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Struggling with Difficult Conversations? facilitated by Doug Rowe Disclaimer : Results will vary in different situations and with different personalities. We cannot be held liable or responsible for any conflicts caused directly or indirectly by the information and assistance shared today. with assistance by TIE team coaches: Barb Rowenhorst Colby Christensen Deb O’Doan Lacey Hoogland MaryLou McGirr Pam Lange

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Struggling with Difficult Conversations?facilitated by Doug Rowe

Disclaimer :

• Results will vary in different situations and with different personalities.

• We cannot be held liable or responsible for any conflicts caused directly or indirectly by the information and assistance shared today.

with assistance by TIE team coaches:

• Barb Rowenhorst• Colby Christensen• Deb O’Doan• Lacey Hoogland• MaryLou McGirr• Pam Lange

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Resources Utilized

• Crucial Conversation: Tools for Talking When Stakes are High by Kerry Patterson, Joseph Grenny, Ron McKillan & Al Switzler, © 2002 Crucial conversations are characterized by high stakes, strong emotions, and varied opinions.

• Integrity: The Courage to Meet the Demands of Reality by Dr. Henry Cloud © 2006 Excellent resource that contains situations utilizing great communication.

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The strength of this book lies within its stories. In fact when I re-read this book, I discovered that I remembered the stories but struggled remembering the key aspects.

Thus for today’s sessions, the book’s key aspects will be shared and afterwards we’ll utilize scenarios to create our own stories.

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The 7 tools (book chapters) for success in Crucial Conversations:Principles Skills Critical Questions

1. Start with Heart • Work on improving me first• Focus on what you really want• Refuse the Sucker’s Choice

• What do I really want?• Am I behaving in ways that move me toward what I want ?

2. Learn to Look • Look for when a conversation becomes crucial• Look for silence and violence

• Am I noticing signs that safety is at risk?• Am I moving to my Style under Stress?

3. Make it Safe • Apologize when appropriate• Contrast to fix misunderstanding• Create mutual purpose

• Have I established mutual purpose?• Have I maintained respect?

4. Master My Stories • Separate facts from stories• Watch for three clever stories (Victim, Villain, and Helpless)

• Am I pretending not to notice my role in the problem?• Why would a rational and decent person act this way?

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Continuation of the 7 tools (chapters) to be successful:Principles Skills Critical Questions

5. STATE My Path • Share your facts• Tell your story• Ask for other’s paths• Talk tentatively• Encourage testing

• Am I really open to other’s views?• Am I confidently expressing my own views?

6. Explore Other Paths • Explore with added AMPP (Ask, Mirror, Paraphrase, Prime)

• Am I actively exploring others’ views?

7. Move to Action • Decide how to decide• Document who does what by when and follow-up

• What is the plan from here?

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Today’s GoalsTo enhance your understanding of the tools/strategies

that are useful when engaged in difficult conversations.1. Having the ability to conduct good conversations increase the “shared pool of

meaning” which is the “birthplace of synergy” That is important for us.2. Problems can be solved when we work from a “shared mutual purpose”. Our

mission and vision statements help communicate our shared mutual purpose, but ”we do work to improve the student experience, to improve the teachers experience, and to improve the administrator experience.” We have a strong start on having good Crucial Conversations because we have a shared purpose. That is important for us.

3. When we don’t have the conversations we really need to have, we develop “stories” about each other. These stories can be detrimental and they can create stumbling blocks to productivity and success. If we don’t talk it out, we will act it out. This book provides a protocol for talking it out. That is important for us.

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Crucial Conversation A discussion between two or more people where (1) stakes are high, (2) opinions vary, and (3) emotions run strong.

This usually occurs when we care deeply about what's being discussed and/or care about the people with whom such is being discussed.

They can be hard conversations because of our real or perceived fears of the resulting consequences.

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SKey Finding: .. If you don’t talk it out, you will act it out..

Overview – Crucial Conversations

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If one could pick one’s ConversationsWhich of the following would you find the hardest to say

“NO” Why?

1. Sam, a fellow employee, always complains that his hard work and expertise are not being recognized. He works harder and longer thananybody else but receives little recognition and clearly is being underpaid. He wants you to correct such by talking to his boss.

