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Revelation 14:6

And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

Last call to the world

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Revelation 14:7

Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

Last call to the world

1-Fear God1-Fear God2-Give glory to 2-Give glory to

HimHim3-Worship Him3-Worship Him

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Acts 17:24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands

Who is this God?

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Matthew 11:25

At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, O Father, Lord of heaven and earthLord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.

According to Jesus, who is the Lord of heaven & earth?

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The The FatherFather

Last call to the world

1-Fear God1-Fear God2-Give glory to 2-Give glory to

HimHim3-Worship Him3-Worship Him

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Deuteronomy Deuteronomy 6:4 6:4 Hear, O Hear, O Israel: The Israel: The LORD our LORD our God is one God is one LORDLORD

God is one

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Mark 12:28-32Mark 12:28-32

And one of the And one of the scribes came, and scribes came, and having heard having heard them reasoning them reasoning together, and together, and perceiving that he perceiving that he had answered had answered them well, asked them well, asked him, him, Which is the Which is the first first commandment of commandment of allall??

According to Jesus, which is the first commandment of all?

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And Jesus And Jesus answered him, answered him, The first of all The first of all the the commandmencommandments is, Hear, O ts is, Hear, O Israel; Israel; The The Lord our God Lord our God is one Lordis one Lord

According to Jesus, which is the first commandment of all?

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And thou shalt love the Lord And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all with all thy soul, and with all thy thy mindmind, and with all thy , and with all thy strength: this strength: this isis the first the first commandment. And the commandment. And the second second isis like, like, namelynamely this, this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than commandment greater than these.these.

According to Jesus, which is the first commandment of all?

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And the scribe said And the scribe said unto him, Well, unto him, Well, Master, thou hast Master, thou hast said the truth: said the truth: for for there is one God; there is one God; and there is none and there is none other but heother but he34 And when Jesus 34 And when Jesus saw that he saw that he answered answered discreetly, he said discreetly, he said unto him, unto him, Thou art Thou art not far from the not far from the kingdom of Godkingdom of God. .

According to Jesus, which is the first commandment of all?

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Who is this God of the Jews?

John 8:54 Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Fathermy Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your that he is your GodGod

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Myhla – Elohim

God is one

Exodus 7:1

And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a godgod [Elohim] to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.

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Myhla – Elohim

God is one

Exodus 11:3

Moreover the man the man Moses was very greatMoses was very great in the land of Egypt, in the sight of Pharaoh’s servants, and in the sight of the people.

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Myhla – ElohimSays Mr. Summerbell, "A friend of mine who was present in a New York synagogue, asked the Rabbi for an explanation of the word `elohim'. A Trinitarian clergyman who stood by, replied, `Why, that has reference to the three persons in the Trinity,' when a Jew stepped forward and said he must not mention that word again, or they would have to compel him to leave the house; for it was not permitted to mention the name of any strange god in the synagogue." {J. N. Loughborough, Review & Herald, November 5, 1861}

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After the earth was created, and the beasts upon it, the Father and Son carried out their purpose, which was designed before the fall of Satan, to make man in their own image. They had wrought together in the creation of the earth and every living thing upon it. And now God says to his Son, "Let us make man in our image." {3SG 33.2} www.Revelation1412.org

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John 17:3

And this is life eternal, that they might know thee thee the only true the only true God, God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

Who is this only true God?

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1 Corinthians 8:6

But to us there But to us there is but one God, is but one God, the Fatherthe Father, of of whom are all whom are all thingsthings, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

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John 4:23

But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the worship the FatherFather in spirit and in truth: for the Father Father seeketh such to seeketh such to worship him.worship him.

According to Jesus, who will the true worshippers

worship?

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““We rejoiced that the We rejoiced that the God of God of creation is the God of the Biblecreation is the God of the Bible, , and that we can claim this and that we can claim this infinite Being as infinite Being as our Fatherour Father. We . We talked of the glories of his talked of the glories of his power and wisdom, and adored power and wisdom, and adored the matchless love which has the matchless love which has made it possible, through Jesus made it possible, through Jesus Christ, for fallen man to Christ, for fallen man to become a son and heir of become a son and heir of the the Maker and Sovereign of the Maker and Sovereign of the universeuniverse.” .” {RH, November 1, 1881 {RH, November 1, 1881 par. 4} par. 4}

The God of the BibleThe God of the Bible

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The Way to the FatherJohn 14:6

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

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John 17:3

And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true only true God, and Jesus God, and Jesus ChristChrist, whom thou hast sent.

Knowing Jesus Christ

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1 Corinthians 3:23

And ye are Christ's; and Christ is God's.

and you belong to Christ, and Christ

belongs to God. (Contemporary English

Version)

Precious Lord Jesus

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Matthew 17:5

While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my This is my beloved Sonbeloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear hear ye himye him.

