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Small Robot Drive TrainsBy Ibrahim Kamal
Last update: 4/4/08
1-Traction and steering mechanisms There are many types of mechanisms that have been developed to move a robot from a place to
another, more than you could imagine, however, we will only study some of those techniques
which are the most adequate to relatively small robots:
1.1- Differential Drive system: This is the most common locomotion scheme in the world of
robotics. It's easy to build, easy to control and can permit the robot to move in all requireddirections. In that system, two motors are connected, one to each of the two drive wheels at the
right and at the left of the robot's base. Those two motors are responsible of driving the
Table of content:
Overview
Traction and steering mechanisms
Mounting the motors
Transmitting power to the wheels
Diameter of the wheels, speed and torque
Mass distribution and robot stability
Acquiring small motors and Building materials
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Overview
This Tutorial Aims to introduce to beginner thedifferent techniques used to build the chassisand drive trains of relatively small robots.W h a t I m e an b y sm a l l r o b o t s , i s t h e c a t e g o r y o f l ig h t
w e ig h t r o b o t s w h e r e a s p e c t s l i k e a er o d y n am i c s a n d
v i b r a t i on d am p i n g a r e n o t t a k e n i n a c co u n t .
Most of the fundamental theory remain the same for all
sizes of robots, Theory such as robot stability, traction
and steering techniques. However, This tutorial is
dedicated tothe construction of relatively small robots,explaining how to the implement your designs using
material and equipment at the reach of any average level
hobbyist.
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As you can also notice in the figure 1.A, this system needs one or more caster wheels (also called
free-wheels) to support the rest of the chassis while freely following the movement of the robot
engaged by the two main drive wheels. Some robots use 2 caster wheels, adjacent to the drivewheels for better stability, but again, in the category of small robots, one caster wheel can be
enough.
in a horizontal position. This technique becomes interesting when used for lightweight robots,
where caster wheels can cause even more friction than the skids, and add additional and
unnecessary weight to the robot.
You can also notice in the figure 1B that the rear skid is not touching the ground, and thus is nota primary skid, but rather a secondary one just in case the robot pivots around the drive wheels
to the back during a sudden acceleration for example.
1.2- Four wheel differential drive system:
robot back and forth as well as steering in
any required direction. This system can
even allow a robot to pivot in its place.
The word "differential" comes from the fact
that this system relies on the velocity
difference between the two wheels to drive
the robot in the required path and make it
move in any required curve.
Figure 1A shows in a simplified way the
principle of operation of differential drive.
When the left and right motors are turningat the same speed, the robot moves
forward or backward in a straight line. In
order to turn right for example, the right
motor is slowed down and the whole robot
steers to the right. The bigger the
difference of speed between the two
wheels, the tighter will be the steering
curve. F i g u r e 1 . A : D i f f e r e n t i a l d r i v e s y s t em
Many roboticists
even replace this
single freewheel with
a piece of bent metal
or any other low
friction surface to
act as skid that slips
on the ground under
the action of the
driving wheels.
Figure 1B shows the
chassis of one of our
line follower robots
where skids are used
along with the drive
wheels to support itF i g u r e 1 . B : Sk i d s u s e d o n a d i f f e r e n t i a l d r i v e t r a i n
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friction, it requires relatively powerful motors, as compared to the previous differential drive
scheme. The advantage of this system is that it is very easy to build and is most suitable for
running on low friction and dusty surfaces where other drive systems would suffer.
1.3- Car-type drive system: This drive system has many names, but calling it "car-type" make it
clear to any reader, that it consists of 2 wheels coupled on the same axe at the back and one or
two wheels capable of steering to control the displacement of the robot. While this technique is
very difficult to implement mechanically, it provides two major advantages over other tractionsystems: Ease of control and accuracy (because traction and steering are connected to two
independent motors). The best way to build your first 'car-type' drive train is to look at any old RC
toy car. You can also use some parts of it's drive train to build your own, or even use the
allowing the green axe (in the figure) linking the two front wheels together to move freely along
the axis of the chassis.
There can be many other configurations based on the same idea, like a 2 wheel traction / 1 wheel
steering drive train, which may be a little simpler to construct because the front wheel can be
directly connected to a gearhead DC motor.
