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wmida grigol dioloRosi dialoRoni saubrebi italieli mamebis cxovrebisa da sulis ukvdavebis Sesaxeb Tbilisi 2006

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Page 1: wmida grigol dioloRosi dialoRoni - eparchy-batumi.ge · T av i mecxramete. damaluli xelsaxocebi, romelTa Sesaxeb wmida benediqtem Seityo.....92 T av i meoce. monazonis ampartavnuli

wmida grigol dioloRosi

dialoRoni

saubrebi

italieli mamebis cxovrebisa

da

sulis ukvdavebis Sesaxeb

Tbilisi

2006

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daibeWda

baTumisa da sxalTis

mTavarepiskopos dimitris (SiolaSvili)

locva-kurTxeviT

Targmna Tamar erisTavma

redaqtori: nino kvantaliani

mxatvrebi: mariam CxaiZe, nino mkervaliZe

Targmani Sesrulebulia wignidan:

Святого отца нашего Григория Двоеслова епископа Римского "Собеседования о жизни италийских отцов

и о безсмертии души". М. 1996 gamoyenebulia agreTve wm. efTvime aToneliseuli

Targmani

gamomcemeli: asociacia `kviriake~

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S i n a arsi

wmida grigol didi, dioloRosi..................................................................9

wigni pirveli .......................................................................................11

T a v i pirveli. honorati, fundis monastris iRumeni.......................... 15

T a v i meore. libertini, imave monastris ekonomosi............................ 17

T a v i mesame. monazoni, romelic imave monasterSi mebaRe iyo ........... 22

T a v i meoTxe. ekvici, romelic monastris winamZRvari iyo

valeriis olqSi............................................................................................ 24

T a v i mexuTe. konstantine, wmida stefanes taZris mnaTe .................... 33

T a v i meeqvse. ankonis episkoposi marcelini..........................................36

T a v i meSvide. nonozi, saraqtis mTis monastris ekonomosi ...............37

T a v i merve. anastasi _ supentonis monastris winamZRvari ...............39

T a v i mecxre. bonifaci, Terentis episkoposi ...................................... 42

T a v i meaTe. tudertis episkoposi fortunate .....................................50

T a v i meTerTmete. valeriis olqis mkvidri monazoni martiri .........58

T a v i meTormete. imave olqis presviteri severosi ............................58

wigni meore ............................................................................................62 T a v i pirveli. saswauli, romelic wmida benediqtem

gatexil sacerze aRasrula ........................................................................63

T a v i meore. Zleuli xorcieli aRZvris Sesaxeb ..................................66

T a v i mesame. minis WurWeli, romelic jvris gamosaxviT

daimsxvra ........................................................................................................68

T a v i meoTxe. gonebagafantuli monazoni, romelic

cxonebis gzas daubrunda.............................................................................73

T a v i mexuTe. wmida benediqtes locviT mTis mwvervalze,

kldeSi aRmocenebuli wyaro...................................................................... 74

T a v i meeqvse. celi, romelic wylis siRrmidan tars daubrunda......75

T a v i meSvide. wmida benediqtes mowafe mavri,

romelmac wyaldawyal ise iara, rom TviTon ar icoda .........................75

T a v i merve. rogor waiRo yvavma Sxamiani puri .....................................76

T a v i mecxre. wmindanis locviT aziduli qva ........................................ 81

T a v i meaTe. warmosaxviTi xanZari ........................................................... 81

T a v i meTerTmete. monazoni, romelic Camoqceulma kedelma

moiyola da wmida benediqtes locviT daubrunda sicocxle................82

T a v i meTormete. monazvnebi, romelTac senakis gareT

miiRes sazrdeli ........................................................................................... 83

T a v i mecamete. wmida mosagrem Seicno, rom monazon

valentinianes Zmam gzaSi saWmeli miiRo...................................................84

T a v i meToTxmete. mefe totilas TvalTmaqcoba, romelic

wmindanma amxila............................................................................................85

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T a v i meTxuTmete. winaswarmetyveleba, romelic igive

mefe totilas da qalaq kanuziumis episkoposis

mimarT gamoiTqva ...........................................................................................86

T a v i meTeqvsmete. demonisagan droebiT gankurnebuli

klerikosi ......................................................................................................87

T a v i meCvidmete. winaswarmetyveleba monastris dangrevis

Sesaxeb, romelic wmida mamam gamoTqva ..................................................... 91

T a v i meTvramete. gadamaluli WurWeli, romlis Sesaxeb

wmida mamam suliT Seicno ............................................................................92

T a v i mecxramete. damaluli xelsaxocebi, romelTa

Sesaxeb wmida benediqtem Seityo ................................................................92

T a v i meoce. monazonis ampartavnuli gulisTqma, romelic

wmida mamam Seicno .........................................................................................93

T a v i ocdameerTe. orasi sawyao fqvili, romelic

SimSilobis dros wmida mosagris senakTan aRmoaCines ......................... 94

T a v i ocdameore. teracinis monastris aSeneba, rogorc

amis Sesaxeb xilvaSi emcno wmida benediqtes...........................................95

T a v i ocdamesame. ori monazoni, romlebic wmida benediqtes

mier evqaristiaze aRvlenili locviT sikvdilis Semdgom

eklesiis wiaRSi iqnen dabrunebulni ...................................................... 97

T a v i ocdameoTxe. yrma monazoni, romelsac dakrZalvis

Semdeg miwa ganagdebda................................................................................ 100

T a v i ocdamexuTe. monazoni, romelsac monastridan

gasvlis Semdeg urCxuli Sexvda .............................................................. 100

T a v i ocdameeqvse. keTrisgan gankurnebuli yrma................................ 101

T a v i ocdameSvide. oqros monetebi, romlebic movalem

saswaulebrivad aRmoaCina ......................................................................... 101

T a v i ocdamerve. minis WurWeli, romelic qvaze daenarcxa

da ar daimsxvra ........................................................................................... 102

T a v i ocdamecxre. zeTiT avsebuli carieli kasri ............................ 103

T a v i ocdameaTe. demonisgan daxsnili monazoni .................................104

T a v i ocdameTerTmete. glexi, romelic wmindanis

SexedviT Rvedebisagan gaTavisuflda...................................................... 106

T a v i ocdameTormete. micvalebulis mkvdreTiT aRdgena ................. 108

T a v i ocdamecamete. saswauli, romelic wmida benediqtes

dam, sqolastikam, aRasrula..................................................................... 109

T a v i ocdameToTxmete. dis suli, romelic wmida

benediqtem sxeulidan gansvlis Jams ixila ............................................ 111

T a v i ocdameTxuTmete. mTeli qveyniereba, romelic

wmindans Tvalwin warmoudga; qalaq kapuis episkopos

germanes sulis Sesaxeb ...............................................................................112

T a v i ocdameTeqvsmete. wmida benediqtes mier

monazonTaTvis dawerili ganweseba.......................................................... 114

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T a v i ocdameCvidmete. wmida benediqtes aRsasruli,

romelic Zmebis winaSe TviTon iwinaswarmetyvela................................115

T a v i ocdameTvramete. gondakarguli dedakaci, romelic

mRvimeSi ganikurna .......................................................................................116

wigni mesame T a v i pirveli. polanis episkoposi pavlini ..........................................118

T a v i meore. wmida papi ioane................................................................... 122

T a v i mesame. wmida papi aRapite .............................................................. 123

T a v i meoTxe. mediolanis episkoposi daci ...........................................124

T a v i mexuTe. kanuzis episkoposi sabini................................................ 125

T a v i meeqvse. narnis episkoposi kasi ..................................................... 127

T a v i meSvide. fundis episkoposi andria.............................................. 128

T a v i merve. akviniumis episkoposi konstanci.......................................131

T a v i mecxre. lukis episkoposi frigdiane .......................................... 132

T a v i meaTe. qalaq piaCencas episkoposi sabini..................................... 132

T a v i meTerTmete. populenis episkoposi qerboni .............................. 133

T a v i meTormete. utrikulas episkoposi fulgenci .......................... 136

T a v i mecamete. peruzis episkoposi herkulani ................................... 137

T a v i meToTxmete. RmrTis mona isaaki ................................................... 138

T a v i meTxuTmete. RmrTis monani _ evtiqi da florenci..................144

T a v i meTeqvsmete. marsis mTis monazoni martini ............................... 150

T a v i meCvidmete. argentaris mTis monazoni,

romelmac micvalebuli mkvdreTiT aRadgina......................................... 153

T a v i meTvramete. monazoni benediqte ................................................... 157

T a v i mecxramete. veronel mRvdelmowame zenonis taZari................ 158

T a v i meoce. stefane, valeriis olqis presviteri ............................ 159

T a v i ocdameerTe. enkratisi, romelmac erTi sityviT

ixsna adamiani boroti sulisgan .............................................................. 160

T a v i ocdameore. valeriis olqis presviteri, romelmac

qurdi SeaCera Tavis samaresTan ............................................................... 162

T a v i ocdamesame. prenestis mTis winamZRvari da misi

presviteri ................................................................................................... 163

T a v i ocdameoTxe. mnaTe Teodore, romelic romSi, wmida

mociqul petres taZarSi msaxurobda..................................................... 165

T a v i ocdamexuTe. akonci, wmida mociqul petres imave

taZris paramonari ...................................................................................... 166

T a v i ocdameeqvse. gandegili mina .......................................................... 167

T a v i ocdameSvide. ormoci glexi, romlebic longobardebma

imis gamo daxoces, rom nakerpavis Wamaze Tqves uari .......................... 170

T a v i ocdamerve. mravali tyve, romlebmac Txis Tavs

ar sces Tayvani da amoxoces...................................................................... 170

T a v i ocdamecxre. dabrmavebuli ariozeli episkoposi .................... 172

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T a v i ocdameaTe. ariozelTa taZari,

romelic marTlmadidebelTaTvis ikurTxa............................................ 173

T a v i ocdameTerTmete. vestguTebis mefe liuvihildis Ze,

mefe herminihildi, romelic mamam kaTolike (sayovelTao,

anu marTlmadidebluri) sarwmunoebis gamo mokla ............................. 175

T a v i ocdameTormete. afrikeli episkoposebi,

romlebic Tavisuflad laparakobdnen miuxedavad imisa,

rom barbarosma ariozelebma enebi amokveTes maT kaTolike

sarwmunoebis dacvisaTvis ......................................................................... 178

T a v i ocdamecamete. RmrTis mona elefTeri ........................................ 179

T a v i ocdameToTxmete. ramdeni saxis gulSemusvrileba

arsebobs? ...................................................................................................... 182

T a v i ocdameTxuTmete. amanci, tusciis olqis presviteri ............. 184

T a v i ocdameTeqvsmete. sirakuzis episkoposi maqsimiane .................. 185

T a v i ocdameCvidmete. sanktula, nursiis olqis presviteri.......... 187

T a v i ocdameTvramete. ferentis episkopos redemptis xilva.......... 194

wigni meoTxe T a v i pirveli. xorciel adamianebs maradiuli da sulieri ar

swamT, imitom, rom gamocdilebiT ar ician sulieris Sesaxeb........... 196

T a v i meore. rwmena urwmunosac aqvs..................................................... 198

T a v i mesame. sicocxlis samgvari sulis Seqmnis Sesaxeb .................. 199

T a v i meoTxe. solomonis sityvebi: kacis da pirutyvis

xvedri (aRsasruli) erTia ...................................................................... 200

T a v i mexuTe. arsebobs Tu ara suli, Tuki sxeulidan gasvlis

Jams misi xilva SeuZlebelia ................................................................... 204

T a v i meeqvse. rogorc sxeulSi myofi sulis sicocxle

Seicnoba asoTa moZraobiT, aseve wmindanis sxeulis sikvdilis

Semdeg sulis sicocxle saswaulTa aRsrulebiT Seicnoba ................205

T a v i meSvide. sulis sxeulidan gasvlis Sesaxeb ...............................208

T a v i merve. monazon speciozis sulis gasvla .................................... 209

T a v i mecxre. erTi tusaRis sulis Sesaxeb......................................... 209

T a v i meaTe. winamZRvar spesis sulis gantevebis Sesaxeb .................. 210

T a v i meTerTmete. nursieli presviteris sulis gantevebis

Sesaxeb........................................................................................................... 212

T a v i meTormete. qalaq reaTis episkopos probis sulis Sesaxeb ...... 213

T a v i mecamete. RmrTismsaxur galas aRsasruli................................214

T a v i meToTxmete. dambladacemul servulas aRsasruli ................. 216

T a v i meTxuTmete. RmrTismsaxur romulas aRsasruli..................... 217

T a v i meTeqvsmete. monazon Tarsilas aRsasruli.............................. 220

T a v i meCvidmete. yrma muzas aRsasruli............................................... 221

T a v i meTvramete. zogierT yrmas mSoblebi cudi aRzrdiT

uketaven caTa sasufevlis kars; RmrTismgmobi yrmis Sesaxeb........... 222

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T a v i mecxramete. RmrTismosavi mosagris, stefanes, aRsasruli .....223

T a v i meoce. sulis damsaxureba zogjer cxadad gamoCndeba

ara aRsasrulis Jams, aramed _ sikvdilis Semdeg................................225

T a v i ocdameerTe. winamZRvar valentis ori monazoni ......................225

T a v i ocdameore. iRumen suranis aRsasruli ......................................226

T a v i ocdamesame. marsiis eklesiis diakvnis aRsasruli ..................226

T a v i ocdameoTxe. beTilSi gagzavnili wmida mosagris

aRsasruli................................................................................................... 227

T a v i ocdamexuTe. miiRebian Tu ara zecaSi marTalTa

sulebi sxeulTa mkvdreTiT aRdgomamde? ...............................................228

T a v i ocdameeqvse. rogor winaswarmetyveleben momakvdavi

adamianebi? monazvnebi _ geronti da meleti da yrma armentari.......229

T a v i ocdameSvide. mmarTvel feliqsis aRsasruli ........................... 233

T a v i ocdamerve. gvmarTebs virwmunoT, rom rogorc

srulyofilTa sulebi mkvidroben zecaSi, aseve codvilTa

sulebi sxeulTan gayris Semdeg jojoxeTSi mkvidrdebian ................235

T a v i ocdamecxre. rogor warmovidginoT, rom usxeulo

sulebi Semwyvdeulni arian nivTier cecxlSi?.....................................236

T a v i ocdameaTe. ariozeli mefe Teodorikes aRsasruli.................238

T a v i ocdameTerTmete. reparatis aRsasruli....................................239

T a v i ocdameTormete. kurialis aRsasruli, romlis

saflavic daiwva ......................................................................................... 240

T a v i ocdamecamete. Seicnoben Tu ara keTili adamianebi

erTmaneTs caTa sasufevelSi da borotebi _

borotebs jojoxeTSi? ............................................................................... 242

T a v i ocdameToTxmete. RmrTismosavi mosagre, romelmac

sikvdilis Jams winaswarmetyvelebi ixila ........................................... 244

T a v i ocdameTxuTmete. erTmaneTisTvis ucnob adamianTa sulebi,

romelTac erTnairi sasjeli miiRes codvebisTvis an

erTnairi jildo _ saTnoebebisTvis, cnoben erTmaneTs sikvdilis

Jams; ioanesa da ursis, evmorfisa da stefanes aRsasruli.................. 245

T a v i ocdameTeqvsmete. sulebis Sesaxeb, romlebic, TiTqos

mxolod moCvenebiTad gadian sxeulidan; monazon

petres gardacvaleba da gacocxleba; stefanes sikvdili

da mkvdreTiT aRdgoma; erTi meomris xilva ......................................... 249

T a v i ocdameCvidmete. ras niSnavs saxlis ageba mSvenier

adgilze? deusdediti, romlis saxli, xilvis Tanaxmad,

mxolod SabaTobiT Sendeboda. sodomelTa sasjelis Sesaxeb ............253

T a v i ocdameTvramete. jer kidev sxeulSi myofi sulebi

nawilobriv xedaven momaval sasjels; yrma Teodores

Sesaxeb; qrisaorisa da ikonieli monazvnis aRsasruli ......................255

T a v i ocdamecxramete ..............................................................................259

T a v i meormoce. diakvan pasxazis sulis Sesaxeb ................................ 260

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T a v i ormocdameerTe. ratom gvecxadeba bolo dros

sulebis Sesaxeb bevri ram, rac aqamde ar iyo cnobili? ..................... 261

T a v i ormocdameore. sad unda vigulisxmoT jojoxeTi?..................263

T a v i ormocdamesame. jojoxeTis cecxli erTia

Tu _ sxvadasxvagvari?............................................................................... 264

T a v i ormocdameoTxe. maradiulad daiwvebian cecxlovan

geeniaSi Cagdebuli codvilebi?................................................................265

T a v i ormocdamexuTe. ratom ewodeba suls ukvdavi,

rodesac cnobilia, rom mas sikvdili aqvs misjili? ...........................268

T a v i ormocdameeqvse. wmida mosagre, romelic Zrwoda

sikvdilis Jams .............................................................................................269

T a v i ormocdameSvide. zogierTs sikvdilis SiSis

dasaZlevad gamocxadebani ganamtkicebs; monazonTa _

antonis, merulasa da ioanes Sesaxeb.......................................................269

T a v i ormocdamerve. Tvalyuri unda vadevnoT Tu ara

sizmreul Cvenebebs da ramdengvaria sizmreuli Cveneba?.................... 271

T a v i ormocdamecxre. adamiani, romelsac ZilSi

xangrZlivi sicocxle aRuTqves, magram mokle xanSi aResrula........273

T a v i ormocdameaTe. sasargebloa Tu ara sulisTvis

sxeulis taZarSi dakrZalva?....................................................................273

T a v i ormocdameTerTmete. wmida lavrentis taZarSi

dakrZaluli enkratisi, romelic taZris mcvels

gamocxadebaSi naxevrad damwvari sxeuliT eCvena ............................... 274

T a v i ormocdameTormete. patric valerianes dakrZalva ................275

T a v i ormocdamecamete. valentinis sxeulis Sesaxeb,

romelic dakrZalvis Semdeg gamotanil iqna taZridan .......................275

T a v i ormocdameToTxmete. taZarSi dakrZaluli mRebavis

sxeuli iq ver naxes ....................................................................................276

T a v i ormocdameTxuTmete. ram SeiZleba moutanos

sargebloba micvalebulTa sulebs? centumceleli

presviterisa da monazon iustis sulis Sesaxeb...................................277

T a v i ormocdameTeqvsmete. narnis episkopos kasis

cxovreba da aRsasruli ............................................................................. 281

T a v i ormocdameCvidmete. mtrebis mier datyvevebuli

kaci, romelsac misTvis aRsrulebuli msxverplSewirvis

Semdeg borkilebi dascvivda .....................................................................282

T a v i ormocdameTvramete. macxovnebeli msxverplis Zala

da saidumlo.................................................................................................284

T a v i ormocdamecxramete. gulis SemusvrilebisaTvis

wmida saidumlos Sewirvis Jams da gonebis

sifxizlisaTvis ziarebis Semdgom...........................................................285

T a v i mesamoce. sxvaTa codvebis mitevebisTvis, raTa Cvenc

Segvendos Cveni codvebi .............................................................................285

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wmida grigol didi, dioloRosi

wmida grigoli, romis episkoposi, dioloRosad wo-

debuli, VI s-is II naxevarSi cxovrobda. is warCinebul

romaelTa Camomavali iyo, Sinaganad asketur cxovrebas

eswrafoda, ukve adreul asakSi datova qoneba da amqvey-

niuri pativi, monazvnad Sedga da male daimkvidra mkac-

ri moRvawis saxeli. monazvnuri cxovrebis TiTqmis oci

wlis manZilze wmida grigoli sxvadasxva monasters wi-

namZRvrobda da romis samRvdelo dasSi sxva didi saek-

lesio Tanamdebobebic ekava. bolos, 590 wels, mrevlisa

da samRvdelo krebulis daJinebuli da erTsulovani

TxovniT, aRyvanil iqna romis saepiskoposo kaTedraze.

wmida grigoli 14 wlis manZilze emsaxureboda am maRal

wodebas. is mudam dauRalavad iRvwoda ara marto Tavi-

si, aramed kaTolike (sayovelTao) eklesiis keTildRe-

obisaTvis. amis dasturad gamodgeba: brZnuli moqmedeba,

romliTac dasavleTSi V msoflio saeklesio krebis ga-

dawyvetilebebTan dakavSirebuli dava Caacxro; dona-

tistebis mwvaleblobis aRmosafxvrelad miRebuli

mkacri da gonivruli zomebi; dauRalavi zrunva saekle-

sio msaxurebis keTilganwesebisaTvis; qristianuli

rwmenis ganvrcobisaTvis gaweuli Rvawli inglisSi, ra-

mac wmida grigols am qveyanaSi mociqulisa da ganmanaT-

leblis saxeli daumkvidra. qristianuli eklesiis wi-

naSe am mRvdelmTavris damsaxureba imdenad mniSvnelo-

vani da mravalferovania, rom kaTolike eklesiam igi

wmindanad Seracxa, xolo miukerZoebelma istoriam sa-

xelad _ didi daumkvidra.

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wmida grigolis damsaxureba kaTolike eklesiis wi-

naSe aris agreTve misi mravalricxovani da mravalfe-

rovani nawerebi, romlebSic ganmartebulia wmida weri-

li, mocemulia swavlebebi qristianuli WeSmaritebebis

Sesaxeb, aRwerilia mamaTa cxovrebani da saswaulebi,

ganxilulia eklesiaSi im dros mimdinare movlenebi.

winamdebare wignSi gTavazobT wmida grigol diolo-

Rosis saubars petre diakvanTan, italiel mamaTa cxov-

rebasa da saswaulebze. es wigni mudam sargeblobda ek-

lesiis yuradRebiTa da pativiscemiT, rac aisaxa Tavad

wmida grigolis zedwodebaze. mas am wignis gamo ewoda

dioloRosi. saubrebSi sisadaviTa da bunebriobiT aris

gadmocemuli italiel wmindanTa cxovrebani. igi TiTo-

euli qristianisTvis Zvirfasi SenaZenia. garda amisa,

wigni romis imperiis daSlis periodSi eklesiis isto-

riis saintereso masalebs Seicavs. rogorc Tavad wmin-

dani aRniSnavs, is am cnobebs Rirseul da sando adamian-

Tagan, xSir SemTxvevaSi movlenaTa TviTmxilvelTagan

krebda.

wigni saubris saxiT aris warmodgenili, raTa misi

kiTxva advili da sasiamovno iyos. diakvani petre, ro-

melsac avtori esaubreba, ar aris gamogonili piri,

mas, rogorc wignidan Cans, mRvdelmTavari wmindanTa

cxovrebebze marTlac xSirad esaubreboda.

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wig n i p irv eli

erTxel, erT myudro, Svebis momgvrel adgilas gan-

vmartovdi amqveyniuri saqmeebiT damZimebuli, romle-

bic arcTu iSviaTad gvaiZuleben mivatovoT sulieri

saqme, rac yovlad dauSvebelia. iq, TavisuflebaSi, Se-

meZlo ukeT gavrkveuliyavi damamZimebel, usiamovno

STabeWdilebebSi da zedmiwevniT ganmexila yovelive,

rac naRvels mgvrida. rodesac danaRvlianebulma mar-

toobaSi sakmao xani gavatare, usayvarlesma Svilma, di-

akvanma petrem mominaxula. Cven adreuli siyrmidan

mtkice megobroba gvakavSirebda, erTad vuRrmavdebo-

diT RmrTis sityvas. rodesac petrem esoden guldamZi-

mebuli mixila, mkiTxa: raime axali xom ar SegemTxva,

rad damwuxrebulxar Cveulebrivze metad? _ ara, say-

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varelo petre, _ vupasuxe, _ mwuxareba, romelsac yo-

veldRiurad viTmen, CemTvis mudam Zvelia, imitom, rom

Cveulia, da mudam axalia, imitom, rom mzardia. amJamad

suli wuxs imis gamo, rom Cemze dakisrebuli usiamovno

saqmeebi masSi Cemi Zveli samonastro cxovrebis mogone-

bebs aRZravs. im dros Cems suls SeeZlo yovel SemTxve-

viTobas gamklaveboda, mswraflwarmavalze amaRlebu-

liyo, radgan misi yoveli zraxva zecisaken iyo mimar-

Tuli. maSin TviT xorcis sakrvelebi ar abrkolebda mas

damtkbariyo mWvretelobiTi cxovrebiT, radgan TviT

sikvdili, romelic TiTqmis yovel adamians aSinebs da

Zrwolas gvris, misTvis sanukvari iyo, rogorc gardas-

vla cxovrebaSi, rogorc misagebeli RvawlisaTvis. ax-

la ki, samwyemso msaxurebis gamo, valdebuli var saero

saqmeebs mivdio. davtove Zveli, mSvenieri da uSfoTve-

li cxovreba da suli miwieri sazrunavebiT unda Sevi-

bilwo, radgan, rogorc ki sulis yuradReba sxvebis mi-

marT SemwynareblobiT gareSe sagnebze gaifanteba, ma-

Sin, ueWvelia, sulieri sagnebisadmi Zlieri ltolvac

mouZlurdeba. amitom ganvsji, ra SeviZine da ra davkar-

ge da danakargis mixedviT vxedav, rom davkarge imaze

meti, rac maqvs. amJamad zRvis talRebi maSfoTeben da

Cemi gonebis xomalds Zlieri qariSxali aryevs; xolo

rodesac Cems Zvel cxovrebas vigoneb da mzeras vap-

yrob, TiTqos napirs vxedav da sulTviTqvam. Zlieri

Relvis gamo ZlivsRa vxedav Cem mier datovebul navsa-

yudels, radgan Cvens suls amgvari ram sCvevia: rode-

sac kargavs im sikeTes, romelic hqonda, pirvelad ax-

sovs danakargi, magram droTa ganmavlobaSi aviwydeba da

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amgvarad, xsovnac ki ar rCeba imisi, rac uwin hqonda.

amitom, rogorc vTqvi, ganvagrZobT curvas da mxedve-

lobis aridan srulebiT gvekargeba uSfoTveli navsayu-

deli. zogjer, Cemda samwuxarod, magondebian adamiane-

bi, romlebic suliT sruliad ganeSornen am sofels.

maTi angelozTa msgavsi cxovrebis mxolod gaxsenebac

miCvenebs, rogor davknindi. am wmida mosagreTa umrav-

lesoba am soflisagan farulad emsaxureboda Tavis Se-

moqmeds. yovlisSemZle RmerTs ar surda, rom maTi ga-

naxlebuli suli adamianur saqmeebs moeuZlurebina da

maT yovelgvar miwier sazrunavs acilebda.

ukeT rom gadmovce is, rac erTmaneTSi visaubreT, mas

kiTxva-pasuxis saxes mivcem da Cveni saxelebiT aRvniS-

nav.

petre: TiTqmis araferi vici im mamaTa Rvawlis Sesa-

xeb, romlebmac wmida cxovrebiT gaiTqves saxeli ita-

liaSi. amitom ver vxvdebi, vis Sesaxeb saubrob aseTi

aRmafreniT da vis cxovrebas adareb Sens cxovrebas. ra

Tqma unda, ar meeWveba, rom italiaSi marTlac iyvnen

wmida moRvaweebi, magram maTi saTnoebani da saswaulebi

an sruliad ucnobia CemTvis, an maT Sesaxeb imdenad co-

taa naTqvami, rom am dumilma SesaZloa eWvi aRZras.

grigoli: sayvarelo petre, maT Sesaxeb mxolod is

cnobebi rom gadmogce, romlebic me, ubadrukma, sando

mowmeebisgan Sevityve, vfiqrob, amisTvis dro ar meyo-

fa.

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petre: gevedrebi, uwmideso mamao, Tundac nawili ga-

mande. vfiqrob, ar dabrkoldebi imis gamo, rom maTi

cxovrebis gaxsenebiT sakmaod vrceli monaTxrobi gamo-

va. wmindanTa cxovrebis ganxilviT Cvenc viswavliT,

rogor movipovoT da davicvaT saTnoebani, maTi saswau-

lebi gviCvenebs, Tu rogor idideba mopovebuli da da-

culi saTnoeba. arseboben adamianebi, romelTa sulSi

zeciuri samSoblosadmi siyvarulis cecxls aRanTebs

ara imdenad darigebebi, ramdenadac _ magaliTebi. vinc

wmindanTa cxovrebas gaiazrebs, amiT orgvar sargebels

moipovebs: pirveli, imaTi cxovrebis magaliTebi, rom-

lebmac Cvenze adre ganvles cxonebisken mimavali gza,

CvenSi momavali cxovrebis siyvaruls aRZravs; meore,

Tuki vinme sakuTar TavSi saTnoebebs xedavda, Tavs daim-

dablebs, rodesac Seityobs, rom wmindanebis Rvawli

aRmatebuli iyo.

grigoli: mzad var axlave gadmogce yovelive, rac am

moRvaweTa Sesaxeb RmrTismosav kacTagan msmenia. mivba-

Zav markozisa da lukas wmida da amaRlebul, mzesaviT

manaTobel magaliTs, romelTac TavianTi saxarebebi da-

weres ara nanaxis, aramed mosmenilis safuZvelze. imis-

Tvis, rom momavalSi Cveni mkiTxveli ar daeWvdes, yove-

li movlenis aRwerisas mivuTiTeb wyaros, riTic visar-

geble. mxolod winaswar getyvi, rom zogierT SemTxve-

vaSi me mxolod wyaros azrs gadmovcem, sxva SemTxveveb-

Si ki azrTan erTad Txrobis sizustesac davicav. yve-

laferi zustad rom gadmovce imaTi sityvebiT, vinc es

ambebi mauwya, Cemi monaTxrobi araerTgvarovani gamova

imis gamo, rom zogierTi mTxrobeli Zalian ubralo,

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martivi eniT gadmomcemda ambebs. unda aRvniSno, rom is,

ris moyolasac SenTvis vapireb, yvelaze sando kacTagan

meuwya.

Tavi pirveli

honorati, fundis monastris iRumeni

erT patrics, saxelad benancis, samniis olqSi mamu-

li hqonda. iqve erTi glexi cxovrobda. mas vaJi hyavda,

saxelad honorati. man siyrmidan Seiyvara TavSekavebu-

li cxovreba, ramac zeciuri mamulisadmi siyvaruli

aRuZra. is amgvarad didxans iRwvoda, yoveli uqmi sit-

yvis warmoTqmas erideboda da sxeuls TavSekavebiT

wvrTnida. erTxel misma mSoblebma lxini gamarTes da

mezoblebi moiwvies. sufrisTvis sxva sanovagesTan er-

Tad xorcic moamzades. honorats, marxvis siyvaruliT,

survilic ar hqonda xorcs gakareboda. mSoblebma da-

cinva dauwyes da uTxres: `Wame, xom ar ggonia, SenTvis

Tevzs daviWerT?~ _ im mxareSi Tevzis Sesaxeb mxolod

gadmocemiT icodnen. rodesac honorats amgvarad das-

cinodnen, wyali SemoakldaT: wyalze myisve msaxuri

gagzavnes xis WurWliT. WurWels wyliT avsebisas Tev-

zi amohyva. saxlSi dabrunebulma msaxurma wyali yve-

las Tvalwin gadmoRvara da uCvena Tevzi, romelic sak-

maod mozrdili iyo da honorats saWmelad mTeli dRe

eyofoda. yvelani gaocdnen. honoratis mSoblebi iZule-

bulni gaxdnen SeewyvitaT dacinva. amgvarad, yrmis Tav-

Sekaveba, romelsac aqamde dascinodnen, pativiscemis

sagani Seiqna da mTaSi daWerilma Tevzma RmrTis kaci

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RvarZliani dacinvisgan ixsna. rodesac honoratis saT-

no cxovrebis Sesaxeb xma gavrcelda, batonma gaaTavi-

sufla da man fundSi monasteri daaarsa, sadac TiTqmis

oras gandegils xelmZRvanelobda. is yvelasTvis samaga-

liTo, amaRlebuli cxovrebiT cxovrobda.

erTxel mTas, romlis ZirSi monasteri mdebareobda,

uzarmazari lodi moswyda, mTis frialo kalTaze daqan-

da da monastersa da Zmebs danTqmiT emuqreboda. wmida

mamam es rogorc ki SeniSna, myisve macxovris saxels mo-

uwoda, mowyvetil lods, romelic is iyo monasters un-

da dascemoda, jvari gadasaxa da is maSinve SeCerda.

amis Sesaxeb erTi RmrTismosavi kaci, saxelad lavren-

ti momiTxrobda. mTis beqobi, sadac lodi SeCerda, ci-

cabo iyo. amboben, axlac rom Sexedo, mogeCveneba, TiT-

qos lodi mowyvetas apirebso.

petre: wmida mamao, rogor gaxdeboda es sakvirveli

kaci sxvaTa xelmZRvaneli, uwin Tavad rom ar hyoloda

damrigebeli?

grigoli: ar msmenia, rom is vinmes damowafeboda. su-

liwmidis niWebi zogjer adamianebs uCveulo gziT mie-

niWeba. Cveulebriv, xelmZRvaneli ver iqneba is, visac

morCileba ar uswavlia da xelqveiTebs morCilebas ver

aRuZravs is, vinc TviTon ar icis zemdgomTa morCileba.

magram, arseboben adamianebi, romlebic naTldebian su-

liwmidis mier; marTalia isini garegan adamianur xel-

mZRvanelobas moklebulni arian, magram, samagierod,

maT sulTan mudam aris Sinagani damrigebeli _ suliw-

mida. Tumca saTnoebebSi umtkicarma adamianebma wmida

mamaTa cxovrebebSi gamovlenili amgvari zebunebrivi

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SemTxvevebi magaliTad ar unda daisaxon. winaaRmdeg

SemTxvevaSi, viRacam SeiZleba warmoidginos, rom Tvi-

Tonac aRsavsea suliwmidiT, ugulebelyos adamianuri

darigeba da cdomilebaSi Cavardes. suliwmidiT aRvsil

suls sruliad cxadi niSnebi aqvs, rac aaSkaravebs mis

amgvar mdgomareobas: es aris simdablesTan SeerTebuli

udidesi saTnoeba. Tuki suli am Tvisebebs srulyofi-

lad flobs, es cxadze cxadi niSania masSi suliwmidis

davanebisa. magaliTad, wmida werilSi arsad aris mox-

senebuli, rom wmida ioane naTlismcemels moZRvari

hyoloda; TviT qristes _ Tavad WeSmaritebas, romelic

miwaze xiluli yofnis Jams mociqulebs aswavlida, mo-

wafeTa Soris xiluli saxiT ar Seuracxavs ioane. visac

Sinaganad ganswavlida, mas TiTqos tovebda, rom Tavisi

nebiT ecxovra. aseve, mosesac udabnoSi angelozi winam-

ZRvrobda (gam. 23, 20 da Semdegi), da ara _ adamiani.

saTnoebebSi ganumtkicebeli adamianebisTvis es yoveli-

ve unda iyos ara mibaZvis, aramed _ pativiscemis sagani.

petre: gTxov, miTxari: am wmida mamas, honorats, mo-

wafeTa Soris mimdevari ar darCenia?

Tavi meore

libertini, imave monastris ekonomosi

grigoli: guTebis mefis, totilas mefobis dros ima-

ve monasterSi ekonomosad iyo RmrTismosavi kaci, saxe-

lad libertini. is cxovrobda da izrdeboda mama hono-

ratis xelmZRvanelobiT. xalxi mraval sarwmuno ambavs

hyveboda misi saTnoebebis Sesaxeb. masze gansakuTrebiT

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bevrs miambobda ukve xsenebuli RmrTismosavi lavren-

ti, romelic amJamadac cocxalia da daaxloebuli iyo

mama libertinTan. Sevecdebi mokled gadmogce misi naam-

bobi.

erTxel RmrTismosavi libertini samonastro saWi-

roebaTa gamo sadRac gaemgzavra, gzad ukve xsenebuli

samniis olqi unda gaevlo. im dros, imave gzaze, guTebis

erT-erTi mxedarTmTavari dardanic midioda jarTan

erTad. misi mxedrebi RmrTis kacs Tavs daesxnen, miwaze

gadmoagdes da cxeni waarTves. wmindanma danakargi did-

sulovnad daiTmina, avazakebs maTraxic miawoda da uT-

xra: `esec waiReT, rom Cemi cxeni gadenoT~. amis Semdeg

wmindani locvad dadga. dardanis jarma gza ganagrZo da

male mdinare bulturnas miuaxlovda. meore napirze ga-

dasasvlelad mxedrebi cxenebs orolebs scemdnen da

wyalTan agdebdnen; pirutyvs bevri urtyes da tanjes,

magram fexi ver moacvlevines. maT ise eSinodaT wyalSi

Sesvlis, TiTqos frialo kldidan gadaSvebas aiZuleb-

dnen. rodesac pirutyvis cemiT mxedrebic daiRalnen,

erT-erTma Tqva: `imisTvis vitanjebiT, rom gzaSi

RmrTis kaci SeuracxvyaviT~. ramdenime maTgani myisve

dabrunda da libertini imave adgilze, isev locvad

mdgomi ixiles. `adeqi, _ uTxres mas, _ da daibrune

cxeni~. `RmerTma daglocoT, _ miugo wmindanma, _ cxe-

ni ar mWirdeba~. maSin mxedrebi cxenebidan CamoqveiT-

dnen, libertini Tavis cxenze ZaliT Sesves da dauyov-

nebliv gabrundnen. amis Semdeg cxenebma mdinare swra-

fad gadacures, TiTqos iq wyali arc yofiliyos. amgva-

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rad, RmrTis gangebiT, rogorc ki wmindans cxeni daub-

runes, imaTac daemorCilnen TavianTi cxenebi.

imave xanebSi kampaniis olqSi frankebis jari midio-

da, romelsac bucelini mTavrobda. xma dadioda, rom

honoratis monasteri did ganZeuls flobda. frankebi

taZarSi SeiWrnen da ekonomos libertins dauwyes Zebna.

is im dros miwaze garTxmuli loculobda da hoi, saoc-

rebav, ramdeni eZebes frankebma libertini, magram ver

dainaxes, Tumca mis sxeuls xSirad fexiTac exebodnen.

amgvarad, Tavisive sibrmaviT motyuebulni, monastri-

dan xelcarielni gabrundnen.

sxva dros libertinma winamZRvrisgan (romelic li-

bertinis moZRvris _ honoratis memkvidre iyo) brZane-

ba miiRo, ravenaSi samonastro saqmeze gamgzavrebuli-

yo. wmida honoratisadmi siyvarulis gamo libertins

Cvevad hqonda, sadac miemgzavreboda, Tan misi fexsacme-

li mihqonda. gzad mimavals erTi dedakaci Semoxvda,

romelic xeliT gardacvlil Svils moasvenebda.

RmrTis kaci rom dainaxa, libertinis cxenis lagami mo-

zida da wmindani daafica: `aqedan ver waxval, vidre

Svils ar gamicocxleb~. libertini mixvda, ra uCveulo

saswaulis aRsrulebas iTxovdnen misgan. is ficTan Se-

erTebuli Txovnis mosmenam SeaZrwuna da Seecada ganSo-

reboda dedakacs, magram ver SeZlo. igi orWofobda.

warmoidgine, am dros mis sulSi ra Zlieri brZola

aRiZra. misi simdable ubeduri dedakacis mimarT Tanag-

rZnobas ebrZoda, SiSi uCveulo saswaulis aRsrulebisa

ebrZoda samwuxaro grZnobas, _ uari eTqva Sewevnaze

Svilmkvdari dedisTvis. ukanasknel, sadidebelad

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RmrTisa, mis uryev simdables Tanalmobam sZlia, uryevs

swored imitom, rom TanalmobiT iZlia, radgan uryevs

ver uwodeb saTnoebas, romelic sxvaTa gansacdelis

xilvisas qeduxreli rCeba. amgvarad, wmindani cxenidan

Camoxda, muxli moidrika da zecisken xelaRpyrobiT

locvis Semdeg micvalebul yrmas mkerdze wmida hono-

ratis fexsacmeli daado. wmindanis locviT micvalebu-

lis suli sxeulSi dabrunda. libertinma gacocxlebu-

li yrma mgloviare dedas gadasca, TviTon ki gza ganag-

rZo.

petre: miTxari, mamao: wmida honoratis saTnoebis Za-

lam aRasrula es saswauli, Tu wmida libertinis loc-

vam?

grigoli: aseTi uCveulo saswaulis aRsasruleblad

SeerTda: dedakacis rwmena da orive wmindanis saTnoe-

bis Zala; vfiqrob, libertinma am saswaulis aRsrule-

ba imitom SeZlo, rom ufro metad moZRvris saTnoeba-

Ta Zalas miendo, vidre _ sakuTars. mas swamda, rom

imisi suli, visi fexsacmelic micvalebuls mkerdze

daado, mis locvas Seismenda. msgavsad imisa, rogorc

elisem ver SeZlo Tavisi moZRvris xalenis mdinareSi

erTxel CagdebiT orad gaepo wyali iordaneSi, magram

rogorc ki warmoTqva: `sada ars ufali RmerTi eliasi

affo?~ (4 mef. 2, 14) da Caagdo ilias xaleni mdinare-

Si, wyali gaipo da gza misca mas. xedav, sayvarelo pet-

re, saswaulis aRsrulebisas simdables rogori Zala

aqvs? maSin SeZlo moZRvris Zalis Tanaswori Zala ga-

moeCina, rodesac mis saxels mouxmo, da misi msgavsi

saqmec aRasrula, radgan mis simdables baZavda.

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petre: sasiamovnoa Seni saubris mosmena, yovladpa-

tiosano mamao! miTxari, Cvens dasamoZRvrad am mosagris

Sesaxeb msgavsi ram kidev xom ar ici?

grigoli: vici, magram mxolod imisTvis, visac misi

mibaZva surs, radgan mimaCnia, rom simdable yovelgvar

niSsa da saswauls aRemateba. moxda amgvari ram: er-

Txel winamZRvari (romelmac honoratis aRsrulebis

Semdeg is winamZRvris Tanamdebobaze Secvala) imdenad

ganurisxda saTno libertins, rom mzad iyo misTvis da-

ertya. joxi rom versad moixelTa, xeli skams staca da

libertins ise urtya, rom mas Tavi da saxe mTlianad

dausivda da daulurjda. libertinma daiTmina es sas-

tiki cema da mSvidad wavida Tavis senakSi. male samonas-

tro saqmis gamo iZulebuli gaxda sadRac wasuliyo. di-

lis kanoni aRasrula da winamZRvris senakisken gaemar-

Ta, raTa misgan locva-kurTxeva gamoeTxova. winam-

ZRvarma icoda, rom libertins usamarTlod miyenebuli

wyenis Semdeg yvela pativiscemiT da siyvaruliT epyro-

boda. mas egona libertins monastris datoveba surda

da daekiTxa: `saiT gagiwevia?~ _ `monastris gadaude-

bel saqmeTa gamo, _ upasuxa libertinma, _ jer kidev

guSin davpirdi ama da am adgilas wasvlas da msurs wa-

vide~. maSin winamZRvarma sulis siRrmeSi aRiara, rom,

erTi mxriv, sastikad da mkacrad moepyro libertins,

meore mxriv, Seuracxyofili mSvidi da Tavmdabali iyo.

is gamovida senakidan, libertinis ferxTiT davarda da

aRiara, rom mZimed Sescoda, damnaSavea mis winaSe, rom

gakadnierda sastiki Seuracxyofa mieyenebina aseTi saT-

no kacisaTvis. libertinic davarda miwaze winamZRvris

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ferxTiT da arwmunebda, rom mis mier miyenebuli Seu-

racxyofis mizezi ara winamZRvris gaxeleba iyo, aramed

TviTon iyo amaSi damnaSave. am SemTxvevis Semdeg winam-

ZRvari yvelas didi krZalviT eqceoda. amgvarad, mowa-

fis simdablem gulisxmierebaSi Caagdo TviT maswavle-

beli. rodesac libertini monastris saqmeze wavida,

ramdenime warCinebuli didebuli Sexvda, romlebic mas

udides pativs scemdnen. maT didi gaocebiTa da Tanal-

mobiT gamohkiTxes, ra daemarTa, ratom hqonda saxe da-

siebuli da dalurjebuli? `guSin, gvian saRamos, _

upasuxa libertinma, _ Cemi codvebis gamo skams Seveja-

xe da Zlier davSavdi~. amgvarad, am wmida kacma pasuxSi

WeSmariteba ganacxada, arc winamZRvris saqcieli gaT-

qva da arc tyuili uTqvams.

petre: msurs Sevityo, yovladpatiosano mamao, iseT-

ma RmrTismoSiSma adamianma, rogoric libertini iyo,

romlis Sesaxeb aseT saswaulebs miambob, nuTu ar da-

tova monasterSi Tavisi saTnoebebis mimdevarni?

Tavi mesame

monazoni, romelic imave monasterSi mebaRe iyo

grigoli: SenTvis cnobili feliqsi, romelic arcTu

didi xnis win imave monastris ekonomosi iyo, mraval

sakvirvel ambavs miambobda monastris Zmebis Sesaxeb.

mis monaTxrobs srulad ar gadmogcem, radgan sul sxva

rameze msurs SenTan saubari, magram ar SemiZlia dav-

dumde erTi SemTxvevis Sesaxeb, romelic misgan gavige.

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fundis monasterSi erTi monazoni iyo, mebaRed msa-

xurobda da amaRlebul cxovrebas eweoda. mis bostans

qurdi SeeCvia. is Robeze farulad gadadioda da bos-

tneuls iparavda. mebaRem SeniSna, rom rac daTesa, ima-

ze bevrad naklebi moiwia, rac darCa _ isic gaTelili

da daglejili iyo. man bostani Semoiara da im adgils

miagno, saidanac qurdi ipareboda. rodesac bostanSi

brundeboda, gveli dainaxa da ubrZana: `gamomyevi~. im

adgilze, saidanac qurdi Sedioda, isev ubrZana gvels:

`ieso qristes saxeliT gibrZaneb daicva es Semosasvle-

li da qurds bostanSi Semosvlis neba ar misce~. gveli

maSinve gzis gardigardmo gawva, monazoni ki senakSi

dabrunda. Sua dRes, rodesac monastris Zmebi isveneb-

dnen, qurdi gamoCnda da Robeze gadasvla scada. uecrad

mas gvelma gza gadauRoba. qurdi Zlier SeSinda da ukan

gadavarda, magram fexi Robis wnulSi gaexlarTa da me-

baRis mosvlamde TavdaRma dakidebuli darCa. rodesac

mebaRe movida, dainaxa qurdi Robeze ekida; is gvels mo-

ubrunda da uTxra: `madloba RmerTs, Sen aRasrule

nabrZanebi, axla wadi~. gveli miimala. mebaRem qurds

mimarTa: `Zmao, RmerTma Cems xelSi Cagagdo. rogor ga-

kadnierdi, monazvnis Sromis nayofi migeTvisebina?~

amis Semdeg mebaRem qurds fexi gauTavisufla, Robidan

Camoiyvana, Tavis senakSi miiwvia da sixaruliT misca

bostneuli, romelsac is Cveulebriv iparavda, Semdeg

bostnis karebamde miacila da uTxra: `wadi da amieri-

dan aRar iqurdo; rodesac dagWirdeba, CemTan modi, si-

xaruliT mogcem imas, rasac aqamde codvis gziT iZen-

di~.

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petre: vxvdebi, aqamde amaod vfiqrobdi, TiTqos ita-

liaSi ar iyvnen saswaulebiT saxelganTqmuli wmindane-

bi.

Tavi meoTxe

ekvici, romelic monastris winamZRvari iyo vale-

riis olqSi

grigoli: axla imas giambob, rac friad Rirseulma

fortunatem miambo, romelic monasters winamZRvrobda

puteolSi. valeriis provinciaSi erTi kaci, saxelad

ekvici, cxovrobda, romelic uCveulod wmida cxovre-

bas imarxavda. mas winamZRvari fortunatec kargad ic-

nobda da misi sulieri Rvawlis mimarT sxvebic krZal-

viT iyvnen gamsWvalulni. ekvici, rogorc didi siwmin-

diT mcxovrebi kaci, im olqSi mraval monasters winam-

ZRvrobda. siyrmeSi mas xorciel gulisTqmebTan brZo-

la tanjavda, magram brZolis simZimem ufro gulmodgi-

ne locvisTvis aRZra. amgvarad, ekvici daucxromeli

locviT yovlisSemZle RmerTisgan Sewevnas gamoiTxov-

da da bolos igrZno, rom xorcieli gulisTqmebi gane-

Sornen da TiTqos usxeulo Seiqna. rodesac RmerTis

SewevniT saTnoebebSi ganmtkicda, ekvici dedaTa monas-

trebis winamZRvaric gaxda, radgan iqamde mxolod mama-

Ta monastrebs winamZRvrobda. Tumca Tavis mowafeebs

mudam Caagonebda, rom mis magaliTs ganusjelad ar ah-

yolodnen da ar moesurvebinaT imis aRsruleba, risi

niWic ar hqondaT.

im dros romSi grZneulebi Seipyres. vinme basili,

romelic yvelaze daxelovnebuli jadoqari iyo, samo-

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nazvno kabaSi gadacmuli valeriis olqSi gaiqca. is ami-

Ternis episkoposs, Rirs kastors eaxla da Seevedra ek-

vicis monasterSi ganewesebina, Tan hpirdeboda, monas-

ters samkurnalo xelovnebiT Sevewevio. episkoposi

cru monazon basilTan erTad maSinve monastrisken gae-

marTa da RmrTis saTno ekvicis sTxova igi Zmebs Soris

mieRo. wmindanma Sexeda basils da episkoposs uTxra:

`Sen mibrZaneb miviRo ara monazoni, aramed _ eSmaki~. _

`Sen mxolod mizezs eZeb, rom Cemi Txovna ar Seasru-

lo~, _ upasuxa episkoposma winamZRvars. `vambob imas,

rasac masSi vWvret, _ uTxra RmrTis monam, _ magram

Sen rom ar ifiqro, Tavs varideb morCilebas, aRvasru-

leb Sens nebas~. basili monasterSi miiRes. ramdenime

dRis Semdeg RmrTis mona ekvici xangrZlivi droiT mo-

nastridan wavida, raTa sulieri nugeSis maZiebelni

WeSmaritebaSi ganeswavla. wmida ekvicis wasvlis Sem-

deg dedaTa monasterSi, romelsac agreTve is winam-

ZRvrobda, erTi monazoni, romelsac silamaze jer ki-

dev hqonda SerCenili, dasneulda, saSinlad itanjebo-

da da yviriliTa da sulTqmiT imeorebda: `movkvdebi,

Tu monazoni basili ar mova da Tavisi xelovnebiT jan-

mrTelobas ar damibrunebs~. winamZRvris aryofnis

dros verc erTi monazoni dedaTa monasterSi Sesvlas

ver bedavda, miT umetes basili, romelic ZmobaSi axali

miRebuli iyo da aravin icnobda. ekvicisTan macne gag-

zavnes da Seatyobines, esa da es monazoni iTxovs, rom

basilma moinaxulos. amis gagonebaze wmida mamam mware

RimiliT Tqva: `ar vambobdi, rom es adamiani ki ara, de-

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monia? dabrundiT da is monastridan gaaZeveT, xolo

sneuli dis gamo nu iRelvebT; misi avadmyofoba gaivlis

da is basils aRar mouxmobs~. gagzavnilebi dabrundnen

da Seityves, rom sneuli swored im dros gamokeTda,

rodesac isini RmrTis saTno ekvicis monastrisgan mo-

SorebiT esaubrebodnen. amgvarad, marTalma saswauli

Tavisi moZRvrisa da uflis _ ieso qristes msgavsad

aRasrula; rodesac ufali mefis moxelem Zis gansakur-

neblad moixmo (ioan. 4, 46), man erTi sityviT mianiWa

mas kurneba da saxlSi dabrunebulma mamam Seityo, rom

misi Ze swored im dros ganikurna, rodesac amis Sesaxeb

Tavad WeSmaritebis bageTagan gaigo. monazvnebma winam-

ZRvris brZaneba aRasrules da cru monazoni basili mo-

nastridan gaaZeves. amis Semdeg man aRiara, rom Tavisi

grZneulebiT wmida ekvicis senaki haerSi ahqonda, mag-

ram veraferi avno. male es grZneuli xalxis moSurneo-

biT romSi koconze dawves.

erTxel erTi mxevali RmrTisa imave dedaTa savanidan

monastris bostanSi Sevida. bostneuli rom dainaxa,

xarbad daiwyo Wama, pirjvris gamosaxva ki daaviwyda.

mas uecrad arawmida suli ekveTa da miwaze dasca. ro-

desac is am mdgomareobaSi ixiles, mama ekvicis sTxoves,

locviT ganekurna sneuli. rogorc ki ekvici bostanSi

Sevida, arawmida suli dacemuli mxevlis piriT ayvir-

da, TiTqos Sewyalebas iTxovda: `gana ra Cavidine, gana

ra Cavidine? bostneulSi viyav, aman ki maTTan erTad Ta-

vis wiaRSi mimiRo~. RmrTis kacma arawmida suls ris-

xviT ubrZana, daetovebina monazoni da yovlisSemZle

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RmerTis mxevalTan aRarasodes dabrunebuliyo. boro-

ti suli myisve ganSorda mas da amis Semdeg masTan miax-

loebas veRar bedavda.

nursiis olqis warCinebulma didebulma feliqsma,

kastoris mamam, romelic amJamad romSi cxovrobs, Se-

ityo, rom RmrTismoSiS ekvicis samRvdelo xarisxi ar

hqonda, amave dros moSurned aswavlida sxvebs sityviT

da erTxel megobrulad daekiTxa: `mamao, rogor kadni-

erdebi, rom qadageb, rodesac arc samRvdelo xarisxi

gaqvs da arc romis mRvdelmTavris nebarTva, romlis

daqvemdebarebaSic xar?~ wmida mosagrem upasuxa: `amis

Sesaxeb mec mifiqria, magram erTxel ZilSi mSvenieri

Wabuki warmomidga, enaze is iaraRi Semaxo, romelsac

eqimebi sisxlis gamosaSvebad iyeneben, Tan miTxra: `aha,

Cems sityvas davdeb Sens bageze, wadi da iqadage~. mas

Semdeg, romc movisurvo, ver davdumdebi, radgan Rmer-

Tis Zala aRmZravs~.

petre: mamao, msurs vicode, rogor moRvaweobda es

wmida kaci, romelsac, rogorc cnobilia, RmerTisgan

aseTi niWebi miemadla.

grigoli: Rvawli, sayvarelo petre, madlismier niW-

zea damokidebuli da ara _ madli Rvawlze; winaaRmdeg

SemTxvevaSi, madli ar iqneba madli. yovel Rvawls win

uZRvis madlismieri niWi, Tumca Semdgom madlismieri

niWebi imdenad mravldeba, ramdenadac izrdeba Rvawli.

Tu gsurs utyuari cnobebi Seityo am RmrTis saTno ka-

cis Sesaxeb, mimarTe reaTinis eklesiis episkoposs, al-

bins _ is kargad icnobda wmida ekvicis. magram, rad eZi-

eb mis umetes Rvawls, rodesac ici, rom es kaci ubiwo

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cxovrebas icavda da imavdroulad moSurned aswavlida

sxvebs. igi udidesi moSurneobiT anTebuli iRvwoda,

ramdenime monasters xelmZRvanelobda da amave dros

mimodioda yvelgan: taZrebSi, qalaqebSi, soflebSi,

qristianTa saxlebSic ki da msmenelTa gulebSi zeciu-

ri mamulisadmi siyvaruls aRvivebda. wmida mamas sru-

liad ubadruki samosi ecva da garegnobac imdenad Tav-

mdabluri hqonda, ucnobi adamiani rom Sexvedroda da

imisTvis Tayvani eca, is Rirsad ar CaTvlida, salmiTve

epasuxa. zogan cxeniT miemgzavreboda, risTvisac monas-

tris cxenebs Soris yvelaze uaress irCevda da lagamis

nacvlad yovelTvis avSaras1 iyenebda, unagiris nacvlad

ki _ cxvris tyavs. tyavis abgiT Tan yovelTvis wmida we-

rilis wignebi mihqonda, raTa ganaRebda ra RmrTis sit-

yvis wyaros, sulier samkalze ewvimebina. xma misi qada-

gebebis Sesaxeb roms miswvda. zogierTi mliqvneli moxe-

le romis saepiskoposos samRvdelo dasidan (romlebic,

rogorc wesi, jer eniT moinadireben, Semdeg ki war-

wymeden msmenelis suls) myisve eaxla mRvdelmTavars

saCivriT: `wmida mamao, romeliRac uswavlelma kacma

qadagebis ufleba miiTvisa, umecarma miitaca movaleoba,

romelic Sens uwmidesobas ekuTvnis. xom ar inebeb mis

moyvanas, raTa Seagono saeklesio ganweseba?~ Cveuleb-

riv, vinc moSurned aRasrulebs Tavis movaleobas, is

advilad emoneba mliqvnelobas, Tuki mas gulis karidan

Tavidanve ar ganiSorebs. romis episkoposi samRvdelo

krebulis Segonebas dahyva da daTanxmda, CamoeyvanaT

1 avSara _ cxenis ulagamo aRviri. _ mTargmn. Sen.

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romSi wmida ekvici, raTa misTvis Tavisi movaleobani

aexsnaT. Tumca paps ar surda, rom am brZanebas RmrTis

saTno moRvawe raimeTi gaenawyenebina da Tavis moci-

quls, defensor1 iulianes (SemdgomSi sabinis eklesiis

episkoposi) daavala, wmida ekvici romSi sruli Rirse-

bis dacviT Camoeyvana. samRvdelo dasis mier waqezebuli

iuliane, brZaneba swrafad rom aResrulebina, wmida ek-

vicis monasterSi aCqarebiT wavida. iq ramdenime mona-

zoni daxvda, romlebic wignebis gadaweriT iyvnen daka-

vebulni da maT daekiTxa: `sad aris Tqveni winamZRva-

ri?~ `aqvea, monastris mindorSi balaxs Tibavs~, _ upa-

suxes monazvnebma. iulianes Tan msaxuri axlda, rome-

lic imdenad ampartavani da Tavxedi iyo, rom misi mom-

wyemsva TviTonac uWirda. iulianem is gagzavna, rom

swrafad moexmo winamZRvari. msaxuri cqvitad gaemarTa,

swrafad miuaxlovda mindors da mTibavebs utifrad

gasZaxa: `sad aris ekvici?~ mas miuTiTes. rodesac jer

kidev Sors myof winamZRvars mohkra Tvali, msaxuri uC-

veulo SiSma Seipyro: aTrTolebulma da akankalebulma

gza Zlivs ganagrZo, RmrTis kacs ZrwoliT mieaxla, da-

varda mis winaSe, muxlze mdablad emTxvia da Tavisi ba-

tonis mosvla amcno. misalmebis Semdeg RmrTis saTno

kacma uTxra: `aha, aiRe Tiva da Tqvens cxenebs wauRe; me

saqmes davasruleb da male geaxlebiT~. amasobaSi papis

1 defensori (damcveli) _ romis eklesiaSi defensoris ZiriTadi

movaleoba iyo gaWirvebulebze zrunva da eklesiis uflebebis dac-

va. zogjer romis episkoposi defensorebs davalebebiT sxvadasxva

mxareSi agzavnida. (es SeniSvnebi darTuli aqvs am wignis rusul

gamocemas).

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elCs, defensor iulianes, Zalian ukvirda, misi msaxuri

rom igvianebda. rodesac dainaxa, rom is mindvridan Ti-

vis zviniT brundeboda, ganrisxebulma dauyvira: `es

ras niSnavs? me Sen winamZRvris mosayvanad gaggzavne da

ara Tivis mosatanad~. _ `is axlave mova~, _ upasuxa

msaxurma. am dros RmrTis kaci, Semosili da mxrebze

Tivis koniT, monasterSi dabrunda. rodesac jer kidev

Sors iyo, msaxurma miuTiTa batons, rom swored is iyo,

vis wasayvanadac aq movidnen. iulianem dainaxa Tu ara

ekvici, misi mdabali garegnobis mxilvelma, masTan mkac-

rad da mbrZaneblurad daapira saubari, magram rodesac

RmrTis saTno kaci miuaxlovda, iulianes guls uCveu-

lo SiSi daeufla, sxeuli aukankalda da Zlivs gadasca

wmindans Tavisi Camosvlis mizezi, mdablad davarda mis

ferxTiT, misgan locva gamoiTxova da amcno, rom uwmi-

des paps misi naxva surs. wmida ekvicim yovlisSemZle

RmerTs mTeli guliT Seswira madloba imisTvis, rom

umaRles ierarqs misi mowodeba Caagona. man ramdenime

Zmas ubrZana, cxenebi samgzavrod gaemzadebinaT da daJi-

nebiT moiTxova, dauyovnebliv gamgzavrebuliyvnen. `es

SeuZlebelia, wmida mamao, _ uTxra iulianem, _ Soreu-

li mgzavrobiT daviqanceT da dResve gamgzavreba ar

SegviZlia~. `vwuxvar, Svilo Cemo, _ upasuxa wmida ek-

vicim, _ Tuki dResve ar gavemgzavrebiT, xval miT ume-

tes ver wavalT~. amgvarad, elCis daRlilobis gamo

RmrTis saTno mosagre im RamiT monasterSi darCa. meo-

re dRes, gaTenebisTanave, iulianesTan sxva, axalgazrda

mociquli movida, romlis cxeni siCqarisgan suls Ra-

favda. man iulianes papis werili gadasca, romelSic is

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ubrZanebda, RmrTis saTno mosagre monastridan gamgzav-

rebiT ar Seewuxebina. rodesac iuliane dainteresda,

ram aiZula papi Seecvala brZaneba, Sikrikma miugo: swo-

red im RamiT, rodesac iuliane monasterSi gamoemgzav-

ra, paps sazarel CvenebaSi sayveduriT uTxres _ ro-

gor gakadnierda, monastridan moexmo RmrTis saTno ka-

ci. iuliane maSinve wmida ekvicisTan wavida, Tavi mis

locvas Sehvedra da acnoba, rom papma brZana ar Seewu-

xebinaT is monastridan gamgzavrebiT. amis gagonebaze

ekvici damwuxrda da Tqva: `guSin xom giTxari, Tu ax-

lave ar gavemgzavrebiT, Semdeg saerTod veRar wavalT-

meTqi~. Semdeg moisurva axalgazrda Sikrikis mimarT

siyvaruli gamoexata, Tavis senakSi waiyvana da gaweuli

SromisTvis gvarianad daajildova, Tumca yrma uarze

iyo da fulis aReba ar surda. gulisxmayav, sayvarelo

petre, ufali rogor ifaravs imaT, vinc am cxovrebaSi

Tavs imdableben, da zecis moqalaqeTa Soris rogor

aRiracxebian isini, vinc adamianTagan ugulebelyofas

ar Takiloben; piriqiT, RmerTis TvalSi ugulebelyo-

filni arian isini, vinc amao didebas eZieben moyvasisa

da sakuTari Tavis winaSe. amitom brZanebs Tavad WeSma-

riteba: `Tquen xarT, romelni ganimarTlebT TavTa

TvisTa winaSe kacTa, xolo RmerTman icnis gulni Tqu-

enni, rameTu kacTa Soris maRali saZagel ars winaSe

RmrTisa~ (luk. 16, 15).

petre: gakvirvebuli var, aseT did adamians papis wi-

naSe rogor daswames cili?

grigoli: ra aris sakvirveli, petre? Cven, yvelani,

rogorc adamianebi, gana codvebs ar vemonebiT? nuTu ar

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ici, rom daviTma, winaswarmetyvelebis suliT aRvsilma

kacma, ionaTanis Ze monis ciliswamebis Sedegad dasaja?

(2 mef. 16, 3-4). Cven gvwams, rom mefe daviTis gankargu-

leba, CvenTvis miuwvdomeli saRmrTo gangebulebiT, sa-

marTliani iyo, magram amave dros ar viciT, adamianuri

gagebiT rogor SevuTavsoT es qmedeba samarTlianobas.

gana sakvirvelia amis Semdeg, rom Cven, vinc winaswar-

metyvelni ara varT, zogjer uflebas vaZlevT cilis-

mwamebelTa enas, codvaSi Cagvagdos? miT umetes ar aris

sakvirveli, Tuki amgvari brZola romelime umaRles ie-

rarqs SeemTxveva, romelsac uamravi sazrunavi aqvs.

rodesac yuradReba mraval saganze ifanteba, is erT-

erT maTganze naklebad Cerdeba da rac ufro mraval sa-

gans swvdeba Cveni goneba, erT-erTi maTganiT miT ufro

advilad tyuvdeba.

petre: mamao, sruliad marTebulia Seni sityvebi.

grigoli: ar SemiZlia ar gadmogce, Tu ra Sevityve am

winamZRvris Sesaxeb Rirsi valentinisgan. misi TqmiT,

wmida ekvicis sxeuli dakrZales wmida mowame lavren-

tis taZarSi. erTxel mis saflavze erTma glexma Wur-

WliT puri dado. man ar icoda, vin ganisvenebda iq, arc

gamoukiTxavs da misTvis arc Tayvani ucia. uecrad Zli-

eri qari amovarda, taZarSi yvelaferi ucvlelad iyo

Tavis adgilze, mxolod saflavze moTavsebuli WurWe-

li gadatyorcna Sors. amdenad, yvelasTvis cxadi gax-

da, ra didi wmindani ganisvenebda im adgilze.

agreTve mogaxseneb imas, rac gadmomca adre xsene-

bulma fortunatem, romelsac did pativs vcem rogorc

asakis, aseve _ sulieri Rvawlisa da ubraloebis gamo.

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valeriis olqs Tavs daesxnen longobardebi (erT-erTi

goTuri tomi); maSin wmida ekvicis monastris monaz-

vnebma xsenebul monasters Seafares Tavi. rodesac gaS-

magebuli longobardebi taZarSi SeiWrnen da monazvnebi

gareT garekes, raTa ewamebinaT da amoexocaT, erT-er-

Tma Zmam sulTqmiTa da mwuxarebiT SesZaxa: `hoi, wmidao

ekvici! nuTu inebeb da mtarvalTa xelSi dagvtoveb?~ am

locvis Semdeg gacofebul longobardebs arawmida su-

li ekveTa, miwaze dasca da iqamde awamebda, vidre amis

Sesaxeb taZris gareT myofi longobardebi Seityobdnen.

amis Semdeg arc erTi maTgani aRar gakadnierebula ase-

Ti siSmagiT dasxmoda Tavs wmida adgils. amgvarad daic-

va wmida ekvicim Tavisi mowafeebi da amis Semdegac mra-

valT Seeweoda, vinc mis saflavs locva-vedrebiT mieax-

leboda.

Tavi mexuTe

konstantine, wmida stefanes taZris mnaTe

grigoli: axla imas giambob, rac erT nacnob episko-

posTan saubrisas Sevityve. is mravali wlis manZilze

monazoni iyo qalaq ankonSi da RmrTismoSiSebiT cxov-

robda. mis naambobs imave qalaqis sxva, xnieri moqalaqe-

ebic adastureben. qalaq ankonis siaxloves wmida mowame

stefanes taZari mdebareobda, sadac mnaTis movaleobas

pativsacemi kaci, konstantine asrulebda. misi ubiwo

cxovrebis Sesaxeb xma Sors gavrcelda, radgan am ada-

mianma yovelive amqveyniuri sruliad moiZula da su-

liT mxolod zeciurs eswrafoda. erTxel taZarSi ze-

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Ti SemoakldaT da RmrTis mona konstantines aRaraferi

hqonda, rom kandelebi aenTo. man sruliad uSfoTve-

lad, kandelebSi wyali Caasxa da patruqic CauSva. ro-

desac patruqs cecxli moukida, wyali ise iwvoda, TiT-

qos kandelebSi zeTi esxa. dafiqrdi, sayvarelo petre,

Tu ra didi mosagre iyo konstantine, romelsac gaWir-

vebisas stiqiaTa Tvisebebis Secvla SeeZlo.

petre: WeSmaritad, sakvirvelia Seni monaTxrobi, ma-

mao, magram msurs vicode, es adamiani, aseT uCveulo ga-

regan saqmeebs rom aRasrulebda, Sinagani Tavmdablobis

romel safexurze idga?

grigoli: kargia, rom saswaulmoqmedebaSi adamianis

sulieri mdgomareobis gamoZiebas cdilob, radgan gare-

gani saswaulmoqmedeba suls Zlier gansacdelSi agdebs.

magram rogori simdabliT iyo mosili wmida konstanti-

ne, maSinve mixvdebi, rogorc ki misi erT-erTi saqmis

Sesaxeb giambob.

petre: aseTi didi saswaulis Semdeg isRa dagrCenia,

misi sulieri simdablis Sesaxeb miambo.

grigoli: rodesac konstantines siwmidis ambavi

Sors gavrcelda, uamravma xalxma iwyo mosvla dauoke-

beli surviliT, rom enaxaT igi. erTxel Soreuli qvey-

nidan mis sanaxavad erTi glexi Camovida. im dros wmida

konstantine xis skamze idga da kandelebs asworebda. is

tandabali, gamxdari da Seuxedavi iyo. mis sanaxavad Ca-

mosuli kaci yvelas ekiTxeboda, sad SeiZleboda wminda-

nis naxva da sTxovda eCvenebinaT igi. vinc wmindans ic-

nobda, misi wadili aRasrules. umecari adamianebi xSi-

rad sulier saTnoebebze garegnuli saxiT msjeloben.

