariamSi (19). manam, sanam mis dabadebas aRwers, yurani mogviTxrobs mariamis ambavsa da im didebul mdgomareobaze, rac ukavia mas islamSi.

“da uTxres angelozebma - mariam! RmerTma amogirCia Sen da gangwminda Sen, da aRgamaRla Sen samyaroTa qalebze" (aal 'imran, 3:42)

amaRlebuli mTeli samyaros qalebze - amgvari statuss qristianuli bibliac ki ar aniWebs mariams. yuranis aia grZeldeba Semdegnairad: "mariam! emsaxure ufals gulmSvidad: Tayvani eci da muxli moiyare mis winaSe mis msaxurebTan erTad" (aal 'imran, 3:43)

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RvTiuri gamocxadeba

ra aris safuZveli am didebuli aiebisa,

romelic dedanSi, arabulad wakiTxuli, adamianebi

cremlebamde mihyavs? 44-e aia gvixsnis: "es nawilia im gaumJRavnebeli ambebisa, romelsac

gardmogivlenT Sen (muhammad), radgan Sen ar iyavi

maTTan, roca maT wili hyares, Tu vin iqneboda

mariamis meurve, arc maSin, roca cxare kamaTi

gamarTes "(wilisyris Semdgom) (aal 'imran, 3:44)

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mariamis dabadeba

iesos bebia dedis mxridan, ana, uSvilo iyo.

igi cremlmoreuli evedreboda ufals, mieca

misTvis Svili, romelsac igi RvTis samsaxurSi

aRzrdida da taZars Seswiravda.ufalma upasuxa mis vedrebas da daibada

mariami. ana gakvirvebuli iyo, radgan igi vaJis

dabadebas eloda, magram gogona Sva. xolo gogona

aranairad ar iyo biWis Tanaswori - mas taZris

msaxurad ar aiyvanen - fiqrobda igi. meore mxriv,

Tavisi aRTqmac axsovda da elodeboda im dRes,

rodesac mariami Tavad gadawyvetda mis beds.roca zdrasrulobis asakma moawia, anam

waiyvana Tavisi erTaderTi qaliSvili taZarSi,

sadac is taZris msaxuri unda gamxdariyo. taZarSi

yovel mRvdels surda gamxdariyo mariamis

aRmzrdeli, amitom maT wili yares. wilisyram uwia

zaqarias, magram mxolod danarCen moZRvrebTan

didi kamaTis Semdeg SeZlo uflebebis dacva.Tavisi

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gamocxadebis wyaro

aseTi iyo es ambavi. magram saidan gaigo

muhammadma, , amis Sesaxeb? igi iyo ummii, anu wera-ملسو هيلع هللا ىلص

kiTxvis ucodinari. magram uzenaesi aZlevs mas

pasuxs am kiTxvaze aiiT. zemoT aRniSnuliara! - ityvis skeptikosi - es muhammadis, , ملسو هيلع هللا ىلص

mier SeTxzuli ambavia, man gadmoiwera Tavisi

gamocxadebebi iudevelTa da qristianTa

teqstebidan. man gamoigona es!Cven kargad viciT da mtkiced gvwams, rom

yurani mTlianad aris ucvleli RmerTis sityva.

amis miuxedavad, Cven vecdebiT gaviazroT zogierTi

Tvalsazrisi skeptikosebisgan da igives veliT

maTganac.Cven vekiTxebiT oponentebs: - gjeraT Tu ara,

rom muhammadi, ملسو هيلع هللا ىلص, iyo arabi? amas mxolod umecari

ar daTanxmdeba. am SemTxvevaSi ki myisve daasruleT

saubari, radgan umecarTan kamaTSi veranair

sargebels ver miiRebT - igi an sijiutiT gaitans

Tavisas, an kamaTs CxubSi gadazrdis.

xolo maT, vinc daeTanxmeba muhammadis, ملسو هيلع هللا ىلص, arabobas,

Cven vusvamT kiTxvas: arabi mimarTavs arabebs. igi

ar esaubreboda indoel, Cinel an afrikel

muslimebs, aramed Tavis xalxs, arabebs, imis

miuxedavad, sjerodaT maT misi Tu ara, man

gamoacxada, rom mariami, iesos deda, amaRlebuli

iqna samyaros qalebze, yvela sxva qalze. ara

Tavisi deda an coli, an qaliSvili, an sxva

romelime arabi qali, aramed ebraeli! SeuZlia

vinmes es agvixsnas? radgan yvelasTvis sakuTari

deda, coli da qaliSvili yvela sxva qalze

amaRlebulia.

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ratom moaniWebda amnair did pativs

muhammadi, , ucxo qals? Tan ebraels - im ers, ملسو هيلع هللا ىلص

roomelic mis xalxs zemodan uyurebda TiTqmis

sami aTasi wlis manZilze? iseve rogorc dRes

dahyureben zemodan Tavis arab mezoblebs!

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sara da agari

ebraelebma ar gauSves Sansi, daemcirebinaT

arabebi bibliaSi, sadac isini Tumca abraamis

Svilebad arian warmodgenilni, rogorc ebraelebi,

magram isini abraamisa da misi "mxevlis", agaris

vaJis, ismaelis STamomavlebi arian, xolo Tavad

ebraelebi - abraamisa da misi kanonieri colis,

saras vaJis - isaakis. amgvarad, isini arabebs dabal

safexurze mdgom xalxad ganixilaven.am fonze, SeuZlia vinmes axsnas, ratom aqebs

da pativs miagebs muhammadi, , ebrael qals? pasuxi ملسو هيلع هللا ىلص

martivia - mas ar hqonia arCevani, rom Tavisi

survilebis Sesabamisad elaparaka. "es mxolod

gamocxadebaa, romelic gardmoevlineba" (an-najm,

53:4)

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sura mariami

brZen yuranSi aris erT-erTi sura, anu Tavi,

romelsac hqvia "mariami", swored iesos dedis,

mariamis sapativsacemod. aseTi pativi mas wilad ar

xvdomia qristianul bibliaSi - misi aTeulobiT

wigni sxvaTa saxelebs atarebs, avtorebisa Tu

savaraudo avtorebisa - maTesi, markozis, lukasi,

petresi, ioanesi da a.S.Tu muhammadi, , iyo yuranis avtori, igi iesos ملسو هيلع هللا ىلص

dedasTan erTad moixseniebda masSi dedamiss aminas,

Tavis meuRles xadijas, Tavis qaliSvils fatimas,

magram ara! es ase ar aris, yurani ar aris misi

dawerili.

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Tavi meoTxe: xareba

"hei – Tqves angelozebma - mariam! ueWvelad,

RmerTma gaxara Sen mis sityvaze, romlis saxelia

mesia 'isa, Ze mariamisa. pativdebuli (qriste)

wuTisofelsa da zesTasofelSi, da RmerTTan

miaxloebulTagani." (aal 'imran, 3:45)"RmerTTan miaxloebulTagani" - ara

fizikurad da geografiulad, aramed sulierad.

SeadareT: [ieso] “da dajda RmrTis marjvniv”

(markozi, 16:19). qristianuli samyaros udidesma

nawilma arasworad gaigo es muxli, iseve rogorc

mravali sxva bibliuri muxli - isini warmoidgenen

mama RmerTs, romelic zis diad taxtze, xolo mis

xelmarjvniv misi vaJi, ieso zis.Tqven SegiZliaT warmoidginoT es suraTi? Tu

ki, maSin Tqven daSorebulxarT WeSmarit codnas

RmerTis Sesaxeb. is ar aris didwvera moxuci,

keTili Tovlis babua, misi arseba adamianis

gonebisTvis miuwvdomeli da ganuWvretelia. is

arsebobs, is namdvilia, magram is ar aris imgvari,

rac Cven SegviZlia vifiqroT, an warmovidginoT.

aRmosavlur enebSi marjvena mxare pativsacem,

gamorCeul adgils niSnavs, rasac ufro zustad

aRwers yurani - "RmerTTan miaxloebulTagani". es

aia adasturebs, rom ieso aris qriste (mesia,

cxebuli). da is aris sityva, romelic RmerTma

mariams uboZa. xolo qristianebi xedaven am

sityvebSi im mniSvnelobebs, rasac isini ar atareben

- maT miaCniaT, rom qriste unda iyos gankacebuli

RmerTi, xolo RmerTis sityva - Tavad RmerTi.

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qriste ar aris saxeli

sityva qriste aris berZnuli Targmani

ebrauli sityvisa maSiax da arabuli sityvisa masih.

fuZe am sityvisa aris masaha, rac niSnavs "cxebas".

mRvdelmsaxurebsa da mefeebs cxebdnen mirons maTi

aRsaydrebisa da koronaciisas. magram misi

berZnuli forma, qriste, unikalurad JRers:

mxolod iesos aRsawerad.saxarebis Sedgenisas sakuTari saxelebic

iTargmna berZnulad - magaliTad arameuli kefa

(klde) Targmnes petred, aseve Targmnes mesiac -

qristed. cxebuli berZnulad aris xristos -

saidanac warmodgeba sityva qriste yvela enaSi.

unikaluri saxeli.amgvarad, qriste niSnavs cxebuls, da cxebuli

niSnavs amaRlebuls am sityvis religiuri

mniSvnelobiT. ieso, RmerTma dalocos igi, cxebul

iqna ioanes mier, rogorc RmerTis macne. yoveli

RmerTis macne iyo cxebuli amgvarad an sxva

formiT. bibliaSi mravalgan gvxvdeba es sityva -

'ivriTze es sityvaa maSiax, maSaxa. ara mxolod

winaswarmetyvelni, mRvdelmsaxurni da mefeni

iyvnen cxebuli, aramed nivTebic ikurTxebodnen

amgvarad:"me var RmerTi beTelisa, sadac Sen zeTi scxe

svets..." (dabadeba, 31:13)"Tu cxebulma mRvdelma Sescoda..." (levianni,

4:3)"aiRo mosem mironi da scxo savanes da

yvelafers, rac masSi iyo..." (levianni, 8:10)"da Tavis cxebuls rqas aumaRlebs" (1 mefeTa

2:10)

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"ase uTxra ufalma Tavis cxebuls, kiross..."

