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Prima Facie is the annual magazine published by the Waikato University Law Students' Association (WULSA). It features staff and student profiles, alumni profiles, issues and current affairs and much more. An essential read for any Waikato law student or prospective law student.

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MESSAGE FROM THE DEAN

Welcome to the WULSA annual magazine.

2013 was filled with tremendous achievements for students, staff and Te Piringa as a whole. We welcomed many new excellent students and farewelled many others as graduates. Our two research centres (Te Mata Hautū Taketake - Māori and Indigenous Governance Centre and the Centre for Environmental, Resources and Energy Law) respectively have gained in prominence both domestically and globally. We benefited from attracting three exceptional new colleagues, namely Professor Neil Boister, Senior Lecturer Andrew Erueti and Alex Schumacher while saying goodbye to Associate Professor Anna Grear (who remains as an Adjunct), Eileen Suttor, Janine Pickering and Alison Saunders.

In June we hosted the Annual Colloquium of the IUCN’s Academy of Environmental Law for its first visit to New Zealand. This was the largest and most important environmental law gathering so far of the 21st Century for our nation and provided a wonderful opportunity for students to interact with leading practitioners and scholars from around the world. The Colloquium attracted over 200 scholars and practitioners from 35 countries and involved 50 law schools.

The year past witnessed many other major achievements. We were ranked for the first time ever as being one of the top 100 law schools in the world by QS. With the USA alone having over 200 law schools, China over 650 and India now over 1200, this level of recognition for excellence for a faculty only 23 years old is truly breath-taking. Our scholarship had the largest increase of any New Zealand law school in the Performance Based Research review while Te Piringa went from last to first place among the seven faculties and schools at University of Waikato for its research results. I am especially pleased to note that while research recognition has been sharply rising the appraisals of lecturers by law students remained stellar.

Last year witnessed growth and success for Te Whakahiapo, Pacific Law Student Association and WULSA. The New Zealand winners of 2012 represented the nation and Te Piringa very ably at the International Negotiation Competition in Los Angeles. Our

Professor Bradford MorseDean of Law

competition teams did extremely well both in the nationals and in Australia, while our team barely lost in the finals of the International Humanitarian Law Moot in December. Similarly, our representatives to the national Maori Moot final in Rotorua excelled.

2014 will be a similarly memorable year in Faculty history as construction of our new, permanent home will begin shortly. We will welcome at least one new academic in mid-year, a new administrative colleague and many new law students as both our totals of staff and students continue to grow modestly. I hope more of our upper year students go to one of our many overseas law school partners encouraged by the new Martha Morse Student Exchange Scholarship. This is a wonderful way to learn more about another country, its people and its legal system so as to broaden one’s knowledge and career opportunities. I am equally optimistic that we will see more internship opportunities created, along with other methods to acquire practical skills, that build upon recently established internships with the Disputes Tribunal and Police Prosecution Services.

Our Faculty is going from strength to strength becoming more vibrant, exciting and gaining in mana as its reputation for excellence grows. The same is true for WULSA as it expands its educational and learning support activities, and the Law Ball remains the top social event of the year. Let me urge you to get involved in WULSA and its many activities. In particular let me encourage all students from Year One on to participate in the many competitions organised by WULSA and those by Te Piringa. This is a chance to win the right to represent our University at the nationals, in Australia, and even further afield. The skills you acquire, the confidence you gain and the friends you make will all be of tremendous value in your future career. So study hard, get involved and enjoy your life as a law student for these can be wonderful times for you.

On behalf of all academic and administrative staff in Te Piringa let me thank you for choosing to study with us. We will do all that we can to assist in your success.

Professor Bradford MorseDean of Law

FEATURESMessage from the DeanProfessor Bradford Morse(Dean of Law) 2013/14 WULSA Committee

Waikato Summer Clerks

Mental Wellness

Barbara Wallace Staff Profile

Simon BuckinghamWaikato Law Graduate

Margaret WilsonStaff Profile WULSA Events

Tompkins Wake Law Ball

Past PresidentsAshiq HamidBen GilbertMohammad Alobaidi

2013 Competition Results

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WULSA Committee2013/2014

PresidentArno Elsing

Vice-PresidentSamara Roberts-Thompson

TreasurerMatthew Kidd

Vice PresidentsEducation and TrainingRobert West

Public RelationsJadeine McLeod

Sports and SocietiesStevie Shaw

Co-Vice PresidentsSocial Events & HospitalityFarbod AfsharGrace James

CompetitionsChloe DomettStephen Taylor

Co-ordinatorsAna CarlawVanshika Sudhakar

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Welcome to the 2014 edition of the Prima Facie magazine.

In its third year of circulation, this magazine has already proven to be an ever more successful way to stay in touch and provide crucial information to the many Waikato law students. It is truly the combined result of all the hard work of this entire committee. The hours put in by our VP of Public Relations, Jadeine, have been neither meagre nor easy and all credit to her for completing this wonderful addition to the WULSA portfolio. The Waikato University Law Students’ Association is an incorporated society of law students that acts as an advocate for Waikato law students with the goal of enriching and enhancing their time at Waikato. Toward this aim we seek to provide as many opportunities to Waikato law students as possible both socially and academically.

We provide many great social events during the year including law steins, barbecues, the annual Log O’ Wood competition and the much renowned law ball. We also provide a wide variety of education events and forums to support and recognise the value of diversity and enrich your time at Waikato. Come to our annual mentoring evening and find friends and advisers for life, attend the catered education forums and find out about the world you are about to enter and participate in many other

Arno Samara Matthew Robert

Jadeine Stevie Farbod Grace

Chloe Stephen Ana Vanshika

great education events such as the mental wellness barbecue and exam workshops. There really is so much to offer.

For those of you who enjoy advocacy, and have a passion to compete and practice real world skills relating to the legal profession we offer a number of firm sponsored competitions throughout the year. These are run by our very able competition officers who have dedicated countless hours to make your experience as enjoyable as possible. Many of these competitions also qualify winners for a sponsored trip to law student conferences in Australia and New Zealand, it is well worth the effort!

WULSA has come from strength to strength in the time I have been here and this year is looking like another successful year moving forward. We are lucky to be supported by an incredible committee, an enthusiastic and inspiring dean, and a committed and helpful staff. Most importantly we have a law student body that embodies the diversity and spirit that makes both this law school and New Zealand great. This year is shaping into one of the best yet and I wish all of you a fruitful and enjoyable year for 2014!

Arno Elsing - President

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CLERKING REPORTS

Ryan Vernall

Lydia Tsen

Lauren van Arendonk

David Dela Rue

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Ryan Vernall

“This summer I did my clerkship at Simpson Grierson, and it was great having the chance to see the practical side of law. My first rotation was in the Commercial - Sales and Marketing team, which proved to be a real challenge. The work was always interesting and involved a wide range of tasks, such as preparing memos on client issues, publishing tweets about recent developments to inform clients, and updating the team on legal decisions in the UK, EU and Australia at weekly team meetings. My second rotation was in the Banking and Finance team, and the most interesting aspect for me was to see the mechanics of financial transactions. Working in the Banking and Finance team was also an excellent opportunity to learn from other members of the team who were always willing to answer my questions to further my understanding of the practice area. Overall, the standout feature of the firm was the people. Everyone was welcoming from day one, which made it such a positive environment, both professionally and socially.”

David Dela Rue

“My summer clerkship at Bell Gully has been an incredible experience. I have really enjoyed being immersed in the corporate environment at a top tier law firm and getting a taste for life as a corporate lawyer. I had the chance to rotate through both the Corporate and Banking/Finance teams, where highlights included attending a shareholder’s meeting and preparing research memos for the Partner to relay to the client. Having the opportunity to sit inside a Partner’s office has been a great experience and provided a valuable insight into the law in practice as well as real client interaction. The firm and its people really invest a lot of time in the development of its young lawyers and the environment has been very accommodating and collegial. As well as the work itself, my summer has been very social and I have met some amazing people. To all those considering it, I would highly recommend taking up a summer clerkship opportunity such as this one.”

