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Obama dvidas de que a Coreia do Nortepode fazer uma ogiva nuclear.By DAVID E. SANGER e MICHAEL R.GORDONPublicado em: 16 de abril de 2013

WASHINGTON - O presidente Obama disseem uma entrevista transmitida tera-feira queele no acreditava que a Coreia do Norteainda no tinha a capacidade de miniaturizaruma arma nuclear para caber em cima de ummssil, e ele disse que nada iria sacudi-lo apartir de uma estratgia de se recusar a"recompensar" o tipo de comportamentoprovocativo exibido por Kim J ong-un, o lderdo Norte.

Obama, falando em uma entrevista comSavannah Guthrie da NBC News que foi

gravado pouco antes dos atentados emBoston na segunda-feira, implicitamenterejeitou a concluso da Agncia deInteligncia de Defesa, que disse em umrelatrio no ms passado que tinha "confianamoderada" que o Norte j havia dominado atecnologia de construo de uma arma quepoderia caber em uma ogiva de mssil. Apsa concluso tornou-se pblico em umaaudincia no Congresso na quinta-feira, odiretor nacional de inteligncia, J ames R.

Clapper J r., emitiu uma declarao dizendoque a posio da agncia no refletem aviso de consenso dos 15 outras agncias deinteligncia.

Obama concordou. "Voc sabe, com base emnossas avaliaes de inteligncia atuais, noacho que eles tm essa capacidade" paracaber em cima de uma ogiva de um mssil,disse ele. "Mas, voc sabe, ns temos que tercerteza de que estamos a lidar com todas as

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ObamaDoubts That North Korea Can Make a Nuclear Warhead.

By DAVID E. SANGER and MICHAEL R. GORDONPublished: April 16, 2013

WASHINGTON President Obama said in an interview broadcastTuesday that he did not believe that North Korea yet had the ability tominiaturize a nuclear weapon to fit atop a missile, and he said nothingwould shake him from a strategy of refusing to reward thekind of provocative behavior exhibited by Kim Jong-un, the Northsleader.

Mr. Obama, speaking in an interview with Savannah Guthrie of NBC Newsthat was recorded just before the bombings in Boston on Monday,implicitly dismissed a conclusion by the Defense Intelligence Agency,which said in a report last m onth that it had moderateconfidence that the North already had mastered the technology ofbuilding a weapon that could fit into a missile warhead. After theconclusion became public at a Congressional hearing on Thursday, thedirector of national intelligence, James R. Clapper Jr., issued astatement saying that the agencys position did not reflect theconsensus view of the 15 other intelligence agencies.

Mr. Obama agreed. You know, based on our current intelligenceassessments, we do not think that they have that capacity to fit awarhead atop a missile, he said. But, you know, we have to make

sure that we are dealing with every contingency out there. Andthats why Ive repositioned missile defense systems toguard against any miscalculation on their part.

For the first time, Mr. Obama spoke about Mr. Kim, the Northsyoung leader, whose motivations have been scrutinized since the latestescalation of threats and tensions began.

Im not a psychiatrist, Mr. Obama said, suggestingthat he had to judge Mr. Kim by his actions rather than his words. Buthe added: This is the same kind of pattern that we saw his fatherengage in, and his grandfather before that. Since I came into office,

the one thing I was clear about was, were not going to rewardthis kind of provocative behavior. You dont get to bang your

your spoon on the table and somehow you get your way.

He also hinted at the administrations strategy, which seems to beone of letting Mr. Kim blow off steam before trying anew to engage withhim. Mr. Obama said he would anticipate that NorthKorea will probably make more provocative moves over the next several

weeks, but our hope is we can contain it and we can move into adifferent phase, in which they try to work through diplomatically someof these issues so they can get back on a path where theyreactually feeding their people.

Mr. Obamas statement seemed to hint at a dialogue, though he didnot say under what conditions it could take place, and he did not repeata promise he made during his first presidential campaign, in 2008, to

engage with the North unconditionally.

During his recent trip to Asia, Secretary of State John Kerry outlinedthe Obama administrations formal position that it will not opennegotiations with North Korea unless it takes tangible steps thatindicate it is willing to eventually abandon its nuclear weaponsprogram.

Fundamentally, the concept is theyre going to have to showsome kind of good faith, said M r. Kerry, who added that North

Korea would need to show its seriousness of purpose to go towardthe denuclearization.

Some experts say that given the tensions with North Korea, it is amistake for the Obama administration to insist on such preconditions.

Rather than setting preconditions, which means there will be nodialogue, our interests and those of our allies would be better servedby a serious, no-holds-barred diplomatic exploration of whether there isa peaceful path forward, said Joel S. Wit, a former State

Department official.