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am kacmac, rodesac tandabali da Seuxedavi adamiani da-

inaxa, gaifiqra, rom es wmindani ar iqneboda. mas moeCve-

na, rom rac gaego wmindanis Sesaxeb, TvaliT nanaxs ar

Seesabameboda. SeuZlebelia, fiqrobda is, ase saxelgan-

Tqmuli adamiani aseTi Seuxedavi iyos. rodesac mraval-

ma daudastura, rom is swored saxelganTqmuli wminda-

ni iyo, man upativcemulod da dacinviT Tqva: `vfiqrob-

di Rirseul kacs vnaxavdi, es ki adamiansac ar hgavs~.

gaigo Tu ara es sityvebi konstantinem, maSinve miatova

saqme, glexs gaxarebuli mieWra, gulSi Caikra, uCveu-

lo siyvaruliT eambora da mTeli guliT madlobda,

rom amgvarad moixsenia igi: `Sen erTaderTma Tqvi Cem

Sesaxeb simarTle~, _ ambobda wmindani. aqedan SeiZleba

davaskvnaT, ra didi iyo wmindanis simdable, mis Sesaxeb

uxeiro naTqvamis miuxedavad, glexis mimarT aseTi siy-

varuli rom gamoxata. adamianis sulieri xarisxi yve-

laze ukeT imiT Seicnoba, Tu rogor iTmens sxvebisgan

Seuracxyofas. ramdenadac ampartavanT sxvebisgan pati-

vis migeba uyvarT, imdenad Tavmdabalni maTi damdable-

biT xaroben. isini simSvides maSinac inarCuneben, rode-

sac sxvebi Seuracxyofen, radgan xedaven, rom sakuTar

Tavze maTi Sexeduleba sxvaTa mier dasturdeba.

petre: vxedav, rom es wmindani didi iyo saswaulmoq-

medebiT, magram ufro didi iyo simdabliT.

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Tavi meeqvse

ankonis episkoposi marcelini

imave qalaq ankonSi episkoposad iyo vinme marcelini,

romelic mkacrad moRvaweobda. mas fexebi dauavadda da

siaruli aRar SeeZlo. amitom, rodesac sadme gamgzav-

reba uxdeboda, msaxurebs sakaciT mihyavdaT. erTxel,

viRacis daudevrobiT, ankonSi xanZari gaCnda. cecxlma

swrafad imZlavra. yvela xanZris Caqrobas cdilobda,

magram miuxedavad maTi gulmodgine mcdelobisa, cec-

xli sul ufro Zlierdeboda da mTel qalaqs gadawviT

emuqreboda. rodesac cecxlma axlos mdebare Senobebi

moicva, qalaqis mniSvnelovani nawili daiwva da mis gav-

rcelebas verafriT ewinaaRmdegebodnen, am dros epis-

koposi gamoiyvanes. saerTo ubedurebiT SeZrulma mar-

celinma, sakacis mtvirTvelebs ubrZana sakace cecxlis

win daedgaT. rodesac maT brZaneba Seasrules da sakace

iq dadges, sadac cecxli gansakuTrebiT mZvinvarebda,

xanZarma, yvelas gasaocrad, iklo da TiTqos Tavadve am-

cno iq myofT, rom ver gadalaxavs im adgils, sadac

episkoposia. amgvarad, SeCerebuli xanZari TavisiT Caq-

ra da sxva Senobebi gadarCa. gulisxmayav, sayvarelo

petre, ra siwmindiT iyo mosili es uZluri adamiani,

rodesac SeZlo locviT Caeqro saSineli cecxli.

petre: vxvdebi da gancvifrebuli var.

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Tavi meSvide

nonozi, saraqtis mTis monastris ekonomosi

grigoli: axla giambob ra Sevityve ankonis mezoblad

mdebare adgilis Sesaxeb, SenTvis cnobil pirebTan _

Rirseul episkopos maqsiminTan da mRvdel-monazon lav-

rionTan saubrisas. isini amJamadac cocxlebi arian. mo-

xuc lavrions qalaq nemezis maxlobel supentonis mo-

nasterSi mzrunvelobas uwevda vinme anastasi, romelic

wmida cxovrebas eweoda. supentonis monasterTan ax-

los, saraqtis mTaze, mdebareobda sxva monasteri. iq

erTma Rirsma mosagrem, ekonomosma nonozma, amaRlebu-

li da mkacri cxovrebiT gaiTqva saxeli. am mizeziT da

agreTve monasterTan siaxlovis gamo, anastasi nonozis

sanaxavad xSirad midioda. nonozis monastris winam-

ZRvars Zalian ficxi xasiaTi hqonda, magram nonozi mis

mrisxanebas mudam sakvirveli simSvidiT iTmenda. is sim-

SvidiT mTel saZmos aRemateboda da xSirad Tavisi sim-

dabliT winamZRvars amSvidebda. radgan monasteri mTis

mwvervalze mdebareobda, Zmebi bostnis gasaSeneblad pa-

tara adgilsac ver poulobdnen. mTis ferdze erTi ad-

gili ki iyo, magram mas mTidan gadmoSverili klde fa-

ravda. erTxel wmida nonozma gaifiqra, rom bostnis-

Tvis am adgilis gamoyeneba SeiZleboda, magram klde im-

denad didi iyo, rom ormocdaaTi wyvili xaric ver SeZ-

lebda mis gadaadgilebas, adamianuri Zala am saqmisTvis

xom sruliad ususuri iyo. wmindanma RmerTs mouxmo Se-

wevnisTvis da Ramis siwynareSi locvas mieca. diliT iq

misulma Zmebma ixiles, rom uzarmazari lodi im adgi-

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lidan Sors gadavardniliyo da maT bostnisTvis farTo

sivrce darCenodaT.

es wmindani sxva dros taZris stoaSi minis kandelebs

asufTavebda. erTi kandeli xelidan gauvarda da daim-

sxvra. winamZRvris SiSiT, nonozma namsxvrevebi moagro-

va, sakurTxevlis win moaTavsa da sulTqmiT iloca:

locvis Semdeg wamomdgarma naxa, rom kandeli, romlis

namsxvrevebs SiSiT agrovebda, gamTelebuliyo. amgva-

rad, am ori saswaulis aRsrulebiT, is or wmindans mi-

emsgavsa: kldis mowyvetiT _ wmida grigols, romelmac

sityviT mTa gadaaadgila, xolo kandelis gamTelebiT _

wmida donates, romelmac damsxvreuli WurWeli aRad-

gina.

petre: vxedav, rom winaT aRsrulebuli saswaulebi

amJamadac meordeba.

grigoli: Tu gsurs, imasac giambob, ra aRasrula

wmida nonozma winaswarmetyvel elises mibaZviT.

petre: mouTmenlad msurs movismino.

grigoli: erTxel monasterSi zeTi SemoakldaT. am

dros, Tumca zeTisxilis mokrefis dro iyo, monastris

baRSi xeebs araferi esxa. monastris winamZRvarma Zmebi

axlo mdebare soflebSi gagzavna, rom soflelebs ze-

Tisxilis mokrefaSi daxmarebodnen da Sromis safasu-

riT monastrisTvis cotaodeni zeTi SeeZinaT. RmrTis

kaci nonozi udidesi simSvidiT win aRudga amas, radgan

eSinoda, ZmaTagan vinmes, monastridan zeTis mosapoveb-

lad gasvlis Semdeg sulieri ziani ar ganecada. monas-

tris baRSi zeTisxilis xeebs aqa-iq esxa nayofi. wmida

nonozma brZana moekrifaT, gamoewuraT maTgan zeTi da

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misTvis mietanaT. misi brZaneba Seasrules da Zmebma ga-

mowuruli zeTi patara WurWliT miutanes wmindans.

rodesac yvelani wavid-wamovidnen, wmida nonozma zeTi-

ani WurWeli sakurTxevlis win dadga da RmrTis mimarT

iloca. rodesac Zmebi dabrundnen, ubrZana monastris

yvela WurWelSi cot-cota zeTi CaesxaT da WurWlebi

daexuraT. rodesac gaxsnes, aRmoCnda, rom isini zeTiT

avsebuliyo.

petre: axla cxadia, rogor mouklebelad aResrule-

ba uflis sityvebi: `mamaÁ Cemi moaqamde iqms da meca

viqm~ (ioan. 5, 17).

Tavi merve

anastasi _ supentonis monastris winamZRvari

grigoli: imave xanebSi Rirsi anastasi, romelic ukve

vaxseneT, notariusad msaxurobda romis eklesiaSi1,

romelsac amJamad, RmrTis wyalobiT, me vemsaxurebi.

man moisurva, cxovreba RmerTisTvis mieZRvna, werilo-

biTi saqmeebi miatova da sacxovreblad swored is su-

pentonis monasteri airCia, romelic ukve vaxseneT.

anastasi, rogorc mzrunveli mwyemsi, marTavda monas-

ters da RvawlSi mravali weli gaatara. mTis wverze

uzarmazari klde iyo gadmoSvebuli, mis qvemoT ki fri-

alo kalTa eSveboda. rodesac yovlisSemZle RmerTis

nebiT ukve moaxlovda dro, miwier cxovrebaSi aRsru-

lebuli RvawlisaTvis anastasis misagebeli mieRo, erT

1 notariusi (romis eklesiaSi) eklesiis werilobiTi saqmeebiT

iyo dakavebuli.

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Rames am maRali kldidan xma gaisma, romelsac didi xma-

uri axlda: `anastasi, modi!~ amis Semdeg sxva Svidi

Zmac saxeldebiT iqna moxmobili. Semdeg xma cota xniT

miCumda, magram male kidev erT Zmas mouxmo. es mTel

saZmos esmoda da aravis eeWveboda, rom imaT aRsasruls

moaswavebda, visac xmam mimarTa. marTlac, ramdenime

dReSi jer anastasi aResrula, xolo Semdeg danarCene-

bic im TanamimdevrobiT, rogorc xmam mouwoda. im Zmam,

romelic xmam mcireodeni xnis Semdeg miixmo, danarCen

Zmebze met xans icocxla da Semdeg aResrula. aqedan

cxadia, rom xmis dumili ramdenime dRis sicocxles

niSnavda. am dros amgvari saswauli moxda: rodesac wmi-

da anastasis aRsasruli uaxlovdeboda, masTan erTi Zma

mivida, romelsac ar surda winamZRvris gardacvalebis

Semdeg didxans ecocxla, wmindanis ferxTiT davarda

da cremliT Seevedra: `RmerTis saxels gaficeb, ro-

melTanac miicvlebi, ar dauSva, rom Seni gardacvale-

bis Semdeg Svid dReze met xans vicocxlo~. marTlac,

ar gasula Svidi dRe anastasis gardacvalebis Semdeg,

rom es Zmac aResrula, Tumca igi sxvebTan erTad im Ra-

miT xmas ar mouxmia. cxadia, rom mxolod wmida anasta-

sis locvas SeeZlo mieniWebina misTvis aRsasruli.

petre: mamao, Tuki Zma amqveynidan mxolod wmida anas-

tasis locviT gavida da mas xmam ar mouwoda, xom ar Se-

iZleba aqedan gamovitanoT daskvna, rom did wmindanebs

TavianTi locviT zogjer SeuZliaT miiRon is, rac ar

iyo RmerTis mier winaswar gansazRvruli?

grigoli: ara, rac RmerTis mier winaswar gansaz-

Rvruli ar aris, imas isini ver miiReben; rasac Tavian-

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Ti locvis pasuxad iReben, is gansazRvrulia, anu is

locvis meoxebiT ise unda aResrulos kidec. yovlis-

SemZle RmerTis mier TviT caTa sasufevlis damkvidre-

ba imgvarad aris winaswar gansazRvruli, rom rCeulni

mas RvawlisaTvis iReben; isini locviT moipoveben ni-

Webs, romlebic yovlisSemZle RmerTis mier maTTvis

iyo winaswargansazRvruli uwinares yovelTa saukune-

Ta.

petre: gTxov, mamao, srulad ganmimarte: locva ro-

gor aRasrulebs winaswargansazRvrulobas?

grigoli: sayvarelo petre, Cem mier gamoTqmuli

mokled amgvarad SemiZlia gangimarto. Sen, ueWvelia,

ici, ra uTxra odesRac RmerTma abraams: `isakisagan ge-

wodos Sen naTesavad~ (dab. 21, 12) da agreTve sxva adgi-

las: `mamad mravalTa TeslTa dagdev Sen~ (dab. 17, 5).

mas kidev amgvari aRTqma mieca: `kurTxeviT gakurTxo

Sen da ganmravlebiT ganvamravlo naTesavi Seni, viTarca

varskulavni cisani da viTarca qKSaY zRKskidisaY~ (dab.

22, 17). es aRTqmani cxadad gviCvenebs _ yovlisSemZle

RmerTma winaswar gansazRvra, rom abraamis Tesli isa-

aks gaemravlebina. amave dros, ai ras vkiTxulobT sxva

adgilas: `da evedreboda isak RmerTsa colisa TKsisa

rebekasTKis, rameTu berw iyo. da Seismina misi RmerTman

da muclad-iRo colman misman, rebeka~ (dab. 25, 21). Tu-

ki winaswargansazRvrulobiT abraamis STamomavloba

isaakisgan unda gamravlebuliyo, maSin misi coli berwi

ratom iyo? swored aqedan Cans, rom winaswargansaz-

Rvruloba locviT aResruleba, radgan imas, visac ab-

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raamis STamomavloba unda gaemravlebina, Svilebi mxo-

lod locviT mieca.

petre: mamao, Seni sityvebiT saidumlo gamexsna da

ukve araviTari eWvi aRar maSfoTebs.

grigoli: Tu gsurs, im wmida mamaTa Sesaxeb giambob,

romlebic tusciaSi cxovrobdnen, raTa icode rogori

moRvaweebi iyvnen iq da TavianTi SemecnebiT rogor uax-

lovdebodnen RmerTs.

petre: guliTadad gTxov, miambo maT Sesaxeb.

Tavi mecxre

bonifaci, Terentis episkoposi

qalaq TerentSi episkoposad iyo vinme bonifaci, ke-

TilmoRvawe kaci, romelic Tavisi cxovrebiT saepisko-

poso kaTedras amSvenebda. mis Sesaxeb presviteri gav-

denci miambobda, romelic amJamadac cocxalia. is boni-

facis xelmZRvanelobiT izrdeboda da mis mier aRsru-

lebul saqmeTa mowme iyo, amitomac SeeZlo masze utyua-

ri cnobebis mowodeba. Terentis eklesia im xanad uki-

dures SeWirvebas ganicdida (siRaribe keTili adamiane-

bisTvis, rogorc wesi, simdablis mcvelia): misi saarse-

bo saxsari erTaderTi venaxi iyo. erTxel iseTi Zlieri

setyva movida, rom mtevnebi mTel venaxSi aqa-iq Semor-

Ca. rodesac amis Semdeg xsenebuli RmrTis mona, episko-

posi bonifaci, venaxSi Sevida, yovladZlier RmerTs

madloba Seswira imisTvis, rom ukiduresi gaWirvebis

Jams mwuxareba mouvlina. rodesac yurZnis damwifebis

dro dadga, episkoposma wesisamebr brZana mcveli dam-

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dgariyo venaxSi da daavala, rac SeiZleba fxizlad eda-

raja. Semdeg Tavis SviliSvils, presviter konstanti-

nes ubrZana yvelaferi moemzadebina, rac RvinisTvis iyo

saWiro, upirveles yovlisa ki, saepiskoposoSi moemza-

debinaT WurWeli da kasrebi, romlebic winaswar gafi-

ses. amgvarma brZanebam presviteri SviliSvili gaaoca,

mas ucnaurad eCvena: risTvis brZana episkoposma Rvinis

WurWlis momzadeba, rodesac Rvino (yurZnis simciris

gamo) TiTqmis ar unda dawuruliyo? magram ar gamou-

kiTxavs, ris gamo gaica amgvari brZaneba da yvelaferi

Seasrula. amis Semdeg RmrTis saTno bonifaci venaxSi

wavida, darCenili yurZnis mtevnebi dakrifa, sawnaxel-

Si Caawyo da yvelas ubrZana wasuliyvnen, mxolod mci-

rewlovan yrmasTan erTad darCa da ubrZana mas Casuli-

yo sawnaxelSi da mtevnebi daeWylita. yurZeni sakmaod

cota iyo. rodesac mcireodeni wveni gamoiwura,

RmrTis kacma sakuTari xeliT patara WurWelSi Caasxa

da locva-kurTxeviT yvela momzadebul kasrsa da Wur-

WelSi gaanawila, ise, rom zogierT maTganSi TiTqmis

araferi esxa. amis Semdeg episkoposma presviters ub-

rZana glaxakebi moexmo. rogorc ki es brZaneba aRsrul-

da, sawnaxelSi imdeni Rvino aRmoCnda, rom upovarTa

yvela WurWeli gaivso. rodesac maTi moTxovnileba dak-

mayofilda, wmindanma yrmas ubrZana sawnaxelidan amo-

suliyo; amis Semdeg marani daketa, Tavisi beWdiT dabeW-

da da saxlSi dabrunda. mesame dRes presviter konstan-

tines uxmo, locva aRavlina da marani gaxsna. aRmoCnda,

rom yvela WurWeli, romelSic episkoposma ramdenime

wveTi yurZnis wveni Caasxa, RviniT piramde avsebuliyo

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da cotac rom daegviana, marnis iataki RviniT daifare-

boda. maSin man presviteri mkacrad gaafrTxila, boni-

facis sicocxleSi am saswaulis Sesaxeb aravisTvis eT-

qva. wmindans eSinoda, aRsrulebuli saswaulis gamo

adamianTa mier ar gandidebuliyo, rac sulisTvis zia-

nis momtani iqneboda. amgvarad, igi moZRvars baZavda,

romelic sakuTari magaliTiT simdables gvaswavlida,

rodesac mowafeebs amcno misi saswaulebis Sesaxeb ara-

visTvis eTqvaT, vidre `Ze kacisaÁ mkudreTiT aRdges~

(maT. 17, 9).

petre: ramdenadac Sesaferisi SemTxveva momeca,

msurs dagekiTxo, mamao, ratom aukrZala Cvenma mxsnelma

or brmas, romelTac Tvali auxila, gaendoT vinmesTvis

es saswauli, maT ki mTel qveyanas amcnes (maT. 9, 27-31)?

nuTu mxolodSobilma Zem, mamisa da suli wmidis Tanasa-

maradisom, is ganizraxa, rac ar aRsruldeboda, anu ar

esaubraT saswaulis Sesaxeb, romlis dafarvac SeuZle-

beli iyo?

grigoli: yovelives, rasac Cveni mxsneli mokvdav

sxeulSi myofi aRasrulebda, imisTvis aRasrulebda,

rom CvenTvis misabaZi magaliTi moeca, raTa Cven, Zali-

saebr gavyolodiT mis nakvalevs da waborZikebis gareSe

gagvevlo amqveyniuri cxovrebis gza. man saswauli aRas-

rula da misi gaxmaureba aukrZala, Tumca es SeuZlebe-

li iyo. amiT surda eCvenebina, rom Tuki RmrTis rCe-

ulT surT mibaZon mis magaliTs da swavlebas, rodesac

did saswauls aRasruleben, gulis siRrmeSi unda isur-

von, rom es saqme dafaruli darCes, Tundac, maTi nebis

sawinaaRmdegod, es saqme sxvaTa sasargeblod gacxad-

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des. radgan, rogorc survili, rom udidesi saqmeebi

darCes dafarulad, niSania udidesi simdablisa, aseve

maTi gaxmaurebiT sargebels hpoveben sxvebi. amitom

RmerTs eneba ara is, rom SeuZlebeli ram aRsrulebu-

liyo, aramed mxolod Cveni swavlebisTvis surda saku-

Tari magaliTiT eCvenebina, ra unda surdeT misi (sai-

dumlo) sxeulis asoebs da ra SeiZleba ewinaaRmdegebo-

des maT survils.

petre: sruliad gulsavse var, mamao, Seni ganmarte-

biT.

grigoli: ramdenadac wmida bonifacis Sesaxeb daviw-

yeT saubari, mis mier aRsrulebuli kidev ramdenime

saswauli msurs gadmogce. erTxel mowame prokules

xsenebis dRe axlovdeboda. maSin TerentSi erTi saxel-

ganTqmuli kaci, saxelad fortunate, cxovrobda. is mo-

metebulad evedreboda Rirs bonifacis, rom sadResas-

waulo RmrTismsaxurebis dasrulebis Semdeg, netari

mowamis pativad, saxlSi swveoda da daeloca. RmrTis

saTno mamam fortunates guliTad Txovnaze uari ver

uTxra. amitom sadResaswaulo RmrTismsaxurebis das-

rulebis Semdgom ewvia kidec saxlSi trapezis dros.

magram vidre trapezis win locvas daasrulebda, sax-

lis karTan erTi kaci gamoCnda musikaluri instrumen-

tebiT da winwila aaxmiana (zogierTebs aqvT amgvari Cve-

uleba, saWmeli musikis TanxlebiT miiRon). wmindani uk-

mayofilod usmenda musikis hangebs da Tqva: `hoi, kvde-

ba, kvdeba es ubeduri! movedi am sasiamovno trapezze da

uflis dideba ver movaswari, rom man ukve daukra Tavi-

si simRera~. Semdeg daumata: `wadiT, siyvaruliT Ses-

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TavazeT saWmel-sasmeli, magram icodeT, rom is mkvda-

ria~. marTlac, rodesac am sacodav kacs gautanes puri

da Rvino da is ukan gabrunda, saxlis saxuravidan

uzarmazari qva gadmovarda da Tavze daeca. is cocxal-

mkvdari aiyvanes da meore dRes, wmindanis winaswarmet-

yvelebis Tanaxmad, gamoeTxova sicocxles. dafiqrdi,

sayvarelo petre, rogori keTilkrZaluli SiSi gvmar-

Tebs wmindanTa mimarT, romelTa sulebSic cxadad

mkvidrobs RmerTi! da rodesac risxviT aRivseba wminda-

ni, visia es risxva, Tu ara imisi, vinc uxilavad mkvid-

robs wmindanis sulSi? amitom miT ufro unda gveSino-

des, rom marTali kaci ar ganvarisxoT, ramdenadac

ueWvelia, rom mis gulSi marad mkvidrobs is, romelsac

Tvisi nebisaebr yovelTvis ZaluZs Surisgeba.

erTxel xsenebulma presviterma konstantinem, wmida

bonifacis SviliSvilma, Tavisi cxeni Tormet drahkanad

gayida, fuli zandukSi Cado da saqmis gamo sadRac gaem-

gzavra. swored am dros episkoposs saxlSi glaxakebma

moakiTxes da evedrebodnen maT upovarebas Seweoda, mag-

ram RmrTis kacs araferi hqonda maTTvis rom mieca da

Sewuxda, upovrebs xelcariels rom uSvebda. uceb gaax-

senda, rom misma SviliSvilma cxeni gayida da fuli zan-

dukSi Cado. miuxedavad imisa, rom is saxlSi ar iyo, mo-

Zebna zanduki, wmida ganzraxvis aRsrulebis mizniT ga-

texa saketi, amoiRo Tormeti drahkani da Tavisi Sexe-

dulebisamebr gauyo upovarT. rodesac konstantine

dabrunda, naxa, rom zanduki gatexili iyo da Sig fuli

aRar ido. Zlier ganrisxebulma xmamaRla iyvira: `aq

yvela Tavis nebaze cxovrobs, marto me ara maqvs Cems ne-

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baze cxovrebis ufleba!~ amis gagonebaze episkoposi da

saepiskoposos mcxovrebni gamovidnen. wmindanma presvi-

teris damSvideba scada, is ki yvirils ganagrZobda:

`yvela mSvidad cxovrobs Sens monasterSi, marto me ar

maZlev mosvenebas! damibrune fuli!~ damwuxrebuli

episkoposi yovladwmida RmrTismSoblis taZarSi Sevi-

da, Seimosa samRvdelo Sesamoseli, xelebi zecad aRap-

yro da yovladwmidas mimarT locva daiwyo, rom is Se-

weoda presviteris ugunuri mrisxanebis dacxromaSi.

locvis dasrulebis Semdeg episkoposma Sesamoslis

ubeSi Tormeti drahkani aRmoaCina, romlebic ise

brwyinavdnen, TiTqos axali moWrili iyo. is maSinve

ganrisxebul presviterTan dabrunda da daubruna fu-

li sityvebiT: `aha, Seni fuli, magram icode, siZunwis

gamo Cemi sikvdilis Semdeg episkoposi ver gaxdebi!~

wmindanis sityvebidan Cans, rom presviteri am fuls

episkoposobis survilis gamo agrovebda. wmindanis wi-

naswarmetyveleba axda: konstantine presviteris xa-

risxSi aResrula.

erTxel wmida bonifacis monasterSi ori guTi Semo-

vida, isini ravenaSi miiCqarodnen. wmindanma maT patara

WurWelSi Rvino Causxa, raTa gzaSi enugeSaT. am patara

WurWelSi guTebs Rvino TviT ravenamde ar gamoleviaT.

maT ramdenime dRe dahyves iq, Rvinos yoveldRe svamdnen

da is ar iklebda. bolos imave gziT dabrundnen Teren-

tSi wmindanTan, Rvinos yoveldRiurad svamdnen, magram

WurWels sasmeli ar akldeboda: Rvino ki ar imatebda,

aramed ar akldeboda.

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axlaxan im mxaridan erTi moxuci klerikosi (sam-

Rvdelo dasis wevri) mewvia. ar SemiZlia ar gadmogce

misi monaTxrobi wmida bonifacis Sesaxeb. erTxel wmin-

danma monastris baRSi naxa, rom mcenareebs Wia Seseoda,

gansakuTrebiT bostneuli iyo ganadgurebuli. maSin man

mimarTa WiaRuas: `saxeliTa ieso qristesiTa, gibrZa-

neb, datovo bostneuli da aRar gaanadguro~. WiaRua

myisve sadRac ukvalod gaqra. es saswaulebi wmida boni-

facim episkoposis xarisxSi myofma aRasrula, rodesac

xarisxis madlTan erTad zneobrivadac waremateboda

RmerTis winaSe, rac ar aris imdenad gasakviri, ramde-

nadac is saswaulebi, romelTac, rogorc is moxuci

klerikosi mogviTxrobda, siyrmeSi aRasrulebda. im

dros, rodesac is dedasTan erTad cxovrobda, xSirad

saxlSi dabrunebuls samosi ar ecva, radgan sxvadasxva

saxlSi stumrobisas, Tuki SiSvel glaxas naxavda, ix-

dida da aZlevda im imediT, rom TviT RmerTi, romlis

TvalTa winaSe aRasrulebda sikeTes, miagebda mas. deda

xSirad tuqsavda da sayvedurobda, ratom aZlevda

sxvebs tansacmels, rodesac TviTonac Raribi iyo. er-

Txel is beRelSi Sevida, sadac mTeli wlis samyofi

xorbali eguleboda da beReli carieli daxvda. mis vaJs

xorbali glaxakebisTvis mieca. deda sasowarkveTilebam

moicva da unugeSod atirda, rom sarCo mTeli weli

aRar eqneboda. bonifacim dedis damSvideba scada, mag-

ram misi sityvebi arafers Sveloda. maSin man sTxova

dedas gasuliyo beRlidan da RmrTis winaSe locvas mie-

ca. ramdenime xnis Semdeg dedas mouxmo. beRelSi imaze

meti xorbali aRmoCnda, vidre mas zamTrisTvis hqonda

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gadanaxuli. deda gaocda am saswaulis xilvisas da

yrmis locvis Zala rom Seicno, im dRidan xorblis ga-

cemas TviTon aiZulebda. dedas yovelTvis hyavda sax-

lSi ramdenime Sinauri frinveli. maT mela SeeCvia. er-

Txel, rodesac yrma bonifaci SemoRobilSi iyo, sadac

qaTmebi hyavdaT, melam mis Tvalwin moitaca erTi maTga-

ni. yrma myisve eklesiaSi wavida da RmerTs mimarTa:

`RmerTo, nuTu Sen gsurs, rom dedis mier momzadebuli

saWmeli verc ki gavsinjo? is zrdis qaTmebs, mela ki

gviWams!~ locvis dasrulebis Semdeg taZridan gamosu-

li xedavs: mela dabrunda da piriT motacebuli qaTami

moiyvana; qaTams piri gauSva da bonifacis Tvalwin usu-

lod daeca.

petre: sakvirvelia, rogor aRasrulebs RmerTi msa-

soebelTa misTa vedrebas, TviT amgvar umniSvnelo sag-

nebTan dakavSirebiTac ki.

grigoli: es yovelive, sayvarelo petre, Cveni yov-

ladbrZeni Semoqmedis ganzraxviT aResruleba, raTa

rodesac miviRebT mcireds, aRvzardoT CvenSi sasoeba,

rom miviRebT umetessac. ubralo da RmrTismosavma

yrmam ixila Tavisi gulwrfeli survilis aRsruleba

da amiT unda mimxvdariyo, rogori kadniereba SeiZleba

hqonoda RmerTis winaSe, roca umetess gamoiTxovda.

petre: marTals brZaneb, mamao.

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Tavi meaTe

tudertis episkoposi fortunate

grigoli: imave qveyanaSi, qalaq tudertSi, episkopo-

sad iyo vinme fortunate, romelic RmrTis saTnod

cxovrobda. man RmerTisgan uCveulo niWi miiRo _ araw-

mida sulebs ganagdebda, zogjer misi locvis ZaliT eS-

makTa mTeli legionebi tovebdnen maT mier Sepyrobil

adamianebs. aseTive umtkicesi locvis meoxebiT ganag-

debda is masze Tavdamsxmel eSmakTa mxedrobas. wmida

fortunatesTan daaxloebuli iyo Cveni eklesiis defen-

sori iuliane, romelic axlaxan romSi aResrula. swo-

red misi monaTxrobi msurs gadmogce. iuliane, fortu-

natesTan siaxlovis gamo, xSirad mis mier aRsrulebul

saqmeTa mowme xdeboda da iseTi saamo iyo wmindanis Se-

saxeb misi mogonebebis mosmena, TiTqos mis bageTagan

Tafli mowveTavda.

erT didgvarovan qalbatons tusciis maxloblad

hyavda rZali, romelic arcTu didi xnis win gahyva co-

lad mis vaJs. erTxel dedamTilma is qmarTan erTad mi-

iwvia, raTa erTad daswrebodnen wmida sebastianes taZ-

ris kurTxevas. RamiT rZalma Tavi ver Seikava qmarTan

Tanacxovrebisagan. diliT am TavSeukaveblobis gamo

sindisis Zlieri qenjna igrZno, magram Sercxva uari

eTqva miwvevaze. amgvarad, ufro adamianTa mimarT pir-

moTneobiT, vidre RmrTismoSiSebiT, dedamTilTan er-

Tad taZris kurTxevaze gaemgzavra. rodesac taZarSi

wmida mowame sebastianes wmida nawilebi SeabrZanes,

rZals boroti suli ekveTa da yvelas Tvalwin tanjav-

da. taZris erT-erTma presviterma sakurTxevlidan

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sindoni1 gamoitana da Sepyrobils daado, magram arawmi-

da suli masac ekveTa. amas mowmobda presviteris dauc-

xromeli Setevebi. dedakaci taZridan saxlSi gadaiyva-

nes. ZvelisZveli kacis mkvleli (eSmaki) mudmivad tan-

javda mas. Sepyrobilis mSoblebma misadmi siyvaruliT

(Tumca ara sulieri, aramed xorcieli siyvaruliT),

yovelgvar saSualebas mimarTes, raTa ganekurnaT, bo-

los viRac eqimbaSebs mihgvares: TiTqosda surdaT, rom

jadoqruli saSualebebiT xorcielad gaejansaRebinaT,

magram sabolood warewymidaT misi suli. eqimbaSebma is

mdinaresTan miiyvanes, wyalSi Caiyvanes da xangrZlivi

Selocva daiwyes, rom misgan arawmida suli ganedevnaT.

magram aRsrulda yovlisSemZle RmerTis gamoukvleve-

li gangebuleba: isini jadosnuri xelovnebiT misgan er-

Ti demonis gandevnas cdilobdnen, magram qals eSmakTa

mTeli legioni daeufla. amis Semdeg sneuli Zlier ig-

vemeboda da ise gaSmagebiT yviroda, rogorc eSmakTa

legionisgan iyo mosalodneli. raki ixiles TavianTi

crurwmenis nayofi, sneulis mSoblebma urTierTSeTan-

xmebiT is episkopos fortunatesTan miiyvanes da mas mi-

andes. mas uari ar uTqvams sneulis miRebaze da didxans,

dRedaRam loculobda, gaaZliera locvebi imis gamo,

rom cxadi iyo, erTi adamianisgan mTeli legioni unda

ganedevna. ramdenime dRis Semdeg fortunatem is sru-

liad gankurnebuli gadasca mSoblebs, TiTqos manamde

araferi awuxebda.

1 sindoni _ sudara, ardagi.

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sxva dros am RmrTis saTno moRvawem aseve ganagdo

arawmida suli erTi adamianisgan. dabindebisas, rode-

sac qalaqSi sruli simSvide sufevda, episkoposis mier

gangdebulma arawmida sulma mwiris saxe miiRo, qalaqis

quCebSi mimodioda da yviroda: `ai, ra miyo wmida epis-

koposma fortunatem! Tavisi saxlidan gaagdo mwiri! da

aha, TavSesafars veZeb qalaqSi da ver mipovia!~ es xma

moesma erT kacs, romelic saxlSi iyo da colTan da

mcirewlovan vaJTan erTad buxarTan ijda. man gamohkiT-

xa mwirs, ra Caidina episkoposma, Tavis saxlSi miiwvia

da gverdiT moisva. maT erTmaneTisTvis ramdenime sit-

yvis Tqma moaswres da arawmida suli maspinZlis mci-

rewlovan vaJs ekveTa, cecxlSi Caagdo da daaxrCo. ube-

duri mama maSinve mixvda, vin gaagdo episkoposma da Ta-

vad saxlSi vin Seifara.

petre: rogor, mamao, kacTmoZules SeeZlo mkvlelo-

ba Caedina imis saxlSi, vinc igi mwirad miiRo?

grigoli: mravali ram, petre, Cven kargad gveCveneba,

magram sinamdvileSi es ase ar aris imitom, rom keTili

mizniT ar aResruleba. amitom brZanebs ufali saxareba-

Si: `ukueTu Tuali Seni borot iyos, yoveli guami Seni

bnel iyos~ (maT. 6, 23). Tuki moqmedebas arawmida mizani

uZRvis win, maSin igi ukeTuri iqneba, kargadac rom

gveCvenebodes. ase iyo am SemTxvevaSic: Semdgomma sas-

jelma cxadyo, rom saqme arawmida mizniT aResrula.

vfiqrob, es adamiani, romelmac stumarTmoyvareobis ga-

mo vaJi dakarga, daisaja imitom, rom keTili saqme ara

RmrTismoSiSebiT, aramed episkoposis dakninebis mizniT

gaakeTa. arseboben adamianebi, romlebic cdiloben keTi-

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li saqme mxolod imitom gaakeTon, rom sxvebis sikeTe

daknindes: maT axarebT ara sikeTis keTeba, aramed Tavi-

anTi saTnoebiT sxvisi damcireba. amitom, vfiqrob, rom

adamiani, romelmac arawmida suls gauwia maspinZloba,

ufro metad ampartavnebiT iyo aRZruli, vidre _ sike-

Tis qmnis surviliT; mas surda yvelas gaego, rom is

saTnoebiT episkoposs aRemata, rom man Seiwynara is,

vinc RmrTis saTno fortunatem gaaZeva.

petre: sworad msjelob. Sedegi cxadyofs, rom sa-

fuZvlad am saqmes arawminda gulissityva edo.

grigoli: erTxel amgvari ram moxda: erTma adamianma

TvalisCinis dakargvis gamo wmindans mimarTa da miiRo

kidec Sewevna. rogorc ki RmrTis kacma locva aRavlina

da Tvalebze jvari gamosaxa, wyvdiadi mis TvalTagan ma-

Sinve gaifanta da mxedveloba aRudga. erTi meomris

cxeni gaSmagda ise, rom ramdenime adamiani Zlivs akaveb-

da da vinc miuaxlovdeboda, sastikad kbenda. bolos

Sekres igi da wmida fortunates mihgvares. rogorc ki

mas wmindanma jvari gadasaxa, misi siSmage sadRac gaqra

da cxeni imaze ufro Tvinieri gaxda, vidre gaSmagebamde

iyo. meomarma cxenis saswaulebrivi gankurneba rom ixi-

la, gadawyvita is wmindanisTvis eCuqebina. wmindanma ua-

ri Tqva saCuqris miRebaze, magram radgan meomari daJi-

nebiT sTxovda ar ugulvebeleyo misi saCuqari, wmindan-

ma or ukiduresobas Soris Sualeduri amoirCia. man Se-

iwynara meomris Txovna, magram iqamde ar daTanxmda

cxenis miRebaze, vidre misi safasuri ar gadaixada.

wmindans ar undoda Semomwirvelis uariT Seuracxyofa

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da siyvaruliT aRZrulma iyida misgan is, rac srule-

biT ar sWirdeboda.

ar SemiZlia ar giambo is, rac am wmindanis Sesaxeb

Sevityve Tormetiode dRis win. CemTan erTi Raribi mo-

xuci movida. radgan gansakuTrebiT miyvars saubari mo-

xucebTan, sadauroba vkiTxe da Sevityve, rom qalaq tu-

dertidan iyo. `miTxari, xom ar icnobdi episkopos

fortunates?~ _ davekiTxe. `vicnobdi da Tan Zalian

kargad~, _ mipasuxa moxucma. `miTxari, geTayva, _ gan-

vagrZobdi me, _ xom ar ici mis mier aRsrulebuli rai-

me saswauli da aRmiwere es wmida kaci~. `is ar iyo Cve-

ulebrivi adamiani, _ miTxra moxucma, _ rasac sTxovda

yovlisSemZle RmerTs, yovelTvis usruldeboda. mxo-

lod erT saswauls giambob, rac amwuTas momagonda. er-

Txel ravenaSi mimavalma guTebma qalaq tudertSi gaia-

res da qalaqis axlos mdebare soflidan ori biWuna ga-

itaces. rogorc ki amis Sesaxeb wmida fortunates am-

cnes, man dauyovnebliv uxmo guTebs. wmindanma mSvidad

daiwyo maTTan saubari da cdilobda maTi sificxe aler-

siT daecxro. Semdeg daekiTxa: `ras isurvebT gamosas-

yidad im ori biWunas sanacvlod? me gamosasyids mog-

cemT, xolo Tqven, Cemdami keTilganwyobis niSnad, da-

mibruneT yrmebi~. amaze guTma, romelic pirvelobda

danarCenebs Soris, upasuxa: `gvTxove rac ginda, mzad

varT SegisruloT Txovna, magram am biWebs aranairi ga-

mosasyidis fasad ar dagibrunebT~. wmindani mSvidad da-

emuqra: `amaod aurveb mamas, Svilo Cemo, nu damamwux-

reb, raTa usiamovno araferi SegemTxves~. magram guTma,

gulqvaobis gamo, uari uTxra wmindans da wavida. meore

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dRes, gamgzavrebis win, igive guTi kvlav mivida wmindan-

Tan da man kvlav gaumeora Txovna, daebrunebina yrmebi.

guTma isev iuara. `icode, gzaSi ubedureba SegemTxveva,

radgan damamwuxre~, _ uTxra ukmayofilod wmindanma.

guTma es sityvebic uyuradRebod datova, dabrunda sax-

lSi, sadac gaCerebuli iyo, biWunebi cxenze Sesva da am-

xanagebTan erTad gaamgzavra, TviTon ki cxeniT ukan gah-

yva. rodesac wmida pavles taZris siaxloves Caiara,

misma cxenma waiborZika, mxedari Camovarda da fexi moi-

texa. is aiyvanes da ukan daabrunes. man maSinve gagzavna

kaci yrmebis dasabruneblad da wmida fortunates

sTxova Tavisi msaxuri gamoegzavna. rodesac msaxuri

movida, sneulma, romelic adre uars acxadebda yrmebis

dabrunebaze, myisve gadasca isini msaxurs sityvebiT:

`wadi da uTxari Cems baton episkoposs: Sen ar akurTxe

igi da aha, daSavda; daibrune yrmebi, romelTac iTxovdi

da Seewie mas~. msaxurma dauyovnebliv mihgvara episko-

poss yrmebi. netarma fortunatem mas nakurTxi wyali

misca, raTa sneulisTvis esxurebina. msaxuri dabrunda

guTTan da nakurTxi wyali apkura sxeulze. sakvirveli

da miuwvdomeli saqme aResrula! rogorc ki wyali

mtkivan adgilze esxura, sneuleba gaqra da Zvali Zve-

leburad gamTelda, ise, rom guTi myisve wamodga sare-

celidan da gza ganagrZo, TiTqos araferi mosvloda.

amgvarad, guTi, romelmac ar isurva wmindans damorCi-

leboda da yrmebi fulis sanacvlod daebrunebina, saR-

mrTo sasjelma aiZula daebrunebina isini gamosasyidis

gareSe~. garda am SemTxvevisa, moxucma wmida fortuna-

tes sxva saswaulebic miambo, magram radgan sulieri

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rCevis misaRebad melodnen da Zalian gvian iyo, mas did-

xans ver movusmendi, Tumca, roca SesaZlebloba maqvs,

mudam mzad var siamovnebiT vusmino monaTxrobs am wmin-

danis Sesaxeb.

sxva stumrobis dros, moxucma wmida fortunates mi-

er aRsrulebuli kidev ufro saocari saswauli miambo.

`qalaq tudertSi, _ miTxra man, _ or xorciel dasTan

erTad vinme markele cxovrobda, is patiosani kaci iyo.

markele avad iyo da aRdgomis win, SabaTs saRamos aRes-

rula. radgan sasaflao Sors iyo, is im dResve ver daa-

saflaves, magram rodesac dakrZalvis dro dadga, mar-

keles debi, danakargiT damwuxrebulni, wmida fortu-

natesTan mividnen da cremliTa da sulTqmiT Seeved-

rnen: `viciT, rom mociqulTa msgavs saswaulebs axden:

keTrovanT kurnav, brmebs TvalisCins ubruneb, _ modi

da aRadgine mkvdreTiT Cveni Zma~. wmindanma maTi Zmis

aRsrulebis Sesaxeb rom gaigo, atirda da debs uTxra:

`wadiT, da nu iTxovT amas; yovelive yovlisSemZle

RmerTis nebiT xdeba, misi winaaRdgoma aravis ZaluZs~.

isini wavidnen, magram episkoposi maTi Zmis sikvdilis

gamo kvlav damwuxrebuli iyo. momdevno dRes, kviras,

gaTenebamde, igi ori msaxuris TanxlebiT micvalebulis

saxlisken gaemarTa. rodesac miuaxlovda sarecels, sa-

dac usulo gvami esvena, RmrTis mimarT locva daiwyo.

locvis dasrulebis Semdeg micvalebulTan Camojda da

xmadabla mimarTa: `Zmao, markele!~ miuxedavad imisa,

rom Zalian xmadabla warmoTqva man es sityvebi, micva-

lebulma, TiTqos ZilSi Caesmao, Tvalebi gaaxila, epis-

koposs Sexeda da Tqva: `hoi, ra damemarTa, ra damemar-

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Ta!~ _ `ra dagemarTa?~ _ daekiTxa episkoposi. `guSin

CemTan orni movidnen da sxeulTan ganmaSores, erT

mSvenier adgilze wamiyvanes, dRes ki erT-erTi maTgani

isev movida CemTan da Tqva: `daabruneT isev iq, imitom,

rom episkoposi fortunate eaxla mas saxlSi~. es Tqva

da maSinve wamodga da amis Semdeg kidev didxans icoc-

xla. ar unda vifiqroT, rom man dakarga is netareba,

romelic pirveli sikvdilis Semdeg miiRo, radgan, Tu-

ki is pirvel sikvdilamde saTnoeyofoda yovlisSemZle

RmerTs, ueWvelia, wmindanis locvebiT gaZlierebuli,

kidev ufro meti saTnoebiT icxovrebda mkvdreTiT aR-

dgomis Semdeg. magram rad gvinda bevri laparaki wmida

fortunates RmrTis saTno cxovrebis Sesaxeb, rodesac

Tvalwin misi uxrwneli nawilebi gvaqvs? rogorc si-

cocxleSi gandevnida is eSmakebs, yovelgvari sneule-

bisgan kurnavda imaT, vinc rwmeniT mimarTavda, imaves

aRasrulebs sikvdilis Semdgom uxrwneli sxeuliT.

_ Tumca, sayvarelo petre, unda davasrulo im wmin-

danTa saswaulebis Sesaxeb Txroba, romlebic valeriis

olqSi cxovrobdnen, romelTa Sesaxebac momiTxrobda

zemoT naxsenebi Rirsi fortunate. is amJamadac xSirad

stumrobs CemTan, miambobs wmida moRvaweTa cxovrebebs

da mudam sixaruls maniWebs.

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Tavi meTerTmete

valeriis olqis mkvidri monazoni martiri

valeriis provinciaSi cxovrobda vinme martiri,

RmrTis saTno kaci, da ai, ra aRasrula man Tavisi siw-

mindis niSnad. erTxel masTan mcxovrebma Zmebma Rumel-

Si puri Seacxves da masze jvris gamosaxva daaviwydaT.

im mxareSi comze jvars gamosaxaven da amis gamo puri

TiTqos oTxad aris gayofili. wmindani iqve iyo da Se-

niSna, rom purze jvari ar gamousaxavT. rodesac puri

RumelSi moaTavses da naxSiriT da ferfliT dafares,

wmindanma ikiTxa: `ratom ar gamosaxeT jvari?~ da myis-

ve gadasaxa jvari comis mimarTulebiT. amis gamo purma

ise daitkacuna, TiTqos cecxlma Tixis WurWeli gaxeT-

qa. rodesac Rumelidan puri gamoiRes, masze jvari iyo

gamosaxuli, romelic gamoisaxa ara SexebiT, aramed _

rwmeniT.

Tavi meTormete

imave olqis presviteri severosi

imave olqSi aris interorinis xeoba, romelsac mda-

bioni interokrins uwodeben. masze aRmarTulia yov-

ladwmida da maradqalwul mariamis taZari. am taZarSi

presviterad iyo vinme severosi, romelic sakvirvel

cxovrebas eweoda. erTxel presviters sTxoves saswra-

fod moenaxulebina erTi saxli, sadac momakvdavi oja-

xis ufrosi iwva. is sTxovda mRvdels misuliyo, raTa

sindisi ganewminda misTvis sinanulis saidumloTi, Se-

vedreboda RmerTs misi codvebis gamo da mSvidi aRsas-

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ruli gamoeTxova. rodesac wargzavnilni mividnen,

presviteri baRSi xeebs sxlavda da mTxovnelT dahpir-

da, rom dauyovnebliv wavidoda, magram, radgan cotao-

deni saqme kidev hqonda darCenili, odnav Seyovnda, ra-

Ta dawyebuli saqme daesrulebina da Semdeg wavida sne-

ulTan. gzaSi masTan misuli adamianebi Semoxvdnen da

uTxres: `mamao, ratom daigviane? nuRar daSvrebi, avad-

myofi gardaicvala~. amis gagonebaze presviters Zlier

SeeSinda da sakuTar Tavs xmamaRla uwodebda avadmyo-

fis mkvlels. acremlebuli mivida micvalebulis sare-

celTan da sulTqmiT miwaze daemxo. rodesac is unuge-

Sod tiroda, Tavs miwas axlida da Tavs idanaSaulebda

avadmyofis sikvdilSi, uecrad micvalebulis suli sxe-

ulSi dabrunda. iq myofebma (isini mravlad iyvnen) amis

danaxvaze gakvirvebisgan Sehyvires da sixaruliT ufro

meti itires, vidre manamde damwuxrebulni tirodnen.

mkvdreTiT aRmdgars daekiTxnen: sad imyofeboda da ro-

gor daubrunda suli? `viRac samma, _ Tqva man, _ gamo-

iyvana Cemi suli da wamiyvanes; maTi nestoebidan da bage-

ebidan autaneli cecxli ifrqveoda. maT bneli adgilebi

momatares; am dros mSvenieri garegnobis Wabuki Semog-

vxvda, romelmac Cems mxleblebs mimarTa: `daabruneT

igi, imitom, rom mas cremliT iglovs presviteri seve-

rosi da RmerTma es suli mas mimadla am cremlebis-

Tvis~. severosma es rom moismina, wamodga, gacocxle-

buls sinanulis saidumlo ganumarta da RmerTs misTvis

evedreboda. gacocxlebuli kaci Svidi dRis ganmavlo-

baSi sinanuliT warxocda Cadenil codvebs, xolo merve

dRes sixaruliT miabara suli ufals. dafiqrdi, sayva-

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relo petre, rogori siyvaruliT Seismina ufalma

presviter severosis locva, rodesac misi mwuxared

datoveba ar isurva.

petre: WeSmaritad sakvirveli saqmea! aqamde msgavsi

araferi msmenia. amboben, rom amJamad ukve aRar arian

aseTi didi wmindanebi!

grigoli: vfiqrob, sayvarelo petre, isini amJamadac

mravlad arian. raki es moRvaweebi amgvar saswaulebs ar

aRasruleben, ar unda vifiqroT, rom isini wmindanebi

ar arian. cxovrebis Sesaxeb unda vimsjeloT ara gareg-

nuli niSnebiT, aramed _ Rvawlis xarisxis mixedviT.

mravalni Tumca saswaulebs ar aRasruleben, magram

saswaulTmoqmed mamebs arafriT Camouvardebian.

petre: miTxari, geTayva, rogor davrwmunde, rom

isini, vinc saswaulebs ar aRasruleben, arafriT Camou-

vardebian maT aRmasrulebelT.

grigoli: magaliTad, nuTu ar ici, rom mociqulebi

petre da pavle mociqulTa Tavni arian?

petre: vici da sruliad darwmunebuli var, rom,

Tumca pavle mociqulTa Soris umciress uwodebda

Tavs, magram man sxvebze umetesi iRvawa.

grigoli: moigone: petre wyalze dadioda (maT. 14, 29),

xolo pavles xomaldi daemsxvra zRvaSi (2 kor. 11, 25);

erTsa da imave stiqiasTan mimarTebaSi _ pavlem xomal-

diTac ki ver SeZlo curva, xolo petre wyalze ise da-

dioda, rogorc xmeleTze. gana cxadi ar aris: Tumca

saswaulTa aRsrulebaSi erTnairi Zala ar gamouvleni-

aT, maTi damsaxureba RmerTis winaSe erTnairia.

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petre: sruliad sakmarisia Seni ganmarteba. axla

cxadad vxedav, rom cxovrebas unda Sexedo, da ara _

saswaulebs, magram, radgan saswaulebi wmida cxovrebas

mowmobs, amitom gTxov, kidev miambo raime _ keTili ma-

galiTebiT gamozarde Cemi mSieri suli.

grigoli: Cveni gamomxsnelis sadideblad giambob

wmida benediqtes zogierTi saswaulis Sesaxeb. axla Ta-

visufali dro ara maqvs da amis Sesaxeb sxva dros visa-

ubroT.

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wig n i m eore

iyo erTi kaci, saxeliTa da madliT benediqte (rac

niSnavs kurTxeuls). igi Rirseulad cxovrobda da gu-

lis siwmindes siyrmidan icavda. zneobrivi siwmindiT

Tavis wlovanebas aRemata da guls araviTar vnebas ar

umonebda. es sofeli missave sacdurebTan erTad jer

kidev amqveynad myofma moiZula, rogorc uxorcom, Tum-

ca saSualeba hqonda Tavisuflad damtkbariyo amqveyni-

uri keTildReobiT. wmida benediqte didgvarovan mSo-

belTa Svili iyo nursiis olqidan, xolo romSi zogad

mecnierebaTa Sesaswavlad iyo mibarebuli. rodesac

mixvda, rom mecnierebaTa SeswavliT mravalni cdunde-

bian, maSinve wamovida saswavleblidan, raTa swavlis

Semdeg TviTonac ufskrulSi ar danTqmuliyo. amgvarad,

miatova mecnierebaTa Seswavla, mSobelTa saxli da mem-

kvidreobac datova, mxolod RmerTis samsaxuri isurva

da TavSesafars savaneebSi eZiebda. Tumca mas mecniere-

bebi ar Seuswavlia, magram uswavleli brZeni iyo. zed-

miwevniT ar vici misi cxovreba, is mciredi ki, rasac

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giambob, misi oTxi mowafisgan Sevityve. eseni arian: kon-

stantine, Rirseuli moRvawe, romelic monastris mar-

Tvis saqmeSi misi memkvidre gaxda; valentiniane, is mra-

vali wlis manZilze lateranis monasters winamZRvrob-

da; simpliciosi, benediqtes Semdeg rigiT mesame winam-

ZRvari mis zogadcxovrebulTa monasterSi; da honora-

ti, romelic amJamadac winamZRvaria imave monasterSi,

uwin ki Zmebs Soris iyo.

Tavi pirveli

saswauli, romelic wmida benediqtem gatexil sa-

cerze aRasrula

rodesac benediqtem mecnierebaTa Seswavla miatova,

gadawyvita udabnoSi ganmartoebuliyo. mas Tan gahyva

aRmzrdeli, romelsac igi Zlier uyvarda. is damkvid-

rda adgilze, romelsac hqvia enfide, da mravali cno-

bili moRvawe, romelnic sulis gadarCenas gulmodgi-

ned eswrafodnen, masTan erTad dasaxlda, netari moci-

qulis, petres taZarTan. erTxel xsenebulma aR-

mzrdelma maxloblad mcxovreb dedakacebs saceri

sTxova da magidaze daudevrad dado, ris gamoc is gad-

movarda da Suaze gatyda. saxlSi dabrunebuli aR-

mzrdeli, saceri gatexili rom daxvda, mwared atirda.

RmrTis moyvare da moSiS benediqtes atirebuli aR-

mzrdeli Seecoda, saceris nawilebi erTmaneTs miado

da cremliT locva daiwyo. locvis dasrulebis Semdeg

saceri ise gamTelda, rom bzaric arsad emCneoda. man

aRmzrdeli alersiani sityvebiT daamSvida da gamTele-

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buli saceri daubruna. am saswaulis ambavi mTel im mxa-

res moedo da iq mcxovrebni imdenad gaakvirva, rom sa-

ceri eklesiis SesasvlelSi dakides, raTa SemsvlelT

da gamomsvlelT scodnodaT, ra didi madli moixveWa

monasterSi myofma yrma benediqtem. saceri mravali

wlis manZilze yvelas Tvalwin iyo da TviT Cvens drom-

de, longobardebis Semosevamde taZris karTan ekida.

magram benediqtem moisurva daeTmina amqveyniuri Wiri,

vidre qeba esmina da amjobina uflisTvis SromiT moqan-

cva, vidre adamianTa keTilganwyobiT Tavis mowoneba. is

farulad gaeqca aRmzrdels da Sinagan udabnoSi ganmar-

toebul adgilze daemkvidra, romelsac hqvia subiako

da romisgan ormoci miliT aris daSorebuli. iq uxvad

aris civi da ankara wyaroebi. wyali farTo tbidan ga-

moedineba. rodesac benediqte gaiqca, gzaSi erTi mona-

zoni, saxelad romanozi Sexvda. man gamohkiTxa saiT mi-

dioda da misi survili rom Seityo, ara marto misi sai-

dumlo dafara, Seewia kidec _ samonazvno samoseli

misca da Semdeg yovelive aucilebels awvdida. RmrTis

kaci yvelaze viwro mRvimeSi daeyuda da sami wlis man-

Zilze, romanozis garda, aravin icoda misi adgilsamyo-

feli. romanozi mRvimis siaxloves mdebare monasterSi

cxovrobda, romelsac adeodati marTavda. igi winam-

ZRvrisgan farulad benediqtes Tavisi kuTvnili puris

nawils awvdida. mRvime maRal kldeze mdebareobda da

radgan monastridan misasvleli gza ar iyo, romanozi

purs kldidan gadmoSvebul grZel sabelze amagrebda.

sabelze pawawina zaric iyo damagrebuli, romlis xma

RmrTis kacs amcnobda, rodesac romanozi purs moitan-

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da. benediqte zaris xmaze mRvimidan gamodioda da purs

iRebda. erTxel kacTa modgmis uZvelesma mterma, erTis

siyvarulisa da meoris nugeSis mimarT SuriT aRvsilma,

sabels qva esrola, rodesac masze puri iyo mimagrebu-

li da gawyvita. romanozs arc amis Semdeg miutovebia

benediqte da emsaxureboda mas, rogorc SeeZlo, magram

male yovlisSemZle RmerTma ineba romanozs am Rvawlis-

gan Seesvena da benediqtes cxovrebiT ganeswavla adamia-

nebi, raTa kelaptars yvelasTvis gaenaTebina, vinc

RmrTis saxlSi imyofeba. erT presviters, romelic im

adgilidan moSorebiT cxovrobda da saaRdgomod saW-

mels imzadebda, CvenebaSi RmerTi gamoecxada da uTxra:

`SenTvis nugeSs imzadeb, Cemi mona ki ama da am adgilze

SimSiliT kvdeba~. presviteri myisve adga da qristes

aRdgomis brwyinvale dRes TavisTvis momzadebuli saW-

mliT im adgilisken gaeSura: gadaiara kldovani mTebi,

maRali gorakebi, ufskrulebi da bolos mRvimeSi dayu-

debul RmrTis kacs miagno. locvis dasrulebis Semdeg

isini Camosxdnen da akurTxevdnen yovlisSemZle

RmerTs. damatkbobeli saubris Semdeg mosulma presvi-

terma Tqva: `miviRoT sazrdeli, radgan dRes aRdgo-

maa~. wmida mamam miugo: `WeSmaritad _ aRdgomaa, imi-

tom, rom Rirsi Seviqeni Seni xilvisa~. adamianTagan mo-

SorebiT myofma benediqtem ar icoda, rom am dRes aR-

dgoma iyo; magram Rirsma presviterma kvlav daamowma

sityvebiT: `WeSmaritad, dRes qristes brwyinvale aR-

dgomaa; marxva ar egebis, swored imisTvis var warmog-

zavnili, rom erTad miviRoT yovlisSemZle RmerTis mi-

er boZebuli~. amgvarad, akurTxevdnen RmerTs da miiRes

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sazrdeli, xolo rodesac guli ijeres saubriTa da

sazrdeliT, presviteri Tavis eklesiaSi dabrunda.

imave xanebSi mRvimeSi Sefaruli benediqte mwyemsebma

aRmoaCines. Tavidan, buCqnarSi rom SeniSnes tyaviT Se-

mosili, cxoveli egonaT, magram rodesac masSi RmrTis

msaxuri Seicnes, TavianTi mxecuri zraxvebi misadmi Ta-

nalmobiT Secvales. amgvarad, misi saxeli cnobili gax-

da. im droidan mravalni midiodnen mis sanaxavad, mih-

qondaT xorcieli sazrdo da mis bageTagan sulis mac-

xovnebel sazrdels iRebdnen.

Tavi meore

Zleuli xorcieli aRZvris Sesaxeb

erTxel, rodesac wmida benediqte ganmartoebiT im-

yofeboda, macduri miuxda: saxis win patara Savi Citi

ufrenda, romelsac xalxSi SaSvs eZaxian, da imdenad

axlos trialebda mis win, wmida mamas rom moesurvebi-

na, xeliT daWerasac SeZlebda, magram man jvari gamoi-

saxa da Citi gauCinarda. misi gauCinarebis Semdeg wmida

mamas xorcis imgvari brZola daatyda, rogoric araso-

des ugrZvnia. uecrad qali dainaxa, romelic avma sulma

misi gonebis Tvals warmousaxa. mis danaxvaze RmrTis

monas guli iseTi cecxliT aenTo, rom vnebis ali gulSi

veRar daetia da vnebiT gatacebulma TiTqmis gadawyvita

udabno daetovebina. magram, saRmrTo madliT, swrafad

miapyro TvalTa xedva sakuTar Tavs da masSi aRmoaCina

vnebis marcvali, gaixada samosi, fiWvis wiwvebsa da Win-

Warze SiSveli dawva da didxans iwva ase. mxolod mas

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Semdeg adga, rodesac mTeli sxeuli daesera. sxeulis

dawylulebiT man grZnobismieri kveTebani ganaqarva,

radgan avxorcobis vneba moauZlura: amgvari sasjeliT

garegani anTeba gamoiwvia da aRmofxvra is, rac SigniT

iwvoda. amgvarad daZlia codva, radgan als adgili Se-

ucvala. im droidan, rogorc Tavad uambobda mowafeebs,

xorcis aRZvra masSi imdenad daiTrguna, rom msgavsi

aRaraferi ugrZvnia. maSin mravalT datoves es sofeli

da misi xelmZRvanelobiT moRvaweobas eswrafodnen. be-

nediqte, biwieri aRZvrisagan Tavisufali, Rirseulad

gaxda saTnoebebSi sxvaTa ganmswavleli. amitom brZana

mosem (ricx. 8, 24-26), rom levitelni ocdaxuTi wlis

asakidan Sedgomodnen msaxurebas da mxolod ormocdaa-

Ti wlisani gamxdariyvnen samRvdelo WurWlis mcvelni.

petre: gamoTqmuli azri nawilobriv cxadia, magram

gTxov, ufro cxadad ganmimarto.

grigoli: cnobilia, rom siWabukeSi xorcieli brZo-

la mZafria, xolo ormocdaaTi wlis Semdeg sxeulis

mxurvaleba cxreba; wmida WurWeli morwmuneTa gonebaa.

rCeulni, rodesac jer kidev brZolaSi arian, aucile-

belia, sxvas eqvemdebarebodnen da iSromon, morCilebi-

Ta da RvawliT daiqancon; rodesac asakSi brZolis si-

ficxe sustdeba, isini WurWlis mcvelni _ sulTa gan-

mswavlelni xdebian.

petre: vaRiareb, momwons Seni msjeloba; radgan mo-

tanili azri ukve ganmimarte, gTxov, marTlis cxovre-

bis Sesaxeb dawyebuli saubari ganagrZo.

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Tavi mesame

minis WurWeli, romelic jvris gamosaxviT daim-

sxvra

grigoli: sacduris damarcxebis Semdeg RmrTis kac-

ma, damuSavebuli miwis msgavsad, romelzec sarevelas

amoZirkvaven, uxvad inayofiera da saTnoebani moimko.

misi saxeli ganiTqva da uCveulo monazvnuri Rvawlis

meoxebiT gandidda. Soriaxlos monasteri iyo, romlis

winamZRvari aResrula. iq darCenili Zmebi Rirs bene-

diqtesTan mividnen da gulmodgined evedrebodnen maTi

winamZRvari gamxdariyo. is didxans ar Tanxmdeboda, ux-

snida, rom Tavisi wesebiT mTel saZmos ver aamebda, mag-

ram maTi TxovniT Zleuli, daTanxmda. rodesac monas-

terSi mkacri ganweseba SemoiRo da uflebas aravis aZ-

levda TviTneburi qceviT monazvnobis gzidan marcxniv

an marjvniv gadaexvia (rac xdeboda manamde), maSin ugu-

nurebiT gaficxebulma Zmebma jer erTmaneTs dauwyes

gakicxva imisTvis, rom aseTi mkacri winamZRvari moix-

mes, radgan maTi Tavisufali cxovrebis wesi mis wmida

ganawess ar eTanxmeboda; Semdeg, rodesac naxes, rom is

maT Tavisuflebas ar mianiWebda, xolo Cveulebebis

daTmoba da damyayebuli gonebis axal sagnebze mipyroba

eZnelebodaT, ramdenime maTganma gadawyvita mis sicoc-

xleze xeli aRemarTaT _ moiTaTbires da RvinoSi Sxami

Seuries. ai, ra mZimea saTno cxovreba im adamianebis-

Tvis, visac zne wamxdari aqvs! samonastro Cveulebis Ta-

naxmad, locva-kurTxevisTvis winamZRvars minis WurWe-

li miarTves, romelSic es momakvdinebeli sasmeli esxa.

wmida benediqtem jvari gadasaxa da WurWeli, romel-

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sac didi xnis ganmavlobaSi iyenebdnen, ise daibzara,

TiTqos wmida mamas masSi qva Caegdos. radgan WurWelma

cxovrebis niSis gamosaxvas ver gauZlo, RmrTis kaci

myisve mixvda, rom masSi momakvdinebeli sasmeli iyo.

igi maSinve wamodga da Sekrebil Zmebs mxiaruli saxiT,

guldamSvidebulma mimarTa: `Zmebo, yovlisSemZle

RmerTma SegiwyaloT! risTvis moisurveT CemTvis amis

gakeTeba? gana uwin ar giTxariT, rom Cemi Cveulebani

Tqvensas ara hgavs? wadiT da Tqveni znis Sesaferi winam-

ZRvari moiZieT, radgan amis Semdeg Tqveni winamZRvari

veRar viqnebi~. wmindani Tavis sayvarel udabur adgils

daubrunda da daiwyo cxovreba ganmartoebiT, sakuTar

TavSi, yovlismxilveli RmerTis TvalTa winaSe.

petre: kargad ver vxvdebi, ras niSnavs `daiwyo

cxovreba sakuTar TavSi~.

grigoli: wmida mosagres im adamianTa marTva moma-

valSic rom moesurvebina, romlebmac erTsulovnad Se-

iZules da misi cxovrebis wess sruliad ar eTanxmebod-

nen, SesaZloa mas mxneoba da simSvide daekarga da saku-

Tari Tavis Wvretas mokleboda. Semdeg imaTi gamouswo-

reblobiT daqanculi, sakuTar Tavze naklebad izruneb-

da da albaT masac dakargavda da verc imaT SeiZenda. yo-

velTvis, gonebis Zlieri daZabulobis Semdeg Cven Cveni

Tavidan gareT gavdivarT, igiveni vrCebiT, magram saku-

Tar TavSi aRar vimyofebiT. raki sakuTar Tavs ver vxe-

davT, gonebiT gareSe sagnebs Soris mimovalT. Cven ar

vambobT, rom sakuTar TavSi iyo is adamiani, romelic

wavida Sorsa sofelsa, mTeli qoneba gaflanga, Semdeg

mojamagired daudga im qveynis moqalaqes, Rorebs um-

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wyemsavda, uyurebda, rogor Wamdnen isini, TviTon ki

SimSiliT kvdeboda. imis Semdeg, rodesac dakargul si-

keTeze dafiqrda, masze weria: `moego raÁ Tavsa TÂssa,

Tqua: raodenTa sasyidliT-dadginebulTa mamisa Cemisa-

Ta hmats puri~ (luk. 15, 17). Tavis TavTan rom yofili-

yo, maSin rogor moegeboda `Tavsa Tvissa~? ai, ra azriT

vTqvi am friad Rirseul moRvaweze (benediqteze), rom

daiwyo cxovreba sakuTar TavSi. mouklebelad icavda

Tavs da mudam uflis TvalTa winaSe vidoda, mudam ga-

moscdida Tavs, ukve aRarsad miaqcevda gonebis Tvals.

petre: ras niSnavs is, rac wmida mociqul petres Se-

saxeb aris dawerili, rodesac angelozma gamoiyvana

sapyrobilidan: `petre moego gonebasa TÂssa da Tqua: aw

uwyi WeSmaritad, rameTu moavlina RmerTman angelozi

TÂsi da ganmarina me xelTagan herodesTa da yovlisagan

molodebisa erisa mis huriaTasa~ (saqme 12, 11)?

grigoli: sayvarelo petre, Cveni Tavis gareT orgva-

rad gavdivarT: an dacemuli gulissityviT Cvens Tavze

ufro dabla veSvebiT, an Wvretis dros gardamosuli

madliT Cvens Tavze zemoT vmaRldebiT. is adamiani, ro-

melic Rorebs mwyemsavda, gonebis gareT ganvardniTa da

uwminduri cxovrebiT Tavis Tavze qveviT iyo daSvebu-

li; xolo angelozis mier gamoyvanili da gonebiT aRta-

cebuli, gonebiT gareT ki iyo gasuli, magram Tavis Tav-

ze zeviT iyo amaRlebuli. isini oriveni gons moegnen,

rodesac erTSi, codvebis Cadenis Semdeg, sindisi amet-

yvelda, xolo meore _ Wvretis simaRlidan Cveul

mdgomareobaSi dabrunda. amgvarad, Rirsma benediqtem

udabnoSi sakuTar TavSi cxovreba daiwyo, radgan Tavs

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Rrma gansjiT icavda, magram yovelTvis, rodesac Wvre-

tis siyvaruls simaRleze ahyavda, is ueWvelia, Tavisi

Tavis gareT iyo.

petre: es asea, magram miTxari, geTayva, nuTu SeiZle-

boda Zmebis mitoveba, romelTa winamZRvroba Tavis Tav-

ze aiRo?

grigoli: me mgonia, sayvarelo petre, rom borot

adamianTa erToblivi Semoteva keTilgonivrulad iq un-

da aitano, sadac ramdenime keTili adamiani mainc aris

da Segewevian, xolo sadac keTil nayofs ar eli, iq

zogjer zedmetia borotTaTvis gaweuli Zalisxmeva,

gansakuTrebiT, Tu iseTi garemoebani arsebobs, romle-

bic Segeweva umjobesi nayofi Seswiro RmerTs. amgva-

rad, wmida mosagres visze unda ezruna, rodesac Seit-

yo, rom yvelani erTsulovnad sdevnidnen? srulyofili

moRvaweebi amgvarad xSirad iqcevian. rodesac xedaven,

rom maTi Sroma unayofoa, sxva adgilze gadadian, sadac

imedovneben nayofierad iRvawon. amitom im saxelovanma

mosagrem (mociqulma pavlem), romelsac guli uTqumida

ganslvad da qristes Tana yofad, romlisTvisac `cxo-

reba qriste ars, da sikudili _ SesaZinel~ (filip. 1,

23, 21), romelic ara mxolod Tavad eZebda tanjvas,

aramed sxvebsac aRZravda, rom daeTminaT is, _ TviT man,

damaskoSi devnisgan Tavi rom daeRwia, kedliT, sabliTa

da godriT isargebla (saqme 9, 23-25) da farulad was-

vla gadawyvita. nuTu mociqul pavles sikvdilis eSino-

da, rodesac iesos siyvarulis gamo, rogorc TviTon

amowmebs, sikvdili swyuroda (2 kor. 11, 22)? ara! ara-

med, rodesac ixila, rom im adgilze didi Sroma unda

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gaewia da nayofi mcire iqneboda, sxva adgilze nayofie-

ri SromisaTvis Tavi gadairCina. rogorc RmerTis mxne

mebrZolma, patimrobaSi darCena ar isurva da wavida,

rom brZolis veli moenaxa. amgvarad, Tuki yuradRebiT

ismendi, albaT mixvdi, rom Rirsma benediqtem ara imde-

nad aq datova ganuswavlelad Zmebi, ramdenadac sxva ad-

gilebSi aRadgina Zmebi sulieri sikvdilisgan.

petre: marTals brZaneb da Sens sityvebs moyvanili

magaliTic adasturebs. ganagrZe Txroba wmida mamis Se-

saxeb.

grigoli: im dros, rodesac wmindani mouklebelad

izrdeboda saTnoebebsa da saswaulTa aRsrulebaSi, mis

udabnoSi mravalni Seikribnen yovlisSemZle RmerTis

samsaxurisTvis. benediqtem, yovlisSemZle ufal ieso

qristes SewevniT, Tormeti monasteri aago, TiToeulSi

Tormeti monazoni daasaxla da winamZRvrebi daudgina.

