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oTarCxeiZe

axaliTargmanebivaxtangWeliZisa

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zaalsamadaSvili

Cemimegobarivaxo

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Temurgabunia

oriinterviu

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darejansumbaZe

`romelisaaTia,klim?~

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ninoqadagiZe

sasaflaosdaraji

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iraklisamsonaZe:

`axalsamyarosqmni~

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edgar limastersi

minervajonsi

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xelis-gulis anabeWdebi

dasasruli

***saTauris qveS sityva `dasasrulis~

wakiTxvisas SvebiT amoisunTqaven isini,vinc am poetur Canawerebs kiTxulobd-nen... am wignis beWdva wlobiT grZelde-boda. es udaod axsovT ̀ literaturuligazeTisa~ da `Cveni mwerlobis~ mkiTx-velebs... Canawerebi axalia, magram Zve-lissZveli saTauri erTgvar moyirWe-bas, uaryofas da siZulvils iwvevs!..mkiTxvels unda gavugoT: unda Sevismi-noT misi gulis bagabugi!.. mkiTxvels si-nanuliT da madlierebiT vemSvidobebi;dRes metapoeziis wre da sarbieli metadgafarTovda: bevri ram SeiZina rogorcwminda poeziidan, iseve prozidan, eseis-tikidan... kmayofilebiT vityvi, rom amsaWoWmano da udaod saintereso liter-aturul procesSi sul mcire wvlilimec Sevitane...

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ai, Cveni siyvaruli _naqiravebi binasaviT uperspeqtivo,romlisTvisac gaRebuli yvela grZnoba,yvela Relva,Tvis dasawyisSi gadaxdili fulis ar iyos,gadayrilia...mxolod imitom,rom icocxlo,cxovreba SeZlo...magram erT dResacmova Cveni binis patroni _viTom berad aRkvecili,locvad damdnarida ZvelbiWuri JargoniT metyvis:brat, ici ra,Cems cxovrebaSi qali gamoCnda,unda gamigo,bina axla Tavad mWirdeba...

fanjarasTan

isev meoTxe sarTulidan gadavixede:TiTqos TviTmkvlelis paraklisi gadavixade:sxva simaRleze mzera ise gadavatare,erTmaneTs ki ar Sevadare: gadavadare,da Cems oreuls, romelic ver gadaviyvare,moRiavebul fanjarasTan gadaveyare:RmerTo, erTxelac, am erTxelac gadamivade,raTa sxeuli fanjridan ar gadamivardes.

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giorgi lobJaniZe

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jarji fxovelivaxtang javaxaZe

Cemi aqlemi

sizmarSi vxedav: aqlemi stovebs aqlemTa jogebs,aqeT modis da odesme Cems karTan daiCoqebs.amboben: meocnebea da Tavs saeWvod aqnevsda misamarTi arasdros ar eSlebao aqlems.Soridan maeWvianebs udabnos peizaJi,Cemi aqlemi gzaSia, Cemi nugeSi _ caSi.oazisidan mokvalavs qviSnaris sanapiros,asi nabijiT CamorCa moqaravane spilos.ra geCqareba, Wirime, cas daelode wmindas,xorSaks eride, fexi ar wamokra piramidas!..

cidan mirCeven: endeo manugeSeblis motivs:modiso, magram Zalian, Zalian nela modis.

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vaxtang WeliZis axali Targmaneb-is gamoqveynebas cxoveli interesiTSeegeba qarTveli mkiTxveli. es bune-brivicaa, vaxtang WeliZe ho nacadimTargmnelia, dajildoebuliasaukeTeso mxatvruli gemovnebiTa, iS-viaTi SromismoyvareobiTa da didi pa-suxismgeblobis grZnobiTa qarTvelimkiTxvelisadmi, qarTuli kultur-isadmi, risTvisac iRvwis Tavgamodeb-iTa da TavdadebiTa.

es axali ambavi ar aris, es ukve cno-bilia da dadasturebulia misi mrava-li TargmaniTa Tu originaluri Semo-qmedebiTa.

da sagulisxmoa, maCablis premiarom Zveli ambavi iyos, ukve `romeo dajulietas~ Targmani aRiniSneboda ampremiiTa; sagulisxmo isicaa, ramden-jerme rom SeiZlebodes erTidaigivepremiis gadacema erTidaigivepirovnebisadmi, mas mere `mefe liris~Targmani daimsaxurebda igive premi-asa, folstafis ciklis piesebic daim-saxurebda, `dakarguli samoTxis~Targmanica, hemingueisa da selinjerisnawarmoebTa Targmanebica, metismetiTu ar iqneboda _ sxva Targmanebicada raRa Tqma unda vaxtang WeliZis mS-venieri monografiac `cxovreba ivanemaCablisa~ aRiniSneboda am premiiTa.

es yvelaferi ganvlili Rvawlia.maCablis premia axlaRa dawesda da

premiis pirobebSi isicaa aRniSnuli,bolo wlebis naSromebi unda wardg-indeso. vaxtang WeliZe mzad aRmoCndaamisTvisaca da sworedac rom bolowlebSi gamoqveynda jon steinbekis`tortila fletisa~, artur mileris`yvela Cemi Sviliasi~ da tenesi uil-iamsis `orfevsi eSveba jojoxeTSis~miseuli Targmanebi da sworedac romam Targmanebma gamoiwvia kidev da kidevcxoveli interesi qarTveli mkiTx-velisa, _ jer mkiTxvelisa, xolomilerisa da uiliamsis dramebiqarTul scenazedac rom ganxor-cieldeba, STabeWdileba imatebs meta-da, ufro metada, radgan piesebi, racunda iyos, TeatrisaTvis iwereba, pie-sis sicocxle Teatri gaxlavT.

vaxtang WeliZis Targmanebi adrecdaidga qarTul scenazeda, _ es iyo`romeo da julieta~, `mefe liri~, _da mayurebeli maSinve moixibla dia-logis agebis xelovnebiTa. aq ar ganv-martav raRa Tqma unda, Seqspiri romaris dialogis sworupovari xelovani,da arc imas movyvebi, TargmanSi romSeiZleba yvelaferi Tavdayira dadg-es, ara, ar movyvebi raRa Tqma unda, mx-olod imas aRvniSnav da mkafiod aRvni-Snav, rom es dramebi, artur milerisa

iqneb mkiTxvels waadgesoTar CxeiZis es mcire recenzia vaxtang WeliZis sam Targmanze _ jon

stainbekis romani ̀ tortila fleti~ da artur milerisa da tenesi uiliamsispiesebi (`yvela Cemi Svilia~ da `orfevsi eSveba jojoxeTSi~) _ saswrafoddaiwereboda rogorc oficialuri wardgineba ivane maCablis premiismosapoveblad.

ramdenime wlis winaT mTargmnelobiTi almanaxi `xomli~, romelsacvaxtang WeliZe redaqtorobda, ganizraxavda am premiis daarsebas, magramalmanaxis gamocema rom Sewydeboda, es Canafiqric CaiSleboda. axla ki, 1978wlis dasawyisSi, mTargmnelobiTi kolegia, oTar nodias TavmjdomareobiT,gamoiCenda Taosnobas da kidec moipovebda am uflebas _ or weliwadSierTxel daerigebinaT didebuli mTargmnelis saxelobis jildo.

debuleba iTvaliswinebda, rom mTargmnels es jildo mieniWeboda arasaerTo damsaxurebisaTvis, aramed _ bolo wlebis namuSevarTaTvis.

vaxtang WeliZes aRmoaCndeboda aseTi nimuSebi, miuxedavad imisa, romimJamad `qarTlis cxovrebis qronikebze~ iyo gadarTuli mTeli arsebiT _misi daumcxrali energia Targmanebsac gawvdeboda, magram daeWvebiT kiSexedavda am moTxovnas, pirovnebis adrindel Rvawls sruliad rom ariTvaliswinebda.

TviT nobelis premias _ aRiarebuls mTels msoflioSi _ aniWebdnenkerZo TxzulebisTvisac da saerTo damsaxurebisTvisac da maCablis premiaviTom ra iyo amisTana, martoden bolo wlebiT rom izRudeboda?

daeWvebis safuZvels isic aZlevda, rom swored imxanad mwvave intrigebiixlarTeboda mis winaaRmdeg _ rogorc mTargmnelisac da rogorc gazeT`literaturuli saqarTvelos~ redaqtorisac, magram vaxtang WeliZe CaSlidaam kampanias da mwaredac azRvevinebda wamomwyebTac da monawileTac, oTarnodiac rom aRmoCndeboda maT Soris, Tumc TavgamodebiT irwmuneboda:uneburad moxda maTTan Cemi dakavSireba, ar vicodi, baton vaxtangs Tuuwyobdnen mzakvrobas, da gamoirkva Tu ara yvelaferi, maSinve gamovecaleo.

asea Tu ise, vaxtang WeliZes moepoveboda premiaze warsadgeni, TanacaraerTi Targmani, da axla saWiro iyo sarekomendacio statia Tu oficialurirecenzia, romlis dawerasac oTar CxeiZes sTxovda da isic samive Targmansrom Seafasebda, bolo wlebis monapovars Cveni mTargmnelobiT xelovnebaSi,

niSandoblivad da saTvalsaCinod ganixilavda tenesi uiliamsis piesas`orfevsi eSveba jojoxeTSi~.

TviTon guls aklda: dro rom mqonoda, ufro safuZvlianadacgavaanalizebdi da Tanac aramarto erTs, aramed samive Txzulebaso, _ magramTavs imiT inugeSebda: sakancelario sabuTad xom ikmarebs da metidaniSnuleba arca aqvso.

cxadia, ase sulac ar aris da es mcire statia TavisTavadi kritikul-esTetikuri Rirebulebisacaa; amitomac ar iyo Casatovebeli mis arqivSi daaucilebladac daisaWiroebs yvela mkvlevari, vinc TargmaniszogadTeoriuli sakiTxebiT dainteresdeba anda uSualod oTar CxeiZisRvawlis Seswavla-warmoCenas moindomebs inglisur-amerikuli literaturiskvleva-Targmanis sferoSi.

da, rasakvirvelia, vaxtang WeliZis mTargmnelobiTi damsaxurebisgaazrebisasac moixmoben, Tumc saamisod upirvelesad gamoiyeneben oTarCxeiZis vrcel da mravalmxriv mniSvnelovan eseis `aRorZineba Seqspirisa~(literaturuli eseebisa da portretebis krebuli ̀ rkali~, 1986), romelSicvaxtang WeliZis literaturuli portreti SesaSuri sizustiTa daSTambeWdaobiTaa gamokveTili.

vaxtang WeliZis is wamieri eWvi Tu Sefiqrianeba ar gamarTldeboda da 8Tebervals ivane maCablis premiis pirvel laureatTa sia romgamoqveyndeboda, maT Soris, misi gvar-saxelic aRibeWdeboda.

...ise rac ginda Tqvi da, kacs klasikuri biografiuli romani hqondesSeqmnili ivane maCabelze, qarTulad aemetyvelebinos uiliam Seqspiris cxra_ TviT maCabelzec meti _ tragedia da komedia, jon miltonis epikuriqmnilebani `dakarguli samoTxe~ da `dabrunebuli samoTxe~ da... ivanemaCablis premias ki tenesi uiliamsis piesisaTvis aniWebdnen!.. oficialuradasea gaformebuli da...

Tumc amas viRa Civis, rodesac SeiZleboda sulac am jildos gareSedaetovebinaT.

ra _ cota viciT amisTana magaliTebi sabWoTa epoqidan Tu... CvenidRevandelobidan movisaklisebT?!.

rostom CxeiZe

axali Targmanebivaxtang WeliZisa

da tenesi uiliamsis dramebi, vaxtangWeliZis xelSi rom gauvliaT, aRvsebu-la qarTuli suliTa, ikiTxeba rogorcqarTuli dramebi, warmogvidgebaqarTul nawarmoebebada, avtorebi romgadaSaloT, moqmed pirebsac romSeucvaloT saxelebi; anTu rao, raSecvla undaT, _ imdeni ucxo saxeliSemosula CvenSi.

vaxtang WeliZis Targmanebigancdilia xelaxlada, xelaxladaagadatanili procesSi Semoqmedebisa,xelaxladaa gadamuSavebuli Tu Seqm-nilia xelaxlada, amitomacaa ase bune-brivi, esoden uSualo, esoden maxlo-beli, amitomacaa, rom uaqcentoa misiTargmanebi, Tavisufalia ucxouri aq-

centebisagana.saamiso magaliTebis motana rom

movindomo, unda gadmoviwero, amSemTxvevaSi, orive drama da romani jonsteinbekisa `tortila fleti~, _ mS-venieri romani, Taviseburi, origi-naluri qmnileba da marTlac mTeliTavisi originalobiT, mTeli TavisiTaviseburebebiT gadmoRebuli qarTu-lada, _ mTlianad unda gadmoviwer-omeTqi da metismeti iqneba raRa Tqmaunda, arc movindomeb raRa Tqma unda,xolo nimuSs mainc warmovadgen, Sedar-ebis nimuSsa, dialogis nimuSsa, san-TliT arc movZebni, racTu xelT momx-vdeba ucabedada, imas warmovadgen, ma-galiTad uiliamsis `orfevsidana~:

oTar CxeiZeoTar CxeiZeoTar CxeiZeoTar CxeiZeoTar CxeiZe Val: … the hauks don’t catch then, don’t seethem up there in the high blue sky near the sun!

Lady: How about in grey weather?Val: They bly so high in grey weather the

goddam hawrs wouls ger dizzy. But those littlebirds, they don’t have no legs at all and they livetheir whole lices on the wing, and sleep on thewind, that’s how they sleep at night, they justspread their wings and go to sleep on the windlike other birds fold their wings and go to sleepon a tree… They speel on the wind and… neverlight on this earth but one time when they du!

Lady: I’d like to be one of those birds.Val: So’d I like to be one of those birds;qarTulad es ase gadmodis:veli: ...qorisaTvis miuwvdomelia _

vera xedavs maRla, caSi, mzis sxivebSimqrolavs.

leidi: Rrublian amindSi?veli: Rrublian amindSi kidev ufro

maRla aiWrebian xolme, wyeul qors iqra unda! fexebi sul ara aqvT am pawawi-na Citebs, mTel sicocxles frTebzeatareben, qarze sZinavT; sxva frin-velebi xom mokecaven xolme frTebs daxeebze moiyuJebian, eseni gaSlian RamiTfrTebs da qaria maTi sawoli, qarzesZinavT. miwaze arc eSvebian _ rocamokvdebian, maSin Camocvivian xolme.

leidi: netavi mec is Citi viyo...veli: mec ramdenjer minatria...da ase Semdeg, anTu Tavidanvec rom

damewyo sulerTia, Targmani Rirseu-ladaa Sesrulebuli, ise Rirseulada,TviT es patara monakveTic, es pataradialogic ukve xasiaTebs gamogvixat-avs.

da saerTod samive es nawarmoebi,samive es axali Targmani vaxtang Wel-iZisa warmogvidgens sami amerikeli mw-erlis TavTavisebur samyaros,TavTavisebur damokidebulebas gare-mosadmi, sazogadoebisadmi, TavTavise-bur socialur-filosofiur msof-lmxedvelobas da mxatvrul-esTetursaxeebsac TavTavisebursa. ase gansx-vavebulia misi midgoma saTargmnimasalisa Tu avtorisadmi da WeSmari-ti mTargmnel-xelovanis Tvisebac esgaxlavT.

amitomacaa, rom jon steinbekis`tortila fleti~, artur mileris`yvela Cemi Svilia~ da tenesi uiliam-sis `orfevsi eSveba jojoxeTSi~ vax-tang WeliZiseuli Targmanebi CaiTv-leba umniSvnelovanes miRwevaT qarTu-li mTargmnelobiTi literaturisa daRirsia aRiniSnos im didi saxeliTa, masrom mohyveba SemoqmedebiTi cxovreb-is gariJraJidanve, _ ivane maCablissaxeliTa, maCablis saxelobis premii-Ta.