On Tuesday, the North Korean Foreign Ministry rejected the Obamaadministrations conditional overtures.

This is nothing but a crafty ploy, a ministry spokesmansaid in the Norths first reaction to Mr. Kerrys visit.

In a statement carried by the official Korean Central News Agency, thespokesman said genuine dialogue would be possible only when North Koreahas acquired nuclear deterrent enough to defuse the U.S. threatof nuclear war unless the U.S. rolls back its hostile policy and nuclearthreat and blackmail.

If the statement can be taken at face value, it would suggest that theNorth is not willing to engage in talks on the basis Mr. Kerry discussedwhen he was in the region: with an underlying agreement that the goal

was to denuclearize the Korean Peninsula. That was the basis of talks in1994, and again in 2005 and 2008. But Mr. Kim has rejected that

approach in recent months, saying that the world must simply accept theNorth as an established nuclear power. The United States has refused todo so, insisting that it will never accept the North as a nuclearweapons state.

Choe Sang-Hun contributed reporting from Seoul, South Korea.

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contingncias l fora. E por isso que eureposicionado sistemas de defesa antimsseispara proteger contra qualquer erro de clculopor parte deles. "

Pela primeira vez, Obama falou sobre o Sr.Kim, jovem lder do Norte, cujas motivaesforam analisados desde a ltima escalada deameaas e tenses comeou.

"Eu no sou um psiquiatra", disse Obama,sugerindo que ele teve que julgar o Sr. Kimpor suas aes ao invs de suas palavras.Mas ele acrescentou: "Este o mesmo tipode padro que viu seu pai participar, e seuav antes disso. Desde que tomou posse, anica coisa que foi claro sobre se, noestamos indo para recompensar esse tipo decomportamento provocador. Voc no

consegue bater o seu - sua colher na mesa ede alguma forma voc comea o seu caminho".

Ele tambm sugeriu a estratgia do governo,que parece ser um de deixar o Sr. Kimdesabafar antes de tentar de novo para seenvolver com ele. Obama disse que"antecipa", que "a Coria do Norteprovavelmente vai fazer mais movimentosprovocativos ao longo das prximas semanas,

mas a nossa esperana que podemoscont-lo e podemos passar a uma fasediferente, em que eles tentam trabalharatravs diplomaticamente algumas destasquestes para que eles possam receber devolta em um caminho onde eles esto, naverdade, para alimentar seu povo. "

A declarao de Obama parecia indicar umdilogo, embora ele no disse em quecondies poderia acontecer, e ele no

repetiu a promessa que ele fez durante suaprimeira campanha presidencial, em 2008,para se envolver com o Norteincondicionalmente.

Durante sua recente viagem para a sia, osecretrio de Estado J ohn Kerry delineadoposio formal da administrao Obama queno vai abrir negociaes com a Coreia doNorte, a menos que tome medidas concretas

ObamaDoubts That North Korea Can Make a Nuclear Warhead.By DAVID E. SANGER and MICHAEL R. GORDONPublished: April 16, 2013

WASHINGTON President Obama said in an interview broadcastTuesday that he did not believe that North Korea yet had the ability tominiaturize a nuclear weapon to fit atop a missile, and he said nothingwould shake him from a strategy of refusing to reward thekind of provocative behavior exhibited by Kim Jong-un, the Northsleader.

Mr. Obama, speaking in an interview with Savannah Guthrie of NBC Newsthat was recorded just before the bombings in Boston on Monday,implicitly dismissed a conclusion by the Defense Intelligence Agency,which said in a report last month that it had moderateconfidence that the North already had mastered the technology of

building a weapon that could fit into a missile warhead. After theconclusion became public at a Congressional hearing on Thursday, thedirector of national intelligence, James R. Clapper Jr., issued astatement saying that the agencys position did not reflect theconsensus view of the 15 other intelligence agencies.

Mr. Obama agreed. You know, based on our current intelligenceassessments, we do not think that they have that capacity to fit awarhead atop a missile, he said. But, you know, we have to makesure that we are dealing with every contingency out there. Andthats why Ive repositioned missile defense systems toguard against any miscalculation on their part.

For the first time, Mr. Obama spoke about Mr. Kim, the Northsyoung leader, whose motivations have been scrutinized since the latestescalation of threats and tensions began.

Im not a psychiatrist, Mr. Obama said, suggestingthat he had to judge Mr. Kim by his actions rather than his words. Buthe added: This is the same kind of pattern that we saw his fatherengage in, and his grandfather before that. Since I came into office,the one thing I was clear about was, were not going to rewardthis kind of provocative behavior. You dont get to bang your

your spoon on the table and somehow you get your way.

