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keh]b obstkb .dbstkb ifdb ISSN 1987-9385 1 293 (5673) if,fsb-rdbhf afcb5 #) stshb !) 2 !! ltrtv,thb7 @)!! .jdtklqbehb ufptsb if,fsb-rdbhf jondi baRaTuria: `saakaSvilma 8 Tvis pensiebi motexa~ erTad avisruloT qarTuli ocneba! kviras, 11 dekembers, 15 saaTze Tbi- lisis saxelmwifo sakoncerto dar- bazSi sazogadoebrivi moZraoba „qar- Tuli ocneba“ fuZndeba. „Tbilisi ivenT holSi“, aseve filarmoniis mim- debare teritoriaze moxdeba mxar- damWerTa registracia. amas garda, „Tbilisi ivenT holSi“ damontaJdeba didi satelevizio ekrani, raTa dar- bazSi adgilebis simciris gamo gareT darCenil mxardamWe- rebs mieceT RonisZiebis naxvis saSualeba. „qarTuli ocneba“ iqmneba, rogorc sazogadoebis gama- erTianebeli Zala Zireuli cvlilebebis gansaxorcieleb- lad, raTa Cvens qveyanaSi damyardes samarTali, adamianebs mieceT imedi da rwmena. Cven, yvelam erTad unda avisruloT qarTuli ocneba! patimrebs ojaxis wevris dakrZalvaze ar uSveben rogor irRveva kanoni da ra problemebiT vxvdebiT adamianis uflebaTa dacvis dRes leiboristebi mesame Zala varT! kaxa kukava: `ruseTi mzadaa afxazeTsa da samaCabloze dagvelaparakos~ vin aamxedra xalxi meufe alaverdelis winaaRmdeg `saxalxo kreba~ aSS-is elCis saxelze mimarTvas avrcelebs gmirebs dro verafers aklebs ra saerTo aqvT saqarTvelosTvis daRupul biWebs soso ciskariSvili: `putins Sida problemebs saqarTvelosTan omi ver mougvarebs~

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Page 1: !) 2 !! ltrtv,thb7 @)!! afcb5 #) stshb jondi baRaTuria: `saakaSvilma …dspace.nplg.gov.ge/bitstream/1234/141233/1/Axali_Taoba... · 2016-02-16 · doebis mxridan ivaniSvilze ga-cemuli

keh]b obstkb .dbstkb ifdb

ISSN

198

7-93

85

1293 (5673)if,fsb-rdbhf

afcb5 #) stshb!) 2 !! ltrtv,thb7 @)!!

.jdtklqbehb ufptsb

if,fsb-rdbhf

jondi baRaTuria: `saakaSvilma

8 Tvis pensiebi motexa~

erTad avisruloT

qarTuli ocneba!kviras, 11 dekembers, 15 saaTze Tbi-

lisis saxelmwifo sakoncerto dar-bazSi sazogadoebrivi moZraoba „qar-Tuli ocneba“ fuZndeba. „TbilisiivenT holSi“, aseve filarmoniis mim-debare teritoriaze moxdeba mxar-damWerTa registracia. amas garda,„Tbilisi ivenT holSi“ damontaJdebadidi satelevizio ekrani, raTa dar-

bazSi adgilebis simciris gamo gareT darCenil mxardamWe-rebs mieceT RonisZiebis naxvis saSualeba.

„qarTuli ocneba“ iqmneba, rogorc sazogadoebis gama-erTianebeli Zala Zireuli cvlilebebis gansaxorcieleb-lad, raTa Cvens qveyanaSi damyardes samarTali, adamianebsmieceT imedi da rwmena. Cven, yvelam erTad unda avisruloTqarTuli ocneba!

patimrebs ojaxis

wevris

dakrZalvaze ar

uSvebenrogor irRveva kanoni da ra problemebiTvxvdebiT adamianis uflebaTa dacvis dRes

leiboristebi

mesame

Zala varT!

kaxa kukava: ̀ ruseTi

mzadaa afxazeTsa da

samaCabloze

dagvelaparakos~

vin aamxedra

xalxi

meufe

alaverdelis

winaaRmdeg

`saxalxo kreba~

aSS-is elCis

saxelze mimarTvas

avrcelebs

gmirebs dro

verafers aklebsra saerTo aqvT

saqarTvelosTvis daRupul biWebs

soso ciskariSvili:

`putins

Sida problemebs

saqarTvelosTan

omi ver

mougvarebs~

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xelisuflebasmxolodqarTvelixalxiswinaSeundahqondesvaldebulebada araruseTisan amerikiswinaSeda esvaldebulebebiwinaswarveunda iyosgacxadebuli

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erT-erTi lideri mamuka

giorgaZe ivaniSvilisa

da misi gundis

warmatebas mxolod

kargad dagegmili,

pozitiuri da

struqturirebuli

nabijebiT xedavs.

giorgaZe acxadebs,

rom ivaniSvilis es

mxardaWera

sazogadoebis

mxridan avansad

gacemuli mxardaWeraa

da man es sworad

unda gamoiyenos.aris Tu ara qveyanaSi

proqarTuli opoziciuri Za-la da dasWirdeba Tu ara iva-niSvils saakaSvilis xeli-suflebis klanebTan molapa-rakeba? _ am sakiTxebis ir-gvliv gTavazobT intervius`saxalxo partiis~ lider ma-muka giorgaZesTan.

_ batono mamuka, keT-deba Sefasebebi, rom saakaS-vili ivaniSvilis winaaRmdegdaSvebuli da dauSvebeli me-TodebiT ibrZvis. Tqveni Se-fasebiT, realurad ra saxisbrZola wamoiwyo preziden-tma da misma gundma?

_ xelisufleba wesieradarasodes ibrZoda da ar cdi-lobda, civilizebuli sazoga-doebisTvis daSvebuli meTode-biT waremarTa Tavisi politi-kuri saqmianoba. xelisufleba-Si yofnis manZilze is mudam iq-ceoda ukanonod, uzneod, kad-rulobda yvelafers. bunebri-via, ase eqceoda sxvasac da aseeqceva ivaniSvilsac. aq axaliaraferia da axali saxiT xeli-sufleba ar warmdgara sazoga-doebis winaSe. rac iyo da racicis, im meTodiT ibrZvis.

_ ki magram, am meTodmagaamarTla SedarebiT sustioponentebis SemTxvevaSi. iva-niSvili xom sxva wonis politi-kuri oponentia, saakaSvilis-Tvis isic xelwamosakravi fi-guraa?

_ xelwamosakraobis momen-ti aq naklebia. dageTanxmebiT,rom es meTodika amarTlebs dayovelTvis gaamarTlebs, rao-den xelwamosakravi figurac arunda iyos mowinaaRmdege, Tukiar iqneba am meTodikis winaaR-mdeg swori brZola; Tu ar iqne-ba is meqanizmebi amuSavebuli,romelic xelisuflebis mierwarmodgenil am meqanikas winaRudgeba. amitom aq imdenad pi-rovnebis wonas ara aqvs mniSvne-loba, ramdenic swori brZolismeqanizmebis amuSavebas.

_ brZolis swori taqtikaairCia ivaniSvilis mxarem?

_ samwuxarod, jerjero-biT es taqtika ar Cans. amitom

amis Tqma gamiWirdeba. Cven mig-vaCnia, rom saakaSvilis wina-aRmdeg brZolis paralelu-rad, Tu ar iqneba gadadgmulinabijebi imisTvis, rom Seiqmnassistema, romelic daupirispir-deba dRes arsebul reJims, ma-Sin mdgomareobis gaumjobese-ba naklebad savaraudoa. zoga-dad rom vTqvaT, CvenTan ra xde-ba am 20 wlis ganmavlobaSi.praqtikulad, vebrZviT ama Tu

im xelisuflebis warmomadge-nels. es brZola gadadis misipirovnebis winaaRmdeg. gamoye-nebulia, ase vTqvaT, arasazo-gadoebrivi pozitivi aRmSeneb-lobisken mimarTuli, aramed amxelisuflebis miuReblobiselementi. rogorc adre, dRe-sac opoziciis mxardamWerebswarmoadgens ara uSualod iswre adamianebisa, romelsacmoswons esa Tu is opoziciuriZala, aramed warmoadgens opo-ziciis mxardamWerebs, rome-lic ver itans saakaSvils. Tuar moxdeba am muxtis pozitiv-ze gadmotana, Tu ar moxdebamomxre sazogadoebis bazazestruqturirebuli gamarTuliorganizaciis Seqmna, romelsacxelisuflebaSi mosvlamde eq-neba konkretuli gegma, Tu ro-gor unda ganaviTaros qveyana,TiTqmis yvela ZiriTadi mimar-TulebiT, maSin elementaruladbrZola gadadis erTi adamia-nis xelisuflebidan gandevnisreJimSi. is kaci SeiZleba ga-vagdoT kidec, magram rCeba sis-tema. maSin am saqmeSi oponen-tebs dasWirdebaT an gare Za-lebTan garigeba, an Sida kla-nebTan molaparakeba. es ki, sa-boloo jamSi, imas niSnavs, romaxalmosuli pirovneba iRebs Za-lian did valdebulebebs ro-gorc gare subieqtebTan, asevereJimis Semadgenel Sida kla-nebTan, rac, sabolo jamSi, ai-Zulebs mas, iseT nabijebze wa-vides, romelic sazogadoebasar esiamovneba da sul cota

xanSi TviTonve aRmoCndeba sa-zogadoebrivi gakicxvis obi-eqti. politikas istoriuli dapolitikuri kanonzomierebebiaxasiaTebs da es yvelam undagaiTvaliswinos. dRes TiTqosyvela saakaSvils vebrZviT, mag-ram gvaviwydeba, rom saakaSvi-li ki ar aris sabrZolo obieq-ti, aramed sabrZolo obieqtiasaxelmwifoebrivi aRmSeneblo-ba. amas ki gundi sWirdeba. Tu

es gundi manamde ar SeirCa, sa-nam xelisuflebaSi mosvla mox-deba, Semdeg aRmoCndeba, romam pirovnebam mTeli Tavisienergia unda mimarTos ara qvey-nis aRmSeneblobisaken, aramedZalauflebis SenarCunebisaken.

_ aseTi gundi rom iyos,romelic qveynis aRmSenebloba-ze zrunavs, maSin proqarTuliZala unda arsebobdes qveyana-Si, xom asea?

_ ra Tqma unda._ proqarTuli Zala rom

ar ikveTeba da msgavsi ZalisgaZliereba ar xdeba?

_ e.i. Cven am mimarTule-biT ar vmuSaobT. Cveni energiaufro metad gadadis iqiTken,rom davarwmunoT amerika, ru-seTi Tu evrokavSiri, rom saa-kaSvili maT mogvacilon. dRe-vandeli politikuri cxovre-bis ZiriTadi mimarTuleba esaris. igive biZina ivaniSvili am-bobs, rom saakaSvili ver gabe-davs arCevnebis gayalbebas, imi-tom rom mas etyvian. magram Cvenar vakvirdebiT, vin etyvis amasda is, vinc etyvis, es niSnavs,rom Cven, qarTvelma xalxma, miswinaSe raRac valdebuleba un-da aviRoT? avtomaturad gvax-sendeba, rogor auwia yuri saa-kaSvils putinma Ria preskon-ferenciaze da uTxra, Sen val-debulebebi rom gqonda aRebu-li, ratom ar asrulebo. buneb-rivia, ibadeba kiTxva, ra val-debulebebzea saubari. ra val-debulebebiT movida saakaSvi-li xelisuflebaSi da ra val-

debulebebi aiRo ruseTisa dauSualod putinis mimarT?!

_ es jer kidev ar arisgamokveTili? faqtia, seriozu-li ekonomikuri berketebi Ca-igdo ruseTma xelSi.

_ es rom gamoikveTa 8 wlisSemdeg, ukve Zalian gvian iyo.saxalxo partia Tavidanve am-bobda, rom ar SeiZleba xeli-suflebaSi valdebulebebiTmosvla. xelisuflebas mxolod

qarTveli xalxis winaSeunda hqondes valdebu-leba da ara ruseTis anamerikis winaSe da esvaldebulebebi winas-warve unda iyos gacxa-debuli. es ar aris dasa-mali da xalxi ar undamovatyuoT. imitom arsaubroben am Temaze, romTviTonve eSiniaT qar-Tveli xalxis risxvisa.erTi seriozuli konfe-rencia ar CatarebulaTemaze: `sad gadis ru-seT-saqarTvelos stra-tegiuli interesebisSexebis wertilebi~. Cvenra gvgonia, rom ruseTsmovatyuebT, Tu am Tema-ze dRes ar vityviT?!

_ ivaniSvils gau-Wirdeba, Seqmnas proqar-Tuli Zala, radgan gver-diT alasania da respub-likelebi, rogorc maTuwodeben, amerikidanmarTuli Zalebi daiye-na?

_ ratom uwodebenase, simarTle rom giT-

xraT, amis aranairi argumentiar maqvs, miT umetes, roca saqmerespublikur partias exeba.magram am SemTxvvaSi Cven nakle-bad gvainteresebs, vin iqnebaivaniSvilTan, imitom rom Ziri-Tadi pasuxismgebloba TavadivaniSvilzea. Tavis damokide-bulebas ivaniSvilis mimarT argansazRvravs imiT, Tu vis Camo-arTmevs xels ivaniSvili. mag-ram, samwuxarod, TviTon iva-niSvils ar Camouyalibebia mTe-li rigi principuli pozicie-bi im mTavar sakiTxebTan dakav-SirebiT, romlebmac unda ga-dawyvitos qveynis bedi da ro-melic mogvcems saSualebas,rom ganvsazRvroT, esa Tu ispolitikuri Zala ra fundamen-tur Rirebulebebs efuZneba dara orientacisaa. amitom am Za-lis Seqmnisken unda gadaidgasmTavari nabiji. Cven imaze ki arunda vilaparakoT, vin aRmoC-ndeba mis gundSi. aramed, iva-niSvilma unda gamokveTos, raunda mas. am Rirebulebebis ma-tarebeli vin aris, is Zalebiunda iyvnen mis gverdiT. rocaivaniSvilis popularobaze vsa-ubrobT, unda vicodeT, rom espopularoba saakaSvilis ziz-Rzea agebuli. amitom sazoga-doebis mxridan ivaniSvilze ga-cemuli mxardaWera _ es arisavansad gacemuli mxardaWera.ivaniSvilma am mxardaWerasstruqturireba unda gaukeTosda pozitivSi, pozitiur Zala-Si gadaiyvanos, Tu Sedegis miR-weva unda.

leiboristebi

mesame

Zala varT!

giorgi gugava

Sorena kowowaSvili

leiboristuli partia, romelic biZina iva-niSvilis opoziciur flangze gamoCenas amerikulproeqts uwodebs, darwmunebulia, rom saakaSvi-

lis Canacvlebis gegmas amerikelebi ganaxorcie-leben, anu saqarTvelos xelisuflebis cvla moxde-ba ara qarTveli xalxis survilisa da interesebi-samebr, aramed qveynis garedan marTuli Zalebismier.

Sromis partiaSi miaCniaT, rom saqarTvelo-Si arsebobs mesame Zala leiboristuli partiissaxiT da sicruea imis Zaxili, TiTqos politikurflangze ori polusi ikveTeba _ saxelisuflebo daivaniSvilis momxreebis.

leiboristuli partia undoblobas ucxadebs`airaisa~ da `socialuri kvlevisa da analizis~institutis mier gamoqveynebul Sedegebs da masmixeil saakaSvilisa da biZina ivaniSvilis mierdakveTilad miiCnevs.

_ amerikelebis diriJorobiT saakaSvilisada ivaniSvilis mier dakveTil-dafinansebuli er-Tnairi yalbi e.w. gamokiTxvebi kidev erTxel adas-turebs Cveni naTqvamis WeSmaritebas, rom saqarTve-los winaaRmdeg garigeba Semdgaria. garigebis Se-sabamisad, ucxoeTidan marTuli antierovnuli mi-Sisturi da biZinisturi Zalebi xalxis gabiTure-biT arCevnebis Semdgom apireben erTiani mTavrobisCamoyalibebas, sadac saakaSvili _ premier-minis-tri, xolo biZina ivaniSvili parlamentis Tavmjdo-mare iqneba an, piriqiT, raTa qveynis ganadgureba-daSlis kursi erToblivad gaagrZelon, _ ganacxa-da guSin gamarTul preskonferenciaze leiboris-tuli partiis politikurma mdivanma giorgi guga-vam.

aRsaniSnavia, rom Salva naTelaSvilis Tana-gundelebs SesaZleblad miaCniaT im garigebis CaS-la, romelic, maTive mtkicebiT, amerikeli poli-tikosebisa da saakaSvilis lobistebis mier dai-gegma.

_ am antierovnuli SeTqmulebis CaSla SesaZ-lebelia mxolod daumorCileblobiT, mitingebiTada aqciebiT, romelsac leiboristuli partia geg-mavs da axorcielebs, _ ganacxada giorgi gugavam.

unda aRiniSnos isic, rom leiboristebis mi-er dagegmil da dapiarebul aqciebze sakmao sixal-vaTea da mosaxleobis Zalian mcire jgufi Tu gamo-dis im poziciis mxardasaWerad, romelsac partiislideri Salva naTelaSvili TanagundelebTan er-Tad afiqsirebs.

ram ganapiroba leiboristebisadmi mosaxle-obis naklebi mxardaWera, es albaT Tavad leibo-ristebis amomrCevelma ukeT icis, Tumca aSkaraa,rom mosaxleoba cvlilebebis molodinSia. saakaS-vilis xelisuflebisadmi ukmayofileba sul ufriizrdeba da amomrCeveli, rogorc Cans, ivaniSvilisnabijebs elodeba.

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Tea marxvaiZe

eklesiis winaaRmdeg rom

seriozuli brZola midis,

es axali ambavi ar aris.

ZiriTadi samizne

saqarTvelos patriarqia.

mavansa da mavans ver

mounelebia is maRali

reitingi, romelic

eklesiasa da saqarTvelos

patriarqs aqvs.am etapze mTavari dartymis

qveS meufe alaverdeli aRmoCnda.ufro zustad Tu vityviT, mis wina-aRmdeg dawyebuli kampania axaliZaliT ganaxlda. meufes sofel ala-verdis mosaxleoba upirispirdeba,sadac, rogorc sasuliero pirebiamboben, ieRovelebi saxloben mrav-lad.

soflis mosaxleoba ki sulsxva rames amtkicebs. maT aqciebicki moawyves am zafxuls meufis wina-aRmdeg. am dReebSi ki saqarTveloskaTolikos-patriarqis saxelze api-reben werilis gagzavnas.

sapatriarqos saxelze, sxva-Ta Soris, erTxel ukve gaigzavnawerili. werili 1997 wlis 14 agvis-toTi TariRdeba. mTeli rigi sasu-liero pirebi meufis winaaRmdeggamodiodnen.

es mimarTva am dReebSi far-Tod ganixileboda internet-foru-mebsa Tu socialur qselebSi. amisparalelurad sofel alaverdismosaxleoba protests gamoTqvamsda aqciebiT imuqreba.

alaverdis monastris garSe-mo ganviTarebul vnebaTaRelvas aq-tiurad aSuqebs kaxeTis sainforma-cio centri da, rogorc isini iuw-yebian,

sofel alaverdis mosaxleo-ba amba alaverdeli mitropolitisdaviTis moxsnas iTxovs.

alaverdis mcxovreblebi me-ufes SeviwroebaSi adanaSaulebenda saqarTvelos kaTolikos-patri-arqs konfliqtis gamwvavebis Tavi-dan asacileblad saswrafo gadaw-yvetilebis miRebas sTxoven.

