OFFICIAL RECORD OF PROCEEDINGSsc.legco.gov.hk/sc/«‹法會 2011年6月22日 LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL 22 June 2011 2 涂謹申議員 THE HONOURABLE JAMES TO KUN-SUN 張文光議員 THE

2011 6 22 LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL 22 June 2011

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OFFICIAL RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS

2011 622

Wednesday, 22 June 2011

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The Council met at Eleven o'clock MEMBERS PRESENT: G.B.S., J.P. THE PRESIDENT THE HONOURABLE JASPER TSANG YOK-SING, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE ALBERT HO CHUN-YAN S.B.S., S.B.ST.J., J.P. IR DR THE HONOURABLE RAYMOND HO CHUNG-TAI, S.B.S., S.B.ST.J., J.P. THE HONOURABLE LEE CHEUK-YAN G.B.S., J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE DAVID LI KWOK-PO, G.B.M., G.B.S., J.P. S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE FRED LI WAH-MING, S.B.S., J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE MARGARET NG


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THE HONOURABLE JAMES TO KUN-SUN THE HONOURABLE CHEUNG MAN-KWONG S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE CHAN KAM-LAM, S.B.S., J.P. G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE MRS SOPHIE LEUNG LAU YAU-FUN, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE LEUNG YIU-CHUNG G.B.S. DR THE HONOURABLE PHILIP WONG YU-HONG, G.B.S. S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE WONG YUNG-KAN, S.B.S., J.P. J.P. THE HONOURABLE LAU KONG-WAH, J.P. G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE LAU WONG-FAT, G.B.M., G.B.S., J.P. G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE MIRIAM LAU KIN-YEE, G.B.S., J.P. J.P. THE HONOURABLE EMILY LAU WAI-HING, J.P. THE HONOURABLE ANDREW CHENG KAR-FOO G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE TAM YIU-CHUNG, G.B.S., J.P.


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S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE ABRAHAM SHEK LAI-HIM, S.B.S., J.P. S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE LI FUNG-YING, S.B.S., J.P. S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE TOMMY CHEUNG YU-YAN, S.B.S., J.P. S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE FREDERICK FUNG KIN-KEE, S.B.S., J.P. S.C., J.P. THE HONOURABLE AUDREY EU YUET-MEE, S.C., J.P. S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE VINCENT FANG KANG, S.B.S., J.P. M.H. THE HONOURABLE WONG KWOK-HING, M.H. THE HONOURABLE LEE WING-TAT S.B.S., J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE JOSEPH LEE KOK-LONG, S.B.S., J.P. S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE JEFFREY LAM KIN-FUNG, S.B.S., J.P. G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE ANDREW LEUNG KWAN-YUEN, G.B.S., J.P. G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE CHEUNG HOK-MING, G.B.S., J.P. B.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE WONG TING-KWONG, B.B.S., J.P.


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S.C. THE HONOURABLE RONNY TONG KA-WAH, S.C. THE HONOURABLE CHIM PUI-CHUNG S.B.S., J.P. PROF THE HONOURABLE PATRICK LAU SAU-SHING, S.B.S., J.P. M.H. THE HONOURABLE KAM NAI-WAI, M.H. THE HONOURABLE CYD HO SAU-LAN J.P. THE HONOURABLE STARRY LEE WAI-KING, J.P. B.B.S., J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE LAM TAI-FAI, B.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE CHAN HAK-KAN M.H., J.P. THE HONOURABLE PAUL CHAN MO-PO, M.H., J.P. J.P. THE HONOURABLE CHAN KIN-POR, J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE PRISCILLA LEUNG MEI-FUN DR THE HONOURABLE LEUNG KA-LAU THE HONOURABLE CHEUNG KWOK-CHE