(esaia, 45:1)"mfarveli qerubimiviT cxebuli iyavi..."

(ezekieli, 28:14) da amgvarad TiTqmis asgan

gvxvdeba es bibliaSi. ramdenjerac sityva cxebuls

SevxvdebiT bibliaSi, berZnul TargmanSi is

xristosad iqneba gadaTargmnili, da Tu igive

Targmanis Tavisuflebas gamoviyenebT, rogorc

qristianebma qnes, maSin iqneba qriste qerubimi,

qriste mRvdeli, qriste sveti da qriste kirosic

ki, warmarTi mefe...

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zogierTi gansakuTrebuli tituli

Tumca yoveli RmerTis mier gamogzavnili macne cxebulia, radgan gamorCeulia RmerTis mier, tituli masihi, anu mesia, da misi Targmani - qriste, iesos SemTxvevaSi gansakuTrebul elfers iZens rogorc islamSi, aseve qristianobaSi. aseTi rame religiaSi ucxo ar aris - SesaZloa erTi da igive tituli mraval adamians ekuTvnodes, magram igi asocirebuli iyos erT-erTTan, magaliTad "rasulu l-lahi", rac arabulad RmerTis macnes niSnavs, Tavis TavSi moiazrebs mraval RmerTis macnes, maT Soris moses (mariam, 19:51) da iesos (as-saff, 61:6), Tumca es tituli muslimebisTvis muhammadis, .sinonimuria ,ملسو هيلع هللا ىلص

yvela winaswarmetyveli, ueWvelad, RmerTis megobari iyo, magram xalilu l-lahi, anu RmerTis megobari upiratesad abraamTan asocirdeba. aseve qalimu l-lah, anu RmerTTan nasaubrebi, moses garda aravis epiTetad ar gamoiyeneba, Tumca Cven gvwams, rom RmerTi Tavis mraval macnes esaubra, maT Soris iesosa da muhammadsac, . zogierTi ملسو هيلع هللا ىلصtitulis asocireba personebTan ar niSnavs, rom is mxolod maTia da unikaluria. Cven pativs vcemT maT yovel saxelsa da epiTets.

roca kargi siaxle exara mariams (45-e aia), mas uTxres, rom mis Svils ieso erqmeoda da igi iqneboda cxebuli (qriste), RmerTis sityva, aseve "igi gaesaubreba xalxs yrmobasa Tu zrdasrulobaSi, da igi iqneba keTilSobilTagani" (aal 'imran, 3:46).

" (mariamma) ”bolos man moiyvana Tavisi Svili Tavis xalxTan da maT uTxres - mariam! Zalian ucnauri ram moxda! harunis dao! ar yofila mamaSeni bilwi kaci da arc dedaSeni yofila aseTi" (mariam, 19:27-28)

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gancvifrebuli iudevelebi

aq ar aris xuro iosebi. mdgomareoba gansakuTrebuli iyo da mariami ganmartovda udabur adgilas aRmosavleTiT (mariam, 19:16). mSobiarobis Semdeg ki igi dabrunda ukan bavSvTan erTad.

'abdullah iusuf 'ali, ganmartavs Tavis cnobil yuranis TargmanSi: xalxis gancvifrebasa da SeSfoTebas sazRvari ar hqonda. isini fiqrobdnen yvelaze uaress mariamis Sesaxeb, radgan igi daSorda Tavis ojaxs raRac droiT. da uceb - igi brundeba da xelSi bavSvi! man Searcxvina uWiravsTavisi saxleuli, religiis msaxurTa modgma.

harunis dao - amiT mariams Seaxseneben mis modgmas, mamamisisa da dedamisis ubiwo zneobas. axla ki, xalxis azriT, igi daeca da Searcxvina Tavisi winaprebis saxeli.

ra unda eqna mariams? rogor unda aexsna momxdari ise, rom xalxs mieRo misi axsnili? erTaderTi, rac man SeZlo, mxolod is, rom bavSvze miaTiTa, radgan icoda, rom igi ar iyo Cveulebrivi bavSvi. da bavSvmac uSvela mas - igi saswaulebrivad alaparakda, daicva dedamisi da Tvali auxila urwmuno sazogadoebas.

uzenaesi brZanebs Tavis wignSi:"man miuTiTa bavSvze. maT(mariamma)

(iudevelebma) Tqves: rogor davelaparakoT Cvils? man (iesom) ki Tqva: ueWvelad, me var RmerTis msaxuri, man miboZa me wigni da gamomgzavna macned. man makurTxa me, sadac ar viqnebi, mibrZana me locvad dadgoma da mowyalebis gaReba sanam viqnebi amqveynad, mibrZana me keTili viyo dedaCemis mimarT, da ar var me mCagvrelTagani. mSvidoba me im dRes, roca davibade, im dRes, roca movkvdebi da im dRes, roca aRdgenili viqnebi mkvdreTiT" (mariam, 19:29-33)

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pirveli saswaulebi

amgvarad, iesom, RmerTma dalocos igi, daicva

dedamisi misi mtrebis am saSineli braldebisgan. es

aris pirveli saswauli, rac iesom moaxdina yuranis

mixedviT - man dailaparaka CvilobaSi. SevadaroT

es saswauli pirvel saswauls bibliis mixedviT:"mesame dRes qorwili iyo galileas kanaSi, da

iq iyo iesos deda. ieso da misi mowafeebic

miwveulni iyvnen qorwilSi. da raki Rvino

SemoakldaT, iesos dedam uTxra mas: Rvino ara

aqvT. xolo iesom miugo: mereda, ra Cemi da Seni

saqmea, dedakaco? jer kidev ar damdgara Cemi saaTi.

dedamisma uTxra msaxurebs: rasac getyviT,

aRasruleT. iyo iq eqvsi qvis kasri, iudevelTa

ganwmendis Cveulebisamebr dadgmuli, romlebSiac

Cadioda ori Tu sami sawyao. uTxra maT iesom:

aavseT kasrebi wyliT. da maTac aavses pirTamde. da

kvlav uTxra maT: axla ki amoiReT da miarTviT

Tamadas. da miarTves. roca gemo gausinja Tamadam

Rvinod qceul wyals (Tumca man ar icoda, rogor

moxda es: icodnen mxolod msaxurebma, romlebmac

amoiRes wyali), mouxmo siZes. da uTxra: yvela kaci

jer ukeTes Rvinos Camodgams, xolo roca

daTvrebian, uaress. Sen ki ukeTesi Rvino aqamde

Semoginaxavs.” (ioane, 2:1-10)am saswaulis Semdeg, Rvino CuxCuxebs

saqristianoSi - bevri Tvlis, rom rac kargi iyo

maTi winamZRvrisTvis, kargia maTTvisac. ieso ar

yofila garTobis mowinaaRmdege - amboben isini -

gana man ar aqcia wyali mSvenier Rvinod, rom

mTvralebmac ki igrZnes gansxvaveba? ukeTesi

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bolomde Semoinaxeo. es ar iyo yurZnis wveni. es

iyo Rvino! ramac saSualeba misca lotis

qaliSvilebs SeecdinaT mamamisi (dabadeba, 19:32-

33). romlisganac qristianebs urCeven Tavis

Sekavebas - nu daTvrebiT RviniT... (efeselTa, 5:18).es TiTqosda umniSvnelo momenti miaqanebs

milionebs qvemoT da qvemoT! amerikaSi aris 10

milioni loTi 70 milion "xelaxlad Sobil"

qristianTagan. amerikelebi Tavis loTebs

"problemur msmelebs" uwodeben, xolo samxreT

afrikaSi - "alkoholikebs". loTi - cota mZime

gadasaxarSi sityvaa xalxisTvis.doqtori keneT kaunda, zambiis premier-

ministri, dauzarelad uwodebs sagnebs Tavis saxels. man pirdapir Tqva - me ar var mzad gavuZRve loTebis qveyanas, sadac gulisxmobda Tavis Tanamoqalaqeebs, romlebic aqtiurad svamen alkoholur sasmels.

"gawiTlda" Tu ara wyali iesos danaxviT, Cven

ver davabralebT mas da mis mimdevrebs

Tanamedroveebis midrekilebebs sasmlis mimarT. man

gulwrfelad gviTxra: "bevri rame maqvs TqvenTvis

saTqmeli, magram amJamad veRar itvirTavT" (ioane,

16:12) kacobriobas jer ar mieRwia islamis srulad

miRebis donemde, razec manve Tqva: "arc axal

Rvinos asxamen Zvel tikebSio..." (maTe, 9:17)

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"deda" Tu "dedakaco"?

ioanes saxarebis zemoT moyvanili nawyvetis

mixedviT, romelic aRgviwers qorwils kanaSi,

meoTxe muxlSi ieso uxeSad eqceva dedamiss da mas

dedakacos uwodebs. ufro uaresic - ra Cemi da Seni

saqmea, dedakaco? ase mimarTavs. nuTu mis enaSi ar

iyo sityva deda? nuTu man daiviwya, rom am

"dedakacma" atara igi cxra Tve, gamokveba igi

CvilobaSi da bevris gadatana da axsna mouwia mis

gamo?ucnauria, rom roca qristiani misionerebi da

mqadageblebi amayoben Tavisi winamZRvris

TavmdablobiTa da sulgrZelobiT, uwodeben mas

siyvarulisa da mSvidobis meufes, hyvebian rogor

morCilad Seegeba igi Tavis mZime xvedrs, meore

mxriv amayad acxadeben, rom mas mudam mzad hqonda

mkvaxe pasuxi uxucesi TvistomebisTvis, da es

Canawerebi namdvilia, ieso ase mimarTavda

uxucesebs:"TvalTmaqcno!""ukeTuri da memruSe modgma!""garedan SefeTqilo saflavebo!""gvelno! iqednes naSierno!"da dedamisis mimarT - "dedakaco!"