_ eg meufe ki ara, feodalia,romelic miwiT, tyiTa da qonebiTver ZReba. yvelaferi wagvarTva,

Tan masxrad gvigdebs. sistemaze,romliTac sofeli sasmeli wyliTmaragdeba, monastris damTvalie-reblebisTvis tualets aSenebs. uk-ve ramdenime Tvea, wyali ar gvaqvs,miwis Txris dros milebi gaglijesda aRar gaakeTes. saZovrebze aRargviSveben, es miwebi eklesias ekuT-vnis da iq saqonlis SeSvebis ufle-ba ar gaqvTo. arc tyeSi gviSveben,rom fiCxi movagrovoT. amas winaT

es faqtebi gavaprotesteT, TqveniJurnalisti moviwvieT da yvelafe-ri gaaSuqa. imis Semdeg ufro gam-warda. eklesiaSi Semosuli ar da-ginaxoTo. vin misca magas eklesia?magan aaSena, misi sakuTrebaa Tu raaris? eg rogori morwmunea, ekle-siis ukan, galavanTan axlos, saf-lavebi amoTxara, Rvinis maranSi Se-sasvlelad gza rom gaeyvana. pat-riarqs vTxovT, rom saswrafod da-interesdes am saqmiT, Torem CvengaCerebas ar vapirebT. Tu aman Cve-ni Seviwroeba ar Sewyvita, monas-terSi aRar SevuSvebT da sofli-dan gavaZevebT. moiyvanos mere im-deni policia, ramdenic unda. mTelsofels xom ar dagviWeren?! _ ga-nucxades alaverdis mcxovrebleb-ma kaxeTis sainformacio centrs.

maTive TqmiT, saqarTvelos ka-Tolikos-patriarqs werils kvirisbolomde gaugzavnian.

cnobisaTvis, axmetis raionissofel alaverdis mcxovreblebmameufe daviTis winaaRmdeg protes-ti xmamaRla pirvelad 24 oqtom-bers gamoTqves, roca monastris mim-debare teritoriaze saprotesto

aqcia gamarTes. aqciaSi sofel ala-verdSi mcxovrebi 50-mde adamianimonawileobda. aqciis monawileeb-Tan monastridan alaverdis ekle-siis moZRvari, mama iosebi gamovi-da, Tumca, Jurnalistebis danaxvis-Tanave man teritoria ukomentaroddatova.

aqciis monawileebis TqmiT, ma-namde moZRvarma ukmayofilo xalxsuTxra, rom isini seqtantebi arian

da eklesias amitom ebrZvian. `ekle-siaSi SevdivarT, vloculobT, san-Tels vanTebT, qristiani marTlma-dideblebi varT. egeni seqtantebsimitom gveZaxian, xma rom amoviReT~,_ aRniSnes aqciis monawileebma.

aqciis gamarTvamde ramdeni-me dRiT adre policiam alaverdismonastris mimdebare teritorii-dan garemovaWreebi ayara, facxebiki daSales. rogorc kaxeTis sain-formacio centrs Ss axmetis raio-nul sammarTveloSi ganucxades, te-ritoriidan garemovaWreebis gay-vanis moTxovniT policias alaver-dis episkoposma mimarTa. konfliq-tTan dakavSirebiT meufe daviTikomentars ar akeTebs.

samagierod saintereso gan-cxadeba gaakeTa partia `Tavisufa-li saqarTvelos~ kaxeTis organi-zaciam. maTi mtkicebiT, alaverdiseparqiis mRvdelmTavars, mitropo-lit daviTs, gansxvavebuli rwmeni-sa da aRmsareblobis jgufi upi-rispirdeba.

`Tavisufali saqarTvelos~kaxeTis regionuli organizaciisTavmjdomare giorgi mosiaSvilis

gancxadebiT, mimdinare wlis 8 de-kembers sxvadasxva sainformacio sa-Sualebis mier gavrcelda sofelalaverdSi mcxovrebi mcire jgu-fis Seuracxmyofeli gancxadebaalaverdis eparqiis mRvdelmTav-ris, mitropolit daviTis mimarT.gancxadebaSi naTqvamia, rom TiT-qosda axmetis municipalitetis so-fel alaverdis mosaxleoba ganic-dis Seviwroebas alaverdeli mit-

ropolitis, meufe daviTis mxridan,rac mtknari sicruea da simarTlesar Seesabameba, romelic miznad isa-xavs rogorc mitropolit daviTis,aseve marTlmadidebeli mrevlisdiskreditacias.

partia `Tavisufali saqar-Tvelo~ dainteresda aRniSnuli gan-cxadebiT da sofel alaverdSi, ze-mo alvansa da qvemo alvanSi adgi-lobriv mosaxleobas Sexvda.

maTi ganmartebiT, adamianTajgufi, romelic upirispirdeba mit-ropolits, marTlmadidebeli ekle-siisgan gansxvavebiT, warmoadgenengansxvavebuli rwmenisa da aRmsareb-lobis jgufs. swored amitom xdebacalmxrivi dapirispireba adamian-Ta erTi jgufis mxridan qarTulideda eklesiis mimarT. jgufi meu-fes moixseniebs Seuracxmyofeli dacilismwamebluri sityvebiT, racara mxolod arakoreqtulia, metic,kategoriulad miuRebelia. rac Se-exeba alaverdis eklesiis mimdeba-re teritoriebze warmoebul sare-abilitacio samuSaoebs, swored esgaxlavT gaRizianebis safuZveli.

isini iTxoven eklesiis teri-

toriis saZovrad gamoyenebas, racyovlad dauSvebelia. gancxadeba-Si aseve iTxoven alaznis Walis tyiTsargeblobas saTbobi SeSis mopo-vebis mizniT, rac, `Tavisufali sa-qarTvelos~ ganmartebiT, miuRebe-lia. aRniSnuli Wala konkordatissafuZvelze ukve ramdenime weliagadaeca eklesias da swored ala-verdis eparqiis meufis, mitropo-lit daviTis didi ZalisxmeviT mo-xerxda unikaluri tyis gadarCena,romelsac aseve gaaCnia turizmisganviTarebis unikaluri potencia-li.

gancxadeba aseve Seicavs mu-qaris tons, rom TiTqos meufis saq-mianobis gagrZelebis SemTxvevaSiwin aRudgebian mis eklesiur saqmi-anobas da ar miscemen moRvaweobissaSualebas.

_ es yvelaferi ki xdeba imfonze, rodesac konkretul epar-qiaSi ar arsebobs qarTuli eklesi-is, marTlmadidebeli mrevlis mxri-dan Tundac umniSvnelo SezRudvagansxvavebuli aRmsareblobis ada-mianTa mimarT. vimedovnebT, rom aR-niSnuli jgufi gagebiT moekidebamarTlmadidebluri rwmenis adami-anTa Rirsebasa da pativs, Tavs Sei-kavebs msgavsi arakoreqtuli gan-cxadebebisgan, rom aRaraferivTqvaT muqaraze. aseve vimedovnebT,rom am jgufis ukan ar dgas Zala,romelic dainteresebulia kon-fliqtis gaCaRebiT gansxvavebuliaRmsareblobis adamianTa Soris, _acxadebs giorgi mosiaSvili.

alaverdis garSemo marTlasaintereso da saxifaTo ambebi xde-ba, rasac didi sifrTxiliT esaWi-roeba mogvareba. winaaRmdeg Sem-TxvevaSi, ar aris gamoricxuli, re-ligiur niadagze moxdes raime kon-fliqti.

dasamali ar aris, rom kaxeT-Si da maT Soris axmetaSi mravladcxovroben gansxvavebuli rwmenisada aRmsareblobis adamianebi.

aqauri marTlmadideblebis-Tvis alaverdis monasteri Zalianbevrs niSnavs da, albaT, Zneli war-mosadgeni ar iqneba, ra moxdeba, Tusasuliero pirebs monasterSi arSeuSveben.

imedia, problemis mogvare-baSi Tavis rols eklesiac Seasru-lebs da mosaxleobis moTxovnebisnawils mainc gaiTvaliswinebs.

vin aamxedra

xalxi

meufe

alaverdelis

winaaRmdeg

Tea marxvaiZe

umaRles sakanonmdeblo organoSi 9 dekembersmomavali wlis biujetis proeqti ganixiles.

kacma rom hkiTxos deputatebs, biujetiyvelas adardebs da aRelvebs. amis

miuxedavad, mis ganxilvaze misvlisgan Taviar SeuwuxebiaT, ufro zustad Tu vityviT,ar uCqariaT. amitomac sxdoma dagvianebiTdaiwyo. ramdenime wuTis ganmavlobaSikvorumsac ki ver agrovebdnen. es Cveni

parlamentisTvis siaxle namdvilad ar aris.Cveni deputatebi an diliT ver iRviZebenadre, anda WiriviT ezarebaT parlamentSimisvla. arada, iq mosaxvedrad poziciac daopoziciac Tavebs ixocaven. sakmarisia iq

moxvdnen, rom Tu qudi ar Seugde, sxdomaTadarbazSi ar Sedian.

guSin am mxriv kidev arauSavda ra. daviT baqraZemkvorumi ramdenime wuTSi Sekriba da sxdomac daiwyo. friadkmayofili Canda daviT baqraZe. es gasakviri ar aris. mTavro-bam Turme parlamentis ramdenime moTxovna gaiTvaliswina.

mTavrobam biujetis saboloo variantSi parlamentisramdenime SeniSvna gaiTvaliswina. saqarTvelos 2012 wlissaxelmwifo biujetis proeqtis saboloo variants Tan ax-lavs kapitaluri biujetis danarTi, sadac warmodgeniliainformacia momaval wels dagegmil kapitalur proeqtebze.amiT ki mTavrobam parlamentis moTxovna gaiTvaliswina.

biujetis proeqtis saboloo variantSi aseve gaTva-liswinebulia SeniSvna, romlis Tanaxmadac, kanonproeqtisprogramuli biujetis danarTiT warmodgenili programebi-sa da qveprogramebis Sesrulebis Sefasebis indikatorebizog SemTxvevaSi aris zogadi xasiaTis, rac ar iZleva mosa-lodneli Sedegebis detaluri Sefasebis saSualebas.

_ _biujetis proeqtis saboloo variantSi daixvewazogierTi programisa da qveprogramis Sefasebis indikato-rebi, aseve zogierTi programa gaiSala ufro detalurad(kerZod, Sromis, janmrTelobisa da socialuri dacvis sami-nistros programebi), -_ aRniSnulia proeqtis danarTSi.

mTavroba da saparlamento umravlesoba biujetis pro-eqtiT aRfrTovanebuli arian. opozicia ki, rogorc wesi da

rigia, aRSfoTebuli da SeSfoTebulia.saparlamento umciresobis warmomadgeneli, erovnul-

demokratiuli partiis wevri guram CaxvaZe miiCnevs, rommTavrobis ekonomikuri gundi arakompetenturia. misi TqmiT.mTavrobis arakompetenturoba imaSi gamoixateba, rom maspolitikuri Sorsmxedveloba ar aqvs.

CaxvaZe eTanxmeba mTavrobas, rom qveyanaSi aris ekono-mikuri zrda, Tumca es zrda mxolod TviTmizani ki ar undaiyos, aramed mis sikeTes mTeli sazogadoeba unda grZnobdesda amas umuSevrobis Semcireba unda mosdevdes.

_ ekonomika izrdeba da statistikurad umuSevrobisniSnuli ar icvleba. mTavroba acxadebs, rom biujetis xar-jebi unda Semcirdes da ekonomikas meti fuli unda davuto-voT, magram rogor nawildeba is? 90 msxvil biznesze modisda mxolod 10 procenti -_ mcireze. dasaqmebulTa raodeno-bis 70 procenti msxvil biznesze modis da mxolod 30 procen-ti -_ mcire biznesze. mTavrobas mcire biznesi geris rolSiar unda hyavdes. problemas ori mizezi aqvs: ar arsebobskonkurentuli garemo da mcire biznesi saxelmwifos poli-tikis gareubanSia moqceuli, _ ganacxada guram CaxvaZem.

misi TqmiT, opozicias xSirad sayveduroben, rom araaqvs politikuri xedva, radgan xelisuflebas gansxvavebulreformebs sTavazobs.

CaxvaZis ganmartebiT, opoziciis reformebi niSnavs,rom qveyanaSi unda iyos sayovelTao dazRveva, sapensio daz-Rveva dagrovebis principze, umuSevrobis dazRveva, jan-dacvis xelmisawvdomoba, soflis meurneobaSi agrodazRve-vis damkvidreba, kooperaciuli sistemis xelSewyoba, subsi-direba da a.S.

Tavis gamosvlis dasasruls CaxvaZem imedi gamoTqva,rom momavali wlis biujetis ganxilvisas parlamentSi opo-ziciuri speqtri ufro meti raodenobiT iqneba warmodgeni-li da oponirebis Sedegad biujetis ukeTesi proeqti iqnebamiRebuli.

mTavrobis da nacionalebis naferebi biujetis proeq-ti daundoblad gaakritika gia cagareiSvilma. misi mtkice-biT, momavali wlis biujeti gaumWvirvalea. deputatis TqmiT,2000 wlis biujeti bevrad ufro gamWvirvale iyo.

Tavisi argumentebis gasamyareblad cagareiSvils ar-qivSi qeqvac ar dazarebia. moiZia 2000 wlis biujetis proeq-ti da sxdomaze bairaRiviT aafriala.

misi TqmiT, uSiSroebis saministro yovelTvis daxuru-li uwyeba iyo, magram 2000 wlis mTavar finansur dokumentSimisi dafinansebisaTvis gaTvaliswinebuli Tanxa 12 muxladiyo gaSlili da dakonkretebuli. dRes warmodgenil doku-mentSi ki Sinagan saqmeTa saministros dafinanseba mxolod 4muxlad aris Camoyalibebuli.

_ warmodgenili biujeti xalxisagan damalulia. yvelaxarji dafaruli da aratransparentulia. amis gamo mas mxarsver davuWerT, _ aRniSna gia cagareiSvilma.

isini biujetisTvis mxaris daWeras arc im SemTxvevaSiapirebdnen, iq bevri rame rom yofiliyo gamWvirvale.

cagareiSvilis mier amoqeqil 2000 wlis biujetis pro-eqtze yuradReba qarTuli dasis liderma jondi baRaTuri-amac gaamaxvila.

_ 2000 wels, rodesac, xelisuflebis SefasebiT, bnelida ukuni sufevda, proeqtSi uSiSroebis xarjebi gaSifruliiyo. is ki sakmaod gamWvirvele iyo. dRes Cven gvaqvs erTipunqti -_ samxedro xarjebi, romelic aravin ar icis, e.w.ndobis jgufis, 5 kacis garda. umciresobas am ndobis jgufSihyavs gia TorTlaZe da giorgi TargamaZe. danarCeni 3 wevriumravlesobaa, ramdenime Tvea gTxovT, rom fraqciisTvisgaTvaliswinebuli kvotiT masSi dimitri lorTqifaniZe Se-iyvanoT, magram ar SegyavT, _ ganacxada jondi baRaTuriam.

man biujetis proeqtSi sxva xarvezebic aRmoaCina. risgamoc mravalgzis gamoxata aRSfoTeba. deputati saakaSvi-lis qmedebiTac aris aRSfoTebuli.

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politologi soso

ciskariSvili miiCnevs,

rom xelisuflebam xeli

unda aiRos putiniseuli

vaidemokratiis mibaZvaze

da ruseTSi arsebuli rTuli

viTarebidan saTavisod

gakveTilebi unda

gamoitanos. `axali Taoba~

baton soso ciskariSvils

esaubra._ ramdenadac CemTvis cnobi-

lia, Tqven brZandebiT avtori do-kumentis `saqarTvelos moderniza-ciis gzamkvlevi~. ra igulisxmebaam dokumentSi?

_ es aris erT_erTi variantisaproeqto winadadebis, Cven vapi-rebT SevqmnaT garkveuli nawili`saqarTvelos demokratizaciisgzamkvlevis~, es gaxlavT dokumen-ti, romelic unda iyos sajaro sar-geblobisTvis gamoyenebuli, sazo-gadoebisTvis da dainteresebulisaerTaSoriso organizaciebis-Tvis. es warmoadgens originalurkompleqsur naSroms qveyanaSi de-mokratizaciis procesis ganviTa-rebis xelSesawyobad. am dokumen-tSi Sefasebuli iqneba dRevandelirealoba, aseve dasaxuli iqneba gze-bi, romelic aucilebelia gasavle-lad demokratiuli gardaqmnebiskuTxiT.

_ xom ar SexvdiT baton iva-niSvils da xom ar ganxilula mas-Tan Sexvedraze es dokumenti?

_ misi ganxilva ver moxdebo-da imitom, rom es dokumenti jer ararsebobs, Sesaqmnelia, me mqonda ba-

ton biZinasTan Sexvedra da sxva sa-kiTxebTan erTad visaubreT aseTinaSromis Seqmnis perspeqtivazec.

_ xelisufleba kanonmdeblo-baSi cvlilebebisTvis emzadeba,erT_erTi am cvlilebiT, adamians

ufleba rom mieces gaxdes parla-mentis deputati, is bolo sami we-li unda cxovrobdes saqarTvelo-Si. Tqven rogor afasebT am cvli-lebas?

_ imedi maqvs, amas araviTarikavSiri ara aqvs wina TemasTan, ro-melzedac axla vsaubrobdiT. ka-nonmdeblobis Wra_kerva xelisuf-lebis sruliad upirobo sakuTre-baa, amitom, roca undaT, maSin SeZ-leben cvlilebebis Setanas. aseTviTarebaSi garTuldeba samarTli-

soso ciskariSvili: `putins Sida problemebs

saqarTvelosTan omi ver mougvarebs~anobis gancdis damkvidreba sazo-gadoebaSi, samarTlianobis defi-citi dRemdec sakmaod mwvavea sa-zogadoebaSi.

_ rogor fiqrobT, SeZlebsbatoni ivaniSvili Tavisi gundiT

srulfasovnad miiRos monawileo-ba arCevnebSi?

_ mTavaria srulfasovnebaiyos amomrCevlebis mxridan. rac Se-exeba ivaniSvils da mis gunds, memgoni, isini moaxerxeben iseTi sta-tusis moZiebas, romelic xels Seuw-yobs qveyanaSi erTpolusiani poli-tikuri cxovrebis istoriis kuT-vnilebad gadaqcevas.

_ rogor afasebT saparlamen-to arCevnebs ruseTSi?

_ dRes ruseTSi adekvaturi

rea~lobaa. im velur demokrati-asTan mimarTebaSi, rasac amkvid-rebs putini da misi cnobierebismqone sxva xelmZRvanelebi. garkve-uli imedis momcemia mxolod is re-aqcia, romelic bolos da bolos

gaJRerda mkafiod dasavleli li-derebis mxridan, im tragikuliviTarebis gamo, rac ruseTSia Ta-visufali azris, Tavisufali me-diis da zogadad demokratiuliprocesebis mimarT. mTavaria Cvenswori gakveTilebi gamovitanoTTavad sakuTari moxmarebisTvis,xeli aviRoT garkveuli mibaZve-bisgan rusuli vaidemokratiis-Tvis.

_ Cikagos samitamde cnobi-li gaxda, rom natos aqvs oficia-luri dokumenti momzadebuli,romelSic makedoniasTan, Cerno-goriasTan, bosnia_hercogovinas-Tan erTad, saqarTveloc moxseni-ebulia natos partnior qveynad.xelisufleba amas afasebs, ro-gorc kidev erT wingadadgmul na-bijs natosTan daaxloebis Tval-sazrisiT. ruseTmac ukve daiwyomwvave gancxadebebis gakeTeba. ro-goria Tqveni komentari amaze?

_ saqarTvelo moxseniebuliromc ar yofiliyo am CamonaTval-Si, aravis unda eparebodes eWvi,

rom natosTan saqarTvelos akavSi-rebs partnioruli urTierTobebi.CemTvis mimzidvelia is faqti, romaseTma CamonaTvalma gaaRiziana dadaakargvina wonasworoba ruseTisxelisufalT, kidev ufro aSkaradwarmoaCines sakuTari imperialis-turi midrekilebebi samezoblos-Tan dakavSirebiT.

_ putins Sin daZabuli mdgo-mareoba aqvs, moskovTan da peter-burgTan erTad saprotesto aqci-ebma moicva ruseTis sxva mravali

qalaqi. aseT viTarebaSi, rogorfiqrobT, putini yuradRebis gada-tanis mizniT xom ar daiwyebs saqar-TvelosTan axal saomar moqmede-bebs, miT umetes, lavrovma ganacxa-da, rom dasavlelma kolegebma arunda ubiZgon saakaSvils 2008 wlisagvistos msgavsad kidev erTi avan-tiurisken?

