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¶2.(SBU)ususretimasa

predsednikomTadicemidrugim

zvaničnicimaVladeSrbiJe16.oktobra,

ambasadorazapitanjaratnihzločina

StivenRappdobilinaJnoviJe

informaciJeopotraziza

Međunarodnimkrivičnimsudomza

bivšuJugoslaviJu(MKSJ)begunci

RatkoMladiciGoranHadžiciistakao

značaJodnjihhvatanje,nudeci

američkepomoci.OnJetakođe

razgovaraliodomacimsuđenjimaza

ratnezločinesrbiJeisaradnjesa

regionalnimsusedima.Srpski

zvaničniciJasnostaviodoznanjadase

ambasadorRappsvoJuposvecenost

pronalaženjubegunaca,alisu

izbegavaliambasadorRappPredlogda

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zločine.Obestranesusesložilina

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saradnjazaratnezločine.KraJPregled.

SUBJECT: SERBIA: WAR CRIMESAMBASSADOR RAPP HIGHLIGHTSIMPORTANCEOF

CATCHING RATKO MLADIC/GORANHADZICBELGRADE00001222001.2OF003¶1. (U) Ambassador Rapp has clearedthiscable.Summary-------

¶2. (SBU) In meetings with PresidentTadic and other Serbian governmentofficials on October 16, Ambassador atLarge for War Crimes Issues StephenRappreceivedupdatesonthesearchforInternational Criminal Tribunal for theFormer Yugoslavia (ICTY) fugitives

Ratko Mladic and Goran Hadzic andhighlighted the importance of capturingthem, offering U.S. assistance. He alsodiscussed domestic Serbian war crimestrials and cooperation with regionalneighbors.Serbianofficialsmadeitclearto AmbassadorRapp their commitmenttofindingthefugitives,buttheyavoidedAmbassadorRapp’ssuggestionthattheytake up the challenge of influencingpublic opinion about the need for warcrimes trials. Both sides agreed on theclear need for increased regional warcrimescooperation.EndSummary.U.S. Message: Capturing FugitivesEssential--------------------------------------------



SADporuka:BegunciOsnovni

Capturing

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¶3.(U)ambasadorRappsastaosesa

predsednikomSrbiJeBorisom

Tadicem,NacionalnogsavetaSrbiJeza

saradnjusaMeđunarodnimkrivičnim

sudomzabivšuJugoslaviJu(MKSJ),

predsednikRasimLjaJic,tužilacza

ratnezločineVladimirVukčevic,zaratnezločineSpeciJalnogsudaSiniša

Važic,izaratnezločineIstrageServis

GlavniAleksandarKosticuBeogradu

16.oktobra.

¶4.(SBU)ambasadorRappJeistakao

dasvesagovornikedaJesaradnjasa

Haškimtribunalom,posebnopredaJepreostaledvoJicebegunaca,Ratka

MladicaiGoranaHadžicaidaljeod

suštinskevažnosti.OnJedodaoda,

iakocedatisvoJuprocenuSrbiJa

naporedaseBramerc,hapšenje

MladicaJekraJnjerešenjezaizradu

napredakupridruživanjuEU.

AmbasadorJepreniospremnostVladeSADdapomogneSrbiJaninakoJi

načinJetomoguce,ukazuJucina

nedavnozavršeniFBI-procene,kao

znakposvecenostiVladeSAD.

AmbasadorRapppredložiomožda

postoJidruginačinSJedinjeneDržave

mogupomoci,kaoštoJepracenje

finansiJskepodrškeMladicu.

¶3. (U) Ambassador Rapp met withSerbian President Boris Tadic, SerbianNational Council for Cooperation withthe International Criminal Tribunal fortheFormerYugoslavia (ICTY) ChairmanRasim Ljajic, War Crimes ProsecutorVladimir Vukcevic, War Crimes Special

Court President Sinisa Vazic, and WarCrimes Investigations Service ChiefAleksandar Kostic in Belgrade onOctober16.¶4.(SBU)AmbassadorRappemphasizedto all of his interlocutors that

cooperationwiththeICTY,inparticularhanding over the remaining twofugitives,RatkoMladicandGoranHadzicremainedessential.HeaddedthatwhilehewouldgivehisassessmentofSerbia’sefforts to Brammertz, capturing Mladicwas the ultimate solution to makingprogress on EU accession. TheAmbassador also conveyed the USG’swillingness to help Serbia in any way

possible, pointing to the recentlycompleted FBI assessment as a sign ofUSG commitment. Ambassador RappsuggestedtheremightbeotherwaystheUnitedStatescouldhelp,suchastrackingfinancialsupporttoMladic.TadicMeeting-------------