TavisTan ki ramdenime monazoni datova, romelTaTvis

umjobesad miaCnda misi TandaswrebiT aRzrdiliyvnen.

maSin masTan TviT didebulebma da romaelma warCinebu-

lebma daiwyes mosvla da Svilebs utovebdnen, raTa mas

RmrTismoSiSebiT aRezarda isini. mas TavianTi Svilebi

miabares: ekvicim _ mavri, da patricma tertulim _

plakidi, romlebic friad keTilsaimedoni iyvnen. maT

Soris umcrosi _ mavri _ winamZRvris TanaSemwe gaxda,

radganac keTili zniT gamoirCeoda, xolo plakidi _

ficxel moRvaweobas jer kidev sruliad yrma Seudga.

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Tavi meoTxe

gonebagafantuli monazoni, romelic cxonebis gzas

daubrunda

wmida benediqtes mier agebuli monastrebidan erT-

erTSi, romelic Tavisi monastris siaxloves aago, iyo

erTi monazoni, romelsac locvaze dgoma ar SeeZlo.

rogorc ki Zmebi locvas Seudgebodnen, is gareT gadio-

da da gonebagafantuli raime miwiers da amaos akeTebda.

winamZRvari xSirad arigebda da verafers rom ver gax-

da, RmrTis kacs mihgvara, romelmac aseve mkacrad amxi-

la is ugunurebisaTvis, magram monasterSi dabrunebis

Semdeg monazoni RmrTis kacis swavlebas mxolod ori

dRe morCilebda, mesame dRes ki kvlav Zvel Cveulebas

daubrunda, locvis dros aqeT-iqiT daexeteboda. rode-

sac monastris winamZRvarma wmida mamas amis Sesaxeb mo-

axsena, man Tqva: `moval da Tavad gamovasworeb mas~. be-

nediqte mivida monasterSi. daniSnul dros Zmebma

fsalmuni igalobes da locva daiwyes. wmida kacma maSin-

ve dainaxa, rom monazons, romelsac locvaze dgoma ar

SeeZlo, Savi yrma tansacmlis kidiT eweoda. maSin man

monastris winamZRvars, saxelad pompeanes da RmrTis

msaxur mavrs Cumad uTxra: `nuTu ver xedavT, vis gah-

yavs es monazoni gareT?~ _ `ver vxedavT~, _ miuges maT.

`vilocoT, _ Tqva man, _ rom Tqvenc dainaxoT, vis mih-

yveba is~. ori dRis locvis Semdeg monazonma mavrma da-

inaxa, xolo monastris winamZRvarma pompeanem ver SeZ-

lo xilva. momdevno dRes, locvis dasrulebis Semdeg,

RmrTis kacma moZebna monazoni, romelic krebulisgan

gancalkevebiT idga da gulis sibrmavis gamo wkepla

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uTavaza. im dRidan monazons Savi yrmisgan araviTari

brZola aRar SeugrZvnia, uZravad idga locvaze. amgva-

rad, uZvelesma mterma ver SeZlo daufleboda mis gone-

bas da TiTqosda TviTon damarcxda wkepliT.

Tavi mexuTe

wmida benediqtes locviT mTis mwvervalze, kldeSi

aRmocenebuli wyaro

wmida benediqtes mier agebul monasterTagan sami

mTebis mwvervalebze mdebareobda da Zmebs Zalian uWir-

daT yoveldRiurad wylisTvis tbaze siaruli. gansa-

kuTrebiT Zneli da saSiSi iyo cicabo kldeze Camosvla.

amitom samive monastris Zmebi erTad mividnen RmrTis

mona benediqtesTan da uTxres: `gviZneldeba yoveldRi-

urad tbaze Camosvla wylis asavsebad; monastrebi am ad-

gilebidan gadaitane~. man anugeSa isini, gauSva da imave

RamiT yrma plakidisTan erTad, romelic ukve vaxseneT,

mTis wverze avida da didxans iloca. locvis dasrule-

bis Semdeg adgili moniSna sami qviT da monasterSi iseve

uCumrad dabrunda. meore dRes Zmebi isev mividnen mas-

Tan imave TxovniT, man ki uTxra: `wadiT da amotexeT is

klde, romelzec sam, erTmaneTze dadebul qvas naxavT:

yovlisSemZle RmerTs ZaluZs, rom am mwvervalzec aR-

moacenos wyali, raTa gixsnaT aseT rTul gzaze siaru-

lisagan~. isini miTiTebul kldeze avidnen _ iq ukve

amosuliyo wyali. rodesac sagubari amoWres, is maSinve

aivso wyliT, romelic uxvad moedineboda da amJamadac

mTis mwvervalidan did nakadad moedineba.

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Tavi meeqvse

celi, romelic wylis siRrmidan tars daubrunda

sxva dros erTi suliT glaxaki (anu simdabliT Semo-

sili) guTi movida monasterSi sacxovreblad. benediq-

tem is siyvaruliT miiRo. erTxel mas daavales celiT

ekal-bardebisgan tbis napirze adgili gaewminda, sadac

bostani unda gaeSenebinaT. guTma celi erT msxvil

ekals mTeli ZaliT dascxo; igi tars moZvra da tbaSi

Cavarda, is ki iseTi Rrma iyo, rom celis amoReba SeuZ-

lebeli iyo. guTi aRelvebuli mieWra mavrs, mouTxro

danakargis Sesaxeb da sinanuliT Tavs idanaSaulebda.

mavrma yovelive maSinve RmrTis mona benediqtes moaxse-

na. is tbis napirisken gaemarTa, guTs tari gamoarTva da

tbaSi CauSva. celi tbis fskeridan amotivtivda da

tars TavisiT Camoecva. RmrTis monam miawoda celi

guTs da uTxra: `imuSave da nu danaRvliandebi~.

Tavi meSvide

wmida benediqtes mowafe mavri, romelmac wyaldaw-

yal ise iara, rom TviTon ar icoda

erT dRes Rirsi benediqte senakSi imyofeboda, xolo

zemoT xsenebuli yrma plakidi tbaze wylis mosatanad

wavida. man WurWeli wyalSi mouxerxeblad CauSva da

TviTonac gadavarda. CavardnisTanave is dinebam napiri-

dan isris satyorcn manZilze waiRo. senakSi myofma be-

nediqtem maSinve Seicno es, dauyovnebliv mouxmo mavrs

da uTxra: `Zmao mavr, gaiqeci _ wyalze wasuli yrma

tbaSi Cavarda da dinebam ukve Sors waiRo~. sakvirveli,

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mociqul petres droidan arnaxuli ram moxda! mavrma

gamoiTxova da miiRo kidec locva-kurTxeva, winam-

ZRvris brZanebisamebr gaiqca da im adgilamde, sadac

yrma iyo, wyaldawyal miirbina. mas egona, rom miwaze mi-

dioda, CasWida mas xeli da ukan sirbiliTve dabrunda.

rodesac fexiT miwas Seexo, gons moego, ukan miixeda da

mixvda, rom wyalze mirboda. adre amaze ocnebac ar Se-

eZlo. igi momxdariT SeZrwunda. dabrunebisas winam-

ZRvars yovelive mouTxro. Rirsma benediqtem momxdari

miawera ara sakuTar damsaxurebas, aramed _ mis morCi-

lebas, xolo mavri, piriqiT, mxolod winamZRvris kur-

Txevas miawerda da ambobda, rom amgvari saswaulis mi-

zezi TviTon ar iyo, radgan sruliad gaucnobiereblad

aRasrula. am friad saamo kamaTis dros, romelic or-

mxrivi simdabliT iyo ganmsWvaluli, isini wylidan

amoyvanilma yrmam daazava. man Tqva: `rodesac wylidan

amomiyvanes, Cems Tavze winamZRvris xaleni da TviT is

davinaxe. wylidan man amomiyvana~.

petre: udidesi saqmeebis Sesaxeb momiTxrob, es mra-

valTaTvis iqneba ganmswavleli. rac Semexeba me, rac

ufro mets vigeb wmida mamis mier aRsrulebul saswau-

lebze, miT metis Setyobis survili maqvs.

Tavi merve

rogor waiRo yvavma Sxamiani puri

male is adgilebi xalxiT aivso, romlebic Cveni uf-

lis, ieso qristes mimarT siyvaruliT iyvnen anTebul-

ni: mravalni saero cxovrebas tovebdnen da gulis qeds

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macxovris msubuq tvirTs udrekdnen. mankier adamianebs

ar surT saTnoebis sikeTe da is sxvebSic sZulT. amave

mizeziT mezoblad mdebare eklesiis presviterma flo-

rencim, Cveni ipodiakvnis, florencis papam, romelic

uZvelesi mtris borotebiT iqna aRZruli, wmida mamis

Rvawlis mibaZva daiwyo, akninebda mis namoqmedars da

amiT misi naxvis msurvelTa dabrkolebas cdilobda.

rodesac florencim naxa, rom benediqtes warmatebas

win ver aRudgeboda, misma monasterma saxeli gaiTqva da

misi didebis meoxebiT bevrma gamoaswora cxovreba, ki-

dev ufro meti siZulviliT aenTo da gaborotda, rad-

gan surda mas mieRo qeba, romelsac wmida mosagres

aRuvlendnen, magram saqebari cxovreba ar surda. Tavi-

sive siZulvilis wyvdiadiT dabrmavebuli iqamde mivida,

rom yovlisSemZle RmrTis monas, viTomcda kurTxevis-

Tvis, Sxamnarevi puri gaugzavna. RmrTis kacma igi mad-

lobiT miiRo, magram purSi dafaruli Sxami misgan ar

daifara. sadilobis dros masTan mezobeli tyidan yvavi

mofrinavda da misi xelidan iRebda purs. rodesac yvavi

Cveulebisamebr mofrinda, RmrTis kacma presviteris

gamogzavnili puri daudo da ubrZana: `saxeliTa ufli-

sa Cvenisa ieso qristesiTa, aiRe es puri da iseT adgi-

las waiRe, sadac adamiani ver naxavs~. yvavma niskarti

gaaRo, frTebi gaSala, mis Tavze frenda aqeT-iqiT, Cxa-

oda da TiTqos cxadad ambobda, rom surs daemorCilos,

magram brZanebis Sesruleba ar SeuZlia. RmrTis kaci

kvlav da kvlav umeorebda: `aiRe, nu geSinia, waiRe da

iq gadaagde, sadac veravin ipovis~. dayovnebis Semdeg

yvavma puri aiRo, gafrinda da brZanebisamebr gadaagdo.

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sami saaTis Semdeg is dabrunda da RmrTis kacis xeli-

dan Cveuli puris natexi miiRo. Rirsma presviteris Ca-

nafiqri rom Seicno, is ufro metad Seecoda, vidre sa-

kuTari Tavi. florencim moZRvris mokvla rom ver SeZ-

lo, misi mowafeebis sulis warwymeda gadawyvita: im mo-

nastris baRSi, sadac benediqte cxovrobda, Svidi SiS-

veli qali gagzavna, raTa maT mowafeTa Tvalwin xelCa-

kidebulT ecekvaT da maTSi boroti gulisTqmebi aReZ-

raT. benediqtem isini Tavisi senakidan dainaxa da yrma

mowafeebis dacemis SeeSinda. radgan amas mxolod misad-

mi mtrobad Tvlida, dauTmo siZulvils, moawesriga mis

mier agebuli monastrebi, Zmebs winamZRvrebi daudgina,

xolo TviTon ramdenime monazonTan erTad sxva adgilze

gadavida. rogorc ki RmrTis kaci mdablad ganerida

presviteris siZulvils, yovlisSemZle RmerTma sasti-

kad dasaja es ukanaskneli. is saTburSi idga, rodesac

Seityo benediqtes wasvlis Sesaxeb da Tavisi gamarjve-

biT Zalian gaixara. am dros saTburi Caiqca (saxli ki

uvneblad idga) da benediqtes mteri qveS moiyola.

RmrTis kacis mowafe mavrma amis Sesaxeb maSinve acnoba

Rirs benediqtes: `dabrundi, _ Seni mdevneli presvite-

ri daiRupa~. RmrTis kaci benediqte mwared atirda ro-

gorc mtris daRupvis gamo, aseve imisTvis, rom mtris

sikvdilma misi mowafe gaaxara. mas sinanulis kanoni ga-

nuwesa.

petre: sakvirvel ambebs momiTxrob. kldidan wylis

aRmoceneba magonebs moses (ricx. 20. 7-11); wylis siR-

rmidan amotitvtivebuli celi _ elises (4 mef. 6, 5-7);

wyalze svla _ petres (maT. 14, 29); yvavis morCileba _

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ilias (3 mef. 17, 6); mtris sikvdilis datireba _ da-

viTs (2 mef. 1, 11; 18, 33). rogorc Cans, es moRvawe mar-

TalTa suliT iyo aRvsili.

grigoli: benediqte saRmrTo suliT iyo Semosili,

romelic aRsrulebuli gamoxsnis saidumlos madliT

yoveli rCeulis guls avsebs. masze ambobs ioane: `iyo

naTeli WeSmariti, romeli gananaTlebs yovelsa kacsa,

momavalsa soflad~ (ioan. 1, 9). maszevea dawerili:

`savsebisagan misisa Cuen yovelTa moviReT~ (ioan. 1, 16).

RmrTis kacni Zalas RmerTisgan iRebdnen, magram misi

sxvisTvis gadacema ar SeeZloT. mxolod iman mianiWa Ta-

vis erTgul mowafeebs Zala, vinc aRuTqva maT, rom Tavs

miscemda mtrebs ionas niSnis mixedviT (maT. 12, 39), ro-

desac ampartavnebs Tavisi sikvdili uCvena, Rirsi gaxa-

da isini maT Tvalwin mieRo igi. aseve mdabalTa Tvalwin

aRdga mkvdreTiT, raTa pirvelT exilaT is, rac sZag-

daT, xolo meoreT exilaT is, rac mowiwebiT uyvardaT.

amdenad, ampartavnebi xedaven mxolod imas, rac aris

Seuracxi sikvdilSi, xolo mdabalT sikvdilze xelmwi-

feba miecaT.

petre: miTxari, amis Semdeg kidev sad cxovrobda es

wmida moRvawe da ra saswaulebi aRasrula iq.

grigoli: wmida mosagre adgilebis gamocvlisas

mtrebs ar gaurboda. man amis Semdegac sastiki brZola

daiTmina TviT borotebis momgonisagan, romelic cxa-

dad aRudga win. monasteri, romelsac hqvia kasino, ma-

Ral mTaze iyo agebuli, kerZod, mis erT farTo bor-

cvze; mTa mis zeviT kidev sam milze iyo aRmarTuli,

TiTqos mwvervaliT varskvlavebisken iswrafoda.

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mwvervalze uZvelesi bomoni idga, romelSic, Zveli

warmarTebis Cveulebis mixedviT, ugunuri xalxi apo-

lons scemda Tayvans. uSualod demonTa sakurTxevel-

Tan tyis koromi iyo, sadac ugunur urwmunoTa brbo

uricxv msxverpls swiravda. iq misulma wmindanma kerpi

Semusra, samsxverplo daaqcia, tye gadawva da apolonis

taZari wmida martinis taZrad aqcia, apolonis sam-

sxverplos adgilze wmida ioanes taZari aago da iq mi-

sul xalxs daucxromeli qadagebiT WeSmariti rwmeni-

saken mouwodebda. magram uZvelesma mterma es mSvidad

ver aitana: is ara farulad an ZilSi, aramed cxadad

warmoudga wmida mamas da imdenad xmamaRla dastiroda

Tavis danakargs, rom misi xma Zmebsac esmodaT, Tumca

TvaliT ver xedavdnen. rogorc Semdeg wmindani mowafe-

ebs mouTxrobda, kacis es sazareli mteri gacecxlebu-

li da pirdabCenili ekveTa, Tan cecxlovan Tvalebs ub-

rialebda. yvelas esmoda eSmakis sityvebi. jer wmida ma-

mas mimarTa. rodesac man mters ar upasuxa, myisve misi

Zageba daiwyo. radgan Zaxilze: `benediqte, benediqte!~

ver gaigona misgan pasuxi, myisve daiyvira: `wyeuli

xar, da ara _ kurTxeuli, ra gaqvs CemTan saerTo?~ mag-

ram droulia sxva SemTxvevebi movigonoT, rodesac

RmrTis monas es uZvelesi mteri ebrZoda. boroti wmin-

dans xalisiT ucxadebda brZolas, magram uxalisod uT-

mobda gamarjvebas.

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Tavi mecxre

wmindanis locviT aziduli qva

erTxel am monastris Zmebi TavisTvis sacxovreblebs

agebdnen; monastris SuagulSi ido qva, Zmebs SenobaSi

misi Cayoleba hqondaT gadawyvetili. orma da samma misi

aweva ver SeZlo. maT sxvebic SeurTdnen, magram qva ise

uZravad ido, TiTqos miwaSi fesvebi hqonda gadgmuli.

cxadi iyo, rom masze uZvelesi mteri ijda da amitom

ver SeZlo misi daZvra mravali adamianis xelma. am wina-

aRmdegobis gamo sTxoves wmida mamas mosuliyo da loc-

viT gaegdo eSmaki, raTa qvis daZvra SeZlebodaT. is mo-

vida, locva aRavlina, akurTxa Zmebi da maT qva iseTi

siswrafiT aswies, TiTqos simZime arc hqonoda.

Tavi meaTe

warmosaxviTi xanZari

wmindanma ineba, rom iq, sadac qva ido, miwa gaeTxa-

raT. Zmebma sakmaod Rrma ormo gaTxares da iq spilenZis

kerpi aRmoaCines. rogorc ki is puris sacxobSi Seag-

des, myisve cecxli gamoCnda da monazonTa TvalSi TiT-

qos mTel Senobas moedo. rodesac yvelani wylisTvis

gaiqcnen, raTa warmosaxviTi xanZari CaeqroT, xmaurze

wmida mama gamovida. is ver xedavda xanZars, romelic

Zmebs warmoudgaT, myisve locva aRavlina da cru xan-

ZriT motyuebul Zmebs ubrZana Tvalebze jvari gamoesa-

xaT, raTa puris sacxobic uvnebeli exilaT da aRarc

cecxlis enebi daenaxaT, romelic maT mterma moaCvena.

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Tavi meTerTmete

monazoni, romelic Camoqceulma kedelma moiyola

da wmida benediqtes locviT daubrunda sicocxle

erTxel Zmebi monastris kedlebs amaRlebdnen, xolo

wmida mama am dros senakSi loculobda. mas borotis

mzraxveli mteri gamoecxada da Caagona momuSave Zmeb-

Tan gasuliyo. wmindanma myisve Zmebs amcno macnes piriT:

`Zmebo, frTxilad imuSaveT, imitom, rom boroti suli

mogixdebaT~. wargzavnils sityva ar hqonda damTavre-

buli, rom borotma kedlis is nawili gadaaqcia, ro-

melsac agebdnen da erTi monazonis morCils daeca. yve-

lani damwuxrdnen da Tavzardacemulni iyvnen ara ked-

lis gadmoqceviT, aramed _ Zmis sikvdiliT da mwared

atirebulni maSinve mama benediqtesTan gaemarTnen, rom

momxdari misTvis emcnoT. man ubrZana daSavebuli yrmis

sxeuli masTan moesvenebinaT. is zeda samosSi Sexveuli

miasvenes, radganac kedlis dacemis gamo Zvlebic ki Se-

musvrili hqonda. wmindanma brZana senakSi dafenil Wi-

lofze daesvenebinaT, romelzec locvis dros dgeboda.

Zmebs ubrZana, gasuliyvnen, kari Caketa da mxurvaled

iloca. sakvirveli saqme aResrula! man myisve uvnebeli

da janmrTeli gagzavna morCili imave samuSaos Sesas-

ruleblad, anu ZmebTan erTad kedlis mSeneblobis da-

sasruleblad. ase iqna Sercxvenili uZvelesi mteri,

romelsac surda benediqtesTvis yrmis daRupviT dae-

cina.

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Tavi meTormete

monazvnebi, romelTac sazrdeli senakis gareT mii-

Res

wmida mosagres sxva niWebTan erTad RmerTisgan wi-

naswarmetyvelebis niWic eboZa. is momavalze winaswar-

metyvelebda da masTan myofebs mouTxrobda, Tu ra xde-

boda maTgan moSorebiT. monastris ganwesebis Tanaxmad,

monastris gareT raime saqmeze gasuli Zmebi arc saW-

mels iRebdnen da arc sasmels da am wess mkacrad icav-

dnen. erTxel morCilebis gamo monastridan gasul Zmebs

Zlier SeagviandaT. maT Seityves, rom erTi RmrTismo-

SiSi dedakacis saxlTan imyofebodnen, masTan Sevidnen

da saWmeli miiRes. monasterSi gvian dabrunebulebma ma-

misgan locva-kurTxeva iTxoves. is gamocdis mizniT da-

ekiTxa: `sad WameT?~ maT miuges: `arsad~. amaze mamam mi-

ugo: `rad cruobT? gana ar SexvediT ama da am dedakac-

Tan saxlSi? gana esa da es ar miiReT? gana amdeni sasmisi

ar SesviT?~ amgvarad, rodesac Rirsma mamam dedakacis

stumarTmoyvareobaze, saWmlis saxeobasa da sasmelis

odenobaze mouTxro, maT yvelaferi daadastures, mis

ferxTiT ZrwoliT davardnen da codva aRiares. man Se-

codeba maSinve miuteva da daariga, rom masTan aryofnis

drosac iseve moqceuliyvnen, rogorc misi Tandaswre-

biT da scodnodaT, rom is suliT mudam maTTan aris.

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Tavi mecamete

wmida mamam Seicno, rom monazon valentinianes Zmam

gzaSi saWmeli miiRo

monazon valentinianes, romelic ukve vaxseneT, hyav-

da Zma. is eriskaci iyo, friad RmrTismoyvare. mas wesad

hqonda yovelwliurad gamgzavrebuliyo wmida benediq-

tes monasterSi, raTa RmrTis monis sityva moesmina da

RviZli Zma moenaxulebina. is gzaSi arasodes iRebda

saWmels. erTxel, rodesac monasterSi midioda, mas

sxva adamianic daemgzavra, romelsac Tan sagzali mih-

qonda. ukve gviani iyo, rodesac am ukanasknelma Tqva:

`Zmao, sazrdeli miviRoT, raTa gzaSi ar davuZlur-

deT~. man ki miugo: `ara, Zmao, radgan Cveulebad maqvs

mama benediqtesTan uzmo mivide~. amis gagonebaze Tanam-

gzavri droebiT dadumda, magram cotaodeni manZilis

gavlis Semdeg kvlav arwmunebda mieRoT sazrdeli. is,

vinc gadawyvita gza marxviT gaelia, ar Tanxmdeboda.

Tanamgzavri isev dadumda da gadawyvita ramdenime xani

Tavadac emarxula. Soreulma mogzaurobam isini daqan-

ca, gzaSi mindori da wyaro SexvdaT, sadac dasvenebas

SeZlebdnen. maSin Tanamgzavrma Tqva: `aha, wyalic aris,

mindoric, saamo adgilic, davisvenoT, rom Semdeg gzis

gagrZeleba SevZloT~. es sityvebi yurs eama, adgilma

Tvali moxibla; valentinianes Zma mesame SeTavazebaze

daTanxmda Tanamgzavrs da saWmeli miiRo. saRamoxans mo-

nasters miaRwia, Rirs benediqtes mieaxla da darigeba

sTxova, magram wmida mamam maSinve imisTvis amxila, rac

gzaSi Caidina: `rogor moxda, Zmao, rom veragma mterma,

romelic Tanamgzavris piriT gesaubreboda, verc pirve-

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lad gacduna da verc meored, magram mesamed gacduna da

Tavisi survilisamebr dagamarcxa?~ rodesac mwirma Ta-

visi unebisyofoba Seicno, wmindanis ferxTiT davarda

da miT umetes iglovda Tavis Secodebas da rcxvenoda,

rom mama benediqtes Tvalwin Sescoda, miuxedavad misi

iq aryofnisa.

petre: vxedav, rom wmida mosagreSi elises Semecne-

bis suli iyo (4 mef. 5, 25-26), romelmac ise Seicno, ra

Caidina misma mowafem misi aryofnis dros, TiTqos iq

yofiliyo.

Tavi meToTxmete

mefe totilas TvalTmaqcoba, romelic wmindanma

amxila

grigoli: dadumdi petre, radgan umetessac Seityob.

guTebis Semosevis Jams mefe totilam gaigo, rom wmida

mosagres winaswarmetyvelebis niWi hqonda. is monas-

trisken gaemarTa, mis Soriaxlos gaCerda da msaxuri

gagzavna, rom wmindanisTvis misi mosvlis Sesaxeb ecno-

bebina. wmindanma SemouTvala misuliyo, Tavad ki mis Se-

saxvedrad gaemzada. undoblobis gamo mefe gakadnierda

gamoecada, marTlac hqonda Tu ara RmrTis kacs winas-

warmetyvelebis niWi. erT-erT saWurvelTmtvirTvels,

saxelad rigos, mefem Tavisi fexsacmeli Caacva, samefo

samosiT Semosa da ubrZana wmindans rogorc mefe ise

wardgomoda, Tan amalis sami wevri gaayola, kerZod,

bulTi, roderiki da blindini. isini rigos aqeT-iqiT

unda gahyolodnen, romelic RmrTis monis winaSe mefe

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totilad unda warmdgariyo. garda amisa, sxva msaxure-

bi da saWurvelTmtvirTvelnic gaayola, raTa rogorc

samoslis, aseve amalis mixedviTac namdvil mefes dam-

sgavseboda. rodesac samosliTa da amaliT damSvenebuli

rigo monasterSi Sevida, wmida mosagre myisve Camojda,

daacada mosulT iseT manZilze miaxlovebodnen, rom mi-

si xma gaegoT da SesZaxa: `ganiSore, Svilo Cemo, gani-

Sore, rac gitvirTavs, ar aris Seni~. rigo maSinve mi-

waze daemxo, igi SeZrwunda imis gamo, rom gakadnierda

moetyuebina aseTi adamiani. yvela misi mxlebelic miwas

ganerTxa. fexze wamodgomis Semdeg wmindanTan miaxloe-

ba ver gabedes, dabrundnen TavianT mefesTan da SiSiT

akankalebulebma uambes, benediqtem maTi sicrue rogor

swrafad amxila.

Tavi meTxuTmete

winaswarmetyveleba, romelic imave mefe totilasa

da qalaq kanuziumis episkoposis mimarT gamoiTqva

maSin totila wmida mamas Tavad eaxla. roca dainaxa,

axlos misvla ver gabeda da miwaze daemxo. RmrTis kacma

orjer da samjer uTxra: `wamodeqi~, magram is mis wi-

naSe adgomas ver bedavda. maSin benediqte, ieso qristes

mona, TviTon miuaxlovda miwaze garTxmul mefes, wamoa-

yena, ujero saqmeTa gamo amxila da ramdenime sityviT

momavali uwinaswarmetyvela. `mraval borotebas Cadi-

xar, _ Tqva man, _ mravali borotebac Cagidenia, Tumca

momavalSi moinanieb ukeTurebas. romSi Sexval, zRvas

gadalaxav, cxra weli imefeb, magram meaTe wels mokvde-

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bi~. am sityvebma mefe Zlier SeaSina, misgan locva gamo-

iTxova da mas Semdeg uklo sisastikes. ramdenime xanSi

totila Tavs daesxa roms, Semdeg siciliaSi wavida, xo-

lo mefobis meaTe wels, yovlisSemZle RmerTis nebiT,

mefoba sicocxlesTan erTad dakarga.

am RmrTis monasTan xSirad modioda kanuziumis ekle-

siis winamZRoli, romelic misi cxovrebis gamo benediq-

tes Zlier uyvarda. benediqtesTan saubarSi, mefe to-

tilas Tavdasxmisa da romis daqcevis gamo, episkoposma

Tqva: `es mefe qalaqs ise mospobs, rom iq veRaravin ic-

xovrebs~. wmindanma miugo: `roms warmarTebi ki ar da-

aqceven, aramed saSineli qariSxlebis, Tavdasxmebisa da

miwisZvrebis Sedegad TavisiT daiqceva~. am winaswar-

metyvelebis saidumlo CvenTvis ukve dResaviT naTelia:

Cveni TvaliT vxedavT am qalaqSi darRveul kedlebs, ga-

daqceul saxlebs, damxobil taZrebs, vxedavT TandaTan

rogor iqceva nangrevebad Zveli Senobebi. es ambavi bene-

diqtes mowafe honoratma miambo, romelmac amis Sesaxeb

Seityo ara TviT wmindanisgan, aramed _ Zmebisgan.

Tavi meTeqvsmete

demonisgan droebiT gaTavisuflebuli klerikosi

imxanad qalaq akviniumis eklesiis klerikosi demonma

Seipyro. am eklesiis winamZRoli, Rirsi konstanti, mas

mowameTa saflavebTan gzavnida. magram wmida mowameebma

misTvis janmrTelobis miniWeba ar inebes imis gamo, rom

gamoCeniliyo, Tu rogori madli ganisvenebda benediq-

teze. klerikosi RmrTis mona benediqtesTan miiyvanes,

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romelmac ieso qristesadmi aRvlenili locviT myisve

gandevna Sepyrobili adamianisgan boroti suli. gan-

kurnebuls man mcnebad daudo: `wadi, amieridan ar Wamo

xorci da arasodes Seimoso samRvdelo xarisxi, Torem

im dResve, rodesac gakadnierdebi da samRvdelo xa-

risxs Seimosav, kvlav eSmakis Zalauflebis qveS aRmoC-

ndebi~. klerikosi gamojanmrTelebuli dabrunda da

radgan axali sasjeli, rogorc wesi, aSinebs suls,

erT xans icavda wmida mamis miTiTebas. wlebis Semdeg,

rodesac masze ufrosebi amqveynidan gavidnen, man ganiz-

raxa samRvdelo xarisxiT umcrosebze upiratesi gam-

xdariyo, RmrTis kacis sityvebi droTa ganmavlobaSi

daiviwya da samRvdelo dass SeuerTda. eSmaki, romel-

mac adre datova igi, myisve daeufla da sikvdilamde

tanjavda.

petre: wmida benediqte, rogorc Cans, TviT saRmrTo

saidumloebs swvdeboda, radgan ganWvrita, rom es kle-

rikosi eSmakis xelT aRmoCndeboda, Tuki samRvdelo

dasTan SeerTebiT gakadnierdeboda.

grigoli: rogor ar ecodineboda saRmrTo saidum-

loni imas, vinc RmrTis mcnebebs icavda, radgan dawe-

rilia: `xolo romeli Seeyos ufalsa, erT sul ars~

(1 kor. 6, 17).

petre: Tuki is, vinc ufals Seeyofa, erT sul ars

masTan, maSin igive didebuli mqadagebeli (mociquli

pavle) ratom ambobs sxvagan: `vin cna gonebaÁ uflisaÁ?

anu vin Tana-mzraxval eyo mas?~ (rom. 11, 34). Seusaba-

mod meCveneba, erT sul iyo vinmesTan da ver icna misi

goneba.

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grigoli: ramdenadac wmida mamebi RmerTs SeerTvian,

cnoben RmerTis gonebas. radgan igive mociquli ambobs:

`vin-me ukue icis kacman kacisaÁ, garna sulmanve kacisa-

man, romeli ars misTana? egreca RmrTisaÁ aravin icis,

garna sulmanve RmrTisaman~ (1kor. 2, 11), da imis saCve-

neblad, rom icnobs RmerTs, ambobs: `Cuen suli ara amis

soflisaÁ mogÂRebies, aramed suli igi, romel ars

RmrTisagan~ (1 kor. 2, 12). da kidev: `romeli Tualman

ara ixila, da yursa ara esma, da gulsa kacisasa ara

mouÃda, romeli ganumzada RmerTman moyvareTa TÂsTa.

xolo Cuen RmerTman gamogÂcxada sulisa mier TÂsisa~

(1 kor. 2, 9-10).

petre: Tuki am mociquls RmerTis sulma saRmrTo sa-

idumloni gamoucxada, maS rogorRa ambobs: `O, siRrme

simdidrisa da sibrZnisa da mecnierebisa RmrTisaÁ! vi-

Tar gamouZiebel arian gankiTxvani misni da gamoukvle-

vel arian gzani misni!~ (rom. 11, 33). da am sityvebze

sxva kiTxva miCndeba. wmida winaswarmetyveli daviTi

ufals eubneba: `bagiTa CemiTa miuTxren yovelni samar-

Talni pirisa Senisani~ (fs. 118, 13). ratom amtkicebs

wmida pavle, rom gamouZiebel arian gankiTxvani ufli-

sani, rodesac daviTi mowmobs, rom ara marto icoda yo-

velni samarTalni uflisani, aramed miuTxrobda kidec

Tavisi bageebiT.

grigoli: orive kiTxvaze ukve gipasuxe mokled, ro-

desac giTxari: ramdenadac wmida moRvaweni RmerTs

SeerTvian, maTTvis ucnobi ar aris uflis goneba, rad-

gan yoveli, vinc saTnoebaTa gziT uflis mimdevaria, mas

SeerTvis. magram, radgan xorciT arian damZimebulni,

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ufalTan mouklebelad yofna ar ZaluZT. amitom, ramde-

nadac SeerTvian mas, imdenad ician RmerTis dafaruli

gangeba; xolo ramdenadac ganeSorebian mas _ ar ician.

radgan misi saidumlos wvdoma srulyofilad ar Za-

luZT, mowmoben, rom gamoukvlevel arian gankiTxvani

misni. radgan gonebiT SeerTvian mas, am erTobis gziT

wmida werilis sityviT an saidumlo gamocxadebebis sa-

SualebiT gulisxmayofen da Seicnoben saRmrTo gangebas

da auwyeben sxvebsac. amgvarad, maT ar ician gangeba, ro-

melzec TviT ufali daidumebs, xolo RmerTisgan nauw-

yebi ician. amitom, rodesac wmida winaswarmetyvelma

daviTma Tqva: `bagiTa CemiTa miuTxren yovelni samar-

Talni~, iqve daumata: `pirisa Senisani~, TiTqosda amiT

ambobs: is gangeba SevZeli Semecno da meuwyebina, ro-

melTa Sesaxeb memcno Sens bageTagan, radgan imas, rasac

ar ambob, ueWvelia farav Cveni Semecnebisgan. amitom wi-

naswarmetyvelisa da mociqulis azrebi eTanxmeba urTi-

erTs _ gamouZiebel arin gankiTxvani RmrTisani; mag-

ram, romelTac is gamoTqvams Tavisi bageebiT, exareba

adamianTa piriT, radgan adamianebs SeuZliaT Seicnon

mxolod is, rasac RmerTi gamoucxadebs, xolo dafa-

ruls ver Seicnoben.

petre: amgvarad, Cemi kiTxva Tavadve Seicavda pasuxs.

miambe, geTayva, Tu kidev ici raime am mosagris saswaul-

Tagan.

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Tavi meCvidmete

winaswarmetyveleba monastris dangrevis Sesaxeb,

romelic wmida mamam gamoTqva

saxelovani kaci, saxelad Teoprobi, romelic bene-

diqtes xelmZRvanelobiT cxovrobda, RmrTis saTno

cxovrebis gamo misi udidesi ndobiT sargeblobda. er-

Txel benediqtes senakSi Sesul Teoprobs is mwared

atirebuli daxvda. Teoprobi didxans idga da Sescqe-

roda wmida mama rogor Rvrida cremls, Tanac ara im-

gvars, rogorc Cveulebriv locvis dros Rvrida, ara-

med mtkivneulad iurvoda, da daekiTxa, ra iyo misi ase-

Ti Wmunvis mizezi. RmrTis kacma myisve miugo: `es monas-

teri, romelic me avaSene da yovelive, rac ZmebisTvis

aris momzadebuli, yovlisSemZle RmerTis gangebiT

warmarTebis xelSi gadava. RmerTisgan isRa gamoviTxo-

ve, rom aq mcxovreb ZmaTa sulebi mommadlos~. es winas-

warmetyveleba mxolod Teoprobma icoda. Cven vxedavT,

rom axda igi, radgan viciT, monasteri longobardebma

daaqcies. RamiT, rodesac Zmebs eZinaT, longobardebi

monasterSi SeiWrnen; maT yvelaferi gaitaces, magram

arc erTi adamiani ar wauyvaniaT: yovlisSemZle Rmer-

Tma aRasrula is, rac Tavis erTgul mona benediqtes

aRuTqva, anu qoneba warmarTebs gaatana, xolo sulebi

daifara. am SemTxvevaSi wmida benediqtesTan iseTive ram

aRsrulda, rac erT dros mociqul pavlesTan (saqme

27, 22-44), romelsac zRvaze qariSxlis Semdeg RmerTma

nugeSad TanamgzavrTa sicocxle mimadla, Tumca xomal-

di tvirTTan erTad dainTqa.

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Tavi meTvramete

gadamaluli WurWeli, romlis Sesaxeb wmida mamam

suliT Seityo

erTxel Cveni eqsilarati, romlis moqcevis Sesaxeb

Tavadac ici, winamZRvarma ori Tixis WurWliT (rom-

lebsac xalxi flakonebs uwodebs) Rvinis mosatanad

gagzavna. man erTi moitana, meore ki gzaSi gadamala,

magram wmida mamam, romlisTvisac mis aryofnaSi Cadeni-

li saqcieli dafaruli ar rCeboda, motanili WurWeli

madlobiT miiRo da mimavali yrma daariga: `gafrTxil-

di, Svilo Cemo, im WurWlidan, romelic gadamale, ar

dalio, frTxilad daxare da naxav, SigniT ra aris~.

RmrTis kacisgan is aRelvebuli gamovida da imis Sesa-

mowmeblad, rac gaigona, wavida da WurWeli daxara, sa-

idanac gveli gamosrialda. maSin yrma eqsilarati, mxi-

lebuli imiT, rac naxa RvinoSi, Tavisive namoqmedariT

SeZrwunda.

Tavi mecxramete

damaluli xelsaxocebi, romelTa Sesaxeb wmida be-

nediqtem Seityo

monastris siaxloves erTi sofeli mdebareobda, sa-

dac wmida benediqtem uamravi adamiani kerpTayvanismcem-

lobidan RmerTis rwmenaze moaqcia. iqve ramdenime wmi-

da dedakaci cxovrobda. wmindani cdilobda sulieri

sargeblobisTvis Zmebi maTTan xSirad gaegzavna. er-

Txel Cveulebriv gagzavna, magram gagzavnilma monazon-

ma qadageba-swavlebis Semdeg, mowese dedebisgan saCuq-

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rad xelsaxocebi miiRo da ubeSi damala. dabrunebisTa-

nave RmrTis monam igi guliswyromiT amxila: `rogor

Sevida uRirseba Sens wiaRSi?~ magram is TiTqosda ga-

moSterdao, daaviwyda, rac Caidina da ver mixvda, ris-

Tvis sayvedurobdnen. benediqtem uTxra: `nuTu ar viya-

vi iq, rodesac RmrTis mxevlebs xelsaxocebi gamoarTvi

da ubeSi Caide?~ damnaSave myisve mis ferxTiT davarda,

codva Seinana da ubeSi damaluli xelsaxocebi gadaagdo.

Tavi meoce

monazvnis ampartavnuli gulisTqma, romelic wmida

mamam Seicno

erTxel, saRamoxans, Rirsi mama sazrdels iRebda,

erT monazons xelSi kelaptari epyra da unaTebda. wmi-

da mama miirTmevda, xolo is mis win kelaptriT xelSi

idga da boroti sulis waqezebiT gulSi amgvarad fiq-

robda: `vin aris is, rom mis winaSe vidge, man Wamos, me

ki kelaptari meWiros da vemsaxuro?~ RmrTis kacma mas

maSinve mxilebiT mimarTa: `gulze jvari gamoisaxe,

Zmao, ras fiqrob? gamoisaxe jvari gulze~. myisve Zmebs

mouxmo, ubrZana misTvis lampari CamoerTmiaT, TviT mas

ki ubrZana daetovebina msaxureba da Tavis senakSi gan-

martoebuliyo. Zmebis kiTxvaze, Tu ras fiqrobda is

gulSi, man Tanamimdevrulad mouTxro, rogori ampar-

tavnuli gulisTqma daeufla da wmida mamis winaaRmdeg

gonebaSi ra sityvebs ambobda. maSin yvelasTvis cxadi

Seiqna, rom Rirsi benediqtesgan dafaruli araferi

rCeboda da mas idumali zraxvebic yurSi Caesmoda.

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Tavi ocdameerTe

orasi sawyao fqvili, romelic SimSilobis dros

wmida mosagris senakTan aRmoaCines

erTxel kampaniis olqis im nawilSi SimSiloba mZvin-

varebda da xalxi sanovagis did naklebobas ganicdida:

TviT benediqtes monastersac aRar hqonda xorbali, pu-

ric TiTqmis gamoilia, trapezis dros ZmebisTvis xuTi-

ode puri Zlivs moiZies. rodesac Rirsma mamam maTi mwu-

xareba SeniSna, Seecada mSvidi mxilebiT gamoesworebina

maTi sulmokleoba da daemSvidebina dapirebiT: `rad

SegiZrwundaT gulebi puris simciriT? marTalia, dRes

cotaa, xval samagierod uxvad geqnebaT~. meore dRes mi-

si senakis win tomrebiT orasi sawyao fqvili naxes:

dRemde ucnobia, yovlisSemZle RmerTma es Semowiru-

loba visi xeliT gamougzavna. rodesac amis Sesaxeb

Zmebma Seityves, RmerTs madloba aRuvlines da iswav-

les, siuxvis moklebis gamo TviT uqonlobis Jamsac ar

Seorguldnen.

petre: miTxari, geTayva, am RmrTis monaSi winaswar

xedvis suli mouklebelad iyo, Tu mxolod drodadro

aRivseboda misi goneba winaswarmetyvelebis suliT?

grigoli: winaswarmetyvelebis suli, petre, winas-

warmetyvelTa gonebas yovelTvis ar gananaTlebs. ro-

gorc suliwmindis Sesaxeb aris dawerili: `sulsa vid-

reca unebn, qrin~ (ioan. 3, 8). unda vicodeT, rom is

`qrin~ _ rodesac da ratomac inebebs. magaliTad, ro-

desac daviTma hkiTxa naTans (2 mef. 7, 3-17), SeZlebs Tu

ara (daviTi) taZris agebas, naTanma jer dadebiTad upa-

suxa, xolo Semdeg uaryofiTad. rodesac elisem mtira-

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li dedakaci dainaxa da misi tirilis mizezi ar icoda,

yrmas, romelic mas tirils ukrZalavda, uTxra: `acade

da nu etyK, rameTu tkivneul ars, da ufalman damala

Cemgan da ara miTxra me~ (4 mef. 4, 27). am SemTxvevaSi

yovlisSemZle RmerTi moqmedebs udidesi gulmowyale-

biT: winaswarmetyvelebis suls zogjer aniWebs, zog-

jer mouRebs. am gziT winaswarmetyvelis gonebas aRa-

maRlebs da simdableSiac icavs, raTa sulis mosvlisas

xedavdnen, RmerTi maTze ras aRasrulebs, xolo masTan

ganSorebisas Seicnon, sakuTari Zalebis amara rogori

uZlurni arian.

petre: darwmunebuli var, marTlac isea, rogorc

Sen amtkiceb. gTxov, miambe, Tu gagondeba kidev raime

Rirsi benediqtes Sesaxeb.

Tavi ocdameore

teracinis monastris ageba, rogorc amis Sesaxeb

xilvaSi emcno wmida benediqtes

grigoli: erTma RmrTismoSiSma kacma wmida benediq-

tes sTxova Tavisi mowafeebi waregzavna, raTa mis ma-

mulSi, qalaq teracinis maxloblad monasteri aegoT.

benediqte mis Txovnas daeTanxma, ramdenime Zma gagzavna

da maT winamZRvari da misi moadgilec daudgina. gam-

gzavrebis win maT dahpirda: `wadiT, me ama da am dRes

moval da giCvenebT, sad unda aagoT taZari, sad _ ZmaTa

satrapezo, sad _ sastumro momsvlelTa misaRebad da

sxva aucilebeli nagebobebi~. maT locva-kurTxeva mii-

Res, im adgilze gaemgzavrnen, daniSnul dRes mouTmen-

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lad elodnen da monastris mSeneblobisTvis yovelive

aucilebeli moamzades. daniSnuli dRis win, im RmrTis

monas, romelic winamZRvrad iqna dadgenili da mis mo-

adgiles, wmida mama ZilSi gamoecxada da zedmiwevniT

mianiSna, sad ra unda aegoT. gaRviZebulebma nanaxi er-

TmaneTs gaandes, magram ZilSi nanaxs mTlad ver mien-

dvnen da RmrTis kacs daelodnen, radgan igi mosvlas

dahpirda. rodesac daniSnul dRes wmindani ar movida,

damwuxrebulebi mividnen masTan da uTxres: `mamao, ge-

lodiT, gvegona, rom dapirebisamebr moxvidodi da gviC-

venebdi, sad ra unda agvego, magram ar moxvedi~. man upa-

suxa: `Zmebo, amas rad ambobT? nuTu dapirebisamebr ar

movedi?~ kiTxvaze: `rodis moxvedi?~ _ man miugo: `nu-

Tu orive Tqvengans ZilSi ar gamogecxadeT da adgilebi

ar migiTiTeT? wadiT da rac gesmaT da ixileT, monas-

tris Senoba imgvarad aageT~. maT es sityvebi didi gak-

virvebiT moismines, xsenebul mamulSi dabrundnen da

monastris yvela Senoba ise aages, rogorc ZilSi ixi-

les.

petre: msurs vicode, rogor SeiZleboda momxdari-

yo, rom Zmebisgan Sors myof wmindans mZinareTaTvis mi-

TiTeba mieca, rac maT ZilSi ixiles da esmaT.

grigoli: petre, rad eWvob da gamoeZieb, Tu ragva-

rad aResrula es saqme? sruliad cxadia, rom suli bev-

rad ufro advilad gadaadgildeba, vidre sxeuli. wmida

werilis damowmebiT ueWvelad viciT, rom iudeidan aR-

tacebuli winaswarmetyveli (ambakumi), uecrad daeSva

qaldeaSi saWmliT xelSi (dan. 14, 33-39), romliTac wi-

naswarmetyveli (danieli) asazrdova da Semdeg iseve

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meyseulad iudeaSi aRmoCnda. amrigad, Tuki ambakums Se-

eZlo sxeuliT ase Sors gadaadgilebuliyo da wamisyo-

faSi saWmeli mietana winaswarmetyvelisTvis, ra gasak-

viria, Tuki benediqte iq mivida, sadac suliT iswrafo-

da da mZinare Zmebis sulebs uTxra is, rac saWiro iyo?

rogorc iman sxeuliT miaRwia sxeulis gamosakvebad,

ise aman _ sulierad, sulieri cxovrebis mosawyobad.

petre: Senma sityvam, gamogitydebi, eWvi gamifanta,

magram minda vicode, es mosagre Cveulebriv saubarSi

rogori iyo?

Tavi ocdamesame

ori enkratisi (monazoni dedebi), romlebic sik-

vdilis Semdgom wmida benediqtes mier evqaristia-

ze aRvlenili locviT eklesiis wiaRSi iqnen dab-

runebulni

grigoli: wmida benediqtes sruliad Cveulebrivi

saubaric, petre, sulier Zalas moklebuli ar iyo: visi

gulic RmerTisken iswrafoda, imis bageTagan gamosuli

sityva amao arasodes yofila. Tuki odesme raimes daum-

tkiceblad gamoTqvamda, mxolod muqariT, maSinac ki mi-

si sityva iseTi Zalmosili iyo, TiTqos gadaWriT gamo-

eTqvas, saboloo ganaCenis saxiT. magaliTad, misi monas-

tris siaxloves ori warCinebuli RmrTismosavi enkra-

tisi Tavissave saxlSi sulis cxonebisTvis iRvwoda.

maT erTi RmrTismoSiSi kaci Seeweoda da sicocxlis-

Tvis yovelive aucilebels awvdida. zogierT adamianSi

warmomavloba sulmdablobas Sobs da Tavs mxolod imis

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gamo ganidideben, rom TavianTi warmomavloba axsovT.

xsenebulma dedebmac ena srulad ver moTokes, Tavs saT-

noebis garegani safarveliT ifaravdnen da im RmrTis-

moSiS monas, romelic maT saarsebo saSualebebs awvdi-

da, mouridebeli sityvebiT xSirad Seuracxyofdnen. is

didxans iTmenda, magram Semdeg RmrTis kacs eaxla da

uambo, dedebisgan ra Seuracxyofas iTmenda. wmindanma

maT Sesaxeb es rom gaigo, maSinve SeuTvala: `enebi moiz-

RudeT; Tuki ar gamoswordebiT, eklesiisgan gan-

gkveTT~. gankveTis Sesaxeb man, cxadia, warmoTqva ara

gadaWriT, aramed _ mxolod muqariT. qalwulebs nakli

odnavadac ar gamousworebiaT, ramdenime dRis Semdeg ki

aResrulnen da taZarSi dakrZales. rodesac im taZarSi

liturgia aRevlineboda da diakvani warmoTqvamda sit-

yvebs: `kaTakmevelno ganvediT~, _ im mowese dedebis aR-

mzrdeli qali, romelsac wesad hqonda maT saxelze uf-

lis mimarT Sesawiravi gaeRo, xedavda, isini saflavebi-

dan rogor dgebodnen da taZridan gadiodnen. ramdenime

xilvis Semdeg aRmzrdels moagonda, Tu ra uTxra maT

RmrTis kacma, rodesac cocxlebi iyvnen. maT eklesias-

Tan erToba aqvT CamorTmeuli, _ gadawyvita aRmzrdel-

ma, _ radgan ar gamoaswores ena da zne. maSin damwuxre-

bulma qalma amis Sesaxeb RmrTis monas mouTxro. wmida

benediqtem myisve sefiskveri misca da uTxra: `wadi, es

sefiskveri ufals maTTvis Seswire da gankveTilebi

aRar iqnebian~. rodesac es msxverpli Sewirul iqna da

diakvanma kvlav Cveulebisamebr mouwoda, rom kaTakmev-

lebi taZridan gasuliyvnen, mowese dedebi gareT aRar

gasulan. sruliad cxadad Cans, rom gankveTilni kaTak-

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mevelTa ricxvSi iyvnen, vidre RmrTis monis meoxebiT

ufalma eklesiasTan erTobis Rirsi ar gaxada.

petre: sakvirvelia, jer kidev amqveynad, xrwnad

xorcSi myofma Rirsma mamam, rogor gaxsna sulebi,

romlebic ukve sxva, uxilav msjavrs iyvnen daqvemdeba-

rebulni.

grigoli: sayvarelo petre, nuTu xorcSi ar iyo is,

visac esma aRTqma: `romeli Sehkra queyanasa zeda, krul

iyos igi caTa Sina; da romeli ganhÃsna queyanasa zeda,

Ãsnil iyos igi caTa Sina~ (maT. 16, 19)? Sekvrasa da gax-

snaSi misi memkvidreni isini arian, vinc rwmenisa da ke-

Tilzneobriobis meoxebiT samRvdelo xelmwifebas iRe-

ben. miwier adamians amgvari saqmis aRsruleba rom SeZ-

leboda, cisa da miwis Semoqmedi zecidan qveynad garda-

moxda, _ xorcs TviT sulTa gansjac rom SeZleboda;

RmerTma, romelmac xorcni Seisxna adamianTaTvis, igi

amgvari madlis Rirsi gaxada, _ Cveni uZlureba maSin

daiZlia, rodesac igi RmerTis Zlierebam Seimosa.

petre: sityvis WeSmariteba saswaulis ZaliT mar-

Tldeba.

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Tavi ocdameoTxe

yrma monazoni, romelsac dakrZalvis Semdeg miwa

ganagdebda

grigoli: erTxel yrma monazoni, romelsac mSoblebi

zomaze metad uyvarda, maTTan gaemgzavra, magram monas-

tridan kurTxevis gareSe gavida da im dResve, maTTan

misvlisTanave, gardaicvala. is dakrZales, magram meo-

re dRes misi sxeuli miwidan amogdebuli naxes. is kvlav

dakrZales, magram momdevno dRes isev amogdebuli aRmo-

aCines. maSin dauyovnebliv wmida benediqtes mimarTes da

cxare cremliT evedrebodnen, rom mas yrmisTvis Sendo-

ba miemadlebina. wmida mamam zeTi akurTxa, misca da uT-

xra: `wadiT, es zeTi mkerdze daasxiT da amgvarad dak-

rZaleT~. rodesac maT brZaneba aRasrules, miwam sxeu-

li Seiwynara da aRar ganugdia. gulisxmayav, petre, es

moRvawe ufal ieso qristesagan rogori madliT iyo mo-

sili: imis sxeuls miwac ki ganagdebda, vinc Rirsi bene-

diqtes brZaneba daarRvia.

petre: cxadad vxedav da gakvirvebuli var.

Tavi ocdamexuTe

monazoni, romelsac monastridan gasvlis Semdeg

urCxuli Sexvda.

grigoli: erTi monazoni gonebagafantulobam Seip-

yro da monasterSi cxovreba aRar surda. wmida mama

gulmodgined Seagonebda da xSirad afrTxilebda, mag-

ram is arafriT Tanxmdeboda ZmobaSi darCeniliyo da

gulisgamawvrilebeli TxovniT _ gaeSva monastridan _

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Rirs mamas imdenad Seawyina Tavi, rom ganrisxebulma

ubrZana, wasuliyo. gavida Tu ara monastridan, mona-

zons gzaze, pirispir, pirdaRebuli urCxuli Sexvda.

man SeWma daupira, SeSinebulma monazonma ki xmamaRali

yvirili morTo: `miSveleT, urCxuli SeWmas mipirebs~.

Zmebma moirbines, magram urCxuli versad naxes, aTrTo-

lebuli monazoni ki monasterSi daabrunes. man maSinve

aRTqma dado, rom monastridan aRarasodes gavidoda da

mtkiced Seasrula Tavisi aRTqma. amgvarad, wmindanis

locviT, man urCxuli pirispir ixila, romelsac aqamde

ise mihyveboda, rom ver xedavda.

Tavi ocdameeqvse

keTrisgan gankurnebuli yrma

vfiqrob, ar unda gavCumde imis Taobaze, rac gavige

saxelganTqmuli mosagris, antonisgan, romelic miam-

bobda, rom mamamiss yrma keTriT dauavadda, mas Tma gas-

cvivda, xolo kani amoeburca da Cirqis grovas veRar

faravda. mamam is wmida benediqtesTan gagzavna da yrma

maSinve ganikurna.

Tavi ocdameSvide

oqros monetebi, romlebic movalem saswaulebri-

vad aRmoaCina

imasac gadmogcem, rasac benediqtes mowafe, saxelad

peregrine, xSirad miambobda. erT patiosan kacs valebi

daugrovda. man Tavis gadasarCenad erTaderTi saSuale-

ba moifiqra _ wmindanTan misuliyo da eTqva, vali ro-

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gor amZimebda. wavida monasterSi, moZebna igi da uambo,

rogor iTxovda misgan mevale Tormet oqros. Rirsma ma-

mam sawyali kaci tkbili sityviT daamSvida da uTxra:

`ori dRis Semdeg modi, radgan amJamad araferi maqvs,

rom mogce~. es ori dRe wmindanma Cveulebisamebr loc-

vaSi gaatara. rodesac mesame dRes movale dabrunda, mo-

nastris sakuWnaosTan, sadac purs inaxavdnen, cameti

oqro aRmoaCines. wmida mamam napovni fuli moatanina,

brZana sawyali movalisTvis miecaT da uTxra, Tormeti

mevalisTvis daebrunebina, erTi ki saWiroebisamebr

TviTon gamoeyenebina.

davubrundeT imas, rac wmida benediqtes mowafeebis-

gan Sevityve, romlebic wignis dasawyisSi vaxseneT. erT

adamians mteri friad aWirvebda. is siZulviliT iqamde

mivida, rom farulad sasmelSi Sxams urevda. Tumca

Sxamma ver mokla, magram kani ise auWrelda, rom keTri-

ans hgavda. magram RmrTis kacTan misvlisTanave gamo-

janmrTelda: is iyo mas benediqte Seexo, rom kanis siW-

rele myisve gaqra da Zveleburi ieri daubrunda.

Tavi ocdamerve

minis WurWeli, romelic qvaze daenarcxa da ar da-

imsxvra

im dros, rodesac kampaniis olqSi SimSiloba mZvinva-

rebda, wmindani yvelafers gaWirvebulebs urigebda,

ise, rom sakuWnaoSi cotaodeni zeTis garda aRaraferi

darCa, romelic minis WurWliT inaxeboda. maSin erTma

ipodiakvanma, saxelad aRapitem, daJinebiT moiTxova,

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rom cotaodeni zeTi misTvis miecaT. wmindanma, romel-

sac gadawyvetili hqonda miwaze yvelaferi gaeca, raTa

zecaSi daeunjebina, brZana mTxovnelisTvis darCenili

zeTi miecaT. sakuWnaos zedamxedvelma monazonma wminda-

nis miTiTeba Tumca gaigo, magram ar aRasrula. rodesac

ramdenime xanSi mas hkiTxes, Seasrula Tu ara brZaneba,

monazonma upasuxa, rom ar gasca zeTi, radgan mTxovne-

lisTvis rom mieca, danarCeni ZmebisTvis aRaraferi

darCeboda. maSin ganrisxebulma wmida benediqtem sxvebs

ubrZana, rom is WurWeli, romelSic cotaodeni zeTi

iyo, fanjridan gadaegdoT, raTa monasterSi daumorCi-

leblobis gamo araferi darCeniliyo. asec moiqcnen. im

fanjris win cicabo, basri qvebiT mofenili flate iyo.

minis WurWeli qvebze daenarcxa, magram uvnebeli dar-

Ca, arc zeTi daRvrila. wmindanma ubrZana amoetanaT

WurWeli da radgan mTeli gadarCa, mTxovnelisTvis mie-

caT. maSin man ZmaTa krebulis winaSe amxila urCi mona-

zoni undoblobisa da ampartavnebisaTvis.

Tavi ocdamecxre

zeTiT avsebuli carieli kasri

amgvari mxilebis Semdeg wmida benediqte ZmebTan er-

Tad locvad dadga. im adgilas, sadac isini loculob-

dnen, idga carieli, Tavdaxuruli kasri. wmindani loc-

vas ganagrZobda. am dros kasris saxuravi aiwia, radgan

masSi zeTi aRmoCnda da moulodnelad mateba iwyo.

kasrs saxuravi moxades, magram zeTma gadmosvla daiwyo

da iatakze daiRvara. amis danaxvaze wmida benediqtem

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Sewyvita locva da aRarc zeTi daRvrila iatakze. maSin

urCi da urwmuno Zma kidev erTxel daariga, is ki am

macxovnebeli Segonebis Semdeg darcxvenili idga, rad-

gan Rirsma mamam saswauliT uCvena yovlisSemZle Rmer-

Tis Zala, ris Sesaxebac Tavis darigebebSi saubrobda.

mas Semdeg aRaravis Sehqonda eWvi imis dapirebebSi, vi-

sac erT wuTSi TiTqmis carieli minis WurWlis sanac-

vlod zeTiT savse kasris mocema SeeZlo.

Tavi ocdameaTe

demonisgan daxsnili monazoni

erT dRes wmindani mTis mwvervalze agebul netari

ioanes taZarSi midioda; gzad uZvelesi mteri Semoxvda

cxenebis eqimis saxiT, Tan buki da samfexa (cxenebis Se-

sakravi iaraRi) mihqonda. wmindanma hkiTxa: `sad midi-

xar?~ _ man upasuxa: `ZmebTan mivdivar, sasmeli unda

mivce~. wmindani locvaze wavida, romlis dasrulebis-

Tanave ukan dabrunda. borotma sulma ki erTi moxuci

monazoni dainaxa, romelic wyals avsebda, myisve masSi

Sevida, miwaze dasca da saSinlad awamebda. rodesac es

locvidan dabrunebulma wmindanma dainaxa, monazons sa-

xeSi msubuqad Semohkra da myisve ganagdo misgan boro-

ti, romelmac masSi Sesvla gabeda.

petre: msurs vicode, wmida benediqte amgvar saswau-

lebs yovelTvis locvis ZaliT aRasrulebda, Tu mxo-

lod nebis gamovleniT.

grigoli: imaT, vinc keTili saqmeebiT da gonebis siw-

mindiT maradis ufalTan arian, saWiroebis mixedviT Se-

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uZliaT aRasrulon saswaulebi rogorc erTi, ise meo-

re gziT. amgvarad, zogjer locviT aRasruleben, xolo

zogjer _ Tavisi xelmwifebiT. wmida ioane maxarebeli

gveubneba: `raodenTa-igi Seiwynares, mosca maT Ãelmwi-

febaÁ Svil RmrTisa yofad~ (ioan. 1, 12). Tuki arseboben

iseTi adamianebi, romelTac xelmwifeba aqvT Svil

RmrTisa yofad, maS rad aris gasakviri, rom aseTebs Ta-

vianTi xelmwifebiT ZaluZT aRasrulon saswaulebi?

maT rom orgvarad ZaluZT aRasrulon saswaulebi, kar-

gad adasturebs wmida mociqul petres magaliTi, ro-

melmac gardacvlili tabiTa locviT mkvdreTiT aRad-

gina (saqme 9, 39-41), xolo cru anania da safira mxile-

bis gziT sikvdils gadasca (saqme 5, 1-10). ar aris naT-

qvami, rom is maTi mokvdinebisTvis loculobda, aramed

mxolod maTi codva amxila. amgvarad, cxadia, rom wmin-

danebi saswaulebs TavianTi xelmwifebiT aRasruleben,

zogjer ki _ locviT, rogorc petrem waarTva sicoc-

xle ananias da safiras, xolo tabiTas locviT mianiWa

igi. erTbaSad magondeba wmida benediqtes mier aRsru-

lebuli ori saswauli, romelTagan erTi uflisgan mo-

niWebuli xelmwifebiT aRasrula, xolo meore _ loc-

viT.

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Tavi ocdameTerTmete

Sekruli glexi, romelic wmindanis SexedviT Rve-

debisagan gaTavisuflda

erTi guTi, saxelad cala, romelic arianul eress

misdevda maTi mefis _ totilas dros, marTlmadidebe-

li eklesiis sasuliero moRvaweebis mimarT saSineli

siZulviliT iyo aRvsili. Tuki romelime mRvdelmsa-

xurs an monazons Tvals mohkravda, is cocxali mas Tavs

ver daaRwevda. erT dRes angarebiTa da avazakobiT aR-

Zrulma guTma wameba dauwyo erT soflel kacs. wamebiT

Zleulma guTs uTxra, rom Tavisi saunje RmrTis mona

benediqtes misca, raTa dro moego da sicocxle gadaer-

Cina, Tuki mtarvali mis sityvebs irwmunebda. calam mi-

si wameba Sewyvita, xelebi sqeli RvedebiT Seukra da

win gaigdo, rom glexs eCvenebina, vin iyo benediqte, ro-

melsac saunje misca, xolo TviTon ukan cxeniT gahyva.

soflelma kacma guTi wmida benediqtes monasterTan mi-

iyvana. am dros wmindani monastris alayafis win ijda

da kiTxulobda. glexi miubrunda calas da uTxra: `ai,

es aris benediqte, romlis Sesaxeb giTxari~. gonebagar-

yvnilma da SeSlilma calam mrisxane mzera styorcna

wmindans, egona masac sxvebiviT SeaSinebda da xmamaRla

uyvira: `adeqi, adeqi, daubrune am kacs is, rac waar-

Tvi~. mis xmaze wmida mamam sakiTxavs Tvali moswyvita,

mas miapyro mzera da gvian SeniSna glexi, romelic iqve

xelebSekruli idga. man rogorc ki mis Sekrul xelebs

Sexeda, Rvedebma saswaulebrivad iseTi siswrafiT iwyes

gaxsna, rom veraviTari adamianuri simkvircxle amas

ver SeZlebda. rodesac Sekruli glexi wamSi gaTavi-

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suflda, amgvari xelmwifebis ZaliT SeSinebuli guTi

miwaze daemxo, Tavisi sastiki qedi moidrika wmindanis

ferxTiT da Tavi mis locvas Sehvedra. wmindanma Zmebs

mouxmo da ubrZana monasterSi SeeyvanaT igi kurTxevis

misaRebad.1 rodesac cala isev masTan miiyvanes, Seago-

nebda daetevebina ugunuri sisastike. gulSemusvrile-

biT mimaval guTs aRaraferi uTxovia glexisTvis, rome-

lic wmindanma xelis Sexebis gareSe, mxolod SexedviT

ganxsna sakrvelTagan. ai, ras niSnavs, sayvarelo petre,

Cemi naTqvami, rom imaT, vinc yovlisSemZle RmerTs kad-

nierebiT emsaxureba, zogjer saswaulis aRsruleba Ta-

visi xelmwifebiTac ZaluZT. imas, vinc guTis mZvinvare-

ba mjdomarem moaTviniera, xolo Rvedebi, romliTac

udanaSaulo adamiani iyo Sekruli, mzeriT gaxsna, xel-

mwifeba hqonda imaze, rac aRasrula. es TviT saswaulis

aRsrulebis siswrafiT daamowma. amasTan erTad giam-

bob, Tu ra didi saswaulis aRsruleba SeeZlo mas loc-

viT.