_ Cemi Sen giTxario, guli mo-gikalio, aris aseTi gamoTqma, mag-ram Cven es etapi gaviareT da lav-rovis veranairi fraza guls ve-Rar mogviklavs da aRarc dasavle-Tia iseTi miamiti, rogorc SeiZle-ba sami wlis win yofiliyo. ar ga-movricxav, rom Sinagani areulobaruseTma gamoiyenos sakuTari usu-surobis gadasafarad, rasac hqviaantisaraketo sistemebis damonta-Jeba mimarTuli evropasa da sxvamezobeli qveynebisken. amisTvis masarc Sno aqvs, arc unari da racmTavaria, arc finansuri SesaZleb-loba. swored analogiurma var-skvlavuri omis safrTxem, romelicreiganis programa iyo, daSala sab-WoTa kavSiri, sruliad aSkara iyo,rom aseTi tipis qveyana ver SeZleb-da raime saxis konkurencias. axlaputinisa da medvedevis xmamaRaligancxadebebi, rom raRacas ar da-uSveben da samagiero nabijebs ga-dadgamen, aris mxolod ambiciurpolitikosTa gulis Zaxili da ara-nair gaTvlasa da ruseTis poten-cials ar Seesabameba. amitom gada-safari bevri aqvT erTmaneTis mi-marTac da SigniT saxelmwifoebri-vi problemebis mosagvarebladac,Tumca, yvelaze naklebi, rac moug-varebT raime tipis problemas qve-yanaSi, es gaxlavT sakuTari saz-Rvris gareT xelebis faTuri, ra-Sic imedi maqvs, rom Tavadac dar-wmundebian.

jondi baRaTuria: ̀ saakaSvilma 8 Tvis pensiebi motexa~

baRaTuria acxadebs, rom 2011wels prezidenti pensiebis motex-viT rekordsmeni aRmoCnda.

_ prezidentma da mTavrobampensionerebis 8 Tvis kuTvnili pen-sia miiTvises. amaze mowmobs is faq-ti, rom 67 wels zemoT myofi pensi-onerebisa da pirveli jgufis Sez-Ruduli SesaZleblobebis mqonepirTaTvis pensia 2012 wlis mxolodseqtembridan izrdeba. danarCeni 8Tvis Tanxa ki, misi TqmiT, preziden-tma miiTvisa. sxva kategoriis Sez-Ruduli SesaZleblobebis mqonepirTaTvis, 67 wlamde asakis pensi-onerTaTvis, marCenaldakargule-bisa da sxvebisaTvis ki pensia seq-tembridanac ki ar izrdeba. mainte-resebs, ra dauSaves am adaminebmaxelisuflebas.

pensiebis ase Ria, sajarod mo-texva da korufcia saqarTveloSiarasdros yofila, SevardnaZis dro-Sic ki. ukiduresad gaWirvebuli ada-mianebis xarjze drostareba, dis-koTekebze garToba Tu Txilamure-biT sriali mZime danaSaulia. mTav-robam momavali wlis saxelmwifobiujetSi opoziciis arc erTi Se-niSvna ar gaiTvaliswina imaze, romWama-ylapvisa da drostarebis xar-jebi moekloT da isini socialurxarjebSi miemarTaT. marto guda-urSi saakaSvilis mier Txilamure-biT Camosrielebis gamo qveyana 96milioni laris sagareo vals ima-tebs, _ aRniSna jondi baRaTuriam.

cagareiSvilis msgavsad, bi-ujetis mxardaWeraze manac kate-goriuli uari ganacxada da origi-naluri argumentebic moiyvana.

_ naTelia, rom 2012 wlis sa-xelmwifo bijeti xelisuflebis ji-bis, drostarebis, taS-fandurisada fantaziebis asrulebis~ biuje-tia, romelsac Cveni fraqcia mxarsar dauWers, _ ganacxada aRSfoTe-bulma deputatma.

biujetis proeqtiT aRfrTo-vanebulebi arc qristian-demokra-tebi darCenilan. maTi SefasebiT,

momavali wlis biujeti araadekva-turia.

_ SeveCvieT, rom mTavrobanel-nela Semogvaparebs xolme mi-lionebs. gvixaria, rom gadasaxa-debidan Semosuli Tanxa izrdeba,magram rac ufro izrdeba biuje-tis parametrebi, miT ufro araa-dekvaturi xdeba misi gadanawile-bis prioritetebi, _ aRniSna gior-gi axvledianma.

misi TqmiT, 2012 wlis saxel-mwifo biujetis proeqti mimdinarewlisaze 300 milioniT metia, mag-ram am Tanxidan mTavrobam 20 mili-onic ki ver gamoZebna, raTa pensia67 wlamde asakis pensionerebisTvi-sac gaizardos.

_ Turme 200 000 adamianisaT-vis pensiis 25 lariT gazrda dag-vaqcevs, welSi gagvtexs da qveyana-Si saberZneTisa da italiis msgavskriziss gamoiwvevs. pensiebis rao-denobis dadgenisas xelisuflebapensionerebs xan geografiuli daxan sxva niSniT hyofda. deputatsamjerad ainteresebT, Tu ratom iz-rdeba pensia mxolod 67 welze uf-rosi asakis pensionerebisa da pir-veli jgufis SezRuduli unarebismqone adaminebisaTvis da ratom za-raldebian danarCeni kategoriispensionerebi da marCenaldakargu-lebis ojaxebi, _ ambobs giorgi ax-vlediani.

misi TqmiT, daaxloebiT 2 mi-lion 700 aTasi lari iqneba saWiro46 000 veteranis dasazRvevad, ra-sac xelisufleba biujetSi asevear iTvalsiwinebs.

_ msoflios arc erT qveyana-Si ar arian veteranebi ise ignori-rebulni, rogorc saqarTveloSi, -_ aRniSna giorgi axvledianma.

man yuradReba kooperatiu-li binaTmSeneblobebiT dazarale-bul moqalaqeebzec gaamaxvila daaRniSna, rom maTTvis minimalurikompensaciis gacemis problemismogvareba mxolod 10 milioni la-riT SeiZleba, rasac politikurineba sWirdeba da a.S.

mis pasuxad finansTa minis-

trma dimitri gvindaZem ikiTxa, ra-Si mdgomareobs biujetis Tanxis ara-adekvaturi gadanawileba. misiTqmiT, biujetis dagegmvisas yurad-Reba imaze maxvildeba, rom qveyana-Si fiskaluri stabiluroba Senar-Cundes da mas maqsimalurad dadebi-Ti saldo hqondes.

_ Cven am yvelafers fxizladvadevnebT Tvals da depolitize-bul gadawyvetilebebs viRebT. Tqve-ni gamosvla ki politikuri da ara-ekonomikuria, -_ mimarTa axvledi-ans gvindaZem.

mTavrobas biujetis proeqtivice-spikerma levan vefxvaZemac da-uwuna.

rogorc man parlamentis ple-narul sxdomaze 2012 wlis saxel-mwifo biujetis proeqtis ganxil-visas ganacxada, biujeti 8 miliar-damde izrdeba, magram opoziciismier gamoTqmuli SeniSvnebis gaTva-liswineba mainc ar xdeba. vefxvaZemaqve qarTuli mxatvruli filmi `qe-To da kote~ gaixsena da aRniSna,rom finansTa ministrma dimitrigvindaZem biujetSi Sesatani cvli-lebebi `ise Caarakraka, rogorc qa-batom mziTevis CamonaTvali~.

_ 2012 wlis biujetSi ver ga-moinaxa Tanxa imisaTvis, rom vete-ranebi, meore jgufis invalidebi,marCenaldakargulebi daazRvionda Semweobebi gaizardos. vtraba-xobT raRac kongenialuri miRweve-biT, axali genialuri ideebi gvawu-xebs, magram ver vaZlevT im ojaxebssaxelmZRvaneloebs, visac es sWir-deba, _ aRniSna levan vefxvaZem.

misi TqmiT, sportis da axal-gazrdobis saqmeTa saministros 11milioni lari daumates, radganuceb axalgazrdoba gaaxsendaT daaqedan 6 milioni lari axalgazrdo-bisaTvis gaiTvaliswines.

_ ratom gagaxsendaT axalgaz-rdebi? SemTxveviT, arCevnebi xom araris? Tqven gagaxsendaT arCevnebida me gamaxsenda `naSistebi~, mos-kovSi rom darbian, romlebic msgav-si fuliT finansdebian. aseve Seq-mniT albaT `naSistebs~ am 6 milio-

niT da win da ukan arbeninebT~, _ganacxada levan vefxvaZem.

misma nacionalma kolegam mi-xeil maWavarianma opoziciis paTo-si daiwuna da biujetiT kidev er-Txel gamoxata aRfrTovaneba.

mixeil maWavarianis Sefase-biT, 2012 wlis saxelmwifo biujetisocialuri problemebis daZleva-zea orientirebuli.

_ saqarTvelo patara ekono-mikis qveyanaa da mas ara aqvs saSua-leba, hqondes daxuruli ekonomika.saqarTvelom pasuxi unda gasces mTa-var gamowvevebs. es aris evrozoni-sa da saerTo ekonomikuri krizisi.2012 wlis biujetSi ki asaxulia xe-lisuflebis pasuxismgebloba am ga-mowvevebze. opozicia arasodesmxars arc erT reformas ar uWerdada arc axla uWers. Tumca mTlianiSida produqtis 5 procentiT zrdaniSnavs qveyanaSi arsebuli prob-lemebis daZlevas. kerZod, soflismeurneobis ganviTarebas, jandac-vis da ganaTlebis xelmisawvdomo-

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bas da sxva. biujetSi asaxuli kon-kretuli programebi damatebiTiaTasobiT samuSao adgilia, _ aR-niSna mixeil maWavarianma.

misi TqmiT, 100 axali saavad-myofos programas Tavis droze mZi-me ekonomikuri foni daemTxva, mag-ram xelisuflebam mainc bolomdemiiyvana igi. axla ki mTavrobisTvismTavaria, jandacva iyos xarisxianida xelmisawvdomi.

maWavarianis mtkicebiT, war-matebebia mosalodneli soflis me-urneobis sferoSic.

_ mTavaria, saqarTvelom SeZ-los yvela produqtis maqsimalu-rad moyvana, gaizardos eqsporti.yvela programa, romelic asaxuliabiujetSi, mogvcems uflebas, mo-vagvaroT socialuri problemebiqveyanaSi, _ dasZina mixeil maWava-rianma.

maWavarianis garda biujetisxva nacionalebmac moiwones. mmar-Tveli gundi didxans trabaxobdamiRwevebiT.

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liani opoziciis winaaRmdegbrZola, cota rTulia maTTvis.

_ ivaniSvilis faqtorma xe-lisuflebis rRveva gamoiwvia angamoiwvevs? iTqva, nacionalurmoZraobas bevri sakvanZo figu-ra datovebso...

_ ar gamoiwvia, Cemi azriT,es momenti ukve gavida. naciona-lur moZraobaSi dapirispirebamudmivadaa, radgan es konglome-rati aris, Tumca is procesi, racivaniSvils unda gamoewvia, es va-da, me mgoni, gavida. iyo naciona-lur moZraobaSi garkveuli Si-Sebi Tu SfoTvebi oqtomber-no-emberSi, magram axla, erTgvaraddamSvidda procesi, radgan ara-vin elodeba ivaniSvilisgan, asevTqvaT, Sturms. ivaniSvili, ro-gorc Cans, sakmaod gawonaswo-rebuli da mSvidobiani mowina-aRmdegea.

_ Cven movalT umravleso-biT, yvelaferi kargad iqneba,_es miliarderis sityvebia. ro-gor apirebs ivaniSvili amas? xe-lisufleba gulxeldakrefiliar ijdeba...

_ amas Salva naTelaSvilicambobs, 20 welia, magram... ar vi-ci, rogor apirebs, Cven ivaniSvi-lis gundSi ar varT da misi kri-tika Cveni saqme ar aris. CemTvisrom ekiTxa Wkua, erT rames vur-Cevdi _ iseTi didi ndobis kre-diti hqonda mas oqtombris da-sawyisSi, rom sami Tve, romelicaxal wlamde iyo darCenili, sak-marisi iqneboda (ar vambob haer-ze, radgan aseTi ram Cven gagvi-keTebia ufro naklebi resursi-Tac) anu am sam TveSi mas Tavisuf-lad SeeZlo 500_mde dasaxlebulpunqtSi Caetarebina Sexvedra danaxevari milioni qarTvelisTvisCamoerTva xeli.

_ cudi mrCevlebi hyavs?_ ara, ar vici, SeiZleba

isini Cemze Wkvianebi arian daufro mokle da efeqturi gziTmidian. me, vambob imas, rasac vi-zamdi mis adgilas. vfiqrob, romamis gakeTeba axla SeuZlebelia,radgan im eiforiam gaiara. masaqvs sxva didi argumentebi, Ziri-Tadi misi argumenti aris bevridolari, romelic mas aqvs da, raTqma unda, bevri dolariT SeiZ-leba politikaSi Zlieri nabi-jebis gadadgma, magram vfiqrob,eiforiis koziri man, praqtiku-lad, dakarga. eiforia dRes araris da albaT, Sen TviTonac Se-amCnevdi, rom Tu ori Tvis winyvela metros vagonSi, maRazia-Si Tu sxvagan xalxi dilidan sa-Ramomde, rogorc murtalosa dakukaraCaze ivaniSvilze lapara-kobda, es ase aRar aris, TumcaivaniSvili mniSvnelovani faqto-ria. SeiZleba maT ukeTesi gegmaaqvT, ukeTesi mrCevlebi hyavs,ukeTesi strategia aqvT, magramCemi gadasaxedidan, es Sansi xe-lidan gaSvebulia.

_ ,,qarTuli ocnebis~ pre-zentaciaze Tu xarT miwveuli?saerTodac, ratom ar SemogTa-vazaT TanamSromloba ivaniSvil-ma?

_ ara, SemoTavazeba arcyofila da amaSi gasakviri arcaraferia.

_ ratom, iqneb imitom, ku-kavas partia prorusul Zaladrom miiCneva?

_ SeiZleba, mas ar gaukeTe-bia amasTan dakavSirebiT gancxa-debebi, amitom varaudebis ga-moTqmisgan Tavs Sevikaveb, erTiram aSkaraa _ respublikelebisada alasanis mimarT meti simpaTi-ebi aqvs, vidre zogadad danar-Ceni politikuri speqtris, maTSoris, Cven mimarT. ai, es faqtiada axla, ratom aqvs simpaTiebirespublikelebis mimarT, ar vi-ci, albaT, misi ideologia em-Txveva respublikelebis ideo-logias. man ase ganacxada, yovelSemTxvevaSi.

_ sazogadoebis nawils di-dad ar moswons respublikele-

bis ideologia, am partias arswyaloben...

_ arCevnebze gamoCndeba,xalxs ra moswons da ra ara. saer-Tod, sazogadoeba xSirad mou-lodnel arCevans akeTebs.

_ da Tqven ras apirebT?_ Cveni gegmebi da amoca-

naa, sazogadoebas SevTavazoTerTi mxriv alternatiuli xed-va. Cveni partia, faqtobrivad,erTaderTia politikur sivrce-

Si, romelic sazogadoebas sTa-vazobs ideologiurad gansxva-vebul kurss, radgan yvela sxvapartia ambobs _ miSa ar varga dame, rom moval, ukeTesad gavake-Teb imas, rasac miSa ver akeTebs.magaliTad, natoSi Sesvla swo-ria, ubralod, miSa ar varga danatoSi ver SevyavarT, magram Cvenrom movalT, SevalT natoSi. CvenvfiqrobT sxvanairad _ nato arvarga ideaSi, natoSi ar undaSevideT. saprezidento respub-lika ar varga ideaSi da sapre-zidento respublika ar undaiyos.

_ natoSi ratom ar undaSevideT?

_ imitom, rom afxazeTSiunda SevideT da ara natoSi. ne-itraliteti erT_erTi varian-tia, Cven dabalansebuli kursiunda gvqondes. ruseTs raSicvlanZRavT, amis did nawilSi xe-lisuflebas da opoziciis didnawilsac veTanxmebi. diax, ruse-Ti imperiaa da okupantia, magramCven, vambobT, rom aSS-c imperiaada, praqtikulad, aSS-c okupan-tia. amitom unda gvqondes war-modgenili Semdegi _ orivesganunda davixsnaT Tavi da unda gves-modes, Tu ruseTs Zalian davuax-lovdebiT, ruseTi gagvikeTebsimas, rac gagvikeTa, Tu aSS-s da-vuaxlovdebiT, analogiuri gve-lis.

_ da evraziis kavSirSi,romlis Seqmnasac putini gegmavs,unda SevideT?

_ iciT, jerjerobiT, pu-tini arafris Seqmnas ar apirebs,minda giTxraT, rom es arsebobssagazeTo statiis doneze da me-ti amis Sesaxeb aravin araferiicis. amitom, vfiqrob, rom is,rasac saakaSvili da misi xelisbiWebi axla laparakoben evra-ziis kavSirze, paranoiaa. evra-ziis kavSiri es aris, ai, rogorgiTxraT, daaxloebiT iseTiveram, me rom vTqva axla, cudi ariqneboda tao-klarjeTi erTdRes daubrundes deda-samSob-los da amis gamo kritika damiw-yon.

_ da lavrovis gancxadeba-ze ras ityviT _ SeaCereT svlanatosken, ra xdeba, ruseTi gvaf-rTxilebs?

_ iciT, Cven unda SeveCvi-oT da, ai, Tqven gonieri Jurna-listi xarT da kargi iqneba Tuamas Cveni Jurnalistebi gaake-

Teben, unda davaneboT ruseTisparanoidul Sefasebebs Tavi,rom, ai, lavrovma Tqva, natoskensvla unda SevaCeroT da vaime,ra uTqvams es ruseTs. ra arisamaSi aranormaluri? ruseTi daaSS orive imperiaa da imperie-bis bunebaa, arc erT imperias arsiamovnebs, rbilad rom vTqvaT,mis sazRvrebTan iyos sxva, meoreimperiis raRac sayrdeni werti-lebi ganlagebuli. Cven rom vam-

bobT, ruseTs ar unda amerikisZalebi ruseTis sazRvrebzeo,ra, aSS-s sazRvrebTan roca gan-lagda ruseTis Zalebi, kinaRamplaneta aafeTqes, amitom...

_ rusuli mxarec unda wa-movides daTmobebze, TiTs ki arunda gviqnevdes...

_ am SemTxvevaSi TiTi ardauqneviaT saqarTvelosTvis, esaSS-sken daqneuli TiTi iyo. raTqma unda, absoluturad, swo-ria Tqven rac brZaneT, Cven undagvesmodes, rom rogorc aSS-s ki-dia fexebze saqarTvelo da ro-gorc ruseTs da Tavis interese-bi adardebT, Cvenc ruseTi daaSS unda gvekidos fexebze, mag-ram fexebze ar unda gvekidosafxazeTi. Tu ruseTi gvetyvis,rom SeaCereT natosken svla daiqneba konkretuli molaparake-ba afxazeTis sakiTxze, xelisuf-lebas unda elaparakon, magram...

_ Tqven Tu gqoniaT am sa-kiTxze saubari ruseTis poli-tikur wreebTan, ras fiqroben?