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iesos icaven

muhammadma, , RmerTis macnem, daicva ieso da ملسو هيلع هللا ىلص

CamoaSora mas amgvari braldebebi.“(RmerTma) mibrZana me keTili viyo dedaCemis

mimarT, da ar var me mCagvrelTagani.” (mariam, 19:31)

roca mariams axares vaJis Sesaxeb, man Tqva:“ufalo! rogor meyoleba me vaJi, roca kaci

ar Semxebia? da upasuxa angelozma: aseTia RmerTi,

igi iqms, rasac moisurvebs. roca igi moisurvebs

rames, ityvis - iyav! da ise iqneba. da RmerTi

aswavlis mas wignsa da sibrZnes, TavraTsa da

injils” (aal 'imran, 3:47-48).

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Tavi mexuTe: yuranisa da bibliis versiebi

Sexvedra pastorTan

me vewvie "bibliis saxls" iohanesburgSi. vaTvalierebdi bibliisa da sxva religiuri wignebis sacavs, davaTvaliere biblia indoneziur enaze da Semdeg aviRe berZnul-inglisuri axali aRTqma, didi da Zvirfasi wigni. me ver mivxvdi, rogor Semovida bibliis saxlis zedamxedveli oTaxSi, albaT Cemma wverma da muslimurma Tavsaburavma daainteresa. man SemekiTxa, rogor momwonda berZnul-inglisuri versia axali aRTqmisa. me avuxseni, rom rogorc SedarebiTi religiaT-mcodneobis studentisTvis, es wigni CemTvis Zalian Zvirfasi iyo. man mimipatiJa Caize da mec davTanxmdi am mSvenier SemoTavazebas. finjan Caize me avuxseni mas muslimTa rwmena iesosTan, RmerTma dalocos igi, dakavSirebiT. me avuxseni, ramdenad maRali statusi hqonda iesos islamSi. Tumca igi daeWvebuli da skeptikurad ganwyobili Canda Cemi monayolis mimarT. me gakvirvebuli viyavi misi ucodinrobiT am sakiTxisa, radgan mxolod gadamdgar pastors SeeZlo bibliis saxlis zedamxedveli gamxdariyo samxreT afrikaSi. me daviwye brZeni yuranis mesame Tavis 42-e aiis kiTxva:

da uTxres angelozebma - mariam! RmerTma amogirCia Sen da gangwminda Sen, da aRgamaRla Sen samyaroTa qalebze...

me mindoda pastors moesmina ara mxolod

yuranis sityvebis mniSvneloba, aramed misi

JReradoba da riTmika arabulad. pastori dunkersi

(ase erqva mas) wynarad ijda da usmenda "allahis

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sityvas" gafacicebiT. roca me davasrule 49-e aiis kiTxva, pastorma SeniSna, rom yuranis cnobebi

bibliis msgavsi iyo da daamata - me ver vxedav

gansxvavebas imas Soris, rac Sen waikiTxe, da imas

Soris, risic me mwams. me daveTanxme da vuTxari, rom Tu sadme waawydeboda am sityvebs maTi arabuli

eqvivalentis gareSe gverdiT, maSin igi ver

mixvdeboda rom es yuranis sityvebi iyo da

egoneboda, rom es ubralod bibliis sxva Targmani

an redaqciaa.qristiani naxavs am aiebSi yvelafers, rac ki

mas surs gaigos iesoze, saukeTeso da

keTilSobiluri sityvebiT gadmocemuls.

gamoricxulia, es mis guls ar Cawvdes.

amgvarad, rva aia 42-edan 49-es CaTvliT gvamcnobs:a) mariami, iesos deda, iyo keTilSobili qali

da amaRlebuli samyaroTa qalebze.b) yvelaferi es RmerTis mier

gardmovlenilia kacobriobisTvis.g) ieso aris RmerTis sityvis matarebeli.d) is aris mesia (qriste), romelsac elodnen

iudevelebi.e) RmerTma misca mas Zala, rom moexdina

saswauli jer kidev CvilobaSi.v) ieso daibada saswaulebrivad, mamakacis

Carevis gareSe.z) RmerTma mas gamocxadeba.gardmouvlinaT) mas eqneba RmerTisgan miniWebuli Zala

riTac aRadgens mkvdrebs, gankurnavs sapyarT,

usinaTloebsa da keTrovnebs...

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carci da yveli

yvelaze ufro gulanTebuli qristianebic ki ver gamoyofen aqedan romelime frazas. magram yuranisa da bibliis versiebs Soris gansxvaveba carcisa da yvelis gansxvavebas hgavs - zedapirze orive TeTria da swori, magram SigniT?

"CemTvis es versiebi identuria, maS raSia gansxvaveba?" mkiTxa pastorma.

marTlac, orive versia Tanxmdeba ZiriTad detalebSi, magram Tu siRrmiseulad davakvirdebiT, vnaxavT rom gansxvaveba maT Soris udidesia.

SevadaroT yuraniseuli versia iesos mucladRebisa, romelic yuranis 3 suris 47 aiaSia mocemuli, bibliur versias:

xolo ieso qristes Soba ase moxda: dedamisi mariami daniSnuli iyo iosebze, da maT SeerTebamde aRmoCnda, rom muclad eRo suli wmidisagan (maTe, 1:18).

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didi dramaturgi

kargad cnobilma amerikelma mqadagebelma,

bili gremma, moaxdina am muxlis dramatizeba 40

aTasi msmenelis winaSe king parkSi, qalaq durbanSi,

aRmarTuli saCvenebeli TiTiT gamoacxada: "da

movida suliwmida da daaorsula mariami!" meores

mxriv, lukas saxareba gvamcnobs am ambavs nakleb

uxeSi formiT. igi ambobs, rom roca mariams axares,

man daimorcxva da misi reaqcia iyo Semdegi:"rogor iqneba eg, mamakaci rom ar vici?"

(luka, 1:34)yuraniseuli versiac igive reaqciaze

mogviTxrobs:"ufalo! rogor meyoleba me vaJi, roca kaci ar

Semxebia?" (aal 'imran, 3:47)gansxvaveba am or citatas Soris ar aris,

orive igive mniSvnelobas atareben mciredi

gansxvavebiT sityvaTwyobaSi. magram amis pasuxad

naTqvami sityvebi yuransa da bibliaSi

bevrismTqmelia.

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bibliis versia

biblia ambobs:"miugo angelozma da uTxra mas: suli wmida

gadmova Senze, da uzenaesis Zala mogiCrdilebs..."

(luka, 1:35)nuTu ver xedavT, rom aTeists, skeptikossa da

agnostikoss aZlevT joxs xelSi, romelsac isev

Tqven dagartyamT? isini ikiTxaven: "rogor

gadmovida suliwmida mariamze?" "rogor

mouCrdila uzenaesis Zalam?" Cven, muslimebma,

viciT, rom es yvelaferi ubiwo Casaxvaze miuTiTebs

da ar unda gavigoT pirdapiri mniSvnelobiT,

magram sityvaTwyoba miuRebelia da ugemovno.

SeadareT yuraniseul versias.

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yuranis versia

"da upasuxa angelozma: aseTia RmerTi, igi iqms, rasac moisurvebs. roca igi moisurvebs rames, ityvis - iyav! da ise iqneba." (aal 'imran, 3:47)

es iesos saswaulebrivi Casaxvis islamuri aRweraa. imisTvis, rom RmerTs Seeqmna ieso, mamis gareSe, sakmarisi iyo mas mxolod moesurvebina es. Tu mas surs Seqmnas milioni ieso, mamebisa da dedebis gareSe, sakmarisia mxolod moisurvos es. mas ar sWirdeba ganayofiereba da mucladReba, rogorc adamianebs, sakmarisia man isurvos da es asec iqneba.

"araferia axali imaSi, rasac me geubnebiT" - vuTxari pastors - "es bibliis pirvelive wignSia. dabadeba, 1:3 - Tqva RmerTma, iyos... da iqmna... " mas sityvis Tqmac ar sWirdeboda, es aris Cveni meTodologia sityva "iyos"-is gagebisa, rom man isurva es ubralod momxdariyo, da asec moxda.

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arCevani qaliSvilisTvis

"iesos mucladRebis ori versiidan - yuraniseuli da bibliiseuli - romels airCevdiT, rom Tqveni qaliSvilisTvis mogeyolaT?" - vkiTxe bibliis saxlis zedamxedvels. man Tavi daxara da mowiwebiT miTxra - yuranis versias.

rogor SeiZleba "gadmowerili" da "SeTxzuli", rogorc brals sdeben yurans, ukeTesi iyos dedanze da originalze, rogoradac acxadeben es bralmdeblebi biblias?

es SeuZlebeli iqneboda, Tu es ar iqneboda RmerTis sityva, gamocxadeba gardmovlenili muhammadze, , da ara dawerili anda SeTxzuli mis ملسو هيلع هللا ىلصmier. aris kidev mravali sxvagvari gamocda, romelic SeuZlia WeSmaritebis gulwrfel mZebnels gamoiyenos da igi Zalian male darwmundeba, rom es zeciuri gzavnilia.

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rogorc adami

nuTu saswaulebrivma mucladRebam ieso gaxada RmerTi, an RmerTis mxolodSobili vaJi? ara! yurani ambobs:

"RmerTis winaSe ieso, adamis msgavsia. man Seqmna adami miwisgan, Semdeg uTxra - iyav! da isic moevlina" (aal 'imran, 3:59)

iusuf 'ali ganmartavs amas Tavis yuranis TargmanSi.