He also hinted at the administrations strategy, which seems to beone of letting Mr. Kim blow off steam before trying anew to engage withhim. Mr. Obama said he would anticipate that NorthKorea will probably make more provocative moves over the next severalweeks, but our hope is we can contain it and we can move into adifferent phase, in which they try to work through diplomatically someof these issues so they can get back on a path where theyreactually feeding their people.

Mr. Obamas statement seemed to hint at a dialogue, though he didnot say under what conditions it could take place, and he did not repeata promise he made during his first presidential campaign, in 2008, toengage with the North unconditionally.

During his recent trip to Asia, Secretary of State John Kerry outlinedthe Obama administrations formal position that it will not opennegotiations with North Korea unless it takes tangible steps thatindicate it is willing to eventually abandon its nuclear weaponsprogram.

Fundamentally, the concept is theyre going to have to showsome kind of good faith, said Mr. Kerry, who added that NorthKorea would need to show its seriousness of purpose to go towardthe denuclearization.

Some experts say that given the tensions with North Korea, it is amistake for the Obama administration to insist on such preconditions.

Rather than setting preconditions, which means there will be nodialogue, our interests and those of our allies would be better servedby a serious, no-holds-barred diplomatic exploration of whether there isa peaceful path forward, said Joel S. Wit, a former StateDepartment official.

On Tuesday, the North Korean Foreign Ministry rejected the Obamaadministrations conditional overtures.

This is nothing but a crafty ploy, a ministry spokesmansaid in the Norths first reaction to Mr. Kerrys visit.

In a statement carried by the official Korean Central News Agency, thespokesman said genuine dialogue would be possible only when North Koreahas acquired nuclear deterrent enough to defuse the U.S. threat

of nuclear war unless the U.S. rolls back its hostile policy and nuclearthreat and blackmail.

If the statement can be taken at face value, it would suggest that theNorth is not willing to engage in talks on the basis Mr. Kerry discussedwhen he was in the region: with an underlying agreement that the goalwas to denuclearize the Korean Peninsula. That was the basis of talks in1994, and again in 2005 and 2008. But Mr. Kim has rejected thatapproach in recent months, saying that the world must simply accept theNorth as an established nuclear power. The United States has refused todo so, insisting that it will never accept the North as a nuclearweapons state.

Choe Sang-Hun contributed reporting from Seoul, South Korea.


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que indicam que ele est disposto afinalmente abandonar seu programa de armasnucleares.

"Fundamentalmente, o conceito que elesvo ter que mostrar algum tipo de boa-f",disse Kerry, que acrescentou que a Coria doNorte precisa mostrar a sua "seriedade depropsito para ir em direo desnuclearizao".

Alguns especialistas dizem que, dadas astenses com a Coreia do Norte, que umerro para a administrao Obama insistir emtais condies.

"Em vez de definir condies prvias, o quesignifica que no haver dilogo, os nossosinteresses e os nossos aliados seria melhor

servido por uma grave, no-detm-barradasexplorao diplomtica de saber se existe umcaminho pacfico para a frente", disse J oel S.Wit, ex-funcionrio do Departamento deEstado.

Na tera-feira, norte-coreano Ministrio dosNegcios Estrangeiros rejeitou insinuaocondicionais da administrao Obama.

"Isso no nada, mas uma manobra astuta",

um porta-voz do ministrio disse em primeirareao do Norte a visita do Sr. Kerry.

Em um comunicado divulgado pela Agnciade Notcias Central Coreana oficial, o porta-voz disse que o dilogo genuno s seriapossvel quando a Coria do Norte "adquiriudissuaso nuclear suficiente para neutralizara ameaa de uma guerra nuclear dos EUA, amenos que os EUA reverte sua poltica hostile ameaa nuclear e chantagem ".

Se a declarao pode ser tomada pelo valorde face, que sugere que o Norte no estdisposta a se engajar em conversaes sobrea base Kerry discutida quando ele estava naregio: com um acordo subjacente de que oobjetivo era desnuclearizar a PennsulaCoreana . Essa foi a base das negociaes,em 1994, e novamente em 2005 e 2008. Maso Sr. Kim rejeitou essa abordagem nos


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ltimos meses, dizendo que o mundo devesimplesmente aceitar o Norte como umapotncia nuclear estabelecido. Os EstadosUnidos recusaram-se a faz-lo, insistindo queele nunca ir aceitar o Norte como um Estadocom armas nucleares.

Choe Sang-Hun, contribuiu com reportagemde Seul, na Coria.

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