_ mqonia am Temaze saubarida SemiZlia giTxraT, rom arismzadyofna. amaze mets me ver get-yviT da ratom _ me opoziciavar, CemTan ganixileba sakiTxiTeoriulad, me, ver vwyvet na-toSi saqarTvelos ar Sesvlas,magram SemiZlia giTxraT, rommaRali rangis politikosebs damoazrovneebs roca vesaubrebi,mzadyofna da interesi aris.CvenTan aris zogierTi fsevdo-eqsperti, romelic ambobs, romTurme ruseTs oCamCireSi sWir-deba samxedro_sazRvao baza. ax-la, amas arakompetenturobac kiar hqvia, sasaciloa. es niSnavs,rom araTu samxedro eqspertiar xar, ubralod, istoria arici elementalur doneze. ru-seTs sevastopolSi aqvs baza,iseTi, romelSic Cadebuli aqvsmiliardebi da strategiuli in-teresebi aqvs da novorosiis-kSic da, ai, oCamCireSi raSi sWir-deba es baza? oCamCireSi bazasWirdeba ara imitom, rom SavzRvaze poziciebi sWirdeba, ara-med imitom, rom afxazeTi Sei-narCunos da afxazeTi sWirdebaimisTvis, rom saqarTvelo Sea-kavos natoSi Sesasvlelad. To-rem ver naxavT msoflioSi vercerT eqsperts, romelic getyviT,rom oCamCiris bazas samxedrostrategiuli mniSvneloba aqvs,nulia misi mniSvneloba.

kaxa kukava: `ruseTi mzadaa afxazeTsa

da samaCabloze dagvelaparakos~qeTi xomeriki

rodis dabrundeba

qarTuli produqcia

ruseTis bazarze, ra

Sansi gauSva

ivaniSvilma, ratom unda

vTqvaT natoze uari,

dainiSneba Tu ara

vadamdeli arCevnebi da

ras apirebs kukavas

partia? ,,axali Taoba~

,,Tavisufali

saqarTvelos~ liders kaxa

kukavas esaubra.kaxa kukava:_ moxda mniSvnelovani faq-

ti, Tumca dRes, Seqmnil politi-kur fonze aravin miaqcia amasyuradReba _ batonma oniSenkomgaakeTa gancxadeba, rom iwyeba 7qarTuli kompaniis produqciisserTificireba.

_ kompaniebma uari TqvesruseTis bazarze dabruneba-zeo...

_ ara, ara, uari ar uT-qvamT, saerTod, am Temaze vrcel-deba bevri informacia, rom, ai,uari Tqves kompaniebma. imitomaris kompaniebi da ara erTi kom-pania, rom viRacam uari Tqva, vi-Racam _ ara. axla, rogor arisiciT, getyviT, ras niSnavs uariTqves. umravlesobas jer ar miu-marTvs, Tumca es ar niSnavs ua-ris Tqmas. realurad, uari Tqvaorma kompaniam _ Telianma velmada Telavis Rvinis maranma.

_ ratom, xelisuflebis Se-eSindaT?

_ SeiZleba arc SeeSeindaT,sxvebs ki jer rom ar miumarTavT,ar niSnavs uars. anu es kompanie-bi arian, ase vTqvaT, molodinisreJimSi da 7 kompaniaa, romel-mac ukve mimarTa. Cven, saerTod,SevecadeT, am procesis depoli-tizirebis mizniT dagveTmo amprocesis marTva saqarTveloseqsportiorTa asociaciisTvis(romelic Seiqmna), romelSic ga-wevrianebuli arian es kompanie-bi da maT mimarTes oniSenkos uw-yebas. guSinwin oniSenkom gaake-Ta gancxadeba, rom, ai, am 7 kompa-niis saqme aris miRebuli gansa-xilvelad da ukve ganixileba sa-qarTveloSi eqspertebis gamog-zavnis sakiTxi.

_ rodis dasruldeba esprocesi?

_ am sakiTxebs axla var-kvevT, amaze vmuSaobT. ar vici,axal wlamde ramdenad moxerxde-ba, yovel SemTxvevaSi, axlo mo-mavalSi dasruldeba, rac arisdidi gamarjveba, radgan aqamdesul laparakobdnen, rom, ai, ku-kava raRacas miqaravs, miedeba-moedeba da a.S. konkretuli kom-paniebia da am kompaniebs Tu un-daT da oniSenkosac Tu unda, ax-la, vera qobalias ra unda, egaRar aris aq ukve gadamwyveti.

_ prezidentisa da mmar-Tveli gundis reaqcia rogoriiqneba? ra emuqreba am 7 kompani-as?

_ xelisufleba piarisTvalsazrisiT iqneba Zalian gab-razebuli, magram realurad,vfiqrob, ver SeZleben am proce-sis dablokvas, radgan dRes xe-lisuflebas ar aqvs imis fufu-neba, rom es procesi SeaCeros.dRes xelisuflebas, bodiSiT amJargonze, magram zusti termi-nia aqvs JimJimi da ratom da ramizeziT, es Zalian kargad iciT.

_ ratom?_ ratom da gaCnda miliar-

deri, romelic maT winaaRmdegibrZvis. da ar aris es ambavi ad-vili mosagvarebeli, radgan isi-ni SeCveuli arian ZiriTadad,ufulo da Raribi opoziciis wi-naaRmdeg brZolas (es saqme kar-gad aqvT aTvisebuli) da, ai, fu-

`saxalxo kreba~

aSS-is elCis

saxelze mimarTvas

avrcelebs`saxalxo kreba~ amerikis elCis, jon

basis saxelze mimarTvas avrcelebs.mimarTvis mixedviT, amerikis SeerTe-

buli Statebisa da msoflio mediasaSuale-bebis yuradRebis centrSi moeqca foto, ro-melzec naTlad Canan kaliforniis universi-tetis mjdomare momitinge studentebi, ro-melTac erT-erTi policieli cremlsadengazs asxams. fotoze aRbeWdilma policie-lis qmedebam namdvili skandali gamoiwvia.aRniSnul faqtTan dakavSirebiT, sazogado-ebis mkveTr uaryofiT reaqciasa da protestsori policielisa da maTi zemdgomi piris _policiis ufrosiis gadadgoma mohyva.

`2011 wlis 26 maiss, saqarTveloSi, Tbi-lisSi, rusTavelis gamzirze, specdaniSnu-lebis razmebma da zonder brigadebma mSvi-dobiani momitingeebis winaaRmdeg Caataressadamsjelo specoperacia, rasac oTxi ada-mianis sicocxle da asobiT adamianis jan-mrTeloba emsxverpla. adgilze, borkileb-dadebul aqciis monawileebsa da Jurnalis-tebs Zalovanebi umowyalod, xelketebiTscemdnen da esrodnen rezinis tyviebs. Sem-deg ki dakavebulebi gadaiyvanes policiismTavar sammarTveloSi, sadac ukve kabine-tebSi sastikad awames.

Zalovanebis warmoudgeneli vandaliz-mi mTeli Ramis ganmav-lobaSi grZeldebodada uamrav kanondar-Rvevas Zalovanebisada zonderbrigadebismxridan pirdapireTerSi gadascemdaramdenime rogorcqarTuli, aseve ucxo-uri telekompania, ar-sebobs amis amsaxvelivideo da fotomasa-la, arasamTavrobo dasaerTaSoriso orga-nizaciebis daskvne-bi~,-aRniSnulia mimar-TvaSi.

`saxalxo krebis~ gancxadebis Tanaxmad,26 maisis dilas saqarTvelos dedaqalaqSiganviTarebuli movlenebis obieqtur gamoZi-ebas dRemde iTxovs rogorc `saxalxo kre-ba~, ise saerTaSoriso organizaciebi da mTe-li civilizebuli samyaro, Tumca, am moTxov-nas realuri da adekvaturi Sedegi ar mohyo-lia. maTive TqmiT, `saxalxo kreba~ da misimomxreebi, saqarTveloSi swored iseTi de-mokratiis moTxovniT marTavdnen saprotes-to aqciebs, rogoric Cvens partnior qveyana-Si _ amerikis SeerTebul StatebSi da sxvademokratiul qveynebSia, sadac yvelaze mTa-vari Rirebuleba _ adamianis Tavisuflebasaxelmwifosagan aris daculi, sadac kano-nis winaSe yvela Tanasworia da CadenilidanaSaulisaTvis pasuxs yovelTvis agebendamnaSaveebi. Cven iseTi demokratiisaTvisvibrZviT, rogoric did britaneTSia, sadacukanono satelefono mosmenebTan dakavSire-biT, Tanamdeboba _ skotland iardis xel-mZRvanelma datova, xolo damnaSave polici-elebi daisajnen~,-naTqvamia mimarTvaSi.

amave mimarTvis mixedviT, amerikis Se-erTebuli Statebis xelisuflebam kalifor-niis universitetSi momxdar incidentze umal-ve adekvaturi reagireba moaxdina da damna-Saveebi daisajnen.

`TvliT Tu ara, rom saqarTvelo meore-xarisxovani qveyanaa, sadac xelisuflebis uka-nono qmedebebi SeiZleba gamouZiebeli da da-usjeli darCes da iziarebT Tu ara pozicias,rom 26 maiss rusTavelis gamzirze uxarisxoqarTvelebi videqiT? ratom ar moiTxovT ka-tegoriulad Tqvens mier upirobod mxarda-Werili saqarTvelos xelisuflebisagan 26maisis movlenebis obieqtur gamoZiebas da dam-naSaveebis dasjas? miT ufro, rom bevri ada-miani saqarTveloSi swored Tqvens mier, 2011wlis 25 maiss, gakeTebul gancxadebas aRiq-vams xelisuflebisaTvis mwvane Suqis anTe-bad. 26 maisis movlenebis gamo `saxalxo kre-bis~ 400 momxre ukanonod gasamarTlda admi-nistraciuli wesiT, 39 adamiani ki dakavebu-lia da mogonili braldebiT sisxlis samar-Tlis pasuxismgebloba elis. maTze da maTiojaxis wevrebze, mimdinareobs mudmivi fsi-qologiuri da fizikuri zewola, rom ro-gorme aRiarebiTi Cveneba miaceminon ar arse-bul danaSaulze. rac yvelaze mTavaria, yve-la am saqmeze ar arsebobs aranairi mtkicebu-leba garda policielebis cru Cvenebisa.

Cven gvinda imedi viqonioT, rom ameri-kis SeerTebuli Statebisa da sxva demokra-tiuli qveynebisaTvis miuRebelia ormagistandartebi, miT ufro demokratiis iseTfundamentalur safuZvlebze, rogoric ada-mianis uflebebis dacva gaxlavT~,-naTqvamiamimarTvaSi. interpresniusi

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naTia xurcilava

akademikosma nugzar bokuCavam

CvenTan interviuSi ori

qarTvelis, sxvadasxva epoqis

Svilis samSoblosadmi

siyvarulisa da Tavganwirvis

im magaliTebze isaubra,

romelic yvela droSi iqneba

misabaZi._ batono nugzar, CemTvis cnobi-

lia, rom Tqven muSaobdiT Temaze, rome-lic ori qarTvelis gmirul cxovreba-zea. gviambeT am istoriis Sesaxeb.

_ isini sxvadasxva dros, sxvadas-xva epoqaSi daibadnen. ZirZvel tradi-ciul qarTul ojaxebSi gaizardnen da davaJkacdnen, im oja-xebSi, sadac Taobebs odiTganve maRali zneobis, sulierebi-sa da patriotizmis suliskveTebiT zrdidnen. samSoblosada moyvasis siyvaruls unergavdnen. gerasime arCuaZisa dasergo (xviCa) bokuCavas silaResa da xalas vnebian siyvarulsmoklebuli, magram rainduli, xanmokle gmiruli cxovreba,romelic saqarTvelos damoukideblobisa da Tavisufle-bisTvis brZolas Seewira, wylis ori wveTiviT hgavs erTma-neTs.

gerasime 1921 wels, damoukidebel saqarTveloSi sab-WoTa ruseTis jarebis SemoWramde iunkerTa saswavlebelSisabrZolo xelovnebis safuZvlebs gansakuTrebuli mondome-biT eufleboda, sergo ki 1992 wels ucxo enaTa institutSiswavlobda. niWieri studenti da perspeqtiuli sportsme-ni, aRmosavluri orTabrZolebis ostati, araerT turnir-Si gamarjvebuli gaxldaT.

_ Tqven ambobT, rom es ori istoria, miuxedavad imisa,rom movlenebi sxvadasxva dros viTardeba, erTmaneTs hgavsda aq mTavari gmirobis istoriaa?

_ diax. TanatolTagan biWebi SromismoyvareobiT,gamWriaxobiTa da mamacobiT gamoirCeodnen. magram im xaneb-Si saqarTveloSi datrialebulma tragikulma movlenebmagerasimesa da sergos saswavleblebis damTavrebis saSua-leba ar misca. isini TiTqos grZnobdnen moaxloebul ube-durebas, mtkivneulad ganicdidnen yovelives da samSob-losTvis Tavgasawirad Sinaganadac emzadebodnen. maSinisini mxolod Tvrameti wlis iyvnen.

1921 wlis Tebervali idga, maxsendeba kolau nadira-Zis es striqonebi: `Tovda da Tbiliss ebura Talxi, dumdaqveyana da dumda xalxi~. zustad gamoxatavs im ganwyobas,romelic maSin sufevda. ruseTis bolSevikuri wiTeli ar-mia, romelsac qarTvelTmoZule da moRalate sergo orjo-nikiZe damoukidebeli saqarTvelos asaoxreblad da pro-letaruli diqtaturis dasamyareblad win mouZRoda, Tbi-liss gars Semoewyo.

kojor-tabaxmelis velze, sadac rusebi da sxva aTasijuris gadamTielni niaRvrad moedinebodnen, samkvdro-sasi-cocxlo brZola gaimarTa. am usamarTlo da uTanasworobrZolaSi iunkerebma saarako gmiroba gamoiCines. aseulma,romelsac gerasime arCuaZe meTaurobda, medgari winaaRmde-goba gauwia mters, araerTxel ukuagdo da mniSvnelovanistrategiuli simaRleebis dakavebis ufleba ar misca mas.wiTeli bandebis Semotevas bolo ar uCanda. am umZimes brZo-laSi iunkerebs tyvia-wamali TandaTan gamoeliaT da gerasi-me iZulebuli gaxda, TbilisSi Rame, malulad Camosuliyo dadaxmarebisTvis Tavisi biZaSvilis, SeZlebuli vaWris, kolaarCuaZisaTvis miemarTa. is daexmara, miuxedavad sirTulee-bisa. imave Rames uSova tyvia-wamali, datvirTa da damSvido-bebisas gzad mimaval Wabuks moridebiT sityva daadevna _gerasime, Zmao, xom xedav, brZolis gagrZelebas azri araaqvs, Tbiliss bolSevikebi ikaveben, aravis indoben da TavsSenc nuRar daiRupavo. pasuxia saintereso: _ rad Rirs kacissicocxle, Tu igi samSoblos TavisuflebisTvis brZolaSiar daixarjebao.

_ Tanamedroveobam moitana, rom TiTqos patriotizmi,samSoblos siyvaruli nivelirebulia. ras ityviT?

_ swored amitom erTiorad izrdeba aseTi gmirobisistoriebis magaliTebis Tanamedrove axalgazrdebisTvisgacnoba. isev rom davubrundeT iunkerTa brZolas, didxansigeriebda iunkerTa razmi gaveSebuli mtris xrovas, male estyvia-wamalic gauTavdaT, maSveli ki arsaidan Canda, maTirigebi TandaTan mcirdeboda, Tumca ukan daxevaze arc ufiq-riaT. sxva gza ar iyo, gerasimesa da mis biWebs xelCarTulbrZolaSi mouxdaT Cabma. sisxlis Rvra gvian Ramemde gag-rZelda. warmoudgeneli SemarTebiT irjebodnen qarTvelivaJkacebi, mtris gvamebiT aavses veli magram es Rame ukanas-kneli aRmoCnda gerasimesa da misi TanamebrZolebisTvis,isini raindulad, warbSeuxrelni Seegebnen sikvdils, im rwme-niT, rom odesme Tavisufali, bednieri da ukvdavi iqnebodasaqarTvelo.

dramatulad ganviTarda Semdgomi movlenebi. im dRe-ebSi sofel zemo barSi, arCuaZeebis ojaxSi, didi Tu patarasaqorwino mzadebiT iyo dakavebuli. gerasimes erT-erTi damezobel sofelSi Txovdeboda. qorwili SabaT dRes iyodaniSnuli. gerasimes daRupvis ambavi mamam, iakofma Tbili-sidan Casuli axloblisagan Seityo, gaognebulma xma veramoiRo, gairinda, Semdeg saxls karga manZiliT moscilda,ise, rom aravis enaxa da gulmokluls, TiTqosda ganwirulikacis gminva aRmoxda. male gons moego, damSvidda, axlob-lebTan saswrafo saqme moimizeza da Tbiliss gamoemgzavra.didxans eZeba mamam Svili, erT xans misi povnis imedic gadae-wura, magram bolos mixeilis saavadmyofos morgSi sruliadSemTxveviT miagno. aq igi did winaaRmdegobas waawyda. ofi-cialurad saavadmyofodan cxedris gadasveneba SeuZlebe-li gaxda, radgan maSindeli sabWoTa xelisuflebis mierqarTveli iunkerebi qveynis moRalateebad iyvnen Seracxul-ni da saavadmyofodan aleqsandres baRSi, winaswar amoT-xril erT did ormoSi yvelas erTad upirebdnen Cayras.

iakofma da kola arCuaZem morgidan cxe-dari Cumad wamoiRes. TuTiis WurWelSiCaasvenes da, eWvi rom aravis Sehparvoda,cxenebisTvis gankuTvnili sabargo vago-niT gadaasvenes quTaisSi. quTaisidan sat-virTo avtomanqaniT, mere ki urmiT, ro-gorRac soflamde zemo baramde saRamosaaRwies. qorwilis damTavrebamde gera-simes cxedari soflidan mocilebiT, sa-Tib-saZovrebSi gadamales.

metad mZime aRmoCnda ojaxisTvis,gansakuTrebiT dedisTvis Semzaravi si-marTlis gamJRavneba. sofels rom ar gae-go, dedam Svili xmis amouRebliv, cxe-dars damxobilma gulamoskvniT daitira.imave saRamos gerasime `Wabos mTavaran-gelozis~ eklesiis ezoSi yovelgvari ri-tualis, saflavze saxelisa da gvaris mi-niSnebis gareSe, saidumlod dakrZales,vinaidan arsebobda safrTxe, maSindeli

xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebs bolSevikebis winaaRmdegmebrZoli `moRalate~ qarTveli iunkeri amoeRoT saflavi-dan da ukvalod gadaekargaT an tyeSi mxecTa sajijgnadmiegdoT.

ojaxi didi riskis fasad, wlebis manZilze icavda dauvlida samSoblosaTvis Tavganwiruli gmiris gerasimearCuaZis saflavs. mxolod saqarTvelos damoukideblobisgamocxadebis Semdeg gaxda cnobili da dResac ara mxolodarCuaZeebis STamomavloba, aramed qarTveli sazogadoeba,sofeli amayobs da sasoebiT uvlis vaJkacis samudamo sasu-fevels.

_ batoni nugzar, ro-

goria Cveni Tanamedro-ve sergo bokuCavas gmi-robis istoria?

_ `me dasaRvreladmedardvis sisxli~, racar unda did istoriaswerdes is. im tragikulimovlenebidan mravalmawelma ganvlo, saqarTve-lom 1991 wels aRasrulaxalxis neba, qveyanaSi Ca-

tarebuli sayovelTao referendumis Sedegad sabWoTa kav-Siris respublikebidan man erT-erTma pirvelma miaRwia da-moukideblobas, umokles droSi moipova sayovelTao aRia-reba da dasabami daudo sabWoTa kavSiris rRvevas. qveynisaRmSeneblobas aravin da araferi uSlida xels, igi swrafadviTardeboda, rac ruseTis xelisuflebis aSkara Sursa dagaRizianebas iwvevda. saqarTvelos dasasjelad rusulmakargad momzadebulma borotebis manqanam kvlav moaxerxaTavisi erTguli dampyrobluri zraxvebis ganxorcieleba.SinaaSlilobebisa da sisxliani urTierTdapirispirebis pro-vocireba, `orjonikiZeebisa~ da mis msgavsTa mier WeSmari-tad erovnuli xelisuflebis gandevna da bolos qveynisafxazeTis omSi CaTreva. saqarTvelo kvlav gansacdeliswinaSe aRmoCnda. qudze kacis gamoyvana gaxda saWiro. Tbi-lisSi samxedro mobilizacia mimdinareobda, iqmneboda moxa-liseTa razmebi, romlebic gamarjvebis rwmeniT gulanTe-bulni pirdapir frontis xazisken mieSurebodnen.

_ sergo bokuCava Tqveni ZmisSvili iyo. albaT rTuliamasze saubari, Tumca SeiZleba advilic iyos, radgan misigmirobis istoria unda mogviyveT...