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THE HONOURABLE WONG SING-CHI B.B.S. THE HONOURABLE WONG KWOK-KIN, B.B.S. M.H. THE HONOURABLE IP WAI-MING, M.H. G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE IP KWOK-HIM, G.B.S., J.P. G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE MRS REGINA IP LAU SUK-YEE, G.B.S., J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE PAN PEY-CHYOU THE HONOURABLE PAUL TSE WAI-CHUN J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE SAMSON TAM WAI-HO, J.P. S.C. THE HONOURABLE ALAN LEONG KAH-KIT, S.C. THE HONOURABLE LEUNG KWOK-HUNG THE HONOURABLE TANYA CHAN THE HONOURABLE ALBERT CHAN WAI-YIP THE HONOURABLE WONG YUK-MAN


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MEMBER ABSENT: G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE TIMOTHY FOK TSUN-TING, G.B.S., J.P. PUBLIC OFFICERS ATTENDING: G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE HENRY TANG YING-YEN, G.B.M., G.B.S., J.P. THE CHIEF SECRETARY FOR ADMINISTRATION J.P. THE HONOURABLE JOHN TSANG CHUN-WAH, G.B.M., J.P. THE FINANCIAL SECRETARY

S.C., J.P. THE HONOURABLE WONG YAN-LUNG, S.C., J.P. THE SECRETARY FOR JUSTICE

G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE MICHAEL SUEN MING-YEUNG, G.B.S., J.P. SECRETARY FOR EDUCATION G.B.S., I.D.S.M., J.P. THE HONOURABLE AMBROSE LEE SIU-KWONG, G.B.S., I.D.S.M., J.P. SECRETARY FOR SECURITY

G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE DENISE YUE CHUNG-YEE, G.B.S., J.P. SECRETARY FOR THE CIVIL SERVICE G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE TSANG TAK-SING, G.B.S., J.P. SECRETARY FOR HOME AFFAIRS


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G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE MATTHEW CHEUNG KIN-CHUNG, G.B.S., J.P. SECRETARY FOR LABOUR AND WELFARE

S.B.S., J.P. PROF THE HONOURABLE K C CHAN, S.B.S., J.P. SECRETARY FOR FINANCIAL SERVICES AND THE TREASURY

G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE MRS CARRIE LAM CHENG YUET-NGOR, G.B.S., J.P. SECRETARY FOR DEVELOPMENT

J.P. THE HONOURABLE EVA CHENG, J.P. SECRETARY FOR TRANSPORT AND HOUSING

CLERKS IN ATTENDANCE: MS PAULINE NG MAN-WAH, SECRETARY GENERAL MISS ODELIA LEUNG HING-YEE, ASSISTANT SECRETARY GENERAL MRS JUSTINA LAM CHENG BO-LING, ASSISTANT SECRETARY GENERAL MRS PERCY MA, ASSISTANT SECRETARY GENERAL


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TABLING OF PAPERS 21(2) The following papers were laid on the table under Rule 21(2) of the Rules of Procedure:

2011 ........................ 105/2011 2011 ( ) ...................... 106/2011

Subsidiary Legislation/Instruments L.N. No.

Declaration of Increase in Pensions Notice 2011 .............. 105/2011 Widows and Orphans Pension (Increase) Notice 2011...... 106/2011

26/10-11 2010 ( )( 2 )

Other Papers

Report of the Committee on Members' Interests on its consideration of a complaint against Ir Dr Hon Raymond HO, Hon Jeffrey LAM and Hon Abraham SHEK


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Report No. 26/10-11 of the House Committee on Consideration of Subsidiary Legislation and Other Instruments Report of the Bills Committee on Legislation Publication Bill Report of the Bills Committee on Stamp Duty (Amendment) (No. 2) Bill 2010

ADDRESSES

Report of the Committee on Members' Interests on its consideration of a complaint against Ir Dr Hon Raymond HO, Hon Jeffrey LAM and Hon Abraham SHEK ( )

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24(4) QUESTIONS UNDER RULE 24(4) OF THE RULES OF PROCEDURE 24(4)