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daebadeboda raime idea Cem me-gobar vaxos, aRwerda detalurad dametyoda _ aba, ifiqre amaze... rac imasniSnavda, rom madlieri damrCeboda,Tuki mosmenils gavaanalizebdi da Se-Zlebisdagvarad mokle xanSi sakuTarmosazrebebs gavuziarebdi...

ase moxda ramdenime Tvis winac...ifiqre amazeo, miTxra aTasi wvrilman-iT gadavsebul Zvelebur, gverdebzerikulebSemovlebul sawer magidasTanmjdomma da Camocurebuli saTvalesaCvenebeli TiTiT aiwia Sublisken...

manamde ki, saqarTvelos damo-ukideblobis TiTqmis meoTxedsauku-novani periodi kinematografiuladdaaxasiaTa. oTxad gahyo es dro da Ti-Toeuli monakveTs Tavisi saxeli daar-qva. pirveli monakveTi _ munji kino,meore _ Sav-TeTri kinematografi, me-same _ samxreTamerikuli seriali dameoTxe _ pedro almodovaris Semo-qmedeba...

movusmine, gavuRime da, Cveulebi-samebr, maxvilgonivruloba Sevuqe.

sxva dros, roca saxelmwifo jil-doebis _ ordenebisa da medlebis sak-

bac; qveynis damoukideblobisTvis me-brZolebi sapatimroebSi isxdnen, yo-fili sabWoTa Cinovnikebi maRal Tan-amdebobebs ubrundebodnen, erTni Sim-Silobdnen, meoreni dietebiT ebrZod-nen zedmet wonas, viRac metroSi verCadioda oci TeTris uqonlobis gamoda fexiT milaslasebda qalaqis erTibolodan meoresken, viRac ki, ramden-ime aTeul aTas dolarad RirebulvagonebiviT „jipebs~ daajiriTebdamouvlelobiTa da qar-wvimiT gaver-anebul, oRro-CoRro quCebze. ucxoTvali xedavda Seuwynareblobas, sisas-tikes, gaucxoebas saarsebo garemosmimarT da Tavzars scemda imis warmod-genac ki, rom aseTi ram mis samSob-loSic xdeboda Zalian didi, an ubral-od, didi xnis winaT...

rac Seexeba samxreTamerikul seri-alebs, egreT wodebul „sapnis op-erebs~, iq ferebi uxvadaa, garemo ise-Ti damTrgunveli ar aris, rogorc Sav-TeTr, dokumenturTan miaxloebul ki-noSi, magram mayurebeli amCnevs, rombevri ram miCqmalulia, mTavari gmire-bi iolad imarjveben borotebaze, rom-

CaCiT...Tavad vaxo rom gavicani, iseTi Seg-

rZneba dameufla, rogoric bavSvoba-Si, roca didi biWisgan yuradRebas dakeTilganwyobas vigrZnobdi, TanaciseTisgan, vis gverdiT yofna dasaubari did pativad mimaCnda...

mTeli cxovreba Cemze ufros xalx-Tan vmegobrob da maTTan arc adremqonia da arc axla maqvs xSiri _yoveldRiuri, an yovelkvireuli urT-ierToba; xandaxan Tveebi gadis da erT-maneTs ver vnaxulobT, Tumca, sami, anoTxi Tvis Tavze rom SevxvdebiT, gvgo-nia, wina dRes Sewyvetil saubars vagr-ZelebT da sasmelic guSin nayidi boT-lidan unda CamovisxaT WiqebSi...samocdaaT wels gadacilebuli kace-bi dResac biWebiviT arian _ cno-biswadiliT Sepyrobilebi, daudegare-bi, axal-axali gatacebebisTvis mudmi-vad mzadmyofebi...

vaxoc aseTi iyo. is sul axlaxans,maisis TveSi gardaicvala... bolomdever Sevasrule misi davaleba, veRarmovaswari momeTxro, rogor warmov-idgine uaxlesi istoriis miseuliklasifikacia, veRar movismine SeniS-vnebi, romlebic aucileblad eqnebo-da da Tanac mravlad... uimedod mom-enatreba saubrebi mis saxelosnoSi,misi leqciismagvari monologebi vinmoTvlis, raRaze ara da, ra Tqma unda,xrinwgareuli xmiT warmoTqmuli,TiTqmis yvela monologis damagvir-gvinebeli fraza _ aba, ifiqre amaze...

haSekTan dakunderasTan

erTad...ocdaori ivnisis astrologiuri

prognozi „sasworebisTvis~: „axlob-lisgan saidumlo informacias moipov-ebT, rac Tqvens Sexedulebebs kardi-nalurad Secvlis~.

hrabalis kiTxva ocdaorSi davas-rule. davxure Tu ara wigni, vigrZeni,rom haSekTan da kunderasTan erTadkidev erTi megobari SeviZine Cex mwer-lebs Soris. saidumlo informaciisSesaxeb _ aRmoCnda, rom is, rac me am-ovikiTxe romanSi „vemsaxurebodi in-glisis mefes~, zogierTma ver amoi-kiTxa, an wakiTxuli ver gaSifra.safuZvelic maqvs amis Tqmisa, radganim auditoriaSi vijeqi, romlis winaSecerTma mwignobarma da friad dakvirve-bulma kacma ganacxada _ hrabalis

gasaidumloebuli darCa is, racCemTvis sruliad naTlad warmoCnda...

bohumil hrabali magari mTxrobe-lia, egreT wodebul „pabiteli~; es si-tyva neologizmia da enis dauRleladmoratrate, namdvil da gamogonil am-bebis erTmaneTSi aRmrev, Cveulebriv,arafriT gamorCeuli faqtebis uki-duresad gamzviadebel personas aRw-ers. Znelia, cdunebas gauZlo da ax-ladwakiTxuli romanidan „pabitelo-bis~ erTi-meoreze ukeTesi nimuSebi arCamoTvalo. CamosaTvleli, icocxle,blomad aris, magram me is ambebi da su-raTebi minda Camovawikwiko, cxovreb-is bolomde Tu ara, didxans, Zaliandidxans rom SemorCeba Cem gada-tvirTul mexsierebas...

pirveli is ambavi gaxlavT, restor-nis stumari, lamazi, qeraTmiani kaxpagogo Jolos grenadins jer Tavze romgadaivlebs da mere dekolteSi romCaisxams romanis mTavari gmiris _cerodena ian dites, imJamad pikolikis(umcrosi oficiantis) gamosasarCle-blad da quCaSi gasuls futkrebi dakrazanebi rom daesevian, rogorcyvavils...

meore ambavi praRaSi xdeba, sastum-ro „parizSi~, sadac eTiopiis impera-tori haile selasie pirveli sazeimosadils marTavs da oqros dana-Can-gliT gawyobil sufrasTan miwveul ma-Rali rangis stumrebs arabul-afriku-li kerZebiT umaspinZldeba; mTavarikerZi Semwvari aqlemia, aqlemSi _cecxlze Sebrawuli antilopa, anti-lopaSi _ indaurebi, indaurebSi ki,Tevzi da moxarSuli kvercxis rgole-bi; am kulinariuli saocrebis gasin-jvisa da dagemovnebis procesSi erT-erTi Cexi didmoxele netarebisagankvnesis, yviris da cota xanSi, ra ucn-auradac unda mogeCvenoT, dilis gam-amxnevebeli varjiSis msgavsmoZraobebs iwyebs xelebiT da fexebiT...

aranakleb STambeWdavia mTavarigmiris bavSvobis droindeli mogoneba_ bebiasTan erTad wylis wisqviliszeda nawilSi rom cxovrobda da yo-CaRi dedaberi uCveuloze uCveulosaqmianobiT rom moipovebda lukma-puris fuls... gverdiT mdebare „kar-losis abanoebis~ sarkmelebidan gamos-rolil WuWyian sacvlebs rom agroveb-da, recxavda da hyidda... haerSi afri-alebul zeda da qveda sacvlebs grZe-li kauWiT rom iTrevda fanjaraSigadakidebuli da SviliSvili romuWerda fexebs, raTa ar gadavardnil-iyo...

steinbeksac gadavawydebiT Txroba-

dasasruli me-5 gverdze

Cemi megobari vaxo

uTar eskizebs maCvenebda, anda deda-qalaqis ratuSis win magnoliebisdargvasa da gaxarebaze mesaubrebodada Cem dainteresebasac cdilobda, asear davqoqilvar. gonebaSi kargad Cav-ibeWde es daxasiaTebebi da dRe ar gami-levia ise, rom sul cota, oci-ocdax-uTi wuTi ar dameTmo ganmartebebisZiebisTvis.

bevri vifiqre Tu cota, mivxvdi,rom TavisTvis Zala unda dametanebinada uaxlesi istoriisTvis gareSedamkvirveblis, miukerZoebeli mayure-blis TvaliT gadamexeda...

munji kino qmedebebzea agebuli, ek-ranidan sityva ar ismis; ras ganicdis,ra unda da ras apirebs esa Tu is per-sonaJi, saxis gamometyvelebiT, Jes-tikulaciiT, moZraobiT unda mivxv-deT. Cveni damoukideblobis pirveliperiodi _ TiTqmis uwyveti manifest-aciebis, jgufuri Setakebebis, Seiar-aRebuli gadatrialebis, samoqalaqoda samamulo omebis xana, savaraudodmunj kinosaviT aRiqmeboda garesam-yaros mier. moCanda zRvasaviT atort-manebuli xalxis masa, droSebi,transparantebi, haerSi aRmarTulimuStebi, cekva, cremlebiT savse Tvale-bi, trasirebuli tyviebis ugrZesizolebi Rameul caze, gverdebSeW-yletili tankebi qalaqebis quCebSi,fanjrebgamomwvari saxlebi... dagamocdil, mravlismnaxvel may-urebelsac gauWirdeboda imis amoc-noba, Tu ra mizans emsaxureboda esa Tuis qmedeba, risken miiswrafodnen per-sonaJebi.

munji kino Sav-TeTrma Caanacvla,gaCnda sityvac, TiTqos gaioldaamocana aRqmisa da ganzraxvaTa amoc-nobis TvalsazrisiT; magram kon-trastulobis moTxovnilebam, SeuZle-blobam Tu uaris Tqmam sxva ferebisgamoyenebaze, Savisa da TeTris garda,kvlav ZalaSi datova sirTule.mkveTrad kontrastuli iyo politi-kosebis ritorikac da Tavad cxovre-

lis damarcxebac gacilebiT Znelia daarcTu iSviaTad SeuZlebelic ki re-alur cxovrebaSi...

hoda, asparezze gamodis realoba...usworeb mas Tvals da irkveva, rom ok-upaciis muzeums ver gauqria stalini-sken da zogadad, yovlisSemZle, moZa-lade beladebisken ltolva, rom uni-versaluri, sakacobrio Rirebulebe-bis pativiscema bolomde gauazrebe-li, yasidad deklarirebuli ganacxa-di ufroa, vidre mizani, romlis mis-aRwevadac uars ityvi iseT uRirssaqcielze, rogoric kolaboracion-izmi, dampyrobelTan TanamSromlobaa.almodovarTanac xom asea _ CacdebiTu ara zedapirs, gaarRvev Tu aragarss, xilulisgan gansxvavebul, sa-pirispiro samyaroSi amoyof Tavs dadainaxav, ras amoZravebs adamians _kacs Tu qals, mdidars Tu glaxaks, go-niers Tu briyvs, Zliers Tu umweos...

* * *adamianebs Soris urTierToba sx-

vadasxvanairad myardeba da sxvadasx-vanairadve viTardeba. Sinagani siax-love vaxos, mxatvar vaxtang ruruasmimarT jer kidev maSin gamiCnda, rocamis mier gaformebuli wignebidafurcvlamde vikiTxe da teqstTanerTad misma ilustraciebmac Semiqmnawarmodgena avtorebze, romelTa sam-yaroebic rbil Tu magarydian,mravalgverdian Tu Txel gamocemebSiiyo moqceuli...

blez paskalis „azrebis~ kiTxvisasTvalwin medga fermkrTali axalgazr-da kaci maRali SubliTa da metyveliTvalebiT, romelsac grZeli, datal-Ruli Tma Savi kamzolis did, TeTrsayelomde wvdeboda. guram doCanaSvi-lis „samosel pirvels~ ki, moxetialecirkis jambaziviT orsaxovani, xan mx-iaruli da xan naRvliani niRbiT aR-Wurvili kaci miyveboda, xelSi Zafga-mobmuli buStiTa da Tavze konusise-buri, feradi rombebiT aWrelebuli

romani Tavgadasavalia pirovnebisa,romelic gamdidrebasa da mdidrebiswreSi trials eswrafvis, visacaraferi ainteresebs fulis dagrove-bisa da qalebis dauflebis garda, vincnaloliaveb ocnebas ver isrulebs, verxvdeba egreT wodebul „maRal sazoga-doebaSi~ da ubrundeba martoobas,romelsac mTeli cxovreba gaurboda...anu am adamianma Tvalwin gadaSlilteqstSi ver dainaxa is, ramac me SemZrada momxibla, misTvis aRmouCeneli da

Si, gemis kapitans, an sulac flibusti-eris garegnobis mqone amerikel mwer-als, romelic ukve gamdidrebul iandites aTeul aTasobiT dolars sTava-zobs mis kuTvnil sastumro „qvis sam-texlos~ safasurad. CexeTSi stumradmyofi dites sastumroSia Camomxtarida dReSi orjer TiTo-TiTo boTlfrangul koniaks nTqavs Ria cis qveS,gauqmebuli karieris win sagangebod

zaal samadaSvili

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* * *axla Cvens Soris, simarTle giTxra,bevrma iswavla saflavis gaTxra.erTic CaliCobs da, rogorc miTxres,Zalian Rrmas da komfortuls miTxris,da, roca mova Jami damarxvis,miwaze adre – cremlebs damayris.

neo

adideben axal noes, umRerian neo-noes:neo-aranJirebani gaafortepianoes.vinc mgzavruli wamoiwyo, imas misca noem bani,saT-noe-biT Caanacvla neo-urwmu-noe-bani.aaSena neo-noem neo-noes kidobani:kargi icis neo-noem gidoba da gidobani:mtredic hyavs da yoranic hyavs, eqimic da eqimbaSic:wuTebsa da wamebs iTvlis molodinis ekipaJi.moelian axal-axals, ese igi neo-neos,raTa – gadarCenilebi – Seadaron noe noes.zRvaSi veRar daeteva saokeaneo neo,iqneb taitelma frangma dauxatos `noa noa~?!esec neo-niusia, anu neo-arakia:am molodins – warRvnis meti – araferi ar aklia.

zebra

bras mirCevnia ze-bra,cxens mirCevnia zebra.

aRarasdros aRar davizafrebi:damixazes, damixates zebrebi.

gadaurCa wiTel wigns dagaiara Savi siada Sav-TeTri rema-jogi dedaqalaqs Seesia.

gaeridnen aTas urCs da aTas xepres:alag-alag Cemi quCac gadazebres.

aRarc zooparkSi waval,verc menave – afris kaci –gamityuebs afrikaSi.

zolebis aplikacia,zonebis fabrikacia –gvazRvevs, amaTi savane sfinqsebis afrikaSia.

mec mazRvevs da WrelaWrula sxva ar damixsomebia,Cemi momwons, Cemsas vaqeb trafaretebs zolebians.

verasodes gamasaxlebs am quCidan alergia:alag – TeTri, alag – Savi alag-alag alagia.

TandaTan mravldebian da TandaTan meordebianda gareT Cemi zebrebi melian-melodebian.

vesalmebi da vuRimi yoveldRe pirgabadruli,gverds verasodes avuvli: gamibrazdeba patruli.

ise vCqarob, TiTqos damrCa oriode wamiRa daise mixaria, TiTqos firosmanma damixata.

sebro! sebro!yvelaferi mevaseba zebrisebri,zebrebs – Cemi prizebi da zeprizebi!

mivdivar da quCa-quCa, qalaq-qalaqmivimReri: genacvaleT alag-alag!

* * *me guruli miyvars oda,aq Cemi gza modioda,maxsovs bevri korCiotada iebi cota-cota.aqes qoxi mdabioTa,mec wamomcda odis oda:aq odesme TerTmeti wlisdedaCemi cremlooda.

isev van gogi

Cvenc Cveni kerpi gvafrTxilebskerpebis verandebidan,

Cven Cveni dabalansebis imijebs vemsaxurebiT:aqeT yurmoWril nagazebs gzadagza veridebiT daiqiT spiloebs vamxnevebT: ar CamoyaroT yurebi!amaod: yvela memkvidre Tavis Wkuaze dagvidis,yurebze xaxvi dagvaWres: narCenebs TviTon dagviTo,cirkebi ise dagvidges, rogorc kvantebi dagvides,yurumsaRebma dagvigdes, yuri aravin dagvigdo.yuri ar gaabartyunes da aRarc gamoibertyes,demoni – demons, satana satanas gadaekona,Worebi ise momravldnen, rogorc eWvebma ibartyes:mxatvarma yuri dagvigdo da Cven mstovari gvegona.

* * *Tu valuta giWyavis, dagaze da basta! _oligarqebs – lamazebs – nuRar daeWyanebi,Sexe: auqcionze rogor gadafasdakleopatras qoSebi da van gogis jRanebi.

stalini, stalinma, stalins

stalinma akrZala zarebi da mezareebi,stalins waeSvelen meoreebi da mesameebi.zarebi ara aqvTo ebraelebs,magram ebraels ebraeli ebraleba.zarebi ara aqvTo mahmadianebs,magram maTi Carxi waRma trialebs.stalinma gadaadno zarebi da gaparsa mezareebi,stalini ara marto amis gamo mezareba.

ka-ke-ki-ko-ku

stalins moukvda keke,Tbiliss moukvda kika,samarTals eZebs kako,mamismkvlels eZebs koko,akakis erqva kaki,tuzma dairqva kiko,Selis Targmnida koki,milans gaeqca kaka,zRvaze daberda kuki,

wyaroze gatyda koka,tyidan moismis `kuku~:

gori gasZaxis zedazens:_ Sen ar moukvdi dedaSens!

kika

mtkvarma daiklo, dolarmac: gaocda amerika!gaunawyenda kazinos pokeristebis liga.quCebma moisaklises wyvilebis romantika:avTandili da avTo da TinaTini da Tika.ver ganasxvava Tamadam belzebeli da Winka,naxevrad carieli da naxevrad savse Wiqa.qalaqma danaklisebis aRricxa dinamika:sufras marili daaklda, Tbiliss daaklda kika.Soridan aprotesteben Sedegs mcxeTa da Zegvida Tbiliss – kika ki ara – aklia kikas Zegli.

paata

cxovreba vinicobaa dajamia vinicobaaTa:ufali kamaTels agorebsda pasuxs moiTxovs paata.Tvalebs ver vaSorebT monitors:kiTxvebi pasuxebs Svelianda pasuxs romelic moiTxovs, –vaJas da nikalas Svelia.ratomo, ratomo, ratomo? –sad daemalebi ratomebs:migiwvevs samediatoroda verki gagaoratorebs.cxovreba abelobaa dacxovreba kaenobaa daxan – qriste, xan barabaa daxan siqstes saocrebaa daxan Wabukianis paa daxan faliaSvilis faa daxan bagrationTa baa daaqeT saakaZis spaa daiqiT bazaleTis tbaa daarakis vinicobaa da –zvaraki vinicobaaTa –pasuxs elodeba paata.