_ sergo bokuCavam mSoblebisagan farulad ramden-jerme scada, samxedroebs gahyoloda, magram Cvidmeti wlisiyo da uariT istumrebdnen. bolos mainc moaxerxa, moxalise-Ta im jgufSi Caweriliyo, romelmac gamTeniisas afxazeTisa-ken aiRo gezi, diliT ki misma patara Zmam, jabam, magidazebaraTi ipova, ar gauxsnia, pirdapir mamas miurbenina. jon-dom baraTs daxeda da Secba, saxe Seefakla, TiTqos raRacasmixvda, baraTi frTxilad gaSala da striqonebs Tvali gaa-devna:

is werda: Cemo sayavrelo mSoblebo, am baraTs romwaikiTxavT, ukve Sors viqnebi, mapatieT, Cemi ganzraxvisSesaxeb winaswar rom ar gagafrTxileT, Tqvens mZime reaqciasmoveride, Cemi dardi nu geqnebaT, me erTi im qarTvelTaganivar, romlisTvisac yvelaze mTavari samSoblos siyvarulia.xom ar dagaviwydaT, rom yovelTvis am rwmeniT mzrdidiT.gana SevZlebdi, Soridan mecqira imisTvis, Tu mteri TavisibinZuri, sisxliani xelebiT rogor Seuracxyofda Cems qveya-nas, Cems xalxs. ver SevZlebdi, am saSinel tkivils gavmklave-bodi. kidev erTxel gTxovT, mapatioT da gwamdeT, gamarjve-buli dagibrundebiT. Tu ase ar moxda, bednieri viqnebi, romCemi sisxli saqarTvelos TavisuflebisaTvis brZolaSi da-iRvreba. mSvidobiT, Cems jabunias akoceT. Tqveni serguSa.

baraTis wakiTxvis Semdeg mamamisi didxans ijda garin-debuli, mere mZimed amoioxra da cremlmoreulma TavisTvisamayad Cailaparaka _ kargad ar mcnobixar, Svilo, vaJkacigamizrdixar!

afxazeTidan qarTuli jiSisa da qarTuli sulis amosa-Zirkvad uwyvet nakadad Semodiodnen zombirebuli rusuliarmiis SenaerTebi, kazakebi, kremlis mier daqiravebuliCeCnebis bandituri dajgufebebi, Crdilokavkasielebi. qar-TvelTa winaaRmdeg gaerTiandnen bagramianis batalionis

meomrebad wodebuli adgilobrivi Tu iq Casuli somxebi da,rasakvirvelia, TviT afsuebi, romlebic gansakuTrebulisisastikiT gamoirCeodnen. ar indobdnen qarTvel mosaxleo-bas, xocavdnen, awiokebdnen, devnidnen da sakuTari karmida-modan erekebodnen.

moxaliseTa razmi, romelsac sergo gahyva, saRamosoCamCireSi, sofel aradusTan dabanakebul batalions swo-red aseT umZimes viTarebaSi pirdapir brZolis dros Seuer-Tda. miuxedavad imisa, rom mebrZolebi Zalian sWirdebodaT,batalionis xelmZRvanelobam axalwveulebi, romelTac sam-xedro gamocdileba ar hqondaT miRebuli, maT Soris sergocinstruqtaJisa da specialuri wvrTnisTvis ramdenime dRiTzurgSi gadaagzavnes, Tumca, isinic maleve CaerTvnen brZo-laSi.

sul mokle xanSi sergom gasaocari mamacobisa da sab-rZolo gamWriaxobisTvis TanamebrZolTa ndoba da siyvaru-li daimsaxura. qvemexebis grialsa da tyviebis wvimaSi, brZo-lis velsa Tu gayinul talaxian sangrebSi megobrebisadmiTanadgomam, uimedo viTarebidan daWrili jariskacebis ga-moyvanam, xelCarTul brZolaSi mowinaveobam ufro meti rwmenaSesZina, daavaJkaca da uSiSar raindad Camoayaliba igi. maSinbiWebma metsaxelad sakamod cnobili, erTi amerikeli hero-ikuli filmis gmiris `rembos~ saxelic ki Searqves. sergosmamacobis ambavma TbilisSic CamoaRwia. ganusazRvreli sixa-ruli ganicades da siamayis grZnobiT aRivsnen mSoblebi.

rodesac frontidan we-rili miiRes, sadac ser-gos meTaurebi madlobasuxdidnen maT RirseulimamuliSvilisa da gonie-ri, uSiSari jariskacisaRzrdisTvis.

sergos erT-erTiTanamebrZoli ixsenebda:misi sabrZolo SemarTe-ba da Jini megobrebs op-timizmiT aRgvavsebda,gvamxnevebda, kritikulsituaciebSi winac mig-viZRoda. masTan imedia-nad viyaviT da erTadbrZolac gviadvildebo-da.

_ Tu iciT gadmo-cemiT rame istoria brZo-lis velidan?

_ noembris civi danisliani saRamo iyo. ro-

gorc momiyvnen, mniSvnelovan strategiul obieqtze Sete-visTvis vemzadebodiTo. uceb gadamcemiT informacia miuRi-aT, samiode kilometris daSorebiT mitovebul saxlSi ruse-bi da afsuebi tyved ayvanil or qarTvel awamebdnen. ramdeni-me biWi sergos meTaurobiT im saxlisaken wasula, nislSiibrZodnen, ori rusi kazaki da erTi afsua boZebze jaWviTmibmul qarTvel jariskacebs saxesa da mucelSi gametebiTurtyamdnen avtomatis kondaxebs. sasikvdilod gametebulibiWebi samSvidobos gamouyvaniaT. Seteva, romlisTvisac ba-talioni emzadeboda, rTulad, magram mainc warmatebiT das-rulda. strategiulad marTlac Zalze mniSvnelovani obieq-ti iqna dakavebuli. mteri ukuiqca ise, rom uamravi cocxaliZala da sabrZolo teqnika dakarga. biWebma daWrili jaris-kacebi gamoiyvanes brZolis velidan. zogs Wrilobebi gada-uxvies, ufro mZimed daWrilni savele hospitalSi gadaag-zavnes. maT naomar, najaf saxeebze ki gamarjvebiT miRweulibednierebis Rimili dasTamaSebdaT.

qarTuli sajariso SenaerTebis winsvla mTel rig ad-gilebze Seuqcevadi gaxda. mteri maT SeCerebas ver axerxeb-da. TiTqos erTgvari gardatexis Jamic dadga. imedianadSehyurebdnen momavals jojoxeTur qarcecxlSi gamovlili,gamarjvebis rwmeniT SemarTuli ymawvilebi, magram, moxdais, rasac aravin eloda.

_ Tqven gulisxmobT ukandaxevis brZanebas?_ diax. uTanasworo brZolaSi araerTi qarTveli vaJ-

kacis mier daRvrili sisxlis fasad mopovebuli poziciebisdaTmobisa da ukandaxevis brZaneba centridan miiRo batali-onma. amgvari brZanebebi xSirad sxva qarTul SenaerTebsacmisdiodaT. es iyo aSkarad kidev erT Ralati, Ralati ufli-sa da eris winaSe. imxanad saqarTvelos teritoriuli mTli-anobis sakiTxsa da beds samxedro sabWo wyvetda... TiTqoseloda am saCuqars mteri, brZolebiT ukan daxeuli batali-oni masirebuli cecxlis alSi gaexvia da Semdeg mTeli Zale-biT Setevaze gadavida. es brZola sabediswero da ukanaskne-li aRmoCnda sergosaTvisac. xelCarTul brZolaSi gawa-fuls, pirispir rom veraferi daakles, boRmiTa da Rvar-ZliT sulwabilwulma, Casafrebulma afsuebma daWrili me-omris gamoyvanis dros qurdulad, zurgidan dacxriles vaJ-kaci. savele hospitalSi misi gadarCena ver SeZles. sikvdi-lis win eqimebs sTxova, me rom biWi gamoviyvane, aucilebladgadaarCineT, dediserTaao, Semdeg yvelas gauRima da saope-racio magidaze samudamod daxuWa Tvali. im dRes Tvrametiwlis gaxda.

ubedurebisa da aRuwereli tkivilis zarma mZimedSemohkra bokuCavebis ojaxSi. TbilisSi, rusTavelis pros-peqtze, sakuTar saxlSi gadmosvenebuli, samSoblos winaSevalmoxdili gmiris sergo bokuCavasadmi pativis misagebadyoveldRiurad auracxeli xalxi mieSureboda. maT Sorisiyvnen misi TanamebrZolebi, sxvadasxva samxedro SenaerTiswevrebi, meTaurebi.

1992 wlis 6 dekembers sergo bokuCava vakis sasaflao-ze, misi Rirseuli winaprebis gverdiT, sruli samxedroritualis dacviT dakrZales. saocaria, magram faqtia, radrosac ar unda mivideT, mis saflavze axali Taigulis konagvxvdeba. Zalian mainteresebs, vin SeiZleba iyos amis avtori.SeiZleba, es mis did siyvaruls ukavSirdeba.

dRes es gmirebi miviwyebulni arian, arada, samSoblosdamoukideblobisa da erTianobisTvis TavSewiruli rain-debi saqarTvelos ukvdavebis kidev erTi naTeli gamoxatu-lebaa.

gmirebs dro verafers aklebs

ra saerToaqvT

saqarTvelosTvisdaRupulbiWebs

gerasime arCuaZe

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10 dekemberi, adamianis uflebaTadacvis dRe, saqarTveloSi sxvadasxvaRonisZiebiT aRiniSneba. 1948 wlis 10 de-kembers gaerTianebuli erebis organi-zaciis generalurma asambleam adamia-nis uflebaTa Sesaxeb sayovelTao dek-laracia miiRo da es dRe yvela im qveya-naSi aRiniSneba, romelic am deklaraci-as aris mierTebuli.

adamianis uflebaTa saerTaSori-so dRis aRsaniSnavad guSin gaimarTamrgvali magida `Sekrebisa da manifes-taciis ufleba: kanonmdebloba da praq-tika~.

RonisZieba gaxsna saqarTvelos sa-xalxo damcvelma giorgi tuRuSma. sit-yviT gamovidnen evropis sabWos saqar-Tvelos ofisis xelmZRvaneli katerinaboloneze da gaeros adamianis ufleba-Ta dacvis umaRlesi komisariatis adami-anis uflebaTa mTavari mrCeveli vladi-mir Skolnikovi. ganixiles saerTaSori-so sazogadoebis moxseneba _ Sekrebisada manifestaciis uflebis dacvis saer-TaSoriso standarti, adamianis ufle-baTa evropuli sasamarTlos uaxlesipraqtika.

veneciis komisiis Tavmjdomarismoadgilem simona granata manginim isa-ubra veneciis komisiis moxsenebaze _ eu-Tosa da veneciis komisiis wesebi/gaid-lainebi Sekrebisa da manifestaciis uf-lebaze.

veneciis komisiis moxsenebas saqar-Tvelos kanonze Sekrebisa da manifesta-ciebis Sesaxeb warmoadgina veneciis ko-misiis Semcvlelma wevrma, saxelmwifomdivanma strategiul sakiTxebSi, rumi-neTis sagareo saqmeTa saministros war-momadgenelma bogdan aureskum.

saxalxo damcvelma giorgi tuRuS-ma waradgina sakuTari xedva saqarTve-loSi Sekrebebisa da manifestaciis Ta-visuflebis realizaciasTan da arsebulproblemebTan dakavSirebiT. kerZod, sa-xalxo damcvelma aRniSna, rom saqarTve-lo aris saxelmwifo, sadac Sekrebebida manifestaciebi sakmaod xSirad imar-Teba. amavdroulad misi srulyofilirealizaciis uzrunvelyofa sakmaod kom-pleqsur sakiTxs warmoadgens da sxva-dasxva uwyebebis Zalisxmevas moiTxovs.aucilebelia saxelmwifom, Sekrebebisada manifestaciebis Tavisuflebis sru-li realizaciis mizniT, uzrunvelyosyvela saTanado pozitiuri RonisZiebisganxorcieleba, amavdroulad saxelmwi-fom maqsimalurad unda Seikavos TaviaRniSnul TavisuflebaSi uxeSi da ara-marTlzomieri Carevisagan.

moxsenebebi aseve warmoadgines sa-qarTvelos axalgazrda iuristTa aso-ciaciis Tavmjdomarem Tamar CugoSvil-ma, konstituciis 42-e muxlis Tavmjdoma-rem nazi janezaSvilma, samarTliani ar-Cevnebis aRmasrulebelma direqtorma ni-no lomjariam.

mrgval magidaSi monawileoba mii-Res saqarTvelos sakonstitucio sasa-marTlos Tavmjdomaris moadgilem, par-lamentis wevrebma, mosamarTleebma, Si-nagan saqmeTa saministros, mTavari pro-kuraturis, saerTaSoriso da adgilob-rivi arasamTavrobo organizaciebis war-momadgenlebma.

rodesac adamianis uflebebze mi-dis saubari, upirveles yovlisa, patim-rebs axseneben xolme, radganac erT-er-Ti kategoria adamianebisa, visi ufle-bebic dRes irRveva, swored patimrebiarian. marTalia, saxelmwifo ar aRia-rebs, magram saqarTveloSi arian polit-patimrebic. politpatimrebis umravle-soba ki swored manifestaciebSi monawi-leobisaTvis sxedan cixeSi.

organizacia `yofili politpatim-rebi _ adamianis uflebebisaTvis~ infor-maciiT, 2011 wels e.w. politpatimarTaraodenobam istoriul maqsimums miaR-wia. organizaciaSi acxadeben, rom acno-bes, 2011 wlis 26 maiss saqarTvelos is-toriaSi pirvelad xelisuflebam yve-laze didi sisastikiT daarbia protes-tis gamomxatveli momitingeebi, moklamitingis 4 monawile, sxeulis sxvadasxvadazianeba miayena da administraciuliwesiT gaasamarTla ramdenime aseuli maT-

gani, xolo ramdenime aTeul momitinge-ze ganaxorciela sisxlis samarTlebri-vi devna da maT sxvadasxva vadiT Tavi-suflebis aRkveTa Seufarda.

organizaciis gancxadebiT, welssaqarTveloSi gardaicvala yvelaze me-ti patimari, rac ki manamde romelimewels gardacvlila saqarTvelos peni-tenciur sistemaSi. maTive mtkicebiT, af-xazeTidan da cxinvalis regionidan dev-nili mosaxleoba 2011 wels saqarTvelosxelisuflebis mxridan mudmiv devna-Se-viwroebasa da Rirsebis Semlaxvel mop-yrobas ganicdida.

_ wels saqarTvelos mosaxleobi-saTvis komunalurma gadasaxadebma is-toriaSi arsebul maqsimums miaRwia. 2011wels istoriul maqsimums miaRwia saqar-Tvelos samomxmareblo bazarze arse-bulma fasebma. 2011 wels istoriul maq-simums miaRwia saqarTveloSi umuSevar-Ta raodenobam, xolo siRatakis zRvarsqvemoT mcxovrebTa raodenobam 3,5 mili-onian qveyanaSi milions gadaaWarba, _ganacxades organizaciaSi.

maTive TqmiT, 2011 wels xelisuf-leba warmatebiT agrZelebda iseTi sa-kanonmdeblo cvlilebebis ganxorciele-bas, romelic mimarTuli iyo moqalaqeTauflebebis SezRudvisa da gaRatakebis-ken da xelisuflebisaTvis uflebebis up-recedentod gazrdisken.

_ 2011 wels, istoriaSi pirvelad,saqarTvelos penitenciur sistemaSi gan-Tavsebul da pirobiT msjavrdebulTaraodenobam iseT dones miaRwia, rom 100aTas mosaxleze braldebulTa da msjav-rdebulTa raodenobis mixedviT Cvenmaqveyanam msoflio lideris pozicia dai-kava, _ Tqves organizaciaSi.

politpatimrebze vsaubrobdiT daerT-erTi maTgani, anzor mezvriSvilisasjels rusTavis #17 sasjelaRsrule-bis dawesebulebaSi ixdis. mis intere-sebs adamianis uflebaTa centris iuri-diuli jgufis xelmZRvaneli nino andri-aSvili icavs.

cota xnis win anzor mezvriSvilsZma daeRupa. saqarTvelos kanonmdeblo-biT mas hqonda ufleba, werilobiT mie-marTa cixis direqtorisTvis da eTxova,miecaT ufleba sakuTari Zmis dakrZal-vaze misuliyo.

anzor mezvriSvilma marTlac mi-marTa werilobiT cixis ufros laSabregvaZes. Tumca patimars werilis re-gistraciis nomeri ar misces. gaurkveve-lia, saerTod mivida Tu ara misi mimar-Tva adresatamde, radgan dRemde pasuxiar miuRia.

2 noembers patimarma rusTavis #17sasjelaRsrulebis dawesebulebis uf-ross, laSa bregvaZes kidev erTxel mi-marTa werilobiT da sTxova, pasuxi gae-caT, ratom ar mieca ufleba, sakuTarZmis dakrZalvaze misuliyo. patimarma

verc am werilze miiRo registraciisnomeri.

adamianis uflebaTa centrSi acxa-deben, rom anzor mezvriSvili asakova-nia da gulis problemebi aqvs, aseve awu-xebs hipertonia. man moamzada Tavisi uf-lebebis darRvevebze vrceli werili,riTac amerikis saelCos mimarTavda.

rogorc patimarma nino andriaS-vils acnoba, socialurma muSakma mas ub-rZana, daexia aSS-s saelCosadmi momza-debuli werili. ramdenime dRis Semdegki administraciasTan daaxloebuli pa-timrebis piriT SeuTvales, SeewyvitasaCivrebis wera, Torem gaanadgurebdnen.

nino andriaSvilma werilobiT mi-marTa sasjelaRsrulebis saministrosda rusTavis #17 sasjelaRsrulebis da-wesebulebis ufros laSa bregvaZes an-zor mezvriSvilis uflebebis darRve-vebis Sesaxeb.

_ misi uflebebi irRveva yovel-dRe, masTan aRar SeaqvT gazeTebi. Cvenadministraciisgan moviTxovT, Sewyvitonpatimris devna, upasuxon mis werilebsda saSualeba miscen, isargeblos kano-niT dadgenili uflebebiT, _ ambobs ninoandriaSvili.

saqarTvelos moqmedi kanonmdeb-lobiT, braldebuls/msjavrdebuls uf-leba aqvs, SeuzRudavi raodenobiT gag-zavnos da miiRos werilebi am kodeqsiTdadgenili wesiT. braldebulis/msjav-rdebulis saxelze Semosuli werilebismisTvis Cabarebas, agreTve misi werile-bis adresatisTvis gagzavnas uzrunvel-yofs patimrobis/Tavisuflebis aRkveTisdawesebulebis administracia.

saqarTvelos kanonmdeblobiT dad-genili wesiT, patimari aseve uzrunvel-yofili unda iyos satelefono saubre-biT da mimoweriT. gansakuTrebul pi-rad garemoebebTan dakavSirebiT, sapa-timros administraciam msjavrdebulsSeiZleba ufleba misces, droebiT dato-vos Tavisuflebis aRkveTis dawesebu-leba, Tuki miRebulia sarwmuno cnobamisi axlo naTesavis gardacvalebis ansicocxlisaTvis saSiSi avadmyofobis Ta-obaze.

anzor mezvriSvili partia `samar-Tlianobis~ wevria da 2008 wlis agvis-tos movlenebis dros daakaves. ufleba-damcvelebis mier is politpatimrad arisaRiarebuli.

aRsaniSnavia, rom adamianis ufle-baTa centris iuridiuli jgufis xel-mZRvaneli nino andriaSvili kidev erTsaintereso informaciaze amaxvilebs yu-radRebas. is acxadebs, rom noembris da-sawyisidan mas patimrebi veRar ukavSir-debian. advokati varaudobs, rom SesaZ-loa, mis telefonze patimrebis zarebispecialurad iblokeba.

cota xnis win nino andriaSvilspatimrebis naTesavebi daukavSirdnen daacnobes, rom mas patimrebi urekaven, za-ri Cveulebrivad gadis, magram advoka-ti ar pasuxobs.

rogorc nino andriaSvili acxa-debs, am dros mis mobilur telefonzearc zaris xma ismis da arc Semomavalizarebia dafiqsirebuli.

amis Sesaxeb nino andriaSvilma sas-jelaRsrulebis departaments mimarTada Tavisi eWvebic gauziara. departa-mentSi advokats ganucxades, rom maTganzarebi SezRuduli ar iyo da msgavsiteqnikuri problemis Sesaxeb araferiicodnen. urCies, mis mobilur operator-Tan gadaemowmebina, maT xom ar hqondaTSeferxeba.

nino andriaSvilma es sakiTxi `je-oselSic~ gadaamowma. aq mas uTxres, romkompania aranairad ar aris dainterese-buli, Tavis klientebs zarebi daublo-kos.

patimrebi dRemde ver axerxeben ni-no andriaSvilTan dakavSirebas. rCebamxolod erTi gza _ advokatma nomerigamocvalos, magram sanam axal nomersyvela patimari gaigebs, SesaZlebeliaadvokatma reagireba daagvianos da pa-timrebs daxmareba droulad ver aRmou-Cinos.

arada, patimrobis kodeqsis mixed-viT, patimars aqvs satelefono saubrisda mimoweris ufleba. es aris erTader-Ti saSualeba, saWiroebis SemTxvevaSi,patimris advokatTan dasakavSireblad.

patimrebs ojaxis wevris

dakrZalvaze ar uSvebenrogor irRveva kanoni da ra problemebiT vxvdebiT adamianis

uflebaTa dacvis dRes

ra xdeba qarTul

partiaSinino metreveli

irakli oqruaSvili partiebs Slis da awyobs,Slis da awyobs. prezentaciebi da partiis saxeebi Tavi-dan marTlac STambeWdavia, magram Zalian swrafad Cnde-ba problemebi da bednieri saxeebiT gaerTianebuliadaminebi sazogadoebisTvis gaurkveveli mizezebiTiSlebian.

