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Insurance Community University
Broker’s Fees
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There is no audio at this time.
This presentation is being recorded for your viewing pleasure at a future date.
The attendance and proctor forms are available under ‘Materials’ in the Webinar’s Console to the right.
The PowerPoint presentation is also available under ‘Materials’.
You will receive the course number for your state near the end of class.
Use the ‘chat’ window for questions on the content.
100% Participation in Polling Questions is required to receive credit for this class. Even if you do not intend to receive credit, please participate in the polls.
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Welcome to your Insurance Community University
All of you are currently on mute Un-mute your own system Telephone Option
Select Telephone on your screen Dial in the PIN number so that your number becomes active
Microphone and/or Speaker Option You can use this option if you have a headset that you use with
your computer
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Audio
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Participation & Chat Window You will receive information from the monitor via the
‘Chat’ window. Please locate window in the control panel
Q & A is welcomed during the presentation and at the end of the presentation
You will find the question box on your control panel Write your question in that box and send it to the presenter/organizer
The presenter will take those questions in the order submitted
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DOI Requirements When you see a slide with the hand up
symbol, touch the “hand” icon on your control panel Click ONCE only
If you do not raise your hand, the monitor will be in contact with you in the chat box
If you are in a group, the designated proctor is responsible to make certain you are all in attendance at all times
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= Hand is down
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Polling
Throughout the class we will be conducting periodic polls
We need 100% participation on the polls The polls are intended to check
participation but also to create discussion topics throughout the presentation
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Forms To Complete for CE
After class ends Return attendance form Proctors – return your form to email
address Email address is in chat window or in
email sent to you today
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DOI Requirements
We will file your hours with the DOI after the completion of this webinar and we have received the attendance form.
You have 48 hours to return the form You will be sent a Certificate of
Attendance/Completion by email. Please retain this for your records for five years.
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Internet Disruption
If the presenter looses internet connection STAY ON THE LINE
The administrators will communicate with you
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Internet Failure
If the internet fails and all participants are kicked off line by Go To Training or other source then the seminar will be terminated
You will receive instructions by email as to how we will proceed
This is a precautionary notice, only
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This class is being recorded
Available in the University This course is approved for CE in several
states. State approval numbers will be provided at the end of class.
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DisclaimerInsurance forms and endorsements vary based on
insurance company; changes in edition dates; regulations; court decisions; and state jurisdiction. This instructional materials provided by Insight is intended
as a general guideline and any interpretations provided by the instructor or the creator(s) of this material do
not modify or revise insurance policy language. In providing these materials, the authors assume neither
liability nor responsibility to any person or business with respect to any loss that is alleged to be caused directly or indirectly as a result of the instructional
materials provided. Copyright 2010 – 2014 All Rights Reserved
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Your Instructor Today
Marjorie L. Segale, AFIS, CISC, RPLU, CIC, CRIS, ACSR, CISRInsurance Community Center, LLC
Director of EducationPresident: Segale Consulting
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Objectives
1. Agent / Broker / Producer – difference?2. Background on Brokers Fees3. Can Agents Charge Fees?4. Can Brokers Charge Fees?
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Licensing – Washington State Changed effective 7-1-2009 from defined agent,
broker, solicitor, service representatives to producer RCW 48.17.010 (6) “Insurance producer” means a person required to
be licensed under the laws of this state to sell, solicit or negotiate insurance. “Insurance producer” does not include title insurance agents as defined in subsection (16) of this section or surplus lines brokers licensed under chapter 48.15 RCW.
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Licensing – Washington State RCW 48.17.060 (1) A person shall not sell, solicit, or negotiate
insurance in this state for any line or lines of insurance unless the person is licensed for the line of authority in accordance with this chapter.
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California State
(b) If a transaction involves both a retail broker and a wholesale intermediary broker, the wholesale intermediary broker shall be deemed to have satisfied its disclosure obligations under this section if it provides written disclosure to the retail broker of the criteria set forth in paragraphs (2), (3) and (4) of subdivision (a).
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California State
(c) The presumption of broker status is rebutted as to any transaction in the admitted market in which any of the following is present: (1) The licensee is appointed, pursuant to
Section 1704.
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California State
(2) The licensee has a written agreement with an insurer containing express terms that authorize the licensee to obligate the insurer without first obtaining notification from the insurer that the insurer has accepted, conditionally or unconditionally, the submitted risk.
(3) The licensee is authorized, pursuant to a written agreement with an insurer, to pay claims on behalf of the insurer.
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California State
(d) In all other cases, the presumption of broker status is rebutted based on the totality of the circumstances indicating that the broker-agent is acting on behalf of the insurer.