SastanakTadic

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¶5.(SBU)PredsednikTadicizJavioJe

ambasadorRappdaonikoJisuse

skrivaliceMladicvezesa

organizovanimkriminalomibogatstva

semogupripisati'90'sratnog

profiterstva.TadicZatoJebio

oduševljensaradnjomnjegov

obaveštaJnihslužbisaSADzaborbuprotivdrogeagenciJauposlednjih

snimanjeod2,8tonakokainaublizini

obaleUrugvaJ

(http://vvv.b92.net/eng/nevs/crimes-

article.pHP?iiii=2009&mm=10&

dd=19&nav_id=62454).Ovo

oduzimanjeceotvoritivratado

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iuCrnaGoraiBosnaiHercegovina,

rekaoJeon,amoždaiShakedrvece

elementimaorganizovanogkriminala

koJisuuključeniuzaštitiMladica.

TadicJerekaodasenadadasepoveca

iproširiameričkeobaveštaJnei

bezbednosnevezekakodaoJačaulogaSrbiJakaostubstabilnostiuregionu.

¶6.(SBU)uvezisanedavnimFBI-

procene,TadicJezahvalio

ambasadoruRappiVladeSADza

pružanjepomociirekaodaJeSrbiJa

veomadobrodošlapomoc.TadicJe

izrazionezadovoljstvoholandskistav

¶5. (SBU) President Tadic toldAmbassadorRappthatthosewholikelywere hiding Mladic had links toorganizedcrimeandwealthattributableto ‘90’s wartime profiteering. Tadictherefore was enthusiastic about hisintelligence services’ cooperation withtheU.S.DrugEnforcementAgencyintherecentcaptureof2.8tonsofcocaineoff

the coast of Uruguay(http://www.b92.net/eng/news/crimes-article.p hp?yyyy=2009&mm=10&dd=19&nav_id=62454). This seizure wouldopenthedoortoarrestsofanumberoforganizedcrimefiguresinSerbia,aswellas in Montenegro and Bosnia-Herzegovina,hesaid,andperhapsshakethe trees of the organized crimeelementsinvolvedwithshieldingMladic.

Tadic said he hoped to increase andexpand U.S. intelligence and securitylinksinordertobolsterSerbia’sroleasapillarofstabilityintheregion.

¶6. (SBU) Referring to the recent FBIassessment, Tadic thanked AmbassadorRapp and the USG for offering theassistance and said Serbia very muchwelcomed thehelp.Tadicexpressedhisfrustration with the Dutch position on

blocking Serbian accession to the EUuntil Mladic and Hadzic were



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dokMladiciHadžicbiliuhapšenii

predati

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pristupanjaEUidokholandskiblok

nas,onisudodavanjemmuniciJe

opoziciJe,odnosnoSrpskenapredne

stranke."TadicJerekaodaJebio

frustriransaulogomsvogbivšeg

premiJeraVoJislavaKoštuniceDemokratskastrankaSrbiJa(DSS)Je

igraouskrivanjeinformaciJao

MladicuodTadica."VeruJemdasu

prekršilinašzakon,"rekaoJeon,"i

kadaMladicbudeuhvacen,micemo

dokazatida."SumiraJucirezultate,

rekaoJeTadic,"Miračunamona

SJedinjeneDržavedanampomogne."

¶7.(SBU)Uodgovoruambasador

RappJerekaodasumnjaholandski

stavcesepromeniti,bezhapšenja

Mladica.OnJeohrabriopredsednika

daukaženaatmosferskesmetnjeu

okruženjuSrbiJaiMladicazaratne

zločineucelini."TrebadaizađuporukudaJesuddobra,ičlanovivlade

trebadasapoštovanjemgovoreo

instituciJe."

BegunacHant

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¶8.(SBU)Ostalisrpskizvaničnicirekli

apprehendedandturnedoverBELGRADE00001222002.2OF003toTheHague.“MypeoplearestartingtoaskmewhatIhavedeliveredintermsofEU accession and as long as the Dutchblock us, they are adding to theammunition of the opposition, i.e., theSerbianProgressiveParty.”Tadicsaidhealso was frustrated with the role hisformer Prime Minister VojislavKostunica’s Democratic Party of Serbia(DSS) had played in hiding informationaboutMladicfromTadic.“Ibelievetheyhave violated our law,” he said, “and

when Mladic is caught, we will provethat.” Summing up, Tadic said, “we arecountingontheUnitedStatestohelpus.”