“im maRali poziciis ganmartebis Semdeg, rasac ieso ikavebs, rogorc RmerTis macne da winaswarmetyveli, Cven gvaqvs uaryofa dogmisa rom igi iyo RmerTi, an Ze RvTisa, an raimenairi zeadamiani. Tu vinme amtkicebs amas im safuZvliT, rom igi mamis gareSe daibada, adamic msgavsad daibada. metic - adami dedisa da mamis gareSe daibada. ase rom rac Seexeba Cvens fizikur sxeuls, isini ubralo miwani arian. RvTis TvalSi ieso aris igive, rac adami da kacobrioba. iesos sidiadis amomavali wertilia - iyav!, swored amis brZanebaSemdeg igi iqceva did sulier moZRvrad da winamZRolad."

logika amgvaria - Tu is faqti, rom mamis gareSe dabadebis gamo ieso RmerTs uTanabrdeba da misi Zea, dedisa da mamis gareSe dabadebul adams amgvar pativze upiratesi ufleba aqvs, magram adamis RmerTobas arc erTi qristiani ar Sexvdeba mzaobiT. ase rom, muslimebic uaryofen qristianTa mtkicebas iesos RmerTobaze.

Tu qristiani mainc jiutad amtkicebs, rom adami miwisgan Seiqmna, xolo ieso ubiwod Caisaxa, maS, modi SevaxsenoT mas, rom aris erTi bibliuri persona, romelic iesoze didi gamodis, am araswori standartebis mixedviT. vin aris es "zeadamiani"?

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pavles saqmeni

"melqisedeki, mefe salemisa, uzenaesi RmerTis

mRvdeli... udedmamo, ugvartomo, romelsac arc

dReTa dasabami aqvs da arc sicocxlis dasasruli..."

(ebraelTa, 7:1,3)ai, TviT RmerTobis kandidati, radgan amgvar

Tvisebebs mxolod yovlisSemZle SeiZleba RmerTi

flobdes. adams hqonda dasabami edemSi, iesos

hqonda dasabami bagaSi, adams hqonda sicocxlis

dasasruli, da saxarebis mixedviT iesomac "ganuteva

suli" (luka, 23:46). magram melqisedeki? iqneb igi

dResac sadme Tvlems, rogorc rip van vinkeli,

legendaruli personaJi, romelsac wlobiT eZina.da ra aris es "ebraelTa"? es aris saxeli

bibliis erT-erTi wignisa, misi sruli saxeli

iqneba "pavle mociqulis epistole ebraelTa

mimarT". anu pavles werili ebraelebisadmi. vin

iyo pavle? pavle iyo adamiani, romelic iesos

amqveynidan wasvlis Semdeg gaxda misi mecamete

mociquli. iesos hyavda 12 mociquli, magram erT-

erTi, iuda, eSmakma Seacdina. ase rom Tavisufali

adgili unda Sevsebuliyo, radgan israelis

Tormeti tomi Tavis msajulebs eloda (luka,

22:30)savle iyo gandgomili ebraeli, da

qristianebma Seucvales mas saxeli, radgan savle

(sauli) ebraulad JRerda. swored pavlem ise

Secvala iesos swavleba, rom man daimsaxura meore

adgili maikl hartis monumentur naSromSi "The

100 or The Top Hundred or the Greatest Hundred in

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History" (istoriis yvelaze gavleniani aseuli). man

am CamonaTvalSi TviT iesosac ki gauswro! maikl

hartis azriT, dRevandeli qristianuli religiis

realuri fuZemdebeli swored pavlea.

qristianobis dRevandeli gavnelis pativi ki

pavlesa da iesos Soris unda gayofiliyo, da

gaimarjva pavlem, radgan man bibliis meti wigni

dawera, vidre sxva nebismierma avtorma, xolo

iesos erTi sityvac ar dauweria.pavles ar dasWirvebia Segulianeba, rom Tavisi

varaudebi da hiperbolebi daewera aq da mis sxva

epistoleebSic. gebelsi, germaniis propagandis

ministri ambobda: "rac didia sicrue, miT metia misi

dajerebis Sansio". magram saocari melqisedekis

citatis Sesaxeb is aris, rom TiTqos arc erT

qristians ar waukiTxavs is. yoveli swavluli

qristiani, romelsac me is vaCvene, iseTi

gakvirvebuli iyo, TiTqos pirvelad xedavda mas.

maT zustad axasiaTebdaT iesos sityva:"mxdvelni veras xedaven, msmenelni veras

ismenen, da arc ara gaegebaT ra" (maTe, 13:13)yuranSi aseve aris aia, romelic aseve zustad

aRwers am mdgomareobas:"yruni, munjni da brmani - isini ar iqnebian

dabrunebulni swor gzaze." (al-bayara, 2:18)

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RvTis Zeebi

muslimebi mkveTrad uaryofiTad uyureben erT qristianul dogmas, kerZod "mwams ieso Ze RvTisa mxolodSobili,.. Sobili da ara qmnili". es aris qristianuli mrwamsis nawili, rasac qristianebi bavSvobidan swavloben. me bevrjer vkiTxe swavlul qristianebs, risi xazgasma surT maT, roca isini Tuamboben "Sobili da ara qmnili".

maT ician, rom maTive wminda wignis mixedviT, RmerTs hyavs mravali Ze:

"... Ze adamisa, Ze RmrTisa." (luka, 3:38)"dainaxes RvTis Zeebma, rom mSvenierni iyvnen

adamianTa asulebi... roca RvTis Zeebi Sediodnen adamianTa asulebTan, romelnic uSobdnen maT..." (dabadeba, 6:2,4)

"uTxari faraons, ase ambobs-Tqo ufali: Cemi pirmSo Zea israeli." (gamosvla, 4:22)

"...radgan israelis mama var me da efremi Cemi pirmSoa." (ieremia, 31:8)

"...ufalma miTxra: Ze xar Cemi, dRes gSobe Sen." (fsalmunni, 2:7)

"... RvTis Zea yvela, visac RvTis suli warmarTavs." (romaelTa, 18:14)

rogorc vxedavT, iudevelTaTvis yvela gulmarTali adamiani, romelic misdevda RmerTis nebasa da gegmas, iyo RvTis Ze. es metafora iyo iudevelTa Soris. qristiani eTanxmeba am msjelobas, magram amatebs: "ieso ar iyo maTi msgavsi." adami RmerTma Seqmna. yoveli cocxali RmerTma Seqmna, igi aris ufali, meoxi da mflobeli yvelafrisa. metaforulad - RmerTi yvelas mamaa. magram ieso iyo Sobili Ze RvTisa, da ara qmnili?

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"Sobili" niSnavs "Svilad ayvanils"?im ormoci wlis ganmaclobaSi, rac me gavatare

sxvadasxva swavlul qristianebTan saubarSi, arc erTs arc ki ucdia aexsna, ras niSnavs "Sobili da ara qmnili." da erTma amerikelma erTxel scada amis axsna. man Tqva: "es niSnavs, rom igi Svilad aiyvana RmerTma.”

“rao?" avfeqTdi me "rogor Tu Svilad aiyvana? RmerTma?”

"ara, ara" Tqva man "me mxolod vcdilob avxsna mniSvneloba. me ar mjera rom RmerTma Svilad aiyvana Ze."

ganaTlebuli da morwmune qristiani ambobs, rom sityvebi ar gulisxmoben imas, rasac isini niSnaven. maSin ratom ambobT maT? ratom qmniT arasaWiro konfliqts qristiansa da 1200 000 0001000 000 000 muslims Soris mniSvnelobis armqone sityvebis gamo?

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mizezi miuReblobisa

muslimisTvis miuRebelia sityva "Sobili".

radgan dabadeba aris iseTi movlena, rac axasiaTebs

umdables cxovelebsac. rogor SegviZlia aseTi ram

RmerTs mivaweroT? metaforulad ki Cven yvela

RvTis Svilebi varT, kargi da cudi, da ieso misi

uaxloesi Zea, igi ufro axlosaa masTan vidre

nebismieri Cvengani da ufro imsaxurebs am wodebas,

vidre nebismieri Cvengani, radgan igi metad

RvTismoSiSi da morwmunea, vidre nebismieri

Cvengani. am kuTxiT igi aris RvTis Ze.

Tumca es sityva - "Sobili" zedmeti ceremoniebis

gareSe amoiRes bibliis "yvelaze ufro zusti

Targmanidan" ( ), misi Revised Standard Version, RVS

aCrdili kvlav aSfoTebs qristianTa gonebas,

Savkanianebisa Tu TeTrkanianebis. am fenomenis

gavleniT TeTrkaniani Tavs aRmatebulad grZnobs,

radgan imave rasas ekuTvnis, rasac "RmerTis

mxolodSobili Ze", gansxvavebiT misive eklesiisa

da mimdinareobis wevri misive Savkaniani Zmisgan.

xolo Savkaniani piriqiT, Tavs grZnobs

arasrulfasovnad amave mizeziT.

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Canergili arasrulfasovneba

adamianuri msjelobiT, radgan afrikelis

mxolodSobili Ze emsgavseba afrikels, Cinelisa -

Cinels, indoelisa ki indoels, bunebrivia rom

RmerTis Zec RmerTs hgavdes. miliardobiT

mSvenieri suraTi da reproduqcia arsebobs "RvTis

mxolodSobili Zisa" adamianTaTvis xelmisawvdomi,

sadac igi hgavs evropels wablisferi TmiT, lurji

TvalebiTa da mSvenieri garegnobiT, rogorc

gvinaxavs suraTebsa da xatebze. gaixseneT jefri

hanteri. misi "mxsneli" ufro germanels hgavs,

vidre did, semitur cxvirian ebraels. bunebrivia,

rom Tu Ze TeTria, vifiqroT rom mamac TeTria.

amgvarad, muqkaniani rasebi dedamiwisa ganicdian

arasrulfasovnebis kompleqss, rogorc RmerTis

"gerebi". veranairi raodenobis saxis kremebi,

gamaRiaveblebi da Tmis gamasworeblebi ver

gadafaraven am arasrulfasovnebas. RmerTi ar aris arc Savi da arc TeTri. misi warmodgena da aRwera

adamianis gonebis miRmaa. Tu SesaZleblobebis

daimsxvreva gonebrivi borkilebi TeTri

RmerTkacisa, daimsxvreva arasrulfasovnebis

borkilebic, magram gonebrivi borkilebi Zneli

dasamsxvrevia, radgan mis arsebobas ar cnoben da

piriqiT, ibrZvian mis SesanarCuneblad.