Lauren van Arendonk

“My summer at Minters has been the best hands-on legal work experience I could have asked for. I rotated in two areas, corporate and banking and financial services. I wasn’t asked to stand at a photocopier all day or file endless amounts of documents (despite law school rumours). From my first few days I was drafting disclosure letters, attending client meetings and writing presentations on newly reformed laws. Summer clerks were made to feel very welcome with endless social events including dinners, Friday night drinks and a fabulous Christmas function. Those gruelling yards at law school have been undoubtedly worth it!”

Lydia Tsen

“Over the course of a three-month summer internship, I was exposed to many different aspects of the Parliamentary Counsel Office’s (PCO) role in the legislative process. This internship also broadened my understanding of this process and the NZ legal system. The PCO’s core role is as the drafter and publisher of government bills and legislative instruments. During the internship, I was given the opportunity to follow multiple bills and draft a set of legislative instruments. I was also able to observe the PCO’s additional roles as problem-solver and advisor for government departments. I completed multiple research projects relevant to the drafting process, different areas of the legal system, and analysis of bills during a particular time period and their passage through the House of Representatives. Naturally, one major highlight was being given the chance to attend various government proceedings. The internship provided invaluable experience as it further developed my research skills and understanding of legislation.”

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NZLSA was first alerted to the possibility that the incidence

of mental wellness issues was higher among law students (and practitioners) than their peers by our colleagues at the Australian Law Students’ Association (ALSA).

Why it is the case that law students and practitioners are especially susceptible to mental wellness difficulties remains inconclusive. Whether in fact this is the case and, if so, whether it is limited to those in the law is equally unclear.

But the survey evidence collected here by NZLSA and in Australia is compelling. Over 60 per cent of New Zealand law students attribute high stress levels to their studies, and a quarter report developing a clinical mental health disorder since commencing at university. Of those, nearly 17 per cent believe their law studies were a direct cause of their

illness and a further 55 per cent cite being a law student as a contributing factor. The disorders recorded include depression, anxiety, eating disorders and OCD.

Like physical health, mental health is a constant and integral part of our wellbeing. Like physical health, our behaviours, lifestyle and social situation will affect our mental health. But unlike physical health, it can often be all too easy to neglect our state of mind. All of us will face psychological struggles at some level from time to time, and some will meet the diagnostic criteria for a mental illness. Many of these things can be overcome when armed with good quality information and the motivation to engage in healthy habits. Nearly everyone can recover with the right support, and proactive steps and prompt treatment will greatly assist.

The Mental Wellness Guide Book,

written by recent Waikato graduate Hoory Yeldizian, is aimed at promoting mental wellness awareness and eliminating the stigma of mental illness to all New Zealand law students. The booklet provides an insight into why our chosen degree and profession is stressful and provides techniques on how to cope when it gets tough. These techniques are holistic methods that have been proven to produce remarkable results for your physical and mental health. The methods have been approved by experienced professionals with extensive training in the field.

We encourage all law students if they haven’t already to pick up a copy of The Mental Wellness Guide Book from law reception.

Student Counselling Service The University of WaikatoGate 1

MENTALWELLNESS

MENTAL ILLNESS

HIGH AMONG LAW STUDENTS

STRESS, DEPRESSION

EATING DISORDERSNew Zealand Law Students

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On October 2nd in conjunction with first release of The Mental

Wellness Guidebook WULSA organized the mental wellness day for law students involving a range of activities aimed at relieving stress before the upcoming exams.

We kicked off the day by handing out deliciously sweet “fortune cupcakes”. The team setup a stall greeting students as they came out of classes with caramel, red velvet and butterscotch cupcakes that came with an inspiring message or quote.

Following the cupcake stall WULSA

had exam technique workshops for all year levels, which were run by some of our top law students. Stress levels around exam time are especially high among first year that were particularly relieved to hear that most people struggle with Gay Morgan’s “three humps”.

People flooding out from exam workshops were lead to our fantastically catered BBQ lunch in the law courtyard. We had everything from American hotdogs to fruit kebabs accompanied by cold drinks and music.

Overall the day was a huge success with spirits lifted all round. We look forward to holding the second mental wellness day later this year.

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Simple Ways You Can Think Mental Wellness

1. Keep active2. Eat well

3. Set goals 4. Do something new

5. Do something you’re good at6. Do one thing at a time

7. Keep in touch8. Be in the ‘right’ place

9. Share humour10. Get Involved

11. Treat yourself well12. Take a break

13. Meditate 14. Know thyself15. Think positive 16. Ask for help

17. Accept who you are

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Q Where were you born? Gisborne

Q and your favourite place in NZ?I love the Coromandel and also really enjoy Wellington.

Q What are you passionate about? Relating to my job - I’m passionate about the students, helping them and giving them good service and seeing them achieving their goal, like graduation day. It’s really good.

Q What was your first job? Government department

Q What did you do there? Short hand typing

Q Three things students should know about you?

- To be polite.- That I am here to help- and a big push for this year is for students to bring their ID. If they don’t bring ID they don’t get to pick up their assignment. Two policies that we will really stick to this year are ID’s and no marks will be given out over the phone or via email.

Q Last book you read? I’m reading at the moment that book… The Luminaries

Q Last movie you saw? The book thief! That was great, it was quite sad.

Q University is a trying time for students especially with all the pressures. How would you define successful life?Oh you’ve got to have a balance. Of course you’ve got to put time into study but you’ve got to recharge otherwise you’ll just get burnt out.

Q Almost everyone wishes to be a child again. Why do you?I think the best thing about your childhood is, it’s free and easy and you don’t have responsibilities.

Q What is the most important lesson adulthood has taught you so far which you might want to share with the younger students?If there’s something that you really want to do, do it! Don’t put it off. Work towards achieving that goal.

Q Any advice to students to make things easier for us both? The best advice I could give a student is to say, since I’ve come from being the graduate administrator, if you have a problem come and talk to us, don’t try and deal with it without help. It’s really important not to be out there alone.

BARBARA WALLACE

STAFF PROFILE

RESEARCH SUPPORT

GRADUATE ADMINISTRATOR

[email protected]

ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT

Q Do you keep up to date with the celebrity world? No! Not interested

Q If you could have one super power what would it be?That’s a tough one. To make people happy I guess and especially to enjoy the simple things in life

Q What do you find yourself doing on your days off? Gardening. I love gardening. It’s my passion. Reading and walking

Q Dream holiday destination and why? Probably Italy. I think I would like to experience their culture and I’d really like their food.

Q What are you looking forward to the most during this year? Surviving it!

Q What has been the biggest influence in your life?I just think that life experiences change the way you view things. My husband - I moved here because of his job.

Q What do you enjoy about your job?The students. It’s really nice being here for the students and the admin staff are absolutely wonderful. That’s the two big things.

Q What is your greatest achievement so far?My greatest achievement is my family. I have two wonderful daughters.

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PUBLIC INTEREST LAW?

 About Law For Change

Law For Change was established with the goal of enabling lawyers and law students in Aotearoa New Zealand to harness their legal skills for the public good. We seek to build and strengthen the public interest law community in New Zealand.  

 

WAIKATO CHAPTER Law For Change Waikato Team

The Waikato Chapter of Law For Change launched on July 24th 2013 at the University of Waikato. Speakers from various areas of public interest law came and spoke to our students including Te Piringa staff who specialise and have worked on projects of public interest, as well as members from our wider legal community. We had a great turn out to this event, and a number of students put their names forward to be involved. An Exec team was formed with the vision of building the Law For Change presence both at the University and in the Community. We currently have two projects where students can get involved. These consist of the Law Reform Project and the Legal Education Project.  

Law For Change Waikato Executive Committee Ð From Left to Right: Gaia Church, Ben Hansard, Pawan Atwal, Roshni Bava, Helen Bond, Matthew Kidd & Michelle Chen.