1.4- Divided chassis drive train:This is another locomotion scheme that we experienced, which has the advantage of being very
powerful and highly configurable. Inneed, this system relies on 4 independent motors, each one
coupled to one of the four wheels, allowing the robot to move forward or backward with the
Another variation of the differential drive system, is the 4
wheel differential drive system, which resembles the drive
trains of tanks and bulldozers.
As figure 1c shows, it consists of only two motors and 4
wheels. Each pair of wheels are mechanically connected
together, usually by the mean of a belt forcing them to
move together, driven by a single motor.
The behavior of this drive train is similar to the previous
differential drive system; If the the two motors turn at the
same speed, the robot moves forward or backward, if there
is a difference between the speed of the two motors, the
robot will steer in the direction of the slower motor.
This drive system implicates a great deal of friction,
specially during steering, and thus, to overcome this F i g u r e 1 . C: 4 w h e e l d i f f e r e n t i a l d r i v e s y s t em
chassis of a brand-new RC toy car
for your robot, as we did in the
WFR project. Figure 1.D shows a
simplified layout showing the
principle of operation this drive
system. Connecting the front
(steering) wheels to the motor can
be very complicated, but a basic
rack and pinion arrangement can be
enough for very low steering angles,
otherwise, for relatively high
steering angles, the rack and pinion
arrangement will have to be
enhanced with a sliding mechanism F i g u r e 1 . D : B a s i c c a r - t y p e d r i v e t r a i n
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the two rear motors are used either to push it or to bend the chassis (like a toy train) to turn
right or left by running one of the two motors faster than the other.
One last special feature of this system is that it has no head nor tail, in other words, there is no
difference between the front part of the chassis and the rear one, making it possible for the robot
to change it's direction, to adapt to any situation, without having to execute a 180 degrees
rotation.
2-Mounting the MotorsWhen you are settled on a traction and steering mechanism for your robot, you have to find a way
of fixing the motors firmly to the chassis. At this point, in order to construct a professional drive
train, you have to take those points in consideration:
You have to be able to mount and dismount the motor easily. Gluing, soldering and other
permanent fixing solutions are not good ones. As a roboticist, building a prototype, You have to
able the make any modifications easily.
The outer shell of a motor is not designed to bear high, undistributed stresses. whatever the
method you are using to mount and hold your motors in place, you have to increase the contact
area between the motor's body and the mechanical part linking it to the chassis to prevent stress
concentration and eventually damaging the motor.
There are many items that you can buy at your nearest hardware store, to use it to mount themotor on the chassis, I present some ideas that I find to be the most adequate to this category
of robots.
2.1- Pipe Clamps:
accumulated power of four motors
or to turn right and left with
approximately equivalent power, but
with minimum frictional losses.
Figure 1.E shows how to implement
such a configuration, and shows
how the the chassis is divided into
two parts, hinged together, allowing
it to change it's shape to turn in
tight curves.
Usually, the two front motors areused only to drag the robot, while F i g u r e 1 . E: P i ct u r e a n d l a y o u t o f t h e d i v i d e d c h a s s i s
Because they come in any size you want, because they
are cheap, and because it can be used with any motor,
this is my favorite choice. Initially, at the name implies,
pipe clamps are used to fix water pipes on walls. Due to
the resemblance of size and shape between the outer
shell of a standard DC motor and water pipes, those
clamps are very adequate to the job of holding motors
firmly in place, while distributing any eventual stress along
the whole contact surface.
Figure 2.A shows a standard pipe clamp, where the right
bolt was replaced with a longer 4mm screw, to be used
later to fix the motor-clamp assembly to the chassis. Note
F i g u r e 2 . A : P i p e c lam p
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2.2-U-bolts:
2.3- Building your own bracket:
If your motor is too small, too big or just not adequate to any of the previous solutions, building
your own bracket to hold your motor is not that difficult. You have to use your imagination, and
cope with the components, tools and materials that are at your reach. At this point i'll only give
you hints of materials you could use to easily attach your motors.
that there are many varieties of pipe clamps, so it's up to
you to pay a visit to your hardware store and find the one
that would be the most suitable according to your design.
Most Pipe clamps come with a nut welded to it, allowing
easier fixation to any adjacent plan (that plan can be a
wall as it can be the chassis of your robot).
Figure 2.B shows how a motor fits in that pipe clamp.
Adding small parts of rubber between the surfaces of the
motor and the clamp can be a good idea, as it will absorb
any eventual vibration, and protect the motor's body.