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MR ABRAHAM SHEK: Deputy President, let me tell you a story. In the winter of 2008, against the United States Federal Reserve Chairman Ben BERNANKE's decision to sharply cut the federal funds in just four months, Milton FRIEDMAN, the world-renowned economist, once critically commented BERNANKE as "the fool in the shower", referring a bather who, thinking his shower water is too cold, turns the hot water all the way up and hurts himself in the process. Today, herein the debate on the Stamp Duty (Amendment) (No. 2) Bill 2010, nothing shall I find it more appropriate than this analogy which I shall dedicate to our Administration which seems to fall on deaf ears to the cri de coeur in reality. Prelude to elaborating my view on the Bill, I shall thank the Committee chairman Mr James TO for his leadership under which a total of 13 meetings have been held, reflecting the inadequacies of the draft Bill. In tapping the hot shower in the property market, I recognize our Government's attempt in adjusting the cold switch to the extent that a stable and healthy private sector property market could be maintained. Time and again, during the earlier discussions on the Bill, however, I find our Government always bears benign intention, but acts as a bull raging in the china shop. I understand that our Government proposes to curb short-term speculative activities in the local residential property market, bearing the hope that at least the residential property prices will not have climbed further. In fact, Deputy President, it misses the logic that the two are not directly and necessarily related: the short-term speculative activities are only one but not the most significant reason contributing to the current property price level many may see as exorbitantly high, also worded by our Chief Executive recently as "frightening". Firstly, we have to concede that with the two rounds of "quantitative easing" (the QE) in the United States following the financial tsunami in 2008, there is an excess of money supply while most of which flows to the East for investments. Hong Kong, under the low interest-rate environment with our free and open economy, and pray for its continued existence without which we will not be having the success that we are now enjoying. This free and open economy allows unrestricted capital inflows and outflows, becomes a paradise for our local, Mainland and even global investors. Against this backdrop, it is not hard to understand that due to the strong external demand and the limited supply of land previously released, another blunder of the Administration, the property prices have been on a rapid rise since 2009. It is worthwhile to note that it is under this environment that the short-term speculative activities are


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groomed, adding fuel to the fire-hot property market. Although I have no qualms with our Government's efforts in combating the short-term speculative activities, I do have much reservation of whether the property market will go as our Government's plot. If not, where will we be eventually led to by the Government? The cloud-cuckoo-land which is heaven-distance away from Hong Kong? They are leading us farther and farther away from reality. ( ) One of the prominent features found in the Bill is that the special stamp duty (SSD) was imposed on transactions of residential property acquired on or after 20 November 2010 and resold within 24 months after acquisition at the regressive rates from 15% to 5% for different holding periods, thereby treating every honest transaction, with the exception of those having granted the exemption, as speculation to be taxed indiscriminately. Surely this is not the Spirit nor the Letter of the Bill. Now half a year has gone, according to the latest statistics, the average number of monthly residential property transactions in the first five months of 2011 was 9 200, recording a 30% decrease from 13 200 transactions in last November. While it is relieved that the speculative activities in residential properties is seen as a sharp decline, nonetheless, it is interesting to learn that the property prices remain at the same level, if not increasing and breaking new records. A question has popped up: if the end in curbing speculative activities in the local residential property market has already been achieved, thanks to the SSD, should our Government agree with the CSA which I shall later propose to include a sunset-clause on the SSD mechanism? If not, then it means that the SSD is an integral part of our Government's long-term tax revenue policy rather than the short-term cure in curbing speculative activities. If they want to catch the thief, they catch everybody. This is the whole essence of this SSD. If the SSD is in fact seen as a means in achieving the ultimate aim in stabilizing the residential property prices, it is doomed to be "on the fool's errand of history". On top of the SSD, our Government has kept switching on the cooling button in the shower: for example, the rate of stamp duty has earlier been increased from 3.75% to 4.25% for transactions of immovable property valued at more than $20 million. A week ago, the mortgage loans for residential property