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Tavi meeqvse: qristianuli dilemebis pasuxad

qriste islamSi - es aris qriste yuranSi. da

brZen yurans aqvs raRac, sadac garkveviT aris

naTqvami qristianTa gzaabnevis Sesaxeb. yurani

aTavisuflebs iesos, RmerTma dalocos igi, rogorc

misi mtrebis aseve misi cru braldebebisgan,

mimdevrebis gadaWarbebuli warmodgenebisgan. misi

gzaabneuli mimdevrebi acxadeben, rom man aRiara

sakuTari RvTaebrioba, magram es mkrexeloba ar

yofila, radgan igi iyo RmerTi. ras ambobs yurani?uzenaesi ambobs yuranSi, da mimarTavs

iudevelebsa da qristianebs:"wignis mqoneno! nu gadaaWarbebT Tqvens

religiaSi: nu ityviT RmerTze raimes, simarTlis

garda! mesia iseo, Ze mariamisa iyo RmerTis macne,

da misi sityva, romelic man uboZa mariams, da misi

suli. maS iwameT RvTisa da misi macneebis" (an-nisa,

4:171).

gadaWarbeba

"wignis mqoneno" - aris termini, romliTac RmerTi iudevelebsa da qristianebs mimarTavs yuranSi. es sakmaod pativdebuli mimarTvaa. sxva sityvebiT rom vTqvaT, RmerTi ambobs - "wminda werilis mqoneno", xalxo". "ganaTlebuloiudevelebi da qristianebi Tavs ametebdnen arabebs, romlebsac yuranamde sxva wigni ar hqoniaT. rogorc wignis xalxs, RmerTi mimarTavs orive religiis morwmuneebs, rom iwamon maT simarTle da ara gadaWarbebuli, erTmaneTisgan pola-rulad gansxvavebuli warmodgenebi iesos pirovnebis Sesaxeb. iudevelebma aiRes iesos calkeuli sityvebi da daabrales mas mkrexeloba, eWvqveS daayenes misi warmoSoba da mizani, xolo qristianebma igive xerxiT, sityvebis konteqstidan amoglejiT, gaaRmerTes ieso.

Tanamedrove qristiani, bibliis mqadagebeli, mgznebare evangelisti, ufro uxeS sityvebsa da gamoTqmebsac iyenebs, rom gadaibiros vinme Tavisken.

igi ambobs:a) ieso an RmerTia, an matyuara!b) ieso an RmerTia, an SeSlili!g) ieso an RmerTia, an TviTmarqvia!es aris maTi sityvebi, qristianuli

literaturidan amokrebili. radganac arc erTi gonieri adamiani, muslimi Tu aramuslimi, ar dagmobs iesos da ar uwodebs mas arc erT zemoTCamoTvlil sityvas, rogorc mqadagebeli iwvevs mas, igi nebsiT Tu uneblied eTanxmeba mqadageblis paToss. adamiani fiqrobs, rom man arCevani unda gaakeTos am or poluss Soris. man ar icis, rom arsebobs gonieri alternativa am qristianuli Tavsatexisa.

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gonieri alternativa

nuTu SeuZlebelia rom ieso iyos, rogorc igi

ambobda, ubralod macne, rogorc mravali sxva

macne da winaswarmetyveli mis win? damatebiT -

erT-erTi udidesi maTgan, Zlieri saswaulmoqmedi,

diadi sulieri moZRvari da mesia! ratom mxolod

"RmerTi an SeSlili"? nuTu RvTaebriobis

erTaderTi alternativa "SeSlilobaa"? ra aris

RmerTis antonimi? ras upasuxeben swavluli

qristianebi?yurani cxadhyofs iesos WeSmarit mdgomareobas

erTi aiiT, meoTxe suris 171-e aiiT, romelsac

amgvarad ganmartavs iusuf 'ali:1) igi iyo adamianis Svili, mariamisa, da

Sesabamisad, adamiani.2) magram igi amoirCia RmerTma da mianiWa

pativi macneobisa, amitomac Cvenganac pativiscemis

Rirsia.3) RmerTis sityva, boZebuli mariamisTvis,

roca RmerTma brZana "iyav" da igi iqmna (aal

'imran, 3:59).4) suli, gamosuli RmerTisgan, magram ara

RmerTi. misi cxovreba da moRvaweoba metad

SezRuduli iyo, vidre zogierTi sxva macnisa,

magram igi Cvengan mainc didi pativiscemisa da

dafasebis Rirsia. swavlebebi samebis, RmerTTan

Tanasworobis, mxolod Sobili Zisa da a.S. Sesaxeb mkrexelobaa. RmerTi Tavisufalia yovelgvari

saWiroebebisgan da arc Zes saWiroebs imisTvis, rom

Seasrulos misi saqmeebi, miutevos codva adamianebs

da a.S. ioanes saxarebam aleqsandriuli gnostikuri

misticizmis saburvelSi gaxvia "sityva", magram

sityvis namdvili raoba axsnilia am aiaSi.

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iesos sityva

qvemoT mocemulia brZeni yuranis mexuTe

suris, al-ma'idas 116-118 aiebi. isini aRweren

samsjavros dRis erT epizods, roca RmerTi

SeekiTxeba iesos, RmerTma dalocos igi, misi da

dedamisis mimarT Tayvaniscemis Sesaxeb da mis

pasuxs.“da rodesac RmerTi ityvis - ieso Ze mariamisa!

nuTu Sen uTxari adamianebs, rom SenTvisa da

dedaSenisTvis ecaT Tayvani, Cems garda?

igi (ieso) ityvis: didebuli xar Sen! me ver

vityodi imas, risi Tqmis uflebac ar mqonia. me

rom meTqva es, Sen ueWvelad gecodineboda, radgan

Sen uwyi, ra aris Cems gulSi, xolo me ar vici, ra

aris SenSi. Sen xar is, vinc uwyis yoveli

dafaruli. me araferi miTqvams maTTvis, garda

imisa, rac Sen mibrZane - iwameT RmerTi, Cemi ufali

da Tqveni ufali! da me viyavi mowme maT Sesaxeb

vidre vcxovrobdi maT Soris. roca Sen amomiyvane

me, Sen uwyodi, ras iqmodnen isini da Sen xar

yoveli qmedebis mowme. Tu Sen dasji maT, isini Sens

xelT arian, Tu miuteveb, radgan Sen xar

Zlevamosili, msajulTmsajuli.”arasodes gamoucxadebia RvTaebrioba

Tu zemoTmoyvanili sityvebi yovlismcodnisa,

rom iesos "araferi uTqvams, garda imisa, rac

RmerTma ubrZana - erwmunaT RmerTi - misi ufali

da maTi ufali", maSin riTi xsnian qristianebi

iesos RvTaebriobas?ar aris arc erTi pirdapiri citata mTels

bibliaSi, mis arc erT versiaSi (biblias aqvs

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ramdenime varianti. aRmosavluri eklesiebi cnoben

77 wignian biblias, kaTolikuri - 73 wigns, xolo

protestantebi 66 wigns. danarCen wignebs isini

ganixilaven rogorc apokrifas, anu saeWvos.) sadac

ieso ambobs, rom igi RmerTia da mas unda

emsaxuron. aseve igi arsad ar ambobs, rom is da

RmerTi erTni arian.es bolo fraza aRZravs bevr mgznebare

evangelists, maT Soris Teologiis profesorebsac.

axal-gaqristianebulebsac ki dazepirebuli aqvT es muxlebi. maT aCvenes es muxlebi, konteqstidan

amoRebuli da maTac am muxlebze daafuZnes Tavisi

rwmena. "erTni varT" - es sityvebi maT asociaciur

mexsierebas aRviZebs. "ki, uTqvams!" ityvian isini,

"iesom Tqva rom igi RmerTia!" sad?

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pastori sufrasTan

me davpatiJe pastori morisi da misi coli

vaxSamze "oqros farSevangSi". roca sufrasTan

visxediT, Cveni codnis urTierTgaziarebisas, me

momeca Sansi damesva misTvis es kiTxva - "sad?" da

manac uyoymanod mipasuxa bibliuri citatiT: "me da

mama erTni varT!", rac misi azriT niSnavda, rom

RmerTi da ieso erTi da igive personaa. rom ieso

acxadebs misi RvTaebriobis Sesaxeb. es muxli

CemTvis kargad iyo cnobili, magram igi

konteqstidan iyo amoglejili. mas ar hqonda is

mniSvneloba, rac pastors warmoedgina. amitom me

vkiTxe mas - "ra aris konteqsti?”

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konteqstidan amogleja

pastorma Wama Sewyvita da gakvirvebuli

momaCerda. me vTqvi: "ratom miyurebT

gakvirvebuli? ar iciT konteqsti? Tqvens mier

moyvanili citata aris teqsti, xolo me minda

vicode konteqstic, misi wina teqsti da

gagrZeleba." Cems win ijda inglisurenovani

kanadeli, presviterianuli eklesiis msaxuri,

Teologiis doqtori, da me mas vuxsnidi sityva

"konteqstis" mniSvnelobas. man ra Tqma unda icoda,

ras niSnavda es sityva. magram msgavsad misi sxva

Tanamemamuleebisa da Tanamorwmuneebisa, mas

arasodes Seuswavlia, ra dros da ris gamo Tqva

iesom es sityvebi.Cemi ormocwliani gamocdilebis manZilze, es

teqsti mravaljer uTqvamT CemTvis, magram arc erT

swavlul qristians ar ucdia, gaego misi realuri

mniSvneloba. isini yovelTvis iReben xolme jibis

biblias muxlebis wasakiTxad. magram danarCeni

doqtors Tan ar hqonda Tavisi jibis biblia. roca

man daapira bibliis mosatanad wasvla, me SevaCere

igi da vuTxari - "ueWvelad, Tqven iciT Tqveni

biblia? iciT, ra citata mogyavT?" amis wakiTxvis

Semdeg, vimedovneb, qristianebi gamoasworeben am

nakls, magram veWvob, Cem muslim mkiTxvelebs

SexvdeT romelime, vinc daasaxelebs konteqsts am

sityvebisa.