* * *uzenaesma dedamiwa gamogviyo,arsTa gamrigem iberia gamogviyo,iesom edemis kari gamogviRo,Wrilobidan isari gamogviRoda, rac gviyo, Secodebisa gamo gviyo.ainStainma ki atomi gamogviyoda enac gamogviyo.

`Cveni dro isev rusTavels elis~ galaktioni

dResac, RmerTo maRalo,saswaulebs elian...Sesdeq, abortmaxero:iqneb rusTavelia?!

nikalas

avgarozma giTilisma,Svidi dagimSvida Sveli,iyav Svili sikvdilisa,xar sikvdilis SvilTaSvili.

bedis varskvlavi

ca cisferi brZandeba da veferebi,vaqeb, magram verki gamovekerebi.cas vaqebT da gvixaria, maxaria,magram ze-ca caze ufro maRalia.cas dakargav, Tu miwaze daewebe,netarebi ufro maRla daeZeben.iq macTuri miraJi da eweriada maRlebi ufro dabla ecemian.maxaria, me – kvesi da Sen – abedi! _Cven am cas da erTmaneTebs SevaberdiT.im Soreul – eklebian-vardebian –wreSi Cveni varskvlavebic brZandebian.

* * *sxva kerpebi hyavT axal Taobebs:gemovnebaze aRar daoben.kompiuteris xanis xarisxmagaaTamama maTi xarizma:

vaxtang javaxaZe

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haSekTan dakunderasTan erTad...

misTvis gamotanil magidasTan mj-dari...

manamde meore msoflio omi da Cex-eTis okupaciis ambebia... lizas vecno-biT, fizkulturis maswavlebel ger-manel qals, romelic omamdeli paem-nebis giJur vnebianobas TandaTan kar-gavs da nacisturi propagandiT mowam-luli, vagneris firfitebs usmens qmar-Tan dawolamde. diadi mizaniamoZravebs _ Rirseuli STamomavlis,namdvili arielis Casaxva...

bolos ki, esTetikisa da franguliliteraturis calTvala profesori,romelic masaviT iZulebiT dasaqmebullamaz, magram ubir gogo marcelas daaranakleb ubir yofil milionersfolosofiasa da poeziaze esaubreba;tyis Wridan dabrunebulebs leqsebsukiTxavs da irwmuneba, rom „adamianebsSoris ukeTesia is, vinc ukeTesad ax-erxebs yvelafris gamoTqmas~...

axla isic unda vTqva, vis Sesaxebaris es wigni, esoden mdidari aramar-

to Rrma da maxvilgonivruliazrovnebis nimuSebiT, aramed vi-zualurad, ferwerulad saintereso,STambeWdavi epizodebiT. „vemsaxure-bodi inglisis mefes~ marTlac milion-erobis mosurne da qalebis moyvarulkaczea _ ian diteze, romelic sulTavidan moxarSul sosisebs daarbe-ninebs gasayidad rkinigzis sadgurisbaqanze; mere da mere win miiwevs, sulufro da ufro ukeTes sastumroebSiemsaxureba erTi-meoreze ucnaurklientebs, kargi momsaxurebisaTvisTviT eTiopiis imperatorisgan iRebsjildos _ cisferlentian ordens;qalebs moswonT, umetesad lamaz kax-pebs, Tumca, sxvanairic gamoCndeba,fizkulturis maswavlebeli liza, ger-maneli gogo, vis gamoc kolabora-

cionisti xdeba uneblied; isjebaamisTvis, Tanac Zalian sastikad, ma-gram milioneri mainc xdeba; cota xniTtkbeba simdidriT, radgan morigi saok-upacio reJimi, amjerad komunisturi,qonebas arTmevs da „iZulebiT sam-uSaoebze~ amwesebs; sakuTar Tavsswored iq, miyruebul da ukacrieladgilas, srul martoobaSi poulobs_ soflisaken mimavali gzis moxreS-viTa da namqerebisgan gawmendiTdakavebuli; rac mTavaria, xedavs darwmundeba, rom sxvebisTvis, sxva adami-anebisTvis aris saWiro da Tanac ise,rogorc arasdros, mTeli ganvlilicxovrebis manZilze...

kargi mwerlebis umetesobis ms-gavsad bohumil hrabals daleva hy-varebia. erT-erT fotoze is ludxana-

Si zis, savaraudod mis sayvarel„oqros vefxvSi~ _ sqlad naqsov pulo-versa da yelze momdgar maisurSigamowyobils win savse kaTxa udgas dagamometyvelebiTa da JestikulaciiTTu vimsjelebT, raRac Zalian mx-iaruls hyveba; Tumca, arc is unda gam-ovricxoT, rom xelis qneviT, odnavmoWutuli TvalebiTa da tuCebze aTa-maSebuli RimiliT sevdiani ambis moy-olac SeiZleba, iseTi sevdianis da su-lisSemZvrelis, rogoric „vemsaxure-bodi inglisis mefes~ aris...

* * *rac Seexeba astrologiur prog-

nozSi nawinaswarmetyveleb „Sexedule-bebis Secvlas~, vfiqrob da albaTdameTanxmebiT, rom yoveli axlad wak-iTxuli, ra Tqma unda Zalian kargi wig-ni, garkveul, arcTu umniSvnelo cv-lilebebs iwvevs movlenebis Cveneul,ukve Camoyalibebul aRqmasa da maTgaanalizebaSi...

dasasruli zaal samadaSvili

gemovnebaze aRar daoben,miliardebze dablataoben.Sen ki, yoveldRe rom ar idao,dagimZimdeba qva sajildaoda Crdilic aRar dagemoneba,Tu ver moaswre dagemovneba.

xilTa qeba

uceb afeTqda atami, nuSma daaswro aluCas,bali alubals CamorCa, vaSls kargi piri ar uCans.Werami wamogewia, unabo, nu SeSindebi,komSebma waiforxiles, dawinaurdnen Sindebi.kaklebma moigeries qarebi saxifaToni,kvlav tyeSi pantas daeZebs TuraSaulis patroni.wablebma Tavi daxares muxebTan, rogorc mogvebTan,papis naWamma tyemalma kbili SviliSvils mokveTa.vazma askili aZaga, TuTam gakicxa anCari,da, Tumca emuqreboda broweulebis xanZarida umowyalod arxevda akaciebis niavi, –damwifda, daibinda da gamoqliavda qliavi.

Ca-Ca-Ca

Cum-Cumad rom CaaCoCes, mxolod mxrebi aiCeCa,xeli ar gaunZrevia, mxolod mxrebi aiCeCa,sityvac ar wamoscdenia, mxolod mxrebi aiCeCa,CoCori rom dauxates, CarCoSi rom Cauxatesda CerCeta CarCebma rom CiCilakTan aCaliCesda CanCura CiCeronem CeCneTisken miabrunada ConCxebis CaCaCa da lambada rom moelanda, –RmerTi, rjuli! _ mxolod mxrebi,

mxolod mxrebi aiCeCa.

Semodgomis motivebidan

mamri dgas da mamris Crdili modis,mdedri dgas da mdedris Crdili midisda landebis saziaro modelsaTamamebs vneba micemiTis.moweuli Semodgoma cdilobs,mogvasaRos eqvsi eqstra feri,xolo Caskvnil-Cawyvilebul CrdilebsveRar TiSavs vnebis seqstemberi.

* * *erTsac getyvi savalalo-saseiros:rusTavelze aRaravin daseirnobs.Ceroebi lagdebian ujredebad,aRaravin aRaravis uCerdeba.arvin cdilobs, aqve xnas da aqve Tesos,lamis SoTac Camoxdes da agveTesos.iq ki, sadac yanwelebis sardafia,larebidan dolarebze gadarbian.gadarbian reklama da aTi nuli,firosmanis abrebs utevs laTinuri.Srialeben xeni samaradisoni,aRa-mahmad-xaniviT dgas `redisoni~.dgas qaSveTic, axarisxebs ritualebs,yvela garbis, visRa daaretianebs.garbis, rogorc pele anu maradona,ucnobebis gamziri da maraToni.miaCqarebs wami Sin da wami gareT,mec Tqveni var: wamiyvaneT!

* * *gariska kacobriobam da suli eSmaks mihyida:SeZvra da veRar gamoZvra kompiuteris cixidan.ver moigera virusi, ver moixada saxadi,Caaqro peizaJi da gamorTo gadasaxedi.televizoric gaTiSa, wignebic daayadaRa,Zmakacebs daekarga da Zmasac... magram jer sada xar?laSqari mesijebisa – esemesebis mxedrions –alaiTebs da aZalebs – wavides, gadaeTrios.Tvalebis tiraJebi ki monitors miwebebiada interpolis saitze amaod iZebnebian.

* * *gedebs Tvali mohkari dadagaviwya gedma sneba,yvelam piri mogarida,axla yvela getmasneba.ver mogvarda mogvareTaSezaveba erT arsebadda, vinc Tvali mogarida,swored igi getmasneba.ai fotoc: gulxaTriansalbaT gulma gikarnaxa:

TiTqos ZaliT migaTries:iqa xar da iq ara xar.dro yvelafers ajerovnebs,kargad icis mowilemac:uyvarT miqelanjeloebszedmetebis mocileba.

dueli

romeliRac romelimeromeliRac romelsamegaubrazda:_ uRimilodguSin ratom momesalme?iman:_ bevrjer gamiRime,bevr sixaruls damaswari,magram guSin eg salamityviasaviT damaswari.xvalidan ki eg salami,Se Zvelo da ar-axalo,aRarasdros damaswro daaRarasdros damaxalo.

mixas fanjara

miqelanjelos memkvidres verasdros ver daviviwyeb:kapelasaviT moxata oTaxi mixa qvliviZem.ufalo, vinsent van gogis STamomavalic daloce:wiTel-yviTeli fanjara ayvirda saburTalozeda axla aleqsandriis SuqurasaviT daeZebsimas, romelic daeca, an _ SeiZleba daeces.gamoiRviZa kvartalma asebis aslamaziviTda gamofxizlda erTbaSad monotonuri masivi:adgilis deda davloceT koniakiT da sakeTi:erToTaxian samoTxes ar daedeba saketi.aseTi gaxlavT ganzraxva martoka mobinadresi:dReidan arcerT madonas ar SeeSleba adresi.Cemi morCili TariRic aq unda gadamixadoda werilebic gavcvaloT, Cemo mixa da mixako.ramdenic ginda dalie da baxuss niSni miage,sakuTar saxls da fanjaras aucileblad miagneb.

a! i!

a-nTologia i-nicialebisa

WavWavaZe a!WavWavaZe i!wereTeli a!evdoSvili i!

abaSeli a!griSaSvili i!maSaSvili a!mosaSvili i!

kalandaZe a!abaSiZe i!sajaia a!noneSvili i!

WilaZe o?

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* * *rao? virwmunoT, rom goneba

azrovnebis antipodia da TandaTansZiravs, TandaTan akninebs da aCiavebsmas!..

* * *maSin SoTa CantlaZem miTxra: xom

asea fSauri warmodgeniT, rom yovelsaxls, yovel Senobas fuZis angeloziicavs... ho, asea, – vupasuxe me... maS, ce-kas Senobasac Tavisi fuZis angelozihyavs da is icavs am satanebis budes?!.ara, ara, – vuTxari me, _ maincdamaincangelozs nu davarqmevT, xolo eg sa-tanebi TviTonac kargad icaven!..

* * *gekiTxebi: ra ferisaa sevda? pasuxi

ara gaqvs!

* * *`abragis simRera~: Sedevri gabriel

jabuSanuris. Zvel gamocemebSi amleqss erqva `abragis natvra~. orivesaTauri misaRebi da kargia... mTelRilRuri leqsebis cikls gasdevs didisiyvarulis anarekli: poets mZafraduyvarda RilRo da mezobeli Ril-Rvelebic...

* * *atomuri omis mojadoebuli wre: am

wris nawilia atomuri TavdasxmiT mu-qara... am muqaris eSinia imas, vinc es mo-jadoebuli wre ver igrZno, ver dain-axa, ver gaisigrZegana. da TviT es Si-Sic amaoa... ufro saSiSi ki Cveulebrivi,uatomo omia: viRac imarjvebs, viRacmarcxdeba da, vinc marcxdeba, vai imi-si brali!.. xolo atomebiT bzrials dasamyaroSi sicocxlis anulirebas Senaravin ar dagaclis, Se marTlac y-o!hoda, gind atomuri bombi gqonia dagind Surduli: sulerTi ramaa!.. WeS-mariti sityva Tqva didma amerikelmapoetma, man amerikas uTxra: ukangaikeTe Seni atomuri bombi! es Sencgexeba, araamerikeli rom xar da atom-uri bombi rom gidevs seifSi. Senc ukangaikeTe: Seiyanyale eg nukliarulifalosi!

* * *esec moxda: Cven vixileT poeziis

gaucxoeba. exla poezias TiTqmis aRarkiTxuloben: ar kiTxuloben didirusTavelis ukvdav poemas, ar kiTxu-loben vaJa-fSavelas Sedevrebs da aseSemdeg... Sen ki esec gagkvirvebia, Senswigns rom ar kiTxuloben!.. da kvlavggonia, rom poezia Seucvlelia sulisgadarCenis gzaze... xolo suls rogorgadaarCen, Tu wamals ar eziarebi?.. arminda sulis gadarCena, fiqrobs uwig-nuri obivateli, me fuli ufro minda!..magram fuls vin mogaSavebs, roca su-lic gageqca, Se ubeduro! eh, Seayarekedels cercvi...

* * *ratom vardebi panikaSi siberis

gamo? nuTu imitom, sikvdili ukve ax-los rom aris!.. magram sikvdili aras-dros Sors ar yofila: axalgazrdobisJamsac axlos iyo, Semdgomac axlosiyo, da sibereSic axlos aris! CvensSoris rom iyos didi SoTa CantlaZe,isic imaves getyoda, rasac me geubne-bi: aitane sibere! aitane sibere!..

* * *ZvelisZveli nawyenebi: gulze gve-

lis nakbenebiviT...

* * *leqsikonis wre: maRariCi raRa

aris?.. tombaxi!.. tombaxi raRa aris?wavideT win: tombaxi aris maRariCi!

* * *ase davarqvi: `sulaxali leqsebi~.

sulkalmaxis STabeWdileba rCebao,Tqvens redaqciaSi... vambob: arc es iqne-ba urigo: sulkalmaxi leqsebi...

jarji fxoveli

xelis-gulis anabeWdebi

* * *sokrates uTqvams: me brZeni var, amas

vgrZnob da vici, magram me isic vici,rom Cemi sibrZne arafrad ara Rirs!..es Tavmdabluri, magram didi guliTnaTqvami, sxva variaciiT gaimeorameoce saukuneSi sokrates alikvalmadidma xorxe borxesma: me var aravin, mevar arara, amas vRaRadeb mTeli sic-ocxle!..

* * *riTmiT nawvalebi leqsi! maS, ukv-

davi `vefxistyaosani~ raRaa? mokledgetyvi: geniosebi arc riTmiT da arcuriTmod leqss ar awvaleben! da esaris poeziis ueWveli bedniereba!

* * *ase ambobdnen: mokvda SesaniSnavi

swavluli, enaTmecnieri, gurmani, su-fris kaci, WeSmariti xevsuri... me amasdavamateb: mokvda folkloris geniaaleqsi WinWarauli!

* * *mao: pirwavardnili plagiatori!

politikaSi is baZavda ioseb stalins,xolo leqsSi – tanis poetebs!

* * *niko samadaSvili. dabejiTebiT vam-

bobT: didi poeti! is prozaSic didiiyo! ai, rogor xatavs erTerTglexkacs: `glexkaci Sin dacemul xamixaris tyavidan amosxmul Wvintmogr-exili qalamnebiT, SemofleTili maz-ariT, gacrecili nabdis qudiT, xelis-gulze msxvili beberebi rom dakoJre-boda, ceris saxsarSi da nonebSi jafisofli rom Cakvdomoda, uxeiroT gabar-jRnuli wver-ulvaSiT, laRe paWiWispaWanagidan amoCrili SarvlistotiT~... da ase Semdeg...

* * *saqarTvelos didma patriarqma

gviTxra: umciresobebs Cven davicavT,magram vin daicavs umravlesobas, anuqarTvelebs?.. da iqve gvanugeSa: umrav-lesobas ufali daicavs!.. RmerTo, aax-dine didi patriarqis sityvebi!