   Visit www.lawforchange.co.nz or email [email protected] for further information This article is authorised for publish by Matthew Kidd Ð University Relations Law For Change Waikato.

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OUR PROJECTS  

LEGAL EDUCATION The term consensus ad idem (meeting of the mind) is widely used in legal studies and describes how parties must have a shared understanding of the law in order to achieve justice. Legal EducationÕs aim embodies this term, created to act as a bridge between the law and the people, equipping the community with knowledge in order to enable such a consensus, one group at a time.

This project is made possible by the dedication and compassion of a group of outstanding, hardworking law students who seek to make a positive difference in the wider community. Legal Education is designed to do just as its name suggests Ð educate Tamariki, NCEA students, and community groups on legal topics or issues as requested.

Legal EducationÕs work is done throughout Hamilton and the wider Waikato area in conjunction with Community Law Waikato, Police, and schools in the area. This education is done through a number of ways, such as facilitating discussion with youth through education for prevention of youth offending in the future, and the running of seminars in conjunction with Community Law Waikato. We graciously welcome any enquiries as to our activities.

LAW REFORM This project involves a group of students who select topics on which to write legal submissions based on proposed law reform, areas of law that are under review or any other area we identify as having weaknesses.

Our work is either submitted to the Parliamentary Select Committee, the Law Commission or another avenue suitable for raising public or industry awareness. The topics chosen are designed with a view to advocating for affected groups or areas that would not normally have a voice, such as certain community groups, animals or the environment.

A key role for the group is to establish links with the local community, for example the Community Law Centre, in order to bridge the gap between Parliament and the people.

 

 

Visit www.lawforchange.co.nz or email [email protected] for further information This article is authorised for publish by Matthew Kidd Ð University Relations Law For Change Waikato.

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SIMONBUCKINGHAM

FIRST AUTISTIC AND ADHD LAWYER

ADVICE TO ALL LAW STUDENTS

Simon Buckingham graduated from Te Piringa - Faculty of Law at the University of Waikato and

is New Zealand’s first Autistic and ADHD lawyer. We spoke with him regarding the challenges those with disabilities face in the legal profession, and what all of us as (aspiring) lawyers can do to challenge common misconceptions about those with a disability.

Q. Could you please tell us about your background and why you chose to study, and then practice law?

I was working in IT Support for Manukau City Council in 2004. A friend called me up and invited me to stay with him and his wife, as he had just started Law at Waikato. I came through and on the advice of Reception, signed up on-line so that they could send out all the info. I read it through and thought that I did not qualify, so forgot all about it. On a Tuesday evening in February 2005 I received a letter telling me that enrolment was on that Thursday. I quit my job then and there, and the rest is history!

Q. How did you find your time studying at Te Piringa - Faculty of Law?

What made it for me were the staff. Some of the lecturers like Al Gillespie, Joel Maynham, Sue Tappenden, Les Arthur etc really made a huge difference for me. My fellow students did not always know what to make of me, for sure, but at that point I was still coming to terms with being on the Autistic Spectrum, so I did not know what to make of myself. Without Marg Dobson at Disability Support, I would never have made it through, especially as I had a very hard time due to a relationship with a fellow student. I will never forget when I completed Advocacy around this time. The lecturer, Julian Maize, gave us all a small chocolate bar. Mine said on the side “It’s the flake that makes it”. I sometimes wonder if that really sums it up in my case.

Q. What has been the biggest challenge you’ve faced in your legal career?Photo credit

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“Rise within the profession with a

quiet, well measured opinion, by telling

the truth at all times, and by sticking to

your ethical values.”

“It’s the flake that makes it”.

I sometimes wonder if that really sums it

up in my case.

That is a tough one. I think it is a recent case where a client was seeking help with sentencing. The client had a traumatic brain injury, and as a result, unless he was listened to properly, he would get verbally aggressive. He found a well respected colleague who is well known to represent him, but the colleague had a Court of Appeal hearing on the same day as the client’s indictable Jury hearing. The Judge refused to shift the date, and as a result, the client had no representation. At Sentencing I wanted to bring this up, but His Honour was definitely not open to any arguments as to procedure. As a result, for cultivation and supply of three cannabis plants, having been abandoned by Legal Aid due frankly to his disability, and being borderline capacity at best, this chap, without representation until sentencing, was given two years nine months. The challenge here, like so many other cases, is getting the Judiciary and Profession to acknowledge disability issues and to be fair and impartial. This is not the fault of the Judiciary, but a huge training issue. Until we can train our professionals, such apparent miscarriages of justice are set to continue. The Criminal Bar works very hard and I cannot fault them. The Judiciary also works hard, but no-one understands as who is there to tell them? This case has shaken me, and I came close to chucking it in due to frustration. However I do not readily give in.

Q. Would you say there are failings in the legal profession in regards to diversity of those employed?

The profession is very conservative and traditional. When there are so many Law Students being pumped out, and so many experienced lawyers without work, why take the risk in employing a lawyer with a disability or diversity issue? I understand this perspective, but I wrote to a lot of Auckland firms, and did not receive one reply. I suspect from this that we as a profession are the first to disregard the Human Rights Act when it comes to employment, as how can it be enforced? I take great pride in being ‘Aspie’ and ADHD, and see these as advantages. However, until

there is some education towards what this actually means, we are doomed to be rejected for work by the mainstream profession. I cannot hold this against my colleagues at Law, but at the same time, we are an asset, not a liability, but we have to step up to teach mainstream society this lesson. After all, 20% of New Zealanders have a disability of one form or another. We are not rare at all!

Q. What can law students be doing to challenge the ‘status quo’ of the legal profession?

That depends upon how they want to change the ‘Status Quo’. Many will do well out of the current system, though at a cost to others possibly. The first thing is when you do your papers, remember what your obligations are as a Professional, and what being a Professional means. It is hard to stand up against the most senior members of the Bar, and easy as anything to get a bad reputation. As such, we must, as lawyers, challenge internally whilst supporting our colleagues publicly. Shouting from the rooftops does not make for change, but alienates people. Rise within the profession with a quiet, well measured opinion, by telling the truth at all times, and by sticking to your ethical values. With this, as well as good grades (and I do not think a straight ‘A’ student is necessarily a better lawyer than a ‘C+’ student when it comes to practice), you will gain respect and be listened to. As such, if you hold on to courtesy, compassion, honesty and integrity towards others, as well as yourself, you may well find it easier to succeed in changing the status quo. However, if you do succeed, when the money starts flowing in, that is the time to maintain that integrity to self. Remember how badly off others are, and don’t sell your soul for the sake of position. People will always respect integrity in the long run. As you rise, you can ask the questions that challenge people and effects change. “Why don’t we seek a diagnosis for the client up on drugs charges who claims they were self medicating?” The reason is that is not how it is done, but the reply is that we need to represent clients to the best of our ability, and neurodiversity

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is a mitigating factor at worst, or an actual defence at best. Never forget your ethical values, and remember this above all things as a direct quote from me: “A lawyer’s job is not to judge or pre-determine. Our job is to give a voice to those who can’t articulate so that others may judge with all the facts at their disposal.”

Q. How would you describe the need for lawyers who understand disability issues or neurological conditions?

Need is the right word. The Criminal Bar is amazing. They work hard and have a social conscience. The majority of clients we see are not the ratbags who are hardened criminals, but those who have made one-off dumb choices, usually due to circumstances. However, how can the profession understand disabilities or neurological issues without any training or even acknowledgement? How can Judges judge without some knowledge? Some Judges think they know it because they know people with such issues, but they know how it affects one person – maybe. They are all keen to learn, but from where?

I admire the passion and commitment to justice within the

profession

but we need to encourage Professional Development in this area. I especially would shout out to His Honour, Becroft J, as head of the Youth Court. He spent a weekend at the ADD Centre Conference in Wellington where I was presenting, simply to learn. His Honour is a great example of a member of the Judiciary who is actively trying to find out. As such, I would like to announce to WULSA readers that I am in the process of developing a training programme for legal professionals to teach about disability and neurodiversity alongside other stakeholders. Many courses cost hundreds or even thousands of dollars, but we intend to make this affordable and accessible to all. We may even have some spaces for students and staff at Waikato if you were interested. Heck. With enough interest, (and if we can find some basic sponsorship, perhaps at no cost), we would be willing to conduct a basic course at Uni to raise awareness professionally. We will keep you updated as to the details.