2. Kevin (who frequently insults you and others) tells you about his fear of intimacy and how he feels this comes from being rejected by his siblings early in his childhood. He is asking you to explain to the team that he is a valuable collaborative player.

3. Sabrina (a close friend of 10 years) tells you that she feelslike a failure, never having accomplished what she setsout to do, or what others thought she should accomplish. She is asking you to recommend her to be hire for a position at TIE.

Talk this Over

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Overview - Crucial ConversationCrucial conversations are frequently spontaneous. More often than not, they come out of nowhere. And you are usually caught by surprise.

If feelings and emotions weren't involved, the conversation probably wouldn't be too difficult. But that generally is not the case.

Key Finding:While we can't change the emotions that arise, we can change how we respond. We do this by being consciously present and aware of what's taking place and avoid reacting to "emotional hooks.“

If one doesn’t get to the source of a person’s feelings, you will get the effects of their feelings.

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Maintain balance Key AspectPrevent one’s emotional state from “over-riding”the situation

That is, the intellectual brain (neocortex)must appropriately balance the vs.emotional brain (mammalian)

We do this by asking questions whichsignals that our thinking capacity is thebody part that needs to be engaged.

Note: Almost as if another person emerges from you – a different person, and ugly one.

Note: It has been documented that Emotions can quickly double your heartbeat and can even last for up to three days due to the chemicals that are released into your body.

Emotions

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Remember: If your conscious mind does not set a goal (an action) for the conversation, your unconscious mind will.

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Some Facts Selected

Some Interpretations

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Some Judgments

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Some Conclusions

Drawn

Story Actions

WordsConsciously choose what you want toachieve and focus to make it happen.

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Key Aspect: Ask Questions Activate Conscious Mind

> Why am I raising my voice? > Why am I feeling so mad?> Why am I feeling so threatened? > Do they think I’m stupid?

> Why is their face so red? > Why does she look mad? > Why aren’t they talking? > Why do they look hurt?

> What is causing this reaction? > Can I explain this in a better way?> What is causing their insecurity?> What is causing this mistrust?

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Remember: If your conscious mind does not set a goal (an action) for the conversation, your unconscious mind will.

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edKey Concept: You create your own emotions. What someone else does to you does not cause your emotions.

It is the story you tell yourself that creates your emotions.

Some Facts Selected

Some Interpretations

Made

Some Judgments

Made

Some Conclusions

Drawn

Story Actions

Words

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If needed, retrace your path to gain a sense of What do I really want for Me, for Others, and for this Relationship?

Are these the right facts?Is this the right emotion? Am I telling the right story?

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Avoid these stories: Victim Story I am an innocent victim I had no involvement nor did I contribute to it.

Villain Story It’s okay to act this way or say such because they deserve it.

Helpless Story There was nothing else I could do as I did not have any other choice.

“My TIE team doesn’t appreciate my talents anyway. In fact they don’t like me – so why should I put forth extra effort to make them successful”

“Colby is going to get all the credit anyway – he’s Julie’s favorite – so why do I even try”

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Avoid the Sucker’s ChoiceThese are false dilemmas that suggest we face only two options (thinking that the answer/action is deciding between either/or, yes/no, this/that side) when in fact we face a variety of choices.

Step 1. Clarify What You Really Want “I value our friendship and I value being honest with you” Step 2. Clarify What You Don’t Want. “I don’t want us to have an argument that creates bad feelings and leaves this situation unchanged” Step 3. Find an “and” solution (ask why the “or” can’t be changed to “and”) “How can we have a candid conversation about this that leads to a solution and that is workable/comfortable for both of us?”

“If I don’t agree with you thenI will lose you as a friend”

“I can either get this work doneon time or do it in a quality manner”

“You are either with me or against me”

Others would be: _________________

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Effective Communication: Activate the Conscious Mind for All involved.

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State your Path: Express your views in a way that makes it safe for others to hear them (and even disagree) by sharing your path the wayyou experienced it – from facts to actions.

You do this in a way that encourages and respects other people’s point of view.

S Share your facts

T Tell your story

A Ask for others’ paths

T Talk cautiously

E Encourage testing

Note: People have to know when your facts end and your stories begin.