* * *konstantine gamsaxurdiasTan erT-

erTi bolo Sexvedra. mweralma brZana:`gana saCino araa RvTis neba?.. aba, sx-

vafriv rogor avxsnaT maSindeluwignur, yovlad glexur Carglis Tem-Si amxela geniosis gamoCena!..~

* * *gadian wlebi: wlebi erTeuli da

wlebi aTeuli da ufro meti... berde-bian adamianebi. berdeba xeebi. berdebaquCebi da prospeqtebi. berdeba sofle-bi. berdeba qalaqebi. berdeba wignebi...magram xsovna ara berdeba, magram aRq-mis unari ara berdeba da is gveubneba,rom ara berdeba poezia: uasakoa didiSoTa CantlaZis leqsi...

* * *samSoblosaTvis Tavganwirvis

qadils jerjerobiT gmirad aravingauxdia. Tumca esec utyuari da didiWaSmaritebaa: roca dedasamSoblossikvdilSi Caenacvlebi!.. gmirebs mx-olod Sesabamisi situaciebi Zerwaven.situacias vinc ver Seeswro, is mar-toden qadilis amara darCa! es kigmiroba ar aris!.. gmirobis wyurvilidiadi ram aris: visurvoT gmirobissituaciaSi moxvedris wyurvili!

* * *poetebis colebi: didi megobroba

da Semweoba gauwia qalbatonma saramgabriel jabuSanurs, am WeSmarit xev-surs, Rvino-arayis trfials, TanacjanmrTelobadakarguls... aseve qal-batonma leram – Tedo beqiSvils, qal-batonma nanam – mamuka wiklaurs, qal-batonma Tamarma _ SoTa qavTaraZes,qalbatonma liram – aluda arabuls,qalbatonma nanam – gigi xornauls,qalbatonma ninom – aleqsi Win-Warauls... gagrZeleba kidev SeiZleba,magram mokled movWri da vityvi im si-tyvebs, rac saerTod qarTveli poete-bis colebs exeba: didad gaumarTlaCvens poetebs, aseTi Tanamlmobeli damravlisamtani colebi rom SexvdaT...vTqvaT am mandilosnebis samadlobe-li!

* * *riTmebma gamotoves striqonebi:

riTmebi daSorden erTimeores... riT-ma veRar xedav Tavis riTmas, Tavistyupiscals... es leqsi TiTqmis uriT-moa: TeTria, rogorc ianvris Tovli...

* * *wminda vaJa-fSavela ambobs: `ab-

daubda gadaskupda~... abdaubda sity-vamravloba. ybedobis Jini, dauokari.mavani CagvCiCinebs imas, rac isedacnaTelia, rac sxvebma iazres kai xnis winda wignebadac akinZes... da exla imwignebis Sinaarss rom CagvCiCineb, ci-tatebiT rom gvesaubrebi, es xom imasniSnavs, rom Sen aRmoaCine ara WeSmar-iteba, aramed – wigni... xolo wignisaRmoCena rigiT bibliofilsac kargadSeuZlia da ra qnas, amis gamo iyvirosda iTavcemos, rom...

* * *me davinaxe: es iyo verlibri: leqsi

Tavisufali: terenti granelis Sub-liviT farTo...

* * *Svilic egeTi unda, Tetidem ro Sva:

aqilevsi!

* * *saTvalavi ameria, ramdenjer wavi-

kiTxe `sokrates apologia~. yoveliwakiTxvisas vgrZnob, rom vivsebisokrateTi: ZvelberZnuli azrovnebisubraloebiT, sicxadiT, WeSmaritebismozeime gancdiT... oRond, ase mgonia,rom saTauric unda eTargmna. vTqvaTase: `sokrates qeba~...

* * *uerovno, ugulisyuro, unaTesavo

mavani. warmovidginoT iaponiis rome-lime laboratoriaSi Seqmnili amgvarimesia! iaponia amaod ar mixsenebia: iqdidi xania, bejiTad miedineba xelov-nuri adamianis Seqmnis cdebi... atomgu-lis gaxleCvis Semdeg raRa darCa? ad-amianis gulis gaxleCa! da esec ar daay-ovnebs!

* * *xari, mamo ro erqva. ase vesaubre-

bodiT: ha, mamo! ho, mamo! gaswie, mamo!agaiSi, mamo! xi, mamo! ho-ho, mamo! deg,mamo!... da ase Semdeg...

* * *Zveli CinmiCinis poetebis umeteso-

bis biografiebi ase mTavrdeba: garda-icvala ukidures simartoveSi da siR-atakeSi... amas ar weren, SimSiliT rommokvdnen: es ivaraudeba!

* * *ekleziastes gulis siRrme da

qvesknels mwvdomeli misi dardi:`sikvdilis dRe sjobia dabadebisas~...

* * *moyvasis siyvaruli iyo upirvele-

si ram, rasac CinmiCinis sami moZRvre-ba – daosizmi, konfucianeloba da Can-budizmi qadagebda. arcerT liter-aturas ar Seuqmnia amdeni leqsi mego-brobaze, megobarTan ganSorebisnaRvelze, megobarTan Sexvedraze, me-gobris monatrebaze, ramdenic Cinmi-Cinis poeziam Seqmna... megobarTan gan-Sorebam erTgvar ritualis dones mi-aRwia: ganSorebas naZvis motexilitotiT gamosaxavdnen. motexili rto– ganSorebis simbolo, CinmiCinispoeziis trafaretad iqca...

* * *iseTi siyvaruli, samwuxarod, sxva

dros ar migrZvnia, rogorc vuyvardiim cxens, Savra rom erqva!.. rogorcvuyvarvar Cems erTgul ZaRls, gordarom hqvia!.. rogorc didi sokrate ity-oda, Cems ZaRls vficav, ar migrZvniaZaRlis siyvarulze ufro didi siy-varuli!

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korniSi

1951 wlis Semdeg selinjeri dideb-is zenitSi imyofeboda. misma romanma`TamaSi Wvavis yanaSi~ Sokismomgvreliefeqti moaxdina mkiTxvelsa da lit-eratorebze. umetesobas saocrad mos-wonda, xolo sazogadoebis erT nawilsromanic amoralurad miaCnda da misimTavari gmiri holden kolfildic.Tumca amas xeli ar SeuSlia wignis pop-ularobisTvis. is Tavidanve iqca best-selerad da rvajer gamoica.

wignis gayidviT Semosulma Tanxamselinjers saSualeba misca, niu-iorkidan wasvlasa da sadme myudroadgilas saxlisa da miwis yidvazeefiqra. didi qalaqi savse iyo cdunebe-biT, aq Zalian gauWirdeboda ganmar-toeba da axal wignebze muSaoba. niu-iorki misTvis ukve damabrkolebeliciyo, Tavisi literatorebiT, holivu-dis varskvlavebiTa da koqteilwveulebebiT. impulsuri xasiaTis gamo,xandaxan gaugebrobebSic ki xvdeboda.daaxloebiT iseTSi, rogorc holdenkolfildi. erT-erTi cnobili Jurna-lis redaqtoris cols, romelic, al-baT, koqteiliT gabruebulma raRac-iT sakuTari Tavi romanis personaJ _sali heiss miamsgavsa, wveulebis das-rulebis Semdeg moulodnelad niu-iorkidan gaqcevac ki SesTavaza. qal-batons selinjeric moswonda da mas-Tan saubaric, arc niu iorkidan gasv-laze ityoda uars, magram arsebobdaori dabrkoleba, wveulebaze qmaricaxlda da fexmZimed iyo... Tumca esselinjerisTvis arafers niSnavda, masTavisi personaJis, holden kolfil-dis, msgavsad mtkiced sjeroda, romnamdvilad undoda im qalbatonTanerTad niu-iorkidan sadme Sors wa-suliyo...

da, ai, holdenis ocnebis axdenisdroc dadga, jerim da misma ufrosmadam dorisma mouxSires manqaniT qalaq-gareT gasvlas, raTa selinjerisTvissamosaxlod myudro adgili SeerCiaT.1953 wels mwerlis arCevani korniSzeSeCerda, romelic erT dros popu-laruli kurortic ki iyo niu-ior-kelebisa da bostonelebisTvis. iq ise-Ti cnobili saxeebi isvenebdnen,rogorebic iyvnen: isidora dunkani,eTel barimori, mogvianebiT kivudrou vilsonic. Tumca I msoflioomis Semdeg keip kodisa da hemptonsisaxalma zRvispirma kurortebma kor-niSs damsvenebeli waarTva. 50-ian wleb-Si is iyo patara qalaqi, romelsac arhqonda maRaziebi, restornebi, ofise-bi da ganviTarebuli biznesstruqtu-ra. selinjeric, albaT, swored TavisimitovebulobiT moxibla, radgan gan-martoebis moyvaruli mwerlisTvisidealuri adgilic ki iyo, sadac SeeZ-lo, ara mxolod literatorebisganmoSorebiT ecxovra, aramed patarameurneobac hqonoda, SeSa daeCexa dafexiT eseirna... korniSi marTlacsaocrad hgavda hiurtgenvaldis tyes,Tumca iq arc yumbarebi skdeboda daarc tyviamfrqvevebi kakanebda. kor-niSSi saocari siCume idga, romelicselinjers ase monatreboda. aqveiyvnen bavSvebi da Tineijerebi, rom-lebTan gasaubrebac uyvarda; tyianigorakebi, Semodgomaze ferebSi romgadadioda; miwa, romelzec SeeZlobostneuli moewia. erTi SexedviT yve-laferi mSvenivrad aewyo, magram mwer-als mainc raRac aklda, arsad iyo ad-amiani, romelsac eZebda, srulyofiliadamiani...

pirveli nacnobebi

Sirli bleni uinZoris kolejisgogonebs Soris gamorCeuli iyo. maszebiWebi Wkuas kargavdnen. jeri TavisiRia jipiT xSirad midioda korniSismaxloblad mdebare uinZorSi, raTagogonebi kolejebs Soris gamarTulgasvliT safexburTo TamaSebze waeyva-na. studentebi erTmaneTs aswrebdnenmanqanaSi Caxtomas. mTeli gzis man-

Temur gabunia

ori interviuSirli bleni da beti epesi bevri ramiT hgavdnen erTmaneTs _ orives sur-

da popularoba, finansuri mdgomareobis gamosworeba, sazogadoebaSi adg-ilis damkvidreba... am miznebis misaRwevad ki ukve cocxal legendad qceulmweral-gandegilisgan intervius aReba gadawyvites... gaarTves ki Tavi dasax-ul amocanas? an usamarTlod da araadekvaturad xom ar moeqcnen mas, visimeSveobiTac cnobad saxeebad qcevas apirebdnen?

ai, kiTxvebi, romlebic maT mier aRebuli interviuebis wakiTxvis Semdeggvebadeba...

Zilze ar wydeboda maTi mxiarulisaubari da sicili. yvelam icoda, jerimwerali rom iyo, Tumca zogs misi ro-mani wakiTxulic ar hqonda. es ar iyomTavari, selinjeri isedac moswondaT.masTan Tavs gansxvavebul da Tavisu-fal adamianebad grZnobdnen.

Sirli jipSi wina adgils ikavebda,is da selinjeri, rogorc wesi, didx-ans saubrobdnen. zogierT gogonasgasvliTi TamaSis Semdeg mSoblebirestoranSi wasvlis uflebasac kiaZlevdnen. mkacri ded-mamis pa-tronebs, maT Soris, eTel nelsons(selinjeris Svilebis momaval ZiZas),cota ar iyos, Surda kidec Sirlis,romelic mwerals xandaxan ara mx-olod restoranSi, saxlSic ki miyav-da.

jeris uamravi firfita hqonda,aseulobiT... arCevani didi iyo _ jazi,bluzi, klasikuri musika... Sirlis yve-laze metad Caikovskis `gedebis tbis~mosmena uyvarda da roca gogonebs was-vla moundebodaT xolme, maspinZeliityoda, darCiT, kidev erTxel mo-vusminoT ̀ gedebis tbas~.

selinjers adamianebi uyvarda, maT-Tan urTierToba. adamiani rom ar hy-vareboda, omSi moxalised arc wavido-da, sakuTar sicocxles sasworze ardadebda. sruli uflebac hqonda, sax-lSi darCeniliyo, radgan pirvel na-kadSi verc moxvda janmrTelobis arad-amakmayofilebeli mdgomareobisgamo... Tumca Seupovari aRmoCnda, gu-lis funqcionirebaSi aRmoCenilixarvezi, rogorc Cans, ar iyo serio-zuli. Tanac is faqti, rom veli for-jis samxedro akademia hqondadamTavrebuli, bevrs niSnavda... da, ai,polkovnik milton g. beikerisa dakolumbiis universtetis profesorisuit barnetis sarekomendacio wer-ilebis meSveobiT armiaSi xvdeba, imelitarul meoTxe diviziaSi, xel-CarTuli brZolebiT rom gaikvlia gzanormandiidan germaniamde. bunebrivia,ismis kiTxva: ra rjida? am kiTxvazeerTi umTavresi pasuxi arsebobs _ ad-amiani uyvarda. es rom ara, albaT, fa-Sizmsac ar SeiZulebda...

diax, selinjers sruli uflebahqonda, cota daesvena, sisxlismRvrelbrZolebSi gadarCenili sakuTari ro-manis gayidviT naSovni fuliT SeZenilsaxlSi mjdariyo da musikiT damtk-bariyo. gogonebs euxerxulebodaT,xom ar SevawuxeTo, jeri ki, piriqiT,darCenas Txovda, sababsac adviladpoulobda, xelSi firfita eWira daoTaxic male unda aevso Sirlis say-varel Caikovskis musikis hangebs... ko-rniSSi ki xumrobdnen, mag kacs erideT,Tu ar gindaT, romelime moTxrobisgmirad iqceTo...

uinZoris kolejs sakuTariyovelTviuri gazeTic hqonda da rad-gan am patara qalaqSi axali bevriaraferi xdeboda, misi Sevsebac Wirda...da, ai, erTxel kolejis win, kafeSimyof selinjerTan, sadac Cveulebi-samebr lanCs miirTmevda, Sirli da misimegobari gogona mividnen. Sirlim in-terviu Txova da jeric daTanxmda (impirobiT, rom kolejis gazeTSi gamo-qveyndeboda da sxvagan arsad). gazeTimomdevno orSabaTs unda gamosuliyoda gamovida kidec, Tumca iq interviuar dabeWdila, is mogvianebiT gamo-qveynda adgilobriv yoveldRiurgazeTSi _ deili igl. ra Tqma unda,selinjeri moatyues, albaT, Sirlismounda, popularuli gamxdariyo anfuls daxarbda. ase iyo Tu ise, inter-viu selinjerTan, romelic mxolodTineijerebisTvis iyo gankuTvnili,ufro farTo auditoriisTvis gaxdaxelmisawvdomi, rasac mwerali wesiTunda gaenawyenebina.

asec moxda. studentebTan urTier-Toba ki ar gacivda, saerTod Sewyda.jerim ase icoda, Tuki adamians erTx-el amoiRebda gulidan, mere ukveaRarc Seurigdeboda. mwerlis `san-qciebi~ eTel nelsonsac Seexo, romel-ic SirlisTan axloblobda. mogvi-anebiT, kleri, selinjeris meuRle, masbavSvebis ZiZad daiqiravebs, TumcaeTelsa da jeris Soris urTierTobamainc ar ganaxldeba. ase dawyvita gulimwerals motyuebiT aRebulma inter-vium.

gasaubreba selinjerTan

Jurnalist beti epesis gasaubre-bas selinjerTan Tamamad SeiZleba vu-wodoT `arSemdgari dialogi~. es naT-lad Cans deivid Sildsisa da Sein sal-ernos wignidan `selinjeri~, TumcaTavad avtorebi aRniSnul epizodssruliad gansxvavebul interpreta-cias aZleven. isini arafers amboben immTavar Secdomaze, Jurnalistma romdauSva SekiTxvebis dasmisas da ratom-

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Rac mxolod mwerlis arakomunikabe-lobas usvamen xazs, romlis mizezic,maTi azriT, ZiriTadad, omis stresi daaRmosavluri religiebiT gatacebaiyo.

mainc ra Secdoma dauSva Jurnal-istma? riTi gaanawyena selinjeri?

gazeT `beton rujis~ Jurnalists,ormoc wels mitanebul beti epess, 1980wels didi jafa daadga imisTvis, romgandegili mwerlisgan interviu aeRo.mas imJamad garkveuli problemebihqonda, rogorc janmrTelobis mxriv,aseve samsaxurSic da haeriviT sWird-eboda raRac siaxle, Tundac sensaci-uri interviu, romelic saxels gauTq-vamda da finansur mdgomareobasacgauumjobesebda.

betim gadawyvita, sakuTari mogza-uroba Tavad daefinansebina. iafadiqirava Zveli modelis lurji ̀ pinto~,romelmac korniSamde Zlivs Caiyvana.Jurnalistma icoda, rom selinjeridaupatiJebel stumrebs ar iRebda, amisgamo saxlTan misvla azradac ar mos-vlia. erTaderTi gamosavali situaci-is dazverva iyo, raTa gaerkvia, Tu ragziT SeiZleboda mweralTan dakav-Sireba, Tumca adgilobrivebisganraime informaciis miReba warmoudgen-lad rTuli Canda, metic, menayinem,romelsac viTomdac SemTxveviT sity-va selinjerze Camougdo, uaric kiTqva, betisTvis nayini mieyida, xolomwerlis msaxur-ekonoms, korniSeliyasbis maRaziidan rom daureka, pani-kuri SiSi daewyo, samsaxuridan ar da-eTxovaT. Tumca roca daarwmuna, mwer-lis myudroebis darRvevas ar vapire-bo, gulze moeSva da auxsna _ rogordakavSireboda. betis, ubralod, wer-ili unda daetovebina uinZoris fos-taSi. misamarTis miTiTeba saWiro arciyo, radgan selinjeri TiTqmis yovel-dRe Cadioda misTvis gankuTvnilibaraTebis mosakiTxad. beti asec moiq-ca. sul male mokle, magram damain-trigebeli werili ukve konvertSiido, romelic sagangebod korniSisbunebis SeqebiT iwyeboda. beti arc

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* * *samocdameeqvse soneti. es rom ge-

nialuri Seqspiris gulis monasxletia,sulac araa gasakvirveli! gasakviri dasasixaruloa, am sonetis didebuli (vi-tyvi: aseve genialuri!) qarTuli Targ-mani rom gvaqvs, givi gaCeCilaZis Ses-rulebuli. vixseneb: universitetSi isgvmoZRvravda Targmnis TeoriaSi.vfiqrob: misma leqciebma raRac keTiliSedegi udavod gamoiRo... is menaneba:am didebulma mTargmnelma edgar pos`yorani~ rom ar Targmna!