Q. What advice would you give to people with disabilities considering/currently studying law?

Simple. To quote the song ‘Tubthumping’, “I get knocked down but I get up again. Aint nothing gonna keep me down”. Before my time, we had the trailblazers who came through and changed a lot of attitudes. In my time, (2005 to 2008) we were still learning, but it was very tolerant and understanding. Don’t expect an easy ride, as once you get out there, it is really difficult. There are not many jobs, and a lot of competition. Concentrate on your strengths, and the Waikato way. ADR is fantastic. I have rarely done a Mediation, but I negotiate frequently. It is part of our professional requirements to resolve issues, and Waikato focusses on this admirably. If your disability is obvious, you can use it to stand out. Make light of it, as no-one likes a grump. It may not be sensitive, but you need that job, so show you are as good as anyone else. Use your disability to stand out and be remembered, as people love a battler and someone who does not moan. I know it is tough, but you are selling yourself, so use anything you can to secure that job! If it is a hidden disability, then unless it affects your job, they need never know. They cannot fire you for having a disability and not declaring it, unless it impacts on your job, and once you have gone in and proved yourself, most people do not care and will accommodate you. If it does affect your job, like mine does, declare it up-front, but sell yourself with it. Asperger’s makes me a better Lawyer as I can think laterally, and find the arguments and cases that others miss. ADHD means that I have the energy to bounce around and get things done. If you are a quiet Aspie type, then perhaps research or academia is more you? If you are extrovert, then perhaps ADR or litigation? If you are like me, with no decent admin skills, and not the greatest memory, but bouncy, energetic and enthusiastic, then criminal may be the best area. Heck. This applies to everyone.

Also, do not give up. If you cannot find work, then speak to other lawyers. Have your CV checked professionally, perhaps by a Tutor, and find out what your seniors think you would be best at in Law. Write to the firms, but not just a standard letter. I may get one a week, and they are generic and grey. You need to stand out whilst being professional. As such, research an HR or Principal contact, and write directly, ideally on paper. Say why their firm is so good and why you want to work for them. Perhaps don’t ask for a job but an internship for a week, month, three months? If you do not hear back after a couple of weeks, follow up by e-mail with a copy of the letter enclosed, along with your CV of course. Play to your strengths, and disability is often a strength. It shows you do not give up, but that you keep going in adversity.

Above all, for all Law Students, I would strongly urge the following.

1 Whilst at University, get legal work or an internship whilst studying if at all possible. Paid is ideal, but even voluntary

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Practicing Law is fun and there are so

many areas suiting so many temperaments. These options suit my personality, but you may want to take a different route. Law

is not a cold hard profession in general,

but one needing compassion and

understanding. This is why, as a Leftie,

my Law friends are across the political

spectrum, as they all show compassion.

Indeed, my Instructing Solicitor used to be

President of WSU, and she is Christian Right.

What she has is the respect and support of the Profession, as she cares, and does

a fantastic job. Party politics does not come into Law, as Justice is blind. As a profession, we represent all with due vim and vigour!

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is a huge help. Not only do you then have access to lawyers to ask the odd question around your studies, but it goes down well for future employers and with NZLS towards experience as a Lawyer. Also, volunteer to help with Law School events. I learned a lot from the Secondary School Mooting Competition for example. Enter into competitions, and step up, both on campus and Nationally.

2 Try for the high grades. I may not believe that A+ students necessarily

make better or worse lawyers, but the vast majority of Law Firms do, as they have no other criteria they can use to distinguish.

3 If you cannot find a Law job when you are done, then perhaps you

need to look at other work with your LL.B. However, if you are determined to become a lawyer, don’t give up. Perhaps you need to offer your services on the Living Wage (okay. I dislike it, but even the Minimum Wage) or free as an Intern? If it is a lawyer working from home like me, don’t let that bug you. Many of the finest Counsel I know are what Dame Bazeley described as “Car Boot Lawyers”. Indeed, to me that means a lawyer who is willing to get to know their clients personally so that they can better represent them.

4 Stick to your ethical values and principals. Some at Auckland

University state that if you are looking for justice, forget doing Law. That I cannot agree with. It is true that the law is not always just. However, our job, as individual lawyers, is to change this. As such, keep the faith!

5 Have fun in practice!

Q. What are your next steps in your career?

That depends.

I am seeking selection as a Candidate for

Parliament with the New Zealand Labour

Party.

Whilst the eternal optimist, it is unlikely that I will succeed on my first attempt in New Zealand. As such, if I do not get selected, or I do not get into Parliament, I will do one of a few things:

1 Lawyers love lists and bullet points for clarity. Get used to it!

2 Stand for Parliament for Labour, either representing an Electorate

geographically, or representing people with disabilities as Mojo Mathers does for the Greens. This is my priority at the moment.

3 Set up the disability workshops for the Profession.

4 I will apply for a position in MFAT at the advice of a friend who works

there, as they ideally require a degree in Law or International Relations, and I have both

5 If that does not succeed, I want to set up ‘virtual’ Chambers where

we can employ and supervise RAMs (Recently Admitted Members. I dislike the term ‘Young Lawyers’ as it is ageist against us oldies who opted for a career change) and others who would not be employed mainstream, so that they can gain the experience needed to progress in their careers in Law. If this succeeds, then I want to move the recruitment process away from grades, and on to practical experience and ability. Why not, instead of looking at grades, if you want a Litigator, conduct a Moot including submissions as part of the interview process? If you want a research lawyer, give them a tricky case to research. If you want a mediator, set up a trial mediation for them to conduct. This shows a better ability and a clearer understanding of the candidate than grades and references.

6 I also want to return to Waikato to finish my L.L.M. That will happen

sooner or later as well.

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A SEMESTER

LAWS562-14A International Trade Law

LAWS569-14A International Law - A place for Indigenous Rights

LAWS570-14A Special Topic: Comparative Environmental Law and Policy

LAWS576-14A The Laws of Armed Conflict and International Humanitarian Law

B SEMESTER

LAWS503-14B Criminology, Criminal Justice Policy and Law

LAWS551-14B Reconciliation, Justice and Indigeneity

LAWS571-14B Special Topic: International Sales and Finance Law

LAWS574-14B Law and Information Technology

C OCCURRENCE

LAWS555-14C Comparative and International Indigenous Rights

Te Piringa – Faculty of Law

LLM AT WAIKATO UNIVERSITY IN 2014

There’s no stopping youE kore e taea te aukati i a koe

A law degree from the University of Waikato ensures our

graduates are prepared for the challenges of a culturally unique

country and increasingly global society. Te Piringa - Faculty of Law

has a modern approach to studying law in its social, cultural and

economic contexts – an essential approach in today’s changing

world.

So whether you want to follow Law through to postgraduate level

or practice it in a specialised field, Te Piringa - Faculty of Law can

put you on the road to success.

Whatever your journey, there’s no better place to start than the

University of Waikato.

Contact Barbara Wallace, Graduate Administrator [email protected] and our website www.waikato.ac.nz/law

Te Piringa - Faculty of Law staff and distinguished guests

A SEMESTER

LAWS562-14A International Trade Law

LAWS569-14A International Law - A place for Indigenous Rights

LAWS570-14A Special Topic: Comparative Environmental Law and Policy

LAWS576-14A The Laws of Armed Conflict and International Humanitarian Law

B SEMESTER

LAWS503-14B Criminology, Criminal Justice Policy and Law

LAWS551-14B Reconciliation, Justice and Indigeneity

LAWS571-14B Special Topic: International Sales and Finance Law

LAWS574-14B Law and Information Technology

C OCCURRENCE

LAWS555-14C Comparative and International Indigenous Rights

Te Piringa – Faculty of Law

LLM AT WAIKATO UNIVERSITY IN 2014

There’s no stopping youE kore e taea te aukati i a koe

A law degree from the University of Waikato ensures our

graduates are prepared for the challenges of a culturally unique

country and increasingly global society. Te Piringa - Faculty of Law

has a modern approach to studying law in its social, cultural and

economic contexts – an essential approach in today’s changing

world.

