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Babylonian Talmud: Tractate
ShabbathFolio 122a
Such as those of your father’s house, he replied.1
R. Abba b. Kahana also said in R. Hanina’s name: The litters2 of
Rabbi’s household may be handled on the Sabbath. R. Zera asked him:
[Does that mean] those that can be moved with one hand, or [even] with
two hands? Such as those of your father’s house, replied he.
R. Abba b. Kahana also said: R. Hanina permitted Rabbis household to
drink wine [carried]3 in gentile coaches4 [sealed] with one seal,5 and I
do not know whether it is because he agrees with R. Eliezer 6 or because
of the [Gentile’s] fear of the Nasi’s household.7
MISHNAH . IF A GENTILE LIGHTS A LAMP, AN ISRAELITE MAY
MAKE USE OF ITS LIGHT; BUT IF [HE DOES IT] FOR THE SAKE
OF THE ISRAELITE, IT IS FORBIDDEN. IF HE DRAWS WATER 8
TO GIVE HIS OWN ANIMAL, TO DRINK, AN ISRAELITE MAY
WATER [HIS] AFTER HIM; BUT IF [HE DRAWS IT] FOR THE
ISRAELITES SAKE, IT IS FORBIDDEN. IF A GENTILE MAKES A
STAIRWAY TO DESCEND BY IT,9 AN ISRAELITE MAY
DESCEND AFTER HIM; BUT IF ON THE ISRAELITES ACCOUNT,
IT IS FORBIDDEN. IT ONCE HAPPENED THAT R. GAMALIEL
AND THE ELDERS WERE TRAVELING IN A SHIP, WHEN A
GENTILE MADE A STAIRWAY FOR GOING DOWN, AND R.GAMALIEL, AND THE ELDERS DESCENDED BY IT.
GEMARA. Now these are [all] necessary. For if we were informed
[about] a lamp, that is because a lamp for one is a lamp for a hundred;
but as for water, [I might say] let us forbid it,10 lest he come to increase
[the quantity drawn] on the Israelite’s account.11 What is the need of
[the ruling about] a stairway?12 He tells us the story of R. Gamaliel and
the elders.
Our Rabbis taught: if a Gentile gathers herbs,13 an Israelite may feed
[his cattle therewith] after him, but if [he gathers] on the Israelite’s
account, it is forbidden. If he draws water to give his cattle to drink, an
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Israelite may water [his] after him, but if on the Israelite’s account, it is
forbidden. When is that? If he does not know him; but if he knows him
it is forbidden. But that is not so? For R. Huna said in R. Hanina’s name:
A man may stand his cattle on grass on the Sabbath,14 but not on
mukzeh15 on the Sabbath!16 — It means that he stands in front of it [the
animal],17 and so it goes [there] and eats.
The Master said: ’When is that? If he does not know him; but if he
knows him, it is forbidden.’ But R. Gamaliel [is a case where] he knew
him?18 — Said Abaye: It was not [made] in his presence.19 Raba said:
You may even say that it was in his presence: ’a lamp for one is a lamp
for a hundred.’20 An objection is raised: R. Gamaliel said to them,
’Since he did not make it in our presence, let us go down by it?’ — Say:
’Since he made it, let us go down by it.’
Come and hear: If a city inhabited by Israelites and Gentiles contains
baths where there is bathing on the Sabbath, if the majority are Gentiles,
one [an Israelite] may bathe therein immediately;21 if the majority are
Israelites, one must walt until hot water could be heated.22 — There,
when they heat, they do so with a view to the majority.23
Come and hear: If a lamp is burning at a banqueting party:24 if the
majority are Gentiles, one may make use of its light; if the majority are
Israelites, it is forbidden; if half and half, it is forbidden?25
— Theretoo, when they light it,
To Part b
Original footnotes renumbered.
Small ones. But heavy ones generally have an appointed place and may not be
moved.
1.
For carrying people.2.
V. MS.M.3. Left in the charge of Gentiles.4.
To prevent the Gentiles from tampering with it. Normally two seals are
required.
5.
In A.Z. 31a, that for wine only one seal is required.6.
Which would prevent the Gentile from tampering with the wine.7.
From a pit in the street.8.
Rashi: a gangway from a large ship to dry land.9.
Even when the Gentile draws it for his own use.10.
Whilst ostensibly drawing it for himself.11.
That is analogous to a lamp — the same stairway suffices for many as for one.12.As animal fodder.13.
I.e., on grass attached to the soil, and we do not fear that he may thereby come
to cut grass for his animal.
14.
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