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valued at between $10 million and $12 million were tightened from 60% to 50% while for properties valued at between $7 million and $10 million, the maximum loan-to-value ratio was lowered from 70% to 60%. In addition, the total loan value must not exceed $5 million. By greatly increasing the borrowing costs with a couple of measures all in one go, it is important to stay vigilant of whether a hard landing will be resulted if the interest rate will subsequently increase following the United States Federal Reserve's decision of whether the QE practice will be aborted next month. Due attention also needs to be paid to the public who may find it increasingly hard in purchasing their homes with the increase in borrowing costs. In other words, our Government ought not go too far and do too much in flip-flopping between the hot and cold switches lest the near 8 million Hong Kong people in the shower will be in peril. Like most Hong Kong people, I am also in favour of a stable property market. I understand the limits of the SSD and the aforementioned tightening measures of mortgage loans. In addressing the huge surplus in property demand over its supply, the only and the most feasible way out is to increase land supply so that the discrepancy between the demand and supply of the residential properties will be narrowed. As Mr LEE Wing-tat also pointed out, the resumption of the HOS is another area which the Government should look into in order to give confidence to the people that they could also own property. In light of this, I propose that the SSD shall not be chargeable where there are internal transfers or sale of the bare site between the associated corporations within the 24 months. On contrary to the hypothetical claim by our Government that certain loopholes will be created for the possibility of speculation, the truth is however opposite: the development potential of the land will be put to full use, while, with the operation cost being optimized in accordance with the principle of the economies of scale, the progress of land development for residential properties will be expedited and more importantly, the development cost of the residential project will be saved. At the other end, more prospective buyers, especially those aspiring youngsters, will be offered more affordable homes. President, in rationalizing the shower temperature of our property market, our Government should stay alert to the external economic environment, especially the United States, and Mainland economic changes from time to time. If one day is already too long in politics, equally, the abrupt announcement of the Federal Reserve over any changes in interest rate level that comes, even in a minute's time, is long enough to pull and push our residential property market to


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Chairman, clause 8, section 29CA(2) sets out that a chargeable agreement for sale is chargeable with the special stamp duty (SSD) if the residential property concerned is disposed of within 24 months beginning on the day on which the vendor acquired the property. While clause 10, section 29DA(2) sets out that a conveyance on sale is chargeable with the SSD if the residential property concerned is disposed of within a period of 24 months beginning on the day on which the transferor under the conveyance acquired the property. The two amendments I move are about acquisition and disposal of bare sites. The SSD is imposed as an extraordinary measure under current exceptional circumstances to discourage short-term speculation in residential flats, I repeat, in residential flats. Where a developer acquires a bare site and sells the site before any building is erected on the site, no speculation concerning residential units is involved and there is no justification for imposing the SSD. Imposing the SSD on the disposal of bare sites could have the unintended effect of reducing land supply, which is against the general consensus on stabilizing the residential property market by increasing land supply. This worry is not unfounded. To avoid payment of the SSD, developers could hold onto the sites for longer. A developer, in some instances, who has acquired a bare site may find himself in financial difficulties and might wish to sell the site before any building is erected on it. Moreover, in some other circumstances, a developer could, for commercial reasons, decide not to develop the bare site himself. He could decide to sell a site that is too small to be developed into a quality building to another developer who owns an adjoining site, to enable the other developer to amalgamate the two sites into a larger site for a better development. In any of the above cases, the imposition of the SSD would inhibit the disposal of the bare site by the developer, with the consequence that supply is reduced. Furthermore, the additional cost of the SSD would eventually be passed on to consumers. I therefore propose that where a person acquires a bare site and disposes of the site within 24 months, before any building has been erected, the SSD shall not be chargeable.