Figure 2.C shows how a pipe clamp can be used to mountthe motor on the chassis. As you can notice, one of the
main advantages of using a pipe clamp, is that you can
easily adjust the distance between the motor and the
base of the robot to which the motor is fixed, which is not
the case with other solutions, like the U-Bolt idea..
F i g u r e 2 . B : DC m o t o r & pipe clamp
F ig u r e 2 . C
If for any reason the pipe clamp solution cannot be used,
this is the second best choice. I've never used thistechnique to fix motors, but i've seen it used by many
hobbyists. The two reasons making this technique less
effective that pipe clamps are:
1- The contact area is relatively small, thus stress
concentration can be a problem. This problem can be
solved by using more than one U-bolt for each motor.
2- The U-bolt is designed to hold a circular object by
pushing it against a fixed surface. As figure 2.E shows, in
our application, the circular object is the motor and the
fixed surface is the chassis. so the height of the motor
from the ground depends on the height of the part of the
chassis where the motor is fixed. In contrast, with Pipe
clamps, you can easily adjust the distance between the
chassis and the motor.
Figure 2.D: U-BoltPicture from: http://www.gibsonstainless.com/
Figure 2.E: U-Bolt on a motor
- A rubber band (figure 2.F) can hold your motor in place
exactly like a U-Bolt, while giving it some elasticity to
absorb shocks and vibrations. You can obtain really strong
rubber belts from old cassette players.
Figure 2.F
- Thick copper wire can also be used instead of the U-
bolt, although it has the major disadvantage of being a
permanent solution, any modification will be destructive and
new wires will have to be installed. Figure 2.G shows actual
pictures of DC motors that's I've mounted on one of my firstrobots.
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- Metal sheets formingis the best alternative to U-Bolts and pipe clamps if you have the tools,
skill, and material to do the job. Then you can form the exact required shape to firmly hold your
motor in place. I personally recommend Aluminum as a working material. It's corrosion resistance,
it's light weight and it's machinability, make it a perfect match for small robots.
3-Transmitting power to the wheels There are many way of transmitting the power from the motor's shaft to the wheels, but in any
case, friction is your biggest enemy. The frictional losses increase when the weight of the robot
increases, specially if you're not using any ball bearings to support the shaft, which is usually thecase in small robots. I am going to categorize the various techniques used for power transmission
into two main categories: Direct transmission and Un direct transmission.
3.1 -Direct transmission
3.1.1- Direct transmission from a DC Motor, Which is when the wheels are directly mounted on
the motor's shafts. This technique is only acceptable when working with very light weight robots,
otherwise, those relatively small DC motors are not mechanically designed to bear any bending
stresses that could be caused by directly mounting a wheel on it. Usually the internal
3.1.2- Direct transmission from a gearhead DC motor is the most common method used by
roboticists, specially for the category of robot we are talking about. That's because the output
Figure 2.G
- Plastic strap fastener, is still a permanent solution, but
has the advantage of providing a strong attachment, while
being easily introduced and fastened in small places where
it would be harder to install copper wires or rubber bands.
Figure 2.H
bearing of those motors are designed to withstand the
stresses required to keep a gear in place in a gearbox,
or to withstand the tension in a rubber belt. In Mostcases, directly mounting the output shaft of a DC motor
to a wheel is rarely the best choice because without
any speed reduction, the developed torque wont be
enough to easily move a robot around. Figure 3.1.1
shows an example of how a small plastic wheel can be
mounted to the tiny shaft of small motors. As you can
see this is the same idea used in most toy cars, where
parts are simply forced in their place. This is more
interesting than more advanced shaft coupling
techniques when you're working with tiny motors,
because it would be very difficult to drill it's output
shaft to install setscrews or pins.Figure 3.1.1
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3.2-Undirect transmission
Undirect transmission means that the shaft holding the wheels is on a totally different plane than
the output shaft of the motor. Usually, between those two shaft is a reduction belt/gears
arrangement. Undirect transmission is more suited to heavy robots, where rolling bearings are
installed to support the shaft holding the wheels, to minimize any frictional losses due to the
technique on one of our early robots, where each wheel is mounted to a 6mm steel shaft,
supported at both ends with rolling bearings. There is no obligation to put the rolling bearing at
both sides of the wheel (the two rolling bearing can be placed at the same side of the wheel as in
figure 3.2A) but you have to put two of them, each one as distant from the other as possible, to
reduce shear stresses on the rolling bearings. (rolling bearings are designed to withstand very high
radialstresses). While you're looking at the pictures, you can notice how the motors are mounted
with i e clam s as ex lained before.
shaft from the gearbox of a gearhead motor are
designed withstand higher stresses than the output
shaft of the motor itself and has a very suitable output
characteristics (low RPM and high toque). That can be
noticed from the shape of the output shaft of a
gearhead DC motor in the figures 3.1.2A and 3.1.2B,
which is not fully circular to be able to firmly secure it
to a shaft coupling or to a wheel in our case.
