8/14/2019 7548-7672
122/125
Jed Win: Thank you.
Ken Allard: General. Ken Allart. You mav have seena In
vestordev's New York Times by aMarine wlonel talking about the need
forpatience in fightinganinsurgeicy And he wasapparently trying to
warn both against, you know, people who were too pessimistic 85
well aspeople who we- overly optimistic
Can you basically et! us a littlebit aboutwhether or notwe are
continuing b In for (He longhaul here, or are we simply trying to
see how quickly we can cut and run?
BGHam: Wail. nobodvs nterested in cufflna and m i m . Pie nature
dthe insuroencies.particularly 20'century insurgencies, are such
that theyare king-term affairs. I think ifs sfsogenerally
understood that the military s one. Out not THE.way todoleat an
insurgency. So this isa very, so this has lo be a multi-tacemd
approach.
I h i i ~learly from the U S. mllftary. me ocus Is Increasmgq on
helping the Iraqis defeat M sinsurgency hemselves. And that is
becoming ncreasingly Ihe focusof our efforts. And continuallythe
commanders on thescene. General Casey and certainly General Abidd
from a theatermoective. are constantly waluatina theforces mat a r
e a - n t the OnerationaiconceDtS. hetactics thatare employed to
defeat he insuqencySo 1 . 1 think lhws Is-&arty. everybody
wants to defeat the nsurgency as quickly as canpos5ibty bedone. But
mere Is a reality' Defeatingan nsurgency can bea long-term
affairThere's no timeline It's help the Iraqis defeat the
insutpnto.
mn Allard Where therubber hits the mad is when we have w rotate
trocpa inof course Now jsthe percentage of Reservists o Active
troops about lhe same In this next rotation as it has bee"1 he
current one - about 40 percent of so?
The key. again, is not so much $5 t Active. a Reserve,but is it
right? And is it the right mixoffo- to meet me wmfnandors'
requirements in theater?
fewer an d fewer claims mat anybody n Iraq sees as credible,
because there s n& a governmentthere and people feel -generally
speaking - supportive of th e government and supportive of m
eprocess
But the onhf dace whora the insurgents ca ndaii a m oMantvwith
general public DerC&ion I Son he desire - m t w
~merstan&ie- that CotflUon fmcw I& Ana so the balancingm t
n a O-rg,ys - ha our eommanoers nave is to n0( have so many Coafrt
on forces to rave tooM u a ~ f w n c e 1.1weo it a a SJHO~M evel w
DC awe to help make sure mesa lraa Sec-iw
~ o rc e s an actuafry succeed
me country in large ormition type activity
1Y TIMES 7 6 6 9