So whether you want to follow Law through to postgraduate level

or practice it in a specialised field, Te Piringa - Faculty of Law can

put you on the road to success.

Whatever your journey, there’s no better place to start than the

University of Waikato.

Contact Barbara Wallace, Graduate Administrator [email protected] and our website www.waikato.ac.nz/law

Te Piringa - Faculty of Law staff and distinguished guests

A SEMESTER

LAWS562-14A International Trade Law

LAWS569-14A International Law - A place for Indigenous Rights

LAWS570-14A Special Topic: Comparative Environmental Law and Policy

LAWS576-14A The Laws of Armed Conflict and International Humanitarian Law

B SEMESTER

LAWS503-14B Criminology, Criminal Justice Policy and Law

LAWS551-14B Reconciliation, Justice and Indigeneity

LAWS571-14B Special Topic: International Sales and Finance Law

LAWS574-14B Law and Information Technology

C OCCURRENCE

LAWS555-14C Comparative and International Indigenous Rights

Te Piringa – Faculty of Law

LLM AT WAIKATO UNIVERSITY IN 2014

There’s no stopping youE kore e taea te aukati i a koe

A law degree from the University of Waikato ensures our

graduates are prepared for the challenges of a culturally unique

country and increasingly global society. Te Piringa - Faculty of Law

has a modern approach to studying law in its social, cultural and

economic contexts – an essential approach in today’s changing

world.

So whether you want to follow Law through to postgraduate level

or practice it in a specialised field, Te Piringa - Faculty of Law can

put you on the road to success.

Whatever your journey, there’s no better place to start than the

University of Waikato.

Contact Barbara Wallace, Graduate Administrator [email protected] and our website www.waikato.ac.nz/law

Te Piringa - Faculty of Law staff and distinguished guests

A SEMESTER

LAWS562-14A International Trade Law

LAWS569-14A International Law - A place for Indigenous Rights

LAWS570-14A Special Topic: Comparative Environmental Law and Policy

LAWS576-14A The Laws of Armed Conflict and International Humanitarian Law

B SEMESTER

LAWS503-14B Criminology, Criminal Justice Policy and Law

LAWS551-14B Reconciliation, Justice and Indigeneity

LAWS571-14B Special Topic: International Sales and Finance Law

LAWS574-14B Law and Information Technology

C OCCURRENCE

LAWS555-14C Comparative and International Indigenous Rights

Te Piringa – Faculty of Law

LLM AT WAIKATO UNIVERSITY IN 2014

There’s no stopping youE kore e taea te aukati i a koe

A law degree from the University of Waikato ensures our

graduates are prepared for the challenges of a culturally unique

country and increasingly global society. Te Piringa - Faculty of Law

has a modern approach to studying law in its social, cultural and

economic contexts – an essential approach in today’s changing

world.

So whether you want to follow Law through to postgraduate level

or practice it in a specialised field, Te Piringa - Faculty of Law can

put you on the road to success.

Whatever your journey, there’s no better place to start than the

University of Waikato.

Contact Barbara Wallace, Graduate Administrator [email protected] and our website www.waikato.ac.nz/law

Te Piringa - Faculty of Law staff and distinguished guests

A SEMESTER

LAWS562-14A International Trade Law

LAWS569-14A International Law - A place for Indigenous Rights

LAWS570-14A Special Topic: Comparative Environmental Law and Policy

LAWS576-14A The Laws of Armed Conflict and International Humanitarian Law

B SEMESTER

LAWS503-14B Criminology, Criminal Justice Policy and Law

LAWS551-14B Reconciliation, Justice and Indigeneity

LAWS571-14B Special Topic: International Sales and Finance Law

LAWS574-14B Law and Information Technology

C OCCURRENCE

LAWS555-14C Comparative and International Indigenous Rights

Te Piringa – Faculty of Law

LLM AT WAIKATO UNIVERSITY IN 2014

There’s no stopping youE kore e taea te aukati i a koe

A law degree from the University of Waikato ensures our

graduates are prepared for the challenges of a culturally unique

country and increasingly global society. Te Piringa - Faculty of Law

has a modern approach to studying law in its social, cultural and

economic contexts – an essential approach in today’s changing

world.

So whether you want to follow Law through to postgraduate level

or practice it in a specialised field, Te Piringa - Faculty of Law can

put you on the road to success.

Whatever your journey, there’s no better place to start than the

University of Waikato.

Contact Barbara Wallace, Graduate Administrator [email protected] and our website www.waikato.ac.nz/law

Te Piringa - Faculty of Law staff and distinguished guests

A SEMESTER

LAWS562-14A International Trade Law

LAWS569-14A International Law - A place for Indigenous Rights

LAWS570-14A Special Topic: Comparative Environmental Law and Policy

LAWS576-14A The Laws of Armed Conflict and International Humanitarian Law

B SEMESTER

LAWS503-14B Criminology, Criminal Justice Policy and Law

LAWS551-14B Reconciliation, Justice and Indigeneity

LAWS571-14B Special Topic: International Sales and Finance Law

LAWS574-14B Law and Information Technology

C OCCURRENCE

LAWS555-14C Comparative and International Indigenous Rights

Te Piringa – Faculty of Law

LLM AT WAIKATO UNIVERSITY IN 2014

There’s no stopping youE kore e taea te aukati i a koe

A law degree from the University of Waikato ensures our

graduates are prepared for the challenges of a culturally unique

country and increasingly global society. Te Piringa - Faculty of Law

has a modern approach to studying law in its social, cultural and

economic contexts – an essential approach in today’s changing

world.

So whether you want to follow Law through to postgraduate level

or practice it in a specialised field, Te Piringa - Faculty of Law can

put you on the road to success.

Whatever your journey, there’s no better place to start than the

University of Waikato.

Contact Barbara Wallace, Graduate Administrator [email protected] and our website www.waikato.ac.nz/law

Te Piringa - Faculty of Law staff and distinguished guests

A SEMESTER

LAWS562-14A International Trade Law

LAWS569-14A International Law - A place for Indigenous Rights

LAWS570-14A Special Topic: Comparative Environmental Law and Policy

LAWS576-14A The Laws of Armed Conflict and International Humanitarian Law

B SEMESTER

LAWS503-14B Criminology, Criminal Justice Policy and Law

LAWS551-14B Reconciliation, Justice and Indigeneity

LAWS571-14B Special Topic: International Sales and Finance Law

LAWS574-14B Law and Information Technology

C OCCURRENCE

LAWS555-14C Comparative and International Indigenous Rights

Te Piringa – Faculty of Law

LLM AT WAIKATO UNIVERSITY IN 2014

There’s no stopping youE kore e taea te aukati i a koe

A law degree from the University of Waikato ensures our

graduates are prepared for the challenges of a culturally unique

country and increasingly global society. Te Piringa - Faculty of Law

has a modern approach to studying law in its social, cultural and

economic contexts – an essential approach in today’s changing

world.

So whether you want to follow Law through to postgraduate level

or practice it in a specialised field, Te Piringa - Faculty of Law can

put you on the road to success.

Whatever your journey, there’s no better place to start than the

University of Waikato.

Contact Barbara Wallace, Graduate Administrator [email protected] and our website www.waikato.ac.nz/law

Te Piringa - Faculty of Law staff and distinguished guests

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Copenhagen Exchange Experience by Sam Gilling who is a BMS(Hons)/LLB(Hons) student

It was the middle of winter when I arrived in late December. I will admit that it was cold outside, very cold, but the city has a real charm to it that lets you see past the temperature deficit. There were decorations in the streets l eftover from Christmas, people flowing through the many walkways in amongst the shops, and a warm, cozy atmosphere in every building you entered. There were so many things to do, so many things to see and novelties such as ice skating in the middle of the city. I can only imagine that it is the perfect place to have a snowy Christmas.