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The proposed amendments to sections 29CA(2) and 29DA(2) are intended to cover the above scenarios. The only difference between section 29CA(2) and section 29DA(2) is that section 29CA(2) deals with certain agreements for sale, while section 29DA(2) deals with conveyances on the sale of residential property. Chairman, the proposed new sections 29CA(11) and 29DA(13B) provide that where an internal transfer has taken place, the date of acquisition for the purpose of the SSD shall be deemed to be the date of acquisition by the transferor. The Administration has accepted that the SSD is not chargeable for a transfer between associated corporations where the transfer is exempted from payment of stamp duty under section 29H(3) or section 45. However, the Administration refuses to accept that for the purpose of the SSD, in the event of a disposal by the transferee, the 24-month period should count from the date of acquisition by the transferor, instead of the transferee. The Administration is saying that the period should count from the date of transfer to the transferee. These transfers are effectively internal transfers within the same group. It would be logical to count the 24 months from the date when the group first acquired the property, that is, the date when the transferor acquired the property. Chairman, I am not convinced by the Administration's flimsy explanation that it is inappropriate to provide specific exemptions for the abovementioned scenarios because the possibility of speculation cannot be ruled out, or because it could send the wrong message and create loopholes. My CSAs concerning the provision of exemptions from the SSD for acquisition and disposal of bare sites and transfers between associated corporations contain no hidden agenda or ulterior motives to weaken the SSD which I support. Instead, they are intended to minimize the negative impacts that the SSD could have on the property market in restricting the adequate supply of land. It is disappointing that the Administration is reluctant to understand the difficulties of the developers and their usual practices and accept my CSAs. If the Administration really cares about loopholes, how can it turn a blind eye to the loopholes it has created? One of the biggest loopholes in the Bill is that it separates the SSD from the Administration's housing policy, such as the resumption of the HOS. The


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SSD and other measures like mortgage loan ratio and increasing flat supply should be considered as a whole. They cannot be brutally separated. While the Administration is flaunting its declared determination to increase flat supply, is it logical for the Administration to push ahead with legislation that could defeat that purpose? I am speaking as a practitioner of the trade, and I know this will happen. As an old Chinese proverb goes, "lifting a rock only to have his own toes squashed." () That is the best illustration of how this Administration formulated the SSD. Thank you.

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which is unlikely, the special stamp duty (SSD) will cease to apply at midnight on 19 May 2012, 18 months after it took effect. On the other hand, the Bill also serves to cancel the existing arrangements under the Stamp Duty Ordinance for the deferral of payment of stamp duty chargeable with certain agreements for sale of residential properties valued at $20 million or below. As the introduction of the SSD and the cancellation of the payment deferral are part and parcel of the measure to deal with the current exceptional circumstances, both should be subject to the same sunset clause. As regards the expiry date, the intention is that the SSD shall cease to be chargeable after the expiry date irrespective of the date of acquisition or disposal but this should not affect any charge to the SSD which has already arisen or crystallized on or before the expiry date. Also, payment deferral should continue to be available after the expiry date. The Administration says that the SSD is needed as an extraordinary measure under the current extraordinary circumstances in Hong Kong to address short-term speculation in residential units. As the name "special" suggests, one would expect these exceptional circumstances to disappear and evaporate into the air in the not-too-distant future for our sake because the high property price would somehow go down with the success of this SSD. In such a case, the SSD should cease to apply. One major problem with the SSD is that it will severely reduce the flexibility of homeowners and genuine investors in the disposal or transfer of their properties. What is more, a lot of innocent private homeowners, who have not in any way participated in any speculation, may be caught by the measure. An owner could be forced to sell his unit due to financial difficulties (such as losing his job or unexpected losses in his business) or changes in family circumstances, and so on. I understand that there are some 1.5 million homeowners in Hong Kong and they will be affected although the Government has kindly agreed to the recommendation of the Bills Committee to grant a number of exceptions but those are limited. Yet the Administration has refused to make provision for exemption or relief in the above circumstances. Chairman, although the SSD is not imposed as a tax for revenue purpose, the Bill does not provide a date for the cessation of the SSD, nor is a mechanism provided for its review by the Legislative Council. As it now stands, the Bill will incorporate the SSD as a permanent feature of the Stamp Duty Ordinance.