1 kurTxevaSi, rogorc Cans, aq igulisxmeba puri, romelsac mo-

nasterSi winamZRvari trapezis win akurTxebs an _ ubralod ta-

ZarSi nakurTxi puri. wmida benediqtem brZana cala, miuxedavad mi-

si sisastikisa, samonastro Cveulebis Tanaxmad, nakurTxi puriT

daepurebinaT, rogorc Cveulebriv umaspinZldebodnen gzad mima-

val eriskacebs.

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Tavi ocdameTormete

micvalebulis mkvdreTiT aRdgena

erT dRes wmindani ZmebTan erTad mindorSi gavida sa-

muSaod. im dros erTi glexi, romelic xeliT micvale-

bul Zes moasvenebda da mwared glovobda danakargs, mo-

nasters moadga da wmida benediqtes eZebda. rodesac

uTxres, rom is ZmebTan erTad mindorSia, glexma Svi-

lis cxedari monastris karibWesTan miawvina da dam-

wuxrebuli Rirsi mamis saZebnelad gaemarTa. am dros

wmindani ZmebTan erTad ukve brundeboda mindvridan. da-

inaxa Tu ara igi Svilmkvdarma kacma, xmamaRla ayvirda:

`damibrune Cemi Svili, damibrune Cemi Svili!~ wmindan-

ma uTxra: `nuTu me wagarTvi Svili?~ glexma upasuxa:

`is mokvda. modi da mkvdreTiT aRadgine~. amis gagoneba-

ze RmrTis mona Zlier damwuxrda da Tqva: `gaecaleT,

Zmebo, gaecaleT; es Cveni saqme ar aris, aramed _ wmida

mociqulebisa. rad gindaT iseTi tvirTi dagvakisroT,

romlis zidvac ar ZalgviZs?~ magram is, visac ganuzo-

meli mwuxareba stanjavda, daucxromlad iTxovda Tavi-

sas, ficiT irwmuneboda, rom ar wavidoda, Tu benediqte

mis vaJs ar aRadgenda. amis Semdeg RmrTis monam hkiTxa:

`sad aris is?~ kacma miugo: `aha, misi cxedari monas-

tris alayafis win asvenia~. wmindani im adgils ZmebTan

erTad miuaxlovda, muxli moidrika, yrmis cxedarze

ganerTxa, gaimarTa, xelebi zecad aRapyro da iloca:

`RmerTo, nu mihxedav codvaTa CemTa, aramed am adamia-

nis rwmenas Seewie, romelic iTxovs mkvdreTiT aRvad-

gino misi Ze, da suli, romelsac SenTan mouxme, daabru-

ne am sxeulSi~. is iyo locva daasrula, yrmis sxeuli

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masSi sulis dabrunebis gamo mTlianad SeinjRra. yvela

iq myofi xedavda, ra saocrad irxeoda da TrToda igi.

Semdeg wmindanma yrmas xelze xeli mohkida, wamoayena

da cocxali da janmrTeli mamas gadasca. cxadia, sayva-

relo petre, rom mas ar hqonda xelmwifeba am saswau-

lis aRsrulebisa, aramed ganrTxmuli loculobda, ra-

Ta mis aRsasruleblad RmerTs Zala mieca.

petre: cxadia, yovelives marTals ambob, radgan sit-

yvas gamocdilebiT adastureb. magram miTxari, geTayva,

yvela wmida mamas SeuZlia aRasrulos is, rac nebavs da

yvelas eZleva is, rasac isurvebs?

Tavi ocdamecamete

saswauli, romelic wmida benediqtes dam, sqolas-

tikam, aRasrula

grigoli: vin aris amqveynad pavleze aRmatebuli,

romelic ufals samgzis evedra xorcTa sawertelisgan

gaeTavisuflebina igi, Tumca sawadels ver ewia? amasTan

dakavSirebiT saWirod mimaCnia Rirsi benediqtes Sesa-

xeb mogiTxro, radgan man ver aRasrula is, rac surda.

wmindanis das, saxelad sqolastikas, romelic yovlad-

Zlieri RmrTisadmi adreuli siyrmidan iyo Sewiruli,

Cveulebad hqonda weliwadSi erTxel benediqtesTan mi-

suliyo. wmida mama mas monastris siaxloves mdgar sax-

lSi xvdeboda. erT dRes da Cveulebisamebr movida.

wmindani mis sanaxavad ZmebTan erTad gamovida. dRe

RmerTis didebaSi, wmida da amaRlebul saubarSi gaata-

res, xolo rodesac mosaRamovda, erTad itrapezes. isi-

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ni jer kidev magidas usxdnen, saamo saubarSi dro Sene-

lebuli eCvenebodaT. am dros wmida dedakacma benediq-

tes vedreba dauwyo: `nu damtoveb am RamiT; dilamde vi-

saubroT zeciuri cxovrebis sixarulze~. man miugo:

`dao, ras ambob? monastris gareT ver davrCebi~. am

dros ca sruliad mowmendili iyo da erTi Rrublis

naglejic arsad Canda. RmrTismoSiSma dedakacma Zmisgan

uari rom gaigo, xelebi magidaze daawyo da yovladZli-

eri RmerTis mimarT locvisaTvis Tavi xelebze daxara.

rodesac Tavi aswia, gaielva, Weqa-quxili atyda da ise-

Ti kokispiruli wvima wamovida, rom verc benediqtem,

verc masTan myofma Zmebma fexi ver moicvales iqidan,

sadac isxdnen. amgvarad, RmrTismoSiSma dedakacma Tavis

daxrisas uxvad daRvara cremli, romelmac mowmendili

ca sawvimrad gadaaqcia da Tanac ara imgvarad, rom wvima

locvidan ramdenime xanSi wamosuliyo, aramed locva

da TqeSi imdenad erTdrouli iyo, rom rodesac Tavi

wamoswia, ukve quxda da wvimda. wmida mosagrem rom ixi-

la, wvimisa da Weqa-quxilis gamo monasterSi ver dab-

rundeboda, mwuxared daiCivla: `Segindos yovladZli-

erma RmerTma, es ra Caidine?~ dam ki miugo: `aha, Sen

gTxove, magram ar ismine; Cems RmerTs SevTxove _ da man

Seismina Cemi. Tuki SeZleb, gamodi gareT, me gamacile da

monasterSi dabrundi~. magram es SeuZlebeli iyo da be-

nediqte Tavisi nebis sawinaaRmdegod iq darCa. amgvarad,

mTeli Rame ifxizles, sulier cxovrebaze isaubres da

urTierTs aamebdnen. amitom vTqvi, rom iyo iseTi ram,

rac mas surda, magram ver miiRo. Rirsi mamis gulis-

sityvebidan gamomdinare cxadia, rom mas surda ca iseve

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yofiliyo mowmendili, rogorc dasTan Sexvedris Jams

iyo, magram misi survilis sawinaaRmdego ram moxda, de-

dakacis sulma yovlisSemZle RmerTis ZaliT saswauli

aRasrula. gasakviri ar aris, rom im dros umetesis aR-

sruleba dedakacma SeZlo, romelsac Zmis xilva didi

xnis manZilze surda, radgan wmida ioanes sityviT

`RmerTi siyuaruli ars~ (1 ioan. 4, 16). am marTali

msjavris mixedviT, umetesis aRsruleba iman SeZlo, vi-

sac meti siyvaruli hqonda.

petre: gamogitydebi, Senma monaTxrobma damipyro.

Tavi ocdameToTxmete

dis suli, romelic wmida benediqtem sxeulidan

gasvlis Jams ixila

grigoli: meore dRes Rirsi dedakaci Tavis senakSi

dabrunda, wmida mama ki monasters daubrunda. sami dRis

Semdeg monasterSi myofma benediqtem Tvalebi zecad

aRapyro da Tavisi dis suli dainaxa, romelsac sxeuli

daetovebina da mtredis saxiT zecad maRldeboda. wmin-

danma dis aseTi didebiT ganixara, yovladZlier RmerTs

samadlobeli himnebi da Sesxmebi aRuvlina da amis Sesa-

xeb Zmebs acnoba. Semdeg isini gagzavna, raTa misi sxeu-

li monasterSi gadmoesvenebinaT da im saflavSi Caesve-

nebinaT, romelic TavisTvis hqonda momzadebuli. amgva-

rad, am moRvaweTa gonebani SeerTebuli iyo uflis mier

da maTi sxeulebic erTad daimarxnen.

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Tavi ocdameTxuTmete

mTeli qveyniereba, romelic wmindans Tvalwin

warmoudga, da qalaq kapuis episkopos germanes su-

lis Sesaxeb

kampaniis olqSi patric liberis mier agebuli monas-

tris diakvani da winamZRvari, saxelad serbandi, wmida

benediqtes monasters masTan saubris mizniT xSirad

stumrobda. zeciur swavlebas es moRvawec uxvad war-

moadenda da amgvarad, urTierTs maradiuli cxovrebis

Sesaxeb tkbili saubrebiT aRavsebdnen da guliT zeciu-

ri samSoblos sazrdels ixmevdnen, romliT tkboba

srulad ar SeeZloT. rodesac Zilis dro dgeboda, mo-

nastris koSkis zeda nawilSi Rirsi benediqte adioda,

xolo qveviT diakvani serbandi isvenebda. koSkis am or

nawils kibe aerTebda. koSkTan mdebare sadgomSi maTi

mowafeebi Tavsdebodnen. erTxel, rodesac Zmebs jer ki-

dev eZinaT, benediqte SuaRamian locvaze dadga da yov-

lisSemZle RmerTis mimarT sarkmlis win loculobda.

uecrad, SuaRamis sibneleSi, man naTeli ixila, rome-

lic ise kaSkaSebda, rom Rame dReze ufro metad ganaT-

da. naTebas uaRresad saocari movlena mohyva: mTeli

qveyniereba, rogorc Semdeg Tavad hyveboda, mis Tval-

win TiTqos mzis erT sxivSi moikriba. Rirsma mamam zeci-

uri naTlis sikaSkaSes yuradRebiT mihxeda da cecxlo-

van cialSi kapuis episkopos germanes suli ixila, ro-

melsac angelozebi zecad miabrZanebdnen. wmindanma

isurva saswaulis mxilveli sxvac yofiliyo da ser-

bands xmamaRla mouxmo, misi saxeli orjer da samjer

gaimeora. wmida mamis uCveulo Zaxilma serbandi myisve

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gaaRviZa, zeviT avida, Sexeda da naTlis mxolod mcire-

di nawili ixila. saswaulma is gaaoca, wmindanma ki Ta-

namimdevrulad mouTxro, rac moxda da dauyovnebliv

gagzavna brZaneba kasinos monasterSi RmrTismosav Te-

oprobesTan, romelsac daavala, imave RamiT qalaq kapu-

aSi vinme gaegzavna imis gasagebad, Tu ra daemarTa epis-

kopos germanes da misTvis ecnobebina. wargzavnils epis-

koposi germane micvalebuli daxvda. rodesac gamoikiT-

xa, aRmoCnda, rom is swored im dros aResrula, rode-

sac wmida benediqtem zecad aRmavali ixila.

petre: sakvirveli da friad gansacvifrebeli Sem-

Txvevaa. magram sityvebi, rom benediqtes TvalTa winaSe

mTeli qveyniereba mzis erT sxivSi moikriba, CemTvis ga-

ugebaria, radgan msgavsi ram arsad aravis ganucdia; anu

gonebiT ver vwvdebi, rogor SeiZleboda erT adamians

mTeli qveyniereba exila.

grigoli: mtkiced gwamdes, petre, is, razec gesaub-

rebi: Semoqmedis mWvreteli sulisTvis yoveli qmnile-

ba mcirea. vinc Semoqmedis naTels Tund nawilobriv

ixilavs, misTvis yoveli qmnileba knindeba imitom, rom

Sinagani xedvis naTeli gonebis Tvalsawiers ganavrcobs

da mas uflis madlis SewevniT imdenad ganfens, rom go-

neba samyaros zemoT aRitaceba; mWvretelis suli Tavis

Tavzec maRldeba. xolo rodesac saRmrTo naTelSi Ta-

vis Tavze maRla aRitaceba, im dros misi Zala mis qveviT

myof samyaroze metad ganivrcoba da, rodesac qveviT

yovelives Wvrets, xvdeba, raoden kninia is, rasac dam-

crobil mdgomareobaSi yofnisas ver Seicnobda. amgva-

rad, wmida mama, romelic cecxlovan sferos Sescqero-

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da da TviT zecad aRmaval angelozebs xedavda, ueWve-

lia, amas ver ixilavda, Tu ara saRmrTo naTelSi myofi.

ra aris gasakviri, Tuki Tvalwin mokrebil samyaros xe-

davda is, vinc gonebrivi naTliT aRtacebuli samyaros

gareT imyofeboda? rodesac naTqvamia, rom samyaro mis

TvalTa winaSe Semoikriba, es ar niSnavs, rom ca da de-

damiwa erTgvarad SeikumSa, aramed es RmerTTan aRtace-

buli mWvretelis sulis ganvrcobas niSnavs da am dros

mas RmerTis mTeli qmnilebis xilva ZaluZs. amgvarad,

xorciel TvalTa winaSe gabrwyinebul naTelSi iyo go-

nebis Sinagani naTeli, romelmac adamianisTvis umaRles

sulier zRvarTan aRtacebul mWvretel suls uCvena,

ra viwroa qveviT yovelive.

petre: is, rom Sens naTqvams ver Cavwvdi, CemTvis sa-

sargeblo aRmoCnda: Cemma miuxvedrelobam Seni saubris

gagrZeleba gamoiwvia. radgan yovelive sruliad cxadad

ganmimarte, gTxov davubrundeT Txrobis Tanamimdevro-

bas.

Tavi ocdameTeqvsmete

benediqtes mier monazonTaTvis dawerili ganweseba

grigoli: sayvarelo petre, am Rirsi mamis Sesaxeb

kidev mravali ram msurda momeTxro, magram ramdenime

saswauls vtoveb, radgan viswrafvi sxva mamaTa Rvawlis

Sesaxeb giambo. Tumca msurs icode, rom amgvari saswau-

lebiT saxelganTqmuli moRvawe naTels Tavisi swavle-

biTac hfenda. man monazonTaTvis ganweseba dawera, rome-

lic sicxadiTa da sityvis sinatifiT gamoirCeva. visac

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survili aqvs misi cxovrebis wesi ukeT gaicnos, am gan-

wesebiT yovelives gulisxmayofs, radgan wmindani ve-

rasgziT ver aswavlida imisgan gansxvavebuls, rasac

TviTon aRasrulebda.

Tavi ocdameCvidmete

benediqtes aRsasruli, romelic Zmebis winaSe Tvi-

Ton iwinaswarmetyvela

im wels, rodesac wmida benediqte unda aRsrulebu-

liyo, gardacvalebis dRis Sesaxeb masTan mcxovreb da

agreTve moSorebiT myof ramdenime Zmas amcno. Tanam-

cxovrebT gamoucxada dadumebuliyvnen amis Sesaxeb, xo-

lo moSorebiT myofT amcno, Tu ra niSniT Seityobdnen,

rodesac misi suli sxeuls datovebda. sikvdilamde eq-

vsi dRiT adre wmida benediqtem brZana samaris gaxsna.

amis Semdeg mas cieba stanjavda. ramdenime dRis Semdeg

uZlurebam imZlavra, meeqvse dRes mowafeebs ubrZana

taZarSi waeyvanaT; iq uflis xorcisa da sisxlis zia-

rebiT aRsasrulisTvis moemzada, dauZlurebuli mowa-

feebs eyrdnoboda da xelapyrobiT mdgomma suli locva-

Si ganuteva. im dRes mis or mowafes _ erTs monasterSi

da meores monastridan Sors _ erTnairi xilva hqon-

daT. maT samosiT mofenili da uricxvi kandeliT ganaTe-

buli gza dainaxes, romelic monastridan aRmosavle-

TiT miemarTeboda da zecas uerTdeboda. TiToeuli maT-

ganis winaSe zecidan elvare samosiT mosili kaci war-

modga da ekiTxeboda, visi iyo es gza, romelsac isini

xedavdnen. maT miuges, rom ar icodnen. `es aris gza,

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romliTac RmrTis mier Seyvarebuli benediqte zecad

aRvals~, _ miugo brwyinvale kacma. am niSnis mixedviT

monastridan Sors myofi Zmebi mixvdnen, rom wmindani

aResrula. wmida benediqte netar ioane naTlismcemlis

taZarSi dakrZales, romelic apolonis darRveuli sam-

sxverplos adgilze Tavad aago. mRvimeSi, sadac is adre

cxovrobda, dRemde aResruleba saswaulebi imaTTvis,

vinc am adgils rwmeniTa da locviT mieaxleba.

Tavi ocdameTvramete

gonebaSeryeuli dedakaci, romelic mRvimeSi gani-

kurna

giambob imas, rac axlaxan moxda. erT dedakacs goneba

Seerya da dRe da Rame mTebsa da tye-RreSi daexeteboda.

sadac moqanculobas igrZnobda, iq isvenebda. erT dRes

didi xnis xetialiT daRlili netari mosagris, bene-

diqtes mRvimeSi Sevida ise, rom verafers acnobiereb-

da. diliT iqidan iseTi gonieri gamovida, TiTqos gone-

baSeSlili arc arasdros yofiliyo. amis Semdeg sicoc-

xlis bolomde sruliad janmrTeli iyo.

petre: es xom ar niSnavs, rom wmida mowameni, ro-

gorc zogjer maT saswaulebSi vxedavT, sxeulebiT nak-

leb qvelmoqmedebebs aRasruleben, vidre maT mier dana-

tovari nivTebis meoxebiT da ufro did saswaulebs iq

aRasruleben, sadac maTi wmida sxeulebi ar aris?

grigoli: sadac wmindanTa sxeulebia dakrZaluli,

ueWvelia, rom iq maT SeuZliaT aRasrulon udidesi sas-

waulebi, da es asec aris: vinc maT ganwmendili gonebiT

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mieaxleba, maTze uricxvi saswauli aResruleba. magram

radgan gonebiT umtkicarni SeiZleba Seorguldnen, _

SeuZliaT Tu ara mowameebs, usminon mvedrebelT iq, sa-

dac ar imyofeba maTi sxeulebi, _ amitom aucilebelia,

umetesi saswaulebi maT iq aRasrulon, sadac meryevi

goneba maT myofobaSi daeWvdeba. xolo visi gonebac gan-

mtkicebulia ufalSi, aseTebi Tavisi rwmenis gamo qvel-

moqmedebas miT umetes imsaxureben, radgan kargad ici-

an, rom Tumca mowameTa sxeulebi aq ar imyofeba, magram

isini mzad arian usminon maTdami mvedrebelT. TviT WeS-

maritebam swored mowafeTa rwmenis gasaZliereblad

warmoTqva: `ukueTu me ara warvide, nugeSinis-mcemeli

igi ara movides Tquenda~ (ioan. 16, 7). Tuki cnobilia,

rom suliwmida mudam mamisagan gamovals da Zeze ganis-

venebs, ratom ambobs Ze _ wava imisTvis, rom movides su-

li, romelic Zes arasodes ganSorebia? radgan mowafe-

ebs, romlebic sxeulSi myof ufals xedavdnen, surdaT

marad exilaT is xorcieli TvaliT, amitom samarTlia-

nad iTqva: `ukueTu me ara warvide, nugeSinis-mcemeli

igi ara movides Tquenda~, anu ufro naTlad rom vTqvaT:

`Tuki sxeuls ar davfarav, ver giCvenebT, rogori unda

iyos siyvaruli sulis mimarT da Tuki Cems xilvas sxe-

ulSi ar moakldebiT, Cemdami sulier siyvaruls vera-

sodes iswavliT~.

petre: Sens sityvebs sruliad veTanxmebi.

grigoli: mcire xniT davdumdeT, raTa dumiliT sxva

moRvaweTa saswaulebis TxrobisaTvis Zala movikriboT.

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wig n i m e s a m e

Tavi pirveli

polanis episkoposi pavlini

me yuradReba im mamebis Rvawls mivapyari, vinc uax-

loes warsulSi moRvaweobda da TiTqos sxva saxelgan-

Tqmul wmindanTa saqmeebi sruliad daviviwye, rogoric,

magaliTad, polanis episkopos pavlinis mier aRsrule-

buli saswauli iyo. is saTnoebebiT mraval, CemTvis cno-

bil wmindans aRemata. amitom Zvel wmindanTa Sesaxeb

Txrobas ganvagrZob da SeZlebisdagvarad mokled gad-

mogcem. Cveulebriv, keTilmoRvawe kacTa saqmeebi, upir-

veles yovlisa, im adamianTaTvis xdeba cnobili, vinc

maT miemsgavseba. Cveni berebisTvis, romlebic wmindanTa

mimbaZvelni arian, polanis keTilmoRvawe episkoposis

didebuli saxeli kargad aris cnobili. misi sakvirve-

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li Rvawli maTTvis samagaliToa. amitom maT sruliad

vendobi, TiTqos maTi monaTxrobi sakuTari TvaliT me-

naxos.

rodesac italiaze vandalTa sastiki Semosevis Sem-

deg kampania sruliad ukacrieli gaxda da am qveynis

mravali mcxovrebi afrikaSi waiyvanes, RmrTis mona pav-

lini Ratakebsa da tyveebs saepiskoposos qonebas uxvad

urigebda. erTxel, rodesac mTxovnelTaTvis aRarafe-

ri hqonda darCenili, masTan erTi qvrivi dedakaci mivi-

da da uambo, rom vandalTa mefis siZem misi vaJi tyved

waiyvana. qali RmrTis kacs evedreboda, misTvis gamosas-

yidi mieca, raTa misi Svilis batons, Tuki gamosasyidis

miRebaze daTanxmdeboda, vaJi saxlSi daebrunebina.

RmrTis kacma Zebna daiwyo, rom mTxovnelisTvis raime

mieca, magram sakuTari Tavis garda araferi hqonda da

uTxra: `araferi maqvs, rom mogce, wamiyvane da Tqvi,

rom Seni mona var da Svili rom dagibrunon, mis nac-

vlad Cemi Tavi mieci monad~. dedakacma episkoposis sit-

yvebi ufro dacinvad miiRo, vidre Tanalmobad. magram

pavlinma, romelic mWevrmetyveli da saero mecniere-

bebSi friad ganswavluli kaci iyo, dedakaci swrafad

daarwmuna Tavisi sityvebis WeSmaritebaSi, rom Svilis

sanacvlod gamosasyidis saxiT episkoposi mieyvana. am-

gvarad, isini afrikaSi gaemgzavrnen. iq dedakacma van-

dalTa mefis siZe moZebna da sTxovda, misTvis Svili da-

ebrunebina. amayma barbarosma, romelic droebiTi bed-

nierebiT qedmaRlobda, ara Tu Txovnis Sesruleba, misi

mosmenac ar isurva. maSin qvrivma uTxra: `monis sanac-

vlod am adamians dagitoveb, oRond Semiwyale _ damib-

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rune dediserTa Svili~. barbarosma moxuc pavlins ga-

daxeda da hkiTxa, raime xeloba Tu icoda. `araviTari

xeloba ar vici, _ miugo pavlinma, _ magram baRis movla

SemiZlia~. barbaross eama, rom pavlini gamocdili meba-

Re iyo da monad daitova, xolo qvriv dedakacs Tavisi

vaJi daubruna. isini samSobloSi gaemgzavrnen, xolo

pavlinma baRis movlas mihyo xeli. mefis siZe iq xSirad

midioda, mebaRes kiTxvebs aZlevda da misi sibrZne Seic-

no. masTan saubari imdenad siamovnebda, rom amisTvis me-

gobrebsa da nacnobebs xSirad tovebda. pavlins batonis

sufrisTvis yoveldRiurad axali da surnelovani mwva-

nileuli mihqonda, dRiur sarCos miiRebda da isev saq-

mes ubrundeboda. sakmao xani gavida. erTxel pavlinma

gulaxdil saubarSi batons uTxra: `vandalTa mefe Za-

lian male mokvdeba. Sen winaswar gmarTebs ifiqro, ro-

gor moiqce da warmarTo samefo~. radgan batoni mefis

keTilganwyobilebiT sargeblobda, misTvis arc dauma-

lavs, rac brZeni mebaRisgan Seityo. mefem es rom gaigo,

siZes uTxra: `msurs es adamiani, vis Sesaxebac miambob,

TviTon vnaxo~. `mas, rogorc wesi, Cemi sufrisTvis axa-

li mwvanili moaqvs, _ upasuxa siZem, pavlinis droebiT-

ma batonma, _ vubrZaneb, rom mwvanili Sen mogitanos sa-

dilze da mas amgvarad naxav~. asec moiqcnen. pavlinma

mefes sadilze Tavis baRSi moweuli mwvanili miarTva.

mefem dainaxa Tu ara pavlini, Zrwola daeufla, Tavis

siZes mouxmo da saidumlo gaando: `am adamianma simar-

Tle giTxra. wuxel vixile, rom sasamarTloSi mosa-

marTleebi Cems gasasamarTleblad Sekrebiliyvnen. maT

Soris es adamianic (pavlini) iyo. maTi gadawyvetilebiT

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maTraxi, romelic manamde mqonda, CamomerTva. hkiTxe

vin aris, ar mgonia, rom ubralo adamiani iyos, rogorc

garegnulad Cans~. mefis siZem pavlini moixmo da faru-

lad daekiTxa, vin iyo. `Seni mona var, romelic qvrivis

vaJis sanacvlod aiyvane~, _ upasuxa RmrTis kacma. mag-

ram batoni daJinebiT sTxovda eTqva, vin iyo is samSob-

loSi da amis Sesaxeb araerTxel hkiTxa. RmrTis monam

veRar dafara da iZulebuli Seiqna gaemxila, rom epis-

koposi iyo. amis gagonebaze batons Zlier SeeSinda da

pavlins mdablad sTxova, yovelive moeTxova, rac auci-

lebeli iqneboda samSobloSi pativiT mis dasabruneb-

lad. `erTaderTi sikeTe SegiZlia gaakeTo CemTvis, _

uTxra RmrTis mona pavlinma, _ tyveobidan CemTan er-

Tad yvela Cemi Tanamemamule gaaTavisufle~. Rirsi pav-

linis survilis Sesasruleblad myisve mTel afrikaSi

moZebnes tyveebi da masTan erTad puriT datvirTuli

xomaldebiT gaamgzavres. ramdenime dRis Semdeg vandal-

Ta mefe gardaicvala da maTraxi, romelic RmerTis

daSvebiT hqonda micemuli morwmuneTa gansaswavlad,

sxvas gadaeca. amgvarad, yovelive ise aResrula, ro-

gorc yovlisSemZle RmrTis mona pavlinma iwinaswar-

metyvela. man nebayoflobiT monoba itvirTa da mravali

adamiani ixsna, radgan mas hbaZavda, vinc monis saxe Sei-

mosa, raTa codvaTa monobisagan Cven gamovexseniT. misi

mibaZviT, pavlini droebiT tyved iqmna, raTa momavalSi

sxvebTan erTad Tavisufleba mieRo.

petre: rodesac Sevityve cxovreba adamianisa, rom-

lis mibaZva ar ZalmiZs, verafers vambob, mxolod SemiZ-

lia vitiro.

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grigoli: pavlinis aRsrulebis Sesaxeb werilobiTi

cnobebi misma eklesiam Semoinaxa. is sneulebiT Zlier

dauZlurda da rodesac aResruleboda, uecrad miwis-

Zvra moxda. sneulis sareceli Seirya, saxli ki uZravad

idga. yvela iq myofi uCveulo SiSma moicva. pavlinis

wmida suli mis sxeuls eyreboda.

is, rac pavlinis Sesaxeb giambe, ufro metad wmindan-

Ta Sinagan saTnoebas warmoaCens, xolo axla garegan

saswaulebs mogiTxrob, romlebic mravalTaTvis aris

cnobili da iseTi RmrTismoSiSi adamianebisgan Sevit-

yve, rom maT sityvebSi ar SemiZlia eWvi Sevitano.

Tavi meore

wmida papi ioane

erTxel, guTebis batonobis Jams, netari ioane _ ro-

mis eklesiis pirvelierarqi _ imperator iustiniane

ufross eaxla. korinTos midamoebSi gzis gasagrZeleb-

lad aucilebeli gaxda cxenis moZieba. amis Sesaxeb er-

Tma didebulma gaigo, ioanes maSinve cxeni SesTavaza,

mxolod erTi pirobiT, rom rogorc ki pirvelierarqi

iseT adgils miaRwevda, sadac sxva cxenis Sovna iqnebo-

da SesaZlebeli, es cxeni ukan unda daebrunebina, rad-

ganac is imdenad Tvinieri iyo, rom masze mudam misi co-

li mgzavrobda. ioanem rogorc ki miaRwia erT-erT da-

bas, misTvis sxva cxeni moiZies, pirveli ki ukanve gag-

zavnes. didebulis colma moindoma cxenze Sejdoma, mag-

ram ver moaxerxa: cxeni saSinlad xvixvinebda, aqeT-

iqiT awydeboda da SfoTavda, TiTqos ambobda, rom aRar

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surs pirvelierarqis Semdeg dedakaci Seisvas. rodesac

didebuli amas mixvda, umal brZana cxeni ioanesTvis mi-

egvaraT da umorCilesad sTxovda, TavisTvis daetovebi-

na igi, risi uflebac man masze mgzavrobiT moipova. be-

rebi ioanes Sesaxeb kidev erT saswauls hyvebian. rode-

sac is konstantinopolis e. w. oqros karibWes uaxlov-

deboda da uamravi xalxi Seegeba, man yvelas Tvalwin

erT brmas xelis SexebiT TvalisCini daubruna da misi

Tvalebidan wyvdiadi ganagdo.

Tavi mesame

wmida papi aRapite

ramdenime wlis Semdeg romis eklesiis pirvelierarq

aRapites guTebis saqmesTan dakavSirebiT imperator

iustinianesTan mouxda gamgzavreba. is ukve saberZneTSi

imyofeboda, rodesac dauZlurebuli munji mihgvares.

mas araTu laparaki, fexze wamodgomac ki ar SeeZlo.

rodesac naTesavebma cremliT warudgines pirvelie-

rarqs sneuli, RmrTis mona aRapite daekiTxa, hqondaT

Tu ara mtkice rwmena imisa, rom sneuli ganikurneboda.

maT mswrafl warmoTqves, rom mtkiced swamdaT, sneuli

gamojanmrTeldeboda RmrTis ZaliTa da wmida mociqul

petres SewevniT. netarma aRapitem myisve saRmrTo li-

turgia aRavlina da sneulisTvis gulmodgined iloca.

saRmrTo liturgiis dasrulebis Semdeg taZridan gamo-

vida, davrdomils xeli mohkida da iq myofTa Tvalwin

fexze wamoayena, xolo rodesac qristes wmida xorcsa

da sisxls aziara, damunjebuli ena myisve ganixsna. am

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saswaulis mxilvelni, romelic wmida aRapitem Rmer-

Tis ZaliTa da wmida mociqul petres SewevniT aRasru-

la, gaocdnen: maT sulebs keTilkrZaluli SiSi daeuf-

la, xolo cremli maT sixaruls gamoxatavda.

Tavi meoTxe

mediolanis episkoposi daci

imave imperatoris mefobis Jams mediolanis episkopo-

si daci sarwmunoebriv saqmeTa gamo konstantinopolSi

gaemgzavra. korinTos rom miaRwia, dasasveneblad did

saxls eZebda, sadac mxleblebTan erTad moTavsdeboda.

TavSesafari didxans ver naxes. dacim Soridan erTi

saxli SeniSna, romelic sakmaod didi iyo da brZana mis-

Tvis da mxleblebisTvis moemzadebinaT. magram qalaqis

mcxovreblebma uTxres, rom am saxlSi dadgoma SeuZle-

beli iyo, radgan iq ramdenime welia arawmida suli Ca-

saxlebuliyo da amis gamo ukacrieli iyo. `am saxlSi

swored imitom unda davsaxldeT, _ Tqva Rirsma dacim,

_ rom iq arawmida sulia Casaxlebuli da aravis uS-

vebs~. is uZveles mterTan sabrZolvelad mSvidad Sevi-

da. Ramis siwynareSi, rodesac RmrTis monas eZina, bo-

rotma sxvadasxva mxecis xmiT daiwyo yvirili: lomiviT

Rrialebda, cxvariviT bRaoda, viriviT yroyinebda, gve-

liviT sisinebda, RoriviT Rrutunebda da TagviviT

wripinebda. am xmebis gagonebaze dacis gaeRviZa, myisve

wamodga da eSmaks xmamaRla mrisxaned mimarTa: `wyeu-

lo, rac daimsaxure is dagemarTa; Sen, romelic iqado-

di: CrdiloeTiT davidgam taxts da uzenaess mivemsgav-

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sebi, ampartavnebis gamo Rorebsa da Tagvebs mimsgavsebi-

xar da Sen, romelic gakadnierdi da RmerTis mimsgavse-

ba isurve, axla sruliad Rirseulad cxovelebs baZav~.

am sityvebis gagonebaze arawmida suli Tavisi uRirse-

biT Sercxvenili iqna, radgan winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi

saxls ar datovebda, sadac sxvadasxva sazarel saxes

iRebda. amgvarad, mas Semdeg, rac im saxlSi WeSmariti

morwmune Sevida, arawmida da cru suli iqidan myisve

ganvarda da mas Semdeg iq qristianebi dasaxldnen. Tum-

ca davtovoT Zveli dro da mogiTxrob, Tu ra moxda

Cvens droSi.

Tavi mexuTe

kanuzis episkoposi sabini

ramdenime RmrTismoSiSi adamiani, romlebic mTel

apuleis mxareSi iyvnen cnobilni, kanuzis episkopos sa-

binis Sesaxeb mogviTxroben (rac Soreul mxareebSic

cnobili gaxda), rom man xandazmulobaSi TvalisCini

dakarga da verafers xedavda. guTebis mefe totilam ga-

igo, rom mas winaswarmetyvelebis niWi hqonda, ar ir-

wmuna da moisurva amaSi Tavad darwmunebuliyo. erTxel

im mxareSi mgzavrobda, sadac sabini episkoposobda.

RmrTis monam mefe trapezze miiwvia. rodesac sufras-

Tan unda damsxdariyvnen, mefem ar moisurva trapezis

TavSi jdoma, aramed Rirs sabins marjveniT moujda.

rodesac moaxlem sabins Rvinis sasmisi moarTva, mefem

uCumrad gamoarTva da episkoposs TviTon miawoda, sur-

da enaxa, winaswarmcnobelobis madliT Seityobda Tu

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ara episkoposi, vin miawoda sasmisi. `am mTavris xelma

icocxlos!~ _ Tqva RmrTis monam da sasmisi gamoarTva,

Tumca ar uxilavs vin miawoda igi. wmindanis sityvebma

mefe kidec Searcxvina, radgan misi urwmunoeba amxila

da amave dros gaaxara, radgan is gacxadda, rasac

RmrTis kacSi eZebda. RmrTismoSiSma sabinma Rrma moxu-

cebulobamde icocxla. erT-erTi misi mTavardiakonTa-

gani pativmoyvareobis gulisTqmiT iyo Sepyrobili da

surda sabinis Semdeg saepiskoposo kaTedra daekavebina.

man gadawyvita episkoposis sicocxle SxamiT Seewyvita,

risTvisac Rvinismwde moisyida da daiyolia, rom sabi-

nisTvis Sxamnarevi Rvino mierTmia. rodesac sadilobis

dro dadga da episkoposi sufras miujda, mosyidulma

msaxurma mTavardiakonis momzadebuli mowamluli sas-

meli miarTva. `TviTon Sesvi is, rac momimzade~, _ uT-

xra mas RmrTismosavma episkoposma. msaxuri akankalda,

radgan amxiles da gadawyvita Seesva Sxami da momkvda-

riyo, vidre ganzrax mkvlelobisTvis sasjels daqvem-

debareboda. magram, rogorc ki sasmisi pirTan miitana,

RmrTis monam SeaCera da uTxra: `ar dalio, momeci, me

davlev. Sen ki wadi da vinc es Sxami mogca, imas uTxari,

rom me Sevsvi, magram TviTon episkoposi ver gaxdeba~.

man jvari gamoisaxa da sasmisi mSvidad Sesva. mTavardi-

akoni, romelic sul sxvagan imyofeboda, imave wams gar-

daicvala. TiTqos Sxami, romelic episkoposma Sesva,

damnaSavis wiaRSi aRmoCnda, magram mTavardiakoni xi-

lulma Sxamma ki ar mokla, aramed maradiuli msajulis

winaSe misive borotebis Sxamma mouRo bolo.

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petre: sakvirvelia da friad gansacvifrebeli Cvens

droSi amgvari saqmeebi. TviT am wmindanis cxovrebis

ganxilva gviCvenebs, rom SeuZlebelia ar gikvirdes mis

mier aRsrulebul saqmeTa sidiade.

Tavi meeqvse

narnis episkoposi kasi

grigoli: ver davdumdebi, petre, imis Sesaxeb, rasac

qalaq narnidan mosuli ramdenime adamiani adasturebs.

aseve guTebis batonobis Jams ukve xsenebuli mefe toti-

la qalaq narnSi yofnisas am qalaqis episkopos, RmrTis-

mosav kass Sexvda. mas saxeze bunebrivi siwiTle dah-

kravda, magram mefe totilam ifiqra, rom es siwiTle

bunebrivi ki ar iyo, aramed _ mudmivi memTvraleobis

Sedegi da episkoposs Seuracxmyofelad eqceoda. maSin

yovlisSemZle RmerTma, rom eCvenebina, rogor adamians

Seuracxyofdnen, amgvari ram dauSva. narnis velze, me-

fis TandaswrebiT mTeli jaris Tvalwin, boroti suli

mefis erT-erT saWurvelTmtvirTvels ekveTa da sasti-

ki wameba dauwyo. mefis TandaswrebiT is RmrTismoSiS

kass mihgvares. RmrTis monam locva aRavlina, jvari ga-

mosaxa da boroti suli ganagdo, romelic Sepyrobil-

Tan aRarasodes dabrunebula. am droidan mefe RmrTis

kacs guliTad pativs miagebda, romelsac aqamde, mxo-

lod garegnobis gamo yovelgvari Seuracxyofis Rirsad

Tvlida. rodesac mefem misi saTnoeba Seicno, aqamde ama-

yi da sastiki suli moulba.

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Tavi meSvide

fundis episkoposi andria

rodesac did moRvaweTa saqmeebze mogiTxrob, mudam

fundis episkopos andrias mimarT gamovlenili RmrTis

saxiereba magondeba. amiT Cems mkiTxvelebs, vinc sxeuls

TavSekavebiT wvrTnis, gansakuTrebiT vurCevdi ar ga-

kadnierdnen dedakacis siaxloves cxovrebiT, radgan

saSiSia, sulieri dacema ar moxdes imis gamo, rom deda-

kacis siaxlovisas codviani gulisTqma aRiZvreba. giam-

bob utyuar ambavs, romlis mowmec im qveynis TiTqmis

yoveli mcxovrebia. RmrTismosavi andrias cxovreba

mravali saTnoebiT iyo aRsavse. is ubiwo cxovrebas

mkacrad icavda. rodesac episkoposi gaxda, ar undoda

mzrunveloba moeklo erTi enkratisisTvis, romelic

uwin masTan cxovrobda da mtkiced darwmunebulma, rom

isic masaviT siwmindes icavda, neba darTo masTan darCe-

niliyo. adamianTa uZvelesma mterma (eSmakma) moisurva

esargebla amiT, raTa andrias sulSi sacduris SesaRwe-

vad Sesasvleli gaeRo. episkoposis gonebas mudmivad

warmoudgenda am dedakacis saxes da arawmida gulis-

Tqmebi mas sarecelzec ar tovebda.

erTxel erTma iudevelma, romelic romSi miemgzav-

reboda, apiaSi gaiara. rodesac fundis mTebs miaRwia,

ukve saRamovdeboda da TavSesafari rom versad naxa, Ta-

vi apolonis samsxverplos Seafara. eSmakTa sacxovre-

belma SiSi mohgvara da pirjvari gamoisaxa, Tumca

jvris Zala srulebiT ar swamda. Sua RamiT, rodesac

Ramis siCume SiSs hgvrida da ar eZina, uecrad dainaxa,

rom samsxverplosTan uamravi boroti suli movida,

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romlebic TavianT mbrZanebels amalasaviT mohyvebod-

nen. is, vinc maT Soris mTavars hgavda, samsxverplos

SuaSi dajda da yovel Tanmxlebs ekiTxeboda, Tu ras

saqmianobda. mas ainteresebda, maTgan TiToeulma ramde-

ni boroteba Caidina. yoveli gamokiTxuli boroti suli

hyveboda, keTilismoqmed adamianebs riTi acdunebda.

Semdeg mis winaSe is wardga, vinc episkopos andrias mo-

wese dedakacis saxis warmodgeniT xorciel brZolas

aRuZravda. maTi mTavari am cnobas xarbad ismenda da yo-

veli wvrilmani mniSvnelovnad miaCnda, radganac boro-

ti suli warmwymedeli dacemisaken wmida kacs misdrek-

da. amave dros sulma aRiara, rom jerjerobiT araferi

gamouvida, garda imisa, rom guSin saRamos episkoposi

aRZra, monazons vnebianad Sexeboda. maSin borotma sul-

ma, kacTa modgmis uZvelesma mterma, mas darwmuneba da-

uwyo, dawyebuli saqme daesrulebina da pirvelobis

palmis rtos dahpirda. iq myofma iudevelma es yovelive

cxadad naxa, magram SiSis zari maSin daeca, rodesac

mTavarma brZana gaegoT, vin gabeda maT samsxverploSi

gaeTia Rame. boroti sulebi iudevels miuaxlovdnen,

kargad daakvirdnen da naxes, rom is jvris niSiT iyo

gareSemozRuduli da SeSinebulebma SesZaxes: `hoi, es

carieli, dabeWdili WurWelia!~ am sityvebis Semdeg

borot sulTa simravle gaqra. iudeveli myisve adga da

episkoposTan gaeSura. is am dros taZarSi iyo. iude-

velma mRvdelmTavari gverdze gaixmo da daekiTxa, gan-

sakuTrebiT romeli brZola awuxebda. episkoposs Tqma

erideboda. maSin iudevelma uTxra, rom is enkratisis

mimarT arawmida siyvaruliT itanjeboda, magram epis-

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koposi mainc ar gamotyda. amis Semdeg iudevelma uTxra:

`ratom ar aRiareb imas, ris Sesaxebac gekiTxebi? guSin

imgvari brZola ar gqonda, rom gakadnierdi da enkra-

tiss vnebianad Seexe?~ am sityvebiT mxilebulma episko-

posma mdablad aRiara yovelive, rasac aqamde jiutad

uaryofda. iudevels surda misi siwminde dacemisagan

exsna da mouTxro, rogor Seityo amis Sesaxeb borot

sulTa krebaze. maSin episkoposi sinanuliTa da locviT

miwaze daemxo da Tavisi sacxovreblidan ara marto is

enkratisi ganiSora, aramed _ sxva morCili dedakace-

bic. apolonis samsxverplos adgilas man wmida mociqul

andrias taZari aago da xorcieli brZolisagan sruli-

ad gaTavisuflda. xolo iudeveli, romelmac amxila da

Tavisi xilviT ixsna, maradiuli xsnis gzaze daayena,

naTlisRebis wyalSi ganbana da wmida saidumloTa meoxe-

biT wmida eklesiis wiaRSi miiRo. amgvarad, am ebraelma

sxvis xsnaze zrunviT xsna TavisTvisac moipova da yov-

lisSemZle RmerTma mas saTno cxovrebisaken swored

imiT mouwoda, rac sxvisi saTnoebis dacvas emsaxura.

petre: mosmenili SiSsa da sasoebas aRmiZravs.

grigoli: mudam gvmarTebs vsasoebdeT RmerTis Cven-

dami mowyalebas da vZrwodeT Cveni uZlurebis gamo. aha,

gavigeT, samoTxis kedari rogor Seirya, magram ver aR-

moifxvra, raTa CvenSi, romlebic umtkicarni varT, mi-

si ryevis gamo SiSi iSvas, da sasoeba _ misi simtkicis

gamo.

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Tavi merve

akviniumis episkoposi konstanci

qalaq akviniumSi episkoposad iyo vinme konstanci,

romelic RmrTismoSiSebiT cxovrobda. is cota xniT

adre gardaicvala, vidre kaTedraze Cemi winamorbedi,

netarxsenebuli papi ioane avidoda. vinc konstancis ax-

los icnobda, ambobs, rom mas winaswarmetyvelebis niWi

hqonda. sxvaTa Soris, ai, ras gadmogvcemen TviTmxilve-

lebi, kacni marTalni da RmrTismoyvareni. konstancis

aRsrulebis dRes, rodesac mis siaxloves uamravi dam-

wuxrebuli adamiani idga, rogorc mosiyvarule mamis

damkargavi Svilebi, ramdenime maTgani cremlmoreviT

daekiTxa: `vin Segvicvlis Sens Tavs, mamao?~ _ `Cems

Semdeg~, _ upasuxa winaswarmetyvelebiT konstancim, _

Tqveni episkoposi mexre iqneba, xolo imis Semdeg memau-

de. vai Sen, akvinium, rom es dRe mogelis!~ am winaswar-

metyvelebis gamoTqmis Semdeg konstanci aResrula.

marTlac, misi gardacvalebis Semdeg, samwyemso mzrun-

veloba eklesiaze misma diakvanma, andriam itvirTa, ro-

melic erT dros cxenebis gamreki iyo. andrias gardac-

valebis Semdeg episkoposis Rirseba ioanes ergo, rome-

lic imave qalaqSi adre memaude iyo. ioanes mmarTvelo-

bis xanaSi imdeni adamiani moisra barbarosTa maxviliT

da JamianobiT, rom misi sikvdilis Semdeg aRaravin dar-

Ca Sesaferisi, rom episkoposad aerCiaT da an visTvis

unda aerCiaT. amgvarad, RmrTis saTno mosagris winas-

warmetyveleba, rom ori mosaydris Semdeg misi eklesia

mwyemsis gareSe darCeboda, aRsrulda.

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Tavi mecxre

lukis episkoposi frigdiane

imasac giambob, Tu ra Sevityve oriode dRis win Rir-

si benancisgan, romelic luniis episkoposi iyo. misi

olqis mezoblad qalaq lukis eklesiaSi episkoposad sa-

ocrad saTno adamiani, vinme frigdiane iyo. im qveyanaSi

mis mier aRsrulebuli metad uCveulo saswauli TiT-

qmis yvelas axsovs. mdinare abseri, romelic qalaq lu-

kis galavnis siaxloves miedineba, wyaldidobis dros

napirebidan xSirad gadmodioda, mindvrebs tboravda da

naTesebs anadgurebda. im qveynis mcxovrebni zaralde-

bodnen da amis gamo cdilobdnen mdinaris dineba sxva

adgilebisken miemarTaT, magram rogor ar daSvrnen,

mdinares kalapoti ver Seucvales. maSin RmrTis mona

frigdianem patara focxi gaakeTa, mdinaris napirze wa-

iRo da ganmartoebiT locvis Semdeg mdinares ubrZana

gahyoloda, TviTon ki focxiT gzas uCvenebda. mdinarem

kalapoti datova da mas gahyva, is adgilebi ki, sadac

adre miedineboda, sruliad amoSra. axali kalapoti im

mimarTulebiT warmoiqmna, romelic RmrTis monam foc-

xiT mianiSna. mas Semdeg mdinares naTesebisTvis aravi-

Tari ziani ar miuyenebia.

Tavi meaTe

qalaq piaCencas episkoposi sabini

imave Rirsma episkoposma benancim erTi saswaulis Se-

saxeb miambo, romelic qalaq piaCencaSi aResrula. mas

romis amJamindeli prefeqti ioanec adasturebs, alal-

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marTali kaci, romelic daibada da aRizarda piaCencaSi,

rogorc benancisac axsovs. am qalaqSi, rogorc amboben,

episkoposad vinme sabini iyo, romelic sakvirvel cxov-

rebas eweoda. erTxel mas diakvanma amcno, rom mdinare

po adidda, napirebidan gadmovida da eklesiis mindvrebi

dafara. `wadi da mdinares uTxari, _ upasuxa RmrTis-

moSiSma sabinma, _ episkoposi gibrZanebs Sens kalapot-

Si morCilebiT dabrunde~. misi sityvebi diakvans uCveu-

lod da sasacilod eCvena. maSin RmrTis monam gadamweri

moixmo da ubrZana amgvari ram daewera: `ufal ieso

qristes monis, sabinis brZaneba mdinare pos. saxeliTa

uflisa Cvenisa ieso qristesiTa gibrZaneb am midamoebSi

kalapotidan arasodes gadmoxvide da saeklesio min-

dvrebi ar gaanadguro~. `wadi da mdinareSi Caagde~, _

uTxra episkoposma. rogorc ki gadamwerma misi brZaneba

Seasrula, mdinarem saeklesio mindvrebidan daixia, Ta-

vis kalapots daubrunda da is adgilebi aRarasodes da-

utboravs. am SemTxvevaSi, rodesac iesos ZaliT wminda-

nis brZanebas TviT ugunuri stiqiac ki daemorCila, ra

aris gamoxatuli, Tu ara daumorCilebel adamianTa si-

jiute?

Tavi meTerTmete

populenis episkoposi qerboni

Cvens droSi populenis episkoposma, RmrTismosavma

qerbonma, cxovrebis siwmindiT saxeli gaiTqva. is gansa-

kuTrebiT stumarTmoyvareobiT gamoirCeoda. erTxel

man ucxo meomrebi Seifara da ulmobeli guTebis Tav-

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dasxmisgan ixsna. rodesac guTebis usjulo mefe toti-

lam amis Sesaxeb Seityo, ganrisxda da dauokebeli sis-

xlis Rvris surviliT aRZrulma, brZana episkoposi me-

rulaSi, saepiskoposo qalaqidan rva miliT daSorebul

samxedro banakSi mieyvanaT, raTa qerboni xalxis Tval-

win daTvebisTvis dasaglejad miegdoT. sanaxaobaze uam-

ravi xalxi Seikriba, TviT usjulo mefec iq iyo, raTa

episkoposis sikvdilis xilviT damtkbariyo. episkoposi

SuagulSi daayenes da mis dasaglejad gaafTrebuli

daTvi gamouSves. gulficxi totila gansakuTrebuli

siamovnebiT eloda, am adamians daTvi rodis daglejda.

gamZvinvarebuli da damSeuli mxeci galiidan episkopo-

sisken gaqanda, magram uecrad, TiTqos daaviwyda Tavisi

gaafTreba, Tavi dabla daxara, episkoposs miuaxlovda

da fexebis lokva dauwyo, TiTqosda yvelas cxadad uCve-

nebda, rom am RmrTismoSiSi adamianis mimarT cxovelis

guli adamianuri gaxda, xolo adamianTa gulebi, piri-

qiT, gamxecda. Sekrebilma xalxma gakvirveba da krZalva

xmamaRali SeZaxilebiT gamoxata. TviT mefem, Tavisda

uneburad, wmindanis mimarT krZalva igrZno, radgan,

Tumca adre surda uRmerTod waerTmia misTvis sicoc-

xle, amjerad saRmrTo gangebulebiT, cxovelis magali-

TiT simSvideSi ganiswavla. am SemTxvevis ramdenime

TviTmxilveli amJamadac cocxalia da isini adasture-

ben, rac sxvebTan erTad ixiles.

am wmindanis mier aRsrulebuli kidev erTi saswau-

lis Sesaxeb lionis episkoposi miambobda. populenis

episkoposad yofnisas qerbonma brZana misTvis samare

moemzadebinaT, magram italiaze longobardebis gama-

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nadgurebeli Tavdasxmis dros qerboni kunZul elbaze

gadasaxlda. rodesac mZime avadmyofobis gamo sikvdili

mouaxlovda, man klerikosebsa da garSemomyofT ubrZa-

na populenSi momzadebul samareSi daekrZalaT. `im qve-

yanas longobardebi Semoesivnen da mTlianad daikaves,

_ uTxres mas, _ rogor gadavasvenoT Seni cxedari?~

`nurafris SegeSindebaT, _ Tqva episkoposma, _ iq Cemi

cxedari uSiSrad gadaasveneT; magram ecadeT swrafad

damasaflaoT da ukan maSinve, yovelgvari dayovnebis ga-

reSe dabrundeT~. amgvarad, rodesac episkoposi garda-

icvala, misi cxedari xomaldze moaTavses. zRvaze mog-

zaurobis dros caze Rrublebi mogrovda da kokispiru-

li wvima wamovida. TiTqos imis niSnad, Tu ra didi wmin-

danis neSti imyofeboda xomaldze, mTel gzaze, elbidan

populenamde, Tormeti milis manZilze, xomalds wvimis

erTi wveTic ar dascemia, rodesac is qariSxalsa da ko-

kispirul wvimaSi micuravda. amgvarad, klerikosebma

miaRwies populens, episkoposis cxedari miwas miabares

da misi brZanebisamebr xomaldze dauyovnebliv dabrun-

dnen. is iyo xomaldze avidnen, rom episkoposis saflav-

ze longobardebis sastiki mTavari humariti mivida. am-

gvarad, episkoposis brZaneba, rom misi dasaflavebis

Semdeg klerikosebi dauyovnebliv xomaldze dabrunebu-

liyvnen, gviCvenebs, rom mas winaswarmetyvelebis niWi

hqonda mimadlebuli.

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Tavi meTormete

utrikulas episkoposi fulgenci

orad gayofili wvimis saswauli sxva RmrTismosav

episkoposTanac aRsrulda. ai, ra gviambo erTma xandaz-

mulma klerikosma (is amJamadac cocxalia) SemTxvevis

Sesaxeb, romlis TviTmxilvelic Tavad iyo. mrisxane me-

fe totila utrikulas episkopos fulgencis mimarT sa-

Sinel ukmayofilebas gamoxatavda. erTxel, rodesac is

am qveyanas jarTan erTad uaxlovdeboda, episkoposma

mas klerikosTa xeliT ZRveni gaugzavna, raTa saCuqriT

mainc moelbo misi sisastike, magram totilam ZRveni

ugulebelyo da mrisxanebiT anTebulma meomrebs ubrZa-

na, episkoposi daundoblad SeepyroT da gansasjelad

misTvis waredginaT. guTebma, romlebic TavianTi mbrZa-

neblis davalebas asrulebdnen, episkoposi Seipyres, mi-

waze wre Semoxazes, SigniT fulgenci Caayenes da ubrZa-

nes uZravad mdgariyo. guTebis tyveobaSi, mzis gulze

itanjeboda RmrTis saTno mosagre. uecrad ielva, Weqa-

quxili atyda da iseTi kokispiruli wvima wamovida,

rom wmindanis mcvelebma iq dgoma veRar SeZles. miuxe-

davad aseTi uCveulo wvimisa, arc erTi wveTi ar Cavar-

dnila wreSi, sadac wmindani idga. rodesac es gulficx

mefes moaxsenes, mis sastik gulSi episkoposisadmi Rrma

pativiscemis grZnoba aRiZra, romlis daRupvac aseTi

dauokebeli sisastikiT surda. amgvarad amdablebs

RmerTi ampartavan xorciel gonebas, Tavis mSvid moneb-

Si sakuTari Zalis saswaulebrivi gamovleniT. WeSmari-

teba (RmerTi), romelic Tavmdabal adamianebSi moqme-

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debs, ase imorCilebs imaT, vinc mis mcnebaTa winaaRmdeg

Tavs amayad aimaRlebs.

Tavi mecamete

peruzis episkoposi herkulani

axlaxan keTilmsaxuri episkoposi floridi erTi

RirsSesaniSnavi saswaulis Sesaxeb miambobda. qalaq pe-

ruzis episkoposi, _ ambobda floridi, _ iyo uwmindesi

herkulani, Cemi aRmzrdeli. is monasters iqamde winam-

ZRvrobda, vidre episkoposis xarisxSi amaRlda. usju-

lo mefe totilas dros guTebis jars es qalaqi TiT-

qmis Svidi wlis ganmavlobaSi alyaSi hqonda moqceuli.

mravali moqalaqe gaiqca, radgan SimSilobis atana aRar

SeeZlo. Svidi wlis gasvlis Semdeg guTebma alyaSemor-

tymuli qalaqi daipyres. maSin moalye jaris ufrosma

mefes kaci gaugzavna, rom gaego, episkopossa da xalxs

rogor mopyroboda. `episkoposis sxeulidan misi si-

maRlis Tasma gamoWeri da Semdeg Tavi mohkveTe, xolo

qalaqis mcxovrebni maxviliT amowyvite~, _ SeuTvala

totilam. jaris ufrosma RmrTismoyvare episkoposi qa-

laqis galavanze aiyvana, Tavi mohkveTa da amis Semdeg

brZana misTvis tyavi gaeZroT, raTa misgan Tasma gamoeW-

raT, sxeuli ki galavnidan gadaegdoT. maSin zogierTma

RmrTismosavma da gulSematkivarma adamianma episkopo-

sis mokveTili Tavi sxeulTan dado da miwas miabara er-

Ti yrmis cxedarTan erTad, romelic galavnis siaxlo-

ves aRmoaCines. ormocdRiani sisxlisRvris Semdeg mefe

totilam ganacxada, rom im qalaqis mcxovreblebs, rom-

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lebic sxvadasxva mxares mimoifantnen, uSiSrad SeeZ-

loT qalaqSi dabruneba. alyis dros gaqceulma moqala-

qeebma am uflebiT isargebles da uSiSrad iwyes dabru-

neba. maT TavianTi episkoposis saTno cxovreba axsovdaT

da misi saflavis Zebna daiwyes, raTa mRvdelmTavris

cxedari wmida mociqul petres taZarSi pativiT gada-

esvenebinaT. rodesac misi saflavi gaTxares, naxes, rom

yrmis cxedars, romelic episkoposTan erTad dakrZa-

les, ormoci dRis Semdeg xrwna daewyo da matli exvia,

xolo episkoposis sxeuli uxrwnelad esvena, TiTqos

axali dakrZaluli iyo. umetes gakvirvebas is iwvevda,

rom episkoposis Tavi sxeuls imdenad mtkiced Sezrdo-

da, TiTqos mokveTili arc yofiliyo. maxvilis kvalic

arsad emCneoda. Semdeg is gadaabrunes, raTa enaxaT, wa-

mebis niSnebi zurgze xom ar emCneoda, magram sxeuli

sruliad uvnebeli aRmoCnda, TiTqos maxvili arc mihka-

reboda.

petre: vis ar gaakvirvebs amgvari saswauli, rome-

lic micvalebulze aResrula imisTvis, rom cocxlebma

gulisxmayon.

Tavi meToTxmete

RmrTis mona isaaki

qalaq spoletos siaxloves, guTebis batonobis da-

sawyisidan TiTqmis dasrulebamde, cxovrobda vinme isa-

aki, RmrTismosavi kaci. mas mravalni icnoben, maT Soris

aris keTilmsaxuri qalwuli grigoria, romelic amJa-

mad romSi, yovladwmida da maradqalwul mariamis ta-

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ZarTan cxovrobs. is siyrmeSi isaakma taZarSi Seifara,

rodesac gaTxovebas upirebdnen. mas surda monazvnuri

cxovreba daemarxa da RmrTis SewevniT SeZlo. imis ga-

mo, rom miwier saqmros daemala, is Rirsi gaxda sasiZo

zecaSi SeeZina. isaakis Sesaxeb aseve mravali ram Rirs

mama elefTerTan saubarSi Sevityve. is isaaks axlos ic-

nobda, xolo misi RmrTismoSiSeba mis monaTxrobs sar-

wmunos xdis.

RmrTismosavi isaaki warmoSobiT italieli ar iyo,

magram me mis mier italiaSi aRsrulebul saswaulTa

Sesaxeb giambob. rodesac igi siriidan spoletoSi pir-

velad Camovida, taZarSi Sevida da eklesiis msaxurT

sTxova, neba daerToT imden xans eloca, ramdenic moe-

surveboda da RmrTismsaxurebis dros taZridan ar gae-

ZevebinaT. man mTeli dRe da Rame locvaSi gaatara, aseve

ori momdevno dRe da Ramec daucxromelad loculobda.

taZris erT-erTma msaxurTaganma, romelic ampartavne-

bis suliT iyo aRvsili, am SemTxveviT sargeblobis nac-

vlad, mxolod warsawymedeli vneba moimko. man wminda-

nis Sesaxeb xmamaRla da kadnierad daiwyo laparaki,

rom is TvalTmaqci da matyuaraa, sxvebis winaSe Tavis

mowoneba xangrZlivi locviT surs. Semdeg RmrTis mo-

nas mivarda da cema dauwyo, raTa taZridan, rogorc

cru wmindani, Seuracxyofili gaegdo. magram uecrad

mas boroti suli ekveTa, RmrTis kacis ferxTiT dasca

da misi piriT ayvirda: `isaaki ganmdevnis me~. am ucxo

adamianis saxeli aqamde aravin icoda. borotma sulma,

romelic gahyviroda isaaki ganmdevniso, ganacxada misi

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saxeli. RmrTis mona myisve Sepyrobilis sxeulze ga-

nerTxa da boroti suli misgan gandevna.

es ambavi mTel qalaqs maSinve moedo. mdabio da warCi-

nebulma dedakacebma Tavi moiyares da TiToeuli cdi-

lobda wmindani Tavis saxlSi miewvia. erTni mamuls

sTavazobdnen, meoreni _ fuls, sxvebi kidev sxva Sewev-

nas, visac ra SeeZlo da evedrebodnen wmindans es yove-

live monastris mosawyobad gamoeyenebina, magram

RmrTis monam araferi miiRo, qalaqs gaecala, ganmar-

toebuli adgili moZebna da senaki aiSena. mravalni

akiTxavdnen da misi magaliTiT maradiuli cxovrebis sa-

Zieblad aRZrulni RmrTis monas morCilebisa da xel-

mZRvanelobisaTvis Tavs andobdnen. mowafeebi mas xSi-

rad sTxovdnen, marTalia, daJinebiT, magram _ simdab-

liT, rom monastris sargeblobisTvis Semowirulobebi

mieRo, magram is upovarebas fxizlad icavda da mudam

mtkiced pasuxobda, rom `vinc miwier saunjes eZebs, is

monazoni ar aris~. is iseTive sifrTxiliT cdilobda

upovareba daemarxa, rogorc mdidrebi cdiloben daic-

van TavianTi xrwnadi simdidre. monasterSi misi cxov-

rebis dros xma misi winaswarmetyvelebis niWisa da

udidesi saswaulebis Sesaxeb Soreul qveynebSi gav-

rcelda.

erTxel, saRamoxans, man brZana monastris bostanSi

ramdenime bari daetovebinaT: `amdeni da amdeni bari

bostanSi datoveT da ukan saswarafod dabrundiT~, _

uTxra man mowafeebs. imave Rames locvisTvis amdgar

Zmebs ubrZana: `muSakebisTvis SeWamandi moxarSeT, rom

dilaadrian mzad iyos~. diliT ubrZana, SeWamandi bos-

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tanSi waeRoT da ZmebTan erTad iq misuls imdeni muSaki

daxvda, ramdeni baric misi brZanebiT iq datoves. isini

qurdebi iyvnen. rodesac bostanSi Seiparnen, maTi gan-

zraxva, RmerTis zemoqmedebiT, Seicvala: barebi rom na-

xes, aiRes da RmrTis monis mosvlamde Seusveneblad mu-

Saobdnen. maT daumuSaveblad darCenili miwa dabares.

`gamarjobaT, Zmebo! ukve didi xania SromobT. droa, da-

isvenoT!~ _ uTxra maT RmrTis monam. Semdeg motanili

SeWamandi SesTavaza, raTa momqancveli Sromis Semdeg

enugeSaT. rodesac inugeSes, wmindanma uTxra: `boro-

tebas nu CaidenT, rodesac raime dagWirdebaT, karebTan

modiT, mSvidad iTxoveT da kurTxeviT miiRebT, xolo

qurdobisgan Tavi SeikaveT~. Semdeg brZana, maTTvis rac

SeiZleba bevri bostneuli miecaT. amgvarad, bostanSi

boroti ganzraxviT misulni, Tavadac uvnebelni dab-

rundnen da gaweuli SromisaTvis uxvi jildoc miiRes.

sxva dros isaaks mowyalebisaTvis ucxotomelebma mi-

akiTxes, romelTac imdenad dafleTili da dakonkili

samosi ecvaT, rom TiTqmis SiSvlebi iyvnen. maT wmindans

samosi sTxoves, is ki mdumared usmenda. Semdeg erT-er-

Ti mowafeTagani moixmo da farulad ubrZana: `wadi

tyeSi, ama da am adgilas xis fuRuroSi tansacmels na-

xav da moitane~. mowafe wavida, xis fuRuro moZebna,

tansacmeli amoiRo da moZRvars faruladve miutana.

RmrTis saTno mosagrem tansacmeli naxevradSiSvel uc-

xotomelebs misca da uTxra: `TiTqmis SiSvlebi xarT,

es tanisamosi gamomarTviT da CaicviT~. mTxovnelebma

maSinve icnes tyeSi datovebuli TavianTi tansacmeli

da Sercxvenilebi Zrwolam moicva. amgvarad, imaT, vinc

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sicruiT sxvisi samosis mopoveba isurves, Sercxveni-

lebma Tavisive miiRes.

erTxel erTi adamiani wmindanisgan locvas iTxovda

da mas monis xeliT sanovagiT savse ori kalaTi gaugzav-

na. monam erTi kalaTi gzaSi gadamala, xolo meore

RmrTis saTno mosagres miarTva da mas Tavisi patronis

saTxovari moaxsena. RmrTis monam ZRveni siyvaruliT

miiRo, madloba gadauxada da Tan uTxra: `gafrTxildi,

rodesac gzaze gadamalul kalaTs aiReb: masSi gveli Ca-

vida, amitom saSiSia, moulodneli Sexebis gamo ar gik-

binos~. am sityvebma monas Zrwola mohgvara. erTi mxriv,

uxaroda, rom sikvdils gadaurCa, xolo meore mxriv,

danaRvlianda, magram sircxvili man ise aitana, ro-

gorc macxovnebeli sasjeli. rodesac brundeboda, ka-

laTi frTxilad aiRo da rogorc RmrTis kacma uwinas-

warmetyvela, masSi gveli aRmoCnda. amgvarad, es wminda-

ni TavSekavebis saTnoebas, yovelive mswraflwarmava-

lis moZulebas da winaswarmetyvelebis niWs locvisad-

mi araCveulebriv gulmodginebas uerTebda. uCveulo

mxolod erTi ram iyo: is zogjer imdenad mxiarulde-

boda, vinc ar icnobda, verafriT daijerebda, rom udi-

des saTnoebebs flobda.

petre: gTxov, amixseni, es ras niSnavs? is amgvar mxi-

arulebas Tavisi nebiT eZleoda, Tu misi suli, romelic

aseT saTnoebebs flobda, uneburad aRfrTovandeboda

namdvili sixaruliT?

grigoli: didebulia, petre, yovlisSemZle RmerTis

gangebuleba. umTavresad, imgvarad xdeba, rom imaT, vi-

sac RmerTi umaRles sikeTes mihmadlebs, umciress mo-

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aklebs, raTa maT sulebs mudam SeeZloT riTime Tavis

damdableba, raTa, raki iswrafvian srulyofilebisaken

da ver hpoveben, iRvwian imis mosapoveblad, rac ara

aqvT da verc hpoveben sakuTari Sromis Sedegad, Tavi

imiT ar ganididon, rac aqvT, aramed iswavlon, rom sa-

kuTar TavSi mcire da umniSvnelo naklovanebaTa aRmof-

xvrac ki ar ZaluZT da TavisiT ar moupovebiaT umaRle-

si srulyofilebani. swored amitom, rodesac RmerTma

rCeuli eri aRTqmul miwaze Seiyvana, yoveli maTi mte-

ri mosra, mxolod filistimelebi da qanaanelebi dato-

va, radgan rogorc wmida werilSia naTqvami: `surda ga-

moecada israelianebi~ (msaj. 3, 4). amgvarad, rogorc

ukve giTxari, ufali uSvebs, mcire nakli darCes imaT-

Si, visac udides srulyofilebas aniWebs, rom maT hqon-

deT sabrZolveli da ar aimaRlon Tavi Zlieri mtrebis

damarcxebis Semdeg, rodesac jer kidev aSfoTeben usu-

suri mtrebi. ase sakvirvelad erTi da igive suli saT-

noebebSic mtkicdeba da uZlurebiTac SeWirvebulia,

raTa, rom ixilavs, erTi mxriv, keTilgangebulebas Ta-

vis TavSi, xolo, meore mxriv, _ mouwyoblobas, ukmayo-

fileba igrZnos imis gamo, rom ver ikmayofilebs mis-

wrafebas moipovos misTvis miuwvdomeli sikeTe da sim-

dabliT daicvas is, rac aqvs. magram gana sakvirvelia es

adamianSi, rodesac TviT zecis moqalaqeTa nawili dae-

ca, meore nawilma ki simtkice SeinarCuna da TanamoZme-

Ta ampartavnebiT dacemis mxilveli rCeul angelozTa

sulebi umetesad ganmtkicdnen simdableSi. moklebam

rogorc zecaSi moitana sargebloba, radgan misi rRveva

misive maradiuli simtkicis safuZveli gaxda, yovel

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sulSic aseve xdeba: umniSvnelo nakli, rogorc simdab-

lis mcveli, mas udides SenaZenTaTvis ifaravs.

petre: gulsavse var Seni ganmartebiT.