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California State
(e) For purposes of this section, “totality of the circumstances” means evidence indicating whether a broker-agent was acting on behalf of the insurer or was acting on behalf of a third person. In determining the totality of circumstances, all relevant facts and circumstances shall be reviewed and the review is not limited to any particular fact or factors and this section does not require that any particular circumstance receive greater or lesser weight.
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Section 1732. A person acting as an insurance broker may, on behalf of an insurance company, collect and transmit premium or return premium and deliver policies and other documents evidencing insurance. Performance of those functions shall not be construed for any purpose to mean that the person is an insurance agent.
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Krumme v. Mercury Insurance Company, et al The foregoing language that is now part of the
California Insurance Code is a result of this case from 2004
Previously – the terms broker and agent were one line definitions in the CIC
In 1990 the statute added the term broker-agent, which defined “fire and casualty licensee”
The case involved brokers who “are operating as de facto agents” but were being advertised by Mercury as independent.
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And Then Came Eliot Spitzer
Also in 2004, Eliot Spitzer, then the New York State Attorney General who went after the “big three” brokers – Marsh, AON and Willis for receiving “contingent commission”
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And Then Came Eliot Spitzer
This was a an action taken by him after receiving a letter from the Washington Legal Foundation stating that the insurance industry practice of insurers paying certain fees to insurance brokers constituted a conflict of interest and a potential violation of a broker’s fiduciary duty to their client.
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And Then Came Eliot Spitzer
On 10-14-2004, Spitzer filed a lawsuit against Marsh alleging statutory claims of fraud, securities fraud, state anti-trust violations and common law claims for fraud and unjust enrichment. He also included AIG, ACE and Hartford as defendants.
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And Then Came Eliot Spitzer
Spitzer was alleging that the broker was “steering” business to insurance companies that were willing to pay for large volume of business. This led to “bid rigging” and market manipulation.
Many states started piling on, including California
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Background
Broker’s Fees have been historically charged to a client for several reasons: Placing business with an insurance company
without an appointment Commission is too low and the workload too high The account has been bid net of commission Additional duties beyond the normal transacting of
insurance
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California State
California Must have a signed disclosure statement
when placing personal auto insurance All fees must be disclosed If commissions will be earned (the fact, not
the amount)
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California Agent Fees
No fees for transaction of insurance Can charge fees for work that requires
significant time over and above transaction of insurance Claims analysis Loss control consultation Comprehensive Risk Analysis of operations,
property, or activities Photos of personal property / business personal
property
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California Broker’s Fee Disclosures Can be for transaction of insurance Can be any amount Personal auto – disclose in writing and signed
by client
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Washington State
Not required if the only compensation the producer receives is the commission from the insurance company Used when receiving commission and
charging a fee Provides optional disclosures Producer signs Insured signs
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Washington State
Part 1 – only charging a fee Part 2 – receiving commission and
charging a fee Part 3 – receiving additional (contingent)
commissions
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Advising the Client
Most states have statutes in place that require notification to the client in the event additional compensation is charged to the client Varies significantly state to state
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Advising the Client
Majority of brokers use a disclosure of fees and commissions that is included with every proposal and/or renewal document for every client, whether or not additional fees are charged
The disclosure needs to be broad enough to encompass all of the different statutory requirements in all states where business is being written
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What is Prudent Disclosure?
Any and all fees Contingent commissions Additional compensation from
wholesaler and/or company Additional compensation from premium
finance companies
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How Much?
There are very few statutes anywhere on this A prudent person would place it as a
reasonable amount So what is reasonable?
$250.00 fee on an $800 policy is NOT reasonable Often dictated by the amount a client will pay 10-15% is a typical amount of either fee,
commission or combination
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Fee / Commission / Disclosure Best Practices Full disclosure prominently displayed on
every client proposal If no proposal provided to client,
incorporate into your policy transmittal cover letter
Displayed on agency/brokerage website
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Fee / Commission / Disclosure Best Practices If acting as an agent, only charge fees
for non-transaction related services Disclose AND perform those services If acting as a broker, charge a reasonable
fee and disclose it In CA, must disclose in writing a fee added
to an auto policy and client must sign Cannot charge a fee for Assigned Risk or FAIR
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Summary
Follow the state statute where you place business
Use a well-drafted disclosure of commissions, fees and contingent commissions with every client
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Upcoming Classes3/25 Business Income – 5 Key Issues You
Must Understand4/3 Business Income – Considerations in
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4/10 5 Key Issues You Must Know About Workers Compensation Insurance
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