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The SSD has already given rise to a lot of concerns among homeowners, investors, estate agents, the legal profession and the banking and financial community, quite apart from the developers. The imposition of the SSD without a sunset clause is unfair to homeowners and genuine investors; it will undermine Hong Kong's reputation as a free-market economy, and it will ultimately have an adverse effect and impact on the important sector of our economy. The Administration and some of my Honourable colleagues say that a sunset clause will create a wrong signal and add volatility to the market. However, as I mentioned earlier, the biggest driving force to change market expectation depends on demand and supply, rather than a sunset clause. If there is a sunset clause, it can dampen the rise in property prices. So, it should be introduced. If the Government really wishes to provide the market with a positive outlook and sentiment, it should handle the issue via steady supply of land and flats and the resumption of the Home Ownership Scheme (HOS). Earlier, the Secretary has explained that any form of subsidized housing is not to control the rising property prices. That may be so, and it is a fact. But somehow, the Secretary has forgotten that there are other people who are actually not qualified to purchase flats in the private market. They also have a right to purchase home and that is where the HOS comes in. The HOS market and the private market are two separate markets and the Government should take heed of this. It should also look into the aspect of how to improve the secondary HOS market. At the moment, the Government encourages the HOS transactions in the secondary market by imposing a premium. Chairman, that actually has put the HOS secondary market into the private sector market which is the most unhealthy. This is something which the Government should stop doing. The Government should actually only encourage people who are qualified to buy secondary HOS flats to buy from the secondary HOS market, and not the people outside who can afford to buy from the private market. Although the Administration has indicated that it will review the SSD once every 24 months or earlier after the enactment of the Bill, or as circumstances require, as presently drafted, the Administration is under no compulsion to do so, nor can the Legislative Council compel the Administration to do so. There are many such cases and earlier, Margaret has actually given a very good example. Moreover, what are the circumstances that will trigger the promised review


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exercise? A 30% plunge in property prices? A fall in the number of property transactions within 24 months to pre-2008 levels? Or another global financial catastrophe? Since the Administration has not provided an objective standard for the review exercise, I am afraid the Administration will break its promise. Just as in many previous policies, that which is not explicitly mentioned is equivalent to being non-existent. Thus, the SSD would become a "standing stamp duty" instead of a "special stamp duty". So, would it not be better for the Legislative Council to be conferred with the power to take on the supervisory role rather than the Administration? In my view, it would not be right for the Legislative Council to allow the Bill to go through without providing for a mechanism whereby the Administration must review the SSD and put forward its recommendation to the Legislative Council, failing which the SSD will cease to apply. The Legislative Council will be assured of a review and the decision to continue or not to continue with the SSD will rest with Legislative Council. This means that the Legislative Council, instead of the Administration, will administer the authorities in enforcing the legislation. By so doing, the Legislative Council is doing nothing more than performing its function of monitoring the Government, which is an authority bestowed upon us by the Basic Law. I am therefore proposing a sunset date of say, 18 months from 20 November 2010, by which date the SSD will cease to apply. That is, the SSD will cease to apply at midnight on 19 May 2012, being 18 months after the SSD came into effect, and that Legislative Council will have the power to amend the sunset date by resolution. Chairman, from time to time, our Honourable colleagues say that they feel powerless to challenge the Administration's decisions. This is the opportunity you have been asking for. If you vote against it, you are rejecting this right that you should have. They also say that they do not receive due respect from the Government surely, yes, you have because you are voting with them and their recommendations are usually left neglected. This, I stand to be neglected today and I am very proud of it. Today, a prime chance is given to every Honourable Member: just cast a vote to support this sunset clause and have the dignity of the Legislative Council reinforced.


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2011622

LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL 22 June 2011

OFFICIAL RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS

2011622

Wednesday, 22 June 2011

11

The Council met at Eleven o'clock

MEMBERS PRESENT:

G.B.S., J.P.

THE PRESIDENT

THE HONOURABLE JASPER TSANG YOK-SING, G.B.S., J.P.

THE HONOURABLE ALBERT HO CHUN-YAN

S.B.S., S.B.ST.J., J.P.

IR DR THE HONOURABLE RAYMOND HO CHUNG-TAI, S.B.S., S.B.ST.J., J.P.

THE HONOURABLE LEE CHEUK-YAN

G.B.S., J.P.

DR THE HONOURABLE DAVID LI KWOK-PO, G.B.M., G.B.S., J.P.