Help them do the same (which facts are creating their stories)

Be curious – not furious

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Effective Communication: Key Aspect #3 Establish Safety

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Effective Communication:

Not Safe

Whether it’s Silence or Violence, each represents a person’s attempt to get into their comfort zone and/or get their own way

Masking hiding one’s true opinion or emotionAvoiding choosing not to share information (know it’s a bad decision but don’t speak up) Withdrawing emotionally or physically

Controlling only our information gets sharedLabeling eliminating the sharing of their info (by putting down the other person’s ideas)Attacking emotionally or physically

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There are two things people need to know to feel safe:

1. You care about their best interests and goals (Mutual Purpose)

2. You care about them (Mutual Respect)

Key Aspect:

Without Mutual Purpose, people withhold meaning.

Without Mutual Respect, people aren’t willing to listen to a different viewpoint.

When you sense that someone is withdrawingfrom the conversation, then back off on the content – the key aspects of the conversation – and temporality “step out” and rebuild Mutual Purposeand Respect, then return to the content.

DIALOGUE

Pool of Shared Meaning

Safety

Safety

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DIALOGUE

Pool of Shared Meaning

Safety

Safety

Instead of trying to convince others, one needs to focus instead on building a shared pool of meaning. When we give up trying to convince, we become more convincing.”

Instead of formulating a response to the conversation that one is hearing,

check if people are feeling safe and are not moving to silence or violence. It isn’t whether our perspective is correct, it’s whether our intent is correct.

Ways to restore Safety: • Apologize (if needed)• CRIB (if needed)

• Commit to seek Mutual Purpose• Recognize the purpose behind their action• Invent a Mutual Purpose that’s workable• Brainstorm a solution that serves everyone

Whoa – this is too much

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Conscious of Self

Conscious of Others

Conscious of Context

Effective Communication

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Practice #1 Conversation – fishbowl modeling via TIE coaches

CRUCIAL CONVERSATIONS

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Background Information:

For a significant number of employees at TIE, we have parents or grandparents who are reaching the age where we are starting to question their capabilities to continue driving.

For some of the younger employees, this may not be the case. However, you are working with quite a few of us who are at the retired-rehired status. And because of our age, you might want to carry on this conversation, especially when it comes to our driving at night.

So it’s time to have a Crucial Conversation that lets the person know that it’s time to stop driving.

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Rowe’s plan for observing Crucial Conversations in action:

Viewpoint #1e.g. daughter or son

Viewpoint #1e.g. daughter or son

Viewpoint #2e.g. grandfather

Viewpoint #2e.g. grandfather

TIE Coach

START

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Practice #2 Conversation surprise fishbowl via TIE coaches

Background Information:

A fellow employee’s car broke down and required that it would be in the shop for 4 days. The person asked John Swanson if they could use a TIE car during that time. John granted permission to do so.

Since the person had never experienced driving a four-wheel drive (yep, TIE added a new vehicle to its fleet), the car was taken on some local side roads during this person’s lunch hour.

You receive a call from this person asking you to come out and help them. You are then being asked to support them when this situation is discussed with John Swanson.

So, this conversation starts with your arrival and your initial conversation when this person.

Are their any clarification questions before we start?

CRUCIAL CONVERSATIONS

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The two fish bowl activities lead to the question:

C Content First time a person has done this, so conversation starts “ I noticed that …

P Pattern It’s has occurred before and is becoming a pattern so conversations starts “Your action indicates ...

R Relationship It’s becoming a personal or professional level of trust so conversation starts “I don’t like how it feels …

Am I engaged in the right conversation? That is, which Contextual Parameter (CPR) needs to be

addressed?

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Effective Communication:

SummationHopefully, you gained insights on:

How to bring up the right topic at the right time and did so in the right way with the right motive

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Effective Communication:

SummationKey Concept #1: Ask questions (activate the conscious mind)

Key Concept #2: You create your own emotions (It is the story you tell yourself that creates your emotions)

Key Concept #3: Establish SafetyKey Concept #4: Generate Mutual Purpose & Mutual Respect

This enables us:To bring up the right topic at the right time and did so in the right way with the right motive

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What have I left out that should have been included in this overview?

What questions do you have that can be addressed by our TIE team coaches? (Barb, Colby, Deb, Julie, Lacey, Pam)

Before breaking into our practice groups …

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Group 1 & 4 Sam, a fellow employee, always complains that his hard work and expertise are not being recognized. He works harder and longer than anybody else but receives little recognition and clearly is being underpaid. He wants you to correct such by talking to his boss.