* * *siRatakis yomral nislSi mobori-

ale xSirad vixseneb gigla sariSvils:ra SesaniSnavad Targmna: ̀ erTxel aris-todemosma arcTu urigo sityva romwarmoTqva spartaSi, brZana: fuliakaci!.. marTlac da glaxaks arc dide-ba aqvs da arc pativi!~

* * *`wigni didi siyvarulisa~... jabuSa-

nuris Canawerebidan da werilebidanvigebT, rom iwereboda aseTi wigni. iw-ereboda arxotSi, RilRoSi, larsSi,TbilisSi da ase Semdeg... exla SegekiTx-ebi: sad gaqra is wigni? dabejiTebiTvityvi, rom poets samareSi ar wauRia!maS, sadaa, ratom ar gamosca? cam Cay-lapa, Tu miwam: raRac amis magvari xomar moxda!

* * *zneobrivi aRviraxsniloba, omebi,

uolstritis caTambjenebis dangreva,Zaladoba... es yovelive daiwyo maSin,roca mokvdavma saRvTo gzidan gada-uxvia, roca saeWvo Semecneba gaixadaTavisi yofierebis erTaderT orienti-rad, roca yvelaze did saidumloszurgi Seaqcia, waruvals ganudga,xolo warmavali da knini gaafetiSa!..

* * *riTmosani poetebis Canafiqri xSir-

ad axali, jeracmiugnebeli riTmis mo-Ziebas ewireba: esec mkiTxvelis im-edgacrueba... magram sxva rames vxedavTWeSmaritad riTmosani poetis emzarkvitaiSvilis axal wignSi `Semodgomisxizani~. aq riTmis simartive da siaxlemarTlac poeturi gardasaxvis nawil-ia: riTmebi da striqonebi igrZnobaidumal fesvebiviT. poeti wers: `Tva-li ver hkidon, iseT siRrmeebSi da si-maRleSi gavuSva fesvi~... dastur asea:siRrmec da simaRlec sCans, magram aqfesvi ver daimaleba, mas vxedavT damkiTxvelis bednierebac es aris: poet-ur gardasaxvaTa wiaRSi kurTxeulfesvs rom ixilavs: poeziis RvTaebriviwarmomavlobac xom amiT mtkicdeba...

* * *damijere: mwared cdebian isini, da-

bejiTebiT rom amboben, TiTqosdedamiwaze sicocxlis Sewyveta Sesa-Zlebelia da es moxdeba ori atomurisaxelmwifos Sejaxebis gamo... vTqvaT,waekidnen mefeebi, prezidentebi, pre-mierebi da sxva maTi msgavsebi... gekiTx-ebi: nuTu eseni Caanacvleben imas, visididi nebiTac sicocxle gaCnda dedami-waze?

* * *samSoblo... am sityvas raRac suni

dahkravs: da es aris Tavganwirvis, dar-dis, sikvdilis suni!

* * *meubnebi: kargia, rusuli ena rom

ganvipatiJeTo... ra vqna, am martiv vi-TomWeSmaritebas ver gaviTaviseb, verdavijereb, ver virwmuneb!.. dabejiTe-biT geubnebi: puSkinic da dostoevskicrusulad unda wavikiTxoT! aseve mTli-anad didi rusuli literaturac!..kargia, Cven zogierT skolebSi rusulsrom aswavlian... aseve misasalmebelifaqti iqneba, Cvens skolebSi didi Ci-nuri enis Seswavlas Tu Seudgebian. esec

sasurvelia, ukvdav Cinur literatu-ras Cinurad Tu gavecnobiT: SiZinis,daodeZinis, ciui iuanis, du fus, vanveis, li bos, li cinjaos, men haoJanis,su Sis, boZiuis da aseve TanamedroveCinuri literaturis teqstebs... cxa-dia, es yovelive qarTulad naTarg-manebic mogvepoveba, magram umjobesia,rom viswavloT Cinuri: Cinurad wavi-kiTxoT es Cinebuli literatura!

* * *axalgazrdoba xom iTamaSe xelaRe-

biT da didi davidarabis gareSe. xomiTamaSe Suaasakic: iyo didi dardi, iyodidi imedgacruebac... exla, sibereSisul sxva fiqri agekviata: siberis Tama-Si xom SeuZlebelia, SeuZlebelia, Seu-Zlebelia da Tanac saTakilo, araka-curi, radgan asea: erTi fexi ukve sa-mareSi gidgas, xolo calfexiT uvne-bod da uimedebod ver iTamaSeb Sen si-beres verasdidebiT!

* * *crupoezia: tyuilis leqsi... vis

atyueb Se y...o!

* * *germaneli mwerali wers: `scadeT,

marcvalSi gadaurieT qviSa da ise da-TeseT: miwa gamoicnobs, romeliamarcvali~... SoTa CantlaZes marcval-Si qviSa ar gaurevia, ise daTesa... mkiTx-velis saWoWmanod ar gaxada Tavisipoezia. waikiTxav, grZnob, rom es ariswminda marcvali. gulSi aris misi ala-gi, misi miwa, misi adgilis deda... manaRago didi saxli, romlis fuZeSi, anusqolioSi binadrobs poeziis fuZis an-gelozi...

* * *odesme vinme Cems biografias Tu

dawers, vTxov, ase daamTavros: ̀ garda-icvala ukidures siRatakeSi da simar-toveSi~... merwmune, es simarTlea daamis ar Semrcxveba... da erTic samwuxa-ro faqti: Cvens droSi, CvenssaqarTveloSi ramdenime naRdi, ni-WiTcxebuli mwerali SimSiliT mokv-da!.. esec Seni nanatri Tavisufleba,romelsac Tanasdevs masobrivi SimSi-loba da uimedoba TvTiTdawyevlili!

* * *rogorc amboben, samaCablo Camog-

vacila mterma: is kurTxeuli qarTu-li miwa mavTulxlarTebiT SemoRoba.mavTulxlarTSi gadis is deni, regionssaqarTvelodan rom miewodeba! esecxom erTgvari bedovlaTobaa dadaunizmi, Tandayolili!

* * *dabejiTebiT gveubnebian, rom Tavi-

si cvalebadobiT, ukidegano konvul-siebiT da amouxsnelobiT, samyaroTamaSia... gveubnebian, magram veravinver axsnis, vin TamaSobs? vin Caifiqraes TamaSi? rodis damTavrdeba es Tama-Si da sxva... maS, vin TamaSobs? vin? Rm-erTi? amis warmodgenac ki mkrexelo-baa!.. maS, vin? satana? pasuxi ar aris!da, radgan pasuxi ar aris, esec vTqvaT:samyaro, anu es TamaSi upasuxo kiTxvaa!xolo upasuxo kiTxvis dasma didiuazrobaa!.. ai, sad mivediT! Cven varTaravin da vTamaSobT uazrobas... Rmer-To, RmerTebo!

* * *ase: damTavrda ̀ xelis-gulis anabe-

Wdebi~. kai xans iwereboda: es wigni iyoCemi metapoeziis pirveli tomis (`fur-clebi~) gagrZeleba... da, RvTis Sew-evniT, esec damTavrda: keTili gamom-cemi Tu Semxvda ̀ xelis-gulis anabeWd-ebic~ dRis sinaTles ixilavs... metapoe-zia dRes Cveni poeziis realobaa dapoeziis am frTas, vfiqrob, Cemi nawere-bic amagreben. amas kmayofilebiT vam-bob... xolo ra iqneba samomavlod, amasxalxuri trafaretiT vupasuxeb:xvalem ikiTxos xvalisa!

jarji fxoveli

xelis-gulis anabeWdebidasasruli

TvalTmaqcobda, aqauroba marTlacmSvenieri Canda. tyis peizaJebis mimz-idvelobis Tema rom amowura, sakuTariTavic dauxasiaTa. epesi yofili mode-li da CogburTeli gaxldaT, mwvaneTvalebi da mowiTalo oqrosferi Tmahqonda da, ai, axla am momxiblav qal-batons, Tavi mwerlobiT rom gahqonda,selinjeris gacnoba ganezraxa. Sex-vedris adgili uinZoris xidi unda yo-filiyi, dro _ dilis aTis naxevari.orjer gamovidoda Tavisi lurji ̀ pin-toTi~, Tu jeri ar gamoCndeboda, metsaRarc Seawuxebda...

bunebis Seqebam gaWra, betis gareg-nobis aRweram, Tu misma modelobam daCogburTelobam, Zneli saTqmelia,Tumca faqtia, selinjeri mas Sexvda.betim asec icoda, mwerali xom qalebi-sadmi gulgrili da uyuradRebo ara-sodes yofila!

maRali TmebSevercxlili kaciataSes keisiT aTis naxevrisTvis lurj`pintos~ rom miuaxlovda, betis ise

od, uneblieT Tu winaswarganzraxu-lad, swored ase moiqca. is Seexo selin-jerisTvis yvelaze mtkivneul sakiTxs_ misi nawarmoebebis ekranizacias daaseve Sirli blenis, romelmac ocdaa-Tiode wlis win mwerals guli dawyvi-ta.

_ londonSi Casvlasa da filmisgadaRebas xom ar apirebT, rogorc misSirli blenis uTxariT? _ ekiTxebodaaxla es mwvaneTvaleba qalbatoni daselinjeri Secba.

_ saidan amoqeqeT es Zveli ambebi?_ usayvedura betis da sTxova, sxvaTemaze esaubraT. Tumca meore SekiTx-va kidev ufro ucnauri Canda. Jurnal-isti Tanaxma iyo, Tema Seecvala, oRondmas Semdeg, rac cotaTi gaxalisdebod-nen.

_ im gemis saxeli Tu gaxsovT, gam-rTobad rom muSaobdiT?

es ukve metismeti iyo. jeri wamiTdaeWvda kidec, beti imaT dakveTas xomar asrulebda, vinc mas 60-ian wlebSimsoflmxedvelobrivad daupirispir-

Temur gabunia

ori interviu

dasasruli

gauxarda, cekva mounda. `movida, mov-ida!~ _ butbutebda da momuStul xelshaerSi iqnevda. mere fanqari rveulSiCado, manqanidan gadavida da Crdil-idan gamosuls Seacqerda. selinjeriwignis ydaze gamosaxuli fotodan ax-sovda, Savi TmiTa da simpaTiuri gar-egnobiT. axla is sruliad gaWaRarave-buliyo...

da, ai, es TeTrTmiani mamakaci,romelic Tvalebs saerTod ar axamx-amebda, mis win aRmarTuliyo da trad-iciuli misalmebis Semdeg saubris awy-obas cdilobda. beti Tavs uxerxuladgrZnobda, ver xvdeboda, rom gaSeSebu-li mzera iogaSi xangrZlivi varjiSisSedegi unda yofiliyo, maincdamaincarc is moswonda, rasac selinjeri ur-Cevda. misi azriT, Tuki surda namd-vili mwerali gamxdariyo, Jurnalis-tikisTvis Tavi unda mienebebina, rad-gan gazeTSi muSaoba da xelovneba orisruliad SeuTavsebeli ram iyo...

male selinjerma Tema Secvala,axla sakuTar Tavze saubrobda. mTavarproblemas politikosebSi xedavda,romlebic adamianebs horizontsuzRudavdnen, is ki, piriqiT, cdilob-da _ gaefarTovebina. TandaTanobiTmaTi saubari monologs daemsgavsa. be-tis iseTi grZnoba gauCnda, TiTqos Ta-vad studenti iyo, mwerali ki _ pen-siaSi gasuli profesori, leqcias romukiTxavda, amitom situaciis Sesacvle-lad gadawyvita, Tavad daesva SekiTx-vebi. betis uinZorSi Casvlamde bib-lioTekaSi moeZebna ̀ deili iglis~ Zve-li, gayviTlebuli nomeri, romelSicis interviu iyo dabeWdili, selin-jerisgan motyuebiT rom aeRo mis Sir-li blenis. iqidan raRac sakiTxebiamoewera da amjerad swored maT Sesax-eb apirebda saubars.

es iyo mTavari Secdoma, am intervi-uze dayrdnoba arafriT SeiZleboda,radgan, rogorc ukve aRvniSneT, mo-tyuebiT gaxldaT aRebuli da wesiTada rigiT, Tavis droze mxolod kole-jis yovelTviur gazeTSi unda dabeWd-iliyo da ara _ uinZoris yoveldRi-ur `deili iglSi~. meorec, interviuSiiyo uzustobebi, ewera, TiTqos selin-jeri inglisSi apirebda gamgzavrebasfilmis gadasaRebad, rac fantastikissferos ufro Seesabameboda, vidre si-namdviles... da bolos, interviusaSkarad etyoboda, rom araprofesion-als Caewera, Tanac Zveli, 50-iani wleb-is droindeli gaxldaT, amitom didiSecdoma iyo, 1980 wels ukve asakovanimwerlisTvis masze dayrdnobiT raimeSekiTxvebi daesvaT. beti ki, samwuxar-

da da dRemde ver Segueboda mis mzardpopularobas. yvelaferi SesaZlebeliiyo, imis miuxedavad, rom es qalbato-ni TvalTmaqcis STabeWdilebas namd-vilad ar tovebda. iqneb es SekiTxvaerTgvari gzavnilic gaxldaT oponen-tebisgan, romlebsac surdaT, mieniSne-binaT, rom is axlac gamrTobi iyo daara mwerali.

maSin jeri xSirad gadioda gemban-ze RamRamobiT, zRvis xmaurs usmendada varskvlavebiT moWedil casuyurebda, yvelasa da yvelaferze iyogabrazebuli: mamazec _ yvelisa daxorcis distribuciis biznesSi romupirebda CarTvas, mwerloba ki arase-riozul saqmed miaCnda; Jurnal `niuiorkerzec~, 1941 wels ukve gamosaqvey-neblad gamzadebuli moTxroba `mcireamboxi medison aveniuze~ rom daublo-ka da eqimebzec, omSi pirvelsave nakad-Si rom ar gauSves... diax, protestisniSnad Tu gulis gadasayoleblad mar-Tlac wavida gemze oriode TviT gamr-Tobad samuSaod, magram im Zvel ambebsratom axsenebdnen?! nuTu ufro seri-ozul sakiTxebze aranairi SekiTxvebiar hqondaT? misi nawarmoebebis kiTx-visas xom, sul cota, oTxi kulturu-li samyarosa da religiis Sesaxeb undagaCenoda adamians SekiTxvebi (qris-tianobis, induizmis, budizmisa da dao-sizmis)? amdeni xnis siCumis Semdeg,rogorc iqna, interviuze daTanxmda,isini ki kvlav raRac zRaprebze es-aubrebodnen, nuTu jer kidev 50-ianwlebSi gamocemul nawarmoebebSi armianiSna, rom kino WiriviT sZulda daholivudTan TanamSromlobas arapirebda? an is gemi saidanRa gaaxsen-daT?

aSkarad Canda, selinjers saubrisyovelgvari xalisi warTmeoda. nebis-mier SekiTxvaze, romelic betisSemdgomSi unda daesva, erTnairad pa-suxobda: `es yvelaferi saidan amo-qeqeT? ratom mekiTxebiT amas? umjobe-sia, mwerlobaze visaubroT~.

diax, arc erTi arsebiTi SekiTxvaar dausvamT, romelic mis msoflmxed-velobas an Semoqmedebis Tavisebu-rebebs Seexeboda.

betis ki ukvirda, rom interviu arSedga.

epesi mogvianebiT popularulicgaxdeba, uamrav SeTavazebebsac miiRebsaxali samuSao adgilebidan da, raRaTqma unda, Jurnal ̀ beton rujSic~ mt-kiced daimkvidrebs adgils. Tumca mis-Tvis bolomde gaurkveveli darCeba, Turatom aRar pasuxobda SekiTxvebsselinjeri...