Tavi meTxuTmete

RmrTis monani _ evtiqi da florenci

grigoli: gadmogcem imas, rac Rirsi sanktulasgan

Sevityve. is imave olqSi presviteri iyo. mis monaT-

xrobSi eWvi ar Segepareba, radgan misi RmrTismoSiSi

da marTali cxovrebis Sesaxeb Senc ici.

imave xanebSi nursiis olqis midamoebSi ori monazoni

cxovrobda: evtiqi da florenci. evtiqi sulieri mo-

SurneobiT gamoirCeoda da RmrTis saTno cxovreba

mxurvaled uyvarda. misi umTavresi sazrunavi iyo, rac

SeiZleba meti adamiani moeqcia saTnoebis gzaze. flo-

renci ubralod cxovrobda. misi umTavresi saqmianoba

locva iyo. erTxel maT siaxloves mdebare monasterSi

winamZRvari gardaicvala. monastris Zmebma isurves mis

adgilze evtiqi miewviaT. evtiqim maTi Txovna Seiwynara

da monasters ramdenime weli xelmZRvanelobda, mowa-

feTa sulebs samonazvno cxovrebis mixedviT warmarTav-

da, magram mas ar undoda, rom senaki, sadac uwin cxov-

robda, dacarielebuliyo da neba misca RmrTismoSiS

florencis iq gadasuliyo. florenci erTxel yovlis-

SemZle RmerTs Seevedra, rom misTvis am adgilze dad-

gomisTvis ramenairi Sewevna warmoegzavna. locvis das-

rulebis Semdeg wmindani senakidan gareT gavida da dai-

naxa, rom karis win daTvi idga, Tavi miwisken daexara,

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moZraobiT arafers mxecurs ar avlenda da cxadad mia-

niSnebda, rom RmrTis kacTan morCilebis aRsasruleb-

lad mivida. wmindanma es myisve Seicno. senaks oTxi-xu-

Ti batkani ekuTvnoda, magram maT mwyemsi ar hyavdaT.

`wadi, batknebi saZovarze gadene, _ uTxra wmindanma

daTvs, _ xolo meeqvse Jamze maTTan erTad dabrundi~.

mas Semdeg daTvi mudam mwyemsis movaleobas asrulebda

da es sisxlismsmeli cxoveli cxvrebs mwyemsavda, ro-

melTac manamde musrs avlebda. rodesac RmrTis mona

marxulobda, maSin ubrZanebda daTvs mecxre Jamze dab-

runebuliyo, danarCen dReebSi ki _ meeqvse Jamze. daT-

vic yovelTvis mas emorCileboda: rodesac dabrunebas

mecxre Jamze ubrZanebda, meeqvseze arasodes brundebo-

da, xolo dabruneba Tu meeqvse Jamze hqonda nabrZanebi,

mecxreze ar brundeboda. gavida xani da xma am saswau-

lis Sesaxeb Sors gavrcelda, magram uZvelesi mteri

swored imiT cdilobs boroti adamianebi SuriT mow-

ylas, riTic RmrTis saTno adamiani didebaSi waremate-

ba. RmrTismoSiSi evtiqis oTxma mowafem Zlier SeiZula

florenci imis gamo, rom man, ganmartoebiT mcxovrebma,

imgvari saswaulebiT gaiTqva saxeli, rogorsac maTi

moZRvari evtiqic ki ar aRasrulebda. SeiTqvnen da fa-

rulad daTvi moukles. rodesac florencisTan daniS-

nul dros daTvi ar dabrunda, wmindani Zlier aRelda,

im saRamos eloda, xolo meore dRes daTvis saZebnelad

gaemarTa da mkvdari ipova. gamoZiebis Semdeg Seityo,

daTvi vinc moukla da mwared atirda, is ufro metad

Zmebis gaborotebas iglovda, vidre _ daTvis mokvlas.

RmrTismosavma evtiqim florenci miixmo da misTvis nu-

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geSiscemas cdilobda, magram RmrTis monam, mwuxarebiT

danaRvlianebulma, evtiqis TandaswrebiT Semdegi sit-

yvebi warmoTqva: `mjera, rom yovlisSemZle RmerTi

yvelas Tvalwin, jer kidev am cxovrebaSi miagebs maT

borotebisTvis: maT mokles daTvi, romelsac maTTvis

araferi dauSavebia~. am sityvebis kvaldakval RmerTis

Surisgebamac ar daayovna. oTxive monazons, romlebmac

daTvi mokles, imwamsve keTri SeeyaraT, sxeulebi da-

ulpaT da mokvdnen. rodesac amgvari ram moxda, flo-

renci Zlier SeSinda: mis mier warmoTqmulma ZmaTa gan-

kiTxvam mas SiSi mohgvara. is mTeli cxovreba imis gamo

glovobda, rom RmerTma Seismina misi _ sakuTar Tavs

sastiks uwodebda da ZmaTa sikvdilSi adanaSaulebda.

vfiqrob, yovlisSemZle RmerTma imisTvis dauSva aR-

srulebuliyo amgvari ram, rom florencisTvis, uaRre-

sad alalmarTali kacisTvis, eCvenebina _ TviT udidesi

mwuxarebis Jamsac ki yovelTvis ar SeiZleba ase ganav-

rco sxvaTa gankiTxva.

petre: nuTu ase mZimea gankiTxvis codva, rodesac mas

mrisxanebis Jams warmovTqvamT?

grigoli: rad unda amas kiTxva, rodesac jer kidev

wmida mociquli pavle ambobda: `maginebelTa sasufeve-

li RmrTisaÁ ver daimkvidron~ (1 kor. 6, 10). amdenad,

gansaje, ra mZimea es codva, romelic sasufevels gana-

Sorebs.

petre: adamians ra moeweva, Tuki moyvass ganikiTxavs

ara gaborotebiT, aramed enis SeukaveblobiT?

grigoli: Tuki saSineli msajuli, sayvarelo petre,

yoveli uqmi sityvisTvis ganikiTxavs, maSin boroti

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sityvisTvis xom ufro metad mogvelis gankiTxva? ami-

tom gansaje: Tuki yoveli uqmi sityvisTvis sasjels mi-

viRebT, raoden ufro didi sasjeli mohyveba sityvas,

romelic borotebiT gamoiTqmis?

petre: geTanxmebi.

grigoli: imave wmindanma imgvari ram aRasrula, ris

Sesaxeb SeuZlebelia davdumde. rodesac florencis sa-

xeli Soreul qveynebSi ganiTqva, wmindanTan Soridan

erTi diakvani gamoemgzavra, raTa misgan locva gamoeT-

xova. wmindanis senakis siaxloves myofma, uamravi gveli

dainaxa da SeSinebulma SesZaxa: `iloce, RmrTis mo-

nao!~ florenci senakidan gamovida, xelebi da Tvalebi

zecisken aRapyro da RmerTs Seevedra, qvewarmavlebi

Tavisi nebisaebr moespo. wmindanis vedrebisTanave mexi

Camovarda da iq myofi yvela qvewarmavali daixoca. amis

danaxvaze RmrTis monam SehRaRada: `RmerTo, Sen Semus-

re isini, magram vin gawmends aqaurobas maTgan?~ myisve,

wmindanis mier locvis warmoTqmisTanave, uamravi Citi

mofrinda, TiToeulma TiTo qvewarmavali aitaca da

Sors waiRo. amgvarad, florencis senakis axlos midamo

qvewarmavlebisagan sruliad gaiwminda.

petre: ramdenad saTno da didi unda yofiliyo es

wmindani, rom yovlisSemZle RmerTma misi locva ase

swrafad Seismina!

grigoli: yovlisSemZle RmerTis winaSe, romelic

bunebiT wmidaa, sayvarelo petre, adamianis gulis siw-

mindesa da ubraloebas udidesi Zala aqvs. mxolod imis

gamo, rom misi monebi miwier sazrunavebs ganudgnen,

fuWsityvaoba ganagdes da ar uSveben, rom maTi sxeuli

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codvebiT Seibilwos, maT locvas Zalze xSirad yvelas

winaSe Seismens Semoqmedi, romelTanac (es wmida kace-

bi) daaxloebulni arian imiT, rom miemsgavsebian mas,

rogorc es SesaZlebelia, siwmindiTa da ubraloebiT.

Cven ki mudam adamianur sazrunavebSi veflobiT, uqmad

vmetyvelebT, zogjer Zalian mavnes Tqmasac ar veride-

biT. amitom Cveni sityva RmerTisgan imdenadvea daSore-

buli, ramdenadac am qveyanas uaxlovdeba. mudmivi lapa-

raki droebiTs migvajaWvavs da RmerTisgan gangvaSo-

rebs. wmida esaia winaswarmetyvelma amgvari ram saku-

Tar TavSi samarTlianad amxila da Seinana; rodesac man

ufali ZalTaY ixila, SesZaxa: `O ubadruksa me, rameTu

Sekdemul var, rameTu kacad myofi da arawmidaTa bageTa

mqonebeli~ (es. 6, 5). Semdeg ki daamata: `saSual erisa,

arawmidaTa bageTa mqonebelisa, mkKdr var me~, da amiT

ganmarta, uwminduri bage ratom hqonda. is bageTa uw-

mindurebis gamo wuxda, magram rodesac Tqva, rom uw-

mindur adamianebs Soris cxovrobs, gviCvena, Tu uwmin-

durebas vis daesesxa, radgan Zalian Znelia, rom miwi-

erze saubarma goneba ar Sebilwos. Tavidan umniSvnelo

Cveva CagviTrevs da Tavs uflebas vaZlevT cotaodeni

visaubroT saero sakiTxebze. Semdeg ukve yovlad uRirs

fuWsityvaobas erTgvari siamovnebiTac vagrZelebT, im-

denad, rom bolos Tavs imisganac ki ver vixsniT, ris

uflebasac sakuTar Tavs uwin gatacebis gamo, erTgvari

SemwynareblobiT vaZlevdiT. amgvarad, uqmismetyvele-

bidan mavne sityvebis gamoTqmaze gadavdivarT, msubuqi-

dan _ umZimesze da Cven mier gamoTqmul locvas ufali

miT ufro naklebad Seismens, rac ufro metad Seibil-

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weba is ugunuri uqmismetyvelebiT, radgan wmida weri-

li ambobs: `vinc rjulis mosmenas yurs aridebs, misi

locvac ki sibilwea~ (igav. 28, 9). ra aris imaSi gasakvi-

ri, Tuki RmerTamde Cveni locvebi gvian aRwevs, rode-

sac saRmrTo mcnebebis aRsrulebaSi Tavad vzarmacobT

an sulac ar aRvasrulebT? an imaSi ra aris gasakviri,

rom RmerTma florencis locva mswrafl Seismina, ro-

desac saRmrTo mcnebebs wmindani mudam yurad iRebda?

petre: Seni ganmartebis sawinaaRmdegod verafers

vityvi.

grigoli: rac Seexeba evtiqis, florencis Tanam-

gzavrs saRmrTo asparezze, misi saxeli sikvdilis Sem-

dgom aRsrulebuli saswaulebiT ganiTqva. misi Tanamo-

qalaqeebi uamrav saswauls mogviTxroben, magram gansa-

kuTrebiT aRsaniSnavia saswauli, romelic yovlisSem-

Zle RmerTis nebiT wmindanis samoslis saSualebiT mud-

mivad aResruleboda longobardebis dros. vinaidan im

mxareSi gvalva xSiri iyo, wmindanis Tanamoqalaqeni er-

Tad ikribebodnen da mis samosels RmerTis winaSe loc-

viT aRamaRlebdnen da, rodesac locviTa da samosliT

mindvrebSi dadiodnen, uecrad wvima wamovidoda da mi-

was arwyulebda. aqedan SeiZleba davaskvnaT, ra didi

iyo wmindanis sulieri saTnoebani da damsaxureba, rom

Semoqmedis risxvas mxolod misi samosis gamobrZaneba

aCerebda.

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Tavi meTeqvsmete

marsis mTis monazoni martini

grigoli: arcTu didi xnis win kampaniis olqSi, mar-

sis mTaze, ganmartoebiT cxovrobda vinme martini, kaci

friad saTno. is wlebis manZilze viwro mRvimeSi iyo

dayudebuli. Cveni axloblebidan mas mravalni icnob-

dnen, Cven Soris misi Rvawlis TviTmxilvelnic ki ari-

an. mis Sesaxeb Cemi winamorbedi, netarxsenebuli papi

pelagi da aseve mravali RmrTismoyvare adamiani miam-

bobda. man xsenebuli mTis mRvimeSi dayudebisTanave sas-

wauli aRasrula: kldem, romelic mRvimis siRrmeSi

iyo, wyaro aRmoacena, romelic RmrTis monas imden

wyals awvdida, ramdenic misTvis yoveldRiurad iyo au-

cilebeli. aqedan Cans, Tu rogor zrunavda yovlisSem-

Zle ufali Tavis monaze, romlisTvisac Zveli drois

msgavsad (ricx. 20. 7-11), udabnoSi wyali kldidan aRmo-

acena. uZvelesi mteri RmrTis monis saTnoebaTa mimarT

SuriT aivso da Tavisi manqanebiT cdilobda igi mRvimi-

dan gaeZevebina. amisTvis Tavis usayvarles cxovelSi,

gvelSi Sevida da wmindans aSinebda. gveli ganmartoe-

bul mosagresTan Sedioda da rodesac is loculobda,

mis win wveboda. rodesac wmindani miwaze ganirTxmebo-

da, isic mis gverdiT iwva. wmindani yovelgvari SiSis

gareSe xels an fexs pirTan miutanda da eubneboda:

`Tuki kbenas gamibedav, me nebas gaZlev~. ase sami dRis

ganmavlobaSi grZeldeboda. bolos, wmindanis simtki-

ciT damarcxebulma mterma mRvime RmuiliT datova: gve-

li mTis ferdobidan ufskrulSi gadaeSva, gzaze ki misi

piridan gamosuli cecxli yvelafers wvavda. amgvarad,

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RmrTis gangebiT, mTis ferdze mcenareTa gadawviT, eS-

maki iZulebuli gaxda eCvenebina, misi mZleveli adamiani

ra didi saTnoebiT iyo Semosili. gansaje, sulierebis

ra maRal safexurze iyo es kaci, romelmac sami dRe

gvelTan erTad uvneblad gaatara.

petre: gismen da gaocebuli var.

grigoli: am RmrTismosavma kacma dayudebis xans we-

sad daido aRarasodes exila dedakacis saxe, ara maTda-

mi siZulvilis gamo, aramed eSinoda maTi xilviT cdune-

baSi ar Cavardniliyo. erTma dedakacma Seityo amis Se-

saxeb da urcxvad gakadnierda, mTaze, mRvimis Sesas-

vlelTan asuliyo. wmindanma Soridanve dainaxa igi, sa-

mosiT Seicno, rom dedakaci iyo da locva daiwyo. miwa-

ze dawva, saxe damala da am mdgomareobaSi iqamde iyo,

vidre lodiniT gadaRlili urcxvi dedakaci mRvimis

sarkmels ar moSorda. is mTidan CamosvlisTanave gar-

daicvala, riTic gancxadda, rom RmerTi Tavisi saTno

moRvawis urcxvi kadnierebiT Seuracxyofis gamo Zli-

er ganrisxda.

mravali morwmune adamiani wmindanTan locva-kur-

Txevis saTxovnelad midioda. wmindanis senakTan mimava-

li gza Zalian viwro da cicabo iyo. erTxel erT mci-

rewlovan yrmas fexi daucda da mTidan xeobaSi gada-

varda. is imdenad Rrma iyo, rom mis ZirSi uzarmazari

xeebi patara wnelebiviT moCanda. misi Tanamgzavrebi

SeZrwundnen da im adgils eZebdnen, sadac SeiZleboda

yrma Cavardniliyo. albaT arcerT maTgans imedi ar

hqonda, rom mas cocxals da, miT umetes, uvnebels na-

xavda. magram yrma cocxali da sruliad uvnebeli naxes.

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isini maSinve mixvdnen, rom is wmida martinis mier aR-

vlenili locvis Sedegad gadarCa.

wmindanis mRvimis Tavze uzarmazari klde iyo gadmo-

kidebuli, romelic mTas viwro yeliT uerTdeboda. misi

mowyvetis saSiSroebis gamo wmindans yovel dRe gansac-

deli eloda. erTxel vinme merkatori, saxelovani ar-

mentaris SviliSvili, soflelebTan erTad mTaze avida

da RmrTis monas sTxova, mRvimidan gamosuliyo, raTa

mTidan klde CamoegdoT da wmindans Tavis mRvimeSi

uSiSrad ecxovra. RmrTis kaci amaze ar Tanxmdeboda,

magram Semdeg neba misca merkators ise moqceuliyo,

rogorc surda, TviTon ki mRvimis boloSi ganmartovda;

Tumca ueWveli iyo, rom Camovardnili klde mRvimes Ca-

aqcevda da masac moklavda. rodesac xalxi kldis mom-

tvrevas Seudga da cdilobda wmindanisTvis araferi ev-

no, maT Tvalwin sakvirveli ram aResrula. maT mier Ca-

motexili klde mTidan TavisiT iseT manZilze gadavar-

da, rom mRvimes ar Sexebia da RmrTis mona sruliad uv-

nebeli darCa. visac ueWvelad swams, rom yovelive

RmrTis gangebiT aResruleba, mixvdeba, rom aRwerili

SemTxvevac RmerTis brZanebiT, angelozTa Tanamonawi-

leobiT moxda.

rodesac martini mTaze daeyuda da misi mRvime jer

daxSuli ar iyo, man fexebi rkinis jaWviT Seikra da mi-

si bolo kldeze miamagra, rom imaze Sors ver wasuli-

yo, ris saSualebasac jaWvis sigrZe aZlevda. Rirsma be-

nediqtem, romlis Sesaxeb wignis meore nawilSi mogax-

seneT, amis Sesaxeb gaigo, mowafe gagzavna martinTan da

SeuTvala: `Tuki RmrTis mona xar, gmarTebs Seikra ara

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rkinis, aramed _ qristes siyvarulis xundebiT~. amis

gagonebisTanave martinma borkilebi moixsna, magram

maTgan gaTavisuflebis Semdegac fexi imaze Sors ar ga-

daudgams, vidre Seborkils SeeZlo. mas Semdeg, rac

mRvimeSi daeyuda, masTan misvla daiwyes mowafeebma,

romlebic mRvimesTan dasaxldnen. isini wyals Widan

iRebdnen, magram Toki, romelzec WurWeli iyo mimagre-

buli, xSirad uwydebodaT. amitom mowafeebma wmindans

is jaWvi sTxoves, romliTac fexebi Seiborka da Toks

gadaabes. amis Semdeg Toks wyalSi yoveldRiurad uSveb-

dnen, magram aRarasodes gamwydara, radgan wmindanis

jaWvma mas rkinis simtkice mianiWa.

petre: am saswaulTa smena sasixaruloa, radgan Za-

lian sakvirvelnia da miT ufro, rom axlaxan aRsrul-

dnen.

Tavi meCvidmete

argentaris mTis monazoni, romelmac micvalebuli

mkvdreTiT aRadgina

grigoli: Cvens droSi buqsentis eklesiaSi ipodiak-

vnad iyo vinme kvadragezimi. is avreliis olqSi TviTon

mwyemsavda Tavis cxvrebs. am uaRresad marTalma kacma

erTi saucxoo ambavi gagvando, romelic yvelasgan fa-

rulad aResrula. im dros, rodesac is cxvrebs mwyem-

savda avreliis olqSi, argentaris mTaze erTi metad

RmrTismosavi kaci cxovrobda, garegnobisa da cxovre-

bis wesis mixedviT monazoni. mas wesad hqonda yovel

wels wmida mociqulTa Tavis, petres taZarSi misuli-

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yo. maspinZlobas zemoT naxsenebi ipodiakoni kvadrage-

zimi uwevda. misi saxli taZris siaxloves mdebareobda.

erTxel, rodesac mas stumrad xsenebuli monazoni hyav-

da, erT mezoblad mcxovreb Rarib dedakacs qmari gar-

daecvala. man cxedari wesisamebr ganbana, Semosa da su-

dara gadaafara, magram saRamomde misi dakrZalva ver

moaswro. daqvrivebulma dedakacma mTeli Rame micvale-

bulis cxedarTan tirilSi gaatara. gamudmebuli qviTi-

niT is TiTqosda naRvelis ganqarvebas cdilobda. ase Za-

lian didxans gagrZelda da dedakaci cremlebs ver ika-

vebda. misi mdgomareobiT SeZrulma RmrTis monam, rome-

lic kvadragezimis saxlSi imyofeboda, maspinZels uT-

xra: `am dedakacis mwuxarebas suliT TanavugrZnob.

adeqi da wavideT, vilocoT~. isini taZarSi wavidnen da

locva daiwyes. xangrZlivi locvis Semdeg RmrTis monam

kvadragezims sTxova Camoeloca (anu Sesabamisi damam-

Tavrebeli locva warmoeTqva). Camolocvis Semdeg man

wmida trapezis siaxloves mtveri moagrova da micvale-

bulis saxlisken gaemarTnen. monazonma iqac xangrZli-

vad iloca da uwindeliviT aRar uTxovia ipodiakvnis-

Tvis Camoeloca, TviTon warmoTqva kurTxeva da myisve

wamodga. marjvena xelSi mogrovili mtveri eyara, mar-

cxeniT ki micvalebuls saxeze safeni gadaxada. dedaka-

ci SeewinaaRmdega, radgan ar icoda ras apirebda. mona-

zoni micvalebuls saxes mtveriT didxans uzelda, ris

Semdegac mis sxeulSi suli dabrunda. man Tvalebi gaa-

xila da piri gaaRo, wamojda da TiTqos Rrma Zilisagan

gamoiRviZao, gakvirvebiT uyurebda imas, rac mis garSe-

mo xdeboda. gloviT gaTanguli dedakaci amis danaxvaze

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mometebulad atirda. RmrTis mona arwmunebda damSvi-

debuliyo da dadumebuliyo. `Tu gkiTxaven, _ uTxra

man, _ es rogor moxda, uTxari: ufalma ieso qristem

Tavisi Zalis meoxebiT aRasrula~. amis Semdeg wavida da

im mxareSi aRar gamoCenila, radgan warmaval didebas

gaurboda da cdilobda am udidesi saswaulis damswre

adamianebs am cxovrebaSi aRarasodes Sexvedroda.

petre: ar vici sxvebi rogor fiqroben, magram me yo-

vel saswaulze ufro aRmatebulad micvalebulis

mkvdreTiT aRdgena mimaCnia, rodesac suli missave sxe-

uls ubrundeba.

grigoli: Tuki saswaulis garegan mxares mivxedavT,

maSin ueWvelia, asea. xolo Tu yuradRebas Sinagan mxa-

res mivapyrobT, ra Tqma unda, codvili adamianis sit-

yviT ganswavla da nugeSiscema ufro aRmatebulia, vid-

re micvalebulis mkvdreTiT aRdgena, radgan ukanas-

knel SemTxvevaSi sxeuli aRdgeba, romelic odesme isev

gardaicvleba, pirvel SemTxvevaSi ki suli aRdgeba,

romelic mowodebulia maradiuli sicocxlisaTvis. or

magaliTs SemogTavazeb: Seni azriT, aRmatebuli saswau-

li romel maTganSi gamoCnda? lazare, romelic, ra Tqma

unda, morwmune iyo, ufalma aRadgina sxeuliT, xolo

savle _ suliT. mkvdreTiT aRdgomis Semdeg lazares

saTnoebaTa Sesaxeb araferia naTqvami, magram, rac su-

lieri aRdgomis Semdeg pavles saTnoebaTa Sesaxeb wmida

werilSia naTqvami, Cvens uZlur gonebas imis warmodge-

nac ki ar ZaluZs: kerZod, misi qadagebis Semdeg TviT

yvelaze uwyalo sulebi saTnoebis gzaze eqceodnen; mas

surda momkvdariyo im ZmebisTvis, romelTa sikvdiliT

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uwin xarobda; wmida werili srulad icoda, magram Tavs

umecars uwodebda da ambobda, araferi vici, garna xo-

lo qriste da isica jvarcmulio; qristesTvis, romel-

sac moqcevamde maxviliT devnida, moqcevis Semdeg kver-

TxiT cemas sixaruliT iTmenda. is udidesia, rogorc

mociquli, magram mowafeTa Soris Tavi udaresad miaC-

nda; is saidumloTa saxilvelad mesame caze iqna aRta-

cebuli, magram siyvaruliT aRZruli, gonebis Tvals mi-

apyrobs saqorwino kavSirs da ambobs: qmrebma colebs

jerovani siyvaruli miagon da agreTve _ colebma

qmrebs; angelozebTan erTad Wvrets da amave dros fiq-

robs da ganagebs monazonTa saqmeebs; uZlurebaSi xa-

robs da rodesac Seuracxyofen, misTvis qristea cxov-

reba da sikvdili _ SenaZeni; xorcSi myofi xorcs ga-

reT cxovrobda. ai, rogor icxovra iman, vinc

xorcieli cxovrebidan keTilmsaxuri cxovrebisaken

moiqca! amgvarad, micvalebulis mkvdreTiT aRdgena

xorcielad _ udaresi saswaulia, Tuki xorciel aR-

dgomas Tan sulieri aRdgomac ar axlavs, imgvarad, rom

xiluli saswaulis meoxebiT adamiani Sinaganadac ise

aRdges, rogorc WeSmaritebis gzaze moqcevis Semdeg

xdeba.

petre: adre mkvdris aRdgineba udides saswaulad mi-

maCnda, axla ki davrwmundi, rom cxonebis gzaze kacis

moqceva bevrad ufro didi saqmea. gTxov, ganagrZe daw-

yebuli Txroba, rom Tavisufalma drom damoZRvris ga-

reSe ar Caiaros.

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Tavi meTvramete

monazoni benediqte

grigoli: monasterSi CemTan erTad erTi Zma cxov-

robda, romelic wmida werilSi friad ganswavluli

iyo. is asakiT Cemze ufrosi iyo da mravali ram, rac ar

vicodi, misgan SeviTvise. misi monaTxrobidan Sevityve,

rom kampaniis olqSi, romidan ormoci milis daSore-

biT, vinme benediqte cxovrobda. is asakis mixedviT yrma

iyo, magram cxovrebis mixedviT _ moxucebuli da monaz-

vnur aRTqmebs mkacrad imarxavda. totilas mefobis

Jams is guTebma naxes da gadawyvites, Tavis senakTan er-

Tad daewvaT. maT senaks cecxli SeunTes. cecxlma yve-

laferi dawva senakis garSemo, magram senaks veraferi

avno. guTebi kidev ufro gaborotdnen; Soriaxlos pu-

ris gamosacxobad anTebuli Rumeli dainaxes, monazoni

senakidan gamoiyvanes, RumelSi Seagdes da Caketes, mag-

ram meore dRes is sruliad uvnebeli naxes, mis sxeuls

cecxlma veraferi dauSava da samossac aranairi ziani

ar misdgomia.

petre: sami yrmis saswauli momagonda, romlebic

odesRac RumelSi Seamwyvdies da uvnebelni darCnen.

grigoli: es saswauli, rogorc me meCveneba, cota

sxvagvarad aResrula. maSin sami yrma RumelSi xelfex-

Sekrulni Seamwyvdies, meore dRes ki mefem naxa, rom

isini RumelSi mimodiodnen da samosi sruliad uvnebe-

li hqondaT. aqedan SeiZleba gamovitanoT daskvna, rom

cecxli, romelSic isini Caagdes, ar Seexo maT samoss,

mxolod Toki dawva, anu erTsa da imave dros cecxli

marTalT moemsaxura, maTi SewevnisTvis (Tokis dasawva-

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vad) Zala SeinarCuna, xolo maT dasatanjad uZluri

iyo.

Tavi mecxramete

veronel mRvdelmowame zenonis taZari

Zveli saswaulis msgavsi saswauli Cvens droSic

aResrula, oRond sawinaaRmdego bunebis mqone stiqiaze.

axlaxan tribunma ioanem am saswaulis Sesaxeb miambo.

rogorc Tavad ambobs, amis Sesaxeb graf pronulfisgan

Seityo, romelic mefe aTalariqsTan erTad imyofeboda

iq, sadac es sakvirveli saswauli aResrula. `daaxloe-

biT xuTi wlis win, _ miambobda tribuni ioane, _ romSi

mdinare tibri ise adidda, rom napirebidan gadmovida,

qalaqis galavani gadalaxa da uzarmazari sivrce dat-

bora. aseve veronaSic mdinare atezi adidda, napirebi-

dan gadmovida da mRvdelmowame zenonis taZars miaRwia.

miuxedavad imisa, rom taZris kari Ria iyo, wyali ta-

ZarSi ar Sesula. is TandaTan imatebda da taZris sar-

kmlebs miaRwia, romlebic TiTqmis taZris saxuravis

qveS iyo. amgvarad, wyalma taZris kari gadaRoba da Txe-

vadi stiqia qvis msgavs mtkice nivTierebad iqca. taZar-

Si uamravi xalxi iyo. rodesac wyalma taZari yoveli

mxridan SemozRuda da iqidan gamosvla SeuZlebeli gax-

da, taZarSi myofni SimSiliT sikvdilis SiSma moicva.

isini taZris karTan midiodnen da wyals iRebdnen dasa-

levad, romelic rogorc vTqviT, taZris sarkmlebamde

aRwevda da taZarSi ar Sesula. misi, rogorc wylis,

aReba SeiZleboda, magram taZarSi wyaliviT ar iRvre-

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boda; mowamis siwminde rom eCvenebina, taZris karis win

SeCerda, moxmarebisTvis gamosadegi iyo, magram iqauro-

ba ar datbora, TiTqos wyali ar iyo. amitom vTqvi, rom

es saswauli im uZveles cecxlis saswauls hgavs, ro-

melmac yrmaTa sakrvelni dawva, magram maT samoss ar

Sexebia.

petre: sakvirvelia Sen mier moTxrobili wmindanTa

saqmeni da saocaria adamianis bunebrivi uZlurebisTvis.

magram rodesac Sengan aseTi saocari saTnoebebis mqone

kacTa Sesaxeb gavige, romlebic italiaSi axlaxan cxov-

robdnen, msurs vicode: nuTu maT uZvelesi mteri Tavi-

si xrikebiT ar gamoscdida da rogor sZlevdnen mas?

grigoli: mZime brZolis gareSe gamarjvebis gvirgvi-

ni ar moipoveba. gamarjvebulni ver gaxdebodnen, Tuki

mtris manqanebas ar sZlevdnen. boroti suli Cvens gone-

bas, sityvebsa da moqmedebebs mudmivad Tan sdevs, raTa

CvenSi imgvari ram moiZios, riTac Cvens gasamtyuneblad

umaRlesi msajulis winaSe wardgeba. gsurs icode, Tu

rogor aris is mudmivad Cvens siaxloves, rom mogvina-

diros?

Tavi meoce

stefane, valeriis olqis presviteri

Cvenma Tanamedroveebma amgvari ram miambes: valeriis

provinciaSi iyo presviteri, saxelad stefane. is ke-

TilmsaxurebiT cxovrobda da Cveni diakvnisa da ekono-

mosis, bonifacis axlo naTesavi iyo. erTxel stefane

mogzaurobidan saxlSi brundeboda da msaxurs dabneviT

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uTxra: `eSmako, modi, fexze gamxade~. imwamsve fexsac-

mlis Tasmebma saocari siswrafiT da ZaliT iwyes gax-

sna. cxadia, mas amisTvis moxmobili eSmaki daemorCila.

amis danaxvaze presviteri SeSinda da xmamaRla ayvirda:

`ganved, wyeulo, ganved: Sen ki ara, msaxurs vuTxari~.

eSmaki myisve ganeSora da Tasmebi TiTqmis gaxsnili

darCa. aqedan cxadia, Tuki uZvelesi mteri Cvens yovel

garegan moqmedebas Tvals ase adevnebs, Cvens suls aTas-

gvar maxes rogori yuradRebiT daugebs!

petre: Zalian Zneli da SiSis momgvrelia mtris man-

qanebaTa mimarT mudmivi yuradReba da mzadyofna.

grigoli: Zneli ar iqneba, Tuki Tavis dacvas Cven

TviTon ki ar SevudgebiT, aramed zeciur madls mivan-

dobT da Tanac imgvarad, rom mis mfarvelobasTan erTad

Cvenc, SeZlebisdagvarad, vifxizloT. rodesac mters

sulidan ganvdevniT, maSin, RmerTis saxierebiT, umetes

SemTxvevaSi, eSmaki ukve araTu saSiSi aRar aris, ara-

med Tavad imisi eSinia, vinc RmrTismsaxurebiT cxov-

robs.

Tavi ocdameerTe

enkratisi, romelmac erTi sityviT ixsna adamiani

boroti sulisgan

Semdegi ambavi TviTmxilvelisgan, ukve xsenebuli

wmida elefTerisgan Sevityve. qalaq spoletoSi erT

qalwuls, romelic warCinebuli ojaxis Svili iyo,

mxurvale survili gauCnda angelozTa swori cxovre-

biT ecxovra. mama cdilobda igi am gzaze daebrkolebina,

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magram qaliSvili, misi nebis sawinaaRmdegod, monazvnad

Sedga. amis gamo mamam memkvidreobis ufleba CamoarTva

da mxolod patara mamulis meeqvsedi dautova. am enkra-

tisTan sxva RmrTismosavma qalwulebmac iwyes misvla,

romlebic misi magaliTiT iyvnen aRZrulni: isini Tavs

RmerTs uZRvnidnen da qalwulebas icavdnen. erTxel en-

kratiss zemoT xsenebuli RmrTismosavi beri elefTeri

saubrisa da damoZRvrisaTvis estumra. im dros, rode-

sac isini RmrTis sityvis Sesaxeb saubrobdnen, im mamu-

lidan, romelic qalwuls mamam CamoarTva, glexi movi-

da ZRveniT. mosvlisTanave mas boroti suli ekveTa, das-

ca da ise saSinlad awamebda, rom is xrialebda da bRao-

da. maSin enkratisi wamodga da eSmaks mrisxane saxiT

xmamaRla ubrZana: `ganved magisgan, wyeulo, ganved!~

eSmakma Sepyrobilis piriT myisve upasuxa: `amisgan rom

ganvide, maSin viRaSi Sevide?~ iqve Rori midioda. `da-

tove eg da RorSi Sedi~, _ ubrZana enkratisma. eSmakma

adamiani myisve datova da miTiTebul RorSi Sevida, mok-

la da iqaurobas gaecala.

petre: mainteresebs, SeiZleboda arawmida sulis-

Tvis RorSi Sesvlis uflebis micema?

grigoli: qristes mier aRsrulebuli saqmeebi kanoni

unda iyos Cveni saqmianobisaTvis. TviT macxovars eSmak-

Ta legionma, romelsac adamiani hyavda Sepyrobili, uT-

xra: `ukueTu ganguasxam Cuen, mibrZane Cuen mislvad

koltsa mas RorTasa~ (maT. 8, 31). adamianidan gandevnis

Semdeg macxovarma legions ufleba misca RorebSi Sesu-

liyo da isini zRvaSi daexrCo. aqedan cxadia, rom Tuki

arawmida suls RmerTis daSvebis gareSe RorSic ki ar

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SeuZlia Sesvla, miT umetes, misive miSvebis gareSe

xelmiwfebas verc adamianze moipovebs. amgvarad, gvmar-

Tebs xalisiT davemorCiloT imas, visac uneblieT mor-

Cileben mowinaaRmdegenic, raTa Cvens mtrebze imdenad

gavZlierdeT, ramdenadac Cveni morCilebiT yovelTa Se-

moqmedTan viqnebiT axlos. ra aris gasakviri imaSi, Tu-

ki RmrTis rCeulT mravali saswaulis aRsruleba jer

kidev xorcSi yofnisas SeuZliaT, rodesac maTi Zvlebi

rogorc cocxalni, uamrav saswauls aRasruleben.

Tavi ocdameore

valeriis olqis presviteri, romelmac qurdi Ta-

vis samaresTan SeaCera

valeriis olqSi amgvari ram moxda, romlis Sesaxeb

netarxsenebuli winamZRvari valentini miambobda. im

olqSi erTi Rirseuli mRvdeli cxovrobda, romelic

RmrTismsaxurebisa da saTnoebebisadmi daucxromel

gulmodginebas iCenda da siwmindiT moRvaweobda. rode-

sac misi amqveynidan gasvlis Jami dadga, aResrula da

taZris siaxloves dakrZales. iqve cxvris farexi iyo,

xolo mRvdlis saflavi farexisken mimaval gzaze mdeba-

reobda. erTxel, rodesac taZarSi RmrTismsaxureba

aRevlineboda, viRac farexSi Seipara, cxvari aiyvana da

saswrafod gamovida. rodesac RmrTis monis saflavs mi-

aRwia, uecrad gaSeSda da nabiji veRar gadadga. man

mxrebidan cxvari Camosva da undoda gaeSva, magram xe-

lebi daeborka. sacodavi qurdi am mdgomareobaSi darCa:

Tavis naqurdalTan erTad Seborkili. cxvris gaSveba

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moisurva _ ver SeZlo, misi wayvana gadawyvita _ Zala

ar hqonda. saocaria, qurdi, romelsac eSinoda cocxal

adamianebs ar daenaxaT, micvalebulma daakava da TiTqos

xel-fexi Seukreso, uZravad idga. diliT, msaxurebis

dasrulebis Semdeg, klerikosebi taZridan gamovidnen

da ras xedaven: ucnobi adamiani dgas batkniT xelSi.

isini ver mixvdnen, cxvari man farexidan gamoiyvana, Tu

TviTon moiyvana, magram damnaSavem danaSauli maSinve

aRiara. yvelani gaocebulebi iyvnen imiT, rom RmrTis

Zalam qurdi Tavisi nadavliTurT daakava. myisve mis-

Tvis locvas Seudgnen da wmindans Zlivs gamosTxoves,

rom mtacebluri ganzraxviT mosuli adamiani Tavisi

fexiT wasuliyo nadavlis gareSe. amgvarad, qurdi, ro-

melic tyved didxans iyo, nadavlis gareSe gaTavisuf-

lda.

petre: aqedan Cans, rogori mosiyvarulea Cvens mi-

marT yovlisSemZle RmerTi, romelic aseT sakvirvel

saswaulebs Cvens gamo aRasrulebs.

Tavi ocdamesame

prenestis mTis winamZRvari da misi presviteri

grigoli: qalaq prenestis siaxloves mTa mdebare-

obs, sadac aRmarTulia monasteri wmida mociqul pet-

res taZriTurT. am monasterSi yofnisas iq mcxovrebi

monazvnebisgan Semdegi saswaulis Sesaxeb gavige, rom-

lis mowmeebic, maTive sityviT, Tavad iyvnen. am monas-

tris winamZRvari Rirseul cxovrebas eweoda. masTan

erTi monazoni cxovrobda, romelsac keTilmsaxur

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cxovrebas Tavad aswavlida. rodesac naxa, rom monazoni

RmrTismoSiSebaSi ganmtkicda, winamZRvrma uSuamdgom-

la, rom igi mRvdlad ekurTxebinaT. xeldasxmis Semdeg

monazons gamocxadebiT emcno, rom aRsasruli uaxlov-

deboda. amis gamo man winamZRvars nebarTva sTxova, rom

TavisTvis saflavi moemzadebina. `me Senze adre mov-

kvdebi, _ uTxra winamZRvarma, _ Tumca wadi da saflavi

Seni nebisaebr moimzade~. monazoni wavida da saflavi

moimzada. ramdenime dRis Semdeg sneulebiT gaTangulma

moxucma winamZRvarma, romelic ukanasknel wuTebs iT-

vlida, Tavis mowafe xucess (presviters) ubrZana Ta-

visTvis momzadebul saflavSi daekrZala. `Sen xom ici,

_ upasuxa xucesma, _ rom mec male aRvesrulebi, saf-

lavi ki orives erTad ver dagvitevs~. _ `ise moiqeci,

rogorc giTxari, _ uTxra berma, _ Sens saflavSi ori-

ve movTavsdebiT~. beri gardaicvala da xucesis saflav-

Si dakrZales. amis Semdeg xucesmac sasicocxlo Zale-

bis mokleba igrZno da maleve aResrula. rodesac Zmebma

misi cxedari saflavTan miasvenes da saflavi gaTxares,

yvelam naxa, rom iq misi Casasvenebeli adgili ar iyo,

radgan saflavi winamZRvris sxeuls ekava. im dros, ro-

desac Zmebi Relavdnen, Tu rogor daekrZalaT xucesi,

erT-erTma maTganma SesZaxa: `mamao! rogorRa ambobdi,

rom saflavi orives dagitevdaT?~ am SeZaxilis Semdeg,

yvelas Tvalwin, winamZRvris sxeuli, romelic gulaRma

esvena, gverdze gadabrunda da presviteris cxedris-

Tvis adgili gaaTavisufla. amgvarad, beris mier sicoc-

xleSi warmoTqmuli winaswarmetyveleba, rom saflavSi

orives cxedari moTavsdeboda, misi gardacvalebis Sem-

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deg aRsrulda. es, rogorc ukve giTxari, qalaq prenes-

tis maxloblad, wmida mociqul petres monasterSi

moxda. gsurs icode, ra SeemTxvaT eklesiis mcvelebs

qalaqSi, sadac mociqul petres wmida nawilebi ganisve-

nebs?

petre: mainteresebs da guliTadad gTxov miambo.

Tavi ocdameoTxe

mnaTe Teodore, romelic romSi, wmida mociqul

petres taZarSi msaxurobda

grigoli: zogierTi adamiani, vinc wmida mociqul

petres taZris mcvel Teodores icnobda, amJamadac

cocxalia. maT Teodorem SesaniSnavi ram uambo, rac Ta-

vad gadaxda. _ erTxel, RamiT, is Cveulebrivze adre

adga, raTa karTan dakidebuli sacecxluri gaewminda.

rodesac is, Cveulebisamebr, xis kibeze idga sacecxlu-

ris qveS da mas asufTavebda, uecrad, mis zurgs ukan

wmida mociquli petre TeTrSi Semosili gamocxadda da

uTxra: `megobaro! ase adre risTvis adeqi?~ amis Tqmis-

Tanave mociquli uxilavi gaxda. Teodore iseTma SiSma

moicva, rom mTeli sxeuli mouuZlurda da ramdenime

dRe sawolidan ver dgeboda. wmida mociquls cxadad

surda am gamocxadebiT eCvenebina, rom is mudam im adami-

anebTan aris, vinc mas emsaxureba da yovelives, rasac

mis pativad aRasruleben, xedavs da dauyovnebliv sike-

TiT miagebs.

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petre: gamaoca ara imdenad mociqulis gamocxadebam,

ramdenadac iman, rom misi mxilveli loginad Cavarda,

Tumca manamde janmrTeli iyo.

grigoli: rad gagikvirda, petre? ra aris amaSi gau-

gebari, rodesac winaswarmetyvelma danielmac, udidesi

da saSineli xilvis aRweris Semdeg, romelmac Zrwola

mohgvara, iqve ganagrZo: `da me, daniel, davwev da dav-

susten dReTa~ (8, 27). xorcs ar ZaluZs sulieris da-

tevna. rodesac adamianis suli WvretisTvis xorcs ga-

reT aRitaceba, xSirad misi xorcieli WurWeli uZ-

lurdeba, radgan aseTi saboZvaris tvirTva ar SeuZlia.

petre: Senma sityvebma yovelgvari eWvi gamifanta.

Tavi ocdamexuTe

akonci, wmida mociqul petres imave taZris mnaTe

grigoli: Cveni berebi mogviTxrobdnen, rom arcTu

didi xnis win imave taZarSi mcvelad iyo vinme akonci,

kaci friad patiosani da Tavmdabali. is RmerTs imgvari

rwmeniT emsaxureboda, rom wmida mociqulma petrem mi-

sadmi keTilganwyoba xilulad gamoavlina. taZarTan

erTi davrdomili gogona cxovrobda. is miwaze xelebiT

daxoxavda, radgan sneulebis gamo fexebi ar emorCile-

boda. is wmida mociqul petres gankurnebas didxans

evedreboda. erTxel, RamiT, CvenebaSi mociquli warmo-

udga da uTxra: `midi mnaTe akoncisTan, sTxove da kur-

nebas is moganiWebs~. gogonam Cveneba irwmuna, magram vin

iyo mnaTe akonci ar icoda da amis gasagebad taZarSi

aqeT-iqiT daxoxavda. uecrad is, visac eZebda, misken

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TviTon gamoemarTa. `gevedrebi, mamao, _ SehRaRada sne-

ulma, _ aq mcveli akonci vin aris?~ `akonci me var~, _

miugo man. _ `mwyemsma da mamam Cvenma, wmida mociqulma

petrem, SenTan gamomgzavna, rom uZlurebisgan mixsna~.

_ uTxra gogonam. _ `Tuki man gamoggzavna, wamodeqi~. am

sityvebze akoncim bavSvs xeli mohkida da fexze wamoa-

yena. gogonas sxeulSi yvela nervi da aso myisve gan-

mtkicda, ise, rom uZlurebis kvalic aRar darCenila.

Tuki am taZarSi aRsrulebuli saswaulebis Sesaxeb

movisurvebT saubars, maSin ueWvelia sxvas veRarafers

mogiTxrob. amitom davubrundeT im mamebis Sesaxeb

Txrobas, romlebmac italiaSi Tavisi cxovrebiT sul

axlaxan gaiTqves saxeli.

Tavi ocdameeqvse

gandegili mina

grigoli: axlaxan samniis olqSi ganmartoebiT cxov-

robda erTi RmrTis saTno kaci, saxelad mina. is aTiode

wlis win aResrula; Cveni axloblebidan mas mravali

icnobda. maTgan, vinc mis saqmeTa Sesaxeb gviambobda,

aravis gamovyof. misi cxovrebis mowme imdeni adamiania,

ramdenmac samniis olqis arseboba icis. mTeli misi qo-

neba ramdenime ska futkari iyo. erTxel romeliRac

longobardma misi skebis moparva gadawyvita. minam amis

gakeTeba sityvierad aukrZala. uecrad longobards bo-

roti suli ekveTa da minas ferxTiT dasca. am SemTxve-

vis Semdeg minas saxeli ganiTqva rogorc im olqis

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mcxovreblebs, aseve barbaros-longobardebs Soris da

mis senakTan uSiSrad miaxloebas veRaravin bedavda.

mezobeli tyidan xSirad daTvebi gamodiodnen da ski-

dan Taflis amoRebas cdilobdnen, magram wmindani iWer-

da maT da scemda kverTxiT, romelic mudam Tan dahqon-

da. sazareli cxovelebi cemiT SeSinebulni RmuiliT

garbodnen: isini maxvils ar ufrTxodnen ise, rogorc

mis kverTxs.

wmindans wesad hqonda: araferi hqonoda da amqveynad

araferi moepovebina; siyvaruliT mosuli TiToeuli

adamiani maradiuli cxovrebis damkvidrebis surviliT

aRenTo, xolo isini, visi codviT dacemanic icoda, dau-

zareblad emxilebina da, rogorc misi mxurvale siyva-

ruli iTxovda, umkacresi sityviT moewyla. axlomaxlo

mcxovreblebma wesad daides, wmindanisTvis yoveldRiu-

rad morigeobiT sxvadasxva Sewiruleba gaegzavnaT, ra-

Ta mas mosulTaTvis mieca. erTxel erTma mdidarma kac-

ma, karterim, romelic arawminda vnebiT iyo Sepyrobi-

li, erTi mowese dedakaci (enkratisi) gaitaca da masze

ukanonod iqorwina. rodesac es RmrTis kacma Seityo,

karteri sxvebis piriT amxila. man danaSauli SiSiT

aRiara, magram RmrTis kacTan misvla ver gabeda, rom

misgan mkacri mxileba ar moesmina da sxvaTa Sewirulo-

bebTan erTad farulad ZRveni gaugzavna, raTa wmindans

ucodinrad mieRo misi Senawiri. rodesac minas miar-

Tves Sewirulobani, man saTiTaod daiwyo maTi gadarCe-

va. yvela saCuqari gadaawyo, karteris mier gamogzavni-

li ZRveni gamocxadebiT icno, zizRiT gadaagdo da Tqva:

wadiT da mas uTxariT: `Sengan Semowirulobas ar vi-

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Reb, radgan RmerTs ZRveni mostace da me migzavni!~ am

sityvebma warmoaCina, rogor zedmiwevniT Seicnobda

wmindani misgan Sors momxdars da yvela iq myofs didi

SiSi mohgvara.

petre: vfiqrob, xsenebul wmindanTagan mravalni mo-

wameni gaxdebodnen, maSin devna rom yofiliyo.

grigoli: mowameoba orgvari arsebobs, sayvarelo

petre: erTi _ Sinagani, meore _ garegani. Tu devna ar

aris, SeiZleba faruli mowameoba arsebobdes, rodesac

suli mowameobisaTvis mzadyofniT aris anTebuli. mowa-

meoba rom xiluli wamebis gareSec SesaZlebelia, es

TviT ufalma saxarebaSi daadastura, rodesac zebedes

Zeebs, romelnic gonebis uZlurebis gamo mas saukeTeso

adgilebze dajdomas sTxovdnen, daekiTxa: `Zal-gica

Sesumad sasumeli, romeli me megulebis Sesumad?~ xo-

lo maT upasuxes: `Zal-gÂc~. maSin iesom miugo: `sasu-

meli same Cemi SesuaT... xolo dajdomaÁ marjueniT Cem-

sa da marcxeniT ara ars Cemi micemad~ (maT. 20, 22-23).

ras gulisxmobs ufali sasmisSi, Tu ara _ wamebis Tass?

Cven viciT, rom iakobma sicocxle mowamebrivad daasru-

la, xolo ioane maSin aResrula, rodesac eklesia dev-

nas ar ganicdida. ueWvelia, rom mowameoba xiluli wa-

mebis gareSec arsebobs, radgan devnis gareSe aRsrule-

bulze iTqva, rom uflis sasmiss Sesvams. Tumca imis

kvleva rad gvinda, devnis dros mowameebi gaxdebodnen

Tu ara Cem mier moxseniebuli mamebi, romlebsac mtris

manqaneba mudmivad tanjavda da amqveynad TavianTi mtre-

bi uyvardaT, yovelgvar xorciel vnebas ebrZodnen da

amgvarad TavianT suls sauflo msxverplad awrTobdnen

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da mowameni mSvidobian droSi gaxdnen; Cvens droSic ki,

TviT yvelaze ubralo eriskacni, romelTa gansakuTre-

bul gandidebaze TiTqos aravin fiqrobda, xelsayreli

SemTxvevisTanave mowamebriv gvirgvinebs idgamdnen.

Tavi ocdameSvide

ormoci glexi, romlebic longobardebma imis gamo

daxoces, rom nakerpavis Wamaze uari Tqves

magaliTad, TxuTmetiode wlis win, rogorc TviT-

mxilvelni mowmoben, ormoci glexi longobardebma da-

atyveves da nakerpavis Wamas aiZulebdnen. rodesac maT

winaaRmdegoba gauwies da Sebilwul saWmels ar gaekar-

nen, longobardebi sikvdiliT daemuqrnen. magram tyvee-

bi, romlebmac maradiuli cxovreba ufro metad Seiyva-

res, vidre amqveyniuri da warmavali, sarwmunoebis er-

Tgulni darCnen da am simtkicis gamo yvelani daxoces.

gana es adamianebi, romlebmac sikvdili amjobines, vid-

re akrZalulis WamiT Semoqmedi SeuracxeyoT, WeSmari-

tebisTvis namdvili mowameni ar iyvnen?

Tavi ocdamerve

tyveebi, romlebic imisTvis daxoces, rom Txis Tavs

ar sces Tayvani

imave xanebSi longobardebs tyved sxva oTxasi adami-

anic hyavdaT. longobardebi eSmaks msxverplad Txis

Tavs swiravdnen. msxverplSewirvis dros isini wreze

darbodnen da ugunur simRerebs mRerodnen. TviTon

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msxverpleSiwrva aRasrules da tyveebsac imaves aiZu-

lebdnen. magram tyveTa umravlesobam amjobina sikvdi-

liT maradiuli cxovreba moepovebina, vidre kerpis

TayvaniscemiT sicocxle SeenarCunebina. maT uRirsi

brZanebis Sesrulebaze uari Tqves da Tavebi, romelTac

Semoqmeds udrekdnen, qmnilebas ar moudrikes. amis gamo

yovel maTgans, vinc monawileoba ar miiRo maT cdomile-

baSi, ganrisxebulma mtrebma maxviliT Tavi mohkveTes.

amgvarad, Tuki SemTxveviTi devnis dros mowamebrivi

gvirgvini moipoves imaTac ki, vinc SesaZloa eklesiis

mSvidobianobis dros farTo gziT vidodnen, ra gasakvi-

ria, rom devnis dros mowameni isini gamxdariyvnen, vinc

mSvidobian droSic ki Tavs ar zogavdnen, gamudmebiT Se-

iWirvebdnen da mowameobis viwro gziT vidodnen? Tumca,

rac rCeul mosagreebze vTqvi, ar SeiZleba ganvazoga-

doT, rogorc saerTo wesi, imitom, rom eklesiis aSka-

ra devnis dros mravalma maTganma, vinc mSvidobian xana-

Si sando ar Cans, SeiZleba mowameoba itvirTos da, pi-

riqiT, vinc mSvidobian xans mtkice morwmuned gveCvene-

ba, zogjer SiSis gamo iryeva. ueWvelad mwams, rom yve-

la Cem mier moxsenebul wmindans SeeZlo mowameoba et-

virTa, _ es maTi aRsasrulidanac Cans. radgan isini, vis

Sesaxebac cnobilia, rom sicocxlis bolomde faruli

sulieri Rvawli mtkiced daimarxes, arc xiluli dev-

nis SemTxvevaSi daecemodnen.

petre: samarTlianad brZaneb, magram Cven, uRirsTa,

mimarT gamoCenili RmrTis mowyaleba maocebs, romelic

longobardebis sisastikes imgvarad zRudavs, rom imaTi

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uwminduri samRvdeloeba, romelic erTi SexedviT Cven-

ze zeimobs, marTlmadidebel morwmuneebs ver sdevnis.

Tavi ocdamecxre

dabrmavebuli ariozeli episkoposi

grigoli: longobardebi amas mravaljer cdilob-

dnen, sayvarelo petre, magram maT borotebas RmerTi

saswaulebrivad aCerebda. erT saswauls giambob, rom-

lis Sesaxeb samiode dRis win bonifacisgan Sevityve, _

is Cemi monastris monazonia da manamde oTxi weli lon-

gobardebTan dayo. erTxel qalaq spoletoSi ariozeli

longobardi episkoposi Cavida. mas taZari ar hqonda,

sadac Tavis msaxurebas Caatarebda da qalaqis episko-

poss taZari sTxova, raTa Tavisi eretikuli msaxureba

aResrulebina. rodesac episkoposma gadaWriT uTxra

uari, ariozeli daemuqra, rom meore dRes wmida moci-

qul pavles taZars ZaliT miitacebda. taZris mcvelma

amis Sesaxeb rom gaigo, taZarSi mivida da kari urdu-

liT Caketa. rodesac mosaRamovda, mcvelma kandelebi

Caaqro, TviTon ki taZarSi miimala. ariozeli episkopo-

si Tavis xalxTan erTad gamTeniisas movida, raTa taZ-

ris kari gaetexa, magram uecrad, RmrTis ZaliT, yvela

kari Seirya, kliteebi Sors gadacvivda da eklesiis

yvela kari da urduli didi xmauriT gaixsna. zevidan

naTeli gadmovida da Camqrali kandelebi aanTo; taZris

mitacebis mizniT mosuli ariozeli dabrmavda da sax-

lSi sxvaTa daxmarebiT dabrunda. amis Sesaxeb im qveya-

naSi myofma longobardebma rom Seityves, marTlmadi-

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deblur taZrebSi Sesvlas veRar bedavdnen. amgvarad,

rodesac wmida pavles taZarSi kandelebi ariozeli

episkoposis gamo Caaqres, erTi da imave saswaulebrivi

qmedebiT episkoposs TvalisCini waerTva da taZars si-

naTle daubrunda.

Tavi ocdameaTe

ariozelTa taZari romSi, romelic marTlmadide-

belTaTvis ikurTxa

arianuli eresis samxileblad imasac giambob, ra ni-

Si aCvena saRmrTo saxierebam ori wlis win Cvens qalaq-

Si. es garemoebani nawilobriv cnobilia xalxisTvis,

agreTve mRvdeli da taZris mnaTeebi, rogorc TviT-

mxilvelni da mowmeebi, adastureben. romis ubanSi, ro-

melsac suburo hqvia, ariozelebs taZari hqondaT mita-

cebuli, romelic ori wlis manZilze umoqmedo iyo.

marTlmadideblebma ganizraxes taZari marTlmadideb-

lurad ekurTxebinaT da iq wmida sebastianesa da qal-

wulmowame aRaTias wmida nawilebi daebrZanebinaT. asec

moiqcnen. uamravi xalxis TanxlebiTa da RmrTisadmi qe-

bis himnTa galobiT isini taZarSi Sevidnen. sadResaswa-

ulo wirvis dros xalxi simravlis gamo mWidrod idga.

zogierTebi taZris gareT idgnen. uecrad maT igrZnes,

rom fexebTan Rori daurbodaT. TiToeuli, vinc amas

grZnobda, gverdiT mdgoms atyobinebda. Rori taZridan

gareT gamovarda; yvela, vis fexebTanac man gaiara, gao-

cebuli iyo, isini Tumca grZnobdnen mis moZraobas, mag-

ram ver xedavdnen. RmrTis saxierebam es dauSva, raTa

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yvelasTvis cxadi gamxdariyo, rom taZridan arawmida

suli gavida.

wirvis dasrulebis Semdeg yvelani wavidnen. imave Ra-

mes taZris saxuravze Zlieri xmauri gaisma, TiTqos iq

viRac darboda. momdevno RamiT xmauri gaZlierda da

bolos iseTi zanzari atyda, TiTqos taZari saZirkveli-

dan gadaadgildao. Semdeg siCume Camovarda da uZvelesi

mtris SfoTi aRarafriT gamovlenila. am xmauriT ga-

moCnda, rom boroti suli iZulebuli gaxda is adgili

daetovebina, romelsac didi xania dahpatroneboda.

ramdenime dRis Semdeg, rodesac ca mowmendili iyo, ci-

dan sakurTxevelze Rrubeli daeSva, safarveliviT ga-

daefara da taZari iseTi keTilsurnelebiTa da naTliT

aivso, rom Ria karebSi SiSiT Sesvlas veravin bedavda.

mRvdeli da mnaTeebi, aseve wirvaze misuli mrevli, sas-

waulis xilvisa da keTilsurnelebis SegrZnebis gamo

taZarSi Sesvlas ver bedavdnen. meore dRes Camqrali

kandelebi zecidan gadmosulma cecxlma aanTo. litur-

giis dasrulebis Semdeg mnaTem kandelebi Caaqro, taZ-

ridan wavida da ukan dabrunebuls Camqrali kandelebi

anTebuli daxvda. ifiqra, rom uyuradRebobis gamo anTe-

buli darCa, kandelebi isev Caaqro da taZari gulmod-

gined daketa. sami saaTis Semdeg dabrunebuls Camqrali

kandelebi isev anTebuli daxvda: am cecxlma cxadad aC-

vena, rom taZarma sibnelidan naTelSi gadainacvla.

petre: saocari saswaulebi, romelTa Sesaxeb miam-

bob, mowmobs, rom Tumca did mwuxarebebSi vcxovrobT,

magram Cvens Semoqmeds jer mTlad ar mivutovebivarT.

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grigoli: ganzraxuli mqonda mxolod italiaSi mom-

xdari ambebi meambna, magram arianuli eresis samxileb-

lad, Tu gsurs, espaneTSi gadavinacvloT, iqidan ki af-

rikis gavliT italiaSi davbrundeT.

Tavi ocdameTerTmete

vestguTebis mefe liuvihildis Ze, mefe hermini-

hildi, romelic mamam kaTolike (sayovelTao, anu

marTlmadidebluri) sarwmunoebis gamo mokla

grigoli: espaneTidan Camosulebma miambes, rom axla-

xan vestguTebis mefe liuvihildis Ze herminihildi

italieli episkoposis, Rirsi leandris, qadagebiT, ro-

melTanac erT dros xanmokle megobroba makavSirebda,

arianuli eresidan kaTolike sarwmunoebaze moeqca.

ariozeli mama Svilis mwvaleblobaSi dabrunebas cdi-

lobda da amisTvis jildos aRuTqvamda, winaaRmdeg Sem-

TxvevaSi sasjeliT aSinebda. magram, radgan Svili mtki-

ced pasuxobda, rom erTxel Secnobil WeSmarit sar-

wmunoebas arasodes datovebda, ganrisxebulma mamam me-

fobis ufleba da mamuli CamoarTva. Svilis sulieri

simtkice verc amiT rom ver Searyia, mamam igi daatyve-

va, xelebsa da fexebze borkilebi daado da mravalric-

xovani dacva miuCina. borkilebdadebuli, ZaZebiT mosi-

li ufliswuli herminihildi miwieri samefos amaoeba-

ze fiqrobda da mTel Tavis sulier Zalisxmevas zeciu-

ri samefosken mimarTavda. yovlisSemZle RmerTis wina-

Se warmoTqmul locvebSi Sewynarebas eZebda da warma-

vali qveynis didebas miT ufro moiZulebda, rac ufro

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cxadi xdeboda misTvis, rom imqveynad Tavisufalic ve-

rafers waiRebda. aRdgomis win, RamiT, usjulo mamam

Svils ariozeli episkoposi gaugzavna, raTa hermini-

hildi maT uwmindur saidumlos misi xeliT ziareboda

da mamis keTilganwyoba amgvarad moepovebina. RmerTis

erTgulma yrmam ariozeli episkoposi Seasmina, misi us-

juloeba amxila da gaagdo. Tumca gareganad Seborkili

iwva, magram sulierad uaRresad mtkice iyo. rodesac

episkoposi dabrunda, ariozeli mama ganrisxda da ma-

Sinve Tavisi mcvelebi gagzavna, rom RmerTis mtkice aR-

msarebeli adgilzeve moeklaT, rac aRsrulda kidec.

sapyrobileSi Sesulebma mas Tavi maxviliT mohkveTes da

xorcieli sicocxle amgvarad mouswrafes: maT masSi is

gangmires, rac mokluls Tavadac ugulebelyofili

hqonda.

misi WeSmariti didebis gamosaCenad RmerTma araerTi

saswauli aRasrula. Ramis siCumeSi mefisa da mowamis

sxeulTan (WeSmaritad _ mefisa, radgan mowame gaxda)

fsalmunTa galoba ismoda. zogierTebi amboben, rom Ra-

miT mis cxedarTan anTebuli kandelebi ixiles. usjulo

da Svilis mkvlelma mamam Seinana da Tavisi saqcielis

gamo wuxda, magram cxonebis damkvidreba ar isurva.

Tumca Seicno, rom kaTolike (sayovelTao, marTlmadi-

debluri) sarwmunoeba WeSmaritia, magram qveSevrdom-

Ta SiSiT ver gabeda misi miReba.

rodesac sneulebis gamo mefes sikvdili miuaxlovda,

episkopos leandrs, romelsac manamde devnida, Tavisi

vaJi reharedi Caabara, romelic agreTve cdomilebaSi

iyo da sTxova, Tavisi SegonebebiT iseTive cvlileba mo-

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exdina masSi, rogoric mis ZmaSi moaxdina. am anderZis

Semdeg is gardaicvala. misi gardacvalebis Semdeg mefe

reharedi baZavda ara usjulo mamas, aramed _ mowame

Zmas, arianuli eresidan TviTonac moeqca da Tavis same-

foSi uflebas aravis aZlevda mieRo samxedro wodeba,

vinc, rogorc uRirsi eretikosi, RmrTis sasufevlis

mtrad rCeboda. man vestguTebi WeSmarit sarwmunoebaze

moaqcia. ar aris gasakviri, rom mowamis Zma WeSmariti

sarwmunoebis mqadagebeli gaxda. mas Zmis damsaxureba

Seewia mravali adamiani moeyvana yovlisSemZle RmerTis

eklesiis wiaRSi. am ambavSi yuradRebas is garemoeba im-

saxurebs, rom araferi amis msgavsi ar moxdeboda, mefe

herminihildi WeSmaritebisTvis rom ar momkvdariyo,

rogorc dawerilia: `ukueTu ara marcuali ifqlisaÁ

davardes queyanasa da mokudes, igi martoÁ xolo egos;

xolo ukueTu mokudes, mravali nayofi gamoiRos~ (io-

an. 12, 24). rogorc vxedavT, asoebSic igive aResruleba,

rac TavSi (qristeSi). vestguTebisgan erTi mokvda, ra-

Ta mravalni gacocxlebuliyvnen: sulieri cxovrebis

aRorZinebisTvis erTi marcvali sarwmunod daifla da

udidesi yana aRmoacena.

petre: saocari saqmeebia da sakvirvelia Cveni dro-

isTvis!

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Tavi ocdameTormete

afrikeli episkoposebi, romlebic Tavisuflad

laparakobdnen miuxedavad imisa, rom barbarosma

ariozelebma maT enebi amokveTes kaTolike

sarwmunoebis dacvisaTvis

grigoli: iustiniane avgustusis mefobis Jams, rode-

sac afrikaSi vandali ariozelebis mier kaTolike sar-

wmunoeba sastikad idevneboda, zogierTi episkoposi,

romelic WeSmaritebas qeduxreli simtkiciT icavda,

msjavrdebul iqna. sityviTa da saboZvariT maT rwmena

rom ver Seacvlevines, vandalma mefem ganizraxa maTi

simtkice wamebiT Seemusra. ubrZana maT dadumebuliy-

vnen, magram isini WeSmaritebas icavdnen da usjuloe-

bis winaSe dadumeba ar surdaT, raTa dumiliT Tanxmoba

ar gamoexataT. mefe ganrisxda da brZana maTTvis enebi

amoekveTaT. magram, hoi saocrebav! mravali mama mow-

mobs, rom isini WeSmaritebas uenod iseve amowmebdnen,

rogorc amas manamde enebiT iqmodnen.

petre: sakvirveli da uaRresad saocari saqmea!

grigoli: dausabamo mamis mxolodSobili Zis Sesa-

xeb dawerilia: `pirveliTgan iyo sityuaÁ da sityuaÁ

igi iyo RmrTisa Tana, da RmerTi iyo sityuaÁ igi~ (io-

an. 1, 1). mis Zlierebaze ki naTqvamia: `yovelive mis mier

Seiqmna~ (ioan. 1, 3). ra aris gasakviri, petre, Tuki

RmrTis sityva, romelmac ena Seqmna, maTSi uenod aRa-

Radda?

petre: geTanxmebi, samarTliani SeniSvnaa.

grigoli: is episkoposebi samSoblodan ganidevnen da

konstantinopolSi gadavidnen. imxanad saeklesio saqme-

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Ta gamo imperatorTan warmgzavnes. iq erT-erT episko-

poss Sevxvdi, romelic adasturebda, rom sakuTari Tva-

liT naxa, maTi bageni uenod rogor metyvelebdnen. isini

xmamaRla ambobdnen: `aha, vlaparakobT, Tumca enebi ara

gvaqvs!~ misi TqmiT, msurvelebs SeeZloT enaxaT, rom

Zirfesvianad amokveTili enebis nacvlad didi Rrmuli

hqondaT yelSi da miuxedavad sicarielisa, sityvebs

srulad gamoTqvamdnen. magram erT-erTi maTgani sim-

didres daemona da myisve dakarga saswaulebrivi niWi.

yovlisSemZle RmerTma samarTlianad gansaja, radgan

adamianma, romelmac xorcieli TavSekaveba miatova,

xorcieli enis gareSe laparaki veRar SeZlo. _ es mo-

naTxrobebi sakmarisia arianuli eresis samxileblad.

axla saswaulebs davubrundeT, romlebic axlaxan aR-

sruldnen italiaSi.