S.B.S., J.P.

THE HONOURABLE FRED LI WAH-MING, S.B.S., J.P.

DR THE HONOURABLE MARGARET NG

THE HONOURABLE JAMES TO KUN-SUN

THE HONOURABLE CHEUNG MAN-KWONG

S.B.S., J.P.

THE HONOURABLE CHAN KAM-LAM, S.B.S., J.P.

G.B.S., J.P.

THE HONOURABLE MRS SOPHIE LEUNG LAU YAU-FUN, G.B.S., J.P.

THE HONOURABLE LEUNG YIU-CHUNG

G.B.S.

DR THE HONOURABLE PHILIP WONG YU-HONG, G.B.S.

S.B.S., J.P.

THE HONOURABLE WONG YUNG-KAN, S.B.S., J.P.

J.P.

THE HONOURABLE LAU KONG-WAH, J.P.

G.B.S., J.P.

THE HONOURABLE LAU WONG-FAT, G.B.M., G.B.S., J.P.

G.B.S., J.P.

THE HONOURABLE MIRIAM LAU KIN-YEE, G.B.S., J.P.

J.P.

THE HONOURABLE EMILY LAU WAI-HING, J.P.

THE HONOURABLE ANDREW CHENG KAR-FOO

G.B.S., J.P.

THE HONOURABLE TAM YIU-CHUNG, G.B.S., J.P.

S.B.S., J.P.

THE HONOURABLE ABRAHAM SHEK LAI-HIM, S.B.S., J.P.

S.B.S., J.P.

THE HONOURABLE LI FUNG-YING, S.B.S., J.P.

S.B.S., J.P.

THE HONOURABLE TOMMY CHEUNG YU-YAN, S.B.S., J.P.

S.B.S., J.P.

THE HONOURABLE FREDERICK FUNG KIN-KEE, S.B.S., J.P.

S.C., J.P.

THE HONOURABLE AUDREY EU YUET-MEE, S.C., J.P.

S.B.S., J.P.

THE HONOURABLE VINCENT FANG KANG, S.B.S., J.P.

M.H.

THE HONOURABLE WONG KWOK-HING, M.H.

THE HONOURABLE LEE WING-TAT

S.B.S., J.P.

DR THE HONOURABLE JOSEPH LEE KOK-LONG, S.B.S., J.P.

S.B.S., J.P.

THE HONOURABLE JEFFREY LAM KIN-FUNG, S.B.S., J.P.

G.B.S., J.P.

THE HONOURABLE ANDREW LEUNG KWAN-YUEN, G.B.S., J.P.

G.B.S., J.P.

THE HONOURABLE CHEUNG HOK-MING, G.B.S., J.P.

B.B.S., J.P.

THE HONOURABLE WONG TING-KWONG, B.B.S., J.P.

S.C.

THE HONOURABLE RONNY TONG KA-WAH, S.C.

THE HONOURABLE CHIM PUI-CHUNG

S.B.S., J.P.

PROF THE HONOURABLE PATRICK LAU SAU-SHING, S.B.S., J.P.

M.H.

THE HONOURABLE KAM NAI-WAI, M.H.

THE HONOURABLE CYD HO SAU-LAN

J.P.

THE HONOURABLE STARRY LEE WAI-KING, J.P.

B.B.S., J.P.

DR THE HONOURABLE LAM TAI-FAI, B.B.S., J.P.

THE HONOURABLE CHAN HAK-KAN

M.H., J.P.

THE HONOURABLE PAUL CHAN MO-PO, M.H., J.P.

J.P.

THE HONOURABLE CHAN KIN-POR, J.P.

DR THE HONOURABLE PRISCILLA LEUNG MEI-FUN

DR THE HONOURABLE LEUNG KA-LAU

THE HONOURABLE CHEUNG KWOK-CHE

THE HONOURABLE WONG SING-CHI

B.B.S.

THE HONOURABLE WONG KWOK-KIN, B.B.S.

M.H.

THE HONOURABLE IP WAI-MING, M.H.