9literaturuli gazeTiliteraturuli gazeTiliteraturuli gazeTiliteraturuli gazeTiliteraturuli gazeTi poezia5 - 18 seqtemberi 2014

martis fsalmuni

Cqamic ki aRar gamaRviZebs.rogorc kenWi, mdinaridan gamoriyuli,ise viqnebida Tevzebis tanis Sexebasmogonebad davinarCuneb,Tavsatexad:ratom SemexoaseTi glispi,Tan aseTi kriala kaniT...xavier, gesmis?ukrainaSi omi daiwyoda sulamiTs oqrosferi Tmebi SeaWres,ufro sworad:ferfliT mokveces...ferflisferi oTxSabaTi ise Tendeba,TiTqos gamcemi ubeSi ar gvegulebodesda ar gviyvardes,an ar vicodeT,rom swored is gveamboreba,roca ocnebis moyvavile baRebs CavuvliT...Cveni TamaSic xom es iyo mxolod da mxolod:Sen yofiliyav xavieri,me ki bardemi,anda piriqiT....da erTmaneTTan gvelaparakagamouTqmeli martoobis mware sityvebi,gvexumra,ase gveTamaSa erTianoba,ise alalad gagvecina sisuleleze,TiTqos Tvrametis vyofiliyav _cxovrebisgan mouxeSavi,yvelafris da yovelives ndobiT aRmqmeli,arc SekiTxvebi gamCenoda,yvelaferi ise mimeRo,rogorc Canda,anda rogorc Tavs maCvenebda...Tumca, ici:me yvelafers winaswar vgrZnobdi,ufro sworad,yvelaferi ukve minaxavs:oci welia,gameorebis akvanSi vwevar,yvelaferi meordebada CviliviT marwevs da marwevs,oRond, verafriT ver maZinebs,guls mirevs mxolod,Tvals miWrelebsda amitomac Tavs vimZinareb,magram nu mkiTxav _rasa vxedavTvaldaxuWuli....

kunZuli

Sen gikvirs Cemi upirobo siyvaruli,TiTqos gRlis dacdilob, Tavidan moicilo,rogorc qrTami,uangaro sikeTisTvis uxerxulad rom

CagiCurTes gulis jibeSi.ra Tqma unda, orSi erT-erTi mudam iseTi zneobrivia,ukanonod SemoZleuls xels ar mohkidebsda Rirseba ar miscems nebas,is miiRos, rac ar ekuTvnis.meore ki Tavs imcirebs da jibeSi fuls utenis

malviT da krZalviTimas, visac sakuTari sikeTe ukvirs,radgan TavisTavs wamiTac ar gascilebiada sakuTar sijiuteze ise abia, rogorc kruxiviwro paloze _sixarulis wiwilebis gamomCekveli...me ki maSin, roca Sengan gamovbrundi,roca Cemi upirobo siyvaruli SemogaCeCeda amiT Tan davmZimdi,Tan gavTavisufldi,avtobusis bolo skamze gadavweqida davinaxe _ gverdiT Zveli Jurnali egdo,ydamoxeuli, ufro sworad: raRac nafleTiJurnalisa. iq ki viRacis (albaT, qalis) leqsi ewera(amerikelis, an SeiZleba, holandielis)radgan am leqss`siurprizi kunZulze~erqva:`im saRamos, seirnobidan Sin rom davbrundi,ZaRlis tyavi davinaxe,wvrili lursmnebiT rom gaekraT saxlis kedelze.msxverpli iyo sul axali. kideebze sisxli ecxoda es ar iyo Cemi ZaRli,radgan ZaRli saerTod ar myavsda arc miyvars isini (viRacam ki, rogorca Cans,

es ar icoda).tyavi iyo Ria ruxi, uTavo, magram kudSerCenili,saxlis kedelze gaSlili da damagrebuli,skolis dafaze dakidebul

naxevarkunZulis rukas mohgavda,qalaqi ki aRniSnuli iyo naxvretiT,

giorgi lobJaniZe

kedlisaken nasrol tyvias rom gaeCina.Sin rom Sevedi, Tvali naxvretTan mivitaneda davinaxe xeTa muqi siluetebi.mTeli Rame Carazul karTan vijeqi da

yavis finjans finjanze vclidi. vfiqrobdi: `Tu saxls ZaRli icavs,

maSin me, dae, misi tyavi Tilismad meqces!~arc im RamiT,arc momdevno sami RamiT arvin mosula.meoTxe dRes gamgzavrebis droc momivida.tyavi ki isev iq ekida _ gamomSrali,

gaxevebuli. buzebisimyralesTan erTad gaqrnen, aorTqldnen.gavifiqre, `egeb muqara ki ara da, saCuqaria es?~

_ tyavslursmnebi auCqareblad amovacaleda wamoviRe...~ucnauri leqsi iyo.ras gaugeb qalebs,miT ufro, kunZulze mcxovrebT,ZaRlis tyavic ki saCuqari hgoniaT zogjer,roca undaT, daijeron,rom viRacas uyvars isini,tyavs kedlidan Camoxsnian,Sig exvevian,Tavs iTbuneben daveRar grZnoben SiSvel tanze lursmnebis Cxvletas.

mitovebulis simRera

minda giTxra: ase kargiar viyavi dasakargi,magram, kargo, raki mkargavda CamTvale zedmet bargad,gzebic mudam giyvaodes,brZandebode mudam kargadsamyaroSi, sadac orifoTolic ki erTurTs ar gavs,sad yvavilebs maisSic kimovlebiaT TrTvilis qarga,yvelas, vinc ki aris kargi,uwevs gamoiRos xarki:rogorc TviTmfrinavis bargi,ikargeba dasakargi...Senc danakargs eguebi,imitom, rom sxva gza ar gaqvs...

am sarkidan im sarkemde

da movida maradiuli Zma Cems sizmarSi,mTvaris nimbiviT idumali, gamoucnobi,mkiTxa:xedav am xelebs, megobaro?asi aTasi venaxi gavsxal me am xelebiT,amovasxi da amovasxiyurZnis gviristi,es sizmari SenTvis axla sityva `isrims~ hgavs:

ver gaigeb,radgan ar ici,rom `isrimi~ mkvaxe yurZens niSnavda CvenSi,im dros, rodesacCemi sicocxle brdRvialebda,rogorc yurZnis mwife mtevani.sizmris ylortisinamdvilesar daemynoba.ver eTviseba, ver hguobs erTurTs sxvadasxva jiSi.mevenaxe kacma icises martivi sibrZne _ufro nagrZnobi,ufro guliT SemecnebulimaSin, rodesac vazis foTlebSi iwvdida xelebsda mtevnebi ewvdebodnen ZuZuebiviT.JrJolisgan iyo amosxmuli es ZuZuebi...Tvalebs xuWavda mevenaxeda tuCebiT eZebda marcvlebsda marcvlebi miusxltodnenmTvaris nimbiviT...TrTvilis xelebiT akakunebs balaxebzeoqtomberiCems qveyanaSi....bednierebamarcval-marcval unda eZebo! –mTqnarebiT ambobs cxovrebada piri ise dauRiakakanaTiviT,rom sul advilad dauTvli kbilebs _saR, moelvare TrTvilis marcvlebs,Sen rom xorbali ggonia, lurji...es siTeTre iisferSi gardamavalibalaxebze areklili mTvaris nimbia.is CurCulebs:am sarkidanim sarkemdeRirda Sriali....

aq araferi

isev guli gereva, Cemo siyvarulo?es imas niSnavs,rom male Cven gveyoleba Svili,romelsac arafers davarqmevT,radgan Sen abortisaTvis emzadebida eqimTan ise midixar,rogorc premieraze...Cven TviTonve aRara gvaqvscxovrebis Tavi,amitom jobs,is gaiwiros,vinc ar mosula...yvelaferi ucvlelad darCes...gulisreva ase Sewydeba,siyvarulis Tavbrusxvevac xomkarga xania, gadavliliada yvelaferi isea,viTomc,aq araferi...

10 literaturuli gazeTiliteraturuli gazeTiliteraturuli gazeTiliteraturuli gazeTiliteraturuli gazeTiesse 5 - 18 seqtemberi 2014

Semodgomaa _ dro raRac etapisSejamebisa. marTalia, pirobiTis –mainc nawilis. rogorc sicocxlis.rac grZeldeba. arsebiTad ar iwyebs daar amTavrebs rames. aramed sul mim-dinareobs. procesia. Tumca msazR-vrel-sazRvrulis es sintaqsuri SeT-anxmebuli mocemuloba, `cota dro~,ufro pasuxad Tu erTgvar simbolurminiSnebad Tu gamodgeba Cemi mwerlo-bis usayvarlesi im personaJis, kacis,mier dasmul kiTxvaze, visi yofnac (arvici ratom) am esses weris dros,rogorc xsovna ucocxlesi, Tan mdev-da, vis arsebobasac (saocaria!) gver-diT vgrZnobdi. ai, aseTi fantastikuriwarmosaxvebis gareSe albaT ra martodgrZnoben marTlacda Tavebs isini,`TviTkmayofili~ `misalocebi~. uda-od. ara?

arada, `cota~, marTalia, ricxviTsaxelTa kriteriumad moiazreba, ma-gram misi zogadoba arsebiTad da erT-droulad gamoricxvaa mikuTvnebasTanerTad misi mniSvnelobis naxsenebiklasifikaciisaTvis. es azri, rogorceWvis Setana, udaoa, eWvsac ar iwvevs,Tavdayira abrunebs sagnis mniSvnelo-bas, sarCuls – pirisken.

modi, erTxel gabrazdes meTqimkiTxveli imis gamo, rom aq punqtua-cia areuli iqneba. sxva, samagierod,sworad dawers. bolos da bolos Cvenmas mivaCvevT, yuradReba mimarTos sulsxva, azrobrivi mxarisaken. enis sivr-cis Sesaba -misi aRqmisaken. bolos isamas aucileblad SeZlebs. mas es. auci-leblad gamouva.

anki, `es xom Zaladobaa!~, iqnebmiTxras romelime `xelmZRvanelma~.Tumca garwmunebT, me es azradac armomsvlia. miTumetes am sityvebTan mi-marTebaSi. ubralod ase gamovida.

`aris qveynad sityvebi, romlebi-sTvisac Zalzed Znelia gverdigverdyofna, am SemTxvevaSic asea, sad`karceri~ da sad ̀ luqsi~, magram maincar arsebobs dedamiwaze iseTi ori si-tyva, odesme erTmaneTs rom ar Seexos,axlac asea...~ TiTqos kiTxviT Tavis Se-qceva dauswreblad gangacdevinebs,rac arasdros gadagxdenia. TiTqosgecxovros da Tanac ise – erTdrou-lad. gadmogyolodes mexsiereba, rocasaqme namdvil cxovrebas Seexeba.aqcevdes kiTxvas garTobiT swavlad,da erTdroulad, roca aseTi meocnebemyarad dgaxar yofis miwaze.

kargi. maSin Sevecdebi ufro naTe-li gavxado (rame). magaliTad, saTau-ris sityvebs, leqsikur elementebs,Soris ganvsazRvro sintaqsuri urT-ierTobis saxeebi Tu ara, maTi mniS-vnelobebi mainc mocemul am konteqst-Si. sxvanairad: mcire leqsikonis mag-vari SemogTavazo. vfiqrobdi kidec.sadac maTi Sinaarsebi iqneba gan -zo-gadebuli. ara iseTi, rogorc amboben,aramed – rogorc mindoda meTqva,rogorc mindoda, Sen gagego.

aSkarad, socialuroba, ara. bune-brivi mdgomareoba, individisgan(farisevlur) aJitirebas igulisxmebs.is dramatuli xelovnuroba, romlispoza Sengan moiTxovs Rimils, xotbas,optimistur mxardaWeras, anumoCvenebiT emociurobas. roca xSiradda bunebrivad es ar aris konkretuliyofnis Seni forma. roca. giyvars is,vinc unda giyvardes. zrunav maTze,viszec zrunvac Seni udao valdebule-ba, bunebrivia. gavrcobas aRarsaWiroebs. da aseT dros uTqmelobamiT ufro ar gamoricxavs bunebriv,sufTa mimReblobas, rac udaoa. magramraki konkretuli, yola-qonebis ga-momxatveli, warmoqmnili es zedsar-Tavi saxeli, socialuroba, masiur gax-snilobas unda gulisxmobdes, da an-tonimur mis Sesatyviss tvirTaven arc-Tu dadebiTi azriT, maSin erTgvar pa-siurobas unda mieces uaryofiTiemociuri planis statusi. is aseTadganixileba. rac, Tavis mxriv, iwvevs:socialuroba iqces kompleqsad, mim-Reblobis, siyvarulis masiur niSnad.

alteracia _ socialurisabazro politika da

(Tanamedrove) literatura.Tu ̀ romeli saaTia, klim?~

cifrul racionalurobad. Tumca kiCems enaSi is, abstraqtuli arsebiTi,arsebobs erTgvar morfologiur kat-egoriad. ar gulisxmobs mravlobiTo-bas, aramed aris rogorc unari, sub-ieqtis Sinagani mdgomareoba, sakuTre-ba. rac an gaqvs, an ar gagaCnia. da ariqneba xelovnuri emociuri Sesatyvi-si, umJRavnebde mas, vinc cdilobsmainc Seni esmodes.

es nawilobriv gulisxmobs kidecmusikalur gagebas im arsebiTi cnebeb-is miRma, vis xiblsa da zemoqmedebisunars, xmovan idumalebas, sakuTar Tav-Si atareben sityvebi. risi flobacmusikis garda bgeraTmgrZnobelobasxelewifeba. es uxilavi, gaugonarimusikaa. ucxo da msgavsi dinebebiT. sulsxva sivrceSi arsebuli moicavs sulissul sxva Sreebs. smenis miRma da -evane-ba.

es aSkaraa, Cemi mcire musikaluriganaTlebis bralia. me is. dasawyisSimivatove. nawilobriv SemomrCa raRac.raki siRrme (smeniTi da instrumentu-li ganviTarebiT) gamoiricxa, sityvebs

marTlebas, personalur pasuxgebas.rac, TavisTavad, igavuri analogia wy-lis nayvis an qaris Tanabrad ganaw-ilebis mweralsa da danarCens Soris.rac ufro SeuZlebelia, vidre urwmu-no. magram msgavsi SemTxveviToba, per-sonaJs ganixilavdes cocxal, social-ur fenomenad, erTdroulad xazs us-vams mis sicocxlis unars, da ra Tqmaunda, SemoqmedebiT unars imisi, vincmoaxerxa saqmeSi (wignSi) CauxedavissafuZvlianad aRelveba. an ki vin undaagos pasuxi STagonebisTvis, pasux-isTvis garemomcvel sinamdvileze, xe-lovnebis am erTgvari refleqsuri un-arisTvis. sxva veravin gikarnaxebs qm-nide ase. cxovrebam unda gaiZulos. isarasdros iocnebebda adamianTaSTagonebebi emarTa. ase gamovida.

da Tu es SesaZlebelia, erTifraziT gadmomeca ganwyobiTi Seusa-bamo oponireba erTi SexedviT Sesabam-is mxareTa Soris, davuSvebdiT maTema-tikas uzustes mecnierebad, anu: erTierTs udris, ai, es erTi fraza gamax-sendeboda:

mieqces qalaqis tipis dasaxlebaSi mcx-ovreb adamianTa Tavisufal dros,romlis sferoc ganisazRvreba, jererTi, imiT, rom warmoadgens adamianisformirebis erT-erT faqtors, Sedisra komponentad misi cxovrebisa damoqmedebis kompleqsSi; meore _ romaseTi gamokvleva gvexmareba...~

doCanaSvilis personaJis am mono-logiT Sevecade, Semometana ganwyoba,rac Tanamedrove literaturul pro-cesebs xsnis. ara mxolod msoflxed-vebis, aramed Rirebulebebis metnak-lerbobas gansazRvravs (Tu, ra Tqmaunda, maT Tvladobis sizustis unarsmivaniWebdiT). xelmZRvanelis da ke-JeraZis (Tav)dajerebuli ukultur-obis da maxvili gonierebis koliziurisaxeebi keTili da Rimiliani mWvrete-lobiT gvixataven sulierigamocdilebis ubralo Sesabamisobebs,rac erTdroulad personaJTa soci-umSi poziciuri mdebareobis ganm-sazRvrelia. rogorc raRac Seusaba-mo balansis msgavsi. erT SemTxvevaSifizikuri da meore – sulieri sawyisisupiratesobiT.

aseT dros, ̀ rogor SeiZleba mimar-To or kacs erTnairad, maSin, rodesacerTs wakiTxuli ara aqvs...~ vTqvaT...