2007 wlis seqtemberSi Seqmnili moZraoba `er-Tiani saqarTvelosTvis~ male datoves Tavmjdomaredwodebulma gia TorTlaZem da generalurma mdivanmagia cagareiSvilma, damfuZneblebma koka guncaZem, da-viT koRuaSvilma, naTia lazaSvilma da nana leJavam.partiis generaluri mdivani eka beselia gaxda. oriwlisTavze isic daemSvidoba yofil Tavdacvis mi-nistrs. ufro saintereso ki is iyo, rom erTi wlis winsakuTari partia TviTon irakli oqruaSvilmac dato-va da axali politikuri Zala `qarTuli partia~ Seq-mna.

didi finansuri saxsrebiT da politikuri ambi-ciebiT Seqmnilma gansxvavebuli politikuri warsuli-sa da mimarTulebebis liderebma erTad didxans vergaZles. amayad dadebuli piroba, ambiciebi gadavdeTo,ver Seasrules da maisSi partia levan gaCeCilaZem,koka guncaZem da kaxa miqaiam datoves, sul axlaxan kiTavad partiis Tavmjdomare sozar subarma gaakeTagancxadeba partiis datovebaze.

mTel am bakqanaliaSi yvelaze saintereso isaa,rom partiadatovebulebi gamoqcevis namdvil mizezeb-ze ar saubroben. TorTlaZem da cagareiSvilma, ubra-lod, pirSi wyali Caigubes, odesme dadgeba amis lapa-rakis droo, eka beseliam _ raRac politikuri SeuTan-xmebloba iyo partiaSio, sozar subari ambobs, maincda-mainc saintereso ar aris, mizezi bevri iyoo. arc cudsamboben, arc kargs. ratom? cota gaurkvevelia. Tumca,moaruli xmebi ratomRac yvela SemTxvevaSi fuls ukav-Sirdeba da oqruaSvilic Tavisi royio gancxadebebiTaqeT mianiSnebs, rig SemTxvevebSi ki pirdapir adebsxels yofil Tanapartielebs.

eka beseliaze `oqros~ parizidan araferi Semo-uTvlia, Tumca, maSindeli moaruli xmebiT, beselias-Tan daxarjul fulze hqonda pretenzia oqruaSvils daam garCevebSi aqtiurad iyo CarTuli oqruaSvilis `da-qaloCka~ Teo tlaSaZe, romelic `erTiani saqarTvelo-dan~ iraklis `qarTul partiaSi~ gadahyva. gaCeCilaZe-guncaZis partiidan wasvlis mizezadac finansuri gar-Cevebi dasaxelda. oqruaSvilma parizidan moikiTxa,aba, biWebo, amdeni fuli sad wavidao da amas lidere-bis daSla mohyvao. yofilma Tavdacvis ministrma merepirdapir daado xeli levan gaCeCilaZes, saakaSvilis-gan aiRo fulio. axla, yofil saxalxo damcvelzecigive braldeba gaisma parizidan, sozari kote goge-lias jibeze Camoekidao. Tavad gogelia partiidanoqruaSvilma, ubralod, garicxa. sazogadoebisTvismizezebis axsniT arc am SemTxvevaSi Seuwuxebia vinmesTavi.

oqruaSvilis gverdiT yvelas gamdidrebis sur-vili uCndeba Tu `oqros~ daemarTa eWvianoba-akviate-bebi? faqtia, rom oqruaSvilTan didxans veravin Zlebs.Saqaryinuli arasodes iyo, magram, roca maRal Tanam-debobebze brZandeboda da lamis pirvel xmas mReroda,mis uxasiaTobas itandnen. sxva ra gza hqondaT, magram,Zalian xSirad gamodioda xmebi massa da saakaSvils damassa da merabiSvilis Soris seriozul, cema-tyepamdemisul garCevebze. es xasiaTi Tu uxasiaToba parizSicTan gahyva, iseve, rogorc royio gancxadeba-dapirebe-bi. Tu Tavdacvis ministrobis dros axali wlis cxin-valSi Sexvedras gvpirdeboda, mere iyo `mrisxanebisdReebi~ da orjer, kritikul dReebSi Camosvlis `gama-zuli~ pirobebi, ramac sabolood daangria misi stali-niseuli imiji.

sozar subars `qarTuli partiidan~ koordina-torebisa da partiis wevrebis mTeli jari gamohyva, aqsozaris gamo movediT da sadac is, iq Cveno. vin marTavsdRes partias, rTuli saTqmelia. erosi kiwmariSviliki aris oqruaSvilis kaprizebis usityvo Semsrulebe-li, magram, isea garTuli `maestrosTan~ dakavSirebu-li Tavisi finansuri garCevebiT, aRarc ki axsovs, par-tiis lideri rom aris. oqruaSvili parizSia. saxlSimxolod qalebi arian _ Teo tlaSaZe da sofio xorgua-ni, parizuli miTiTebebiT. liderebis partiidan gaq-cevis erT-erTi mizezi, savaraudod, esec iyo. iraklioqruaSvili pirvel xmas yovelTvis marto mReris dasxvebs, amyeviTo, avaldebulebs.

levan gaCeCilaZis gundis wasvlis Semdeg `qar-Tuli partia~ iuridiulad aRarc arsebobs, radganwasulebi damfuZnebelTa Soris arian. partias arsebo-bis gagrZelebisTvis xelaxali dafuZneba, yriloba daTavmjdomaris arCeva sWirdeba.

yriloba 18 dekembers marTlac tardeba, magram _sxva formatiT. irakli oqruaSvilma Tavisi ori parti-is `erTiani saqarTvelosTvis~ da `qarTuli partiis~gaerTianeba Caifiqra. gaerTianeba sakmaod solidu-rad JRers. realurad es aris karga xnis gasvenebuli`erTiani saqarTvelos~ da sikvdilis piras myofi `qar-Tuli partiis~ gaerTianeba. ra politikur Zalas mii-Rebs amiT yofili Tavdacvis ministri da qarTulipolitikuri vinigreti, male vnaxavT.

Zalian sainteresoa, vin gamoCndeba skandale-biT cnobil ganaxlebul politikur ZalaSi, vin ai-Rebs Tavze mis pirvelkacobas. `qarTul partiaSi~amboben, rom amaze jer kidev konsultaciebi midis,magram siurprizebs gvpirdebian. iq, sadac oqruaSvi-lia, dapirebis gareSec unda velodoT siurprizebsada skandalebs.

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15 dekembers lika yazbegi sazogadoe-bas ukve meoTxed warudgens proeqts `warma-tebuli qalebi podiumze~. tradicia arc am-jerad dairRveva da RonisZiebis organiza-tori erovnuli biblioTekis darbazSi Sek-rebil cnobismoyvareebs 20 warmatebul qal-batons warudgens. maTgan 10 yvelasTvis kar-gad cnobili sxvadasxva sferoSi moRvawe qal-batoni iqneba, 10 _ ki sruliad ucnobi, magram,rogorc Tavad lika ambobs, saocrad lamazida momxibvleli qalbatoni.

ra siaxleebs unda velodoT lika yaz-begis tradiciad qceuli proeqtisgan, gamo-iyvans Tu ara warmatebul mamakacebs podium-ze da rodis vixilavT ybadaRebul Sokdefi-les, am Temebze lika yazbegi `axal Taobas~esaubra.

lika yazbegi:_ 15 dekembers vatareb rigiT meoTxe

proeqts `warmatebuli qali podiumze~. esaris Cemi Svilobili da yvelaze sayvareliproeqti, romelSic vdeb mTel Cems guls, suls,gamocdilebas, energiasa da profesionalizms.vfiqrob, aranakleb warmatebuli iqneba amisSemdgomi proeqti, romelzec mzadebas dekem-bridan, am Cvenebis dasrulebisTanave viwyeb.morigi Cveneba marketingebisa da piaris war-momadgenelTa podiumze gamoyvanas gulis-xmobs. am Cvenebaze gaviyvan sxvadasxva kompani-is piarmenejerebsa da marketingebs. es iqnebaZalian saqmiani Cveneba, amitom minda, bankisSenobaSi, kerZod, Tibisi bankis galereaSimovawyo.

_ kidev ras gegmavT?_ isev saqorwino kabebis Cvenebas, mere

isev warmatebul qalebs podiumze. ideebi amo-uwuravi maqvs da fantaziac arasodes mRala-tobs.

_ wels sad gamoiyvanT warmatebul qal-batonebs?

_ Cven gvinda, yoveli Cveneba gansxvave-buli iyos. wels avirCie sajaro biblioTekisSenoba, ulamazesi Senobaa, romelic mefisdarbazs hgavs da, vfiqrob, Cems qalbatonebszustad Seesabameba. Cven vmogzaurobT sxva-dasxva darbazSi, rom Cveneba saintereso iyos.

_ am CvenebisTvis ramdeni qalbatoni ipo-veT?

_ maTi povna arasodes mWirdeba. sakma-risia, erTi siuJeti gavides televiziiT anerTi sityva daibeWdos presaSi, rom ukve mi-rekavs uamravi qalbatoni da mTavazobs saku-Tar Tavs. magram mirCevnia, TviTon SevarCioes qalbatonebi, vidre maT airCion sakuTariTavi am CvenebisTvis. wels myavs 20 qalbatoni.

_ riT arian isini gamorCeuli?_ sruldeba Cemi didi xnis ocneba. fo-

tografTa klub `graf. jis~ meSveobiT mTelijari emsaxureba Cems proeqts. isini uzrun-velyofen Cemi proeqtis fotosesias. Cemi erT-erTi mTavari partnioria misi damfuZnebelivano ficxelauri. gvinda gavakeToT am qalba-tonebis fotogamofena. Cven yoveldRe gvaqvsfotosesiebi, vmuSaobT daaxloebiT 2 TvisganmavlobaSi. iseTi sainteresoa fotosesie-bi, sul damaviwya podiumi. fotografebi ga-migiJdnen, isini aRar arian Tineijerebis ga-damRebi da maTTan momuSaveni. `graf. jis~mier damzadebuli fotoebi gamoifineba po-diumis paralelurad. momsvlel stumars or-magi sanaxaoba elis _ fotogamofena da ro-gor moZraoben warmatebuli qalbatonebi po-diumze. isini arian sruliad sxvadasxva pro-fesiis adamianebi da maT warvadgen sazoga-doebis winaSe sruliad sxva WrilSi. es maT-Tvisac da CemTvisac aris erTgvari eqsperi-menti. zogierTi maTgani CemsaviT avantiuris-tia, rac muSaobas kidev ufro gviadvilebs.maTTvis es erTgvari gamowvevaa. welsac, ro-gorc SarSan da yovelTvis, am qalbatonebisnaxevari iqneba cnobadi saxe, naxevari _ ucno-bi. ar davmalav da vityvi simarTles, rom isucnobi qalbatonebi CemTvis ufro mniSvnelo-vania. minda, isini swored Cemi proeqtiT gav-xado cnobadebi. Zalian vamayob Cemi erTdRi-ani modelebiT. ar aris gamoricxuli, rommaT, wina warmatebuli qalbatonebis msgav-sad, momTxovon podiumze gamosvla meored,mesamed, meoTxed, radgan podiumsac aranak-lebi mtveri aqvs, vidre Teatris scenas, rome-lic, Tu Caylape, mere Tavs advilad veRardaanebeb. es ar aris erTdRiani proeqti, esgrZeldeba mTeli weli sasiamovno Sexvedre-biT, azrTa gacvliT, adrenaliniT, megobro-biT, saintereso adamianebis gacnobiT, axaliSTabeWdilebebiT. vici, ratom uyvarT am qal-batonebs es proeqti da ratom ver elevian.

_ ratom?_ Zalian didi siamovnebiT modian da

emzadebian, rom movidnen, daeswron da ixilonwina proeqtSi monawileebma morigi warmate-buli qalbatonebis oceuli. sul mekiTxebian,vin gamyavs, rogorebi arian. didi interesiaqvT, romlis ukanac Zalian sayvareli bavSvu-ri cnobismoyvareoba dgas _ Cven vjobdiT Tuisini gvjobiano.

_ vin Caacmevs Tqvens warmatebul qalba-tonebs?

_ specialurad maTTvis Cemma usayvar-lesma dizainerma nino gogiberiZem Seqmna 20

ulamazesi yabalaxi. Zalian miyvars qarTulitanisamosi, mec maT rigSi var, vinc populari-zacias uwevs qarTul samoss. salome amana-TaSvili Cems qalbatonebs fexsacmelsa da Can-Tebs moargebs, xolo Tako ruxaZe maT aqsesu-arebsa da vizaJze izrunebs. Tako proeqtisstilisti, vizaJisti da partnioria, rome-lic saCuqrad gadascems am qalbatonebs TavisgakeTebul sayureebs.

_ Tqven ar ikeravT kabas?_ me vikerav qarTul Tavadur kabas.

nino gogiberiZe mikeTebs yabalaxs. aseTi si-lamazis yabalaxi aravis eqneba _ zed Cemilogo eqneba amotvifruli.

_ Cvenebas sapatio stumrebi eyoleba?_ stumrebs Soris iqneba cnobili ameri-

keli prodiuseri ian romanovski. man ukvedagegma, rom 15-Si saRamos iqneba Cveni stuma-ri. sxva ucxoeli stumrebic mravlad gveyo-lebian, amitom gadavwyvite, rom wels pirve-lad saRamo ucxo enazec warimarTos. winawlebSi bevri ucxoeli stumari gvyavda, mag-ram maT, samwuxarod, ar esmodaT, raze iyosaubari. yovelTvis dadis Cems Cvenebebze qal-batoni giuli alasania, vici, rom mgulSemat-kivrobs, amitom welsac gavugzavniT mosaw-vevs, rom movides da Cveni podiumi Seafasos.

_ vin waiyvans Tqvens saRamos?_ TaTia paWkoriaa wamyvani. is Cemi wina

proeqtebis warmatebuli qalbatonia, amitomaxla is wamyvani iqneba, marika Cangiani ki uc-xoelebTan kontaqtSi dagvexmareba. welsac,tradiciulad, rogorc 17 wlis ganmavloba-Si, Cvens saRamos gaxsnian samodelo saagen-tos patara modelebi. yvelaze patara mode-li 2 wlis Tornike odiSariaa, romelic qar-Tul tanisamosSi _ CoxaSi iqneba gamowyobi-li.

_ lika, ratom daaweseT am proeqtSiasakobrivi zRvari?

_ asakobrivi zRvari CvenTan dawesebu-lia da Tanac mkacrad _ 30 wlis qvemoT qalba-tonebi CvenTan ar daiSvebian.

_ zeda zRvari sad mTavrdeba?_ zeda zRvari ar arsebobs. Zalian bed-

nieri viqnebi, Tuki Cems proeqtSi miiRebs mo-nawileobas qalbatoni saintereso biografi-iT, istoriiT, romelic iqneba Tundac 80 wlis,oRond, iqneba iseT formaSi, rom moxiblavsmayurebels. xom arian aseTi qalebi? mjera,rom maTac aucileblad vipovi.

_ kidev rogori qalbatoni ar daiSvebaTqvenTan?

_ ar daiSveba qalbatoni, romelic araris movlili da, samwuxarod, romelic araris momxibvleli. me maqvs Cveneba, defile,amitom es moTxovnebi umTavresia. Cemi proeq-tis garda, aris ramdenime ceremonia, sadacajildoeben warmatebul adamianebs, biznes-menebs. iq aranairi prioriteti ar eniWebavizuals. me ki, radgan podiumis saxiT vTava-zob am qalbatonebs sazogadoebas, valdebu-li var, rom saukeTeso qalebi gamoviyvano amsityvis yvelanairi gagebiT. es proeqti maTpasuxismgeblobas aniWebs, rom warmatebuliqalbatoni ar unda modundes, warmateba arunda dakargos da meti gaqaneba miscen Tavi-anT saqmes. es wina monawileebmac miTxres. romdavfiqrdi, aRmovaCine, Turme Cems proeqtsamdeni ram SesZlebia. me ki yvelaferi ufroadvilad megona _ erT dRes gadavawyvite,eqsperimenti Cametarebina, erTi dRiT podi-umze Taoba Semecvala da podiumze mdgomibavSvebis magivrad gamomeyvana qalebi isto-riiT. namdvilad ar megona, Tu amdeni mondo-meba da motivacia eqnebodaT qalebs. pirve-lad am motivacias vusmendi yurmokvriT daSemTxveviT, axla ukve TviTon vekiTxebi damainteresebs, ratom gamodis Cems podiumze.pasuxebi yovelTvis sainteresoa. bevrs am pro-eqtiT unda cxovrebis Secvla garkveul etap-ze da am podiumis tramplinad gamoyeneba. maTainteresebT sakuTari Tavi sxva ampluaSi.TviTonac aseTi var _ minda, bevri ram Sevis-wavlo, gavakeTo, amiT cxovrebas vimraval-ferovnebT mec da Cemi qalbatonebic. momavalwarmatebul proeqtze albaT gavyidiT bile-Tebs da gadavricxavT romelime bavSvTa sax-lSi. minda, es qalbatonebi qvelmoqmedebaSiCaerTon.

_ ukve ramdeni qalbatoni gaiyvaneT po-diumze?

_ ukve 60 qalbatoni gaviyvane podium-ze. minda, roca maTi ricxvi 100-ze ava, amov-kribo saukeTesoebi da mSvenieri TaiguliSeiqmneba. am proeqtis gakeTeba daviwye zaf-xulSi, magram bolo ori Cveneba momiwia zam-TarSi. minda, isev siTbos davubrundeT da2012 wlis qalbatonebi gazafxulze warvad-gino _ konkretulad 8 marts minda davam-Txvio.

_ cnobilebidan vis vixilavT wels po-diumze?

_ nino Tolordavas, Cveni sainformaci-os wamyvans, Tea darCias, suxiSvilebis mocek-

vaves, maka miqelaZes, mwerals, nana lorTqi-faniZes, msaxiobs, salome gogiaSvils, tele-wamyvans, nuka kacitaZes, xaTuna gagniZes, te-lewamyvans, marina saRaraZes, msaxiobs da maT-Tan erTad 10 ucnob qalbatons, romlebsac 15-Si gaicnobs sazogadoeba. rogorc yovelTvis,SezRuduli maqvs mosawvevebi, radgan intere-si didia da yvelas dakmayofileba ar SemiZ-lia. mosawvevi mxolod 500 adamianisTvisgvaqvs gansazRvruli.