The university itself did a great job of organising exchange student ‘meet and greet’ events. I met other students in bars, on walking tours, and in pre-semester language classes. Then there were faculty gatherings and other university-wide organised parties. Between the university and your place of residence there is no shortage of opportunities to capitalise on the social elements of an exchange. On top of this the university also organised one-off specialty interest lectures on topics ranging from Danish history to the history of languages to environmental protection. Then further the university organised excursions to Finland and Russia. What I am trying to get across is that it is exceedingly difficult to get bored while studying at KU.

Copenhagen University law school was a great exchange experience and I would advise anyone who has this option available to them to take it.

Want to find out more??? The University of Waikato Faculty of Law has specific agreements with six

Law Faculties. These exchange programmes offer you the opportunity to spend one semester of study to-wards your degree at one of these institutions in your fourth year of study.

Copenhagen Law faculty – Denmark

Belgium Law faculty – Ghent

Germany Law faculty – Munster

Germany Law faculty – Bremen

Canada Law faculty – Ottawa

Chicago Law faculty – Kent

To be eligible you must have completed Year 3 Law and have a B average academic record.

As an exchange student you pay your regular Waikato tuition fees and are able to receive your Studylink loan and allowance

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MARGARET WILSONSTAFF PROFILE

PROFESSOR OF LAW AND PUBLIC POLICY

SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

FOUNDING DEAN - WAIKATO LAW SCHOOL

Margaret WilsonProfessor of Lawand Public Policy

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Q. How does being a student now differ to when you were at university?

When I was a student there was no internal assessment, compulsory tutorials, and a final exam. The Socratic method of teaching was preferred – lecturer asked students questions based on materials that had to be read before class.

This gave you much more freedom in terms of time to discuss ideas and experience life fully. My class at Auckland University was the second or third year the students were full time though some students worked in offices, most of us worked in the holidays only.

Q. Out of the numerous fields (of law) that you have been involved with, why have you chosen to lecture on employment law?

I wrote an Honours Seminar paper on the Arbitration Court and was struck by the relevance of the employment law to the lives of most people. I also wrote my Honours Dissertation on Collective Bargaining and my Master’s thesis on Workers Participation in Management.

My interest was maintained after I conducted many interviews with companies and unions but at that time there was limited opportunity to practice in the area. After two years in a law office I applied for a Junior Lecturer position at the Auckland Law Faculty and was successful.

Established in 1990, The University of Waikato’s

Te Piringa - Faculty of Law was, until recently, the newest law school in New Zealand. Despite this, the Faculty has gone from strength to strength as it has grown, this now being acknowledged on the international stage. In the recent PBRF review (performance based research fund) 21.5% of Law lecturers received an A rating, 10% more than in any other faculty at Waikato. Additionally within the ranks of our staff we have the former Attorney-General and Speaker of Parliament Margaret Wilson, who in 1990 was the founding Dean of the Faculty. The more one learns about its origins, its research results and its founder, the more impressive these achievements become.

Margaret Wilson is a woman of vast experience. Having graduated with her LLB from The University of Auckland, Wilson worked in the private sector before being appointed a Director of the Reserve Bank from 1985-1989. Wilson also lectured in Auckland until 1990 when she moved to the Waikato to serve as the founding Dean of the Waikato Law School, remaining in that role until 1994.

Wilson has also had an illustrious political career, serving as President of the Labour Party from 1984-1987 and Chief Advisor for Prime Minister Geoffrey Palmer. Elected to Parliament in 1999, Wilson served as Attorney-General (1999-2005) and held several other portfolios before being elected New Zealand’s first female Speaker of the House of Representatives. Best known for her role as Speaker, Wilson had a distinctively different style from her predecessor Jonathan Hunt.

Throughout her life, Wilson has been a supporter of many feminist causes and was a founding member of the Women Lawyers Association. Additionally, Wilson was a strong supporter of multiculturalism in policy and has been branded as one of Labour’s most radical ministers, regardless her role in setting up the Supreme Court and revising relationship property law indicates she had a successful and active political career.

After leaving Parliament in 2008, Wilson returned to Waikato University becoming a Professor of Law and Public Policy.

Question Time with Margaret

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Q. What was your role in establishing Te Piringa - Faculty of Law?

I was appointed by the University of Waikato in 1990 to the position of Foundation Dean of the new Law School. This position involved writing and getting approval from the Council of Education for the curriculum, recruiting staff, interviewing students, and defending the position of the Law School when a change of government saw the removal of funding for the Law School.

Q. How do you feel the legal professions attitude towards women has changed in your time?

The attitude towards women has changed. I was one of 6 or 7 woman students in a class of about 200. Because it was not common to see women lawyers in practice you were often challenged to prove you were qualified. As I recall, the Magistrates (now District Court Judges) and the High Court judges were helpful once you had established your qualifications.

I also had a very helpful employer who supported me through my training in practice. I had started, with Pauline Tapp, the first Women and the Law course and students in that course conducted the first research into the discrimination against women in law practice.

This research was continued on through their presence in the Auckland District Law Society so it is possible to map the gradual acceptance of women in the practice of law. While discrimination still exists the main problem is the way the practice of law is structured which makes it difficult for women to combine the practice of law with the caring and rearing of children.

Q. Many students remember you as the Speaker of Parliament during the third term of the 5th Labour government, how did your style differ from predecessor Jonathan Hunt to successor Lockwood Smith?

When I was Speaker I introduced the practice for giving reasons for my rulings when made in the House. Much of my time as Speaker was spent reviewing the administration of the Parliament and

introducing more transparent practices and policies, such as televising all Parliamentary sessions.

Q. As Attorney General from 1999-2005 what was your role in setting up the NZ Supreme Court?

I was the Minister responsible for the drafting of the Supreme Court Act and the political management of the legislation through the various parliamentary stages.

Q. With such a diverse range of experiences behind you, what advice would you give aspiring young professionals?

It is always dangerous for one generation to advise another but my experience has taught me you need to be prepared to work hard to get a thorough knowledge of your brief whether it be legal or political.

You must also be prepared to trust your judgment, make decisions and give advice even if it is not what your client/colleagues do not want to hear. That is the essence of professionalism. This may mean you will be subject to criticism but if you have done your work and acted in good faith and live long enough you will find that often you were right in your advice/judgement.

Q. With so many people graduating with an LLB, what do students need to do to get a job practicing law?

To get a job you need a good degree, have developed networks, and be flexible, that is, prepared to accept employment even if it is not exactly what you want because it can lead you where you want to go. However you should not allow yourself to be exploited.

Zanian Steele

Prima Facie thanks Margaret for her interesting and informative contribution to this years issue.

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In office3 March 2005

to8 November 2008

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for Labour Party listIn office

27 November 1999to

3 October 2008

Personal DetailsBorn 20 May 1947

Gisborne, New Zealand

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WULSA EVENTSMentoring Evening

The Kensington Swan Mentoring evening is the first big event of the year for law students. The evening is a forum for mentees and mentors to meet for the first time

over drinks and nibbles. It is a fantastic occasion that facilitates networking between students, staff and practitioners in a semi-formal setting. The event is held annually at the Gallagher Performing Arts Center with the University’s lakefront providing the perfect setting for a night of mingling. This event is a must-go for all first year law students if they want to get ahead with their studies.

Cheers and Careers

This IPLS sponsored event attracts many students with its impressive speaker list and engaging format. Presenters range from Judges to Crown Prosecutors to

In-House-Lawyers who all give a fascinating insight into life after law school in a variety of different fields. Students have the opportunity to talk one on one with speakers in the latter part of the evening and gain invaluable knowledge on how to reach these high levels of employment.