Tavi ocdamecamete

RmrTis mona elefTeri

Cems mier zemoT moxseniebuli elefTeri, qalaq spo-

letos maxloblad mdebare wmida markoz maxareblis

monastris winamZRvari, CemTan erTad didxans cxovrob-

da Cems qalaqis monasterSi, magram Tavis monasterSi

aResrula. misi mowafeebi hyvebian, rom man locviT mic-

valebuli mkvdreTiT aRadgina. mas imgvari Tavmdabloba

da gulSemusvrileba hqonda, rom aseTi mSvidi da ubra-

lo adamianis TvalTagan warmodenili cremli RmerTis

winaSe friad Zalmosili iyo. mis mier aRsrulebuli

saswaulis Sesaxeb giambob, romelic sruli gulubra-

loebiT Tavad aRiara.

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erTxel elefTers mgzavrobisas gzaSi SemoaRamda da,

radgan Ramis gasaTevi arsad hqonda, dedaTa monasterSi

Sevida. iq erTi mcirewlovani yrma hyavdaT, romelsac

yovel Rame boroti suli stanjavda. monazvnebma miiRes

RmrTis mona da sTxoves yrma RamiT TavisTan hyoloda.

elefTeri daTanxmda da neba darTo yrmas Rame masTan

gaeTia. diliT monazvnebi mzrunvelad daekiTxnen mamas,

mibarebulma yrmam xom araferi avno. man gakvirvebiT

upasuxa: `araferi~. maSin yrmis Sesaxeb auxsnes, rom

boroti suli mas arc erTi RamiT ar tovebda da sTxo-

ves, Tan waeyvana monasterSi, imitom, rom misi tanjvis

yureba ukve aRar SeeZloT. beri daTanxmda da yrma Tan

waiyvana. uZvelesi mteri masTan miaxloebas ver bedavda

da beri suliT xarobda, rom yrma ixsna. `Zmebo, _ eub-

neboda is monastris Zmebs, _ iq eSmaki debs Seurac-

xyofda, magram rogorc ki yrma RmrTis monebTan movi-

da, eSmaki masTan miaxloebas veRar bedavs~. am sityvebis

warmoTqmis Semdeg eSmaki yrmas ZmaTa winaSe ekveTa da

tanjva dauwyo. beri amis danaxvaze atirda. Zmebi mis

damSvidebas didxans cdilobdnen. bolos maT uTxra:

`vercerTi Tqvengani lukmas iqamde ver SeWams, vidre

yrmisgan eSmaki ar ganidevneba~. ZmebTan erTad is loc-

vas mieca: iqamde iloces, vidre yrma tanjvisagan ar ix-

snes. kurneba imdenad srulyofili iyo, rom boroti

suli masTan miaxloebiT aRarasodes gakadnierebula.

petre: vfiqrob, bers gulSi mcireodeni ampartavneba

Seepara da yovlisSemZle RmerTma amitom ineba saswau-

lis Tanamonawileni misi mowafeebic gamxdariyvnen.

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grigoli: diax, marto man ver SeZlo aseTi didi sas-

wauli etvirTa, ZmebTan gaziarebis Semdeg ki SeZlo.

Cems Tavze gamomicdia, am adamianis locvas rogori Za-

la hqonda. rodesac jer kidev monasterSi vcxovrobdi,

sasicocxlo Zalebis mokleba vigrZeni da xSiri avad-

myofobis Sedegad sikvdilis piras aRmovCndi. Zmebs saW-

mliT rom ar movemaragebine, srulebiT davuZlurdebo-

di. aRdgoma dgeboda. did SabaTs, rodesac yvela, TviT

mcirewlovani bavSvebic ki marxuloben, me marxva ar Se-

meZlo da mwuxarebisgan kidev ufro davuZlurdi, mag-

ram Cemma mwuxare sulma nugeSi maleve ipova. gadavwyvi-

te RmrTis mona elefTeri samlocveloSi farulad mo-

mewvia da misTvis meTxova eloca, rom yovlisSemZle

RmerTs im dRes marxvis dasacavad CemTvis Zala moeniWe-

bina. rogorc ki samlocveloSi SevediT da mdablad

vTxove, man cremliT locva daiwyo da xanmokle locvis

Semdeg gavida, magram rodesac kurTxeva warmoTqva, yo-

velgvari azri saWmelisa da sneulebis Sesaxeb gamiqra.

Zalian mikvirda, radgan vicodi rogori viyavi da ro-

gori gavxdi _ rodesac uZlureba Cems suls exeboda,

verafers vixsenebdi iqidan, rac uwin vicodi, xolo

rodesac goneba samonastro saqmeebiT mqonda dakavebu-

li, sneuleba srulebiT maviwydeboda. rodesac, ro-

gorc giTxari, Cems sneulebas movigonebdi da amave

dros Tavs kargad vgrZnobdi, _ mikvirda, rom jer ki-

dev uzmod viyavi. saRamos monasterSi dabrunebulma im-

gvari Zala vigrZeni, rom SemeZlo marxva meore dResac

gamegrZelebina. amgvarad, Tumca imis mowme ar viyavi,

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rasac beris Sesaxeb ambobdnen, magram Cems Tavze gamov-

cade, rom yovelive WeSmaritia.

petre: Sen Tqvi, rom am adamians Rrma gulSemusvri-

leba hqonda. msurs srulad Sevicno cremlis Zala.

gTxov, miTxari: ramdeni saxis gulSemusvrileba arse-

bobs?

Tavi ocdameToTxmete

ramdeni saxis gulSemusvrileba arsebobs?

grigoli: gulSemusvrileba, anu iseTi mdgomareoba,

rodesac monanuli yovel Tavis codvas iglovs, ramde-

nime saxis arsebobs. ieremia monanulTa saxeliT amitom

ambobs: `gardamosaqanelni wyalTani gardamoadinnes

TualTa CemTa~ (god. ier. 3, 48). magram, umTavresad, gu-

lis Semusvrileba aris orgvari: pirveli _ rodesac

guli, romelsac RmerTi swyuria, SiSiT wuxs, meore ki

_ rodesac siyvaruliT wuxs. pirvel SemTxvevaSi suls

mware mwuxareba moicavs, rodesac Cadenil codvebs

igonebs da eSinia, maT gamo maradiul satanjvels ar

daeqvemdebaros, magram rodesac xangrZlivi mwuxareba

da SfoTi am SiSs aRmofxvris, gamoxsnis winaTgrZnobis

gamo sulSi erTgvari simSvide daisadgurebs, masSi

aRinTeba siyvaruli zeciuri sixarulis mimarT da ro-

gorc uwin tanjvis SiSiT wuxda, SemdegSi kidev ufro

meti simwariT imas iglovs, rom sasufevelSi ar aris.

suli angelozTa saxeebs, netar sulTa urTierTobasa

da RmrTis xilvis maradiul didebulebas Wvrets da ma-

radiuli keTildReobis moklebas ufro metad dasti-

ris, vidre uwin iglovda maradiuli satanjveliT SeSi-

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nebuli. amgvarad, SiSiT srul gulSemusvrilebas suli

siyvaruliT gulSemusvrilebamde mihyavs. kargad aris

es gadmocemuli am WeSmarit, wmida-istoriul moTxro-

baSi: `(asqana) xma-yo karauliT. da hrqua mas qaleb: raY

ars Senda? rqua mas asqana: momec me kurTxeuli, rameTu

queyana CrdiloeTi momec me, momec aw sarwyavica. da

misca mas qaleb sarwyavi zenaY da sarwyavi quenaY~ (isu

nav. 15, 17-19). saxedarze mjdomare asqana _ ugunuri

xorcieli miswrafebebiT gatacebul suls gamosaxavs.

rogorc is sTxovs mamas wyalsatevebs oxvriT, Cvenc

aseTive sulTqmiT unda gamoviTxovoT uflisgan crem-

li. radgan zogierTs WeSmaritebis dacvis niWi eboZa,

zogs CagrulTa dacvis unari aqvs, zogi upovarT Seewe-

va, zogs moSurne sarwmunoeba aqvs, magram cremlis niWi

jer kidev ara aqvT, amitom maT urwyavi da mSrali miwa

aqvT da wyalsatevi esaWiroebaT. maT keTili saqmeebi

moSurnedac rom aRasrulon, aucileblad sWirdebaT

tanjvis SiSiT Tu caTa sasufevlis siyvaruliT daiti-

ron Zveli codvebi. rogorc vTqviT, orgvari gulSe-

musvrileba arsebobs; mama aZlevs mas zemo da qvemo

wyalsatevebs. suli daimkvidrebs zemo wyalsatevebs,

rodesac caTa sasufevlis damkvidrebis survili mwuxa-

rebis cremls aRuZravs. suli qvemo wyalsatevebs daim-

kvidrebs maSin, rodesac tiris jojoxeTuri satanjve-

liT SeZrwunebuli. Tumca jer gveZleva qvemo wyalsa-

tevi, Semdeg ki _ zemo, magram, radgan siyvaruliT

gulSemusvrileba RirsebiT ufro maRla dgas, amitom

aucilebeli iyo jer zemo wyalsatevebi mogvexsenebina,

xolo Semdeg _ qvemo.

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petre: Seni ganmartebiT gulsavse var. magram mas

Semdeg, rac Tqvi, Tu rogor srulyofilebas flobda

elefTeri, minda vicode, amJamadac Tu arseboben amqvey-

nad aseTi adamianebi.

Tavi ocdameTxuTmete

amanci, tusciis olqis presviteri

grigoli: tiburis eklesiis episkoposi floridi,

romlis siwminde da simarTlismoyvareba cnobilia Sen-

Tvis, miambobda, rom mas erTi presviteri hyavda, saxe-

lad amanci. is gansakuTrebuli ubraloebiT gamoirCeo-

da da, misi sityviT, imgvari niWi hqonda, rom mociqul-

Ta msgavsad, avadmyofebs xelis dadebiT kurnavda da

rac ar unda mZime yofiliyo avadmyofoba, misi SexebiT

qreboda. amancis Sesaxeb is kidev amgvar saswauls miam-

bobda: es moRvawe sadac mZvinvare qvewarmavals naxavda,

jvris gadasaxviT klavda _ mas Signeuloba uskdeboda.

Tu qvewarmavali soroSi daemaleboda, is soros jvars

gadasaxavda da qvewarmavali iqidan myisve mkvdari ga-

mohyavdaT. vcdilobdi amgvari Zalis mqone adamians Sev-

xvedrodi da rodesac is CemTan moiyvanes, movisurve

ramdenime dRe saavadmyofoSi darCeniliyo, raTa gamoCe-

niliyo, hqonda Tu ara mas kurnebis niWi.

danarCen avadmyofebs Soris erTi gonebaSeSlili

avadmyofic iyo. erTxel avadmyofobis Semotevis dros

is xmamaRla ayvirda da yvela iq myofi imgvarad Seawu-

xa, rom Zilis saSualebas ar aZlevda. rac erTisTvis

cudi iyo, danarCenebisTvis kidev ufro uaresi aRmoC-

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nda. pirvelad Rirsi floridisgan, romelic maSin

presviterTan erTad iq imyofeboda, Semdeg ki avadmyo-

febis momvleli yrmisgan zedmiwevniT Sevityve, rom

Rirsi presviteri wamodga sawolidan, gonebaSeSlil

adamians uxmod miuaxlovda, xeli daasxa da locva da-

iwyo. rodesac avadmyofs mdgomareoba Seumsubuqda, Se-

nobis zeda nawilSi mdebare samlocveloSi gadaiyvana,

sadac misTvis kidev ufro meti mondomebiT iloca da

Tavis sawolTan gamojanmrTelebuli daabruna. amis Sem-

deg mas aRar dauyviria da wamoZaxiliT aRaravin Seuwu-

xebia, gons moego da sxva avadmyofebs mdgomareobas

aRar umZimebda. mxolod am erTi saswaulis mixedviT

gvmarTebs yovelive marTebulad miviCnioT, rasac wmida

elefTeris Sesaxeb ambobdnen.

petre: didad ganmswavleli magaliTia _ aseTi didi

saswaulTmoqmedi mamebi dedamiwaze ixilo da Sens Tana-

moqalaqeebSi zeciur ierusalims Wvretde.

Tavi ocdameTeqvsmete

sirakuzis episkoposi maqsimiane

grigoli: giambob saswauls, romlis aRsruleba yov-

lisSemZle RmerTma odesRac Tavis mona maqsimianze ine-

ba, romelic amJamad sirakuzis episkoposia, adre ki Ce-

mi monastris winamZRvari iyo. rodesac Cveni pirvelie-

rarqis brZanebiT konstantinopolis sasaxleSi saekle-

sio apokrisiaris Tanamdebobas vasrulebdi, Cemdami ke-

Tilganwyobilebis gamo Rirsi maqsimiane ZmebTan erTad

mestumra. rodesac is romSi, Cems monasterSi brunde-

boda, adriatikis zRvaze saSinel RelvaSi moyva da da-

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narCen mgzavrebTan erTad, sruliad uCveulod da saswa-

ulebrivad, sakuTar Tavze yovlisSemZle RmerTis ris-

xva da wyaloba gamoscada. saSineli talRebi, romelsac

qariSxali aRZravda, maT sikvdiliT emuqreboda: xomal-

dis saWe gatyda, anZa qarma moglija, ialqnebi wyalze

micuravda da talRebma xomaldi mTlianad daaziana.

napralebSi wyali Sevida da xomaldi zemo gembanamde

ise aavso, rom xomaldi ki ar Canda wyalze, aramed wya-

li _ xomaldSi. maSin, xomaldSi myofni, ara Tu moax-

loebuli, aramed cxadi da xiluli sikvdilis SiSiT,

erTmaneTs gamoeTxovnen, uflis wmida xorcsa da

sisxls eziarnen da TiToeuli RmerTs evedreboda, mow-

yalebiT mieRo maTi sulebi mas Semdeg, rac maT sxeu-

lebs aseTi sazareli aRsasruli ganuCina. yovlisSem-

Zle RmerTma, romelmac maT amgvari SiSi mohgvara, maTi

sicocxle saswaulebrivad ixsna. piramde wyliT avsebu-

li xomaldi rva dRis ganmavlobaSi Tavisi gziT micu-

ravda, mecxre dRes ki krotonis navsadgurs miuaxlov-

da. yvela, vinc xomaldze Rirs maqsimianesTan erTad

iyo, sruliad uvneblad gadarCa. rogorc ki xomaldi-

dan gadavidnen, is myisve fskerisken daeSva, TiTqos ada-

mianTa gadasvlis Semdeg wona ki ar moaklda, aramed

simsubuqe dakarga. wyliTa da xalxiT savse xomaldi

zRvaze micuravda, xolo rodesac maqsimianem da misma

Zmebma datoves igi, maT gareSe wyali veRar itvirTa.

amiT yovlisSemZle RmerTma gviCvena, rom mas datvir-

Tuli xomaldi Tavisi xeliT epyra, xolo rodesac xal-

xi gadavida da dacarielda, raRa saWiro iyo misi dato-

veba?

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Tavi ocdameCvidmete

sanktula, nursiis olqis presviteri

ormociode dRis win Sen CemTan RrmTismosavi presvi-

teri sanktula naxe, romelic ukve vaxseneT. is nursiis

provinciidan CemTan yovel wels modioda. sami dRis win

iqidan erTi monazoni movida da samwuxaro ambavi _ san-

ktulas aRsruleba gvamcno. Tumca ucremlod ar Zal-

miZs am Tavmdabali adamianis gaxseneba, magram amJamad

uSiSrad SemiZlia giambo im saswaulebis Sesaxeb, rom-

lebic misi mezobeli mRvdelmsaxurebisagan Sevityve,

isini uaRresad simarTlismoyvareni da gulwrfelni

arian. erTmaneTis mimarT keTilganwyobileba adamianebs

gabedulebas matebs; mis Tavmdablobas xSirad vamar-

cxebdi da is Tavadac miambobda mis mier bolo dros aR-

srulebul saswaulebs. erTxel longobardebi zeTis-

xils wuravdnen. sanktula, romelsac sasiamovno gareg-

noba da aseTive xasiaTi hqonda, maT carieli tikiT miu-

axlovda, mSromelebs mxiaruli saxiT miesalma da uf-

ro metad mbrZaneblurad, vidre TxovniT, SesTavaza

misTvis tiki zeTiT aevsoT. longobardebi, romlebic

mTeli dRe amaod daSvrnen (miuxedavad mTeli dRis wva-

lebisa, zeTi ver gamowures), gabrazdnen da Seuracxyo-

fa dauwyes. maSin RmrTis kacma kidev ufro mxiaruli

saxiT upasuxa: `iloceT CemTvis, auvseT sanktulas es

tiki da is Tavs daganebebT~. amasobaSi longobardebi

amao SromiTa da RmrTis kacis daJinebuli TxovniT gan-

risxdnen da mas ufro metad Seuracxyofdnen. RmrTis

kacma wyali moiTxova, yvelas Tvalwin akurTxa da sa-

wurs Tavisi xeliT daasxa. kurTxevis ZaliT, sawuridan

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myisve zeTi gadmovida da Tanac imdeni, rom aqamde amaod

damaSvralma longobardebma yvela WurWeli aavses da

RmrTis kacsac gauvses tiki. maT madloba imas Seswires,

vinc zeTs maTgan iTxovda da Tavisi kurTxeviT is misca,

rasac maTgan iTxovda.

sxva dros, rodesac yvelgan Zlieri SimSiloba mZvin-

varebda, longobardebma wmida mowame lavrentis taZari

dawves. mis aRsadgenad RmrTis kacma mravali ostati da

muSa moiwvia. yoveldRiurad maTi Sromis anazRaureba

aucilebeli gaxda, magram radgan SimSiloba iyo, puri

SemoeliaT. xelosnebs saWmlis simciris gamo Zala ar

hqondaT, rom emuSavaT da purs daJinebiT iTxovdnen.

RmrTis kaci garegnulad maT gamxnevebas cdilobda da

danaklisis Sevsebas dahpirda, magram Sinaganad Zlier

itanjeboda, radgan danapirebis asruleba SeuZlebeli

iyo. rodesac aRelvebuli bolTas scemda, Rumels miu-

axlovda, sadac cota xnis win mezobelma dedakacebma

puri gamoacxves da SigniT Seixeda, rom enaxa maT puri

xom ar darCaT. uecrad RumelSi uzarmazari da uCveu-

lod TeTri puri dainaxa. man puri gamoiRo, magram mu-

SebTan waReba ver gabeda, radgan ifiqra, Tu puri sxvisi

iyo, sikeTis gakeTebis sababiT SeiZleboda codvaSi Ca-

vardniliyo. amgvarad, man puri mezobel dedakacebTan

waiRo, yvelas aCvena da ekiTxeboda, RumelSi xom ar

darCaT. yovelma maTganma iuara. maSin RmrTis kaci mu-

SebTan sixaruliT gaeSura erTi puriT, RmerTs madli

Seswira da isini puris saWmelad miiwvia. rodesac Wa-

mes, wmindanma narCenebi moagrova da isini purze meti

aRmoCnda. narCenebi maT meore dRes kidev SesTavaza, mag-

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ram Wamis Semdeg mogrovili narCenebi isev SeTavaze-

bulze meti aRmoCnda. amgvarad, aTi dRis ganmavlobaSi

xelosnebi da muSebi yoveldRiurad erTi puriT ikvebe-

bodnen da Wamis Semdeg narCenebi meore dRisTvis rCebo-

da, TiTqos sazrdeli mWamelTa pirSi mravldeboda.

petre: saocari ambavia, uflis mier aRsrulebul

saswauls magonebs.

grigoli: TviT man, vinc xuTi puriT xuTi aTasi kaci

ganaZRo, vinc pawawina marcvlidan samkalad uamrav na-

yofs gvaZlevs, vinc miwidan Tavad Tesls aRmoacenebs da

yovelives arafrisagan qmnis, Tavisi monis saSualebiT

erTi puriT mravali adamiani aqac man ganaZRo. magram

Rirsi sanktulas garegani saqmeebi, romelTac RmrTis

ZaliT aRasrulebda, sakvirvelad rom ar mogeCvenos,

ismine, TviTon is imave Zalis meoxebiT Sinaganad rogo-

ri iyo. erTxel longobardebma erTi diakvani daatyve-

ves, borkilebSi hyavdaT da bolos misi mokvla gadaw-

yvites. saRamoxans sanktula longobardebTan mivida da

diakvnis gaTavisufleba da misTvis sicocxlis SenarCu-

neba sTxova. maT uari uTxres. bolos sTxova misTvis mi-

ebarebinaT. `mogabarebT, _ uTxres longobardebma, _

magram im pirobiT, rom Tu gaiqceva, imis nacvlad Sen

mogklavT~. RmrTis kaci sixaruliT daTanxmda da diak-

vani sakuTari pasuxismgeblobiT wamoiyvana. SuaRamiT,

rodesac longobardebs eZinaT, man diakvani gaaRviZa da

uTxra: `adeqi da swrafad gaiqeci. yovlisSemZle Rmer-

Tma gadagarCinos!~ diakvans sanktulas aRTqma axsovda

da uTxra: `ver gaviqcevi, mamao, imitom, rom Sen mog-

klaven~, magram RmrTis kaci aiZulebda gaqceuliyo:

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`adeqi da gaiqeci, yovlisSemZle RmerTi Segewios, me ki

_ mis xelT var, isini ise momeqcevian, rasac is CemTvis

dauSvebs~. diakvani gaiqca, xolo misi meurve, TiTqosda

motyuebuli, marto darCa. meore dRes longobardebma

tyve ukanve moiTxoves, magram RmrTismosavma presvi-

terma miugo, rom diakvani gaiqca. `Sen ici, rac moge-

lis~, _ uTxres longobardebma. `vici~, _ upasuxa

mtkiced RmrTis kacma. _`Sen keTili kaci xar, _ uTxra

longobardma, _ wamebiT ar mogklavT. TviTon amoirCie,

rogori sikvdili gsurs!~ `me RmerTis xelTa var, _

upasuxa wmindanma, _ imgvarad momkaliT, rogorc is Ca-

gagonebT~. maSin longobardebma erToblivad gadawyvi-

tes, misTvis Tavi moekveTaT, rom swrafad da naklebi

tanjviT aRsrulebuliyo. im mxareSi myofi longobar-

debi sanktulas wmida cxovrebis gamo pativs scemdnen,

magram uCveulod sastiki bunebis gamo Seikribnen, rom

misi sikvdilis cqeriT damtkbariyvnen: TavianTi adgi-

lebi daikaves, uZlieresTa Soris SearCies erT-erTi,

romelic Tavis mokveTas erTi dartymiT SeZlebda da

RmrTis kaci SuagulSi gamoiyvanes. SeiaraRebul adami-

anTa Soris myofma wmindanma Tavis iaraRs mimarTa _ man

locvis neba iTxova. mas amis ufleba misces da sanktula

locviT miwaze ganerTxa. ramdenime xanSi jalaTma fexi

wahkra da ubrZana muxli moedrika da Tavi moexara.

RmrTis mona adga, muxli moidrika da qedi moxara, mag-

ram gaSiSvlebul xmals rom Sexeda, rogorc amboben,

xmamaRla warmoTqva: `wmidao ioane! Seakave igi!~ ja-

laTma Zlierad moiqnia xeli, rom misTvis daertya, mag-

ram xeli gauSeSda, verafriT dauSva Zirs da zeaRmar-

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Tuli darCa. sasikvdilo ganaCenis sayureblad Sekre-

bilma xalxma RmrTis kacs qebisa da pativiscemis gamom-

xatveli alersiani SeZaxilebiT mimarTa, radgan cxa-

dad ixila, ra wmida iyo is, vinc jalaTs xeli SeuCera.

wmindani maTi TxovniT wamodga, magram rodesac jala-

TisTvis xelis gankurneba sTxoves, uari uTxra: `mis-

Tvis ver viloceb, Tuki ar daificebs, rom am xeliT

arc erT qristians aRar moklavs~. longobardi, rome-

lic kvlav RmerTis winaaRmdeg aRmarTuli xeliT idga,

samarcxvino mdgomareobiT iZulebuli Seiqna daefica,

rom aRar moklavda qristianebs. maSin RmrTis monam

Tqva: `dauSvi xeli~ da man maSinve dauSva. Semdeg wmin-

danma Tqva: `xmali qarqaSSi Caage~. manac maSinve Caago.

longobardebma sanktulaSi didi wmindani rom Seicnes,

rigrigobiT motacebul xarebsa da cxenebs sTavazob-

dnen, magram RmrTis kacma amgvari ZRvenis miRebaze uari

Tqva da maTgan ukeTesi jildo gamoiTxova: `Tuki gsurT

raime SemomwiroT, maSin Tqveni yvela tyve me momeciT,

rom mizezi mqondes RmerTis winaSe TqvenTvis viloco ~.

mas survili Seusrules: yvela tyve masTan erTad gaa-

Tavisufles da amgvarad, RmrTis mowyalebiT, erTma,

romelmac Tavi meore adamianisTvis gaswira, sikvdili-

sagan mravali ixsna.

petre: sakvirveli ambavia! Tumca amis Sesaxeb mec

msmenia, magram gamogitydebi, rodesac miamboben, kvlav

yuradRebiT vismen.

grigoli: sanktulas saswauli nu gagakvirvebs; Tuki

SegiZlia, gansaje, is, vinc aseTi gulmarTali iyo da

saTnoebis aseT maRal safexurze idga, riT aRiZvroda?

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sad imyofeboda misi goneba, rodesac aseTi simtkiciT

moyvasisTvis Tavis gawirva gadawyvita, ZmisTvis droe-

biTi sicocxlis gasaxangrZliveblad sakuTari sicoc-

xle moiZula da maxvils qedi mouxara? mis guls rogo-

ri siyvarulis Zala aRafrTovanebda, rodesac ar Se-

Sinda moyvasis sicocxle sakuTari sikvdiliT gamoesyi-

da? WeSmaritad cnobilia, rom Rirsma sanktulam kar-

gad kiTxvac ki ar icoda da sjuli wignebiT ar uswav-

lia, aramed vinaidan `aRmasrulebeli SjulisaÁ siyua-

ruli ars~ (rom. 13, 10), RmrTisa da moyvasis mimarT

siyvaruliT man sjuli srulad aRasrula. rac ar us-

wavlia, masSi siyvaruliT cocxlobda da moqmedebda.

man, visac SesaZloa arasodes waukiTxavs mxsnelis Sesa-

xeb mociqul ioanes sityvebi: `man suli TÂsi CuenTÂs

dadva da Cuenca Tana-guac ZmaTaTÂs sulTa CuenTa dade-

baÁ~ (1 ioan. 3, 16), ara sityviT, aramed saqmiT aCvena,

rom icis mociqulis es maRali mcneba. Tu gnebavs, misi

ganaTlebuli ucodinroba Cvens mecnierul codnas Seva-

daroT. sadac Cveni codna mkvdaria, iq misi Semecnebaa

moqmedi. Cven saTnoebaTa Sesaxeb gulgrilad vsaubrobT

da nayofier xeTa Soris TiTqos mxolod xilis sur-

nels SevigrZnobT, magram maT gemos ver vigebT. man ki

icoda, TviT saTnoebaTa nayofebiT rogor esargebla,

Tumca sityvebiT maTi gakeTilsurneleba ar SeeZlo.

petre: rogor fiqrob, mudmivad ratom iklebs saT-

noebis moqmedTa raodenoba? ratom aris, rom iseT ada-

mians, vinc mravalTa gansaswavlad unda cocxlobdes,

srulebiT ver ipovi an sul ufro iSviaTad Sexvdebi?

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grigoli: adamianTa biwierebis gamo keTilmsaxuri

adamianebi gaiyvanebian maTgan da rodesac qveynierebis

aRsasruli moaxlovdeba, rCeulni aRtacebul iqnebian,

raTa bilwi araferi ixilon. amitom brZanebs winaswar-

metyveli: `ixileT, viTar warwymda marTali da aravin

moelis guliTa da kacni marTalni aRixumian, da aravin

gulisxma-hyofs, rameTu pirisagan sicruisasa aRebul

ars marTali~ (es. 57,1). da solomonic ambobs: `Jami qva-

Ta mimofantvisa da Jami maTi Segrovebisa~ (ekl. 3, 5).

amitom, qveynierebis aRsasruli rac ufro axlovdeba,

miT ufro aucilebelia zeciuri saxlisaTvis cocxali

qvebis Segroveba, vidre Cveni ierusalimis Senoba Tavis

zomas ar miaRwevs. Tumca gvwams, rom amqveynidan yvela

rCeuli ar iqneba gayvanili da aq mxolod biwieri ada-

mianebi ar darCebian, imitom, rom codvilebi arasodes

Seinanebdnen, saTnoebis magaliTebi rom ar hqondeT,

romlebic maT sulebs atyveveben.

petre: amgvarad, amaod vwuxvar, rom saTnoebis moq-

medTa ricxvi mcirdeba, rodesac vxedav, rom uRirsnic

mravlad iRupebian.

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Tavi ocdameTvramete

ferentis episkopos redemptis xilva

grigoli: nu gikvirs, petre. SenTvis ferentis epis-

koposi redempti cnobili iyo, romelic Rirseulad

cxovrobda da amqveynidan Svidiode wlis win gavida.

rodesac jer kidev monasterSi vcxovrobdi, masTan ax-

lo urTierToba mqonda da man Cemi TxovniT miambo, rom

Cemi winamorbedis, pap ioane umcrosis dros qveyniere-

bis aRsasrulis Sesaxeb emcno. amis Sesaxeb sxvebmac

ician. man Semdegi ram miambo: erTxel, Cveulebisamebr,

is Tavisi samwysos mosanaxuleblad iyo da wmida mowame

evtiqis taZarTan SeCerda. saRamoxans brZana misTvis sa-

receli mowamis saflavTan moemzadebinaT da SromiT da-

qanculi mosasveneblad iq dawva. SuaRamemde Zil-Rvi-

ZilSi iyo; daRliloba Zilisken izidavda, magram misi

suli, TiTqos raRac simZimiT SeWirvebuli, mRviZareb-

da. amgvar mdgomareobaSi myofs wmida mowame evtiqi

warmoudga da uTxra: `redempt, ar gZinavs?~ _ `ar mZi-

navs~, _ miugo man. `yovelgvari xorcielis aRsasruli

axlovdeba, _ ganagrZobda wmindani, _ yovelgvari xor-

cielis aRsasruli axlovdeba, yovelgvari xorcielis

aRsasruli axlovdeba!~ samgzis gameorebis Semdeg mowa-

mis gamocxadeba, romelic redemptis sulier Tvals

warmoudga, gaqra. RmrTis mona wamodga da cremliT

locva daiwyo. male caze sazareli niSnebi gamoCnda.

CrdiloeTis mxares cecxlovani isrebi da Subebi Canda.

Semdeg TavianTi sacxovreblebidan sazareli longobar-

debi gamovidnen da Tavs dagvesxnen. auracxeli adamiani,

rogorc TavTavebi mkis dros, Semusvrili iyo. qalaqebi

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ukacrieli iyo, cixe-simagreebi _ dangreuli, soflebi

_ mitovebuli, mindvrebi _ daumuSavebeli da gaudabu-

rebuli, erTi mcxovrebic ki arsad Canda; iq, sadac uwin

adamianebi saxlobdnen, veluri cxovelebi dasaxldnen.

_ ar vici, sxvagan ra xdeba, magram iq, sadac Cven vcxov-

robT, qveynierebis aRsasruli araTu axlos aris, ara-

med moiwia kidec. amitom CvenTvis aucilebelia maradi-

uli miT meti simtkiciT veZioT, rac ufro swrafad

qreba warmavali. Cven es sofeli maSinac ki unda mogve-

Zulebina, bednierebiT rom movexibleT, magram Tuki is

amgvari WiriT ganigmireba, amgvari ubedurebiT iTrgu-

neba, yoveldRiurad aseT gansacdels Sobs _ amiT ras

gvaswavlis, Tu ara imas, rom ar gviyvardes? rCeul mo-

sagreTa Rvawlis Sesaxeb kidev mravali ramis Txroba

SeiZleba, magram amaze davdumdebi, radgan vCqarob sxva

ram giambo.

petre: SemimCnevia, rom wmida eklesiis wiaRSi imqvey-

niuri cxovrebis gamo mravalni arian daeWvebulni. ami-

tom gTxov, gonebismieri gansjiT an magaliTebiT, rom-

lebic mogagondeba, daeWvebulTa gansaswavlad aCveno,

rom suli xorcTan erTad ar kvdeba.

grigoli: es rTuli saqmea, gansakuTrebiT imisTvis,

vinc dakavebulia da mxedvelobaSi sul sxva ram aqvs.

magram Tuki arseboben adamianebi, romlebic sargebels

ipovian, uyoymanod, ramdenadac RmrTis mowyaleba Seme-

weva, meoTxe wignSi vaCveneb, rom suli xorcieli sik-

vdilis Semdegac cocxlobs.

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wig n i m eoTxe

Tavi pirveli

xorciel adamianebs maradiuli da sulieri ar

swamT, imitom, rom gamocdilebiT ar ician is, rac

sulieris Sesaxeb smeniaT

grigoli: kacobriobis pirvelmSobelma, romelmac

Secodebis gamo samoTxiseuli netareba dakarga, sibrma-

visa da gandevnis ubadrukeba itvirTa, romelSic amJa-

mad Cvenc vimyofebiT. codvis gziT is sakuTari Tavidan

ganvarda da ar SeuZlia zeciuri samSoblos is nayofi

Seitkbos, romliTac adre tkbeboda. samoTxeSi adamiani

TviT RmerTis sityvis mosmenas mieCvia; gulis siwmindi-

sa da Wvretis simaRlis meoxebiT netari sulebis _ an-

gelozebis garemocvaSi iyo; magram mas Semdeg, rac aq

Camovarda, gonebrivi naTeli moaklda, romliTac avse-

buli iyo. gangdebis sibneleSi misgan xorcielad So-

bilT Tumca gvesmis zeciuri samSoblos, misi moqalaqe-

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ebis _ RmerTis angelozebis, angelozTa Tanamoqalaqee-

bis _ marTalTa da srulyofil sulTa Sesaxeb, magram

radgan uxilavis Secnoba gamocdilebis gareSe SeuZle-

belia, xorcieli adamianebi eWvoben, marTlac arsebobs

Tu ara is, rasac xorcieli TvalebiT ver xedaven. ra

Tqma unda, Cvens pirvelmSobelSi amgvari eWvi ar arse-

bobda; samoTxiseuli netarebis moklebis Semdeg mas Se-

morCa mogoneba imis Sesaxeb, rac dakarga, imitom, rom

is nanaxi hqonda. xorcieli adamianebi ki ver SeigrZno-

ben imas, rac esmiT. maT sakuTari gamocdilebiT ar Se-

ucvniaT is ise, rogorc pirvelmSobelma icoda, yovel

SemTxvevaSi, Tundac _ rogorc warsuli. magaliTad,

fexmZime dedakaci sapyrobileSi rom Seamwyvdion da

Svili iq dabados, romelic iqve gaizrdeba da deda rom

uambobdes mzis, mTvaris, varskvlavebisa da mindvrebis,

caSi afrenil frinvelebisa da morbenali cxenebis Se-

saxeb, bavSvi, romelic sapyrobileSi daibada da gaizar-

da da sibnelis meti amqveynad araferi unaxavs, albaT

mosmenils ver daijerebs, imitom, rom sakuTari gamoc-

dilebiT ar ecodineba. aseve arian adamianebi, romlebic

TavianTi gandevnis sibneleSi iSvnen _ rodesac umaRle-

si da uxilavi sagnebis Sesaxeb esmiT, ar sjeraT, mar-

Tlac arseboben Tu ara isini, imitom, rom mxolod um-

dables sagnebs icnoben, xilulT, romelTa Sorisac iS-

vnen. ai, amitom TviT xilulTa da uxilavTa Semoqmedi,

mamis mxolodSobili Ze kacobriobis dasaxsnelad movi-

da da gulebSi suliwmida warmogvigzavna, raTa mis mier

gancxovelebulebma (sulierad gacocxlebulebma) vir-

wmunoT is, rac gamocdilebiT ar viciT. amitom, ramde-

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nadac miviRebT am suls, `romeli-igi ars windi

mkÂdrobisa CuenisaÁ~ (efes. 1, 14), ukve uxilavis arse-

bobas aRar veWvobT, xolo vinc rwmenaSi ganmtkicebuli

ar aris, ueWvelia, srulyofil adamianTa sityvebs unda

endos, romlebmac suliwmidis meoxebiT uxilavi Seic-

nes. rogori ugunuri iqneboda sapyrobileSi aRzrdili

yrma, Tuki dedis naambobs sinaTlis Sesaxeb sicrued

mxolod imis gamo CaTvlida, rom TviTon araferi uxi-

lavs, garda sapyrobilis wyvdiadisa.

petre: veTanxmebi Sens naTqvams, magram visac uxila-

vis ar swams, is sruliad urwmunoa. xolo sruliad ur-

wmuno imis rwmenas ki ar eZiebs, rac aeWvebs, aramed mis

mtkicebulebas.

Tavi meore

rwmena urwmunosac aqvs

grigoli: Tamamad SemiZlia giTxra, rom rwmena ur-

wmunosac aqvs. urwmunos rom daekiTxo, misi mama an de-

da vin aris, is uyoymanod gipasuxebs, rom esa da es. Sem-

deg rom hkiTxo, Tu icis rodis Caisaxa an Tu naxa Tavi-

si dabadeba, is aRiarebs, rom ar icis da ar unaxavs.

Tumca sjera is, rac ar unaxavs, radgan mamasa da dedas

uyoymanod asaxelebs.

petre: gamogitydebi, aqamde ar vicodi, rom rwmena

urwmunosac aqvs.

grigoli: rwmena urwmunoTac aqvT, magram _ hoi,

RmerTis rwmena rom hqondeT, maSin urwmunoni ar iqne-

bodnen! maT urwmunoebas swored is gansjis, rwmenisken

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mxilebiT swored is mouwodebs, rom sakuTari xiluli

sxeulis mimarT is swamT, rac ar uxilavT, xolo uxi-

lavi ar swamT, romlis xilva xorcieli TvalebiT arc

SeuZliaT.

Tavi mesame

samgvari cocxali sulis Sesaxeb

suli sxeulis sikvdilis Semdeg sicocxles rom ga-

nagrZobs, amas morwmune goneba mowmobs. yovlisSemZle

RmerTma samgvari cocxali suli Seqmna: erTi maTgani

sxeulTan SeerTebuli ar aris; meore _ sxeulTanaa Se-

erTebuli, magram masTan erTad ar kvdeba; mesame _ sxe-

ulTanaa SeerTebuli da masTan erTad kvdeba. suli, ro-

melic sxeulTan araa SeerTebuli, aris angelozTa su-

li. suli, romelic sxeulTanaa SeerTebuli, magram

masTan erTad ar kvdeba, adamianTa sulia; xolo suli,

romelic sxeulTanaa SeerTebuli da masTan erTad kvde-

ba, aris cxovelTa suli. amgvarad, adamiani erTgvarad

SuaSia moqceuli: angelozze _ qveviT da cxovelze _

zeviT. umaRlesTanac da umdablesTanac saerTo aqvs, anu

sulis ukvdavebiT angelozs uaxlovdeba, sxeulis

xrwnadobiT _ cxovels, manamde, sanam aRdgomis dideba

TviT sxeulis xrwnadobas Sewyvets, rodesac sulTan

SeerTebuli sxeuli saukunod iqneba daculi xrwnile-

bisagan iseve, rogorc sxeulTan SeerTebuli suli uk-

vdavia uflis madliT. amitom TviT gangdebulTa sxeuls

(mkvdreTiT aRmdgars) tanjva ar gaanadgurebs. is mara-

diul tanjvaSi iarsebebs, raTa suliT da xorciT Sem-

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codeni suliTa da xorciT maradiulad kvdebodnen da

amave dros cocxlebi rCebodnen (yofierebis mixedviT).

petre: morwmune gonebisTvis gasagebia is, rasac Sen

ambob, magram, Tuki adamianTa da cxovelTa sulebs am-

gvarad ganasxvaveb, miTxari, geTayva, ras niSnavs solo-

monis sityvebi: `vTqvi Cems gulSi: ase gamocdis Turme

RmerTi adamis ZeTa, raTa darwmundnen, rom TavisTavad

pirutyvebi arian mxolod. radgan kacis da pirutyvis

xvedri erTia~ (ekl. 3, 18-19). sakuTari azris zedmiwev-

niT gadmosacemad kidev ambobs: `erTis sikvdili meori-

sas hgavs da yvelas erTi suli udgas, kaci pirutyvze

verafriT ver upiratesobs~ (3, 19). da Semdeg saerTo

ganmartebisTvis daurTavs sityvebs: `yvelaferi amaoa,

yovelive erT adgils miva; yvelaferi miwisganaa da yve-

laferi miwad iqceva~ (3, 19-20).

Tavi meoTxe

solomonis sityvebi: kacis da pirutyvis xvedri

(aRsasruli) erTia

grigoli: solomonis wigns, romelSic es sityvebi

weria, hqvia eklesiaste. eklesiaste mqadagebels niS-

navs. qadageba, Cveulebriv, azrs sTavazobs, romelic

xalxis xmauriani krebulis mRelvarebas acxrobs. mqa-

dageblis sityvebi mravalT Tanamoazred xdis, romle-

bic sxvadasxvagvarad fiqroben. mqadagebeli am wignsac

imitom hqvia, rom masSi solomoni TiTqos im azrebs gai-

Tavisebs, rac mRelvare krebuls awuxebs, raTa maTi

ganxilvis Semdeg is Tqvas, rasac gamoucdeli krebulic

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Caswvdeba da daeTanxmeba. ramden azrsac ganxilvis

dros wamoWris (mqadagebeli), TviTon imdenive gansxva-

vebul pirs warmoadgens. WeSmariti mqadagebeli TiTqos

mRelvarebas gawvdili xeliT aCerebs da yvelas aiZu-

lebs, erT azrs daeTanxmos; msgavsadve is wignis bolos

ambobs: `[yvelam]1 movisminoT yvelafris Tavi da bolo:

RvTisa geSinodes da daicavi mcnebani misni, radgan es

aris kacis Tavi da Tavi~ (ekl. 12, 13). Tuki am wignSi ga-

moTqmul sityvaSi is mravalT ar warmoadgens, maSin

yvelas risTvis mouwodebs, masTan erTad sityvis bolo

moisminon? amgvarad, vinc wignis boloSi ambobs: `yve-

lam movisminoT~, is Tavad amowmebs, rom Tavis TavSi

mraval pirs gulisxmobs da marto ar laparakobs. ami-

tom am wignSi zogierTi azri mxolod gansaxilvelad

aris gamoTqmuli, sxvebi _ gonebas akmayofileben; er-

Tni ekuTvnian meryevi adamianis suls, romelic jer ki-

dev amqveyniur siamovnebebSia Cafluli; sxvebi _ gone-

basTan TanxmobiT mocemulia imisTvis, rom suli amgva-

ri siamovnebebisgan ganvayenoT. amgvarad, am wignSi so-

lomoni ambobs: `ai, sad vxedav me sikeTes, Sesafer saq-

mes; Wamos kacma, svas da ixaros Tavisi RvawliT am mzis-

qveSeTSi~ (ekl. 5, 17). ufro qveviT ki ganagrZobs: `ti-

rilSi wasvla sjobs lxinSi wasvlas~ (ekl. 7, 2). Tuki

Wama-sma aris kargi, maSin lxinSi wasvla ukeTesi unda

iyos, vidre tirilSi. aqedan Cans, rom pirveli _ gone-

biT umwifarTa saxeliT aris gamoTqmuli, xolo ukanas-

1 asea orginalSi, rogorc Cans laTinuri bibliis mixedviT. _

mTargmnelis SeniSvna.

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kneli _ Tavisi srulyofili moZRvrebis saxeliT aqvs

darTuli. raki gonivrul mizezebs warmogvidgens, is

sargebelsac gviCvenebs, romelsac adamiani tirilSi

hpovebs: `radgan iq aris bolo kacisa; cocxalma kacma

yurad iRos~ (ekl. 7, 2), anu tirilSi yoveli adamianis

aRsasrulia miTiTebuli da cocxali adamiani fiqrs iw-

yebs, Tu ra moelis. iqve weria: `ixare, yrmao, vidre

norCi xar~ (ekl. 11, 9) da cota qvemoT urTavs: `bavSvo-

bac da siymawvilec amaoa da warmavali~ (ekl. 11, 10).

Tuki is, rogorc amaos, imas amxels, riskenac manamde

mouwodebda, es cxadad gviCvenebs, rom pirveli sityve-

bi TiTqos miwieri adamianis saxeliT aris gamoTqmuli,

xolo ukanaskneli _ daurTo WeSmaritebis ganCinebiT.

amgvarad, miwier adamianTa siamovnebis gamoxatviT,

romlebic sazrunavebs miscemian, gvamcnobs, rom kargia

Wama-sma, Semdeg imaves, gonebis ganCinebiT, uaryofs

sityvebiT, rom umjobesia tirilSi wasvla, vidre _

lxinSi. aseve, yrmis mxiarulebas siyrmeSi erTgvarad

miwier adamianTa saxeliT gvTavazobs, xolo azris gan-

martebis Semdeg, bavSvobasac da garTobasac amaos uwo-

debs. swored aseve, Cveni mqadagebeli gonebiT umwifar-

Ta saxeliT gvTavazobs azrs, rodesac ambobs: `radgan

kacis da pirutyvis xvedri erTia _ erTis sikvdili me-

orisas hgavs da yvelas erTi suli udgas, kaci pirut-

yvze verafriT ver upiratesobs, radgan yvelaferi ama-

oa~ (ekl. 3, 19), xolo gonebisagan sxva azrs gvTavazobs:

`umetes ars brZeni ugunurisa, rameTu icis glaxakman

slvaY winaSe cxovrebasa missa~ (ekl. 6, 8). amgvarad, is

ambobs: `kaci pirutyvze verafriT ver upiratesobs~,

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Semdeg ki TviTon ganmartavs, rom brZeni ara marto pi-

rutyvs aRemateba, aramed _ ugunur adamiansac; kerZod,

imiT, rom iqiT iswrafvis, sadac aris cxovreba. am sit-

yvebiT is, upirveles yovlisa, gviCvenebs, rom adamianTa

cxovreba aris ara aq, aramed _ sxvagan. aqedan cxadia,

adamians aqvs raRac cxovelze meti imitom, rom cxove-

li sikvdilis Semdeg ar cocxlobs, adamiani ki cxovre-

bas maSin iwyebs, rodesac sikvdilis meoxebiT sxeuli

xilul cxovrebas asrulebs. kidev ufro qveviT is am-

bobs: `risi keTebis Zalac Seswevs Sens xelebs, akeTe;

radgan arc saqme, arc safiqrali, codna an sibrZne ar

gagyveba SaveTSi, sadac midixar~ (ekl. 9, 10). maS, ro-

gorRa aqvT erTnairi bolo adamiansa da pirutyvs da

erTnairi daniSnuleba _ erTsac da meoresac? adamians

pirutyvze meti rogor ara aqvs, rodesac cxovelebi

xorcieli sikvdilis Semdeg sicocxles wyveten, xolo

adamianTa sulebi, borot saqmeTa gamo xorcieli sik-

vdilis Semdeg jojoxeTSi Casulni, TviT sikvdilis

drosac ar kvdebian. amgvari sapirispiro azrebi gviCve-

nebs, rom WeSmariti mqadagebeli erTs meryevi miwieri

adamianebis saxeliT ambobs, xolo meores _ sulieri

WeSmaritebis saxeliT.

petre: kargia, rom imis Sesaxeb gkiTxe, rac ar vico-

di da zedmiwevniT Sevimecne. magram, gTxov, sulgrZe-

leba gamoiCine, Tuki mec, Cveni eklesiastes mibaZviT,

arasrulyofilTa saxes Sevimos, rom imaTve meti sarge-

beli movutano, vidre Cemi piradi gamoZiebiT naxavdnen.

grigoli: rogor ar mogiTmen sulgrZelad, rodesac

Tavad iCen sulgrZelebas moyvasis uZlurebis mimarT,

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rogorc mociquli pavle ambobs: `yovelTa veqmen yov-

lad, raÁTa yovelni vacxovnne~ (1 kor. 9, 22). radgan

Sen siyvaruliT iwyaleb uZlurT, ufro met pativisce-

mas imsaxureb, imitom, rom saxelovan mqadagebels baZav.

Tavi mexuTe

arsebobs Tu ara suli, Tuki sxeulidan gasvlis

Jams misi xilva SeuZlebelia?

petre: erTi Zmis aRsasruls daveswari. man uecrad,

saubris dros suli ganuteva da uceb is, visac CemTan

mosaubres vxedavdi, mkvdari vixile. mas suli aRmoxda

Tu ara, ar daminaxavs da TiTqos Zalian Znelia imgvari

arsebis arsebobis dajereba, romlis xilva aravis Se-

uZlia.

grigoli: ra aris sakvirveli, petre, Tuki sxeuli-

dan amomavali suli ver dainaxe, romelsac verc maSin

xedav, rodesac SenSia? nuTu CemTan saubrisas mxolod

imitom SegiZlia usulod Semracxo, rom CemSi Cemi su-

lis danaxva ar SegiZlia? sulis arseba uxilavia da

sxeulidan iseve uxilavad gadis, rogorc uxilavad im-

yofeba masSi.

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Tavi meeqvse

rogorc sxeulSi myofi sulis sicocxle Seicnoba

asoTa moZraobiT, aseve wmindanis sxeulis sikvdi-

lis Semdeg sulis sicocxle saswaulTa aRsrule-

biT Seicnoba

petre: sxeulSi myofi sulis sicocxlis Secnoba

sxeulis moZraobiT SemiZlia, radgan sxeulSi rom su-

li ar iyos, sxeulis asoebi ver imoZravebdnen. sxeulis

sikvdilis Semdeg sulis sicocxle rogori moZraobebi-

Ta da moqmedebebiT SemiZlia Sevicno, raTa xiluli sag-

nebis mixedviT imisi yofiereba Sevicno, visi xilvac Se-

uZlebelia?

grigoli: arcTu zedmiwevniT zust Sedarebas movix-

mob: rogorc sulis Zala acocxlebs da amoZravebs sxe-

uls, aseve RmerTis Zala aRavsebs yovel qmnilebas: zo-

gierTs Tavisi sunTqviT acxovelebs, sxvebSi sicocxles

Seeweva, xolo zogierTebs yofierebas maTTan yofniT

aniWebs. radgan eWvi ar gepareba, rom arsebobs RmerTi

_ Semoqmedi da warmmarTveli, romelic yovelives

aRavsebs da moicavs, yoveliveze aRmatebuli da yovlis

mpyrobelia, garSemouwereli da uxilavia, amitom arc

is unda gaeWvebdes, rom mas uxilavi msaxurebi hyavs.

xolo msaxurs Sehferis imas miemsgavsos, visac emsaxu-

reba. amdenad, ueWvelia, rom uxilavs uxilavi msaxure-

bi msaxureben, romelTa arseboba gvwams. vin unda iyvnen

es uxilavi msaxurebi, Tu ara wmida angelozebi da mar-

TalTa sulebi? rogorc sxeulis moZraobis mxilveli

umdablesis mixedviT masSi myofi sulis sicocxleze

msjelob, aseve sxeulidan gasuli sulis sicocxleze

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umaRlesis mixedviT unda imsjelo _ suli uxilavad

cocxlobs, radgan valdebulia emsaxuros uxilav Se-

moqmeds.

petre: yovelives samarTlianad brZaneb; magram imis

rwmenas, risi xilvac xorcieli TvaliT SeuZlebelia,

goneba ar eTanxmeba.

grigoli: rodesac wmida mociquli pavle ambobs:

`ars sarwmunoebaÁ mosavTa maT Zal, saqmeTa mamxilebel

ara-xilulTa~ (ebr. 11, 1), migviTiTebs, rom imisi rwme-

na gvmarTebs, risi xilvac SeuZlebelia. eWvis swrafad

gasafantad getyvi, rom xilulis danaxva uxilavis ga-

reSe SeuZlebelia. ai, magaliTad, Seni xorcieli Tvali

xedavs yovelive xorciels, magram is veraviTar xorci-

els ver dainaxavda, mis mxedvelobas usxeulo arseba

rom ar ganapirobebdes. uxilavi goneba waarTvi da amao

iqneba Tvalis gaxela, romelic manamde xedavda. sulma

rom sxeuli datovos, Seni xorcieli Tvalebi ueWvelad

daixuWeba. amgvarad, Tuki isini TavisiT xedavdnen, ma-

Sin sulis sxeulidan gansvlis Semdeg ratom veRara-

fers xedaven? aqedan gamoitane daskvna, rom yovelive

xilulis danaxvac uxilavis meSveobiT aris SesaZlebe-

li. aseve warmovidginoT, rom saxli Sendeba, udides

simZimeebs sweven, uzarmazari svetebi manqanebzea day-

rdnobili: gekiTxebi, am saqmes vin asrulebs, xiluli

sxeuli, romelic am simZimeebs amoZravebs, Tu uxilavi

suli, romelic sxeuls acxovelebs? sxeuls uxilavi

waarTvi da liTonis grovebi, romelTac amoZravebuls

xedav, umoZrao gaxdeba. aqedan gvmarTebs gamovitanoT

daskvna, rom xilul samyaroSi uxilavad moqmedi Zalis

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gareSe araferi moewyoba. rogorc yovlisSemZle Rmer-

Ti uxilav arsebebs Tavisi sunTqviTa da ganmsWvalviT

acxovelebs da amoZravebs, aseve xilul sxeulebs uxi-

lavi arsebebi ganmsWvalaven, amoZraveben da acxovele-

ben.

petre: gamogitydebi, am damamtkicebeli sabuTebiT

Zleuls, mmarTebs yovelive xiluli (uxilavis gareSe)

araraobad CavTvalo, Tumca aqamde uxilavis mimarT

eWvs gamovTqvamdi, raki (rwmenaSi) uZlurT warmovad-

gendi. amgvarad, yovelives veTanxmebi, rac Sen Tqvi;

amasTan, ramdenadac sxeulSi myofi sulis sicocxle

sxeulis moZraobiT Seicnoba, amdenad xiluli movlene-

bis damowmebiT, sxeulis sikvdilis Semdeg sulis si-

cocxlis Sesaxeb msurs Sevityo.

grigoli: Tuki am sakiTxis mimarT gansakuTrebuli

siyvaruli gaqvs, mtkicebulebis moZebna Zneli ar aris.

nuTu wmida mociqulebi da qristes mowameni amqveyniur

cxovrebas moiZulebdnen da sikvdils miecemodnen, Tuki

mtkice rwmena ar eqnebodaT, rom sulis sicocxle

grZeldeba? Sen TviTon xom ambob, rom sxeulSi myofi

sulis sicocxle sxeulis moZraobiT Seicnoba. isini,

vinc Tavi sikvdils misca da swamdaT, rom suli sxeu-

lis gardacvalebis Semdeg cocxlobs, yoveldRiurad

saswaulebiT brwyinaven, maT sxeulebTan sneulni midian

da kurnebas iReben; midian ficis damrRvevni da maT de-

monebi euflebian; midian Sepyrobilebi da Tavisuflde-

bian (demonTagan); keTrovnebi iwmindebian; micvalebu-

lebi mihyavT da mkvdreTiT aRdgebian. aqedan SegiZlia

daaskvna, rom imaTi sulebi, romelTa sxeulebi aq aseT

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saswaulebs axdenen, sadRac cxovroben. amgvarad, Tuki

sxeulSi myofi sulis sicocxles sxeulis moZraobiT

Seicnob, maSin ratom ar gsurs sulis sicocxle sxeu-

lis gardacvalebis Semdeg TviT mkvdari ZvlebiT aR-

srulebul saswaulebSi dainaxo?

petre: am mtkicebulebas, romelic xiluli sagnebiT

aRgvZravs virwmunoT uxilavi, verc erTi goneba win

ver aRudgeba.

Tavi meSvide

sulis sxeulidan gasvlis Sesaxeb

grigoli: cota xnis win Sen Tqvi, rom ar ginaxavs,

momakvdavma Zmam suli rogor ganuteva; amis mizezi is

iyo, rom xorcieli TvaliT uxilavi arsebis xilva moi-

surve. mravalni, vinc gonebis Tvals wmida rwmeniTa da

nayofieri locviT ganiwmenddnen, sxeulidan gasul

suls xSirad xedavdnen. aucileblad mimaCnia giambo,

rom sxeulidan amomavali suli uamravjer uxilavT da

aseve _ imis Sesaxeb, rac TviTon momakvdavebs uxilavT

sxeulidan gansvlis Jams, rom amiT uZluri goneba, ro-

melic mtkicebebiT ver rwmundeba, magaliTebiT ganvam-

tkicoT.

am krebulis meore wignSi ukve giambe, rom qalaq ka-

puadan moSorebiT myofma Rirsma benediqtem, mravali

mowafis damowmebiT, am qalaqis episkoposis suli ixi-

la, romelsac angelozebi cecxlovan sferoSi zecisken

miabrZanebdnen. zecad aRmavali sulis xilvisas man go-

nebis ganvrcobili TvaliT mTeli qveyniereba ixila,

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romelic mis TvalTa winaSe TiTqos mzis erT sxivSi mo-

ikriba.

Tavi merve

monazon speciozis sulis gasvla

wmida benediqtes mowafeTagan agreTve msmenia, rom

ori cnobili mosagre, romelTac saero ganaTlebac

hqondaT, RviZli Zmebi speciozi da grigoli, misi xel-

mZRvanelobiT wmida monazvnur cxovrebas Seudgnen.

Rirsma mamam isini im monasterSi daamkvidra, romelic

qalaq teracinis maxloblad aago. Zmebs erSi yofnisas

didZali simdidre hqondaT, magram TavianTi sulis sac-

xovneblad yvelaferi glaxakebs dauriges, TviTon ki

monasterSi damkvidrdnen. erT-erTi maTgani, speciozi,

samonastro saqmeTa gamo qalaq kapuaSi iqna wargzavni-

li. erT dRes misi Zma, grigoli, ZmebTan erTad saerTo

trapezs iziarebda. am dros gonebiT aRtacebulma Tavi-

si Zmis sxeulidan aRmomavali suli ixila. speciozi am

dros misgan Sors imyofeboda. xilvis Sesaxeb man maSin-

ve Zmebs uTxra, Tavad ki saswrafod gaeSura da Zma ukve

dakrZaluli daxvda. is swored im dros aResrula, ro-

desac grigolma ixila.

Tavi mecxre

erTi tusaRis sulis Sesaxeb

rodesac jer kidev monasterSi vcxovrobdi, erTi

RmrTismosavi da friad sarwmuno kaci miambobda, rom

mogzaurebma, romlebic siciliidan romSi mimaval xo-

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maldze imyofebodnen, xmelTaSua zRvaSi yofnisas erTi

RmrTis monis suli ixiles, romelic zecad maRldebo-

da. is samniaSi iyo datyvevebuli. napirze gadasulebma

ikiTxes, Tu ra moxda da Seityves, rom RmrTis mona

swored im dRes aResrula, rodesac is zeciuri savanee-

bisken aRmavali ixiles.

Tavi meaTe

winamZRvar spesis sulis gantevebis Sesaxeb

jer kidev monasterSi yofnisas erTi Rirseuli ka-

cisgan gavige, rasac amjerad giambob. is ambobda, rom

Rirsma mamam, saxelad spesma, monasteri im adgilze aa-

go, romelsac kample hqvia. is uZveles qalaq nursiisgan

eqvsi miliT aris daSorebuli. yovlisSemZle da mowya-

le RmerTma es beri maradiuli tanjvisagan sasjeliT

daifara da masze gamovlenil gangebulebaSi simkacrec

aCvena da saxierebac: rogorc uwin misadmi siyvaruli

sasjeliT aCvena, Semdeg _ sruli gankurnebiT gamoav-

lina. mTeli ormoci wlis manZilze is brma iyo da dRis

sinaTle ar uxilavs. magram saRmrTo sasjelSi madli

aravis miatovebs. mowyale mama, romelic sasjels mog-

vivlens, Semwynareblobasac rom ar iCendes, Cveni mouT-

menlobis gamo CvenSi codvebs TviT codvebis gamosaswo-

reblad movlenili sasjeli gaamravlebda. amgvarad,

danaSaulis Semcirebis nacvlad, risi imedic unda gvqo-

noda, codva ufro gamravldeboda. RmerTma Cveni uZlu-

rebani icis da sasjels mzrunvelobas uerTebs, TviT

sasjelSi ki rCeuli Svilebis mimarT mowyaled samar-

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Tliania, raTa momavalSi iseTebi gaxados, rom samar-

Tlis mixedviT wyalobis Rirsni iyvnen. am SemTxvevaSic

ase moxda: Rirsi mosagre wyvdiadiT dasaja, magram Si-

nagani naTeli misTvis arasodes mouklia; xorcieli

sneulebis Jams, suliwmidis madliT, is gulismier nu-

geSs SeigrZnobda. rodesac sibrmavis ormoci weli ga-

vida, RmerTma mas TvalisCini daubruna da moaxloebuli

aRsasrulis Sesaxeb gamoucxada. magram manamde ubrZana

garSemo mdebare monastrebSi sicocxlis sityva eqada-

ga, raTa Zmebis monaxulebisas gulismieri naTeli imas

ganecxadebina, visac xorcieli xedva daubrunda. brZa-

nebisadmi morCilebiT, berma ZmaTa kinoviebi (saerTo

sacxovrebeli monastrebi) maSinve Semoiara da im cxov-

rebis wess qadagebda, romelic Tavad saqmiT Seiswavla.

qadagebidan meTxuTmete dRes is Tavis monasterSi dab-

runda. berma Zmebs mouwoda da uflis wmida xorcsa da

sisxls eziara, Semdeg maTTan erTad fsalmunTa galoba

daiwyo da galobis dros suli ufals miabara. yvela iq

myofma ixila, misi bageebidan mtredi rogor gamofrin-

da, romelic maSinve, yvelas Tvalwin, taZris saxuravis

Wrilidan zecisken gafrinda. sarwmunoa, rom mtredis

saxiT misi suli gamocxadda, _ da amgvarad RmerTma aC-

vena, es moRvawe rogori ubraloebiT emsaxureboda.

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Tavi meTerTmete

nursieli presviteris sulis gantevebis Sesaxeb

ver davdumdebi im SemTxvevis gamo, romelic imave qa-

laq nursiaSi moxda. amis Sesaxeb Rirsi mosagre stefa-

ne miambobda. is axlaxan imave qalaqSi dakrZales da

kargad vicnobdi. is miambobda, rom erTi presviteri

misTvis mindobil eklesias udidesi RmrTismoSiSebiT

marTavda. presviterad kurTxevis Semdeg mas coli mxo-

lod rogorc da, ise uyvarda, magram mas rogorc

mters, ise ufrTxoda: miaxloebis uflebas arasodes aZ-

levda da masTan col-qmruli kavSiri srulebiT gawyvi-

ta. wmida mosagreebs amgvari Tviseba aqvT: dauSvebeli

samudamod rom aicdinon, isini dasaSvebsac ikrZalaven.

swored amis gamo, meuRlisgan raime codvaSi rom ar Ca-

vardniliyo, misgan aucilebel samsaxursac ar iRebda.

am Rirsma presviterma amgvarad mravali weli icxovra,

msaxurebidan meormoce wels sastiki ciebiT daavadda

da sikvdilis piras aRmoCnda. rodesac misma meuRlem is

momakvdavi da micvalebuliviT mwolare ixila, yuri

nestoebTan miuaxlova da cdilobda Seetyo, cocxali

iyo Tu ara. man es rom igrZno, Tumca ZlivsRa sunTqav-

da, Tavs Zala daatana da xmamaRla uTxra: `ganved, de-

dakaco, Cemgan, cecxli jer kidev cocxalia, waiRe Ca-

la~. rodesac is gavida, TiTqos sasicocxlo Zalebis

momateba igrZno da didi sixaruliT SesZaxa: `mSvidoba

Tqvens mobrZanebas, batonebo! mSvidoba Tqvens mobrZane-

bas, batonebo; rogor RirsmyaviT mogenaxulebineT

Tqveni mdabali mona?.. movdivar, movdivar, madlobeli

var Tqveni, madlobeli~. man es sityvebi xmamaRla mra-

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valgzis gaimeora; irgvliv Sekrebili axloblebi dae-

kiTxnen, vis esaubreboda. momakvdavma maT gakvirvebiT

miugo: `nuTu aq mosul wmida mociqulebs ver xedavT?

nuTu mociqulTa TavT _ petresa da pavles ver am-

CnevT?~ Semdeg mociqulebs mimarTa da Tqva: `movdivar,

movdivar~, _ da am sityvebiT suli ufals miabara. am-

gvarad, wmida mociqulebs gahyva da daamtkica, rom maT

marTlac xedavda. marTalTa SemTxvevaSi xSirad xdeba,

rom aRsasrulis dros winamorbed wmindanebs xedaven,

raTa sikvdilis Sesaxeb mtanjveli fiqriT ar SeSin-

dnen; imisTvis, rom xorcTa sakrveli umtkivneulod da

uSiSrad ganiZarcvon, imJamad maTi gonebis Tvals zeci-

ur moqalaqeTa dasi warmoudgeba.

Tavi meTormete

qalaq reaTis episkopos probis sulis Sesaxeb

ver davdumdebi imis Sesaxeb, rasac yovlisSemZle

RmrTis mona probi (amJamad am qalaqSi renatad wodebu-

li monastris winamZRvari) sakuTari biZis, qalaq rea-

Tis episkopos probis Sesaxeb miambobda. aRsasruli rom

mouaxlovda, is mZimed daavadda. mamamisma, saxelad maq-

simem, eqimebis mosayvanad yvelgan monebi dagzavna; imedi

hqonda, rom isini mas gamoajanmrTelebdnen. magram mow-

veulma eqimebma pulsis mixedviT ganacxades, rom avad-

myofi male gardaicvleboda. saRamoxans, rodesac sadi-

lobis dro dadga, Rirsma episkoposma, garSemomyofTa

janmrTelobaze zrunviT, sTxova maT mamamisTan erTad

saepiskoposo Senobis zeda sarTulze asuliyvnen da esa-

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dilaT. yvelani zeda sarTulze avidnen, masTan mxolod

erTi yrma darCa, romelic, probis TqmiT, dResac coc-

xalia. sneulis sarecelTan myofma yrmam uecrad daina-

xa: RmrTis monasTan ori TeTrSi Semosili kaci Semovi-

da, romelTac saxeebi imdenad ubrwyinavdaT, rom samo-

sis siTeTresac ki abnelebdnen. amgvari brwyinvalebiT

Tavzardacemuli yrma xmamaRla ayvirda: `vina xarT?~

misi yviriliT aRelvebulma episkoposma probma mosulT

Sexeda, icno isini da ayvirebuli yrmis damSvideba sca-

da: `nu geSinia, Svilo Cemo, eseni wmida mowameebi _ iu-

benali da elefTeri _ arian, Cems wasayvanad movidnen~.

yrmam aseTi gaugonari xilva ver daitia, gaiqca da epis-

koposis mamasa da eqimebs nanaxis Sesaxeb uTxra. isini

maSinve qveviT Cavidnen, magram avadmyofi, romelic sul

cota xnis win datoves, ukve gardacvlili daxvdaT. is

imaT waiyvanes, romelTa xilvas iq myofma yrmam ver ga-

uZlo.