There are many ways to fix a wheel to the output shaft
of a gearhead DC motor, one of the simplest ways is to
drill a hole in the body of the wheel, of the exact
diameter of the screw to be used. Forcing the screw inthe drilled material for the first time will form a helixmating the thread of your screw, allowing you to fasted
the shaft in its place by simply driving the screw.
If the wheel you are using doesn't have an extended
shaft as shown in figure 3.1.2A, you will have to find
another mean of fastening the motor's shaft to the
wheel, but virtually any wheel you will find is designed
to be mounted on a shaft, so using your imagination,
you'll end up finding a solution to that problem,
depending on the shape and size of the wheel.
Figure 3.1.2B shows the output shaft of an old PITMAN
GearHead DC motor.
Figure 3.1.2 A
Figure 3.1.2 B
weight of the robot. Mechanically speaking, any wheel is to be
fixed with rolling bearings, so this is the best method of all, but
again, you have to remember that there are some compromises
that can be made with small robots, to reduce cost, weight and
complexity.
Figure 3.2A shows a classic undirect transmission system,
where the rotation of the motor's shaft is transmitted through a
reduction pulley arrangement, lowering the RPM of the wheel,
while increasing the torque. Notice how the the full weight of
the robots is distributed only on the two rolling bearings, makingthis drive train much more robust than other where the wheels
are directly mounted on the motors.
Figure 3.2B and 3.2C shows a practical implementation of this Figure 3.2A
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4-Diameter of the wheels, speed and torque With a constant output RPM from a motor, The diameter of the wheel is the last criteria that can
affect the the balance between the torque of the robot and it's linear velocity.
Consider the wheel in figure 4, having a radius rturning with a constant angular velocity (RPM) wwww,
Pa point on the circumference of the wheel, Tthe torque developed from the motor acting on the
ground plane and F the reaction force of the ground on the wheel.
that increasing the radius of the wheel will increase the velocity of the robot, but also increase
the resisting torque that the robot have to overcome. Thus, varying the radius of the wheel, you
can make a compromise between linear velocity and torque of the robot.
5-Mass distribution, Moment of Inertia and robot stability One of the most important phenomenon that can affect the behavior of moving robots is the
moment of inertia. The moment of inertia, which is different for each shape, size, weight and
trajectory of a moving rigid body, is the ability of that rigid body to resist a change in its
velocity. The force developed by the moment of inertia appears at the center of gravity of the
body, and acts as a mechanical moment around the pivot point of the robot (usually a wheel) in
the a direction opposing the change of velocity.
In order to better understand the effect of mass distribution on the moment of inertia and
consequently on the stability of a moving robot, let's imagine this scenario where a simple robot
(as shown in figure 5.A) is moving at a constant velocity in the horizontal direction. Recalling the
secondlaw of Newton, and noting that theacceleration of the robot equals zero,
Figure 3.2B Figure 3.2C
Let Tfbe the torque developed by the ground as reaction
to the wheel's movement. This is the torque resisting the
robot's movement. For the robot to move from rest (or to
accelerate), Tmust be bigger than Tf.
The toque Tf = F.r.......(1)
Also note the that the linear velocity of the robot equals
the linear velocity of any given point on the outer
circumference of the wheel,
Then the velocity V = wwww.r.......(2)
From the relations (1) and (2), you can easily deduce Figure 4
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of inertial depends on the rate of change of velocity (the acceleration). You can greatly decrease
the effect of inertia by controlling the acceleration and deceleration of your robot, through
ingenious speed control algorithms
6-Finding motors and building material
The easiest way to acquire all the material and equipment you need to build a robot, is to buy it!But that's not the cheapest way, and sometimes you won't find all what you need in the stores.