¶7.(SBU)InresponseAmbassadorRappsaid he doubted the Dutch positionwould change without the capture ofMladic. He encouraged thepresident toemphasize the atmospherics in SerbiasurroundingMladicand the war crimestribunalingeneral.“Youneedtogetout

themessagethatthecourtisgood,andmembers of the government need tospeakrespectfullyoftheinstitution.”FugitiveHunt-------------

¶8. (SBU) Other Serbian officials toldAmbassador Rapp that it was the



ambasadorRappdaJeprioritetVlade

daisporučidvepreostalebegunce

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bolnopoglavljeistoriJeSrbiJaJe.

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PredsJedavaJuciLjaJicidrugitražili

pomocVladeSADubedljivuHolandiJe

uSrbiJanapore.LjaJicJerekaodaJe

vladabilauteškompoložaJu,bez

podrškezasaradnjomsHaškim

tribunalommeđuJavnostikoJisuto

videlikaosamododatniuslovzapristupanjeEU,onoštoJeopisaokao

"ogromanmeđunarodnipritisak"

otežalodaobJasnipotrebuzasaradnju

uJavnosti.LjaJicJerekaoambasador

RappJevažnodavlastinegovore

protivodlukeHaškogtribunala,Jer

takoposlaopogrešnuporuku.LjaJicJe

rekaoTribunalaJebioveomanepopularaniizdaomnogočudnih

odluka,kaoštoJenaizgleddodatne

surovekaznezaSrbe,kaoštosuLukic,

madaJepristaoporukamorabiti

uravnotežen.LjaJicJedodaodao

drugimpitanjimasaradnjesaHaškim

tribunalom,SrbiJaJeispunjavasve

zahtevezasvedokasudskepozive,zaštitasvedoka,kaoiarhivupristup.

¶9.(SBU)Uprkosmnogimizazovima,

odgovorniAkcionogtimazahapšenje

MladicaiHadžicabibitiuspešanzbog

svoJihnapora,zvaničnicirekli

ambasadorRapp.Teškocesugodine

koJeJeprošloodbivševladeimali

government’sprioritytodeliverthetworemaining fugitives to The HagueTribunal and thus close this painfulchapter of Serbia’s history. ICTYCooperation Chair Ljajic and othersaskedforUSGassistanceconvincingtheDutchofSerbia’sefforts.Ljajicsaidthatthe government was in a difficultposition, with no support for ICTYcooperationamongapublicwhichsawitas simply an extra condition for EUaccession; what he described as“enormousinternationalpressure”madeit more difficult to explain the need for

cooperation to the public. AmbassadorRapp told Ljajic it was important thatgovernment officials not speak outagainst the ICTY’s decisions, becausedoingsosentthewrongmessage.Ljajicsaid the ICTY was very unpopular andhadissuedmanystrangedecisions,suchas seemingly extra harsh sentences forSerbssuchasLukic,althoughheagreedthe message had to be balanced. Ljajic

added that on other issues of ICTYcooperation, Serbia was fulfilling allrequestsforwitnesssubpoenas,witnessprotection,andarchiveaccess.

¶9. (SBU) Despite many challenges, theAction Team responsible for capturingMladic and Hadzic would be successfulbecause of its efforts, officials toldAmbassador Rapp. Difficulties includedthe years that had passed since the

former government had had goodinformation on the fugitives’



dobreinformaciJeokretanjubegunaca

u2006,verovatnocadasuoboJica

imalimenjasvoJizgledidasu

koristecilažneidentitete,velikibroJ

beskorisnihsavetapozvaoupoliciJida

Jemoraodatrebaistražiti,teškoce

pracenjekakobegunacakomunicirao

saporodicom,ifinansiJskupodršku,u

skladusaratnezločinepoliciJeglavu

Kosticitužiocazaratnezločine

Vukčevic.KosticJeprimetioda

RadovanKaradžicJeličnopodržavasamo450evramesečnoneposredno

prenjegovoghapšenjau2008.LjaJicJe

rekaoAkcionitimJeobratiozapomoc

RusiJiinabegunce,JerniJebilo

dokazadasuputovaliilirazmatra

putuJuuRusiJu.