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rogoria konteqsti?

pastoris mxridan uxerxulad gamoCnda, roca ver momiyvana konteqsti da kiTxva damibruna - "Tqven iciT ra aris konteqsti am frazisa?"

"ra Tqma unda" vupasuxe me. "maS, daasaxeleT!" miTxra pastorma.

Tqveni citata ioanes 10:30 muxlia - vTqvi me - konteqstis gasagebad kiTxva 23-e muxlidan unda daviwyoT.

dadioda ieso taZarSi, solomonis bWesTan. (ioane, 10:23)

ioane, am teqstis avtori, ar asaxelebs mizezs, ratom dadioda ieso marto "lomis xaxaSi", radgan iudevelebi ar gamotovebdnen SesaZleblobas angariSi gaesworebinaT iesosTvis. albaT, igi imedovnebda, rom iseve daereoda iudevelebs, rogorc winaT, roca man SoltiT gamoyara vaWrebi da mekermeebi taZridan, maTi daxlebi ki amoayirava (ioane, 2:15)

gars Semoertynen iudevelebi da uTxres: sanamdis unda gvimwarebde suls? Tu qriste (mesia) xar, gviTxari naTlad! (ioane, 10:24)

isini gars Semoexvivnen iesos, uTiTebdnen masze da daiwyes misi gamowveva, rom mas ar gamoucxadebia Tavis Sesaxeb pirdapir da gasagebad. rom igi orazrovnad laparakobda. isini cdilobdnen moenaxaT mizezi, rom ufro gulmodgined mietanaT ieriSi masze. maTi ukmayofilebis namdvili mizezi ki is iyo, rom maT ar moswondaT iesos qadageba, misi miniSnebebi, sadac igi gmobda maT formalizms, religiis zedapirul mimdevrobas da sjulis kanonis mimarT asokirkita damokidebulebas da sulierebis daviwyebas. magram iesos ar SeeZlo ufro metad gaebrazebina isini -

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Zalian bevrni da ukve sakmaod gabrazebulni iyvnen.

keTilgoniereba mamacobis saukeTeso nawilia, mSvidi gonebiTa da mdgomareobis Sesabamisad.

miugo maT iesom: giTxariT da ar merwmuneT; saqmeni, romelTac vakeTeb mamis saxeliT, TviTonve mowmoben CemTvis. magram Tqven ar gjeraT, vinaidan ara xarT Cemi cxvarTaganni, rogorc giTxariT. (ioane, 10:25-26)

ieso uaryofs misi mtrebis crubraldebas, TiTqos igi orazrovani iyo Tavis gacxadebaSi. igi ambobs, rom man sakmarisad naTlad auxsna maT, magram isini ar usmenen mas.

Cems cxvrebs Cemi xma esmiT, me vicnob maT, da isinic momdeven. me vaZlev maT saukuno sicocxles; ar warwymdebian ukunisamde da veravin momtacebs maT Cemi xelidan. mamaCemi, romelmac momca isini, yvelaze umetesia; da misi xelidan veravin waritacebs maT. (ioane, 10:27-29)

rogor SeiZleba vinme iyos ise brma, rom ver dainaxos bolo ori muxlis dasasrulTa msgavseba. magram sulieri defeqti fizikur naklze uaresia. igi eubneba iudevelebsa da momaval Taobebs namdvil urTierTobasa da erTobaze mamasa da Zes Soris. da mTavari muxli:

me da mama erTni varT (ioane, 10:30)erTni raSi? yovlismcodneobaSi? bunebaSi?

yovlisSemZleobaSi? ara! erTni arian saerTo mizniT. roca morwmune miiRebs macne rwmenas,zrunavs, rom igi darCes rwmenaSi da RmerTic zrunavs, rom igi darCes rwmenaSi. es aris mizani mamisa, Zisa da wmida sulisa. da yoveli morwmune qalisa Tu kacisa. dae, Tavad ioanem axsnas Tavisi mistiuri gnostikuri formulireba:

marto maTTvis rodi gevedrebi, aramed

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yvelasTvis, visac vwamvar maTive sityviT. raTa yvela erTi iyvnen, rogorc Sen, mamao, CemSi, xolo me - SenSi. da irwmunos qveyanam, rom Sen momavline. dideba, romelic Sen momeci, me maT miveci, raTa iyvnen CvensaviT erTi. (ioane, 17:20-22)

Tu ieso da RmerTi erTni arian da es erToba mas RmerTad xdis, maSin gamyidveli iuda, urwmuno Toma, eSmakeuli petre (maTe, 16:23) aseve is cxra mowafe, romlebmac miatoves igi gasaWirSi, arian RmerTebi, radgan igive erToba RmerTTan, rac iesom ganacxada ioanes 10:30-Si, man ganacxada yvelasTvis, vinc (markozi, "miatova is da gaiqca" 16:50) (maTe, 8:26) yvela "mcired morwmuneTaTvis" yvela (luka, 9:41). "urwmuno da ukeTurisTvis"rodis dasruldeba es mkrexeloba?

fraza "me da mama erTni varT" iyo sruliad Cveulebrivi, igi niSnavda mxolod saerTo mizans RmerTTan. magram iudevelebi eZebdnen mizezs iesos winaaRmdeg da amitomac:

maSin iudevelebma kvlav qvebs dastaces xeli mis Casaqolad. iesom miugo maT: mravali keTili saqme giCveneT mier; romeli maTganisTvis mamaCemismipirebT Caqolvas? miuges iudevelebma da Tqves: keTili saqmisTvis ki ar CagqolavT, aramed RmrTis gmobisTvis, vinaidan kaci xar da RmerTad ki mogaqvs Tavi! (ioane, 10:31-33)

24-e muxlSi iudevelebma iesos wauyenes cru braldeba, TiTqos igi orazrovnad laparakobda. roca es braldeba safuZvelSive uaryofili iqna, maSin maT iesos daabrales mkrexeloba, romelic sulier samyaroSi udidesi danaSaulia. maT ifiqres, rom ieso Tavs RmerTad acxadebda, roca Tqva: me da mama erTni varT. qristianebi eTanxmebian iudevelebs amaSi, rom iesom marTlac ganacxada

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aseTi ram, Tumca maTi azriT, es ar aris mkrexeloba, radgan ieso marTlad RmerTia da mas SeeZlo ganecxadebina misi RvTaebriobis Sesaxeb.

qristianebi da iudevelebi darwmunebulni arian am sityvebis udides mniSvnelobaSi. pirvelebisTvis es aris kargi safuZveli maTi xsnisa, xolo meoreTaTvis - uaryofisa. magram ieso TamaSgarea, radgan:

miugo maT iesom: gana Tqvens rjulSi ar giweriaT: me vTqvi, rom RmerTebi xarT? xolo Tu RmerTebi uwoda maT, vis mimarTac iyo RmerTis sityva mas vinc wmida-yo da (werili ki urRvevia), amqveynad moavlina mamam, eubnebiT, RmerTsa gmobo, rakiRa vTqvi, me var Ze RmrTisa? (ioane, 10:34-36)

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ratom "Tqveni rjuli"?

ieso odnav sarkastulia 34-e muxlSi, magram

mainc ratom Tqva man - Tqvens rjulSi? is xom misi

rjulic iyo? gana man ar Tqva: nu ggoniaT, TiTqos

movedi rjulis, ginda winaswarmetyvelTa

gasauqmeblad. gasauqmeblad ki ar movedi, aramed

aRsasruleblad. radganac WeSmaritad geubnebiT

Tqven: sanam ar gadava ca da miwa, erTi iotic an

erTi wertilic ar gadava rjulisagan, sanam

yovelive ar aRsruldeba (maTe, 5:17-18)

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"RmerTebi xarT"?

RmerTebi xarT - aq mas 81 fsalmunis 6

muxlidan mohyavs citata (bibliis inglisur

redaqciebSi fsalmunTa 82:6) - Tqven xarT

RmerTebi da uzenaesis Zeni xarT Tqven yvelani!

ieso agrZelebs - Tu RmerTebi uwoda maT, vis

mimarTac iyo RmrTis sityva, werili ki urRvevia...

(ioane, 10:35). sxva sityvebiT rom vTqvaT, igi

ambobs - Tqven ver SeewinaaRmdegebiT Cems

sityvebs! man icis Tavisi werili da TavdajerebiT

saubrobs: - Tu winaswarmetyvelebs, macneebs da

morwmuneebs ewodebaT RmerTebi Cvens wignebSi,

romelic uryevi avtoritetia TqvenTvis, maSin

ratom gamomarCevT me? me mxolod RvTis Zed

gamovacxade Cemi Tavi, rac bevrad mcire titulia

imasTan Sedarebit, rac Tavad RmerTma uwoda sxvebs

- RmerTeboo. Tundac me Cemi TavisTvis RmerTi

mewodebina, mainc verafer brals ver damdebdiT!ai, es aris iesos sityvebis pirdapiri

mniSvneloba da konteqsti, yovelgvari ezoTeruli

ganmartebebisa da komentarebis gareSe.

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Tavi meSvide: dasabamidan

"maS, sad ambobs ieso - me var RmerTi, an me

var RmerTis Tanaswori, an Tayvani meciT me?"-

vkiTxe kidev erTxel pastor moriss.

man Rrmad CaisunTqa da kidev erTxel scada bedi,

daasaxela yvelaze ufro xSirad gameorebadi muxli

qristianuli bibliidan - ioanes 1:1. dasabamidan

iyo sityva, sityva iyo RmerTTan da RmerTi iyo

sityva.aRsaniSnavia, rom es ar aris iesos sityva. es

aris ioanes sityvebi. am sityvebis pirvelwyaro ki

filon aleqsandrielia, iudeveli filo-sofosi da swavluli, romelmac dawera es sityvebi iesosa da

ioanes dabadebamde. da filons ar gamoucxadebia

isini RvTaebrivi warmoSobis sityvebad. ar viciT,

ra mistikuri da ezoTeruli mniSvneloba Caaqsova

filonma am sityvebSi, sanam ioane gadmoiwerda maT,

Cven SevafasebT maT maTi Rirebulebis Sesabamisad.