Log o’ Wood

The Log o’ Wood Competition is the annual sports exchange between the Waikato and Auckland law schools. The day begins with 100+ eager Auckland students

manning a plethora of vehicles bearing down upon the Waikato University campus. The sports start in the university gym where teams square off in hotly contested games of basketball, netball and dodge ball. After a brief interlude the competition resumes on the university fields where participants compete in the traditional events of soccer and touch. This heated contest is only interrupted to devour the plentiful sausages and beer, free to all the students both competing and supporting. Once everyone is rested the fun continues at The Cook where plenty of food and drink will be made available and the trophy is presented to the winning team. For those brave ones who venture further the festivities continue at Agenda Restaurant and Night Club who have been kind enough to make themselves available for plenty of rowdy students for the night. This year the competition takes place on the 11th of April and is looking like the best yet. This is not one to miss.

Social Events

WULSA provides many social events throughout the year for students to get away from their studies, relax, and have an excessive amount of fun. These events are

a great chance to get involved with the law school, meet other law students, and find new friends for an awesome student life. The first event that WULSA will run will be the ‘Meet the Dean’ BBQ, which will be held on the 10th March during Law O’Week and then the Agenda party on the 13th. Throughout the year we also hold a couple of Law Steins as a chance to take a break from your studies. There are drink deals offered at the Steins so you can relax and forget about your studies without having to spend your entire overdraft.

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TOMPKINS WAKE LAW BALL

2013 Theme - Venetian Masquerade

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PRESIDENTSFROM THE PAST

ASHIQ HAMID What do Ashiq Hamid, Ben Gilbert and Mohammad Alobaidi all have in common? Each of these three young men recently completed an LLB at the University of Waikato. All three were President of the Waikato University Law Students’ Association in their time. They were all hard working, successful students and embody the charisma and drive that epitomises the Waikato law faculty, staff, students and alumni.

However, their paths since university that have led them where they are today have been diverse and highlight the broad range of opportunities available to law students as they leave the snug comfort of our “temporary” law building. Each of them has been asked to reflect on what led them to where they are today and what advice they would give the next generation of Waikato graduates.

BEN GILBERT

MOHAMMAD AL OBAIDI

ASHIQ HAMID

I attended Saint Kentigern College in Auckland and then enrolled for a Bachelor of Science at the University of

Melbourne in Australia in 2004. At the end of 2006, I wanted to do something other than science and thought about law. I enrolled in my first year of law at the University of Auckland, but due to some rule changes, I wasn’t admitted to Part 2 law. At that point I thought I’d continue with law and so came down to the University of Waikato and enrolled for an LLB (turned out to be the best decision of my life).

Since September 2012, I have been employed at the New Zealand Takeovers Panel as a lawyer regulating the capital markets, a job I enjoy very much.My strategy was to do the best I could do in my subjects and in law school competitions. I was fortunate to take away a few scholarships and class prizes along the way. In addition, in order to stand out, I decided to run for WULSA as education officer in 2009/2010 and after making a name for myself, I ran for the presidency of WULSA. My year as the President was one of the best of my life and in addition to all the people I met and things we started, WULSA won its first Club of the Year award in 2011. There are lots of opportunities if you do well in law combined with extra-curricular activities. If I could go back to Law School, one thing I would have done was try to publish an article in a journal or work as a student editor on the Waikato Law Review.

I didn’t manage to pick up a clerkship during my time at Law School. However, I did manage to pick up two interesting

clerkships which in hindsight have put me in good stead for the next stage of my career, doing my Masters overseas. In 2009, I was selected as a research assistant at the Australia National University Law School to work with a notable academic in the area of human rights law over summer. In 2010, I was selected as a judge’s clerk at the Sri Lankan Supreme Court for a period of four months and

at a significant time in Sri Lanka’s history. My first job was as a law clerk at Chen Palmer in Wellington in 2011, a week after I finished university. I secured the role after meeting an associate at a birthday party on a boat in the Auckland Harbour. We got along well and she asked me to send my CV to her the next day. I had an interview by Monday and secured the role by the end of the week.

If you are looking for a job, my best advice is to network effectively, be sociable and

you may stumble upon a unique opportunity. In 2009, when I was selected as a research assistant, I got in touch with my prospective academic during the selection process and introduced myself. In 2010, as a judge’s clerk, I had to convince a Supreme Court judge that I could add value to his judgments on the phone and offered to do it for free. I nearly sprung another opportunity to intern for a prominent United States congressman when I ran into him in Australia.I took my current job after my experience in Sri Lanka in 2010. I worked with a judge who sat on the advisory panel on Sri Lanka’s Securities Commission. In 2010, the Securities Commission were in the process of amending the Sri Lankan Takeovers Code and I had an opportunity

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to contribute to that review. When an opportunity to work at the New Zealand Takeovers Panel came up, I decided to apply. My job is quite varied and gives me a very unique insight into New Zealand’s largest business deals. Regulating the biggest deals in the country is a good way to pick up and use corporate law concepts. I hope to continue in this field or cross it with commercial litigation.

Wellington is a great city to be a young professional. There are heaps of things to do in the week and on the weekends. There are organisations which host free seminars and there are usually a few interesting protests to watch or join round Parliament. Later this year, my plan is to do my Masters at the University of Cambridge and concurrently travel Europe.

Ben Gilbert

I’m a Waikato lad born and bred. I completed all of my schooling in Hamilton

before jetting to England for a GAP year. I love watching rugby but am terrible at playing it, and enjoy playing football/soccer but can’t stand watching it. I am also an unwavering (and usually disappointed) fan of the Black Caps.

I started my life at Waikato not really sure what I wanted to do (and having to make a decision relatively quickly because I didn’t plan ahead for university while I was in England). I did alright at English and Economics at high school so a conjoint LLB/BMS sounded perfect. Initially I planned to concentrate more heavily on the business side, with a law degree sitting as a weighty CV filler, but after second year realised I had a greater passion for law (or, maybe it was a greater passion for law events…). I particularly enjoyed the later years of law training when I could pick the papers that aligned with my business focus (Corp Ent, Com Trans, IP, Transnational Business etc.) many of which were crucial when it came time for me to apply to the commercial law firms.

I am now in my third year as a corporate solicitor at Chapman Tripp in the Auckland office.

Honestly, I spent most of the first couple of years enjoying my university experience rather than spending every afternoon

locked in a law lab studying the course materials. Employers generally know that law students are capable academics, so they want to see something extra. In my case that was being on WULSA, entering law competitions, having varied part-time jobs and overseas/life experience etc. And of course it was crucial that, applying for corporate law positions, I had a corporate focus with my papers. Everyone has something that helps them stand out (music, sport, stamp collection), it’s more about how you present those strengths in applications and interviews than about the number of A+ you get (but don’t take that as carte blanche to discard study completely!)

I took what is generally seen as the traditional route to working in an Auckland firm (although it is not as common at Te Piringa as it is at the other law schools). I initially applied for internships at the “Big 8” in my third year (and didn’t get a single interview). So I spent the summer running the lease on a school pool (great CV booster, and a summer job in the sun!). I applied again the following year with a more relaxed approach to my cover letter (HR teams get sick of reading stilted letters that essentially repeat what’s in your CV). I was lucky enough to get a summer clerk position, so spent 8 weeks at the end of fourth year at Chapman Tripp rotating through the Finance and Corporate teams.

Thankfully, I didn’t screw up and was offered a grad position once I finished my final year. So here I am.

My work at Chapman Tripp is extremely varied, ranging from writing terms and conditions for “Enter and Win” competitions, advising on the intellectual property aspects of M&A (merger and acquisition) deals, reviewing contracts for SOE floats, negotiating small-scale deals for Telecom, the list goes on. I love it.

It’s funny, I expected that my law degree would hold me in good stead as I entered the profession. And to a certain extent that’s true… I know how to think like a lawyer, I know how to research etc. But the most common (and precious) tool a corporate lawyer can employ is pragmatism.