G.B.S., J.P.

THE HONOURABLE IP KWOK-HIM, G.B.S., J.P.

G.B.S., J.P.

THE HONOURABLE MRS REGINA IP LAU SUK-YEE, G.B.S., J.P.

DR THE HONOURABLE PAN PEY-CHYOU

THE HONOURABLE PAUL TSE WAI-CHUN

J.P.

DR THE HONOURABLE SAMSON TAM WAI-HO, J.P.

S.C.

THE HONOURABLE ALAN LEONG KAH-KIT, S.C.

THE HONOURABLE LEUNG KWOK-HUNG

THE HONOURABLE TANYA CHAN

THE HONOURABLE ALBERT CHAN WAI-YIP

THE HONOURABLE WONG YUK-MAN

MEMBER ABSENT:

G.B.S., J.P.

THE HONOURABLE TIMOTHY FOK TSUN-TING, G.B.S., J.P.

PUBLIC OFFICERS ATTENDING:

G.B.S., J.P.

THE HONOURABLE HENRY TANG YING-YEN, G.B.M., G.B.S., J.P.

THE CHIEF SECRETARY FOR ADMINISTRATION

J.P.

THE HONOURABLE JOHN TSANG CHUN-WAH, G.B.M., J.P.

THE FINANCIAL SECRETARY

S.C., J.P.

THE HONOURABLE WONG YAN-LUNG, S.C., J.P.

THE SECRETARY FOR JUSTICE

G.B.S., J.P.

THE HONOURABLE MICHAEL SUEN MING-YEUNG, G.B.S., J.P.

SECRETARY FOR EDUCATION

G.B.S., I.D.S.M., J.P.

THE HONOURABLE AMBROSE LEE SIU-KWONG, G.B.S., I.D.S.M., J.P.

SECRETARY FOR SECURITY

G.B.S., J.P.

THE HONOURABLE DENISE YUE CHUNG-YEE, G.B.S., J.P.

SECRETARY FOR THE CIVIL SERVICE

G.B.S., J.P.

THE HONOURABLE TSANG TAK-SING, G.B.S., J.P.

SECRETARY FOR HOME AFFAIRS

G.B.S., J.P.

THE HONOURABLE MATTHEW CHEUNG KIN-CHUNG, G.B.S., J.P.

SECRETARY FOR LABOUR AND WELFARE

S.B.S., J.P.

PROF THE HONOURABLE K C CHAN, S.B.S., J.P.

SECRETARY FOR FINANCIAL SERVICES AND THE TREASURY

G.B.S., J.P.

THE HONOURABLE MRS CARRIE LAM CHENG YUET-NGOR, G.B.S., J.P.

SECRETARY FOR DEVELOPMENT

J.P.

THE HONOURABLE EVA CHENG, J.P.

SECRETARY FOR TRANSPORT AND HOUSING

CLERKS IN ATTENDANCE:

MS PAULINE NG MAN-WAH, SECRETARY GENERAL

MISS ODELIA LEUNG HING-YEE, ASSISTANT SECRETARY GENERAL

MRS JUSTINA LAM CHENG BO-LING, ASSISTANT SECRETARY GENERAL

MRS PERCY MA, ASSISTANT SECRETARY GENERAL

TABLING OF PAPERS

21(2)

The following papers were laid on the table under Rule 21(2) of the Rules of Procedure:

2011

105/2011

2011()

106/2011

Subsidiary Legislation/InstrumentsL.N. No.

Declaration of Increase in Pensions Notice 2011

105/2011

Widows and Orphans Pension (Increase) Notice 2011

106/2011

26/10-11

2010()(2)

Other Papers


Report No. 26/10-11 of the House Committee on Consideration of Subsidiary Legislation and Other Instruments

Report of the Bills Committee on Legislation Publication Bill

Report of the Bills Committee on Stamp Duty (Amendment) (No. 2) Bill 2010

ADDRESSES


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QUESTIONS UNDER RULE 24(4) OF THE RULES OF PROCEDURE

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