Tuki ̀ xandaxan araa maTematika zus-ti mecniereba, literaturaSi ki aseTiuzustoba arasodes ar moxdeba, yve-laze ukanono mecniereba TumcaRakia...~

xoda, SevTanxmdiT.sityvebi da saxeldebebi aq ar arian

SemTxveviTi. maT, azrobrividatvirTvis garda, enis leqsikurmTlianobaSi mosazRvruli aqvT maT-Tvis gansakuTrebuli sferoebi. rasSeiZleba gamoxatavdes ganyenebuladzedsarTavis odnaobiTi xarisxi, anstatikuri zmna, an maigivebeli kavSi-ri. Tundac:

`Camoiara iman, erTdros sacolem,eh, saidumlonarevi, Soreuli sil-amaziT aRsavsem, rogoricaa sityva...`moiisfro~, gverdiT ki mohyvebodakaci, iseTi usiamo gamometyvelebiTsaxeze, rogoricaa sityva... `gavZexi~,da me ki ganze videq, zedmeti, rogorcsityva ̀ maSasadame~...~

zedsarTavi, simboluri feria qali.mis gverdiT zmnaa, arsiT moqmedi, anuracionalurad aqtiuri. da kavSiri,suliereba, calke, ganyenebulia. is veriqneba nawili am gaurkvevlobis, aramed– damswre, mWvreteli da aRmnusxvelisazogado faqtobrivi mocemulobis.srulmniSvnelovan formacvalebadTaSoris, is, damxmarea, formaucvleli.winadadebis sintaqsuri mTlianobidandistanciuri punqtualobiT gany-enebuls asrulebs mZime. rogorcmaigivebeli kavSiri, is alagebs daajamebs zemoT gamoTqmul azrs. maSas-adame, uCens logikur funqciur adg-ils.

Cveni mwerloba yvela droSi gamox-atavda sazogadoebis sulis Zaxils.erovnul xasiaTs. maSinac, roca xalx-is zepirsityvierebad iqmneboda, damaSinac, – roca karis Semoqmedebad.enis wiaRSi gamJRavnebuli msoflmxed-veloba saxelmwifos Zlierebazedayrdnobil pirovnul sulierebasgulisxmobda. erovnuli mTlianobisda Zalmosilebis modeli, rac ba-nalur mcdelobas ki ar, – eris suli-er formulirebul TviTmyofadobasgamoxatavs, Seudareblad naTlad ixs-neba pirvel ZeglebSi: `qarTlad fri-ad qveyana¡ aRiracxebis, romelsacaSina qarTuliTa eniTa Jami Seiwirvis dalocva¡ yoveli aResrulebis~. amavexeliT Senaqmedi nivTieri faseuloba– eklesiebi, monastrebi – amkvidrebenerovnul suls, salocav enas, eriskac-Ta materialuri TanadgomiT gamyare-bul, dakanonebul sulierebas; racbunebrivad iqceva kidec saxelmwifossrulyofilebis dasawyisad Tu sim-bolur xatad. eriskacTa da sasulie-ro pirTa keTil qmedebani ayvavebsklarjeTs, adasturebs qarTul suli-

darejan sumbaZe

miecaT azrobrivi sicocxlisunari-anoba, rac Cemi sferos siRrmiseulganviTarebas gulisxmobda, datvirTu-liyvnen axali SesaZleblobebiT Cemienis morfologiur niadagze. altera-cia iqca simbolod met-naklebobis.sawyisidan cdomilebis. ara. nor-malurobis. Tu bolo cnebas gan-sakuTrebul datvirTvas, anuradikalurs, ar mivaniWebT. mxolod damxolod cnebis gansazogadeblad gam-oviyenebT. cvlilebis, WurWlis, dam-atebiTi miniSnebis, JReris, siCumisdeficitis, umoqmedobis, bekaruli ni-hilizmis. mokled Cemi maSindeli umo-qmedobis Tu sizarma -cis gamo -isobiTTu wyalobiT. es ar iqneba musikaluriminiSneba. aramed rogorc ucxosity-va. damkvidrebuli. leqsikuri erTeu-li. mzardi da mklebi ucocxlesierovnuli niadagidan. ai, ratomacarafers vityvi. sxvagvarad rac emgv-aneboda, melaparaka saganze, masSi siR-rmiseuli wvdomis gareSe. an ubraloddiletantis midgomiT. rac. marTalia,arcTu ise iSviaTia mocemul sazoga-doebaSi, magram isic marTalia, sulacar aris samagaliTo. magaliTad, rocavinme ubiri cdilobs avtoris person-ificirebas, personaJisTvis gasa-

`– aha... da romeli mwerali mog-wonT?

– romeli saaTia klim?~Tu zogadi TvalsazrisiT, maTema-

tika zusti mecnierebaa da alteraciamusikaluri termini mxolod, ukeTesiiqneboda araferi gveTqva meti, mas Sem-deg, rac mimdinare qvewyobili wi-nadadebis bolos mTavar wertils davs-vamdiT. mogviwevda, vyofiliyaviTmdumareni, SeCveulni azrSeuxeb Tanmim-devrobas. erTi sityviT damTavrdebo-da yvelaferi. magram raki unda davuS-vaT, arazogadi TvalsazrisiT,gamonaklisad, sityvaTa yovlisdamtevi azriT warmodgena, sizustidanmivceT cdomilis SesaZlebloba, maSinisini itvirTavdnen bevrad ufro gan-zogadebul mniSvnelobebs. anu zustimecnieruli viwro cnebidan Tu ter-minidan moipovebdnen azris momcavSesaZleblobas. aseT dros aRardagvWirdeboda ucabedi wertilisdasma. an msjeloba logikuri gagr-Zelebis SesaZleblobas moipovebda.xazs vusvam: ara zogadi, – kerZo mniS-vnelobiT.

`es yvelaferi ki daiwyo imiT, romxelmZRvanelma damibara da Tqva: `daamitomac xazgasmuli yuradReba unda

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er, anu erovnul, faseulobad eklesia-monastrebis samkaulebiT. da mas Sem-deg, mere da mere, qarTuli Zala,erovnuli metyveleba, arc meti da arcnaklebi, zustad imdens aiwonis, rac amor mxares – materialurs da suliers– esabameba. es qmediTi harmonia sa-zogadoebis Sesabamis saxes gana-pirobebs. Sesabamisad, konkretuldros is iseTad warmoCindeba, ra do-zebiTac nawildeba erT mTlianobad.da qarTuli mwerloba yvela epoqaSixmovandeba sulis Zaxilad. is pirovnu-li wesierebiT asaxavs yvela mis dRevan-del dRes. ra brali unda miuZRvodes,Tu yvela misi Sesabamisi dRevandelo-ba pirvelsaxea (danarCeni: manerulietiketia, formalobaTa sistemaa, ar-sebiTisgan yovlad daclili).

iq ki, dRevandelobaSi, mudam ariskoliziur-ambivalentur emociaTamomcavi winaaRmdegoba. demonisa daangelozis metnaklebi pirobiToba. esmeryeobs xelovanis arsebaSic (`galak-tionSi aris demoni da CemSi ufro an-gelozia~). magram vin axdens saxelde-bas, vin arqmevs erTs, anac – meores.qristianulma miTologiam erTsax-ovnad `eSmad~ Semosa antikuri miTo-surobiT saxeldebuli keTili an avisuli. aseTi kerZo saxeldebis miRmamudam arsebobs sagnis individualuriarsi, xelovnebis kerZo mcdeloba xe-laxali samyaros qmnisa, sakuTari gzasinaTlis Ziebisa. orTodoqsi Tval-sazrisiT, mkrexelobad saxeldebulisiTavxede. an ki rogor SeiZlebodaerTsaxovnad gaxsnoda gza ukideganoTavisuflebis mqadagebel `vefx-istyaosans~, rac erTgvarad qarT-velisTvis bibliuri rwmenis wignadqceuliyo, zogadadamianuri SesaZle-beli simaRlidan, gacdenili re-ligiur kerZo dogmatebs. saxelmwiforeligiis sazriss miRma darCenili, isgaumxelel uaryofas igulisxmebdasagnis, romelic sakuTar TavSi re-ligiur WeSmaritebad aRmatebul azrsatarebda. da sruliad bunebrivia misiyvela uZvelesi xelnaweris pirisaganmiwisa aRgva.

demonisa da angelozis pirobiTisaxeldebebi iseTive gansasjelia,rogorc codvilis an ucodvelis mc-nebebi. rogorc. Seuvali sferoebi re-ligiis rwmenis arsamde miuwvdomelifanatizmisTvis, visTvisac ufro gan-sasjelia, vidre gasaazrebeli: ra ga-nasxvaves erTmaneTisgan; sicocx-lisTvis sikeTiT Seqmnil samyaroSiaraferia erTsaxovnad `kargi~ an`cudi~. miT ufro Semoqmedi sulisTvis– mudam atarebs Tavis TavSi demonursda angelozursac. zRvardaudebels.ufro raRac gansakuTrebuls. urom-lisodac umoqmedo procesi ar dgas.yvela qmedeba, yvela svla, rasacsulierebis teni axlavs, siwrfele ax-lavs, sicocxlisunariania, is ver iqne-ba ganwiruli.

miT ufro, Tu es Sinagani mdgomare-oba erTsaxovnad Semoqmedi sagnis mx-olod qmnas ar gulisxmobs. ra Tqmaunda, es formaluri mxarea misi, magramaqac qcevis faqtori umTavresia, isSinagani ganwyobaa. amitom poets niS-navs van gogic, firosmanic, javaxiS-vilic, aludac, an cnebisgan metadganyenebuli realuri Tu mogonilixasiaTi, azris ubralo matarebeli Si-nagani mdgomareoba. es aris azrisanalogi, rasac akaki xinTibiZe nawar-moebis formasa da Sinaarsze msjelo-bisas aviTarebs, rom teqstebis poet-urobas Sinaarsi da emocia gan-sazRvravs metad mis formaze. aq ki ve-rasdros avcdebiT yofiT realobas,konkretuli emociis gamomwvev dros,rac sicocxlis unariT avsebs Semoq-medis organul kavSirs awmyos yofnas-Tan. iwvevs epoqis saxasiaTo midgomebs,avlens adamianur morig sulier Sesa-Zleblobas.

amitomac araferia udroo an Seu-sabamo, adamianur emociad gadaqcevisSesaZlebloba rasac mieca. cxovrebam

rac asazrdova. ai, aseT dros liter-atura gamoxatvis mxolod formaa. Si-naarsi – realoba, romelzec dgas fiz-ikuri emociuri arseboba. is veras-dros iqneba srulad ganyenebuli,aramed – misgan davalebuli. – ̀ eh, kar-gi iyo oxeri...~ – `ra – sicocxle Tuliteratura...~ – ̀ da gana sul erTi ariyo?~

aq nihilizmic TavisTavad arafersniSnavs, roca jansaRi faseulobis –siyvarulis da humanurobis – fonzeCndeba. roca cru faseuloba da fsev-do keTilTa -Sobileba eufleba so-cialur yofas, atans da gaevrcobaarsebobis mocemulobad. roca irgv-liv siyvarulze farisevlobametyvelebs, is TavisTavad arafers ni-Snavs. is xdeba rogorc Tavdacva,rogorc Tavis daRwevis saSualeba siy-albisgan, Ralatisgan, Zaladobisgan.rasac ar unda Seerios. rasac vidreSeereodes, mWvreteli maxvilgoniere-biT unda Sexedos. mogvianebiT es epo-qis gamocdilebad unda iqces. sinoni-mad Tavdacvisa Tu gadarCenis. mTavar-ia ris gadarCenas axerxeb. ras upiri-spireb. araferSi gadasarCeni arcaraferi iqneboda. yvela sityvis yve-la mcdeloba bunebrivi pasuxia yvelaimedgacruebaze, ZmisTvis Ralatze,rogorc rwmenis, RmerTis sikvdilis(kinetikur da potenciur energetikulbalanss gavs gancda Zirs davardnili(TiTqos) qvis gulSi).

Tumca es ukve poeziaa, axali rwme-na, uRalato RmerTis Zieba. ubralodadamianuri ideali, kulturuli gare-mo, sazogadoeba. anu sawyis sikeTesTandabrunebis survili Tu gamosavali.rac im kacisTvis, literatura romuyvarda, literaturis gzaa, vin-mesTvis – musikis an ferebis anfilosofiis, xelovnebis sasurvelTandabrunebis rogorc mcdelobis.

bunebrivia, am movlenas sociumiarasworad gaigebs. Tu. jaWvismocemul rgols mTlianobad, sruly-ofilebad gaiazrebs da ara rogorcnawils, rogorc gagrZelebas. maTgansda ar ikiTxavs. ratom. Cndeba saWiroes indiferentuloba. es sicive. gaba-Tilebis aryofnis forma. simbolu-rad. simetriulad. bemolis niSnad (bo-los da bolos sakiTxi dgeba, arsebi-Tad sad gadis zRvari ambis faqtobrivmxaresa da mTxrobelis interpreta-cias Soris. miT ufro. Tu mTxrobeliayvela – rigiTi, individi, Tvalis-momkvreli, moazrovne. vin gaigebs si-tyvas sityva, Tu erTi marTlac zus-tad erTs udris. es midgomebi istori-uli faqtobrivi analizis unarsaCenen; Tavis mxriv, msgavs midgomebsganazogadeben; rogorc istoriul am-bebs, rac arsebiTad azris SigniT Seu-sabamo cdomilebiT enis wiaRSi paron-imul mniSvnelobaTa umniSvnelo cdom-

ilebiT Sesabamisobad moiazrebian.is, rac metad dokumentalistikis

ki ar. (viqnebodi eTikuri da mis paron-imul formas ar moviyvandi, magali-Tad) ris sferoc umetesadaa. es Cemibrali ar aris. es. enis SesaZleblobaa– atrofiis gamomwvevi paronimuliSesatyvisobis. Torem, aSkarad, xe-lovneba gulisxmobs kidec dokumen-talistikis raRac niuanss, roca nam-dvili emociiT sakuTari arsebobisepoqis suls imeorebs sakuTar TavSi.

vTqvaT, ̀ biZia Tomas qoxi~ saukuniswin epoqaSi roca Seiqmna, iTvlebodaprogresad, rogorc modernistulimovlena kinos Sesabamis realobaSi.dRes risi kalkic, meqanikuri gameore-bac, udaoa, anaqronizmad CaiTvleba. esxelovnebis realobaa, Semoqmedi ge-movnebis gansazRvrulobiT. Tumcakaris xelovneba, karis propagandis-toba, karis JamTaaRmwerloba dResiseve azrdaclilia siaxlisgan. araris realobis faqti, xelovnebis faq-ti – miT ufro.

es kerZo jgufis subieqtur-propa-gandistuli mcdeloba, erT-erTi mx-are mTlianobis sinamdvilisa, ver Se-qmnis zogad warmodgenas, vinaidan Ta-vadaa kerZo jgufis mcdeloba,rogorc misi pirveli analogebi: saek-lesio pirTa mier Cawerili ag-iografiuli Janris mxatvrul-doku-menturi prozis nimuSebi, leonti mrov-elis mier Cawerili (Tu gadawerili)`qarTlis cxovrebis~ Txzulebebi damefeTa istorikosTa mier naweri isto-riebi, ris mxolod da mxolod amaracTanamedrovis warmodgena aris isevetendenciuri, rogorc Tavad imjgufis TvaliT danaxuli reloba, vincTavad qmnis, avtoria im istoriis. espozicia ver iqneba utendencio. amit-om azri, realobaSi piruTvneli, isto-riuli Sefasebis, miT ufro, sadacmonawileob, absurdia da mxolod –TavisgamarTleba, ra Tqma unda, Tu essadme vinmes Wirdeba.

da Tuki, karis JamTaaRmwerlisvali aris: ar SeniSnos, kargad SeniR-bos, rogor Txrian Tvalebs SeTqmulnigaZevebul taxtis memkvidres, demeufliswuls, mefe giorgis mxolodSo-bili asulis taxtze asayvanad. es is-toriul Seumcdar gzad Seiracxeba. esar unda SeimCnios Tamar mefis karisJamTaaRmwerelma. faqtia, roca sta-tikur droSi xdeba ambavi. Tumca, va-caloT, dro sakuTari udieri siTa-mamiT gansjis arsebuls, miuCens adg-ils.

ra Tqma unda, es ar afasebs vinmesyofnis, mikuTvnebis wess. miT ufro, Tuaq mTavari winadadebis SemasmenliTnaTqvami azri `dafasebas~ ver ig-ulisxmebs, da miT udro – `gadafase-bas~.