Clients don’t want to know case law, they don’t care about the exception to the rule and they certainly don’t want you to tell them “sorry that’s impossible”. In almost every request for work, a client will tell you “this is what I want, tell me how I can get it”, and they will expect an answer in the first 5 lines of your email response. So unfortunately, those 3,000 word essays on the dissenting judgment are, on a day-to-day level, irrelevant. I’m certainly not advising a revolt against Te Piringa hegemon. But if you want a job in a corporate firm, it’s worthwhile to analyse issues from a results-driven perspective, and to remember that memorising the material facts of a case will help you get through an exam but won’t mean much at all for your job in a law firm (unless of course, you choose litigation… but I’m not qualified to speak of that glorious pursuit).I still feel too young to be looking beyond a 5 year plan. On the near horizon is a holiday trip to Vietnam and Cambodia, and hopefully having enough coin to see the ABs win another RWC in London next year.

At this stage I am looking to continue practicing in New Zealand for the next few years. Although the pay here doesn’t compare to corporate solicitor cheques overseas, I think that on balance the pay and the hours make NZ one of the best places to work. I earn a comfortable living and seldom work later than 6:30. Compare this to London, New York or Tokyo (where I have friends working) and they earn big money and have literally no time to spend it (I’m talking an average home time of 11 pm). Personally I’d rather have the time to spend less on sharing a BBQ and beers with mates than shelling out a large salary on cocktails for clients. I understand (esp. after watching Wolf of Wall Street) why others prefer the high life.

If anyone studying at Waikato wants to get in touch, feel free to email me: [email protected].

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Mohammad Al Obaidi

I grew up in Auckland, but love Hamilton. I am a big fan of rugby and I watch a bit of tennis every now and then. I’m into cars, but

not the boy-racer type. I spend much of my time socialising with, and meeting new, people. I’ve spent a bit of time overseas over the years which taught me a lot about cultures and people.

I completed a Bachelor of Law conjoint with Bachelor of Business Studies (Acct.). I found both degrees enjoyable and intellectually stimulating.

I very much enjoyed my time at Waikato. I had the privilege of meeting many amazing people and forged enduring friendships. Publishing the very first issue of this magazine is one of the highlights of my time as president of WULSA. Committee members worked tirelessly to make the project a reality, and it is something I look back on fondly.

While at Waikato, I took part, and enjoyed participating, in various competitions. The feedback I received was invaluable. Winning the Buddle Findlay Negotiation competition provided me the opportunity to represent the University nationally and in Australia.

I spent one summer shadowing and assisting a Barrister specialising in criminal law. I also summer interned at KPMG. Both opportunities presented unique and fascinating challenges.

I currently work as an Employment Relations Advisor; I advise and act for clients in a wide range of employment law matters. I also handle various disputes, represent clients at mediations, and prepare for Employment Relations Authority Investigations.

Everyone has a unique brand and it’s important to focus on the things that set you apart. I think it is essential for students to network and take part in extracurricular activities.

I went to various events hosted by Te Piringa - Faculty of Law, and WULSA through which I met various lawyers and other professionals. This helped me learn more about legal practice and

the type of careers law graduates are able to pursue.

Having a part-time job or doing volunteering work can also be beneficial. This can help you gain important skills which, incidentally, may be the type of skills recruiters look for.

Students should approach the university’s careers office. They provide general advice and guidance. They can also help with CVs, covering letters, and preparation for interviews.

Students should pursue internships and clerkships throughout their time at university. You may obtain information about what internships and clerkships are on offer from Faculty staff, WULSA, and the university’s careers office.

Through my current role, I give advice on redundancies, disciplining for misconduct, holidays and leave, and restraints of trade. I also regularly handle disputes arising out, or in the course, of the employment relationship. Clients are always looking for pragmatic advice at a relatively fast pace. They often come to me with a specific question and want a quick answer.

Over the past year, I had the opportunity to represent clients at mediations. Briefly, Mediation is a form of negotiation, or discussion, facilitated by a third party - the mediator. Mediations intend to help the parties in identifying the issues and reaching a resolution.

I quite enjoyed doing Employment Law at university; I remember reading about some of the leading decisions with a keen eye, which was one of the factors that attracted me to this role.

One of the best things about my job is that no two days are the same, and I always find myself facing interesting challenges. I don’t have any set plans yet, my current focus is on gaining as much experience as possible. I may consider doing my LLM at some point in the future.

I wish you all the very best for your future endeavours. Keep at it, and remember to enjoy your time!

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Minter Ellison Rudd Watts Witness Examination

WinnerChristine Dent

FinalistMoria Pereyaslavets

Bell Gully Senior MootingWinner

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Chloe DomettFinalists

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Russell McVeaghClient Interviewing

WinnersRochelle Monk and Natalie Foster

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The competitions offered at Te Piringa are extensive: there is Client Interviewing,

Negotiations, Mooting, Witness Examination, and Sentencing.

The competitions are a very good thing to get involved with for a number a reasons, but we believe we can convince you to do these competitions by merely giving you three reasons:

1. The competitions are a lot of fun – you get to meet and make friends with people doing your degree; you get to be exposed to interesting (and funny) topics that the competition is on; and you get to take the law and theory you learn in class and put it in a practical form, like a lawyer in the real world!

2. The competitions give opportunities – if you are successful you can represent the University on a national and international level which, as you see in our ALSA/NZLSA reports below, is amazing; you get the opportunity to meet friends and have fun; and you have an increased job opportunity by making your CV stand out from others by merely giving it a go!

3. You have nothing to lose! The experience makes friends; upskills you; and gives you practice for your assessments that you do in your study! (#A+ Assessment)

Yes it is a win all round! So get involved with the competitions that are offered and it will help make your law degree even better than it already is!

OPPORTUNITY 1ALSA COMPETITION - PERTH

JULY 2013In July 2013 a Waikato Team went to Perth to compete in an array of Law Competitions – Client Interviewing; Negotiation; Witness Examination; and Moots.

For the competitons, each preliminary round consisted of three different scenarios which, as a mooter, meant a large quantity of research in Australian Law was required – a challenge! The quarter, semi and Finals for each competition allowed viewers which was a very informative and interesting experience as we saw top competitors using different techniques as well as being exposed to the

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Mohammad Al ObaidiSimon Buckingham

David Dela RueChloe Domett Arno ElsingBen Gilbert

Ashiq Hamid Grace JamesMatthew Kidd

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questions and reasoning of very distinguished judges. The highlight was watching our Waikato Negotiation Team in the Finals!

It wasn’t all competitions, there were a variety of workshops and lectures, of which a variety of topics were discussed by experienced speakers from all fields. It was fantastic! Highlights of these educational events include: Twilight Drinks, a free food/drink networking exercise; ‘Successful Clerkships’ workshop; seminars on ‘Broadening Horizons’: including remedying poverty and disadvantage, the justification to admit (or not) asylum seekers, an international law field forum; and an inspiring Closing Gala speech by Chief Justice French.

The social aspect of the conference was the icing on the cake – not only because after living with the Waikato Team for the week we were like family and enjoyed partying together, but also the array of events ALSA put on. Located in beautiful Perth locations, the Waikato Team made friends from Australia, New Zealand, Singapore, Malaysia and Belgium while being wined and dined; provided with dance floors to dance the night away; and given party buses to move us around! What an experience!

OPPORTUNITY 2NZLSA COMPETITION

AUGUST 2013NZLSA, held in Christchurch, was another amazing experience for our competitors. This time we added the Junior Mooters to the well-knit team which added to the Waikato fun!

The competition consisted of four preliminary rounds in order for us all to compete against every other New Zealand university – this was a great experience as it allowed everyone to see the different techniques, skills, and arguments universities were using. Furthermore, we were all able to attend the Finals for the different competitions which was exciting and informative to see.Not only did we have the serious competitions, but we were also wined and dined on the top of the gondola for a cocktail evening; danced the night away on a party bus crawl; had a spectacular gala evening; and even went for a double-decker bus tour of Christchurch city!

All in all it was another great experience – full of exposure to other competitors in our field, dancing, and lots and lots of laughs!

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