Suđenjimazaratnezločine--------------------------

¶10.(SBU)ambasadorRapp

sagovornikatakođeistakaouspeheza

ratnezločineSrbiJasuđenjauratne

zločineRepublikeSrbiJeSpeciJalnog

suda.Svionisuizrazilizahvalnostza

snažnuistalnupodrškuVladeSADdasudipoliciJazaistraživanjeratnih

zločinaservis.AmbasadorRapp

istakaovažnostsuđenjapreddomacim

sudovima,štoolakšavapomirenja.

KosticJerekaodadomacasuđenjaJe

biovažanupomaganjusrpskoJ

JavnostishvatedasuSrbipočinili

ratnezločine,anesamobiližrtveod

whereaboutsin2006,thelikelihoodthatboth had altered their appearance andwere using false identities, the vastnumber of useless tips called into thepolice that had to be investigated,difficulties tracking how the fugitivescommunicatedwithfamily,andfinancialsupport,accordingtowarcrimespolicehead Kostic andwar crimes prosecutorVukcevic. Kostic noted that RadovanKaradzic had been supporting himselfwith only 450 Euros a monthimmediatelypriortohisapprehensionin2008. Ljajic said the Action Team had

approached Russia for help on bothfugitives, since therewasevidence theyhad travelled to or contemplated traveltoRussia.

DomesticWarCrimesTrials--------------------------¶10. (SBU) Ambassador Rapp’sinterlocutorsalsonotedthesuccessesofSerbia’sdomesticwarcrimestrialsintheSerbianWarCrimesSpecialCourt.TheyallexpressedthanksfortheUSG’sstrongandcontinuingsupporttothecourtand

the police War Crimes InvestigationService. Ambassador Rapp noted theimportance of having trials in nationalcourts, which facilitated reconciliation.Kosticsaidthedomestictrialshadbeenimportant in helping the Serbian publicunderstand that Serbs had committedwarcrimesandnotjustbeenvictimsofthem.AmbassadorRapptoldJudgeVaziche was concerned that the Supreme

Court had overturned many of theSpecial Court’s convictions. Vazic noted



njih.AmbasadorRappJesudiJaVažic

JebiozabrinutdaJeVrhovnisud

poništiomnogeodSpeciJalnogsuda

uverenja.VažicJeprimetiodasudiJa

Vrhovnogsuda

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nedostaJalaspeciJalizovanuobukuza

razumevanjepredmetaratnihzločina.

Premaodredbamazareformu

pravosuđapaket(Ref),Žalbenosudovi

bičutizaratnezločinežalbiionih

sudiJecebitipotrebnodadobiJuobuku,štorezultiraboljimrezultatima

žalbi.AmbasadorRapppitaoVukčevic

ooslobađaJucepresudeuBitici

suđenjuzaubistvotroJicebrace

američkidržavljanin(refBiH).

VukčevicJerekaodanjegova

kancelariJaceuložitižalbuna

oslobađaJucepresude.IoniKosticistakaoteškocepoliciJusa

informaciJamaopredmetuza

razgovor.

Regionalnasaradnja

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¶11.(SBU)RegionalnasaradnjazaratnezločineJemešovitog,zvaničnici

rekliambasadorRapp.IakoJeKostic

rekaoJesaradnjusaEULEKS-om,

hrvatskepoliciJeiobaveštaJneslužbe

bosanskihpomogaoprikupljadokaze

ohaškimbeguncima,LjaJicJerekao

mesečnesastankesaregionalnim

obavJeštaJnimagenciJamavišenisu

thatSupremeCourtjudgesBELGRADE00001222003.2OF003lacked the specialized training tounderstand war crimes cases. Underprovisionsofthejudicialreformpackage(Ref A), the Appeals Courts would hearwar crimes appeals and those judgeswould be required to obtain training,resulting in better appeals outcomes.AmbassadorRappaskedVukcevicaboutthe acquittals in the Bytyqi trial forkillings of three American citizenbrothers(RefB).Vukcevicsaidhisofficewouldappealtheacquittals.Bothheand

Kostic noted the difficulties gettingpolice with information on the case totalk.