Tavi mecamete

RmerTis msaxur galas aRsasruli

saWirod mimaCnia giambo imis Sesaxeb, rac gamoCenil

da sando pirTagan gavige. guTebis dros am qalaqSi kon-

sulisa da patricis _ simaqis asuli gala siyrmeSi ga-

aTxoves da erT weliwadSi daqvrivda. amqveyniuri sia-

meni, simdidrec da axalgazrdobac mas meore qorwine-

bisken mouwodebda, magram man isurva qristesTan suli-

eri kavSiriT SeerTeba, romelic cremliT iwyeba da ma-

radiuli sixaruliT mTavrdeba, vidre xorcieli qor-

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winebis sakrveliT Sekruliyo, romelic yovelTvis si-

xaruliT iwyeba da cremliT mTavrdeba. rodesac galas

sxeulSi cecxlovani gzneba SemoenTo, eqimebi arwmuneb-

dnen, Tu ar daqorwindeboda, mometebuli simxurvalis-

gan, TviT bunebis winaaRmdegobis gamo, wveri amouvido-

da (asec moxda SemdgomSi). magram wmida dedakacs ga-

regnuli Seuxedaoba ar aSinebda, mTeli guliT zecieri

siZe Seiyvara, romelic CvenSi Sinagan mSvenierebas eZi-

ebs. amitom qmris gardacvalebisTanave saero samoseli

ganiZarcva da yovlisSemZle RmerTis samsaxurs wmida

mociqul petres taZarTan mdebare monasterSi Seudga.

iq mravali wlis manZilze gulubraloebiTa da locviT

mSvendeboda, upovrebs mowyalebas uxvad urigebda. ro-

desac yovlisSemZle RmerTma galas ganuCina Rvawlis

sanacvlod maradiuli misagebeli mieRo, igi mkerdis

kiboTi daavadda. RamiT mis sawolTan Cveulebriv ori

kandeli enTo, radgan naTlis megobars ara marto su-

lieri, aramed nivTieri wyvdiadic sZulda. erTxel sne-

ulebiT gaTanguli gala sawolze iwva, uecrad man Tavis

sarecelTan wmida mociquli petre ixila, romelic kan-

delebs Soris idga. mas ar SeSinebia, piriqiT, siyvaru-

liT gambedaoba moikriba misalmebisTvis da hkiTxa: `ba-

tono Cemo, Semendo codvebi?~ mociqulma alersianad

dauqnia Tavi da uTxra: `Segendo, wamodi~. galam, ro-

melsac monasterSi gansakuTrebiT erTi enkratisi uy-

varda, uTxra: `gevedrebi, CemTan erTad da benediqtac

wamovides~. _ `ara, _ upasuxa mociqulma, _ SenTan er-

Tad esa da es wamova, xolo is, romelzec Sen mTxov, ca-

met dReSi gamogyveba~. am sityvebis Semdeg mociquli

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uxilavi gaxda. galam maSinve monastris winamZRvari ix-

mo da uambo, rac ixila da gaigona. sami dRis Semdeg is

im dasTan erTad dakrZales, romlis Sesaxebac moci-

qulma uTxra, xolo is da, romlis Sesaxeb Tavad iTxo-

va, maT gzas cameti dRis Semdeg gaudga. es ambavi monas-

terSi dRemde axsovT da axalgazrda mowese qalwulebi

ufrosi debisgan mosmenil ambavs iseTi zedmiwevniT

gadmogcemen, TiTqos aseTi didi saswauli Tavad exi-

loT.

Tavi meToTxmete

dambladacemul servulas aRsasruli

unda aRiniSnos, rom rCeulTa sulebs sxeulidan gas-

vlis Jams xSirad tkbili zeciuri galoba esmiT da am

galobiT damtkbarni, sxeulisagan sulis gayras ver

grZnoben. rogorc maxsovs, saxarebis Sesaxeb saubrebSi

vyvebodi, rom galereaSi, romelic netari klimentis

taZarSi mimavalma mlocvelebma unda gaiaron, iyo vinme

servula, romelic uTuod gaxsovs. is qonebiT Raribi

iyo, magram damsaxurebebiT _ mdidari da didi xnis man-

Zilze sneulebiT itanjeboda. misi cnoba imiT SeiZle-

boda, rom mTeli cxovreba dambladacemuli iyo, mas

araTu dgoma, aramed sawolze wamoweva da jdoma, pir-

Tan xelis mitana da meore gverdze gadabrunebac ar Se-

eZlo. mas deda da Zma uvlidnen; mowyalebas, romelsac

aZlevdnen, maTive xeliT gascemda. mas wera-kiTxva ara-

sodes uswavlia, magram biblia SeiZina da saavadmyofoSi

masTan mosul RmrTismosav adamianebs wakiTxvas aiZu-

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lebda. amgvarad, mTeli wmida werili daiswavla, Tum-

ca, rogorc vTqviT, wera-kiTxvis ucodinari iyo. ser-

vula avadmyofobaSi dRisiT Tu RamiT RmerTs samadlo-

bel himnebsa da sagaloblebs aRuvlenda. magram rode-

sac moaxlovda Jami, aseTi tanjvisaTvis misagebeli mie-

Ro, misi sxeuli gamococxlda. sikvdilis moaxloveba

rom igrZno, servulam mnaxvelebsa da saavadmyofoSi

mcxovrebT sTxova wamomdgariyvnen da aRsasrulis mo-

lodinSi masTan erTad fsalmunebi egalobaT. magram

sikvdilis wina galoba uecrad misma SeZaxilma Sewyvi-

ta. man Tqva: `gaCumdiT! nuTu ar gesmiT, rogori qeba

aRevlineba zecaSi?~ swored im dros, rodesac man gu-

lisyuri qebis sagalobels miapyro, romelic Sinaganad

esmoda, misi wmida suli sxeuls gaeyara. misi gansvlis

Jams iqaurobas iseTi keTilsurneleba moefina, rom iq

myofebma gamouTqmeli sitkboeba SeigrZnes da amiT cxa-

dad mixvdnen, rom qebis sagaloblebiT servulas suli

zecaSi iqna miRebuli. am dros iq Cveni monazoni imyofe-

boda, romelic dResac cocxalia da tiriliT amowmebs,

rom dakrZalvamde micvalebulis nestoebidan keTil-

surneleba ifrqveoda.

Tavi meTxuTmete

RmrTismsaxur romulas aRsasruli

saxarebis Sesaxeb saubrebSi, rogorc maxsovs, erT

ambavs giambobdi, romelic TviT saubris dros presvi-

terma speciozma daadastura. es ambavi misTvisac cnobi-

li iyo. im dros, rodesac monasterSi davmkvidrdi,

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yovladwmida RmrTismSobel mariamis taZarTan erTi

xnieri mowese dedakaci, saxelad redempta, cxovrobda.

igi monazvnad am qalaqSi aRikveca da herundinas mowafe

iyo, romelic mravali saTnoebiT iyo Semkuli da, ro-

gorc amboben, meudabnoe cxovrebas prepestinis mTebSi

eweoda. redemptas monazvnobaSi ori mowafe hyavda: er-

Ti, saxelad romula, xolo meores, romelic amJamadac

cocxalia, saxiT vicnob, magram misi saxeli ar vici. es

sami dedakaci erT saxlSi Raribulad cxovrobda, mag-

ram saTnoebebiT mdidrebi iyvnen. romula, romelic vax-

seneT, saTnoebebiT meore mowafes aRemateboda. is sak-

virvelad momTmeni, uaRresad morCili, mdumare da

gulmodgine mlocveli iyo. magram Zalian xSirad maT,

visac adamianebi srulyofilad miiCneven, Semoqmedis

TvalSi jer kidev aqvT nakli, iseve, rogorc gamoucde-

li adamianebi xSirad dausrulebeli tvifris xilvisas

mas vaqebT, rogorc dasrulebuls, mxatvari ki, Tumca

Cveni qeba esmis, muSaobas ganagrZobs, rom daasrulos.

romulasac msgavsi ram daemarTa. is daavadda sneule-

biT, romelsac eqimebi damblas uwodeben. romula mra-

vali wlis manZilze loginSi iwva da moZraoba TiTqmis

ar SeeZlo, magram moTmineba amgvari tanjviTac ar dau-

kargavs. piriqiT, sneuleba misTvis saTnoebaTa gamrav-

lebis saSualebad iqca. igi rac ufro nakleb Zalas

grZnobda, miT ufro gulmodgined loculobda. erT Ra-

mes man ukve xsenebul redemptas mouxmo, romelic ori-

ve mowafes sakuTari qaliSvilebiviT zrdida: `dedao,

modi, dedao, modi aq~. redempta maSinve adga da meore

mowafesTan erTad romulasken gaemarTa. am ambavs ori-

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veni miambobdnen, garda amisa sxvebisganac gamigonia. Sua

RamiT isini romulas sawolTan iyvnen. uecrad zecidan

gadmosulma naTelma senaki gaanaTa da imgvarad brwyi-

navda, rom iq myofTa gulebi gamouTqmeli SiSiT aavso.

rogorc Semdeg TviTon mogviTxrobdnen, maTi sxeulebi

Zrwolam gaaSeSa da uZravad idgnen. Semdeg SariSuri

gaisma, TiTqos adamianTa didi jgufi moZraobda. senakis

karma ryeva daiwyo, TiTqos mravali Semomsvleli miaw-

yda. sawolTan mdgomi dedebi grZnobdnen, rogorc Tvi-

Ton ambobdnen, SemosulTa iq yofnas, magram didi SiSisa

da sinaTlis gamo Tvalebi daxuWuli hqondaT da vera-

fers xedavdnen. sinaTles araCveulebrivi keTilsurne-

leba mohyva da sasiamovno surnelma isini daamSvida.

romulam alersiani xmiT daawynara aTrTolebuli re-

dempta, romelic misi ganmswavleli iyo saTnoebebSi:

`nu geSinia, dedao, jer ar vkvdebi~. man mravaljer ga-

imeora es sityvebi da zecidan gadmosuli sinaTlis si-

kaSkaSem TandaTan iklo, magram surneli darCa. ase gan-

vlo meore da mesame dRem, senakSi mofenili surneli

kidev igrZnoboda. meoTxe RamiT man kvlav mouxmo winam-

ZRvars, misi mosvlisas wmida ziareba iTxova da eziara.

redempta da meore mowafe mis sawols ar Sordebodnen,

_ uecrad misi senakis win mgalobelTa ori gundi gam-

wkrivda da rogorc mogviTxrobdnen, erTi dasi mamaka-

cebis xmiT fsalmunebs galobda, xolo meore _ dedaka-

cebis xmiT bans aZlevda. romulas senakis win zeciuri

galobis Jams misi wmida suli gaTavisuflda xorcis

sakrvelTagan. rodesac is zecad maRldeboda, mgalo-

belTa gundebi rac ufro zeviT miiwevdnen, fsalmunTa

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galoba miT ufro sustad ismoda, vidre galobis xmac

da keTilsurnelebac sabolood ar ganeSora iq myofTa-

gan.

Tavi meTeqvsmete

monazon Tarsilas aRsasruli

zogjer sxeulidan gamomaval suls sanugeSod TviT

cxovrebis momcemeli ecxadeba. imaves gavimeoreb, rac

saxarebaze saubris dros ukve gadmogeci deidaCemis _

Tarsilas Sesaxeb. is ori danarCeni disgan daucxrome-

li locviT, sifxizliTa da TavSekavebiT gamoirCeoda

da am saTnoebebis meoxebiT udides siwmindes miaRwia.

mas ZilSi papaCemis papa, romis eklesiis winamZRvari

feliqsi eCvena, maradiuli naTlis savane aCvena da uT-

xra: `modi, am naTlis savaneSi migiReb~. Tarsila maSin-

ve ciebam Seipyro da sikvdilis piras aRmoCnda. rogorc

warCinebul adamianTa aRsasrulis Jams naTesavTa sanu-

geSod bevri xalxi ikribeba, aseve Tarsilas aRsasru-

lis Jamsac mis sarecelTan Tavi mravalma adamianma moi-

yara. uecrad man zeviT aixeda, momavali ieso dainaxa da

iq myofT xmamaRla uTxra: `gza mieciT, gza mieciT! ieso

mobrZandeba!~ da maSinve, rogorc ki mzera gamocxade-

bul ufals miapyro, misma sulma sxeuli datova. uec-

rad saocari keTilsurneleba daifrqva, romelmac Ta-

visi sitkboebiT yvelas mianiSna, rom sitkboebis mizezi

marTlac mobrZanda. rodesac mis sxeuls gasapatiosneb-

lad samoseli gaxades, idayvebsa da muxlebze saSineli

wanazardebi ixiles, romlebic aqlemis kuzebs hgavda,

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risi mizezic locvis dros xangrZlivi muxlTa dreka

iyo. micvalebulis sxeulma cxadyo, sicocxlis Jams mi-

si suli mudmivad ras iqmoda.

Tavi meCvidmete

yrma muzas aRsasruli

ver davdumdebi imis Sesaxeb, rasac zemoT xsenebuli

RmrTis mona probi Tavisi dis, mcirewlovani muzas Se-

saxeb miambobda. erT Rames mas yovladwmida RmrTismSo-

beli, maradqalwuli mariami gamoecxada da TeTrebSi

Semosili misi toli qalwulebi uCvena. muzam maTTan Se-

erTeba moisurva, magram ver gakadnierda. yovladwmida

qalwuli mariami daekiTxa, maTTan SeerTeba da misi msa-

xureba xom ar surda. yrmam RmrTismSobels miugo:

`msurs~, _ da misgan maSinve emcno, rom amieridan ara-

feri bavSvuri da daufiqrebeli aRar Caedina, sicilisa

da garTobisagan Tavi Seekavebina da ocdameaTe dRes mis

samsaxureblad im qalwulTa Soris Seiracxeboda, rom-

lebic ixila. am xilvis Semdeg yrma sruliad Seicvala,

bavSvuri sicelqe miatova da cxovrebas mkacrad war-

marTavda. misma amgvarma cvlilebam mSoblebi gaakvirva

da mizezi hkiTxes. muzam uambo, rac mas RmrTismSobelma

amcno, da gamoacxada, mis samsaxureblad romel dRes

wardgeboda. ocdamexuTe dRes is avad gaxda. ocdameaTe

dRes, rodesac misi aRsasruli moaxlovda, muzam misken

momavali RmrTismSobeli im qalwulebTan erTad ixila,

romlebic xilvaSi gamoecxadnen. RmrTismSoblis Za-

xilze man Tvalebi krZalviT milula da xmamaRla upa-

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suxa: `dedofalo Cemo, movdivar! dedofalo Cemo, mov-

divar!~ am sityvebiT suli ganuteva da umanko sxeuli-

dan wmida qalwulebTan dasamkvidreblad gavida.

petre: ramdenadac kacTa modgma uricxv codvebs

aris damonebuli, vfiqrob, zeciuri ierusalimi umete-

sad mcirewlovani yrmebiTa da CvilebiT aris savse.

Tavi meTvramete

zogierT yrmas mSoblebi cudi aRzrdiT caTa

sasufevlis kars uketaven; RmrTis mgmobi yrmis

Sesaxeb

grigoli: marTalia, unda gvwamdes, rom CvilobaSi

gardacvlili yvela monaTluli Cvili caTa sasufevel-

Si Sedis, magram isic sarwmunoa, rom mcirewlovan

yrmaTagan, romelTac ukve laparaki SeuZliaT, caTa sa-

sufevelSi yvelani ar Sedian. zogierT maTgans iq Sesas-

vlel kars cudi aRzrdiT mSoblebi uketaven.

Cvens qalaqSi yvelasTvis cnobil erT adamians, sami-

ode wlis win xuTi wlis vaJi hyavda, romelsac gadame-

tebuli xorcieli siyvarulis gamo cudad zrdida. bi-

Wi, rogorc ki raime winaaRmdegoba Sexvdeboda, Cveule-

bis gamo (gamoTqmac ki miWirs), RmrTis saxels gmobda.

sami wlis win is mZimed daavadda da sikvdilis piras mi-

vida. rodesac mamas is xelSi hyavda, uecrad biWi zar-

dacemuli aTrTolda, rogorc iq myofni mowmobdnen,

radgan misken momavali boroti sulebi dainaxa, da ay-

virda: `miSvele, mama, miSvele~. yvirilis dros man sa-

xe miibruna, raTa maT mamis mkerdze damalvoda. mama

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akankalebul Svils daekiTxa, ras xedavda. biWma upasu-

xa: `Cems wasayvanad Savi kacebi movidnen~. amis warmoT-

qmisTanave man RmerTis saxeli Seuracxyo da sulic ga-

nuteva. yovlisSemZle RmerTs rom eCvenebina, Tu ratom

mieca bavSvi aseT mtanjvelebs, dauSva momakvdavs is gae-

meorebina, ris gamosworebasac mama mis sicocxleSi ar

cdilobda; imitom dauSva, rom bavSvma mTeli cxovreba

RmrTis gmobaSi gaatara da is sikvdilis winac gamoT-

qva, raTa mamamiss Tavisi Secodeba Seecno da daenaxa,

rom mcirewlovani Svilis sulze ar zrunavda da geeni-

is cecxlisTvis arcTu mcire codvili aRzarda. magram

es samwuxaro ambavi davtovoT da sanugeSos mivxedoT,

rogorc dasawyisSi vakeTebdiT.

Tavi mecxramete

RmrTismosavi mosagris, stefanes, aRsasruli

zemoT naxsenebi probisa da sxva RmrTismosav kacTa-

gan Sevityve is, rac msmenelT saxarebis Sesaxeb saubar-

Si Rirsi mamis, stefanes Sesaxeb movaxsene. am mamas, ro-

gorc probi da sxva mowmeni gadmogvcemen, araferi Seu-

Zenia amqveynad da arc araferi ebada, RmrTis gulisaT-

vis upovareba uyvarda. gansacdels yovelTvis moTmine-

biT itanda, saero Tavyrilobebs erideboda da mudam

locva swyuroda. mis saTnoebaTagan erTis Sesaxeb giam-

bob, romlis mixedviT SegiZlia danarCenzec imsjelo.

erTxel man kaloze momkili xorblis TavTavebi waiRo,

romelic sakuTari xeliT daTesa. am xorblis garda,

Tavis sarCenad mas da mis mowafeebs mTeli wlis manZil-

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ze araferi ebadaT. erTma borotma adamianma, romelic

uZvelesma mterma waaqeza, xorbals kaloze cecxli wa-

ukida da dawva. sxvam es dainaxa da ambis saTqmelad

RmrTis monasTan gaiqca. moyola rom daamTavra, bolos

daamata: `vai, sawyalo stefane, es ra dagemarTa~. ste-

fanem naTeli saxiTa da xmiT myisve miugo: `vai imas,

vinc es Caidina; me ra damemarTa?~ am sityvebidan Cans,

Tu saTnoebis ra maRal safexurze idga is, vinc mTeli

wlis sarCo-sabadebels sulis simSvidiT kargavda da

ufro metad codvis Camdeni ebraleboda, vidre _ saku-

Tari Tavi, Tumca misi codviT masac evno. is imas ar an-

gariSobda, rac gareganad dakarga, aramed imas wuxda,

rac damnaSavem Sinaganad dakarga. rodesac misi aRsas-

rulis dRe dadga, mravali adamiani Seikriba, raTa Ta-

vianTi sulebi dasalocad aseTi wmida kacis locvis-

Tvis miendoT, romelic ukve amqveynidan gadioda. Sekre-

bilni misi sarecelis garSemo idgnen. zogierTi ange-

lozebs xedavda, magram verafers ambobda, sxvebi vera-

fers xedavdnen, magram yvela iq myofi iseTma Zlierma

SiSma moicva, rom am wmida sulis gasvlis dros iq dgo-

ma verc erTma ver SeZlo. cxadad icnoboda, Tu ra didi

Zala miiqvamda momakvdavis suls, romlis gasvlas verc

erTma mokvdavma ver gauZlo.

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Tavi meoce

sulis damsaxureba zogjer cxadad gamoCndeba ara

aRsasrulis Jams, aramed _ sikvdilis Semdeg

imis codnac gvmarTebs, rom zogjer sulis damsaxu-

rebani gancxaddeba ara aRsasrulis Jams, aramed sikvdi-

lis Semdeg. magaliTad, wmida mowameni, romelTac us-

juloTagan mravali tanjva daiTmines, TavianTi Zvle-

biT niSebsa da saswaulebs yoveldRiurad aRasruleben.

Tavi ocdameerTe

winamZRvar valentis ori monazoni

valenti, romelic Rirseul cxovrebas eweoda, ro-

gorc ici, Cemi monastris winamZRvari iyo, adre ki va-

leriis olqSi Tavis monasters winamZRvrobda. mZvinva-

re longobadebi maSin mis monasterSi miiWrnen da, ro-

gorc Tavad miambobda, misi ori monazoni xeze Camoax-

rCves. isini im dResve dakrZales. rodesac mosaRamovda,

micvalebulTa sulebma im adgilze sruliad garkveviT

da xmamaRla iwyes galoba, imdenad, rom TviT mkvleleb-

mac gaigones, Zalian gaukvirdaT da SeSindnen. es xmebi

iq myof tyveebsac esmodaT da SemdgomSi moklulTa mier

fsalmunTa galobas adasturebdnen. yovlisSemZle

RmerTma SesaZloa am sulebis xmebi xorcieli smenis-

Tvis misawvdomi imitom gaxada, rom jer kidev xorcSi

myofT iswavlon _ Tuki RmerTs moemsaxurebian, sxeu-

lis sikvdilis Semdegac WeSmariti cxovrebiT icxov-

reben.

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Tavi ocdameore

iRumen suranis aRsasruli

jer kidev monasterSi yofnisas zogierTi keTilmsa-

xuri kacisagan Sevityve, rom longobardebis Semosevis

dros suris olqSi monastris winamZRvari surani iyo.

is yvelafers, rac ki monasterSi hqondaT, masTan misul

tyveebsa da longobardebisgan Tavis dasaRwevad gaqce-

ulT aZlevda. man Tavisi da Zmebis samoseli, monastris

maragi da rac baRSi hqondaT, mTlianad gasca da amgva-

rad, mTeli qoneba daariga. male amis Semdeg longobar-

debi movidnen, is Seipyres da oqro mosTxoves. rodesac

man uTxra, rom araferi aRar aqvs, maT mezobel mTaze

aiyvanes, sadac vrceli tye iyo. iq xis fuRuroSi erTi

gaqceuli tyve imaleboda. am xis siaxloves longobar-

dma saxelganTqmul mosagres Tavi maxviliT mohkveTa.

rodesac misi sxeuli miwaze davarda, mTac da tyec

myisve Sezanzarda. mTrTolvare miwa TiTqos gamoxatav-

da, rom mis udides siwmindes ver itevda.

Tavi ocdamesame

marsiis eklesiis diakvnis aRsasruli

marsiis olqSi erTi Rirseuli diakvani iyo. is lon-

gobardebma daatyveves. erT-erTma mas maxviliT Tavi

mohkveTa, magram rodesac misi usulo sxeuli miwaze da-

eca, mkvlels arawmida suli daeufla, miwaze dasca da

amiT aCvena, rom RmerTis megobris mkvleli RmerTis

mtris xelT aRmoCnda.

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petre: miTxari geTayva, yovlisSemZle RmerTi ratom

uSvebs udidesi siwmindis mqone adamianebi aseTi sikvdi-

liT mokvdnen, romelTa siwmindes maTi sikvdilis Sem-

deg TviTonac aRar faravs?

Tavi ocdameoTxe

beTilSi gagzavnili wmida mosagris aRsasruli

grigoli: rodesac dawerilia: `marTali Tu aResru-

los, gansuenebasa Sina iyos~ (sibrZ. 4,7), maS, rCeul-

TaTvis, romlebic, ueWvelia, maradiuli cxovrebisken

iswrafvian, sastiki sikvdili ra zianis momtani SeiZ-

leba iyos? SesaZloa mcire Secodebani maTac aqvT, ro-

melTagan amgvari sikvdiliT unda ganiwmindon. amitom

xdeba, rom gangdebulni marTlebze Zalauflebas iReben,

vidre isini cocxlebi arian, magram maTi sikvdilis Sem-

deg mtrebs sisastikiT miegebaT, radgan TavianTi xel-

mwifebiT Seubraleblad isargebles. amgvarad, mkvle-

li, romelic miSvebuli iqna Rirsi diakvnis mimarT am-

gvari siSmage gamoeCina, vidre wmindani cocxali iyo,

misi sikvdiliT gaxarebas ver moeswro. wmida werilic

imaves mowmobs. samariaSi wargzavnilma kacma RmerTis

mimarT daumorCilebloba gamoavlina _ gzaSi Wama, ris-

Tvisac is imave gzaze lomma mokla. magram iqve weria:

`viri igi da lomi dga PorcTa misTa Tana, da ara Seaxo

lomman man PorcTa maT kacisa mis RmrTisaTa da arca

ganxeTqa viri igi~ (3 mef. 13, 28). aqedan Cans, rom dau-

morCileblobis codva TviT sikvdiliT ganiwminda: igive

lomi, romelmac is mokla, micvalebuls ar miekara. mas

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mokvlis neba micemuli hqonda, magram gvamis SeWmis uf-

leba ar hqonda. is, romelmac sicocxleSi Sescoda, da-

umorCileblobisTvis miRebuli sasjeliT sikvdilis

Semdeg gamarTlda. amitom lomi, romelmac codvils si-

cocxle waarTva, ukve marTlis gvams icavda.

petre: momwons, rasac Sen ambob, magram minda vicode,

sxeulTa mkvdreTiT aRdgomamde marTalTa sulebi zeca-

Si Tu miiRebian?

Tavi ocdamexuTe

miiRebian Tu ara zecaSi marTalTa sulebi sxeulTa

mkvdreTiT aRdgomamde?

grigoli: ^sruliad cxadia, rom srulyofil mar-

TalTa sulebi, rogorc ki xorcTa sakrvels datoveben,

zeciur savaneebSi mkvidrdebian, rogorc amis Sesaxeb

Tavisi bagiT TviT WeSmariteba gvimowmebs: `sadaca Ãor-

ci, munca orbebi Sekrbes~ (luk. 17, 37). sadac Cveni

mxsneli sxeuliT imyofeba, ueWvelia, marTalTa sule-

bic iq ikribebian. aseve wmida pavlec ambobs: `guli

metyÂs ganslvad da qristes Tana yofad~ (filip. 1, 23).

amgvarad, visac ar eeWveba, rom qriste zecaSia, arc

imas uaryofs, rom pavles suli zecaSia. is xorcTagan

gansvlisa da zecaSi damkvidrebis Sesaxeb saubrobs:

`uwyiT, viTarmed, ukueTu queyanisa ese saxli, sayofeli

Cueni, dairRues, aRSenebuli RmrTisa mier maqus Cuen

saxli ÃeliT-uqmneli saukunoÁ caTa Sina~ (2 kor. 5, 1).

petre: amgvarad, Tuki marTalTa sulebi amJamad ze-

caSi mkvidroben, gansjis dRes Tavisi simarTlis sanac-

vlod ras miiReben?

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grigoli: samsjavros dRes maTTvis misagebeli saswa-

ulebrivad aRorZindeba: amJamad isini mxolod sulebiT

netareben, xolo samsjavros Semdeg sxeulebiTac ine-

tareben, romliTac RmrTis gulisaTvis tkivilebsa da

gansacdelebs iTmendnen. maT amgvar didebaze daweri-

lia: `esreT meored daimkKdron queyanaY da sixaruli

saukunoY~ (es. 61, 7). sayovelTao aRdgomis dRemde wmin-

danTa sulebis Sesaxeb dawerilia: `da mieca maT samos-

lebi spetakebi, da iTqua maTda mimarT, raÁTa ganisue-

non mcired JamRa, vidremdis aResrulnen maT Tana mona-

ni da Zmani maTni~ (gamocx. 6, 11). amgvarad, Tuki maT am-

Jamad spetaki samoslebi miiRes, samsjavros dRes ori

samoseli eqnebaT: amJamad netarebas mxolod suliT ga-

nicdian, maSin ki suliTa da xorciT inetareben.

petre: geTanxmebi; isic minda vicode, momakvdavi ada-

mianebi rogor winaswarmetyveleben?

Tavi ocdameeqvse

rogor winaswarmetyveleben momakvdavi adamianebi?

monazvnebi _ geronti da meleti da yrma armentari

grigoli: zogjer sulebi TavianTi bunebrivi Tvise-

bebiT dafaruls Seicnoben. zogjer sxeulidan gasuli

sulebi momavals gamocxadebiT Seicnoben, xolo zog-

jer sikvdilamde cota xniT adre, zegardamo madliT

STagonebulni, gonebis usxeulo TvaliT zeciur sai-

dumloebebs xedaven. suli Tavisi bunebrivi TvisebebiT

momavals rom Seicnobs, Semdegi SemTxvevidanac Cans.

Cvens qalaqSi ori wlis win erTi advokati gardaicva-

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la. mas ferdi dauavadda. aRsasrulamde cota xniT ad-

re monas mouxmo da ubrZana misTvis tansacmeli moemza-

debina. yrmam ifiqra, rom is bodavda da misi brZaneba ar

Seasrula. maSin avadmyofi adga, Caicva da Tqva, rom api-

is gziT netar qsistes taZarSi midis. ramdenime xanSi

avadmyofobis gaZlierebis gamo is aResrula. gadawyvi-

tes, rom misi sxeuli prenestis gzaze, netari mowamis,

ianuariusis taZarTan daekrZalaT, magram imaT, vinc mis

cxedars miasvenebda, es gza eSoraT da moulodnelad

apiis gziT wasvla gadawyvites. maT ar icodnen, man sik-

vdilis win ra Tqva da swored im taZarSi dakrZales,

romelzec advokatma iwinasawrmetyvela. CvenTvis cno-

bilia, rom es adamiani saero saqmianobas misdevda da

Tanac angarebiT iyo Sepyrobili; rogor SeZlebda igi

winaswarmetyvelebas? cxadia, TviT misma sulma Tavisi

bunebrivi TvisebebiT winaswar Seicno, rac mis cxedars

moeloda. xolo imis Sesaxeb, Tu rogor igeben momakvda-

vebi momavals gamocxadebiT, SegviZlia imis mixedviT

davaskvnaT, rac Cvens monasterSi moxda.

aTiode wlis win Cems monasterSi erTi Zma, saxelad

geronti, cxovrobda. is mZimed daavadda da erTxel, Ra-

meul CvenebaSi, naTeli pirisaxis da brwyinvale samo-

siT Semosili kacebi ixila, romlebic zecidan monas-

terSi eSvebodnen. rodesac isini sneulis sawolTan

wardgnen, erT-erTma maTganma Tqva: `Cven imisTvis varT

warmogzavnilni, rom grigolis monastridan msaxure-

bisTvis zogierTi Zma waviyvanoT~; _ Semdeg meores mi-

marTa da daumata: _ `Caiwere: markele, valentiniane,

agneli~. man sxvebic daasaxela, romlebic amJamad aRar

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maxsovs. amis Semdeg kidev daumata: `esec Caiwere, ro-

melic Cven Semogvcqeris~. xsenebulma Zmam moaxloebu-

li aRsasrulis Sesaxeb monastris Zmebs diliTve acno-

ba. ganacxada isic, rom Tavadac igive eloda. momdevno

dRidan naxsenebi Zmebi im mimdevrobiT aResrulnen, ro-

gorc Cawerilebi iyvnen. ukanasknelad is Zmac gardaic-

vala, romelmac Zmebis aRsasruli winaswar Seityo.

sami wlis winandeli sikvdilianobis dros, rodesac

es qalaqi sruliad gaukacrielda (590 w.), qalaq por-

tis monasterSi iyo Zma, saxelad meleti, romelic

yrmobaSi aRikveca, magram sakvirveli gulubraloeba da

morCileba hqonda. is Tavisi angelozis dRes avad gaxda

da sikvdilis piras aRmoCnda. qalaqis episkoposi, Rir-

si feliqsi, romlisganac amis Sesaxeb gavige, sneulTan

gaeSura, nugeSs scemda da amxnevebda, rom sikvdilis ar

SeSineboda da RmerTis mowyalebis saxeliT mravali

wlis sicocxles hpirdeboda, magram momakvdavma upasu-

xa, rom misi sarbieli dasrulebulia; Semdeg uambo,

rogor gamoecxada mas Wabuki da werili gadasca sit-

yvebiT: `gaxseni da waikiTxe~. avadmyofma, rogorc Tvi-

Ton hyveboda, sakuTari Tavi da yvela, vinc xsenebuli

episkoposis mier aRdgomis dResaswaulze moinaTla, oq-

ros asoebiT Cawerili ixila. am weriliT meleti dar-

wmunda, rom TviTonac da isinic am cxovrebidan male ga-

vidodnen. asec moxda. is im dResve gardaicvala, xolo

amis Semdeg yvela naTelRebuli mis gzas gahyva, ise, rom

ramdenime dReSi arc erTi maTgani cocxali aRar iyo.

aqedan cxadia, rom RmrTis am monam maTi saxelebi oqros

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asoebiT Cawerili imitom ixila, rom isini maradiuli

naTliT iqnen ganaTlebulni.

rogorc imaT gamocxadebiT Seityves momavali, aseve

zogjer momakvdavis suls zeciuri saidumloebani ara

ZilSi, aramed cxadSi SeuZlia Seityos. Cemi monastris

monazon amons kargad icnob. rodesac is jer kidev erSi

iyo, Cveni qalaqis advokatis, valerianes qaliSvilze

dainiSna. is advokatis samsaxuriT mudmivad sargeblob-

da, amitom mis saxlSi ra xdeboda, kargad icoda. ukve

monasterSi cxovrebis dros miambobda, rom im sikvdi-

lianobis Jams, romelmac patric narsis dros romi

Zlier gaanadgura, xsenebul valerianes saxlSi erTi

yrma, saxelad armentari iyo, romelic uCveulo siw-

rfeliTa da simdabliT iyo Semosili. rodesac igive se-

ni advokatis saxlsac moedo, es yrmac daavadda da sik-

vdilis piras aRmoCnda. is iq myofTa Tvalwin gonebiT

iqna aRtacebuli, Semdeg gons moego, Tavis batons uxmo

da mouTxro: `zecaSi viyavi da Sevityve, am saxlSi vin

gardaicvleba. es, esa da es aResrulebian, Sen nu geSi-

nia, amJamad ar mokvdebi, xolo Cemi naTqvami rom simar-

Tlea, imiT Seityob, rom enebze laparakis niWi momeca.

Sen xom ici, berZnuli srulebiT ar vicodi, axla ki

berZnulad davilaparakeb imisTvis, rom darwmunde _

yovel enaze laparakis niWi marTlac momeca~. maSin ba-

toni berZnulad daelaparaka da man ise upasuxa, rom iq

myofni gaocdnen. valerianes saxlSi bulgareli meaf-

Tiaqe cxovrobda. mas maSinve avadmyofTan mouxmes da

sTxoves _ bulgarulad esaubra; italiaSi dabadebuli

da gazrdili yrma ki ise pasuxobda, TiTqos TviTonac

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bulgareli yofiliyo. yvela msmeneli gakvirvebuli iyo

da am or enaze ametyvelebis Semdeg, romlebic manamde

ar icoda, irwmunes yvelaferi, ris Semowmebasac ver

SeZlebdnen. ori dRis Semdeg sikvdilis niSnebi gamoC-

nda, magram mesame dRes, ucnobi mizezebis gamo, yrmam xe-

lebi da mxrebi kbilebiT daiglija da Semdeg suli ga-

nuteva. amis Semdeg isinic male aResrulnen, viszec man

iwinaswarmetyvela, magram saxlSi im seniT aravin gar-

dacvlila, visi saxelic sneul yrmas ar dausaxelebia.

petre: sazarelia, rom aseTi niWis mimRebi amgvari

sasjeliT daisaja.

grigoli: RmerTis dafaruli msjavri vin icis? ra-

sac RmrTis msjavrSi gonebiT ver vwvdebiT, mis mimarT

ufro metad Zrwola gvmarTebs, vidre _ Zieba.

Tavi ocdameSvide

mmarTvel feliqsis aRsasruli

radganac saubari momakvdavTa sulebze daviwyeT,

romlebic bevr rames igeben winaswar, ver davdumdebi

imis Sesaxeb, Tu ra gavige mravali mowmisagan qalaq

centumcelis (amJamad Civita-vekia) mmarTvel Teofane-

ze. is mowyale, sikeTis aRsrulebaSi gulmodgine da

gansakuTrebiT stumarTmoyvare adamiani iyo. qveynis

marTvisas Teofane miwier da droebiT saqmeebs aRasru-

lebda, magram rogorc misi aRsasrulis Jams gairkva,

amas movaleobis moxdis mizniT akeTebda da ara _ anga-

rebiT. misi aRsasrulis moaxloebasTan erTad amindi

Seicvala. misi meuRle mwared atirda da ambobda: `ra-

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Ra vqna, rogor dagasaflao, rodesac uamindobis gamo

saxlis zRurblis gadabijebac ki SeuZlebelia. man miu-

go: `nu tiri, rogorc ki movkvdebi, ca ganaTdeba~. is am

sityvebis warmoTqmisTanave aResrula, xolo mis sik-

vdils amindis gamosworeba mohyva. am saswauls sxva sas-

waulebic axlda. sneuls xel-fexi nikrisis qariT hqon-

da dasiebuli da dawylulebuli da Cirqisgan yarda.

rodesac gasapatiosneblad micvalebuls samosi gaxa-

des, xelebic da fexebic sruliad janmrTeli hqonda,

TiTqos Wrilobebi arasodes mihkareboda. Semdeg sasaf-

laoze gadaasvenes. misma meuRlem meoTxe dRes marmari-

los qvis Secvla gadawyvita. rodesac qva aiRes, misi

saflavidan iseTi keTilsurneleba amoifrqva, TiTqos

misi xrwnadi sxeulidan WiaRuebis nacvlad nelsacxeb-

lebi amodioda. zogierTni, (rwmenaSi) meryevni, romel-

Tac amis Sesaxeb Cemgan gaiges, daeWvdnen. magram erTxel

warCinebul kacTa krebulSi gaxldiT. iq swored is xe-

losnebi movidnen, romlebmac Teofanes saflavze qva ga-

mocvales. isini CemTan TavianTi saqmis gamo movidnen. ma-

Sin maT im saswaulis Sesaxeb klerikosebis, warCinebu-

li kacebisa da xalxis TandaswrebiT vkiTxe. maT daadas-

tures, rom saflavi keTilsurnelebiT saswaulebrivad

iyo aRvsili. maT misi kubos Sesaxeb kidev ufro saoca-

ri ram Tqves, magram amis Sesaxeb Txroba did dros wag-

varTmevs.

petre: sakmarisia, Cemi cnobiswadili dakmayofile-

bulia, magram kidev erTi sakiTxi mainteresebs. Tuki,

rogorc zemoT iTqva, wmindanTa sulebi zecaSi mkvid-

roben, maSin eWvsgareSea, codvilTa sulebi jojoxeTSi

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arian. magram marTlac asea es Tu ara, ar vici, imitom,

rom adamianuri gansja ar uSvebs, codvilTa sulebi sa-

yovelTao samsjavromde jojoxeTSi daitanjon.

Tavi ocdamerve

gvmarTebs virwmunoT, rom rogorc srulyofilTa

sulebi zecaSi mkvidroben, aseve codvilTa sulebi

sxeulTan gayris Semdeg jojoxeTSi mkvidrdebian

grigoli: Tuki RmrTis saTno saubarma imaSi srulad

dagarwmuna, rom marTalTa sulebi zecaSi mkvidroben,

maSin imisi rwmenac gmarTebs, rom codvilTa sulebi

jojoxeTs imkvidreben. maradiuli simarTlis msjav-

riT aucilebelia, rom marTlebi ididebodnen, xolo

codvilebi daitanjon. rogorc rCeulni xaroben neta-

rebiT, aseve unda gvjerodes, rom gankicxulni sikvdi-

lis dRidan cecxlSi iwvian.

petre: rogor warmovidginoT, rom nivTier cecxlSi

univTo arseba iwvis?

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Tavi ocdamecxre

rogor warmovidginoT, rom usxeulo sulebi

nivTier cecxlSi arian Semwyvdeulni?

grigoli: Tuki cocxali adamianis univTo suli niv-

Tier sxeulSi arsebobs, maSin sikvdilis Semdeg univTo

suls nivTieri cecxli ratom ver daipyrobs? 1

petre: cocxal arsebaSi univTo suli imitom arse-

bobs, rom is sxeuls ganacxovelebs.

grigoli: Tuki, sayvarelo petre, univTo suls im

sxeulSi SeuZlia iarsebos, romelsac ganacxovelebs,

maSin sasjelis mosaxdelad ratom ver iarsebebs iq, sa-

dac sikvdilia gamefebuli? Cven vamtkicebT, suli cec-

xlSi imisTvis aris, rom cecxlis danaxviTa da SegrZne-

biT daitanjos. is swored am cecxlis xilviT itanjeba

da swored imiT iwvis, rom Tavs cecxlSi xedavs. amgva-

rad, materialuri nivTiereba aramaterialur arsebas

wvavs xiluli cecxlidan gamosuli tkivilis momgvre-

li, uxilavi mxurvalebiT, raTa nivTier cecxlSi usxe-

ulo goneba usxeulo aliT itanjos. saxarebiseuli

gadmocemis mixedviT SegviZlia davaskvnaT, rom suli

ara marto cecxlis xilviT, aramed misi SegrZnebiTac

itanjeba. saxarebis mixedviT, mdidari sikvdilis Sem-

1 wmida ioane damaskelis swavlebiT: `maSin mieces eSmaki da mis

Tana Zalni misni da kaci igi maTi, romel ars anteqriste, uRmrTo-

Ta Tana da codvilTa cecxlsa saukunesa, ara nivTiersa, viTar-ese

ars Cuen Soris myofi ese cecxli, aramed egeviTarsa, viTar uwyis

RmerTman~ (`gardamocemaY ucilobeli marTlmadidebelTa sarwmu-

noebisaY~, Tavi 100, aRdgomisaTvis. efrem mciris Targm.). _ mTar-

gmnelis SeniSvna.

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deg jojoxeTSi aRmoCnda. misi sxeuli rom cecxlSi iyo

Cagdebuli, misive sityvebidan Cans, rodesac abraams

evedreba: `moavline lazare, raÁTa daawos mwuervali

TiTisa misisaÁ wyalsa da ganmigrilos enaÁ Cemi, rameTu

vitanjebi me aliTa amiT cexlisaÁTa~ (luk. 16, 24). am-

gvarad, Tuki Tavad WeSmariteba amowmebs, rom codvil

mdidars cecxlSi tanjva hqonda misjili, maS, romeli

gonieri adamiani uaryofs imas, rom codvilTa sulebi

cecxlSi imyofebian?

petre: marTalia, gonebis mixedviTac da WeSmarite-

bis damowmebiTac suli rwmenad aRiZvreba, magram rode-

sac goneba dafiqrdeba, kvlav uWirs dajereba. rogor

SeiZleba usxeulo arseba nivTierma Zalam daipyros da

tanjos?

grigoli: mipasuxe, geTayva, zecidan gangdebuli su-

lebi usxeulod migaCnia Tu sxeulis mqoned?

petre: suls sxeulis mqones romeli WkuaTmyofeli

adamiani uwodebs?

grigoli: geeniis cecxli univTod migaCnia Tu _ niv-

Tierad?

petre: ar meeWveba, rom geeniis cecxli nivTieria da

sxeulebi masSi aucileblad daitanjebian.

grigoli: ukanasknel dRes gankiTxulT TviT WeSma-

riteba etyvis: `warvediT... cecxlsa mas saukunesa, ro-

meli ganmzadebul ars eSmakTaTÂs da angelozTa mis-

TaTÂs~ (maT. 25, 41). amgvarad, Tuki eSmaksa da mis ange-

lozebs, romlebic usxeuloni arian, nivTier cecxlSi

tanjva aqvT misjili, gasakviri ra aris, Tuki nivTier

tanjvas sulebi sxeulebTan SeerTebamde SeigrZnoben?

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petre: WeSmariteba cxadia da amasTan dakavSirebiT

goneba aRar unda eWvobdes.

Tavi ocdameaTe

ariozeli mefe Teodorikes aRsasruli

grigoli: radgan aseTi Zalisxmevis Sedegad irwmune,

vfiqrob jildod sarwmunoeba gagimravlo da is giambo,

rac sarwmuno adamianebisagan gavige. Svidi wlis win

gardacvlili iuliane, meore apokrisiari romis ekle-

siisa (romelsac RmrTis nebiT vemsaxurebi), CemTan xSi-

rad modioda, rodesac jer kidev monasterSi vcxov-

robdi da, rogorc wesi, sulis margebel sagnebze mesa-

ubreboda. erTxel man Semdegi ram miambo: `mefe Teodo-

rikes mefobis Jams Cemi simamris mama siciliaSi mebaJis

movaleobas asrulebda da ukve italiaSi brundeboda.

misi xomaldi kunZul lipariss miadga. iq erTi meudab-

noe cxovrobda, romelic udidesi saTnoebebiT iyo Sem-

kuli. vidre mezRvaurebi xomaldis aRkazmulobas amza-

debdnen, Cemi simamris mamam gadawyvita (Tanamgzavreb-

Tan erTad) RmrTis kaci moenaxulebina da misgan locva-

kurTxeva mieRo. wmindanma isini miiRo da saubarSi uT-

xra: `iciT, rom mefe Teodorike aResrula?~ mnaxve-

lebma maSinve miuges: `ara, Cven is cocxali davtoveT

da mis Sesaxeb msgavsi araferi gvsmenia~. RmrTis monam

kvlav uTxra: `marTla aResrula: guSin, cxra saaTze,

SiSveli da xelebSekruli, papma ioanem da patricma si-

maqma waiyvanes da mezoblad mdebare vulkanis yelSi Ca-

agdes~. amis gamgoneT is dRe zustad Caiweres da itali-

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aSi dabrunebulebma Seityves, rom mefe Teodorike swo-

red im dRes aResrula, rodesac RmrTis monas misi aR-

sasrulisa da sasjelis Sesaxeb ecnoba~. imis gamo, rom

mefe Teodorikem papi ioane sapyrobileSi awama, xolo

patrici simaqi maxviliT mokla, rogorc gamocxadebaSi

gamoCnda, cecxlSi swored imaT Caagdes, vinc man am

cxovrebaSi usamarTlod dasaja.

Tavi ocdameTerTmete

reparatis aRsasruli

im dros, rodesac ganmartoebis survili CemSi jer

kidev axali aRZruli iyo, CemTan erTi pativcemuli mo-

xuci, saxelad deusdediti, megobrobda, romelic Cveni

qalaqis warCinebul moqalaqeTa megobaric iyo. man Sem-

degi ram miambo: guTebis dros erTi warCinebuli kaci

(senatori), saxelad reparati, sikvdilis piras aRmoC-

nda. is micvalebuliviT xmawarTmeuli da gaSeSebuli

didxans iwva. mis sanaxavad mosulebi da ojaxis wevrebi

ukve rogorc micvalebuls, ise dastirodnen, magram is

uecrad gamococxlda da motiralTa cremli gakvirve-

bam Secvala. man Tqva: `wmida mowame lavrentis taZar-

Si, romelsac misi aRmaSeneblis saxelis mixedviT dama-

si ewodeba, saswrafod mona gagzavneT, raTa Seityos da

Cvenc gvacnobos, presviter tiburcis Tavs ra xdeba~.

tiburci, rogorc amboben, maSin xorciel vnebebs emone-

boda. misi cxovreba da zne im eklesiis amJamindel pres-

viter florencis kargad axsovs. mona wavida, xolo re-

paratma gviambo, rac Seityo iq, sadac aRyvanil iqna:

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`didi koconi iyo momzadebuli; presviteri tiburci

cecxlTan miiyvanes da Sig Caagdes; Semdeg SeSa Semouw-

yves da cecxli aenTo. meore koconic mzaddeboda, rome-

lic cas swvdeboda~. amis gamgone msmenelebma SesZaxes:

`visTvis?~ magram reparati am sityvebis warmoTqmisTa-

nave aResrula, xolo monas, romelic tiburcisTan gag-

zavnes, is micvalebuli daxvda. cxadia, reparati tan-

jvis adgilebze iqna miyvanili, ixila isini, sicocxles

daubrunda, gvamcno da Semdeg aResrula. es CvenTvis

moxda, raTa vidre am qveynad varT, ukeTur saqmeebs gan-

veSoroT. reparatma cecxlis momzadeba imitom ki ar

naxa, rom jojoxeTSi SeSa iwvis, aramed cocxalTaTvis

gasagebad rom gadmoeca, codvilTa tanjvis adgilze is

ixila, riTac amqveynad mcxovrebni nivTier cecxls an-

Teben, raTa maT nacnob sagnebze TxrobiT is Seicnon,

rac jer kidev ar ician.

Tavi ocdameTormete

kurialis aRsasruli, romlis saflavic daiwva

sirakuzis episkoposi, RmrTismoyvare maqsimiane, ro-

melic romSi Cems monasters didxans winamZRvrobda, va-

leriis olqSi momxdar erT sazarel ambavs miambobda.

iq erTi kuriali (romis kuriis wevri) did SabaTs naT-

lisRebis saidumloSi erT axalgazrda qalwuls naT-

liad daudga. saxlSi dabrunebulma Rvino uzomod da-

lia, Tavis naTluls sTxova im RamiT masTan darCenili-

yo da imave RamiT (saTqmeladac ki saSinelia) ganxrwna

igi. diliT, am uwmindurebis Cadenis Semdeg, abanoSi wa-

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sasvlelad moemzada, TiTqos codvas wyali Camorecxda;

daibana da SiSiT iwyo fiqri, eklesiaSi rogor wavido-

da: aseT dRes (aRdgomas) eklesiaSi ar misuliyo _

xalxis rcxvenoda, wasuliyo da _ RmerTis sasjelis

eSinoda. adamianTa winaSe sircxvilma sZlia da eklesia-

Si wavida, magram SiSiTa da ZrwoliT idga, yovel wuTs

eloda, rom arawminda suli ekveTeboda da wamebas xal-

xis winaSe dauwyebda, magram msgavsi ram wirvis ganmav-

lobaSi ar damarTnia. is gaxarebuli gamovida da ukve

sruliad uzrunvelad eklesiaSi meore dResac wavida.

is eklesiaSi amgvarad eqvsi dRe dadioda da fiqrobda,

rom RmerTs an misi codva ar uxilavs, an mowyalebiT

Seundo, magram meSvide dRes is moulodnelad mokvda da

daasaflaves. didi xnis Semdeg, yvelas Tvalwin, misi

saflavidan cecxli aRmoxda da mis Zvlebs iqamde wvav-

da, vidre kubo da masze dayrili miwac ar daiwva. amiT

yovlisSemZle RmerTma aCvena, ra dReSi iyo saidumlod

im adamianis suli, romlis sxeuli adamianTa Tvalwin

cecxliT Seimusra. Cven ki, am ambis msmenelT, sazareli

gakveTili mogvca, rogor itanjeba codvebis gamo coc-

xali da grZnobis mqone suli, Tuki amgvari cecxliT

ugrZnobi Zvlebic ki iwvis.

petre: msurs vicode, caTa sasufevelSi keTili ada-

mianebi erTmaneTs Tu cnoben da jojoxeTSi borotebi _

borotebs?

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Tavi ocdamecamete

Seicnoben Tu ara keTili adamianebi erTmaneTs caTa

sasufevelSi da borotebi _ borotebs jojoxeTSi?

grigoli: ufals am kiTxvaze dResaviT naTeli pasuxi

aqvs mocemuli sityvebSi, romlebic ukve moviyvaneT. iq

naTqvamia: `kaci vinme iyo mdidari da imoseboda Zoweu-

liTa da bisoniTa da ixarebda dRiTi-dRe brwyinvaled.

glaxaki vinme iyo, saxeliT lazare, davrdomili winaSe

bWeTa misTa da que Zureboda. da guli-etyoda ganZRebad

namusrevisagan gardamocÂvnebulisa tablisagan mis

mdidrisa. aramed ZaRlnica movidodes da hloSnides

wylulsa mas missa~ (luk. 16, 19-21). Semdeg naTqvamia,

rom `iyo sikudili glaxakisaÁ mis da miiyvana igi ange-

lozTagan wiaRTa abrahamisTa. mokuda mdidarica igi da

daefla. da jojoxeTs Sina aRixilna Tualni TÂsni, iyo

raÁ igi tanjvasa Sina, da ixila abrahami SoriT da la-

zare wiaRTa misTa. da man Ãma-yo da Tqua: mamao abraham,

Semiwyale me da moavline lazare, raÁTa daawos mwuer-

vali TiTisa misisaÁ wyalsa da ganmigrilos enaÁ Cemi,

rameTu vitanjebi me aliTa amiT cecxlisaÁTa. xolo ab-

raham hrqua mas: Svilo, moiÃsene, rameTu miiRe keTili

Seni cxorebasa Sensa, da lazare egreve msgavsad boro-

ti. da aw esera aqa ese nugeSinis-cemul ars, xolo Sen

itanjebi~ (luk. 16, 22-25). mdidars gadarCenis imedi

ukve aRar aqvs da Tavis axloblebze zrunavs, rom iqneb

isini mainc gadarCnen. is ambobs: `glocav Sen, mamao, mi-

avline ege saxlsa mamisa Cemisasa, rameTu misxen xuTni

Zmani, raÁTa auwyos maT, da ara moviden iginica adgilsa

amas satanjvelisasa. hrqua mas abraham: hqonan mose da

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winawarmetyuelni, maTi isminon~ (luk. 16, 28-29). am

sityvebiT sruliad cxadi xdeba, rom keTilebi keTi-

lebs Seicnoben da borotebi _ borotebs. abraams laza-

res Sesaxeb rom araferi scodnoda, satanjvelSi Cag-

debul mdidarTan saubarSi mis warsul tanjvas ver ax-

senebda, rodesac ambobs, rom lazarem boroteba am

cxovrebaSi daiTmina; da borotebic borotebs rom ar

icnobdnen, maSin satanjvelSi Cagdebuli mdidari Tavis

Zmebs, romlebic iq ar iyvnen, ar axsenebda: maT Sexved-

ris dros ratom ver icnobda, Tuki maTTvis xsovnis mi-

xedviT evedreba? aq imis danaxvac SeiZleba, rac Sen ar

gikiTxavs, kerZod, rom keTili adamianebi borotebs Se-

icnoben da borotebi _ keTilebs. abraamma mdidari ic-

no, rodesac eubneba: `miiRe keTili Seni cxorebasa Sen-

sa~. gangdebuli mdidari rCeul lazaresac cnobs, ro-

desac abraams evedreba is wargzavnos da saxeliT moix-

senebs: `moavline lazare, raÁTa daawos mwuervali Ti-

Tisa misisaÁ wyalsa da ganmigrilos enaÁ Cemi~. am Sec-

nobis gamo rogorc erTi, ise meore mxridan, misageblis

sazomi izrdeba: keTilni ufro metad xaroben, rodesac

maTTan erTad netarebaSi imaT xedaven, vinc uyvardaT.

borotni, rodesac maTTan erTad isini itanjebian, vinc

amqveynad uyvardaT, ara marto sakuTari, aramed imaTi

tanjviTac itanjebian. rCeulTa Soris kidev ufro ga-

saocari ram xdeba: isini ara marto imaT Seicnoben, vi-

sac amqveynad icnobdnen, aramed im madlmosil adamia-

nebsac nacnobebiviT Seicnoben, romlebic arasodes una-

xavT. rodesac maradiul samkvidrebelSi Zvel mamebs

ixilaven, maTTvis ucnobni ar darCebian, romelTac saq-

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meebis mixedviT yovelTvis icnobdnen. Tuki iq, zogad na-

TelSi, TiToeuli Wvrets RmerTs, raRa SeiZleba iyos

Seucnobi iq, sadac icnoben yovlismcnobels?

Tavi ocdameToTxmete

RmrTismosavi kaci, romelmac sikvdilis Jams

winaswarmetyvelebi ixila

erTma Cvenma axlobelma kacma, romelic Rirseulad,

RmrTismsaxurebiT cxovrobda da oTxi wlis win aRes-

rula, sxva RmrTismosav kacTa damowmebiT, vinc mis aR-

sasruls daeswro, sikvdilis Jams winaswarmetyvelebi

_ iona, ezekieli da danieli ixila, isini saxelebiT mo-

ixsenia da Tavisi batonebi uwoda. man masTan myofT wi-

naswarmetyvelTa mosvlis Sesaxeb acnoba, Tavmdabluri

gamoxedviT maT mimarT krZalva gamoxata da Semdeg su-

li RmerTs Sehvedra. aqedan sruliad cxadi xdeba, im

uxrwnel cxovrebaSi rogori Semecneba iqneba, rodesac

am kacma winaswarmetyvelni, romlebic TvaliT araso-

des uxilavs, jer kidev xrwnad xorcSi yofnis dros

Seicno.

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Tavi ocdameTxuTmete

erTmaneTisTvis ucnob adamianTa sulebi, romelTac

erTnairi sasjeli moeliT codvebisaTvis an

erTnairi jildo _ saTnoebebisaTvis, cnoben

erTmaneTs sikvdilis Jams; ioanesa da ursis,

evmorfisa da stefanes aRsasruli

Zalian xSirad momakvdavis suli imaTac ki cnobs, vis-

Tan erTadac, msgavsi codvebis an saTnoebebis gamo, moma-

val cxovrebaSi damkvidrdeba. Rirsi beris _ elefTe-

ris monasterSi, romlis Sesaxeb wina wignSi bevri visa-

ubre, misi RviZli Zma ioane cxovrobda, romelmac, misi

sityvebis Tanaxmad, Zmebis winaSe Tavisi aRsasruli or-

moci dRiT adre iwinaswarmetyvela. ioane Tavisi cxov-

rebis darCenil dReebs yoveldRiurad iTvlida da sik-

vdilamde sami dRiT adre daavadda. aRsasrulis win uf-

lis wmida xorcsa da sisxls eziara, Semdeg Zmebs mou-

woda da sTxova fsalmunebi egalobaT, TviTon ki anti-

foniT pasuxobda: `ganmixueniT me bWeni simarTlisani,

Sevide maT Sina da auvaro ufalsa. ese ars bWe uflisaÁ,

da marTalni Sevlenan mas Sina~ (fs. 117, 19-20). Zmebis

galobis dros ioanem xmamaRla SesZaxa: `urs, modi~.

amis gamoTqmisTanave man Tavisi miwieri cxovreba daas-

rula. Zmebs gaukvirdaT, radgan ar icodnen, vis mouxmo

momakvdavma. misma sikvdilma monasters didi mwuxareba

mohgvara. meoTxe dRes, samonastro saWiroebaTa gamo,

Zmebi maTgan moSorebiT mdebare monasterSi gagzavnes.

wargzavnilebma im monastris Zmebi didad damwuxrebul-

ni ixiles. rodesac maT mwuxarebis mizezi hkiTxes, mo-

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nazvnebma upasuxes: `monastris danakargs davtiriT:

Cveni Zma, romlis cxovreba am monasterSi Cvens yofas

ganamtkicebda, meoTxe dRea, rac amqveynidan gavida. mo-

sulma Zmebma krZalviT ikiTxes misi saxeli, romlis pa-

suxad esmaT: `ursi~. rodesac misi aRsasrulis Jami

zedmiwevniT gamoikiTxes, Seityves, rom ursi swored im

dros aRsrulebuliyo, rodesac mas ioanem mouxmo. aqe-

dan cxadia, rom micvalebulTa damsaxurebani erTnairi

iyo da imaT, vinc erTdroulad aResrulnen, jildod

mieniWaT erT adgilze damkvidreba.

ver davdumdebi agreTve imis Sesaxeb, rac jer kidev

eriskacobaSi mezoblebisagan gavige. maSin romSi, Cems

saxlSi vcxovrobdi, romelic mamisgan memkvidreobiT

mergo. Cems mezoblad erTi qvrivi dedakaci, saxelad

gala, cxovrobda. mas axalgazrda vaJiSvili hyavda, sa-

xelad evmorfi. maT Soriaxlos vinme stefane cxovrob-

da, romelic optionis1 movaleobas asrulebda. rodesac

evmorfis aRsasruli axlovdeboda, monas mouxmo da am-

gvari ram ubrZana: `wadi Cqara da option stefanes uT-

xari, saswrafod movides, imitom, rom xomaldi mzad

aris, romliTac siciliaSi unda gavemgzavroT~. monas

egona, rom is bodavda da brZanebis aRsruleba arc

ufiqria. maSin evmorfi daemuqra: `wadi da uTxari, rac

dagabare, srulebiT ar vbodav~. mona wavida, magram Sua

gzaze ucnobi Sexvda da hkiTxa: `saiT gagiwevia?~ monam

miugo: `Cemma batonma option stefanesTan gamgzavna~.

1 ase erqva mxedarTmTavris movaleobis aRmasrulebels, agreTve

asisTavis Semcvlels misi aryofnis SemTxvevaSi.

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man uTxra: `me stefanesgan movdivar, is Cems iq yofnaSi

aResrula~. mona dabrunda Tavis batonTan, magram is

gardacvlili daxvda. amgvarad, Tuki monas ambis Sem-

tyobi Sua gzaze Semoxvda, maSin ganvlili manZilis mi-

xedviT SeiZleba davaskvnaT, rom gardacvlilebi amqvey-

nidan erTsa da imave wuTs iqnen gayvanilni.

petre: Seni monaTxrobi SemaZrwunebelia. magram miT-

xari, geTayva, momakvdavis suls xomaldi ratom warmo-

udga an ratom iwinaswarmetyvela, rom siciliaSi waiy-

vandnen?

grigoli: suls etli ar sWirdeba, magram gasakviri

ar aris, Tuki jer kidev xorcSi myof adamians is war-

moudgeba, ris xilvasac xorcieli TvaliT mieCvia, raTa

amgvarad mixvdes, rogori sulieri gza elis. momakvda-

vis mowmoba, rom mas siciliaSi waiyvandnen, SesaZloa

imas niSnavdes, rom am kunZulebze, sxva adgilebisgan

gansxvavebiT, vulkanis yelidan amofrqveuli cecxli

codvilTa dasatanjad aris momzadebuli. vulkanis ye-

li, rogorc TviTmxilvelebi gadmogvcemen, yoveldRiu-

rad izrdeba. ase rom, qveynis aRsasrulis moaxlovebas-

Tan erTad, rac ufro meti codvili grovdeba iq, ro-

melTac cecxlSi tanjva aqvT misjili, miT ufro far-

Tovdeba tanjvis adgilebic.1 xolo imaSi, rom erTnairi

1 azri, rom gardacvlil codvilTa sulebi miwisqveSa cecxlSi

itanjebian, pirvel saukuneebSi dasavleTSi sakmaod gavrcelebu-

li iyo. es azri aRmosavleTSic gvxvdeba (ix. mag. pruseli episko-

posis, mRvdelmowame patrikiosis cxovreba. xs. 19 maiss). Tumca

arc wmida werili da arc eklesiis moZRvreba am sakiTxze dazuste-

bul swavlebas ar gamoTqvams.

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saqmeebis mixedviT erTnairi xvedri ergebaT da erTna-

ir adgilebs daimkvidreben rogorc rCeulni, aseve gan-

gdebulni, WeSmaritebis mier gamoTqmuli sityvebi dag-

varwmunebs, sakmao magaliTebi romc ar arsebobdes.

qriste marTalTa mimarT brZanebs: `saxlsa mamisa Cemi-

sasa savane mraval arian~ (ioan. 14, 2). maradiul cxov-

rebaSi misagebeli rom yvelasTvis erTnairi iyos, maSin

savanec erTi iqneboda da ara _ mravali. amgvarad, mra-

vali savane arsebobs, sadac keTilni xarisxebis mixed-

viT mkvidroben. damsaxurebebSi Tanaziarobis gamo isini

erTad netareben da yoveli muSaki TiTo drahkans mainc

miiRebs (maT. 20, 9); magram netarebani savaneebis mixed-

viT gansxvavdebian; erTia netareba, romliTac isini

tkbebian, magram gansxvavebulia sazomi sxvadasxva dam-

saxurebisaTvis. ufali, rodesac samsjavros dReze

gvamcnobs, brZanebs: `SekribeT pirvelad RuarZli igi

da SekarT Zneulad, raÁTa daiwuas igi~ (maT. 13, 30), anu

angelozebi RvarZls Znebad dasawvavad hkraven, e.i. er-

Tnairebs erTnairi tanjvisTvis agroveben; magaliTad,

ampartavnebi cecxlSi ampartavnebTan erTad iqnebian

Cagdebulni; gancxromiTa da fufunebiT mcxovrebni _

TavisnairebTan erTad iqnebian, Zunwebi _ ZunwebTan er-

Tad, matyuarebi _ Tavissave msgavsebTan, Surianebi _

SurianebTan, urwmunoni _ urwmunoebTan damkvidrdebi-

an. rodesac angelozebi erTnairi codviT Semcodeebs

tanjvis adgilebze anawileben da erTnair satanjvelSi

agdeben, maSin, erTgvarad, TiTqos RvarZls Znebad cec-

xlSi Casagdebad hkraven.

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petre: Cemi kiTxva srulad aris ganmartebuli, mag-

ram miTxari, geTayva, eg rogor aris, rom zogjer suli

sxeulidan TiTqos gadis, Semdeg ki kvlav usicocxlo

sxeulSi brundeba?

Tavi ocdameTeqvsmete

sulebis Sesaxeb, romlebic TiTqos sxeulidan

mxolod moCvenebiTad gadian; monazon petres

gardacvaleba da gacocxleba, stefanes sikvdili

da mkvdreTiT aRdgoma; erTi meomris xilva

grigoli: es gasvla moCvenebiTi ki ar aris, petre,

aramed gafrTxilebaa, Tuki yuradRebiT davakvirdebiT.

RmerTi Tavisi saxierebiTa da gamouTqmeli mowyalebiT

imgvarad awyobs, rom zogierTi adamiani WeSmariti sik-

vdilis Semdeg moulodnelad cocxldeba da SiSi euf-

leba nanaxi jojoxeTuri tanjvis gamo, romlis Sesaxeb

gagonili ki hqonda, magram ar swamda. erTi ilirieli

monazoni, romelic am qalaqSi CemTan erTad cxovrobda

monasterSi, ambavs momiTxrobda, romelic erT iberiel

monazon petres gadaxda. rodesac is ilirieli monazo-

ni udabnoSi cxovrobda, romelsac evaza hqvia, masTan

swored es petre dasaxlda da Tavis Sesaxeb amgvari ram

uambo: udabnoSi wasvlamde, mZime avadmyofobis Semdeg,

petre gardaicvala, magram sicocxle male daubrunda.

man cecxliT aRvsili jojoxeTuri tanjvis uamravi ad-

gili ixila, sadac ramdenime gamoCenili adamianic naxa.

rodesac cecxlSi Casagdebad isic mihyavdaT, uecrad

brwyinvale samosiT Semosili angelozi gamoCnda, ro-

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melmac misi cecxlSi Cagdebis ufleba ar misca da pet-

res uTxra: `dabrundi da yuradRebiT daufiqrdi, amis

Semdeg rogor unda icxovro~. am sityvebis Semdeg mic-

valebuls sxeuli TandaTan gauTba, maradiuli sikvdi-

lis Zilisgan gaiRviZa da mohyva, rac daemarTa. am saza-

reli ambis Semdeg is gamofxizlda da imgvari marxviTa

da mRviZarebiT cxovrobda, romc araferi eTqva, TviT

misi cxovreba acxadebda, rom jojoxeTuri tanjva ixi-

la da SeZrwunebuli iyo. amgvarad, RmerTis saxierebam

sikvdilis gziT ixsna is maradiuli sikvdilisgan.

radgan adamianis guli zogjer mometebulad aris ga-

uxeSebuli, keTilismyofeli gavlena TviT jojoxeTu-

ri satanjvelis xilvasac ki ara aqvs. stefane, saxel-

ganTqmuli kaci, romelsac kargad icnob, Cveulebriv,

Tavis Tavze mogviTxrobda, rom raRac saqmis gamo kon-

stantinopolSi Seyovnda, avad gaxda da gardaicvala. im

dRes eqimi da nelsacxeblebis gamyidveli ver naxes,

rom misi sxeuli gaekveTaT da balzamireba moexdinaT.

sxeuli momdevno RamiTac ar daukrZalavT. stefane jo-

joxeTSi iqna Cayvanili da mravali iseTi ram naxa, rac

manamde ar swamda. iq igi msajulTan miiyvanes, magram man

ar miiRo da Tqva: `amis moyvana ki ar dagavaleT, aramed

mWedel stepanesi~. is dauyovnebliv sxeulSi daabru-

nes, xolo stepane, romelic mis mezoblad cxovrobda,

im wamsve gardaicvala. amgvarad, TviT stepanes sik-

vdilma daamtkica, rom stefanes mier gagonili sityve-

bi simarTles Seesabameboda.