That's why - if you plan to dig your way in the field of robotics - you should start collecting all
the force F1 moving the robot forward
equals the resistance force R1 (which is the
sum of all mechanical friction losses in the
system). The stability problem will start to
appear when this moving robot will suddenly
stop.
In that situation, there is a change of
velocity, a deceleration or a negative
acceleration as some books states and the
moment of inertia of the robot will resist this
change of velocity, by generating a force
acting in the previous direction of motion,tryingto keep the robot moving in the same
direction, with the same velocity.
In figure 5.B, the effect of the moment of
inertia is somehow exaggerated to clearly
show the unstability that can be caused by
this problem. To solve this problem, and
design robots that have very low inertia,
you have to understand those two main
factors that affect the inertia of a body:
A- The position of center of gravity has tobe as near as possible from the ground or
from the eventual pivot point (which are the
wheels in case of our example robot). This is
verified by the mathematical relation that
state that:
I = m.(r^2)
Where I is the moment of inertia, m the
mass of the body, r the distance between
the center of mass of the body and the
pivot point
To change the position of the center of
mass of your robot, you have to lower the
position of the heavy parts of the robots like
the batteries and the motors.
You also have to design the chassis to be as
near as possible from the ground (as shown
in figure 5.C). If all that is not enough, or if
the chassis simply isn't heavy enough, it's
common practice to add additional weights
as near as possible from the ground with the
sole purpose of lowering the overall centerof mass of the robot.
B-The torque developed by the moment
F i g u r e 5 . A
F i g u r e 5 . B
F ig u r e 5 . C
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kind of devices from which you can scavenge all kind and sizes of DC motor, mechanical parts,
gears, pulleys, etc.
From my experience, I tried to classify the kind of devices from which you could extract useful
items, at least, this is what I do with those devices before throwing them away.
Old cassette players and walkmans: Small Motors, pulleys, belts, gears.
Old Floppy disk and CD-ROM drives: Very small motors, worm gear, sliding mechanism, gears, limit
switches
Old Photocopier machines, printers and scanners: quality Gearhead DC motors, sliding mechanisms,
rubber wheels, gears.
As for the chassis, it can be built with a multitude of materials. My preferred material is Copper
boards (made for PCBs) as you can solder many metals to it like screws and nuts, you can also
design the main board of the robot on the same board to reduce size, weight and cost.
My second best choice is the Fiberglass. It can be easily formed with a a cutter, can be easily
drilled, can sustain high stresses, and looks very neat an professional.
Another good choice for building the chassis of the robot is the 3mm Medium Density fibers (MDF
wood) which has the advantage of being very cheap, and can be very easily cut, drilled and
grinded to any shape you want. The only disadvantage of this material is that it can easily
deteriorate with water or even too high humidity.
Those were the material I found to be more suitable for this category of robots.
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Posted by:
demonhackeron: 10 Jun 2009
Re: Small Robot Drive Trains ['Quote]
Q u o t i n g i k a l o g i c :
buddy your question is irrelevant.please elaborate your query so that the other person getsthe clear idea of your concern.
Q u o t e : sir , i am verythankful for all this guidance but i want to know that howaerodynamics is used to make robotics?
Posted by:
ikalogicon: 07 Oct 2008
Re: Small Robot Drive Trains ['Quote]
Search on e-bay for modeling and hobby wheels, you should find what you
need
small advice from a mechatronics engineer: start by chosing your motors,
and depending on their couple, chose the biggest possible diameter for the
wheels, that will still be small enough to deliver enough couple to move your
robot around all those terrains...
Q u o t in g a b h i g em _ 1 2 6 : hey, i am building a differential drive that can move on all kind ofterrains, namely sand, peebles, greasy path, water ditch, bumper... etc. can u guys help me
with what kind of wheels to use??? what kinda grip to use???
Posted by:
abhigem_126on: 07 Oct2008
Small Robot Drive Trains ['Quote]
hey, i am building a differential drive that canmove on all kind of terrains,
namely sand, peebles, greasy path, water ditch, bumper... etc. can u guys
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help me with what kind of wheels to use??? what kinda grip to use???
Posted by:
ikalogicon: 19 Aug 2008
Re: Small Robot Drive Trains ['Quote]
I could, but the first thing you have to know is that it would be big mistake
to put all that weight on the robot. you have to keep all the batteries,
motors, and electronics on the fixed base, and use wire systems to transmit
the mechanical power to the different parts of the ARM...