Group 2 & 5 Kevin (who frequently insults you and others) tells you about his fear of intimacy and how he feels this comes from being rejected by his siblings early in his childhood. He is asking you to explain to the team that he is a valuable collaborative player.

Group 3 & 6 Sabrina (a close friend of 10 years) tells you that shefeels like a failure, never having accomplished what she set out to do, or what others thought she should accomplish. She is asking you to recommend her to be hire for a position at TIE .

Talk this Over

Utilizing the information from this book and today’s sharing of such, conduct a conversation via your group. Practice first with your assigned conversation number (and if there’s time select another one.)

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Please go to your designated location and join the members of your group.Decide which two individuals will represent Viewpoint #1 and which two will represent Viewpoint #2.

Continue with your Crucial Conversations as you deem appropriate – but be sure to gain insights from your TIE coach.

Remember, we are just exploring the puzzle pieces of this book – so keep it friendly. Perspective #1

Perspective #2

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1. Sam, a fellow employee, always complains that his hard work and expertise are not being recognized. He works harder and longer than anybody else but receives little recognition and clearly is being underpaid. He wants you to correct such by talking to his boss.

2. Kevin (who frequently insults you and others) tells you about his fear of intimacy and how he feels this comes from being rejected by his siblings early in his childhood. He is asking you to explain to the team that he is a valuable collaborative player.

3. Sabrina (a close friend of 10 years) tells you that she feels like a failure, never having accomplished what she set out to do, or what others thought she should accomplish. She is asking you to recommend her to be hire for a position at TIE .

Please share your group’s experience related to practicing these conversations. How did it go?

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Any final questions or insights?

Did this session help clarify the tools/strategies in this book?

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Note: Jim Parry did a TIE presentation featuring this book and thus would be an excellent resource.

And of course, Jim truly is a role model of a person who incorporates Integrity on a daily basis.

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Is one’s “Integrity” traits visible on a person’s face?

Does a child inherit or possess “Integrity”?

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In Integrity, Dr. Cloud explores the six qualities of character that define integrity.

People with integrity have the ability:-- To connect authentically with others (which leads to trust)

-- To be oriented toward the truth (which leads to finding and operating in reality)

-- To work in a way that gets results and finishes well (can also lose well) (which leads to reaching goals, profits, or the mission)

-- To embrace, engage, and deal with the negative (which leads to ending, resolving, or transforming problems)

-- To be oriented toward growth (which leads to increase)

-- To be transcendent (which leads to the enlargement of the bigger picture and oneself)

"We trust people who we think hear us, understand us, and are able to empathize with our realities as well as their own."

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Integrity. It is more than simple honesty. It's the key to success. Success is not related to only talent or brains. There are a lot of bright, talented people who are never successful. And the most successful are not necessarily the ones with the most talent.

"The ones who succeed in life are the ones who realize that life is largely aboutsolving problems. Thus, a person with integrity has the ability to pull everythingtogether to make it all happen no matter how challenging the circumstances.

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Hard now, Easy later or Easy now, Hard later Key AspectTo face negative things or make difficult decisions is hard. Otherwise everyone would do it. Fixing a marriage, a company, one’s own performance, etc. are all possible and done successfully every day by people of character. But, they know that there is no gain without pain. There is no easy street and no shortcut. We can do the hard work of facing a problem and making the necessary changes to resolve it, and then we will enjoy the easy road of having things right. But the hard comes first and must be endured.

Or we can take the easy route first and avoid fixing a problem. Then, as sure as the sun will come up tomorrow, the hard life will follow. But it will last a lot longer and will be a lot more difficult.

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We can tell a lot about that person from the nature of the “wake." Most Important Aspect

We leave the effects of our interactions (conversations) with people behind (this is our wake).

And no manner what we try to do to: explain why, or to justify what the wake is, it still remains.

Bottom Line: Would they say that their experience with us (our interacting with their lives) has:• left them better off (a positive trusting growing experience where they’re

standing tall) or • left them worst off (one where they’re “bobbing for air, bleeding, or left for

shark bait”)

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Bottom LineFollow the Golden Rule – Treat others with respect, fairness, and dignity as you’d want them to treat you.

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From your perspective and insights, what did I leave out or should have

included?

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Any Questions

Any Questions