_ warmatebuli mamakacebi ratom ar ga-mogyavT podiumze?

_ sul vambob, momiZebneT 10 warmatebu-li mamakaci da gavakeTeb-meTqi. am xumroba-xumrobaSi momigrovda 8 adamiani, damrCa ori.momaval wels, warmatebuli qalebis parale-lurad, aucileblad Cavatareb warmatebulimamakacebis podiumsac. vgrZnob, rom amis droaxlovdeba.

_ Tqven ratom rCebiT yovelTvis podi-ums miRma? ar xarT warmatebuli?

_ pirvelad vambob _ me maqvs scenis SiSi.wels yazbegobis dResaswaulze miwveuli vi-yavi Cemi modelebiT da gavakeTeT Cveneba.irakli maisuraZe iyo wamyvani da ZalismierimeTodebiT gamiyvana podiumze.

_ podiumze arasodes gamosulxarT?_ sul orjer var gamosuli _ zaliko

bergerisa da lali moroSkinas Cvenebebze. iqkulisebSi gogoebma alkoholuri sasmeli mi-viReT. aman Zalian gviSvela, rom Tamamad ga-movsuliyaviT. piradad SemiZlia, aranorma-lurad mokle droSi movxsna adamians yvela-nairi SiSi, daZabuloba, kompleqsi, vaswavlosiaruli da gavistumro podiumze, magram sa-kuTar Tavs verafers vuxerxeb. imedi maqvs,rom dadgeba dro da lika yazbegic gamovapodiumze.

_ podiumze gamosvlis win alkoholismiReba TqvenTvis misaRebia?

_ ratomac ara, oRond _ zomierad. pir-velad zaliko bergeris Cvenebaze miviReTalkoholi da, roca lali moroSkinas bewveu-li vaCveneT, movuwode gogonebs, dagveliasasmeli. iseTi viyavi, podiumidan ar mindodagamosvla, magram amoiwura lalis bewveulida kulisebSi davbrundi. wina wels vuTxarigogonebs, Tuki vinmes gWirdebaT, dalieT er-Ti Wiqa-meTqi, magram, iyvnen gogoebi, romle-bic erT Wiqas ar dasjerdnen da, roca SevedikulisebSi, ori koniakis boTli iyo carieli,Tan maSin eskalatoriT Camodiodnen gogone-bi grZeli saRamos kabebiT. dRemde RmerTsmadlobas veubnebi, rom yvelaferma mSvido-bianad da kargad Caiara. ise gamovidnen podi-umze, gadavrCiT, rom kabebi ar CahyvaT eska-latorSi. meore dRes am gamosvlis mSvidobi-anad dasrulebas aRvniSnavdiT.

_ warmatebul qalbatonebTan urTier-Toba merec gaqvT?

_ ra Tqma unda, Cveni megobroba grZel-deba. aravin damegobrebula ise, rogorc me-same Taobis warmatebuli qalbatonebi. mize-zi ar sWirdebaT, rom Seikribnon. laparakia10 qalze. imdenad damegobrdnen, rom erTmane-Tis gareSe ver Zleben. kompozitor nana mesxs

axlad gacnobilma gogonebma gaukeTes araC-veulebrivi saRamo. erTmaneTs vexmarebiT,biZgs vaZlevT da Zalian sasiamovno gagrZele-bebi aqvs am proeqts. pirvel rigSi stimuliamTavari. es proeqti CemTvis da Cemi megobre-bisTvis gavakeTe, Tumca, farTo masStabi mii-Ro da, didi imedi maqvs, rom kidev ufrogafarTovdeba.

_ uars amboben Tqvens proeqtSi monawi-leobaze?

_ ra Tqma unda. bevri mizezi aqvT. imde-nad saqmiani qalebi gamomyavs podiumze, vericlian. barbare dvaliSvili uzomod miyvars,magram daemTxva speqtaklebi da wels am pro-eqtSi ver Cavsvi. imedi maqvs, momaval welsgamoviyvan. aris SemTxveva, roca qalaqSi ararian, aris SemTxveva, roca zedmeti wonisgamo aqvT kompleqsi da dominirebs qarTuliazri, ras ityvis sxva, rom gamovide podiumze,roca var 5 kiloTi meti. Tumca, uars xSiradar meubnebian.

_ ia suxitaSvils ausruleT Tqvens po-diumze gamosvlis ocneba?

_ ki, SarSan ia saqorwilo kabebis Cvene-baze iyo wamyvani da bolos TeTri kabiT gai-ara podiumze. bevr qals vusruleb ocnebasda amiT bednieri var. sxvaTa Soris, gaTxovi-lan kidec is gogonebi, romlebmac saqorwi-lo kabebis CvenebaSi miiRes monawileoba. sul6 gogonaa aseTi, zogi gaTxovda, zogi _ dai-niSna.

_ vis gamoyvanaze ocnebobT podiumze?_ Zalian minda, gamoviyvano podiumze

eka CxeiZe da misi ulamazesi gogona. morigisaqorwilo kabebis Cveneba minda gavakeTo siR-naRSi. aq asakobrivi zRvari piriqiT gvaqvs _maqsimaluri asaki iqneba 35 weli. TeTri kabapodiumze ufro axalgazrda, 20-25 wlis qal-batonebs uxdebaT.

_ bevrs unda saqorwilo kabis morgeba?_ ki. fiqtiuri patarZlebis mTeli ja-

ri midgas rigSi. vinc wina wlebSi ver gamoviy-vane, Semdgom wlebSi gamoviyvan. bevri qalimTxovs podiumze gayvanas, maT ki imiT vamSvi-deb da vaSoSmineb, yvela rom erT wels gagiy-vanoT, mere aravin aRar damrCeba-meTqi. ram-denime qali, vinc seriozulad movwamle po-diumiT, marketingebisa da piarebis CvenebaSiCavsvi, zogi gadavanawile sapatarZlo kabeb-Si. ver vityvi, rom TiTo qals orjer dasamjer gamoviyvan podiumze, es lamazi namdvi-lad ar aris, roca uamravi ulamazesi qalba-tonia saqarTveloSi. am araordinaruli Cve-nebebis erT-erTi mTavari mizezi is iyo, romxalxs mobezrda erTi da imave modelebis nax-va podiumze. imaves gameorebas ar vapirebnamdvilad. pirveladi profesiiT Jurnalis-ti var da minda, gadacema gavakeTo radioSian televiziaSi, warvadgino is adamianebi,romlebic popularuli ar arian, magram nam-dvilad saintereso arian. bevri megobarimyavs Jurnalisti da, roca maTTvis es pirov-nebebi SemiTavazebia, uTqvamT, Cems prodiu-sers popularuli adamiani sWirdebao. ara-da, zogierTi iseTia, jibeSi Caisvams zogi-erT `varskvlavs~. odesRac xom unda gaxdnenesenic cnobili? rogorme es kedeli xom undagaarRvion? Cemi uaxloesi megobari nika wu-lukiZe ambobs, Zalian advilia, popularuligavxde, gavixdi, quCaSi gamoval da ukve popu-laruli viqnebio. minda, Jurnalistebs gTxo-voT, miaqcioT im ulamazes ucnob qalbato-nebs yuradReba, romlebic marTla saocrebe-bi arian da Cems podiumze gamovlen. aseTilamazi modelebi TviT feSen vikebze ar gah-yavT, arc erT saagentos ar hyavs aseTi lamaziqalbatonebi, maT Soris, arc me. nuki ediberi-Ze, irine mirianaSvili, elene kaWarava, qeTiniJaraZe, nana kiknaZe, marika Cangiani ulamaze-sebi arian.

_ lika, Tqveni Sokdefile ratom agvia-nebs?

_ es ybadaRebuli Temaa da mec ki davi-Rale am Sokdefiles lodinSi.

_ ra giSliT mis CatarebaSi xels?_ Tundac SekveTebi, Tumca minda, rom

SekveTebi xels miSlides. Cemi mniSvnelovanida ukve cnobili proeqtebis garda, vakeTebprezentaciebs, Cvenebebs, romelic CemTvis mom-gebiania, am winadadebebze uars ver vambob.radgan vici, rom Sokdefiles Cem garda vera-vin gaakeTebs da am ideas veravin moiparavs,mSvidad var. Sokdefiles erT-erTi mTavariniSani is aris, rom masobrivad bevri adamianigamova, magram erTxel da Sokismomgvrelad.am proeqtSi minimum 100 adamiani unda iyosCarTuli.

_ ukve gyavT es 100 adamiani?_ ki. bevri adamiani aRmovaCine, vipove,

gavicani. raodenoba namdvilad mWirdeba Sok-defilesTvis.

_ xom ar gaifantebian?_ ara, Cven varT kontaqtze da melode-

bian moTminebiT._ mainc riT iqneba es defile Sokismom-

gvreli?_ yvelafriT _ sigrZiT, simaRliT, siga-

niT, kostiumiT, garegnobiT, araordinaru-li gamosvliT. es iqneba Sokismomgrveli de-file yvela mimarTulebiT. Cemi proeqtebiamouwuravia. sul imas vambob, erTi lika aRarhyofnis Cems saqmeebs, bevri lika minda, TiTo-euls TiTo proeqts mivamagrebdi da davisve-nebdi-meTqi.

lika yazbegi: `minda

saqorwino kabebis Cveneba

siRnaRSi movawyo~

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saqarTvelos nakrebismwvrTnel Temur qecbaias rusi Jur-nalistebi gaesaubrnen. maTi miza-ni iyo, axlos gaecnoT CempionTaligis mTavari aRmoCena, kvipro-suli `apoeli~. da ra SuaSia aqqecbaia? pirvelad kviprosulklubs warmateba swored Cvenebur-ma moutana, rodesac `anorTosi-si~ CempionTa ligis jgufur etap-ze moaxvedra da axlos iyo plei-ofSi gasvlasTan. saerTod, qec-baia kargad icnobs kviprosul fex-burTs da rusi Jurnalistebis da-interesebac aqedan wamovida.

_ 3 wlis win CempionTa li-gis jgufur etapze pirveli kvip-rosuli klubi moxvda _ Tqven miergawvrTnili `anorTosisi~. axlaki `apoeli~ plei ofSi gavida. saq-me kviprosuli saklubo fexbur-Tis fenomenTan gvaqvs?

_ mas Semdeg, rac kviprosievrokavSirSi Sevida, adgilob-rivma klubebma ucxouri fexbur-Telebis moyvana Tamamad daiwyes.rodesac kviprosze saTamaSod meCavedi, maSin aseTi pirobebi ararsebobda. axla aq 5-6 klubi ma-Ral profesiul doneze muSaobs.Tundac sami wlis win ki ase arxdeboda. Tumca, im dros ufroZneli iyo ligis jfufur etapzemoxvedra. miSel platinis refor-mebis Semdeg ki SedarebiT gaiol-da. didi roli iTamaSa kvipro-sul klubebSi kargi ucxoeli fex-burTelebisa da Zlieri mwvrTne-lebis Camosvlam.

_ mainc riT gamoixateba klu-bebis profesionalurad muSaoba?

_ kargi seleqcia, mwvrTne-lebis kvalifikacia, mindvrebisada bazebis gaumjobeseba _ yvelaam faqtorma qveyanaSi fexburTiganaviTara. bolo periodSi gamo-ikveTa tendencia: fexburTelebi,romlebic evropis Zlier qveyneb-Si TamaSoben, karieris miwurulsiseT qveynebSi Cadian, rogorickviprosia. `apoeli~ ukve meoredmonawileobda jgufur etapze, 3wlis win ki `anorTosisma~ gamoi-Cina Tavi. amasTan, kviprosuli gun-debi kargad gamoiyurebian evro-pis ligis jgufur etapzec. maga-liTad, larnakis aek-s jgufidangasvla SeuZlia.

_ `apoelze~ ufro vrcladmogviyeviT.

_ mSvenivrad dakompleqte-buli klubia, romelsac TiTqmis 4welia, erTi mwvrTneli hyavs. ig-rZnoba saqmisadmi profesionalu-ri damokidebuleba. zogi ambobs,`apoelis~ warmateba SemTxveviTimovlenaao, Tumca, SemTxvevebi xde-ba erT-or matCSi. `apoelma~ ki

jgufuri etapi moilia da merved-finalis sagzuri gainaRda, Tanac,jgufSi hyavda portugaliis, ru-seTisa da ukrainis Cempionebi. esmxolod iRbali ki ara, klubismwvrTnelebisa da fexburTelebis

kargad muSaobis Sedegia. `apoe-lis~ mervedfinalSi gasvla mTli-anad kviprosuli fexburTisTvisdidi warmatebaa.

_ rogorc TqviT, kviprosulklubebs Zlieri ucxoeli mwvrTne-lebis Camoyvana didad waadgaT.Tumca, yvela warmatebulimwvrTneli legioneria. xom asea?

_ diax. yvela kviprosuliklubi ucxoeli mwvrTnelis xel-Si aRwevs warmatebas. Tumca, ari-an adgilobrivi specialistebic,romlebsac kargi perspeqtivaaqvT.

_ gindaT TqvaT, rom uaxlo-es droSi romelime kviproselimwvrTnelic gamoiCens Tavs?

_ savsebiT SesaZlebelia.kviprosis Cempionatis done sakma-od maRalia da, Tu aseTive tempiTgaagrZelebs progress, kviprosi,albaT, gadaaswrebs Sveicarias daor gunds gaiyvans CempionTa liga-Si. qveyanaSi Seqmnili finansurikrizisis miuxedavad, kviprosmabolo xuTi wlis ganmavlobaSi sak-lubo doneze seriozul progressmiaRwia. es mTlianad qveynisTvi-saa winsvla da, vfiqrob, procesigagrZeldeba.

_ kviprosis nakrebis prog-ressac velodoT?

_ es ukve sxva sakiTxia dameeWveba, radgan warmatebul kvip-rosul gundebSi legionerebi War-boben. rodesac gundebSi metwi-

lad kviproselebi TamaSobdnen,aseTi Sedegic ar Canda. axla kvip-rosel legioners evropaSi TiT-qmis ver naxavT, TiTqmis yvelanisamSobloSi arian. amasTan, Tavi-anTi gundis ZiriTad Semadgenlo-

baSi garantirebuli adgili araqvT. es ki nakrebisTvisaa cudi.vfiqrob, 2-3 weliwadSi kvipro-sis nakrebisTvis kidev ufro dam-Zimdeba situacia. Tu iqaur fex-burTis federacias erovnuli gun-dis progresi surs, raRac undaSecvalos. am etapze ki kviproszesaklubo fexburTi seriozuladCrdilavs nakrebs.

_ xalxi rogor aRiqvams`apoelis~ warmatebas?

_ nebismier warmatebas di-di sixaruliT xvdebian. `anorTo-sisisa~ da `apoelis~ garda, kvip-rosze sxva Zlieri gundebic ari-an. magaliTad, `omonia~ da `aeli~,romlebic Cempionats lideroben.is, rom `apoeli~ amJamad Cempio-natSi mesame adgilzea, kidev er-Txel amtkicebs iqauri Cempiona-tis siZlieres. ra Tqma unda, yve-la gunds Tavisi gulSematkivare-bi hyavs, Tumca maT konkurentisevropuli warmatebac uxariaT.`apoelisa~ da `aelis~ matCebs sxvagundis qomagebic eswrebian, es kifexburTelebisTvis didi stimu-lia. roca 800.000-mde mcxovrebiada stadionze 25.000 kaci modis,ukve bevrs niSnavs.

_ da mainc, konkretulad risxarjze aRwevs `apoeli~ aseT war-matebas evropaSi?

_ ra Tqma unda, aseT serio-zul turnirze gamarTlebis ga-reSe warmatebas ver miaRwev, mag-

ram, ukve vTqvi, rom saqme mxolodiRbalSi araa. sxva gundebisgan gan-sxvavebiT, `apoeli~ fexburTel-Ta birTvs inarCunebs da gundicSeTamaSebulia. TiTqmis oTxi we-lia, rac erTi da imave Semadgen-lobiT TamaSobs. iSviaTad erTi-ori gadanacvleba Tu moxda. erTdros `anorTosisic~ ase TamaSob-da, hyavda birTvi. Tumca, bolosam weliwadSi am gundSi 10mwvrTneli da 40 Tu 50 fexburTe-li gamoicvala.

_ axlandeli `apoeli~ Tqve-ni gawvrTnili `anorTosisisgan~riT gansxvavdeba?

_ orivem icoda, rogor un-da eTamaSa, raTa warmatebisTvismieRwia. ver vityvi, rom `apoeli~da `anorTosisic~ mkveTrad Sem-tevi gundebi arian, Tumca, maT da-yenebuli TamaSi aqvT. sami wliswinandeli `anorTosisisa~ da ax-landeli `apoelis~ Sedareba Zne-lia, radgan metoqeebic gansxvave-buli hyavdaT da pirobebic ara-Tanabaria. SesaZloa, Zlierma ev-ropulma klubebma raRac momen-tSi ver daafases kviprosuli gun-debi. Tumca, es namdvilad araagadamwyveti faqtori. `apoeli~gavida im jgufidan, sadac boloadgilze darCa `Saxtari~ _ 150-milioniani biujetis mqone klubi.yvela kviprosuli klubis biuje-ti erTad rom SevkriboT, `Saxta-risas~ mainc ver gautoldeba. mok-led, ukve vTqvi, warmatebis mTa-vari mizezi mizandasaxuli da pro-fesionaluri muSaobaa.

_ ra perspeqtiva aqvs `apo-els~ ligis mervedfinalSi?

_ rTuli kiTxvaa. yvelafe-ri damokidebulia kenWisyraze.erTs vityvi, rom `apoelis~ wina-aRmdeg TamaSi yvelas gauWirde-ba. Tavidan ambobdnen, rom `apoe-li~ jgufSi boloze gavidoda, me-re ambobdnen, iqneb, evropis liga-ze moxvdneno, axla ki gundi jgu-fidan gasulia. sulac ar gamik-virdeba, rom maT kidev erTi siur-prizi SemogvTavazon.

_ uaxloes wlebSi kidev un-da velodoT kviprosidan `axalianorTosisisa~ da `axali apoelis~gamoCenas?

_ axla jgufSi Sesvla Seda-rebiT gaiolda. adre SeiZlebo-da, bolo sakvalifikacio etapzeitaliis, inglisis, espaneTisa dagermaniis gundi Segxvedroda.kviprosze oTxi gundia, romle-bic CempionobisTvis ibrZvian. Tulideri klubebi ekonomikur sta-bilurobas SeinarCuneben, uaxlo-es wlebSic unda velodoT kargSedegebs.

Temur qecbaia: `kviprosuli saklubo

fexburTi sanakrebos sjobia~

germaniis bundesligaSi levan kobiaSvi-lis `herta~ mis yofil gunds, gelzerkirxenis`Salkes~ Sexvdeba. fexburTis gulSematkivrebskargad emaxsovrebaT, rom `kobim~ `SalkeSi~eqvs-naxevari sezoni iTamaSa.

amJamindeli da yofili gundebis matCiswin berlinuri klubis veb-gverdze qarTvelifexburTelis interviu gamoqveynda.

_ kmayofili xarT mimdinare sezonSi gun-dis mier naCvenebi TamaSiT da SedegiT?

_ bolomde kmayofili verasdros iqnebi.Cven yovelTvis maqsimumis miRweva gvsurs. se-zonis dasawyisTan SedarebiT, saturnirocxrilSi qulebi mogvemata da viTarebac das-tabilurda, magram yovelTvis meti gvsurs. amisgakeTeba ki yoveli matCisas gvinda. aqamde gan-sakuTrebuli araferi gagvikeTebia.

_ sakuTari TamaSiT kmayofili xarT? se-zonis win bevri ambobda, rom Tqven ukve asako-vani da arcTu swrafi xarT pirveli bundesli-gisTvis, Tumca, yovel TamaSSi aCvenebT, romaraviTari problema ar gaqvT.