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Acts 9:20

And straightway he preached Christ in the synagogues, that he is that he is the Son of the Son of GodGod.

How did the apostles see Christ?

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Why did the Jews want to kill Christ?John 5:18John 5:18

Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with Godmaking himself equal with God.

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How did Satan challenge Christ?

Luke 4:3

And the devil said unto him, If thou be If thou be the Son of the Son of GodGod, command this stone that it be made bread.

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How is Christ the Son of God?John 3:16

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only only begotten Sonbegotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

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John 1:14

And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only the only begotten of the begotten of the FatherFather,) full of grace and truth.

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When was Christ begotten of His Father?

Micah 5:2

But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings whose goings forth have been from of forth have been from of old, from the days of old, from the days of eternityeternity. [margin]

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Proverbs 8:22-25

The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his before his works of oldworks of old. I was set up from from everlastingeverlasting, from the beginningbeginning, or ever the earth wasor ever the earth was. When there were no depths, I was I was brought forthbrought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water. Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forthwas I brought forth

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Proverbs 8:26-30

While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world. When he prepared the heavens, I was I was therethere: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth: When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep: When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth: Then I was by himThen I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him.

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John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

In the beginning was the woman, and the woman was with the human, and the woman was human.

[the]

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John 1:1 "the Word was Divine" (Goodspeed, E.J. An American Translation N.T. 1923)."the Logos was Divine" (Moffatt, J. The Bible 1950)."And what God was, the Word was" (New English Bible 1961)."the Word was Divine" (Schonfield, H.L. Authentic N.T. 1956)."The Word was with God and shared his nature" (Translator's N.T. 1973)."and the nature of the Word was the same as the nature of God" (Barclay, W. N.T. 1968).

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Does “begotten” mean “created”?“A complete offering has been

made; for "God so loved the world, that he gave his only-begotten Son,"-- not a son by creation, as were the angels, nor a son by adoption, as is the forgiven sinner, but a Son but a Son begotten begotten in the express image of the Father's person, and in all the brightness of his majesty and glory, one equal with God in authority, dignity, and divine perfection. In him dwelt all the fullness of the Godhead bodily.” {ST, May 30, 1895 par. 3}

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Does “begotten” mean “created”?

Lucifer was Lucifer was createdcreated

Christ was brought forth/begotten

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Daniel 3:25

He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of the Son of GodGod.

Did people in the OT know that God had a Son?

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Proverbs 30:4

Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his name, and what is his son’s namewhat is his son’s name, if thou canst tell?

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When on earth, did Christ teach that He came forth from the

Father?John 8:42

Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I for I proceeded forth and proceeded forth and came from Godcame from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.

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John 16:27

For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I I came out from Godcame out from God.

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If Christ indeed proceeded from the Father, what did He inherit?Hebrews 1:3, 4

Who being the brightness of the brightness of his gloryhis glory, and the express the express image of his personimage of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by by inheritanceinheritance obtained a more a more excellent nameexcellent name than they.

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If Christ indeed proceeded from the Father, what did He inherit?Exodus 23:20-21 Exodus 23:20-21 Behold, I send an Angel Behold, I send an Angel before thee, to keep before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to thee in the way, and to bring thee into the bring thee into the place which I have place which I have prepared. (21) Beware prepared. (21) Beware of him, and obey his of him, and obey his voice, provoke him not; voice, provoke him not; for he will not pardon for he will not pardon your transgressions: your transgressions: for for my name is in him.my name is in him.

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““Christ was not only the Christ was not only the leader of the Hebrews in the leader of the Hebrews in the wilderness--wilderness--the Angel in the Angel in whom was the name of whom was the name of JehovahJehovah, and who, veiled in , and who, veiled in the cloudy pillar, went the cloudy pillar, went before the host--but it was before the host--but it was He who gave the law to He who gave the law to Israel.” Israel.” {PP 366} 1890{PP 366} 1890

Jehovah - Jehovah - hwhy hwhy

““Jehovah is the name Jehovah is the name given to Christgiven to Christ.” .” {ST, {ST, May 3, 1899, p. 2}May 3, 1899, p. 2}

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John 8:56-58 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. (57) Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? (58) Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.“The name of God, given to Moses to express the idea of the eternal presence, had been claimed as His own by this Galilean Rabbi.” {DA 469.5}

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John 5:26

For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life life in himselfin himselfColossians 2:9; 1:19

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Equality of Christ

Philippians 2:6

Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal equal with Godwith God

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Equality of ChristHebrews 1:8, 9

But unto the Son the Son he saith, Thy throne, O GodO God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, therefore God, even thy Godeven thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

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Equality of Christ

“The Lord Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of the Father, is truly God in infinity, but not in personality.”