Q u o t i n g g y a a n g u r u : hellowe are working on a project in which we trying to make a robotic arm on a moving base. .since we are all electrical students we are having a bit of difficulty in designing base andfinding motors. the total weight of the arm + batteries (lead acid) +electronics = 7 kg .could you please tell me the type of motor required in terms of torque. how do we calculatethe torque requirements in general. preferably a speed of 0.6m/s (2 ft/sec) is required.could to teach us how to go about these calculationsthank u
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gyaanguruon: 18 Aug 2008
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hello
we are working on a project in which we trying to make a robotic arm on a
moving base. . since we are all electrical students we are having a bit of
difficulty in designing base and finding motors. the total weight of the arm +
batteries (lead acid) +electronics = 7 kg .could you please tell me the type of motor required in terms of torque. how
do we calculate the torque requirements in general. preferably a speed of
0.6m/s (2 ft/sec) is required.
could to teach us how to go about these calculations
thank u
Posted by:
ikalogicon: 23 May 2008
Re: Small Robot Drive Trains ['Quote]
15cm is more than enough, and with that size of robots, you can use the
PCB material for the chassis, as in our mini line follower robot project. I
think it is the most suitable for that size
Q u o t i n g s a if : about 15cm dia... v had decided on 20cm but since most of the collegecompetitions here in bangalore(india) fix the maze width at abt 20-25cm max.. nd aso theyfix a max limit to ur chassis width as sumthin lik 20cm.. so that is it-15 cm... u think its too
less?
Posted by:
saifon: 23 May 2008
Re: Small Robot Drive Trains ['Quote]
about 15cm dia... v had decided on 20cm but since most of the college
competitions here in bangalore(india) fix the maze width at abt 20-25cm
max.. nd aso they fix a max limit to ur chassis width as sumthin lik 20cm..
so that is it-15 cm... u think its too less?
Posted by:
ikalogicon: 22 May 2008
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circuilar is ok, but, as fr the material of the chassis, i can't tell you unless
you tell me, what is the size of your robot?
same thing for the battery.
Q u o t i n g s a if : salam... hey vr actually designing a chassis which v decided to be cicular withjust 2 wheels ndpassive skids.. is a circular chassis ok wid u? v decided on it coz it canrotate freely in any direction easily... even a 360 turn... nd wot material do u recommend 4the chassis? it shud be light as well as sturdy..nd do u recommend a lead acid or nicad battery?
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so, what's the size of your robot?
Posted by:
saifon: 22 May 2008
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salam... hey vr actually designing a chassis which v decided to be cicular
with just 2 wheels nd passive skids.. is a circular chassis ok wid u? v
decided on it coz it can rotate freely in any direction easily... even a 360
turn... nd wot material do u recommend 4 the chassis? it shud be light as
well as sturdy..
nd do u recommend a lead acid or nicad battery?
Posted by:
ikalogicon: 28 Feb 2008
Re: Small Robot Drive Trains ['Quote]
Good question!
You can either do it the easy way, which is to use 'skids' that will act just
as a wheel but with more friction..
Or you can do it the hard way, wich is to build a robot with only 2 weels in
the midle, and to constantly accelerate and decelerate the wheels, acting
on the momentof intertia of the robot to stabiliseit.. or maybe you have tohave a mean of changing the center of gravity of the robot to give it the
ability to balance itself horrisontally.. there lot of ongoing researches about
this subject.. you may find some information on wikipedia..
hope this answers your question.
Q u o t e : how can we construct a small robort which has only 2 wheels and can turn and movein any direction
Posted by:
ikalogicon: 28 Feb 2008
Re: Small Robot Drive Trains ['Quote]
Well, unless you wroking with robots that go in the air on in the sea, or
that are very fast, aerodynamics usually is not a big concern. I honnestly
don't have a lot of experience in this field so i can't give you more
information.
good luck
Q u o t e : sir , i am very thankful for all this guidance but i want to know that how aerodynamicsis used to make robotics?
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ikalogicon: 28 Feb 2008
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discussion for the page: [link]
Gearhead DC motors (which are normal brushed DC motors, with a gearbox
attached to it's output shaft, to decrease speed and increase torque)
Q u o t e : sir i have gone through the site,i want to know which motor is prefered for the betterefficiency of the robots.(what type it is?)
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