_ sezonis dawyebamde msgavsi ram araer-Txel movismine. pirvel bundesligaSi didi xa-nia vTamaSob da kargad vici, forma rogorunda SevinarCuno. Cemi asakidan gamomdinare,mosamzadebeli procesi advili ar yofila,radgan didi datvirTvebi gvqonda, magram maq-simumi gaviRe. es araCveulebriv xasiaTze maye-nebs. TiToeuli dRe, rodesac varjiSi an Tama-

Si gvaqvs, Zalian momwons._ kaizerslauternSi gundi moedanze ka-

pitnis samklavuriT gaiyvaneT. am dros rasgrZnobdiT?

_ `hertaSi~ yofnis periodSi gunds pirve-lad vukapitne. Tumca, Cems adrindel klubebSida erovnul nakrebSi kapitani xSirad vyofil-var. amis miuxedavad, Tavs bednierad vgrZnob-di, miT umetes, rom kaizerslauternSi qulacaviReT. yovelTvis vambob _ TiToeulma fexbur-Telma sakuTari TamaSiT unda daamtkicos, romkapitnis samklavuris tarebis Rirsia.

_ `leverkuzenis~ winaaRmdeg Sexvedra-Si penalti gaafuWeT. im momentSi Tqvens gulSira xdeboda?

_ arasasiamovno grZnoba dameufla. sam-wuxarod, marTlac arcTu kargad davartyi.fexburTSi msgavi ram xdeba. Tumca, wamis Sem-deg amaze ukve aRar vfiqrobdi da matCis bo-lomde koncentrirebuli viyavi.

_ `Salkes~ karSi penalti rom dainiSnos,kvlav mixvalT mis dasartymelad?

_ kargi kiTxvaa. ver getyviT. es Cem miergacudebuli pirveli penalti ar yofila. yo-veli aseTi SemTxvevis mere rom meTqva, penaltsaRar davartyam-meTqi, maSin ukve didi xania,dartymulic ar unda mqondes. Tu TamaSis drosvinme ambobs, rom penaltis Sesruleba surs, masvendobi da SeuZlia daartyas. yovelTvis me xomar davartyam.

_ yofil klubTan Sexvedras rogori gan-wyobiT xvdebiT?

_ bunebrivia, es matCi gacilebiT sxvadatvirTvas atarebs, vidre bundesligaSi Ca-satarebeli erT-erTi rigiTi Sexvedra. am klub-Si saucxoo periodi gavatare da iq jer kidevdamrCnen megobar-nacnobebi. matCs mouTmenladveli. Tumca, moedanze mxolod sakuTar TamaS-ze ki ar viqnebi koncentrirebuli, aramed, `her-tasTvis~ da gamarjvebisTvis maqsimums gavake-Teb. yofili klubebis winaaRmdeg yovelTvisase vTamaSobdi.

_ `SalkesTan~ TamaSisgan ras eliT?_ `Salkes~ damarcxebis kargi Sansi gvaqvs.

metoqes Zalian kargi dacvis xazi aqvs, magramCven vaCveneT, rom Zlieri gundebisTvis gole-bis gatana SegviZlia. `Salkes~ winaaRmdeg ag-resiulad da gamarTuli taqtikiT unda viTa-maSoT. aseT SemTxvevaSi metoqis damarcxebiskargi SesaZlebloba gveqneba. Cven yovelTvisgvinda, maqsimums mivaRwi-oT. ase iqneba paraskevs danebismier sxva SexvedraSi.TamaSis mogeba da Cvenimdgomareobis gaumjobese-ba gvinda. Cveni klubisTvisda gulSematkivrebisTvisZalian mniSvnelovani mat-Cia. mis mosagebad yvelafersgaviRebT.

levan kobiaSvili: `fexburTelma unda

daamtkicos, rom kapitnobis Rirsia~

lionel mesi:

`CemTvis mTavari

saklubo

warmatebaa~`el klasiko~ _ amiT yvelaferia

naTqvami. dRes mTeli msoflio am matCismolodinSia. `klasikoze~ saubrobs ka-taloniuri grandis lideri leo mesic,romlis interviu fifas vebgverdze ga-moqveynda.

_ male msoflios saklubo Cempio-nati daiwyeba. ras niSnavs es turniriTqvenTvis?

_ msoflios saklubo Cempionatismogeba uaRresad mniSvnelovania. bolosaklubo mundialidan kargi mogonebebidagvrCa. imedia, welsac gavimarjvebT.

_ zogierTma Tqvenma Tanagundelmaganacxada, rom `barselona~ valdebulia,msoflios saklubo Cempionati moigos.eTanxmebiT maT?

_ Cven yovelTvis gamarjveba gvmar-Tebs. am turnirs did mniSvnelobas vani-Web. Tavs modunebis ufleba ar unda miv-ceT, radgan finalSi yovelTvis favori-tebi ver gadian. magaliTad, 2010 wels`interi~ finalSi gavida, `internasiona-li~ ki naxevarfinalidan gamoeTiSa tur-nirs.

_ sanam iaponiaSi CaxvalT, ramdeni-mesaaTiani frena mogiwevT. es faqtorigundis TamaSze xom ar aisaxeba?

_ iaponiasTan SesaCvevad dro sak-marisad gveqneba. iq matCamde ramdenimedRiT adre CavalT. ise, xangrZliv ga-dafrenebs ukve miCveuli var, radgan ar-gentinaSi Casvla arcTu iSviaTad miwevs.

_ ramdenime dReSi `el klasiko~gaimarTeba, Semdeg ki saklubo mundia-lia. `barselona~ formis pikSi Sexvdebaam or mniSvnelovan matCs?

_ viciT, ra SegviZlia. ra Tqma un-da, Znelia yovelTvis saukeTeso forma-Si yofna, rodesac amden matCs atareb.kidev vimeoreb, Cvenze ukeT aravin ic-nobs Cvens SesaZleblobebs.

_ 10 dekembris `el klasikos~ mo-uTmenlad eliT?

_ fantastikuri matCi iqneba. Cvenmindorze mxolod gamarjvebisTvis ga-valT, radgan es sezonis meore naxevris-Tvis did stimuls mogvcems. Tuki `real-Tan~ matCSi saqme ise ar wagviva, rogorcgvsurs, ar unda movdundeT, radgan winmsoflios saklubo Cempionatia.

_ bolo dros gvardiola 3-4-3 taq-tikuri sqemiT TamaSobs. mindorze Tavskomfortulad grZnobT?

_ axla moednis centrSi meti fex-burTeli gvyavs da burTsac ukeT vakon-trolebT. es swored isaa, rasac gvardi-ola iTxovs. sanam burTi gvaqvs, metoqesTavisi SesaZleblobebis gamoCenis saSu-aleba ar miecema da Tavis fexburTs veriTamaSebs. garda amisa, meoTxe naxevar-mcveli Setevis xazsac exmareba da mcve-lebsac umsubuqebs samuSaos.

_ ukve me-4 sezonia, gunds gvardio-la wvrTnis.

_ is ̀ barsas~ sakvanZo figuraa. mniS-vnelovani ara mxolod misi yoveldRiu-ri varjiSebia, aramed isic, Tu rogorSeuZlia mas gundis motivireba. is mciredetalebsac ki did mniSvnelobas aniWebs.magaliTad, mas surs, rom eqimebTan er-Tad vivaxSmoT, radgan miiCnevs, rom isi-ni yovelTvis Tvalyurs unda adevneb-dnen fexburTelebs. es da sxva mcire de-talebi erT Zlier gunds Seadgens.

_ gvardiolas mosvlis Semdeg Tqven-ma gundma uburTod moZraoba da Tavisufa-li zonebis aqtiuri Zieba iswavla?

_ diax, es eWvgareSea, magram, isicunda aRvniSnoT, rom aqamde `barselo-nam~ didi gza gaiara. ukve imdeni xania,erTad vTamaSobT, rom kargad viciT, sadiqneba burTi 2-3 pasis Semdeg.

_ didi Sansia, ianvarSi ̀ oqros bur-Ti~ zedized mesamed CaibaroT.

_ prestiJuli titulebis mopove-ba yovelTvis sasiamovnoa. miuxedavadamisa, mTavari saklubo warmatebaa. sasi-amovnoa, rom kandidatebs Soris Cemi Ta-nagundeli welsacaa.

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krosvordi aSveulad: 1. makagoni; 2. oficeri; 3. simdi; 4. erqvani;

5. vengeri; 10. qoleriki; 11. TayaiSvili; 12. iniesta; 15.paniteria; 16. uniaTo; 17. Cafxuti; 20. megre.

Tarazulad: 6. ratifikacia; 7. drozera; 8. klinika;9. sokeri; 13. fino; 14. kamena; 18. perinioni; 19. caiSi; 21.pepsi; 22. polisi; 23. cixisZiri; 24. traileri.

krosvordi bSveulad: 1. feldigiuri; 2. rudaqi; 3. prelati; 4.

folga; 5. bismarki; 6. caiSi; 7. biSkeki; 9. buloni; 13. TeTra;17. gema; 18. iri.

Tarazulad: 1. fosfori; 3. parafi; 8. pikapi. 10.bakalea; 11. giuli; 12. galuazi; 14. niangi; 15. frizeri; 16.kegli; 19. Woroxi; 20. girkani; 21. zekari.

saxalxo krebis aRmasrulebeli sabWoudides qarTvel reJisors, baton

rezo CxeiZesdabadebidan 85 wlisTavs ulocavs.batoni rezos Semoqmedeba, romelic mTel

msoflioSia aRiarebuli, dResac ar kargavsTavis mniSvnelobas. rezo CxeiZe aris adamiani,romelic xelovnebasTan erTad mTelicxovrebis gnmavlobaSi samSoblos emsaxureba.

saxalxo krebis aRmasrulebeli sabWousurvebs baton rezos janmrTelobas daSemdgom warmatebebs.

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batoni rezos Semoqmedeba, romelzec mravali

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filmebis mTavari laitmotivi kacTmoyvareoba da

samSoblos siyvarulia, ris magaliTsac mTeli

cxovrebis ganmavlobaSi didi reJisori Tavad

gviCvenebda. rezo CxeiZis jariskacis mama, Rimilis

biWebi, nergebi da sxva Sedevrebi aRiarebulia ara

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msaxiobi, prodiuseri, musikosi. holivudis

erT-erTi yvelaze maRalanazRaurebadi

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kakali~ (1988), `armagedoni~ (1998), `mexuTe

elementi~ (1997) da sxva.

brius uilisi daibada idar-oberStainSi (dasavle-Ti germania) amerikelisa da germanelis ojaxSi. misi mama,devid uilisi, Tavisufali daqiravebuli mosamsaxure iyoamerikis samxedro nawilSi. maleve ojaxi isev amerikaSidabrunda da briusi gaizarda niu jersis Stat qalaq pens-grouvSi. ojaxSi oTxi Svilidan yvelaze ufrosi, briusi,warmatebiT swavlobda kolej `montklerSi~.

miuxedavad enabluobisa, brius uilisma rva wlisasakidan daiwyo samoyvarulo dramatul studiaSi mecadi-neobas. mosinja simRerac _ bluzis ansambl `lus guzSi~ isakompanirebas Tavis Tavs tuCis garmoniT uwevda. TamaSob-da studentur Teatralur koleqtivSi, xolo Semdeg _arabrodveis scenaze niu orkSi, ris gamoc 1977 wels, 22wlis asakSi kolejSi swavlas Tavi daaneba.

Tavdapirvelad yvela misi mcdeloba, mieRo rolikinoSi, scenaze, televiziaSi, uSedegod mTavrdeboda. sa-RamoobiT brius uilisi dards sasmeliT iqarvebda.

brius uilisma Tavidanve miznad daisaxa, gamxdariyomsaxiobi da amis gamo udidesi Seupovroba gamoavlina,magram misi Zalisxmeva Sou-biznesis korifeebis mier saTa-nadod ar iyo Sefasebuli. ufro zustad rom vTqvaT, uili-sis talanti Seafases ara Teatralur scenaze, aramed niuiorkis popularul barSi `kafe sentali~, sadac drosatarebda msaxiobTa bohema. barSi muSaoba erwymoda misSeupovar mcdelobebs, daeaxlovbina `varskvlavuri saa-Ti~ Teatrsa da kinoSi. brius uiliss mouxda SeesrulebinaarafrismTqmeli rolebi dabali kategoriis filmebsa dareklamebSi. pirveli roli kameris win man iTamaSa jinsisreklamaSi.

1984 wels, sem Separdis piesis arabrodveis scenurversiaSi `Seyvarebuli briyvi~ warmatebulad Sesrulebu-li mTavari rolis Semdeg masze daiwera pirveli dadebi-Ti Sefasebebi da, rogorc iqna, los-anJelesSi sinjebzemiiwvies. briusi kmayofili iyo imiT, rom moxvda los-anJelesSi da mieca olimpiadis naxvis SesaZlebloba, rome-lic ufro Zalian ainteresebda, vidre SemoTavazebuliuintereso roli, romelzec arc ki daamtkices. SemTxve-viT, niu iorkSi dabrunebamde erTi dRiT adre brius uili-si Seiyvanes studiaSi serial `mTvaris Suqis~ sinjebzeda...

amis Semdeg iwyeba istoria didebisa. saerTod, uc-nobi niuiorkeli msaxiobi ise moewonaT prodiuserebs,rom epizoduri rolis magivrad TviT sibila Separdispartniorad aiyvanes. muSaobis pirveli Tveebidan serial-Si brius uilisi gaxda saocrad popularuli, xolo Jurna-listebi Woraobdnen mis da sibilas ekrans miRma romanze.presa ukve gaZlierebul interess iCenda uilisis mimarT.briusma daaxloebiT am periodSi, 1987 wels gaicno damwye-bi msaxiobi, demi muri, romelsac maSin ZiriTadad iRebdneniseT gamsvlel filmebSi, rogorebicaa `paraziti~, `Seyva-rebuli axalgazrda eqimebi~, `gasuli Ramis Sesaxeb~... daaseve filmSi `wminda elmas cecxli~, romliTac miiqciakritikosebis yuradReba. uilisis urTierToba demi mur-Tan mRelvared viTardeboda. briuss uyvarda sma, demicalkoholiki iyo da amis gamo klinikaSic ki mkurnalobda.male isini daqorwindnen.

serialma `mTvaris Suqma~, romelic amerikis teleek-ranebze 1985_1989 wlebSi gadioda, uilisi gaxada aramarto popularuli Semsrulebeli, aramed, mamakacis ide-ali 80-iani wlebis meore naxevarSi. kritikosebis azriT,mayureblebs ainteresebdaT, bolos da bolos, gaxdebod-nen Tu ara davidi da medi (edisonis partniori danaSaulisgamoZiebaSi, romelsac asrulebda sibila Separdi) say-varlebi, swored es iyo mTeli siuJetis ZarRvi. `mTvarisSuqi~ `emis~ premiaze 16 kategoriaSi iyo wardgenili, maTSoris, mamakacis rolis saukeTeso SesrulebisaTvis, ro-melic Cvens gmirs mieniWa.

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1987 wels `pirveli rigis~ holivudur filmSi, reJisor b.edvardsis komediaSi `brma paemani~. debiuti mxolod aTiwlis Zebnis Semdeg aRiares warmatebulad. 1988 wels niu-iorkeli policielis jon makleinis rolma filmSi `kerke-ti kakali~, aCvena Tu ra saukeTesod SeiZleba gamoyenebuliqnes popularuli saxe.

gauTvaliswinebeli situaciis dros damnaSaveebi aR-weven caTambjenSi, sadac makleini unda Sexvdes cols,brius uilisis gmiri axdens saswaulebs borotmoqmedTabandasTan brZolaSi. film `kerketi kaklis~ komerciulmawarmatebam saSualeba misca uiliss, gaegrZelebina Tavisigmiris ekranuli biografia mis gagrZelebaSi _ `kerketikakali 2~ (1990) da `kerketi kakali 3~ (1995), xolo 2007wels gamovida `kerketi kakali 4~. im dros, roca mayurebe-li uiliss aRiqvamda am filmis gmirad, msaxiobma iTamaSasxva rolebic. cnobili reJisoris norman juisonis fil-mSi `qalaqgareT~ (1989) is Seecada warmoeCina vietnamisomis veteranis Rrma fsiqologiuri saxe, xolo filmSi`ambiciis koconi~ (1990) _ popularuli gazeTis reporti-ori, magram uilisis talantis Tayvanismcemlebs mainc surT,rom is naxon ufro eqstravagantur situaciebSi. magali-Tad, deltaplaniT frenis dros dubliorisa da kombini-rebuli gadaRebebis gareSe filmSi `hadson houki~ (1991).is TamaSobs aseve komikur rolebs reJisor r. zemekisisfantastikur komediaSi `mas sikvdili uxdeba~ (1992), sa-dac iyo cnobili msaxiobis meril stripis partniori.

msaxiobi ar iviwyebs Tavis gatacebas musikisadmi _filmSi `uyure, kidev vin laparakobs~ (1990) briusi mRerisTavisive daweril simReras, xolo misi firfita `briusuilisi: brunos dabruneba~ gamovida 1987 wels.

TviT msaxiobis TqmiT, is ar Tvlis Tavis pirad cxov-rebas farTo ganxilvis sagnad. albaT, amitomac aris, rommis feSenebelur saxls holivudSi garSemo artyia eqvsfu-tiani simaRlis kedeli. Tumca, presa xelidan ar uSvebsyovel axal movlenas misi `ekransmiRma~ cxovrebidan.

brius uilisi Tavis kerpebad da misabaZ magaliTebadmiiCnevs iseT erTmaneTisagan gansxvavebul msaxiobebs, ro-gorebic arian robert de niro, robert diuvali, alpaCino, keri granti, bob houpi, robert mitCeli da stivmakquini. uilisis yvela saxelganTqmul kolegebs aqvT mi-Rebuli mravali premia da jildo, xolo mas araferigaaCnia, garda mayureblis siyvarulisa. 1994 wels is arwaradgines `oskarze~ filmisaTvis `makulatura~, maSinroca briusis yvela partniori dasaxelebuli iyo nominan-tad. aseve moxda 1995 welsac _ akademiam gverdi auara misbrwyinvale namuSevars filmSi `Tormeti maimuni~, samagie-rod daajildova axali varskvlavi bred piti.

brius uilisi, sabednierod, mxiaruli adamiania daamisagan ar qmnis tragedias. es ar axdens gavlenas arc mismaterialur mdgomareobaze. is aris erT-erTi maRalanaz-Raurebadi holivudis msaxiobi.

S v e ul a d :1. germania-Si gamoyvanili samomsaxureo jiSis ZaR-li; 2. ZmarSi Cadebuli Roris moxarSulifexebisgan momzadebuli kerZi; 3. itali-uri restorani; 4. mimReb-gadamcemi radi-osadguri; 5. qarTuli zRaprebis perso-naJi, didi frinveli; 6. amerikuli saav-tomobilo koncerni; 7. norvegieli mwe-rali, nobelis premiis laureati; 9. me-fis sigeli; 13. veloriqSa indoeTSi; 17.aRmosavluri tkbileuli; 18. uqoCro, mo-laparake TuTiyuSi.Tarazulad: 1. moxsenebis, statiis mokleSinaarsi; 3. zogi mcenaris miwisqveSa, gam-sxvilebuli fesvi; 8. budistTa samlocve-lo CineTsa da iaponiaSi; 10. Cais mwarmoe-beli qarTuli firma; 11. balneologiuri

kurorti samegreloSi; 12. ubani Zvel TbilisSi; 14. msubuqi trfiali, arSiyoba; 15. ZvelberZeni filosofosi; 16.Camowolili nisli, burusi; 19. kolumbiis dedaqalaqi; 20. sportis olimpiuri saxeoba; 21. fulis erTeuli avstraliaSi.

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_ Tornike Sengelia 20-wlamdelTa evropis Cempiona-tis b divizionSi aSkarad gamorCeuli gaxldaT da saqar-Tvelos axalgazrduli nakrebis CempionobaSi didi wvli-li daido, aRniSnulis Semdeg ki litvaSi gamarTul evro-basketzec bevri gaaoca. miuxedavad imisa, rom mas TamaSifarisgan moSorebiT uwevda, mZime forvardi moxsnebSiSeudarebeli gaxldaT da arc fizikur orTabrZolebserideboda, _ weria veb-gverdze.

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