RegionalCooperation--------------------

¶11.(SBU)Regionalcooperationonwarcrimes was mixed, officials toldAmbassador Rapp. While Kostic saidcooperation with EULEX, the Croatianpolice,andBosnianintelligenceserviceshadhelpedcollectevidenceontheICTYfugitives, Ljajic said the monthlymeetings with regional intelligenceagencies were no longer useful, and heasked for USG support in emphasizing

the need for cooperation in the fugitivesearch. On domestic cases, Vukcevic



korisni,aonJezatražiopodrškuVlade

SADunaglasivšipotrebuza

saradnjomubegunacpretragu.Na

domacemslučaJevima,VukčevicJe

istakaodasudokaziprenosu

sporazumesaHrvatskomiCrnaGora

bilauspešna,pomažucidaSrbiJa

pokuša28predmetasadokazima

prebačeniizHrvatske,VladeSAD-

pomagaonaporedaseuspostavi

sličansporazumsaBosnomJeu

zastoJu,međutim.Ključniproblem,VukčevicizJavioJedaJeBosnaželeli

daprobateonimslučaJevimaukoJima

suzločinidogodiliuBosni,aSrbiJaželi

dapokušapoJedinacakoJisubili

prisutniuSrbiJainemogubiti

izručenizbognedostatkaizručenja

sporazuma.SrbiJaJeupravodonela

zakonkoJidozvoljavaekstradiciJu,akobilateralnisporazumpostoJao,ali

HrvatskaiBosnaidaljeimaoustavna

zabrana.Umeđuvremenu,dokazi

transferaJeJedininačindakrivično

goneovihslučaJeva,rekaoJeVukčevic.

AmbasadorRappobecaokontinuiranu

podrškusvoJekancelariJeda

pregovoresaBosnomidrugimregionalnimnaporimasaradnje.

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¶12.(SBU)RazgovorisazvaničnicimaSrbiJepotvrdioJedaSrbiJaulaženaporedazauzmeJakubegunaca,alizvaničniciuključeniupretragu

notedthatevidencetransferagreementswith Croatia and Montenegro had beensuccessful,helpingSerbiatotry28caseswith evidence transferred fromCroatia;USG-aided efforts to establish a similaragreement with Bosnia had stalled,however. A key problem,Vukcevic said,was that Bosnia wanted to try thosecases inwhich the crimes hadoccurredinBosnia,whereasSerbiawantedtotryindividuals whowere present in Serbiaand could not be extradited because ofthe lack of extradition agreements.Serbia had just passed a law allowing

extradition if a bilateral agreementexisted,butCroatiaandBosniastillhadconstitutional prohibitions. In themeantime, evidence transfer was theonly way to prosecute these cases, saidVukcevic.AmbassadorRapppledgedhisoffice’s continuing support to thenegotiations with Bosnia and to otherregionalcooperationefforts.

Comment-------¶12.(SBU)ConversationswithSerbianofficialsconfirmedthatSerbiaismakingstrongeffortstocapturethefugitives,butofficialsinvolvedinthefugitivesearchknowthattheyneedaluckybreakthatcouldcomesoonornot.



beguncaznaJudaimJepotrebnapauzasrecedadociuskoroiline.SrpskizvaničnicisuJasnonadaJuambasadorRappcepokušatidaubedidaodustanuholandskisvoJeprimedbe

naprimenuSporazumaostabilizaciJiSrbiJaipridruživanju.SaizuzetkomsaradnjesaHaškimtribunalomKatedreLjaJic,koJičestogovoriuJavnostiovažnostisaradnjesaHaškimtribunalom,sagovornicisenisuodazvalinaporukuambasadorRappJetoJavnomišljenjeuvezisaradnjesaHaškimtribunalomnecepromenitibezsnažneporukeizrukovodstva.

PosetitetakodJeJeistakaopotrebudanastavedaradesavladamauregionudasepoboljšasaradnjanabeguncapretraguinadomacemsuđenja.KraJkomentar.BRUSH

SerbianofficialswereclearlyhopingAmbassadorRappwouldattempttoconvincetheDutchtodroptheirobjectionstoimplementationofSerbia’sStabilizationandAssociationAgreement.

WiththeexceptionofICTYCooperationChairLjajic,whofrequentlyspeakspubliclyabouttheimportanceofICTYcooperation,interlocutorsdidnotrespondtoAmbassadorRapp’smessagethatpublicsentimentaboutICTYcooperationwouldnotchangewithoutstrongmessagesfromtheleadership.Thevisitalsohighlightedtheneedtocontinuetoworkwithgovernmentsin

theregiontoimprovecooperationonthefugitivesearchandondomestictrials.EndComment.BRUSH

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