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berZnuli, da ara ivriTi

radgan axali aRTqmis ocdaSvidive wignis xelnawerebi berZnuladaa , erT-erTma qristianulma mimdinareobam maT saxelic ki Seucvala da axal aRTqmas qristianobis berZnuli werilebi uwoda! ase rom, me vkiTxe pastors - icoda Tu ara man berZnuli. "diax" - mipasuxa man - me vswavlobdi berZnuls xuTi wlis ganmavlobaSi, is iyo savaldebulo sagani mis saswavlebelSi. maSin me vkiTxe mas - berZnulad rogor weria sityva RmerTi citataSi "sityva iyo RmerTTan"? man gakvirvebiT damiwyo yureba, magram ar upasuxia. me ki vTqvi - es sityvaa hoTeos, rac niSnavs erT konkretul RmerTs (Sdr. ) . The Godradgan evropuli da Crdilo amerikuli sistema iyenebs did asoebs raTa gamoxatos sakuTari saxeli, xolo patara asoebiT - arsebiTi saxelebi. hoTeos - gamoxatavs RmerTs didi asoTi, anu konkretul erT RmerTs.

"axla ki miTxariT" vkiTxe pastors kvlav "ra sityva gamoiyeneba berZnulad RmerTis aRsaniSnavad am frazis meore nawilSi - RmerTi iyo sityva?" pastori kvlav dumda. ar vici ratom - ar icoda berZnuli Tu dabneuli iyo. me vTqvi: "es sityvaa TonTeos, rac niSnavs RmerTs, ganusazRvrelad" (Sdr. ).god

"Tqveni weris sistemis Sesabamisad" ganvagrZe me "Tqven ar unda geTargmnaT orive "RmerTi" am frazaSi, rogorc konkretuli, erTi RmerTi. Tqven ki TargmneT. metic - Tqven 2 korinTelTa 4:4, roca ama soflis RmerTi ganusazRvrel, daukonkretebel RmerTad aqcieT, Tumca pavlem daswera hoTeos, anu konkretuli, erTi RmerTi? Tumca sityva identuria ioanes 1:1-Si pirvelad moxseniebuli RmerTisa. ratom moiqeciT ase?

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Zvel aRTqmaSic aris aseTi ram uTxra ufalma moses - RmerTad damidgenixar faraonisTvis! (gamosvla 7:1) ratom werT aqac ganusazRvrel RmerTs da ara konkretul erT RmerTs, rogorc iqceviT sityvis SemTxvevaSi, roca sityvas aqcevT sakuTar saxelad? ratom akeTebT amas, ratom cdilobT RmerTis sityvis Secvlas?" vkiTxe pastors.

"me ar miqnia es" - Tqva man."vici" vuTxari me: "me vsaubrob qristianobis

Sesaxeb, romlis mizanicaa yvela saSualebiT daamtkicos iesos RmerToba, Secvalos didi da patara asoebi imgvarad, rom es gamovides, rom Seacdinos masebi, romlebic siRrmiseulad ar icnoben sakiTxs da afiqrebinos maT, rom yoveli aso, yoveli sasveni niSani da registri RmerTis nakarnaxevia? konkretuli erTi RmerTisa?”

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Tavi merve: ra darCa?

sami sakiTxi

iseTi mcire publikacia, rogoric Tqvens

winaSea, Znelad warmosadgenia rom srulad da

amomwuravad isaubros yuranSi iesos, RmerTma

dalocos igi, yovel moxseniebaze, romelic 15

suraSia gabneuli. Cven SegviZlia mxolod

lakonurad visaubroT da swrafad gadavavloT

Tvali sam mniSvnelovan sakiTxs:ieso ar ucvamT jvarze (an-nisa, 4:157).misi misia da saswaulebi (al-ma'ida, 5:113;

mariam, 19:30-33)winaswarmetyveleba ahmadis Sesaxeb (61:6). ملسو هيلع هللا ىلصpirveli sakiTxis Sesaxeb arsebibs wigni "jvars

acves Tu ara mesia?" ( ), Was Christ Crucified?

romelic me daaxloebiT oci wlis winaT davwere. is

dRes aRar ibeWdeba da sWirdeba gadamuSaveba,

radgan mravalma wyalma Caiara mas Semdeg, roca

man pirvelad ixila dRis sinaTle.rac Seexeba mesame sakiTxs -

nawinaswarmetyveleb ahmads, , aseve arsebobs wigni ملسو هيلع هللا ىلص

am sakiTxzec - muhammadi, , mesiis memkvidre" ملسو هيلع هللا ىلص

( ).muhammed, ملسو هيلع هللا ىلص, the natural Successor to Christ

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gadarCenis gza

amjerad meore sakiTxs davubrundeT - misia da

saswaulebi. iesos misia iseTive ubralo da advilad

gasagebi iyo, rogorc misi winamorbedebisa da misi

memkvidrisa, muhammadis, . saxeldobr - iwameT ملسو هيلع هللا ىلص

RmerTisa da SeasruleT misi mcnebebi. radgan

RmerTi, romelmac gamogzavna macneebi,

Tanmimdevrulia da ara (1 "aSlilobis RmerTi"

korinTelTa 14:33)rjulis kanonis morCili ebraeli midis

iesosTan da eZebs gzas gadarCenisTvis, am epizods

aRwers maTe:"da aha, viRac miuaxlovda da uTxra: keTilo

moZRvaro, ra sikeTe vqna, rom saukuno sicocxle

mqondes?xolo man miugo: ratom miwodeb me keTils?

aravinaa keTili, garda erTis - RmerTisa, xolo Tu

gsurs Sexvide sicocxleSi, daicavi mcnebani." (maTe,

19:16-17)nebismieri rom am sityvebidan dameTanxmeba,

mxolod erTi azris gamotanaa SesaZlebeli - ieso

ambobs, rom gadarCena SesaZlebelia mcnebebis

dacviT da amisTvis aranairi msxverplSewirva da

jvarcma ar aris saWiro. Tu, rasakvirvelia, ieso ar

laparakobda im faruli azriT, rom misi momavali

Tavganwirva kacobriobis codvebis gamosasyidad, ar

iyo Sors am dRidan.ratom miuTiTa iesom mas Zalian rTulad

Sesasrulebel saqmeze - daecva rjulis mcnebani,

roca arsebobda bevrad ufro advili SesaZlebloba

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- ubralod erwmuna iesosi da misi jvarcma ixsnida

mas da gamoisyidda mis codvebs? nuTu iesom ar

icoda ra eloda? nuTu samyaros Seqmnamde Zesa da

mamas Soris ar yofila es SeTanxmebuli, rom misi

sisxli daiRvreboda kacobriobis codvebis

gamosasyidad? nuTu man mexsiereba dakarga? ara! ar yofila araviTari msgavsi SeTanxmeba

iesosTan. man icoda, rom arsebobs mxolod erTi

gza RmerTisken, mxolod erTi gza gadarCenisa, da

es RvTiuri mcnebebis dacvaa!

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ras gvimtkiceben saswaulebi?

rac Seexeba mis saswaulebs: brZeni yurani Rrma detalebs ar mogviTxrobs brma bartimeossa da lazareze, an sxva nebismier saswaulze, garda Cvili iesos mier dedamisis dacvisa misi mtrebisgan. muslimi uyoymanod iRebs iesos nebismier udides saswauls, maT Soris gardacvlilTa aRdgenasac ki. magram es ar aqcevs iesos RmerTad, an mis mxolod Sobil Zed, rogorc qristianebs warmoudgeniaT.

saswaulebi ar amtkicebs winaswarmetyvelobasa da macneobasac ki, an imas, kaci marTalia Tu matyuara, iesom Tavad Tqva:

"radgan aRdgebian cruqristeni da cruwinaswarmetyvelni, da moaxdenen did saswaulebsa da niSebs, raTa acdunon, Tuki SesZles, TviTon rCeulnic." (maTe, 24:24)

Tu cru winaswarmetyvelebsa da cruqristeebs SeuZliaT didi saswaulebisa da niSebis moxdena, ese igi saswaulebi ar aris niSani imisa, winaswarmetyveli namdvilia Tu cru.ioane naTlismcemeli, iesos sityvebis mixedviT, winaswarmetyvelTa Soris udidesia, ufro didi, vidre mose, daviTi, solomoni, esaia da yvela, maT Soris Tavadac. misi sityvebia:

"WeSmaritad geubnebiT Tqven: dedisgan Sobili arvin aRmdgara ioane naTlismcemelze umetesi..." (maTe, 11:11)

maT Soris Tavad iesocaa, radgan isic dedis, mariamis mier iyo Sobili.

ioane yvelaze udidesia, Tumca arc erTi saswauli ar mouxdenia! saswaulebi ar aris Sefasebis kriteriumi winaswarmetyvelTa da macneTasididisa.

magram qristiani bavSvuri sijiutiT amtkicebs

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iesos RvTaebriobas, radgan ieso aRadgenda gardacvlilebs. nuTu gardacvlilTa aRdgena sxvebsac RmerTad aqcevs? igi Tavs gaurkvevlobaSi igdebs, raTa Tvals xuWavs sxvebis xeliT moxdenil ufro did saswaulebze, romlebic Crdilaven iesosac ki bibliaSi. am cru kriteriumis mixedviT, RmerTebi arian:

mose - man usicocxlo joxi cocxal gvelad aqcia (gamosvla, 7:10).

elise - roca gardacvlili elises Zvlebs Seexo, mas myisve daubrunda sicocxle (4 mefeTa 13:21).

saWiroa saswaulebis mTeli katalogis CamoTvla? magram sijiute grZeldeba - sxva winaswarmetyvelebi da macneebi RmerTis ZaliT axdendnen saswaulebs, xolo ieso - Tavad! marTlac ase iyo? saidan hqonda iesos saswaulebis moxdenis Zala? modi Tavad misgan movisminoT pasuxi:

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Zala ar aris misi

"... momeca me mTeli xelmwifeba cazedac da

miwazedac" (maTe, 28:18)."... Tu me RmerTis suliT vaZeveb eSmakT,

mouwevia Tqvenamdec RvTis sasufevels" (maTe,

12:28)"me araferi SemiZlia Cemda Tavad..." (ioane,

5:30)"... Tu me RmerTis TiTiT eSmakT..."vaZeveb

(luka, 11:20)amgvarad, Zala, romelsac is flobs, misi ar

aris, is mieca mas. visgan mieca? RmerTisgan, ra Tqma

unda. yoveli misi qmedeba da sityva adasturebs

amas.