Sen ici, rom es stefane im Jamianobamde, romelmac

Cveni qalaqi mosra, sami wliT adre gardaicvala. maSin

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xorcieli TvaliTac ki Canda isrebi, romlebic zecidan

eSveboda da yvelas sikvdiliT emuqreboda. Cvens qalaq-

Si erTi meomari im sneulebiT daavadda da gardaicvala.

misi sxeuli usulod esvena, magram misi suli sxeulSi

male dabrunda da garSemomyofT uambobda, Tu ra gadax-

da. rogorc is ambobda, xidi ixila, romlis qveS Savi da

burusiT moculi mdinare miedineboda da iqidan saSine-

li simyrale da Savi nisli amodioda. xids iqiT farTo,

amwvanebuli mindori Canda, romelic surnelovani mce-

nareebiT iyo dafaruli. iq TeTrebSi mosil adamianTa

krebuli moCanda. im adgilze iseTi keTilsurneleba

iyo, rom TviT es keTilsurneleba kvebavda iq mcxovreb

adamianebs. iq sxvadasxvagvari, sinaTliT aRvsili sax-

lebi idga. iqve idga saocrad lamazi saxli, romelic

TiTqos oqros agurebiT iyo agebuli, magram visi iyo,

ver Seityo. mdinaris pirzec idga saxlebi. zogierTSi

simyrale da sibnele aRwevda, romelsac mdinare gamos-

cemda, sxvebSi ki _ ara. xidze gadamsvlels amgvari gan-

sacdeli unda gadaelaxa: Tuki usjulo mis gadalaxvas

moisurvebda, is mdinareSi vardeboda, xolo marTlebi,

romelTac codva ar amZimebdaT, mSvenier mindorze Ta-

visuflad da uSiSrad gadadiodnen. man Tqva, rom iq ixi-

la saeklesio Temis ufrosi petre, romelic oTxi wlis

win aResrula. is am sazarel adgilze TavdaRma ekida da

mZime borkilebiT iyo Sekruli. rodesac ikiTxa, amgva-

rad ris gamo itanjeboda, esma is, rac Cvenc, vinc mas

vicnobdiT saeklesio TemSi, gvagondeba. kerZod, iTqva:

`imitom itanjeba amgvarad, rom rodesac vinmes dasjas

ubrZanebdnen, is ara imdenad movaleobas aRasrulebda,

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ramdenadac mrisxanebis vnebiT aRZruli urtyamda~. es

rom marTlac ase iyo, yvelam icis, vinc mas icnobda. iq

kidev erTi ucxotomeli presviteri vixile, _ mogviT-

xrobda is, _ romelic xsenebul xidze iseTi gabedule-

biT gadavida, rogori gulwrfelobiTac amqveynad cxov-

robda. imave xidze icno man stefanec, romelic zemoT

vaxseneT. rodesac stefanem xidze gadasvla moisurva,

fexi daucda da welamde xids qveviT aRmoCnda, sadac

mdinaridan sazareli garegnobis kacebi amodiodnen da

fexiT qveviT eweodnen, xolo sxvebi, mSvenieri garegno-

bisani, TeTrebSi Semosilni, mxrebiT zeviT eweodnen. am

brZolis dros, anu rodesac keTili sulebi zeviT ewe-

odnen, xolo borotebi _ qveviT, am xilvis mxilveli

sxeulSi dabrunda da araferi icoda, Semdeg stefanes

ra daemarTa. im SemTxvevis mixedviT, rac stefanes Seem-

Txva, SeiZleba davaskvnaT, rom sicocxleSi masSi xor-

cieli ukeTureba mowyalebis saqmeebs ebrZoda. imis mi-

xedviT, rom mas fexiT qveviT eweodnen, xolo mxrebiT

zeviT, cxadia, rom mas mowyalebac uyvarda da srulad

arc codvas ewinaaRmdegeboda. magram faruli gulis-

sityvebis am brZolaSi romeli sZlevs, arc CvenTvis

aris cnobili da arc imisTvis, vinc ixila da kvlav am

cxovrebaSi dabrunda. mxolod is aris cxadi, rom ste-

fanem arc jojoxeTis xilvis Semdeg gamoaswora cxov-

reba jerovnad da mravali wlis Semdeg (maradiul) si-

cocxlesa da sikvdils Soris axali brZolisaTvis gar-

daicvala. amiT imasac vigebT, rom jojoxeTuri satan-

jvelis xilva zogierTebisTvis sasargebloa, sxvebis-

Tvis ki _ zianis momtani: erTni mas saSinelebis xilvis

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Semdeg ufrTxian, sxvebi ki ufro mkacrad ganisjebian,

rom ar isurves ukve nanaxi da maTTvis cnobili jojo-

xeTis satanjveli aecdinaT.

petre: miTxari, geTayva, ras niSnavs, rom mSvenier

adgilze oqros agurebiT agebuli saxli idga? sasaci-

lod meCveneba imis dajereba, rom aseTi liTonebi im

cxovrebaSic dagvWirdeba.

Tavi ocdameCvidmete

ras niSnavs saxlis ageba mSvenier adgilze.

deusdediti, romlis saxli, xilvis Tanaxmad,

mxolod SabaTobiT Sendeboda. sodomelTa

sasjelis Sesaxeb

grigoli: ase vin ifiqrebs, Tu saR gonebazea? nanaxi

cxadad gviCvenebs, aq rogor iRvwis is, visTvisac saxli

Sendeba. vinc aq uxvi mowyalebebiT maradiuli naTlis

jildos daimsaxurebs, ueWvelia, iq oqros saxls ai-

gebs. imasac getyvi, rac adre gamomrCa: is meomari, ro-

melmac Senobebi ixila, gviambobda, rom oqros agurebi

saxlis asagebad moxucebsa da Wabukebs, qalwulebsa da

yrmebs mohqondaT. aqedan cxadia, rom isini, vis mimar-

Tac mwyalobelma siyvaruli gamoxata, iq misTvis saxls

agebdnen.

CvenTan axlos erTi RmrTismosavi xarazi, saxelad

deusdediti cxovrobda. igi sxva kacma xilvaSi ase naxa:

misTvis saxli Sendeboda, magram mSeneblebi mxolod Sa-

baTobiT muSaobdnen. man, visac xilva hqonda, gamoZiebis

Semdeg Seityo, rom deusdedits wesad hqonda yovel Sa-

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baTs wmida petres taZarSi misuliyo da upovarTaTvis

is mieca, rac kviris danarCen dReebSi saWmelisa da sa-

mosis SeZenis Semdeg rCeboda. amitom Canda, rom misi

saxli mxolod SabaTobiT Sendeboda.

petre: sakmaod Sevityve am sakiTxis Sesaxeb. magram,

miTxari, geTayva, ratom aRwevda zogierT saxlSi myra-

li wyvdiadi, zogierTs ki ar exeboda? agreTve, romeli

mdinare da xidi ixila gardacvlilma?

grigoli: simboluri xilvebis mixedviT SegviZlia,

sayvarelo petre, adamianTa damsaxurebani SevicnoT. me-

omarma marTlebi xidis gavliT mSvenier adgilze gada-

sulebi imitom ixila, rom `iwro ars bWe da saWirvel

gzaÁ, romeli miiyvanebs cxorebasa~ (maT. 7, 14). qvemoT

amyralebuli mdinare imitom ixila, rom amqveynidan

jojoxeTSi yovedRiurad xorcieli vnebis simyrale Ca-

edineba. myrali wyvdiadi zogierT saxlSi aRwevda, xo-

lo zogierTebs _ ver exeboda: es niSnavs, rom arsebo-

ben adamianebi, romlebic mraval sikeTes akeTeben, mag-

ram warmosaxvebSi xorcieli sibilwiT tkbebian. myra-

li sibnele sruliad samarTlianad aRwevs imaT saxleb-

Si, visac aq xorcis surneli atkbobs. netarma iobma

xorcieli tkboba surnelis saxiT ixila da gancxroma-

Si myof da gemoTmoyvare adamianze Semdegi sityvebi

warmoTqva: `WiaRuebi atkbaruneben mas~ (iob. 24, 20).

vinc guls xorcieli tkbobisgan srulebiT icavs, maT

saxlebSi, eWvgareSea, simyrale ver aRwevs. isic unda

aRvniSnoT, rom man myrali sibnele Cvens gansaswavlad

ixila, radgan xorcieli tkboba maTdami damonebuli

adamianis gonebas imdenad abnelebs, rom is WeSmariti

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naTlis elvarebas veRar xedavs _ rac ufro bilwi sia-

movnebebiT aris dacemuli, misTvis umaRlesi sagnebi

miT meti sibneliT arian moculi.

petre: SeiZleba wmida werilis monaTxrobiT dava-

dasturoT, rom xorciel adamianTa codvebi simyraliT

isjeba?

grigoli: SeiZleba. Sesaqmis wignidan viciT, rom

`ufalman awKma sodomsa da gomorsa zeda wunwubaY da

cecxli~ (dab. 19, 24), raTa am qalaqTa mcxovrebni cec-

xlsac daewva da gogirdis myral sunsac daetanja. isi-

ni xrwnadi sxeulis mimarT danaSaulebrivi siyvaru-

liT iwvodnen, amitomac cecxlisa da simyralisagan

amowydnen, raTa TavianT sasjelSi SeecnoT, rom mara-

diul sikvdils Tavisive vnebebis simyraliT tkbobisaT-

vis miecnen.

petre: vaRiareb, aRaraferi maqvs imis sawinaaRmdego,

raSic aqamde eWvi Semqonda.

Tavi ocdameTvramete

jer kidev sxeulSi myofi sulebi momaval sasjels

nawilobriv xedaven; yrma Teodores Sesaxeb;

qrisaorisa da ikonieli monazvnis aRsasruli

grigoli: imis codnac gmarTebs, rom zogjer, jer

kidev sxeulSi myofi sulebi, maTTvis gankuTvnil sas-

jels nawilobriv xedaven. es TviT maTi an msmenelTa

swavlebisTvis xdeba. CemTan, monasterSi, erTi yrma da-

saxlda. mas Tavisi Zma Teodorec mohyva, ufro gamouva-

li mdgomareobis gamo, vidre _ Tavisi nebiT. is friad

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mousvenari iyo, Tuki vinme sulis xsnaze saubrobda,

mosmena umZimda, radgan araTu sikeTis qmna, masze sit-

yvis gagonebac ar SeeZlo. Teodore ficiT, mrisxanebiTa

da dacinvebiT adasturebda, rom monazvnuri wmida

cxovreba arasodes surda. Jamianobis dros, romelmac

qalaqis mosaxleobis TiTqmis naxevari imsxverpla, isic

daavadda da sikvdilis piras aRmoCnda. masTan Zmebi Se-

ikribnen, rom mis aRsasruls locviT Sexvedrodnen. mas

kidurebi ukve civi hqonda da macocxlebeli siTbo mxo-

lod mkerdSi hqonda SerCenili. Zmebma misi aRsasrulis

moaxloveba rom igrZnes, locva ufro gulmodgined da-

iwyes. uecrad man xmamaRali SeyvirebiT maT locva Seaw-

yvetina: `gamecaleT, gamecaleT; urCxuls var micemu-

li SesaWmelad, magram Tqveni aq yofnis gamo ver mWams.

Cemi Tavi ukve gadaylapa; mieciT saSualeba, rom metad

aRar mawamos da rac unda, miyos. Tuki unda SemWamos,

Tqven gamo rad unda Seyovndes?~ maSin Zmebma uTxres:

`Zmao, ras ambob? pirjvari gamoisaxe~. magram man yvi-

riliT upasuxa: `minda pirjvari gamovisaxo, magram mi-

si qercli xels miSlis~. amis gamgone Zmebi miwaze ga-

nerTxnen da mis dasaxsnelad locva kidev ufro mxurva-

led, cremliT daiwyes. uecrad sneuli ukeT gaxda da

xmamaRla SesZaxa: `madloba RmerTs! urCxuli, romelic

SeWmas mipirebda, gaiqca. is Tqvenma locvam gandevna, aq

dgoma veRar SeZlo. iloceT mxolod Cemi codvebis ga-

mo, mzad var Sevinano da saero cxovreba sruliad dav-

tovo~. amgvarad, adamians, romelsac kidurebi ukve ci-

vi hqonda, sicocxle daubrunda, radgan mTeli guliT

RmerTisken moiqca. mas Semdeg man azrebi Seicvala,

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gulSemusvrilebiT xangrZlivad iRvawa da misi suli

sxeuls mxolod amis Semdeg gaeyara.

piriqiT, qrisaori, rogorc zemoT naxsenebi probi

gviambobda, Zalian mdidari iyo da imdenive mankiereba

hqonda, ramdenic qoneba: qedmaRali da ampartavani iyo,

xorciel vnebebs damonebuli, angari da xarbi, simdid-

ris SeZenis surviliT Sepyrobili. RmerTma ganaCina mi-

si bilwebisTvis bolo moeRo da xorcieli sneuleba mo-

uvlina. qrisaori sikvdilis piras aRmoCnda da swored

im dros, rodesac suli xorcs unda gahyroda, TvaliT

Savi da sazareli sulebi ixila, romlebic mis winaSe

idgnen da mzad iyvnen misi suli jojoxeTis sapyrobi-

leSi Casagdebad amoetacaT. is aTrTolda, gafiTrda,

xmamaRla iTxovda drois gaxangrZlivebas da ucnauri

da SemaZrwunebeli xmiT eZaxda Svils, maqsimes, rome-

lic me ukve monazoni vixile: `maqsime, gamoiqeci, Sen-

Tvis cudi araferi gamikeTebia, Semewie Seni rwmeniT~.

SeSfoTebulma maqsimem maSinve moirbina; mTeli ojaxi

Seikriba tiriliTa da ZrwoliT. borot sulebs, ro-

melTagan is ase itanjeboda, isini ver xedavdnen, magram

misi SfoTis mixedviT maTi iq yofna Seicnes. maTi Savi

saxeebis xilviT SeZrwunebuli qrisaori sawolSi aqeT-

iqiT awydeboda. maT marcxena mxares gadabrunebulic

xedavda da kedlisken miqceulic. ukiduresad SeWirve-

bulma maTgan gamoxsnis imedi dakarga da xmamaRla ay-

virda: `Tundac dilamde macaleT! Tundac dilamde!~

magram suli swored am yvirilSi amoarTves. cxadia,

rom es xilva iyo ara misTvis, aramed _ CvenTvis, raTa

misma xilvam sargebloba Cven mogvitanos, radgan mas

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xilvam ra sargebloba moutana, rodesac dros iTxovda

da ar mieca?

Cveni isavrieli presviteri aTanase sazarel ambavs

gadmogvcems, romelic misi ikoniaSi msaxurobis dros

moxda. iq aris galatelTa monasteri, romelSic erTi

monazoni didi pativiscemiT sargeblobda. gareganad

yvela qmedebiT is keTilis aRmasrulebeli da RmrTis

moSiSi Canda, magram sinamdvileSi ise ar cxovrobda,

rogorc erTi SexedviT gegoneboda. es misma aRsasrul-

ma gamoaCina. Zmebs is Tavs mmarxvelad aCvenebda, magram

Cvevis gamo farulad Wamda. Zmebma misi mankierebis Sesa-

xeb araferi icodnen. avadmyofobis gamo is sikvdilis

piras aRmoCnda. aRsasrulis win man Zmebs uxmo. Zmebi

misgan raime sanugeSosa da didebuls elodnen, radgan

did mosagred miaCndaT, magram is SfoTiTa da TrTol-

viT unda gamomtydariyo, romeli mtris xelSi iyo Ca-

vardnili sikvdilis win. momakvdavi ambobda: `rodesac

Tqven gegonaT, rom TqvenTan erTad vmarxulobdi, faru-

lad vWamdi, da aha, urCxulma unda SemWamos, romelmac

kudiT fexebi Semikra, xolo Tavi pirSi Camiyo da suls

mwovs!~ am sityvebis warmoTqmisas is aResrula. urCxu-

li, romelic man ixila, ar elodeboda, is sinanuliT

misgan rodis gaTavisufldeboda. rogorc Cans, monazon-

ma xilva mxolod msmenelTa sargeblobisaTvis ixila.

man Tavi ver daaRwia mters, romelsac ase aSkarad emo-

neboda.

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Tavi ocdamecxramete 1

petre Tqua: maswave ese, RmrTivganbrZnobilo mamao,

ukueTu ars Semdgomad sikudilisa SendobaY codvaTaY.

grigol Tqua: ufali Cueni saxarebasa Sina ityKs:

`vidodeT, vidre naTeli gaqus~ (ioan. 12,35); da wina-

warmetyuelis mier ityKs: `Jamsa Sewynarebisasa vismine

Seni da dResa cxorebisasa Segewie Sen~ (es. 49,8). amas

sityuasa Targmnis wmidaY mociquli pavle da ityKs:

`esera aw ars Jami igi Sewynarebuli, aw ars dRe igi

cxorebisaY~ (2 kor. 6,2); da solomon ityKs: `ravdenca

eZlos Pelsa Sensa saqmed, iqmode, raodenca Zal-gic,

rameTu ara ars arca saqme, arca sibrZne, arca mecnie-

rebaY jojoxeTs Sina~ (ekl. 9,10). amaT wamebaTagan da

sxuaTa mravalTa sarwmuno ars da WeSmarit, viTarmed

viTarca amier sofliT ganvides suli, egreTca wardgo-

mad ars gankiTxvasa mas da verRara Pel-ewifebis Sem-

dgomad amier ganslvisa sinanuli. garna ese iqmnebis

mravliTa miT wyalobiTa RmrTisaYTa, romel locviTa

da vedrebiTa amas sofelsa myofTa RmrTismoyuareTaTa

iqmnebis SendobaY, ukueTu mciredni raYme cTomani aR-

srulebulTani iyvnen da ara mZimeni codvani. rameTu

gansruli igi sofliT verca didTa, verca mZimeTaRa

codvaTa SemZlebel ars sinanulad. xolo locviTa aqa

1 Tanamedrove rusul gamocemaSi aRniSnulia, rom es Tavi amoRe-

bulia, rogorc wmida grigol dioloRosis kerZo mosazreba, ro-

melic SemdgomSi marTlmadidebelma eklesiam ar gaiziara. am Tavs

vbeWdavT wmida efTvime aToneliseuli Targmanidan (xeln. A-121).

wmida efTvimes teqsti marTlmadidebluri swavlebis Sesabamisad

Seusworebia, gamoutovebia saeWvo adgilebi. _ mTargmn. Sen.

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myofTaTa subuqTa cTomaTa Sendoba iqmnebis saxierebiTa

uflisaYTa, da egreTve, ukueTu iyos kaci igi RmrTis

msaxur da uZRodes keTilnica saqmeni, da amis saqmisa

saxenica moswavebul arian.

Tavi meormoce

diakvan pasxazis sulis Sesaxeb

rodesac Wabuki viyav da saero samosiT vimosebodi,

ufrosi adamianebisgan gavige, rom Cveni samociqulo

saydris diakvani, pasxazi, romlisgan suliwmidis Sesa-

xeb naTliTa da WeSmaritebiT aRsavse wignebi gvaqvs,

sakvirveli siwmindis, mowyale adamiani iyo. is sakuTar

Tavze ar zrunavda da upovarT aZlevda sazrdos. pasxa-

zi morwmuneebs Soris wamoWril mxurvale davaSi sima-

qisa da lavrentis gamo, romlebic pirvelierarqis

taxtze unda aerCiaT, mxars ukanasknels uWerda. sxvaTa

erTsulovani winaaRmdegobiT Zleuli, is sicocxlis

bolomde Tavisi azris erTguli darCa, lavrenti uy-

varda da upiratesobas mas aniWebda, romelic episko-

posTa msjavrma eklesiis winamZRolobis Rirsi ar gaxa-

da. pasxazi im dros aResrula, rodesac samociqulo

saydars simaqi ganagebda. rodesac pasxazis cxedars mi-

asvenebdnen, erTi Sepyrobili mis sudaras Seexo da ma-

Sinve ganikurna. didi xnis Semdeg, kapuis episkopos

germanes, romelic zemoT vaxseneT, eqimebma sneulebis-

gan gansakurneblad angulianis sabanelSi ganbana urCi-

es. sabanelSi Sesulma, diakvani pasxazi ixila, romelic

iq idga da msaxurobda. germane misma iq yofnam metisme-

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tad gaakvirva da daekiTxa, aseT saxelovan kacs aq ra

gindao. pasxazim miugo: `dasjili imisTvis var, rom si-

maqis winaaRmdeg mxars lavrentis vuWerdi. gTxov,

RmerTs CemTvis Seevedre; Seni locva Tu Sewynarebul

iqna, aq mosuli veRar mixilav~. wmida germane misTvis

gulSemusvrilebiT loculobda da ramdenime dRis Sem-

deg sabanelSi misulma diakvani pasxazi veRar naxa. man

sikvdilis Semdeg SeZlo codvisgan ganwmendiliyo, imi-

tom, rom scodavda ara borotebiT, aramed _ Secdomis

gamo. unda gvwamdes, rom glaxakTa mimarT mowyalebiT

pasxazim Sewyaleba maSin daimsaxura, rodesac aRaraf-

ris qmna aRar SeeZlo.

petre: miTxari, am bolo dros sulebis Sesaxeb ra-

tom gvecxadeba bevri ram, rac aqamde cnobili ar iyo,

imdenad, rom am gamocxadebebiTa da niSebiT, rogorc

Cans, Cvens winaSe momavali qveyana cxaddeba?

Tavi ormocdameerTe

ratom gvecxadeba bolo dros sulebis Sesaxeb

bevri ram, rac aqamde cnobili ar iyo?

grigoli: es simarTlea. awindeli cxovreba rac uf-

ro dasasruls uaxlovdeba, momavali cxovreba miT uf-

ro axlobeli xdeba da miT ufro cxadi niSnebiT gvecxa-

deba. Tuki am cxovrebaSi erTmaneTis azrebs ver vxe-

davT, momavalSi ki erTmaneTs gulebSi CavxedavT, maS am-

Jamindel cxovrebas ra unda vuwodoT, Tu ara _ wyvdia-

di, xolo momavals ra davarqvaT, Tu ara _ dRe? magram,

rogorc Ramisa da dRis gasayarze, mzis amosvlis win,

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wyvdiadi da sinaTle erTgvarad erTimeoreSia areuli

da warsuli Ramis narCens momavali dRis naTeli sru-

lebiT STanTqavs, aseve im dros, rodesac amqveynis dasa-

vali momavlis aRmosavals SeerTvis, amqveynis wyvdia-

dis narCens sulieri qveynis naTeli gafantavs. Tumca

mraval rasme SevicnobT, rac imqveyniurs ekuTvnis, mag-

ram mas srulad imitom ver vwvdebiT, rom vWvretT, ro-

gorc ciskris bindbundSi, mzis amosvlis win.

petre: momwons Seni naazrevi. magram pasxazis, am wmi-

da mosagris gamo, uneblieT kiTxva Cndeba: sikvdilis

Semdeg dasjis adgilze rogor aRmoCnda amgvari mosag-

re, romlis sudaras eSmakeulisgan boroti sulis gan-

devnis Zala hqonda?

grigoli: am SemTxvevaSi SegviZlia SevicnoT, ra mra-

valferovania yovlisSemZle RmerTis ganmgebloba. Tavi-

si msjavriT man amgvarad ganaCina: wmida mosagre pas-

xazs erTxans sasjeli codvebisTvis moewia da amave

dros sikvdilis Semdeg sxeuliT saswaulebs im adamian-

Ta Tvalwin aRasrulebda, vinc mis mier sicocxleSi aR-

srulebuli keTili saqmeebi icoda, raTa imaTac, vinc

mis keTil saqmeebs xedavda, misi mowyalebis Rirseba Se-

ecnoT, xolo TviTon sasjelis gareSe ar darCeniliyo

im codvis gamo, romelic codvad ar miaCnda da misgan

cremliT ar ganiwminda.

petre: Seni sityvebi avwon-davwone da Seni dasabuTe-

biT SiSi ara marto im codvebis gamo aRmeZra, romlebic

vici, aramed imaT gamoc, romlebic ar Semicvnia. magram,

miTxari, geTayva, ramdenadac cota xnis win dasjis ad-

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gilebze gvqonda saubari, jojoxeTi sad unda vigulis-

xmoT, miwaze Tu miwis qveSeTSi?

Tavi ormocdameore

sad unda vigulisxmoT jojoxeTi?

grigoli: ver vkadnierdebi, daufiqreblobiT am sa-

kiTxze raime gadaWriT vTqva. zogierTebs jojoxeTi

dedamiwis garkveul nawilze miaCndaT, sxvebs miaCniaT,

rom is miwisqveSeTSia. unda SevniSno, rom Tuki jojo-

xeTs qvesknels imitom vuwodebT, rom qveviT mdebare-

obs, maSin jojoxeTi dedamiwis mimarT iseTive mdebare-

obaSi aRmoCndeba, rogorc cis mimarT mdebareobs deda-

miwa. SesaZloa fsalmunTmgalobeli amitom ambobs: `ix-

sen suli Cemi jojoxeTisagan quesknelisa~ (fs. 85, 13),

raTa gviCvenos, rom dedamiwa erTgvarad zeda jojoxe-

Tia, xolo dedamiwis qveviT aris qvesknelis jojoxeTi.

am azrs ioane maxareblis sityvebic mowmobs, romelmac

Svidi dabeWdili wigni ixila da arc caSi, arc dedami-

waze, arc qvesknelSi _ Rirseuli aravin gamoCnda, rom

gaeRo wigni da aexsna beWedni: `da me vtirode friad~,

_ ambobs igi (gamocx. 5, 4). Tumca Semdeg ambobs, rom

wigni gaxsna `lomman Teslisgan iudaÁsa~. am wignSi ra

unda igulisxmebodes, Tu ara wmida werili? es wigni

caSi veravin gaxsna, anu angelozebma, veravin dedamiwa-

ze, anu xorcSi myofma adamianebma, veravin qvesknelSi,

anu verc sxeulebidan gasulma sulebma, _ uflis garda

CvenTvis wmida werilis saidumloebebis gaxsna veravin

SeZlo. rodesac naTqvamia, qvesknelSi Rirseuli vera-

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vin moiZebna, wigni rom gaexsna, RmrTis sityvis sawina-

aRmdegos verafers vxedav imaSi, rom jojoxeTi miwis

qveS vigulsixmoT.

petre: miTxari, geTayva, geeniis cecxli erTia, Tu

ramdeni codvac arsebobs, imdeni sxvadasxvagvari cec-

xlia gamzadebuli?

Tavi ormocdamesame

jojoxeTis cecxli erTia, Tu _ sxvadasxvagvari?

grigoli: Tumca geeniis cecxli erTia, magram yvela

codvils erTnairad ar dawvavs. iq sasjels TiToeuli

codvis xarisxis mixedviT iseve moiwevs, rogorc am-

qveynad erTi mzis qveS vcxovrobT, magram mis siTbos

yvela erTnairad ar SeigrZnobs: erTni ufro metad Tbe-

bian, sxvebi _ naklebad. asevea iqac: erTsa da imave cec-

xlSi yvelasTvis tanjvis erTnairi xarisxi ar aris

gamzadebuli. rasac aq sxeulTa gansxvaveba iwvevs, iq

codvaTa gansxvaveba warmoSobs: Tumca cecxli yvela

codvilisTvis erTia, magram TiToeul maTgans erTnai-

rad ar dawvavs.

petre: nuTu isini, vinc cecxlSi iqneba Cagdebuli,

maradiulad daiwvebian,?

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Tavi ormocdameoTxe

cecxlovan geeniaSi Cagdebuli codvilebi

maradiulad daiwvebian?

grigoli: WeSmaritad cxadia da ueWveli, rom ro-

gorc marTalTa netareba iqneba dausrulebeli, aseve

ukeTurTa tanjvas ar eqneba dasasruli, radgan Tavad

WeSmariteba brZanebs: `da warviden eseni satanjvelsa

saukunesa, xolo marTalni _ cxorebasa saukunesa~

(maT. 25, 46).

petre: xom SeiZleba viRacam Tqvas: `RmerTi codvi-

lebs maradiuli satanjveliT mxolod imitom emuqreba,

rom codvis Cadenisagan SeaCeros~?

grigoli: Tuki sicruea is, riTic RmerTi codvilebs

usjuloebisagan gansaSoreblad emuqreba, maSin isic

sicruea, rac man aRgviTqva imisTvis, rom siwmide Seviy-

varoT, magram ugunuris garda amis Tqmas vin gabedavs?

da Tuki is imiT gvemuqreba, rasac ar aRasrulebs, maSin

manamde, vidre mas mowyaled vaRiarebT, matyuara unda

vuwodoT (rac gamosaTqmeladac ki saSinelia).

petre: minda vicode, marTlmsajulebas ramdenad

eTanxmeba is, rom sasruli danaSaulisaTvis usasru-

lod unda itanjon?

grigoli: eWvi samarTliani iqneboda, ganrisxebuli

msajuli ara adamianTa gulebs, aramed mxolod saqmeebs

rom ganixilavdes. usjuloTa codvebi imitom Sewyda,

rom maTi sicocxle dasrulda. isini isurvebdnen, Se-

saZlebeli rom yofiliyo, usasrulod ecxovraT, raTa

usasrulod codvaSi yofiliyvnen. vinc codvebs sicoc-

xleSi arasodes ganSorebia, isini codvaSi mudmivad

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darCenis survils amJRavneben. amdenad, udidesi msaju-

lis mxriv samarTlianobaa, rom isini, vinc am cxovreba-

Si codvebisgan ganSoreba arasodes isurva, maradiulad

daitanjon.

petre: magram marTali batoni gadaWarbebuli simkac-

riT arc erT erTgul monas ar sjis, mzakvari monis ce-

masac mxolod imisTvis brZanebs, rom misi mankierebani

gamoasworos: mas gamosworebis imediT urtyamen. Tuki

geeniis cecxlSi Cagdebuli usjuloni ar gamosworde-

bian, maSin maT maradiul dawvas ra mizani aqvs?

grigoli: yovlisSemZle RmerTi, rogorc mowyale,

marTal adamianebs sisastikis gareSe marTavs; magram,

rogorc marTlmsajuli, usjuloTa maradiul tanjvas

ar Sewyvets. usjuloni, romelTac maradiuli satan-

jveli ganesazRvraT, Tumca TavianTi usjuloebisaTvis

isjebian, cecxlSi sxva mizniTac daiwvebian. yoveli

marTali maTTvis RmerTis mier miniWebul netarebasac

ixilavs da codvilTa tanjvasac, rasac Tavi daaRwies.

rac ufro cxadad dainaxaven codvebis gamo aRZrul ma-

radiul satanjvels, romelsac RmerTis SewevniT

sZlies, miT metad SeigrZnoben, rom saRmrTo madlis ma-

radiuli movaleni arian.

petre: adamianebi, romlebic mtrebs cecxlSi xedaven

da maTTvis ar loculoben, wmindanebad rogor SegviZ-

lia CavTvaloT, radgan naTqvamia: `ulocevdiT maT, ro-

melni gmZlavrobden Tquen~ (maT. 5, 44)?

grigoli: mtrebisTvis maSin loculoben, rodesac

maTi gulebis moqceva nayofieri sinanulisken SesaZle-

belia da am moqceviT isini gadarCebian, radgan mtris-

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Tvis sxva ra unda iTxovo, Tu ara is, rac mociqulma

gvamcno: `mo-xolo Tu-sces maT ufalman sinanuli mec-

nierebad WeSmaritebisa, da ganifrTxian safrxisa mis-

gan eSmakisa monadirebulTa maT mis mier nebisaebr misi-

sa~ (2 tim. 2, 25-26)? codvilTaTvis maSin rogorRa un-

da vilocoT, rodesac maT aranairad ar ZaluZT Tavian-

Ti usjuloeba marTali saqmeebiT Secvalon? e.i. mizezi,

Tu ratom ar iloceben maradiul satanjvelSi myofi

adamianebisTvis, igive iqneba, ris gamoc amJamad ar lo-

culoben eSmakisa da misi angelozebisaTvis, romelTac

maradiuli tanjva aqvT misjili. ra aris amJamadac imis

mizezi, rom wmindanebi ar loculoben urwmunoebasa da

usjuloebaSi aRsrulebulTaTvis, Tu ara is, rom Seic-

nes isini, rogorc maradiuli tanjviT dasjilni da

amitom ar surT amao locva aRavlinon marTali msaju-

lis winaSe? Tuki marTlebi TavianT sicocxleSive, ro-

desac Tavs sasjelis Rirsad aRiareben, gardacvlil da

gankiTxul usjuloebs ar TanaugrZnoben, uRmerToTa

tanjvas miT ufro mkacrad maSin ganixilaven, rodesac,

yovelgvari xorcieli vnebisagan gaTavisuflebulni,

siwmindes kidev ufro mtkiced da sisavsiT SeiTviseben.

yovladmarTali msajulis mier gamotanili ganaCeni maT

suls imdenad eTanxmeba, rom nebas ar aZlevs misi mara-

diuli simarTlisagan gansxvavdebodes maTi Sexedule-

bani.

petre: cxadi dasabuTebis winaaRmdeg verafers vit-

yvi, magram Cems gonebas Semdegi kiTxva ipyrobs: suls

ukvdavi ratom ewodeba, rodesac cnobilia, rom mas ma-

radiul cecxlSi sikvdili aqvs misjili?

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Tavi ormocdamexuTe

ratom ewodeba suls ukvdavi, rodesac cnobilia,

rom mas sikvdili aqvs misjili?

grigoli: rogorc sityvas `sicocxle~ aqvs ori

mniSvneloba, aseve ori mniSvneloba aqvs sityvas `sik-

vdili~. sxva saqmea, rodesac saRmrTod vcxovrobT da

sxva aris, rodesac mxolod rogorc qmnilebani an am-

qveynad Sobilni vcxovrobT, anu sxva aris icxovro ne-

tarebiT da sxva aris mxolod iarsebo. amitom suls Se-

iZleba vuwodoT mokvdavic da ukvdavic. suli mokvdavia,

rodesac kargavs netarebiT cxovrebas; ukvdavia imi-

tom, rom yofierebas arasodes kargavs, misi bunebis-

Tvis damaxasiaTebel sicocxles ver ganudgeba. Tuki mas

maradiuli sikvdili miesjeba, sasjels daqvemdebare-

buli netar cxovrebas kargavs, magram yofierebas ar

kargavs. aqedan gamomdinare, is sikvdils sikvdilis ga-

reSe ganicdis, moklebas _ moklebis gareSe, aRsasruls

_ aRsasrulis gareSe, raTa misi sikvdilic ukvdavi

iyos da moklebac _ mouklebeli da dasasruli _ daus-

rulebeli.

petre: vis ar SeaSinebs sikvdilis Jams aseTi gamouc-

nobi msjavri, rogoric ginda iyos misi saqmeebi, rode-

sac, Tumca icis, rasac akeTebs, magram ar icis, misi saq-

meebi rogori zedmiwevniT gairCeva?

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Tavi ormocdameeqvse

wmida moRvawe, romelic sikvdilis Jams Zrwoda

grigoli: marTlac asea, petre, rogorc Sen ambob,

magram momakvdavi marTlis suls TviT es SiSi ukve gan-

wmends, rogorc amas erTi wmida moRvawis Sesaxeb mo-

naTxrobi adasturebs, romelic orives araerTxel

gvsmenia. is Zrwoda sikvdilis Jams, magram aRsrulebis

Semdeg mowafeebs TeTrebSi mosili eCvena da amiT aCvena,

rom naTelSi iqna miRebuli.

Tavi ormocdameSvide

zogierTs sikvdilis SiSis dasaZlevad gamocxade-

bani ganamtkicebs; monazonTa _ antonis, merulasa

da ioanes Sesaxeb

yovlisSemZle RmerTi mSfoTvare gonebas zogjer ga-

mocxadebebiT winaswar ganamtkicebs, raTa sikvdilis

ar eSinodes. monasterSi CemTan erTad Zma antoni cxov-

robda. igi zeciuri mamulis netarebebisadmi swrafvas

yovel cismare dRes uxvad daRvrili cremliT gamoxa-

tavda. man wmida werili gansakuTrebuli mondomebiT da

udidesi wyurviliT Seiswavla da masSi eZiebda ara Se-

samecnebel sagnebs, aramed _ cremls gulis Semusvri-

lebisaTvis, raTa cremliT aRZruli goneba anTebuliyo

da miwiers rom datovebda, mWvretelobiT zeciur ma-

mulSi afreniliyo. erTxel antons Rameul CvenebaSi

euwya: `moemzade da RmerTis brZanebiT gzas gaudeqi~.

rodesac man Tqva, rom gasamgzavreblad mzad ar aris,

pasuxad maSinve gaigona: `Tuki codvebs gulisxmob, isi-

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ni Segendo~. magram pirveli Setyobinebis Semdeg is ma-

inc Zlier SiSs ganicdida. momdevno RamiT kvlav igive

emcno. xuTi dRis Semdeg is avad gaxda da gardaicvala

Zmebis TandaswrebiT, romlebic dastirodnen da misTvis

loculobdnen.

imave monasterSi sxva Zma, merulac cxovrobda; is

daucxromelad tiroda da loculobda, mis bageTagan

amomavali fsalmunTa galoba mxolod sakvebis miRebisa

da Zilis dros wydeboda. mas amgvari Rameuli Cveneba

hqonda: zecidan mis Tavze TeTri yvavilebiT mownuli

gvirgvini daeSva. amis Semdeg male dasneulda da mxia-

ruli suliT mSvidad aResrula. ToTxmeti dRis Semdeg,

rodesac monastris amJamindelma winamZRvarma, petrem,

misi saflavis siaxloves TavisTvis saflavis gaWra moi-

surva, merulas saflavidan imgvari keTilsurneleba

SeigrZno, TiTqos iq yvela yvavilis surneleba Seekri-

boT. aqedan cxadi gaxda, rom misi Rameuli Cveneba WeSma-

riti iyo.

imave monasterSi sxva, yrma monazoni ioanec iyo, ro-

melsac bunebisgan mravali sikeTe hqonda mimadlebuli.

is Tavis asaks aRemateboda gansjis unariT, simdabliT,

kargi qceviTa da moRvaweobiT. rodesac ioane daavadda

da sikvdilis piras aRmoCnda, Rameul CvenebaSi vinme be-

ri eCvena, wkepla dahkra da uTxra: `wamodeqi, am sneu-

lebiT ar mokvdebi, magram moemzade, imitom, rom aq

didxans aRar iRvaweb~. amis Semdeg is maleve gamojan-

mrTelda, imis miuxedavad, rom eqimebs misi gadarCenis

imedi aRar hqondaT. Tavisi gamocxadebis Sesaxeb man

sxvebsac uambo da Tavisi asakisTvis Seufereblad, ro-

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gorc ukve aRvniSne, RmerTs kidev ori weli emsaxura.

am ambamde sami wliT adre erTi Zma aResrula da is mo-

nastris sasaflaoze davkrZaleT. rodesac sasaflaodan

gamovediT, ioane, rogorc Semdeg gafiTrebuli da aT-

rTolebuli TviTon gviambobda, iq darCa da micvale-

bulma saflavidan mouxmo. am Zaxilma mas moaxloebuli

aRsasruli amcno. aTi dRis Semdeg is avadmyofobiT ga-

Tanguli xorcis sakrvelTagan gaTavisuflda.

petre: minda vicode, Tvalyuri unda vadevno imas,

rac Rameul CvenebaSi warmomidgeba?

Tavi ormocdamerve

Tvalyuri unda vadevnoT Tu ara sizmrebs da ram-

dengvari sizmari arsebobs?

grigoli: gmarTebs icode, petre, rom sulSi sizmre-

uli Cvenebani eqvsi mizeziT Semodian. zogjer sizmari

kuWis sisavsis gamo warmoiSoba, zogjer, piriqiT, misi

sicarielis gamo; zogjer _ eSmakis cdunebiT, zogjer

_ zraxvebiT (fiqrebiT) da cdunebiT erTdroulad;

zogjer _ gamocxadebiT, zogjer _ gulisTqmiTa da ga-

mocxadebiT erTdroulad. pirveli ori saxis sizmreu-

li Cvenebani gamogvicdia, xolo danarCeni oTxi saxis

magaliTebs wmida werili gvaZlevs. sizmreuli Cvenebani

xSirad eSmakis sacduri rom ar iyos, maSin brZenkaci

arasodes migviTiTebda amaze sityvebiT: `radgan mra-

valni acdunes sizmrebma da daecnen misi moimedeni~

(zir. 34, 7). agreTve: `nu ijadoqrebT da nu imkiTxavebT

sizmrebiT~ (lev. 19, 26). am sityvebiT cxadad Cans, rom

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unda veridoT sizmrebiT marCielobas. sizmrebi zogjer

zraxvebisa da sacdurisagan erTdroulad rom ar modi-

odes, brZeni ar gvetyoda: `rogorc mravladaa sizmarSi

ambebi, ise mravalsityvaa ugunuris naubari~ (ekl. 5, 2).

zogjer sizmari idumali gamocxadebisagan rom ar iSve-

bodes, maSin iosebi Tavis upiratesobas Zmebis winaSe

sizmarSi ver ixilavda (dab. 37); arc angelozi amcnob-

da ZilSi mariamis damwindvels yrmasTan erTad egvipte-

Si gaqceuliyo (maT. 2). agreTve, sizmari zogjer zrax-

vebisa da gamocxadebis erTobiT rom ar iSvebodes, maSin

winaswarmetyveli danieli, nabuqodonosoris sizmarze

msjelobisas, ar miuTiTebda, rom misi safuZveli fiq-

rebi iyo: `guliszraxvani Senni sawolsa Sensa zeda

aRvides, raY jer-ars qmnad amaTsa Semdgomad da

gamomcxadebelman saidumloTaman mauwyna me, romelTaY

jer-ars qmnaY~ (dan. 2, 29). da iqve: `Sen, mefe, hxedevd,

da, aha, xati erTi didi. da xati igi da Sesaxedavi misi

saSinel mdgomare winaSe pirsa Sensa~ (dan. 2, 31). amgva-

rad, rodesac danieli sizmars krZalviT ganixilavs da

ganmartavs, Tu romeli zraxvidan iSva, cxadad gviCve-

nebs, rom xSirad sizmari zraxvebidan da gamocxadebe-

bidan erTdroulad momdinareobs. Tuki sizmrebi amgva-

rad gansxvavdebian, maSin cxadia, miT ufro naklebad

unda vendoT maT, rac ufro Zneli Sesacnobia, Tu saidan

momdinareoben. wmindanebi sacdursa da gamocxadebas

Soris gansxvavebas erTgvarad Sinaganad SeigrZnoben,

ganasxvaveben Cvenebis xmasa da saxes, gulisxmayofen ke-

Tili sulisgan ra eZlevaT da romelia eSmakis sacdu-

ri. Tuki goneba sizmrebis mimarT frTxili ar iqneba,

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maSin macduri sulis mier mraval ocnebaSi Caefloba:

is, rogorc wesi, mraval simarTles winaswarmetyve-

lebs, rom Semdeg suli sicruiT moicvas.

Tavi ormocdamecxre

adamiani, romelsac sizmarSi xangrZlivi sicocxle

aRuTqves, magram mokle xanSi aResrula

arcTu didi xnis win Cvens erT Tanamoqalaqes, rome-

lic sizmrebs endoboda, amgvari ram SeemTxva. mas siz-

marSi xangrZlivi sicocxle aRuTqves. rodesac man di-

di simdidre moagrova, rom xangrZlivi cxovreba gaeta-

rebina, moulodnelad gardaicvala da mTeli mamuli xe-

luxlebeli darCa, xolo Tan erTi keTili saqmec ver

waiyola.

Tavi ormocdameaTe

sasargebloa Tu ara micvalebulis sulisTvis sxe-

ulis taZarSi dakrZalva?

petre: maxsovs, vinc iyo is. magram is ganvixiloT,

razec saubari daviwyeT. micvalebulis sulisTvis sar-

geblobis momtania Tu ara sxeulis taZarSi dakrZalva?

grigoli: taZarSi dakrZalva im micvalebulebisTvis

aris sasargeblo, romlebic didi codvebiT damZimebu-

li ar arian. maTi axloblebi yoveldRiurad am wmida

adgilebSi (taZrebSi) ikribebian da gardacvlilTa

saflavebis xilvisas ixseneben maT, maTTvis RmerTs

evedrebian. piriqiT, Tuki taZarSi iseT adamians dak-

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rZalaven, romelsac suli momakvdinebeli codvebiT

aqvs damZimebuli, mas araTu codvebi ar Seendoba, ara-

med umetesad daisjeba. amis cxadad saCveneblad, axla-

xan momxdar ambavs mokled giambob.

Tavi ormocdameTerTmete

wmida lavrentis taZarSi dakrZaluli enkratisi,

romelic taZris mcvels gamocxadebaSi naxevrad

damwvari sxeuliT eCvena

Rirseuli moRvawe, portuenis episkoposi feliqsi,

romelic sabinis olqSi daibada da aRizarda, erTi en-

kratisis Sesaxeb gviambobda, romelic Tumca TavSekave-

biT cxovrobda, magram kadnierebisa da amaodmetyvele-

bisagan enas ar ikrZalavda. is gardaicvala da taZarSi

dakrZales. imave RamiT taZris mcvelma gamocxadebaSi

ixila, rom is sakurTxevelTan miiyvanes da orad gaW-

res, romelTagan erTi nawili cecxlSi daiwva, xolo

meore uvnebeli darCa. diliT man es xilva Zmebs uambo

da is adgili aCvena, sadac enkratisi cecxlSi daiwva.

sakurTxevlis win, marmariloze cecxlis kvali ise iyo

darCenili, TiTqos es dedakaci iq nivTier cecxls da-

ewvas. amgvarma xilvam cxadyo, rom wmida adgili sik-

vdilis Semdeg sasjelisgan Tavis daxsnaSi ar Seeweva

imas, visac codvebi ar Seendo.

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Tavi ormocdameTormete

patric valerianes dakrZalva

CvenTvis cnobilia, Tu rogori RirsebiTa da simar-

TliT gamoirCeva saxelganTqmuli mosagre ioane, pre-

feqtebis nacvali romSi. is patric valerianes Sesaxeb

miambobda, romelic qalaq briksSi gardaicvala. am qa-

laqis episkoposma safasuri aiRo da mis dasakrZalad

taZarSi adgili gamoyo. valeriane sicocxlis bolomde

codvil da uzneo cxovrebas eweoda da codvebis gamos-

worebaze ar zrunavda. dakrZalvis wina RamiT netari

mowame favstiane, romlis taZarSi patricis dakrZal-

vas apirebdnen, taZris mcvels warmoudga da uTxra:

`wadi da uTxari episkoposs, is myrali gvami, romelic

aq daasvena, gadaagdos; Tuki amas ar aRasrulebs, ocda-

aT dReSi TviTon mokvdeba~. mcvels episkoposisTvis

amis Sesaxeb meore gamocxadebis Semdegac ki SeeSinda

eTqva. ocdameaTe dRes episkoposi, romelic sruliad

janmrTeli da saRsalamaTi iyo, RamiT dasaZineblad da-

wolili moulodnelad aResrula.

Tavi ormocdamecamete

valentinis sxeulis Sesaxeb, romelic dakrZalvis

Semdeg taZridan gamotanil iqna

amJamadac cocxlebi arian Rirsi Zma, luniis episko-

posi benanti da saxelovani kaci, ukeTilSobilesi da

ndobis Rirsi liberiosi. isini genuaSi momxdar isto-

rias gviambobdnen, romelsac, maTi TqmiT, maTi msaxure-

bi Seeswrnen. iq, rogorc isini amboben, mediolanis ek-

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lesiis advokati valentini aResrula. is qarafSuta da

yovelgvar vnebas damonebuli adamiani iyo. misi sxeuli

netari mowamis, siras taZarSi dakrZales. SuaRamisas

taZarSi xmebi gaisma, TiTqos viRacas agdebdnen. taZris

mcvelebma am xmebis gagonebaze moirbines da ori sazare-

li suli ixiles, romlebic fexebSekrul valentins ga-

reT miaTrevdnen. is xmamaRla yviroda da ibrZoda. SeSi-

nebuli mcvelebi TavianT adgilebze dabrundnen. diliT

kubo gaxsnes da iq misi cxedari aRar daxvdaT. mas Zebna

eklesiis siaxloves dauwyes da sxva kuboSi miagnes; igi

iseve iyo fexebSekruli, rogorc eSmakebma gaaTries.

aqedan iswavle, petre, rom Tuki codvebiT damZimebuli

adamianebi moyvasT aiZuleben, wmida adgilze dakrZa-

lon, damatebiT kadnierebisTvisac daisjebian. maT wmi-

da adgilebi ar ganwmends, ugunuri ampartavneba ki uf-

ro met sasjels moutans.

Tavi ormocdameToTxmete

taZarSi dakrZaluli mRebavis sxeuli iq veRar

naxes

aq mcxovrebi mravali mRebavi amowmebs imas, rac am

qalaqSi moxda. erTi daxelovnebuli mRebavi gardaicva-

la da colma netari mowamis, ianuariusis taZarSi dak-

rZala, wmida lavrentis karibWis siaxloves. momdevno

RamiT taZris mcvelma kubodan misi Zaxili gaigona:

`viwvi, viwvi~. mcvels yvirili didxans esmoda da Sem-

deg micvalebulis cols Seatyobina. man moisurva enaxa,

rogor mdgomareobaSi iyo micvalebulis sxeuli, rom-

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lis suli amgvarad RaRadebda da qmris TanamSromlebi

sanaxavad gagzavna. maT kubo gaxsnes da carieli naxes,

TiTqos micvalebuli iq arc CaesvenebinoT, Tumca tan-

sacmeli xeluxlebeli iyo da im ambis dasamowmeblad

dRemde taZarSi inaxeba. aqedan SegviZlia mivxvdeT, ro-

gor sasjels daeqvemdebara is, Tuki misi sxeulic ki

taZridan ganagdes. amgvarad, wmida adgilebs uRirsad

dakrZalulTaTvis ra sargebeli aqvs, Tuki maTi sxeu-

lebi, RmrTis nebiT, iqidan ganidevneba?

Tavi ormocdameTxuTmete

ram SeiZleba moutanos sargebloba micvalebulTa

sulebs? centumceleli presviterisa da monazon

iustis sulis Sesaxeb

petre: ram SeiZleba moutanos sargebloba micvale-

bulTa sulebs?

grigoli: Tuki Cadenili codvebi mZime araa da sik-

vdilis Semdeg SeiZleba Seendos, suls macxovnebeli

msxverplSewirva sikvdilis Semdegac didad Seeweva;1

zogjer micvalebulTa sulebi amas Tavad iTxoven. es am-

bavi zemoT xsenebulma episkoposma feliqsma erTi metad

Rirseuli presviterisgan gaigo, romelic ori wlis

win jer kidev cocxali iyo, qalaq centumcelis siax-

loves cxovrobda da tavraniaSi mdebare netari ioanes

taZris winamZRvari iyo. presviters xorcieli sneule-

bis gamo Cvevad hqonda Tbil wyaroSi im adgilze ganba-

1 aqac da SemdgomSi igulisxmeba micvalebulTa moxsenieba saR-

mrTo liturgiaze.

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niliyo, sadac yvelaze meti orTqli amodis. erTxel iq

Sesuls, erTi ucxo kaci daxvda, romelic mzad iyo mom-

saxureboda: ucnobma fexze fexsacmeli gaxada, samosi

CamoarTva, sabanelidan gamosvlisas pirsaxoci miawoda

da yovelgvar samsaxurs sruli mzadyofniT asrulebda.

amis Semdeg amgvari ram xSirad xdeboda. erTxel pres-

viterma sabanelSi wasvlis win ifiqra: `im adamianis mi-

marT, romelic sabanelSi ase gulmodgined memsaxureba,

mmarTebs umaduroba ar gamoviCino: ZRvnad raime unda

mivarTva~. man ori sefiskveri aiRo da wavida. iq misul-

ma is adamiani maSinve ipova da isic Cveulebisamebr emsa-

xura. ganbanvis Semdeg wasvla rom daapira, man im kacs

sefiskverebi miarTva, Tan sTxova mirTmeuli ZRveni ke-

TilganwyobiT da siyvaruliT mieRo. ucnobma presvi-

ters cremliT miugo: `mamao, ratom maZlev? es wmida

puria, me ki misi Wama ar SemiZlia. Sen winaSe am adgile-

bis yofil mepatrones xedav. Cemi codvebis gamo sikvdi-

lis Semdeg aq samsaxuri maqvs misjili. Tuki Cemi dasa-

Cuqreba gsurs, es sefiskverebi yovlisSemZle RmerTs

Cemi codvebisaTvis msxverplad Seswire. rodesac mox-

val da aq veRar mixilav, icode, RmerTma Seni locva Se-

ismina~. am sityvebze is uxilavi gaxda, riTic gamoCnda,

rom suli iyo. presviteri misTvis mTeli kvira crem-

liT loculobda, macxovnebel msxverpls yoveldRiu-

rad swiravda da sabanelSi misulma is kaci iq veRar na-

xa. aqedan Cans, sulebisTvis usisxlo msxverplis Se-

wirva ramdenad sasargebloa, raki amas cocxalTagan

TviTon sulebi iTxoven da niSnebs miuTiTeben, romli-

Tac maTi codvebis Sendobas SevicnobT.

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vfiqrob, arc imis Sesaxeb unda davdumde, rac samio-

de wlis win Cems monasterSi moxda. erTma monazonma,

saxelad iustma, samkurnalo xelovneba kargad icoda.

is memsaxureboda, rodesac monasterSi vcxovrobdi da

sneulebisas yuradRebiT mmkurnalobda. rodesac Tavad

daavadda da sikvdilis piras aRmoCnda, mas RviZli Zma,

kopiozi emsaxureboda, romelic amJamad sarCos eqimo-

biT iZens. rodesac iustma sikvdilis moaxloveba ig-

rZno, kopiozs uTxra, rom mas sami oqros moneta hqonda

damaluli. es ZmaTagan dafaruli ar darCa. maT gulmod-

gined moiZies da oqros monetebi wamlebSi aRmoaCines.

rodesac Zmis codvis Sesaxeb macnobes, romelic CvenTan

erTad cxovrobda, es ambavi gulgrilad ver gadavitane,

imitom, rom Cvens monasterSi mudam wesad iyo, Zmebs

yvelaferi saziaro hqonodaT da sakuTrad raimes qona

ekrZalebodaT. damwuxrebuli vfiqrobdi, rogor mov-

qceuliyavi: Zmis codvaTa SendobisaTvis meloca, Tu da-

narCeni ZmebisTvis simkacris magaliTi meCvenebina? Cems

mosaydre preciozs movuxme da vuTxari: `wadi da Zmebs

ubrZane, momakvdavTan arc erTi maTgani ar mivides, rom

aravis bageTagan manugeSebeli sityva ar gaigonos; ro-

desac sikvdilis moaxloebisas Zmebs mouxmobs, maSin

RviZlma Zmam uTxras, rom Zmebma gadamaluli oqros mo-

netebis gamo miatoves, raTa sinanulma misi suli Tun-

dac sikvdilis Jams moicvas da mis mier Cadenili codvi-

sagan ganwmindos. rodesac gardaicvleba, saZmo sasaf-

laoze ar dakrZaloT, aramed nagavsayrelze ormo

amoTxareT, misi sxeuli Sig CaagdeT, misi oqros mone-

tebi zed daadeT da erTxmad uTxariT: `vecxli ege Seni

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SenTanave iyavn warsawymedelad Senda~ (saqme 8, 20) da

Semdeg damarxeT~. amiT orgvari sargeblobis motana

msurda: momakvdavisTvisac da cocxlad darCenilTaTvi-

sac, raTa amgvar mware sikvdils momakvdavi codvisagan

ganewminda, xolo Zmebi angarebisTvis amgvar sasjels

msgavs codvaSi Cavardnisagan daecva. asec moxda. rode-

sac monazonma sikvdilis moaxloveba igrZno, Zmebs Se-

sabralisad uxmobda, raTa maTi locva gamoeTxova, mag-

ram maT masTan misvla da saubari ar surdaT. maSin RviZ-

lma Zmam auxsna, ZmaTagan mitovebuli ratom iyo. man

codvis gamo maSinve mwared amoigmina da am dros, gul-

Semusvrili aResrula. Semdeg ise dakrZales, rogorc

vubrZane. misi amgvari sasjeliT SeSinebulma Zmebma,

sxvadasxva umniSvnelo nivTebis gamotana daiwyes, ro-

melTa qona nebadarTuli iyo. maT eSinodaT raime iseTi

ar hqonodaT, risTvisac daisjebodnen. misi gardacva-

lebidan ocdaaTi dRis Semdeg gardacvlili Zmis gamo

didma mwuxarebam momicva, misi sasjelis Sesaxeb vfiq-

robdi da saSualebas veZebdi, rom satanjvelisgan gamo-

mexsna. kvlav igive preciozi movixme da mwuxarebiT

vuTxari: `Cveni gardacvlili Zma didi xania cecxlSi

itanjeba. mis mimarT siyvaruli gamoviCinoT da Zalisa-

ebr vecadoT satanjvelisgan gamovixsnaT. wadi da dRei-

dan ocdaaTi dRis manZilze zedized misTvis msxver-

plSewirva aRasrule. dRe ar gamotovo ise, rom mis ga-

mosaxsnelad macxovnebeli msxverpli ar Seswiro~. is

maSinve wavida da brZanebis asruleba daiwyo. sxva saqme-

ebze zrunvis gamo ganvlili dReebi ar dagviTvlia. erT

Rames gardacvlili RviZl Zmas, kopiozs, sizmarSi ga-

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moecxada. kopiozma hkiTxa: `rogor xar, Zmao?~ micva-

lebulma miugo: `aqamde cudad viyavi, magram axla ukve

kargad var, imitom, rom dRes veziare~. kopiozma Zmebs

amis Sesaxeb dauyovnebliv mouTxro. maT dReebi gadaT-

vales da aRmoCnda, rom im dRes misTvis msxverpli oc-

dameaTejer Sewires. kopiozma ar icoda, Zmebi micvale-

bulis sulis saxsnelad ras akeTebdnen da arc Zmebma

icodnen, kopiozs rogori Cveneba hqonda. xilvisa da

msxverplSewirvis amgvari TanxvdomiT cxadad gamoCnda,

rom macxovnebeli msxverplis meoxebiT micvalebuli

Zma tanjvisagan gamoxsnil iqna.

petre: sakvirvel da sanugeSo ambebs vismen.

Tavi ormocdameTeqvsmete

narnis episkopos kasis cxovreba da aRsasruli

grigoli: micvalebulTa sityvebi daviwyebas rom ar

mieces, maT cocxalTa saqmeebi mowmoben. narnis episko-

posi kasi, romelic Rirseul cxovrebas eweoda, RmerTs

usisxlo msxverpls yoveldRiurad swiravda da evqa-

ristiis aRsrulebisas cremls Rvrida. erTi Tavisi

presviteris xilvis saSualebiT mas Semdegi ram emcno:

`ise ganagrZe, rogorc iqm; igive aRasrule, rasac aRas-

ruleb; fexs nu daacadeb da xels nu daayeneb; mociqul-

Ta dResaswaulze CemTan iqnebi da jildos mogageb~.

Svidi wlis Tavze, wmida mociqulTa dResaswaulze, man

saRmrTo liturgia aRasrula, wmida saidumloebs ezia-

ra da amis Semdeg aResrula.

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Tavi ormocdameCvidmete

mtrebis mier datyvevebuli kaci, romelsac misTvis

aRsrulebuli msxverplSewirvis Semdeg borkilebi

dascvivda; mesaWe baraki, romelic xomaldis da-

Rupvisas usisxlo msxverplSewirvam ixsna

gavigeT agreTve, rom erTi adamiani mtrebma tyved Ca-

igdes da borkildadebuli hyavdaT. misi meuRle garkve-

ul dReebSi misTvis wirvas ukveTavda. didi xnis Semdeg

is dabrunda da cols uambo, rom zogjer igi borkile-

bisgan Tavisufldeboda. colma Seityo, rom es swored

is dReebi iyo, rodesac misTvis wirva aResruleboda.

amgvari ram sxva SemTxveviTac dasturdeba, romelic

Svidi wlis win moxda. sarwmuno da RmrTismoSiSi ada-

mianebi amJamadac amowmeben, rom panormis episkoposi

aRaToni Cemi netarxsenebuli winamorbedis brZanebiT

romSi gaemgzavra. gzaSi imdenad Zlieri qariSxali da-

atyda, rom zRvis Zlieri Relvis gamo gadarCenis imedi

aRar hqonda. xomaldis mesaWe, saxelad baraki, rome-

lic amJamad imave eklesiis klerikosia, xomaldis ukan

navs marTavda. Toki gawyda da is navTan erTad talRebSi

gauCinarda, xolo xomaldi, romelzec episkoposi imyo-

feboda, mravali xifaTis Semdeg talRebma kunZul us-

tikze gariya. sami dRis Semdeg episkoposma zRvaze navSi

myofi mesaWe dainaxa, is mkvdari egona da damwuxrebul-

ma gaakeTa is, rac micvalebuls yvelaze metad Seeweoda

_ brZana yovlisSemZle RmerTisTvis mis saxelze usis-

xlo msxverpli SeewiraT, romlis dasrulebis Semdeg

xomaldi moamzades da italiisken gacures. romis nav-

sadgurSi Sesulma episkoposma iq mesaWe ixila, rome-

lic daRupuli egona. moulodneli sixaruliT aRtace-

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bulma mesaWes hkiTxa, zRvaze amdeni xani aseTi saSiSro-

ebis pirispir rogor icxovra. mesaWem uambo, mRelvare

talRebSi naviT rogor dacuravda, rogor curavda mas-

Si, rodesac is wyliT ivseboda da rogor ijda navis

fskerze, rodesac mas talRebi abrunebdnen. Semdeg ki

Tanamimdevrulad uambo, saRmrTo gangebulebam rogor

ixsna, rodesac amgvarad gatarebuli ramdenime dRe-Ra-

mis Semdeg, SimSiliTa da SromiT sruliad dauZlurda.

is dRemde hyveba Semdegs: `talRebTan brZolaSi sru-

liad davuZlurdi; uecrad Tavi imdenad damimZimda,

rom veRar vgrZnobdi, meRviZa Tu meZina. da rodesac Su-

agul zRvaSi viyavi, viRac gamomecxada da SimSilis da-

saokeblad puri momawoda. SevWame Tu ara, myisve movmag-

rdi. Soriaxlos gemi micuravda, romelmac saSiSi qa-

riSxlisagan mixsna da napirze gamiyvana~. amis gagoneba-

ze episkoposma dRe hkiTxa, rodesac es moxda da aRmoC-

nda, rom mesaWe im dRes gadarCa, rodesac kunZul usti-

kis presviteri yovlisSemZle RmerTs misTvis usisxlo

msxverpls swiravda.

petre: es ambavi siciliaSi yofnisas mec gavige.

grigoli: mjera, rom cocxlebze, romelTac arafe-

ri ician, ase cxadad gamoxsna imitom aResruleba, rom

usisxlo msxverplis SemwirvelT da maT, vinc misi Zala

ar ician, uCvenos, micvalebulTa gamoxsnis saqmeSic

rogori sargeblobis motana SeuZlia, Tuki maTi codve-

bi misatevebelia. garda amisa, imis codnac gmarTebs,

rom wmida msxverplSewirvas sargebloba im micvale-

bulTaTvis moaqvs, romlebmac miwieri cxovrebiT daim-

saxures, rom sikvdilis Semdeg sxvebis mier amqveynad

maTTvis aRsrulebuli keTili saqmeebi SeeweodeT.

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Tavi ormocdameTvramete

macxovnebeli msxverplis Zala da saidumlo

mudam amgvarad unda vfiqrobdeT, rom bevrad usaf-

rTxoa sikeTe sicocxleSi TviTon aRvasruloT, vidre

gveimedebodes, rom mas sikvdilis Semdeg sxvisi xeliT

aRvasrulebT. ufro sanetaroa gavideT amqveynidan Ta-

visufalni, vidre Sekrulebma veZioT Tavisufleba. ami-

tom am soflis warmavalobas rac ufro cxadad vxe-

davT, miT ufro unda moviZuloT mTeli suliTa da gu-

liT, RmerTs yoveldRiurad msxverplad qristes wmida

xorcisa da sisxlis saidumlo da cremli SevwiroT,

radgan maradiuli warwymedisagan sulis cxoneba erTa-

derTs am msxverpls SeuZlia; is CvenTvis mxolodSobi-

li Zis sikvdils idumalad ganaaxlebs, romelic `aRdga

mkudreTiT, arRara mokudes, da sikudili mis zeda ar-

Rara uflebdes~ (rom. 6, 9). Tumca ukvdavi da uxrwne-

lia, wmida evqaristiis saidumloSi CvenTvis kvalad ik-

vleba. radgan evqaristiaSi mis xorcs viRebT, misi sxe-

uli adamianTa sacxovneblad ganiyofeba, xolo misi sis-

xli ukve ara usjuloTa xelebze gadmodis, aramed mor-

wmuneTa bageebSi Caedineba. gulisxmavyoT, rogoria sai-

dumloeba, romelic Cveni cxonebisaTvis mxolodSobili

Zis vnebas mudam gvagonebs. morwmuneTagan vis SeiZleba

eWvi Seeparos, rom TviT msxverplSewirvis Jams

mRvdlis RaRadze cani ganixsnebian, ieso qristes am sai-

dumlos angelozTa dasebi eswrebian, miwieri zeciers

uerTdeba da xilulTa da uxilavTa SeerTebiT didi er-

Toba iqmneba?

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Tavi ormocdamecxramete

gulis SemusvrilebisaTvis wmida saidumlos

Sewirvis Jams da gonebis sifxizlisaTvis ziarebis

Semdgom

am saidumlos aRsrulebisas aucilebelia, gulis Se-

musvrilebiT RmerTs Tavi msxverplad SevwiroT, uf-

lis vnebaTa saidumlos aRsrulebisas imis mimbaZvelni

viyoT, rasac aRvasrulebT. es saidumlo mxolod maSin

iqneba RmerTisTvis CvenTvis Sewiruli WeSmariti

msxverpli, rodesac Cvens Tavs vaqcevT msxverplad.

RmerTis wyalobiT wirvis Semdegac vecadoT, suli misi

ZaliTa da simtkiciT davicvaT, raTa Semdgom amaoebam

ar daauZluros, gulSi amao mediduroba ar Semogvepa-

ros da sulma daudevari qarafSutobiT ziarebis sarge-

beli ar dakargos. ana Rirsi gaxda mieRo is, rasac iT-

xovda, imitom, rom glovis Semdeg sulieri simtkice

daicva. masze naTqvamia: `da piri misi arRara mwuxare

iyo~ (1 mef. 1, 18). amitom RmerTs misi Txovna ar daviw-

yebia da saTxovari (Ze), romelic misTvis aseTi sasur-

veli iyo, ar moaklo.

Tavi mesamoce

sxvaTa codvebis mitevebisTvis, rom Cvenc

Segvendos Cveni codvebi

imisi codnac gmarTebs, rom codvaTa mitevebas mar-

Tlad mxolod is iTxovs, vinc Tavis winaaRmdeg Cadenil

codvebs miutevebs, radgan saxarebis mixedviT ZRveni

iqamde ar Seiwireba, vidre sulidan mtroba ar ganidev-

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neba: `ukueTu Seswirvide Sesawiravsa sakurTxevelsa

zeda da mun mogeÃsenos Sen, viTarmed ZmaÁ Seni gul-ZÂr

raÁme ars SenTÂs, dauteve Sesawiravi igi sakurTxevel-

sa mas da mived da daege pirvelad Zmasa Sensa da maSin

moved da Sewire Sesawiravi Seni~ (maT. 5, 23-24). aqedan

cxadia, rom Tuki SesawiravisTvis Secodeba migeteveba,

raoden mZimea mtrobis codva, romlis gamo TviT Sesa-

wiravi ar Seiwireba. amgvarad, moyvass suliT unda miv-

marToT, ragind Cvengan Sors imyofebodes da Cvens mi-

marT rogori ganawyenebulic ar unda iyos, suliT dav-

morCildeT, simdabliTa da keTilganwyobiT guli mo-

vulboT, raTa Semoqmedmac, romelmac Cveni codvebisaT-

vis Sesawiravi unda Seiwiros, Segvindos, rodesac Cveni

gulis amgvar keTilganwyobilebas ixilavs (maT. 18, 27).

Cven WeSmaritebis sityviT ganviswavleT, romelic

amowmebs, rom monas, romelsac batonis aTi aTasi ta-

lanti emarTa, sinanulis Semdeg misgan vali srulad

Seendo, magram imisTvis, rom Tanamonas asi dinari ar

Seundo, ebrZana mitevebuli vali srulad gadaexada.

aqedan cxadad Cans, Tuki Cvens winaaRmdeg SemcodeT mTe-

li guliT ar mivutevebT, maSin Cvenc kvlav mogvTxoven

imas, rac sinanulis Semdeg Segvendo. amgvarad, vidre

jer kidev dro gvaqvs, vidre msajuli sulgrZelebs da

Cveni gulebis gamomcdeli Cvens moqcevas elis, sastiki

guli cremliT movilboT da moyvasis mimarT keTilgan-

wyobilebiTa da siyvaruliT ganvewyoT. damajereblad

SemiZlia vTqva, rom sikvdilis Semdeg Cveni sulis sao-

xad macxovnebeli msxverplis Sewirva aucilebeli aRar

iqneba, Tuki sikvdilamde sakuTar Tavs RmrTisaTvis Se-

wirul msxverplad vaqcevT.

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wigni dasabeWdad momzadda

gamomcemloba `xarebaSi~

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