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Equality of ChristDo we honour Christ less than

the Father?John 5:23

That all men should honour the Son, even as they even as they honour the Fatherhonour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.

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1 John 2:22, 23

Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, He is antichrist, that denieth the that denieth the Father and the SonFather and the Son. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

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What about the Holy Spirit?

Philippians 2:6

Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God

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John 5:37

And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his nor seen his shape.shape.

Does God have a form and shape?

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Ezekiel 1:26

And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphiresapphire stone: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a the appearance of a manman above upon it.

“Visions of God”

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John 4:24

God is a SpiritGod is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Is God only physical?

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Isaiah 40:13

Who hath directed the SpiritSpirit of of the LORDthe LORD, or being his counsellor hath taught him?

What is the Bible definition for ‘spirit’?

Romans 11:34

For who hath known the mindmind of of the Lordthe Lord? or who hath been his counsellor?

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What is the relation between man and his

spirit?Daniel 2:1

And in the second year of the reign of Nebuchadnezzar Nebuchadnezzar dreamed dreams, wherewith his his spirit was spirit was troubledtroubled, and his sleep brake from him.

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1 Corinthians 2:11

For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even soeven so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

What is the relation between man and his

spirit?

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Psalm 139:7

Whither shall I go from thy spiritspirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presencepresence?

Is it just a force?

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Psalm 51:11

Cast me not away from thy presencepresence; and take not thy holy holy spiritspirit from me.

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Where does the Holy Spirit come from?

John 15:26

But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which which proceedeth from the proceedeth from the FatherFather, he shall testify of me:

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Where else does the Holy Spirit come from?

John 20:22

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Ephesians 4:4

There is one body, and one Spiritone Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling

How many spirits are there?

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Which Spirit?

“But there are two spirits in the world,--the Spirit the Spirit of God of God and the the spirit of Satanspirit of Satan.”

{ST, November 24, 1887 par. 7}

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Do the Father & Son share the same Spirit?Romans 8:9, 10

But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of GodSpirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christthe Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. And if ChristChrist be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the the Spirit is lifeSpirit is life because of righteousness.

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John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.“Christ is not here

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Acts 5:3-4 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? (4) … thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.Acts 5:9 Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord?

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Cumbered with humanity, Christ could not be in every place personally; therefore it was altogether for their advantage that He should leave them, go to His father, and send the Holy Spirit to be His successor on earth. The Holy Spirit is Himself divested of the personality of humanity and independent thereof. He would represent Himself as present in all places by His Holy Spirit, as the Omnipresent. {14MR 23}

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Mark 16:20 And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.

The Head of the Church

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While Jesus ministers in the sanctuary above, He is still by His Spirit the minister of the church on earth. He is withdrawn from the eye of sense, but His parting promise is fulfilled, "Lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world." Matthew 28:20. While He delegates His power to inferior ministers, His energizing presence is still with His church. {DA 166.2}

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Cumbered with humanity, Christ could not be in every place personally; therefore it was altogether for their advantage that He should leave them, go to His father, and send the Holy Spirit to be His successor on earth. The Holy Spirit is Himself divested of the personality of humanity and independent thereof. He would represent Himself as present in all places by His Holy Spirit, as the Omnipresent. {14MR 23}

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John 14:23

Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love meme, he will keep mymy words: and my Fathermy Father will love him, and we will come we will come unto himunto him, and make ourour abode with him.

When we receive the Holy Spirit, who do we receive?

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John 14:16, 26

And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another ComforterComforter, that he may abide with you for ever; But the Comforter, But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghostwhich is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

What did Christ promise to send us?

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Galatians 4:6

And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the the Spirit of his SonSpirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.

Who is this Spirit?

2 Corinthians 3:17

Now the Lord is that SpiritNow the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

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John 14:18

I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to I will come to youyou.

Who is this Comforter?

“The Saviour is our Comforter. This I have proved Him to be.” {8MR 49}

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The reason why the churches are weak and sickly and ready to die, is that the enemy has brought influences of a discouraging nature to bear upon trembling souls. He has He has sought to shut Jesus from their sought to shut Jesus from their view as the Comforterview as the Comforter, as one who reproves, who warns, who admonishes them, saying, "This is the way, walk ye in it." {RH, August 26, 1890 par. 10}

Why are we weak?

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Revelation 14:7 1-Fear God2-Give glory to Him3-Worship Him

Last call to the world

Ephesians 2:18 Ephesians 2:18

For through him For through him [Christ] we both [Christ] we both have access by have access by one Spirit unto one Spirit unto the Father.the Father.

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Satan is determined that men shall not see the love of God which led Him to give His only-His only-begotten Sonbegotten Son to save a lost race; for it is the goodness of God that leads men to repentance.

Selected Messages Book 1, p.156

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Someone else?

Matthew 28:19-20 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: (20) Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

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