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lazare

radgan iesos udidesi saswaulis, lazares

mkvdreTiT aRdginebis Sesaxeb amdenia nasaubrebi da

dawerili, amitomac ufro dawvrilebiT ganvixiloT

es epizodi, rogorc mas aRwers ioane. aRsaniSnavi

da gasakviria, rom arc erTi sxva saxareba ar

moixseniebs lazares arc erT konteqstSi. ambavi

iwyeba imiT, rom lazare iyo mZimed avadmyofi, misi

debi - mariami da marTa sTxovdnen iesos, stumrad

misuliyo maTTan da ganekurna maTi Zma. Tumca iesos

daagvianda - roca igi mivida, lazare oTxi dRis

gardacvlili iyo.

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igi dardobda

marTam SesCivla iesos, misi droze mosvlis

SemTxvevaSi misi Zma gadarCeboda. Tu mas SeeZlo

sxva sneulTa gankurneba, igi SeZlebda lazares,

Tavisi megobris gankurnebasac. iesom miugo, rom mas

SeeZlo mieca saukuno sicocxle maTTvis, vinc

irwmunebda mis sityvebs. Semdeg mariamma SesCivla

iesos - droze rom mosuliyavi, lazares

gadaarCendio. iesom miugo - "Tu iwameb, ixilav

RvTis didebas". piroba iyo rwmena. gana iesom ar

Tqva, rom rwmenas SeuZlia mTebis SeZvra?

igi iTxovs waiyvanon saflavTan. gzaSi igi

danaRvlianebuli iyo da tiroda, Tan RmerTs

evedreboda. RmerTmac Seismina misi mwuxare

vedreba, da rodesac ieso darwmunda, rom RmerTma

Seismina misi vedreba, man ubrZana gadaegorebinaT

lodi, romelic saflavSi Sesasvlels ketavda.

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rogor gaveqceT araswor interpretacias?

mariami fiqrobs, rom oTxi dRis

gardacvlils, ukve suni eqneba da amitom ar surs

saflavis gaxsna, magram ieso Tavdajerebulia da

lodsac gadaagoreben. Semdeg ieso aixedavs zecisken

da ambobs:"mamao, gmadlob rom mismine. me ki vicodi,

rom yovelTvis mismen, magram es irgvliv mdgomi

xalxis gasagonad vTqvi, raTa irwmunon, rom Sen

momavline." (ioane, 11:41-42)ra aris es? speqtakli? ratom moiqca igi ase?

radgan man icoda, rom es crumorwmune adamianebi

arasworad gaigebdnen saswaulis wyaros. isini

gaaRmerTebdnen mas! mkvdreTiT aRdgena xom

mxolod da mxolod RmerTis prerogativaa? imaSi

sabolood dasarwmuneblad, rom adamianebi sworad

gaigebdnen, igi xmamaRla ambobs rom mwuxareba

mxolod RmerTisadmi vedreba iyo. SeiZleba iq

myofebma verc gaiges is vedreba, magram RmerTma

Seismina igi - "gmadlob, rom mismine..."

metic - igi ambobs "me ki vicodi, rom yovelTvis

mismen..." sxvagvarad rom vTqvaT, yoveli misi

saswauli RmerTis pasuxia mis vedrebaze.

iudevelebs es kargad esmodaT, da amitomac "RmerTs

adidebdnen, romelmac amxela Zala misca adamianebs"

(maTe, 9:8)ieso aseve xsnis imasac, ratom saubrobda

xmamaRla. igi ambobs - raTa irwmunon, rom Sen

momavline. is, vinc moavlines, aris macne, xolo Tu

momvlinebeli RmerTia, maSin igi aris RmerTis

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macne, anu "rasulu l-lahi". iesos yuranSi swored

"rasulu l-lahi" ewodeba.samwuxarod, iesos mcdeloba, rom aeridebina

araswori interpretacia am saswaulis wyaros

Sesaxeb, warumateblad dasrulda. qristianebi ar

iReben rogorc iesos araorazrovan naTqvams, aseve

pirdapir da cxad miTiTebas petresgan, kldisgan,

romelzec iesom aago misi eklesia. petrem Tqva:"kacno israelTano, ismineT es sityvebi: ieso

nazoreveli, kaci Tqvendami movlinebuli RvTis

ZaliT, niSebiT da saswaulebiT, mis mier rom

moaxdina RmerTma Tqvens Soris, rogorc TviTonve

uwyiT" (saqmeni, 2:22)

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saqme ar aris uimedod

zustad igive gzavnils imeorebs uzenaesi

RmerTi brZen yuranSi, mesame suris, aal 'imranis

49 aiaSi igi gveubneba, rom yoveli saswauli,

romelic iesom moaxdina, RmerTis mier misTvis

miniWebuli Zalis Sedegi iyo. iesoc ambobs igives,

petrec ambobs igive da RmerTic ambobs igives.

magram jiuti adamiani ubralod ar usmens maT.

winaswarganwyobebi rTuli gadasa-laxavia. Cveni

mizani da movaleoba ki aris rom movuwodoT maT

da mivawodoT informacia, danarCeni ki RvTis

xelSia. radgan saqme ase uimedodac ar aris, radgan

RmerTi ambobs:"maT Soris arian wrfeli morwmuneebic, magram

umetesoba sijiutiT gzaabneula" (aal 'imran, 3:110)"maT Soris", rac niSnavs qristianTa da

iudevelTa Soris, aris ori jgufi adamianTa -

wrfeli morwmuneebi, romelTaTvisac aris es wigni,

xolo meore jgufi gzaabneuli jiutebisaa. Cven

unda vecadoT maTTan misasvleli gzebis Ziebasac.

Cven vcdilobT amas, gadaeciT es wigni Tqvens

aramuslim megobrebs wakiTxvis Semdeg.gadauSaleT maT yurani da Tavisi TvaliT

waakiTxeT is surebi da aiebi, rac ganxilulia am

wignSi. Semdeg ki Cven SegveZleba gulmarTlad

davaskvnaT:"aseTi iyo ieso, Ze mariamisa, WeSmaritebis

sityva, romlis Sesaxeb isini kvlav kamaToben, ar

Seefereba RmerTs hyavdes Ze! didebulia igi amaze.

roca igi gadawyvets rames, ityvis - iyav, da igi

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iqneba, ueWvelad, RmerTi aris Cemi ufali da Tqveni

ufali. maS, emsaxureT mas. esaa pirdapiri gza"

(mariam, 19:34-36)

dasasruls, qeba-dideba samyaros Semoqmeds,

misi locva-kurTxeva mis macneebsa da gulmarTal

msaxurebs. RmerTs SevTxovT mis mowyalebasa da

pirdapir gzas.

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mTargmnelis winasityvaoba......................................................1

Tavi pirveli

qristianul-muslimuri pasuxebisatelevizio debatebi...................................................................3ieso da misi statusi......................................................................4sasiamovno gakvirveba....................................................................5CaTesili gaucxoeba........................................................................6qristianobis okeane........................................................................7

Tavi meore

ieso yuranSira ar ician qristianebma.............................................................8ieso da misi titulebi..................................................................9misi saxeli............................................................................................10

Tavi mesame

deda da vaJimariami yuranSi...................................................................................11RvTiuri gamocxadeba...................................................................12mariamis dabadeba.............................................................................13gamocxadebis wyaro.......................................................................14sara da agari........................................................................................16sura mariami..........................................................................................17

sarCevi

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Tavi meoTxe

xareba..........................................................................................................18qriste ar aris saxeli................................................................19zogierTi gansakuTrebuli tituli..............................21gancvifrebuli iudevelebi...................................................22pirveli saswaulebi......................................................................23“deda” Tu “dedakaco”?................................................................25iesos icaven..........................................................................................26

Tavi mexuTe

yuranisa da bibliis versiebiSexvedra pastorTan......................................................................27carci da yveli..................................................................................29didi dramaturgi.............................................................................30bibliis versia....................................................................................31yuranis versia....................................................................................32arCevani qaliSvilisTvis.........................................................33rogorc adami......................................................................................34pavles saqmeni......................................................................................35RvTis Zeebi.............................................................................................37mizezebi miuReblobisa..............................................................39Canergili arasrulfasovneba.............................................40

Tavi mexuTe

qristianuli dilemebis pasuxad.......................................41gadaWarbeba...........................................................................................42gonieri alternativa...................................................................43iesos sityva..........................................................................................44pastori sufrasTan.......................................................................46konteqstidan amogleja............................................................47rogoria konteqsti?.....................................................................48ratom “Tqveni rjuli”?..............................................................52“RmerTebi xarT”?..............................................................................53

Tavi meSvide

dasabamidan............................................................................................54berZnuli , da ara ivriTi...........................................................55

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Tavi merve

ra darCa?sami sakiTxi...........................................................................................57gadarCenis gza....................................................................................58ras gvimtkiceben saswaulebi?.............................................60Zala ar aris misi.............................................................................62lazare.......................................................................................................63igi dardobda......................................................................................64rogor gaveqceT araswor interpretacias?............65saqme ar aris uimedod.................................................................67

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