Sevecade warmodgeniT koliziuri

saxeebisa da movlenebis, rac cxovreb-is mdinarebidan iRebs saTaves, da racbolos literaturis sagnad iqceva,literaturul process irqmevs, Sen-Tan erTad kvalSi vdgomodi. Tuki sawy-isi namdviloba – sapirispiro mis-wrafebaTa, cvalebadi Crdilisa da si-naTlis ZaliT konturebis gamo-sakveTad, interesTa erToblioba – qm-nis sabolood niadags, razec aR-mocendeba xelovnebis sagani, da amkonkretul SemTxvevaSi literatura,ris arsSi wvdomas (Tu ara, wvdomismcdelobas mainc) yvela Taobis go-nieri Semoqmedi erTgvarad cdilobs.maTiT iqmneba literatura, erovnulisulieri gamocdileba, istoria.

cxovreba pirobiTobebis jamia.mere beds varqmevT xolme. ver gaigeb,sad moxvdebi, ZalTa gadanawileba visaRmoaCens Sen irgvliv – bedad, unebli-eT – adamianTa ra tips, an ra katego-rias; gaumarTlebT Tu ara Sens ax-loblebs, visac realurad daeyrdno-bodi, SesaZlebeli rom yofiliyo. ua-mravi Tanmimdevruli SemTxveviTobisSedegad xdeba is aseTi. swored. da is.veranairad iqneboda sxvagvari.rogorc. sityvebis es Tanmimdevrobasulac araa SemTxveviTi. rasac emoci-uri Tu, arsebiT-situaciuri faq-torebi zustad im rigiT alageben, gan-sazRvruli TanmimdevrobiT. amas xelsrogor SeuSlidi! es TavisTavadgulisxmobs kidec sityvis im azrispirobiTobas, rasac yvela `Tanamed-rove~ atarebs. roca, an ki ra aris Tan-amedrove. Tana(c,) medroveobasTanufro axlos ratom aris Seqspirzemetad, vTqvaT, vinme kale (momitevosukanasknelis saxelma, sxva araferi,galaktionis SesaZlebeli azris in-terpretirebas Tu vaxden mxolod). ismudam Tavis adgilzea. Sesabamisad naw-ildeba. da zogjer Tu gvwvdeba xmaSori, qronologiis TvaluwvdeneliZveli gzidan, Tu xmovandeba Cvens un-amdviles dReis yofnaSi, rogor undaiyos udroo, anda araTanamedrove.roca masze amdens vfiqrobT; misiTvsunTqavT, misiT varsebobT. an ra upi-ratesobas flobern isini, vinc vergamxdara yuradRebis Cveni Rirsi, Cve-ni sagani. da mere ra, rom pirobiTobisjamma: cxovrebam, nacnobTa wrem,garemocvam (raSic udaod, raSic mis-dauneburad gaumarTla) ametapisuzrunveli yofna arguna. mTavariavinmesTvis iqces es yofna ise mniS-vnelovani, rom sakuTari sicocxlisdros inaxavdes gardasul xsovnas,emociebs, qceuls sityvebad.nafiqrals, rac isevea Tanamedrove,rogorc masze fiqris survili. ai, radros kargavs sityva zedapirul for-malobas, is iqceva arsebiTad mniS-vnelovani. SemTxveviTobis droebiTi

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pativiT ki ar, – sicocxlis unariano-bis sakuTari SesaZleblobis amara. mx-olod.

Tema, romelic xelovnebis sagnadiqceva, aqtualuria. miuxedavad,rogori interpretaciac ar unda eZ-leodes. is amJRavnebs zogad Tematurinteresebs sazogadoebaTa jgufebismxridan, rac TavisTavad analogiamovlenisa, partsabWoel agitatorTamcdelobisa, gamoewviaT sityvieri in-teresi proletarul masebSi, anu: aseSeevsoT mwerkavSiris (friad)rigebigegmiurad. xuTwledebiT. gansazRvru-li proletmwerlebiT. vinc SesabamisenTuziazms ar dazogavda Tematuriciklis nimuSTa Sesaqmnelad. ai,rogori niWierebiT ivsebodamwer(l)uri anTologiebi, kvireulebifriad Temebze: Wadze, simindze, len-inze anu kombainze. rogorc drois Se-saba -mis mocemul aqtualobaze. racyvela droSi sazogado interesiskonkretuli jgufis (Tavis) tkivilixdeba.

da xdeba xatis simbolod qceva,gasagneba, koncentrireba. rac gan-sazRvravs moarul mizezs sagnissakralizaciis. misi gaidealebis.swored saerTo idealebi qmnianTaobebs sulieri istoriisTvis. anujgufebs asakobrivi da droiTi cenzisgareSe. da rac am dros umTavresia,Temas erTgvari kulturuli saxe eZl-eva. es sazogado niSania. jgufebi amgzas Tavs ver aRweven. mere da mere in-ercia marTavs maT (win) svlas. Tumcavin icis win Tu piriqiT. mokled: svlasmarTavs. es ar niSnavs SecdomaSi Sesv-las. an misgan Tavis (Tavad) aridebas.es inercias niSnavs cxvrebis gulgrilsvlas kldisken. Tumca iqneb arcgagvewira. gveTqva: cxvrebis ubralodenas.

aSkaraa, mwerlis niWi mxolod situ-aciur da realobis Wvretis unars argulisxmobs. aramed – enis stilurTaviseburebasac da moxdenil Tu STam-beWdavad dauviwyar saxeTa qmnasac, an-alizis Tu dakvirvebis maxvil unar-sac. Torem rac Cans, xom yvela xedavs.sxvanairad, baraTaSvilis Tanamed-roved arasdros gvemaxsovrebodaardazianis arseboba. liberali aznau-ris msoflmxedvelobis kacisa, vincironiuli maxvilgonierebiT qmnisisakiC mejRanuaSvilis STambeWdav sax-es, romlis winaSec uZluria tradici-ac, fermkrTali sisxlic, idealebsmidevnebuli, daxvewili manerulobac.is realuri drois gmiria.

`oo, ra siamovnebiT gamovamwyvdev-di loTebs Cems karcer-luqsSi, rad-gan Tavisuflebisadmi garkveuli mis-wrafeba aqvT. imaT ki msxvil-msxvilvaWrebs mivayolebdi, patara vaWru-kanebs ki ara, aramed msxvilebs, msx-vilebs, da Tu iciT, ratom? ah, rarigmiyvars isini, da rogori gulSematki-vari var maTi, Tqven xom ar iciT. numigaCniaT isini bednierebad, da racmTavaria, Zvirfasebo, nu gSurT imaTi_ rac ar unda maRla aswion cxviri,ragind Tavxedni da gabRenZilni iyvnen,mainc yoveli dRe CaSxamdebaT xolme,radgan dawolisas, daZinebamde, ariserTi raRac patara, gardamavali wami,roca sakuTari Tavi yvelam viciT...~

bunebrivia, es aSkarad TvalSisace-mi movlena iyo. Tu vTqvaT: roca mwer-lis kalami imaxsovrebs, movlena Tval-Sisacemi xdeba. TaobebisTvis erTi daori saukunis merec da merec. sxvagvar-ad Zneli iqneboda gvelaparaka epoqisanalogiebze, rac sakuTar wiaRSimudam imeorebs genetikur xasiaTebsaxal da axal pirobebSi. egaa mxolod,unda SeniSno, Seusabamo. sxvagvaradiqneb umniSvneloc yofiliyo sadRacmecxrametes, lamis ori saukunis wina,vinme lavrenti ardazianis, vinme gior-gi erisTavis mwerluri yofna, rogorcliteraturuli movlenisa. raki maTSeqmnes drois ukvdavi saxeebi. ai,ratomac arasdrosaa umniSvnelo sag-azeTo publicisturi Canaweric ki.

rac sakuTar kulturul Tu liter-aturul procesebs qmnis. es erTgvaritradicia Tu mexsiereba, erTad, saSu-alebaa: dRevandelobis realur yof-nas azri mieces. axsna mieces. da -em-yaros sasurvel wesrigs.

da dReisobiT, Cven manamde vila-parakebT samoqalaqo sazogado defi-citebze, arsebiTad mentaluri midg-omebi sanam ucvleli darCebian. sanammikirtun gaspariC trdatovebis andasolomon isakiC mejRanuaSvilebisdamokidebulebiT ilaparakeben adami-anebi kulturis saxeliT. ̀ sanam ̀ Svlisnukris naambobis~ kiTxvisas Svlis mw-vadi ki ar gaaxsendebaT, aramed sulsxva ram, ufro mTavari...~

Tu aseTi humanuri an evropisken gzaesaxebaT, aSkaraa, es sxvaevropa Sorsaawarmodgenilisgan. is Sesaba -mis samo-qalaqo azrovnebas -esabameba.

am fonze, yvela kavSiris miRma, mw-erals Wirdeba avtonomia, Seuvalobasxvaze metad. ar iyos damokidebuli.es principi saxelmwifo centralize-bis analogia. marTavda im mweralTakavSirs, sadac RmerTma Tu icoda, ra

rogorc ar unda uWirdes mwerals, ma-terialurad Tu damokidebulebiT,dRes deficits ukve arsad warmoadgenskalami da sufTa furceli. roca ar-sebobs neba, riTic literatura Seiqm-neba. danarCeni sabazro ekonomikaa,reklamaa, saCvenebeli biznesia. da nak-lebi literatura. literatura, mi-uxedavad yvelafrisa, Seiqmneba damkiTxveli bolos da bolos miagnebsmas.

is, rom mwerali ver iarsebebs Semo-savlis amara, rasac literatura mou-tans dRes Cvens qveyanaSi, pirdapir-proporciulia am qveynis socialur-mentaluri donis cifruli maCveneb-lis, warmodgenili samoqalaqo sa-zogadoebisa, sadac bazari ar Wirde-ba mwerals. bazars Wirdeba mwerlisproduqti – literatura. am niadagzezemoT naxseneb personaJTa person-aluri yofna axal, sasicocxlo un-arebs iZens.

Tu ̀ yoveli normaluri moTxrobiswakiTxvis Semdeg xdebi odnav ukeTesi,vidre xar...~

is gvaswavlis da Segvaxsenebs safuZ-

alteracia _ socialuri sabazro politika da(Tanamedrove) literatura.Tu ̀ romeli saaTia, klim?~

darejan sumbaZe

saerTo kriteriumebi aerTianebdaerTs da yvela danarCens. magram rakimsgavs epoqaSi sistemurobas Zneliaascde, unda ecado mainc, rogorme Sein-arCuno TviTmyofadoba.

es erTgvari kulturuli fenomeni,rac TavisTavad xelovnebis komer-cializaciisken swrafvas gulisxmobs,qmnis masobrivi kulturis bazars,axdens arnaxul tiraJirebas gayidva-di da mogebadi produqtis (zogjerliteraturis). is aSkarad unda akmay-ofilebdes momxmarebeli masis zogadinteress, mis saSualo ariTmetikulswarmoadgendes.

ai, aseTi koliziuri procesebi (re-aluris da warmodgenilis) qmniancocxal literaturas. romelicrogor ascdeba misi epoqis suls, mSo-bel niadags realobis dinamikaSi,roca kidev ufro Znelia aRmoaCinoerTdroulad momgebianic, azrianic.Tumca pirveli, komerciuli sferosproblema metadaa. meores ki, – azri-ani literaturis povnas, mkiTxveli,ase Tu ise, mudam axerxebs. bunebrivia.Tu mkiTxveli umravlesobas ar niSnavsaq da saerTodac. es misi post -modern-istuli midgomaa. teqstobrivi sagn-isadmi, mwerlobisadmi.

literaturis qmnas bazarTan zus-tad iseTi kavSiri aqvs, rogorc saba-zro ekonomikur politikasSTagonebasTan. anu is mainc Seiqmneba.

vlianad daviwyebuls. da es aris lit-eraturis yvelaze ufro keTilSobiliazric, unaric. bolos da bolosfiqris gzaze mdgari humanurisa damdgari profesionalis Tanxvedra qvey-nis sasurveli momavalia. vinmesTvisiqneb evrointegracia an dapirebulisasufeveli, magram ara utopia. ̀ Txa damgeli erTad~ sadac Zovs – Cvens suli-er istorias ukve gadaxda, anu SesaZle-belia. es gamoricxavs Zaladobas, um-ciresobaTa mimarT fobiebs, an fana-tikur da dogmatur sworxazovnebas.qristianoba Semoqmedi rwmenaa, racicocxlebs mudam, TavisTavSi ganvi-Tarebad axal sikeTes igulisxmebs daarasgziT saxeebis da cnebebis dogmat-irebas. ̀ saxis yovlisa tanis~ mier Semo-qmedi xelovneba safuZvelSi sinaTleada SeTanxmeba eris da beris, ori xelis,sulis da xorcis erTarsia. bolos dabolos sasurveli momavalia da is Semo-qmedebiT yofnas gulisxmobs, ki argamoricxavs. es alagebs ambavssawyisTan, sityvas – umTavres mniS-vnelobasTan; sadac bazari xelovneb-is principebs ki ar akanonebs, – sxvagzas uxsnis SesaZleblobas; an saleqsoterfis zomas ki ar afasebs yasabi, –yasbobs; mepure purs acxobs; brZeni –brZenmetyvelebs; gamomcemeli wignsgamoscems; mwerali – wers.gaurTulebel idiomur mocemulobad:`ZaRli yefs, qaravani midis~.

xoda, ukve mogiyevi Cems arasrulmusikalur ganaTlebaze, Sesabamis imdeficitze, msazRvrelis erTgvar ko-mpozitad qcevis mizezad uaryofiTinawilaki rom gadaiqca, Torem iqnebmarTlac sruli rom yofiliyo(musikaluri ganaTleba), arafersacmogiyvebodiT. vijdebodi sadme, ase(savaraudod), zomierad myudro oTax-Si da yofisgan mobezrebul dros TavsSeviqcevdi bramsis natifi sonetebisgamusikebiT. rac, rogor ar damamun-jebda. anda ena rogor momcemda saSu-alebas, melaparaka. anda rames rogorvityodi. es Seqmnida sruliad sxvamocemulobas. magram msgavsi SemTxvev-iTi rgoli raki gamoiricxa, myobadiswris xolmeobiTi mwkrivis varauds (sam-wuxarod) veRar gavcdebiT. anu: momiw-evs gavagrZelo. yofiliyos TiTqossmeniT danaxuli literatura, andaTvaliT danaxuli musika TiTqos.

amboben, roca garkveuli aRqmiskari daketilia, gza exsneba sxva Seg-rZnebiT mocemulobas. es erTgvarikoncentrireba intensiurad xsnis sxvamxares. vfiqrob, joisis bgeraTa aRq -

mis ucnauroba misi xedviTi defic-itiT aixsneba, beThovenis xmaTa sisavse– misi smeniTi deficitiT. anu, ena ar-sebiTad gamoxatavs Tavis Tavs, sadacgamoxatvis sxva faqtorebi uZluria.SegveZlo, Tema gagvevrco kidec. miTufro Tu am enaze gamoxatvis sityvieriSesaZlebloba mogvecemoda:

ena, rogorc ara mxolod saxli,aramed – emociebis Seni samosi. is ram-denad momxiblavia, ucnauri, yuris(Tvalis) momWreli, basri. natifi. Seniunaria. rogor Semose. autaneliemocia. Seni cxovreba. ramdenad dam-aintrigebeli. saintereso. mimzidvelisaxiT warmoCnda. ena Seni materiaa.masala. Weri. saxli. samSoblo. TviT.myofadobis niSani. saxe. saxelmwifo.arsebobis niSan-wyali. okeane. sruli-ad mTeli dedamiwis kuTvnileba. is SensxelSi ndobis saSualebaa. maTTvisac,vinc masze jer kidev ar laparakobs.Tumca visTvisac nacnobia emociis ga-momwvevi upirvelesi misi atomi. is yve-la smenas sakuTar Tavs miaCvevs. is.sametyvelo saxlad iqceva. mogvianebiTemociebis Sesamoselad. momxibvle-lad. ucnaurad. yuris (Tvalis) mom-Wrelad. basrad. natifad. gauZlisi.Cemi cxovrebis sulisSemZvrel mimzid-velobad. rom is iqces dasayrdenad.Werad. saxlad. saxelmwifod. rom Cemidro. Cemi ena. ucxo yuris samSoblodiqces.

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kacoo..._ kacoo, Seni naTeli sulis Wir-

imeo, Seni saiqios mzisa da mTvarisao,Seni saflavis Rruvisao, Seni mandau-ri alagisao, Seni Cauxreli muxlisao,Seni ZarRviani xelebisao, aki dadgnenda maisvenes kidecao, Seni pirisferisaxisao, Seni lataniviT tanisao; _latani rogoriRa aris meTqi da kox-tao!

martoka darCa saxlSi da aba, tir-ils vinRa dauSlida?! ormoci dRe daormoci Rame iglova qmari. mistiro-da imis axal saval gzas. exveweboda: _erTxel kidev damenaxe, genacvaleo.ormoci dRis Semdeg SeuCdnen Svile-bi: _ dedi, aq gagiWirdeba marto yof-na, Tan zamTari modis, wamodi qalaqSi,gadaizamTros da mere ukan Camogiy-vanT sofelSio. _ arao! _ gajiutdaqali, _ kacma miTxra, kari ar gamoke-too, sinaTle ar gamiqroo, cecxli armiminavloo, ar gadaikargo qalaqSiSvilebTanao, upatronod ar damigdomonagario da maS, ra vqnao, imis azrsvenacvaleo, imis sityvas venacvaleo,imis Sekrul warbebsa da fiqrianTvalebsao! Svilebi rom verafersgaxdnen SviliSvilebi miugzavnes: _bebii, bebii, wamo raao, _ gamoswiesyeli fumfula TiTebiT misma gvritmaSviliSvilebma da uari veRar uTxramaT, miugurgura: _ agremc babo da-genacvloTo. magram sanam qalaqSi wav-idoda, morCa saSemodgomo samuSaoebs,bostani daamuSava, xaxvi da niori daTe-sa windawin, dasabinavebeli daabinava,erTaderTi Zroxa gayida, cxra qaTamida boTa ZaRli mezobels Caabara, moix-via Tavze Savi qaSmiri, nikapTan gain-askva, saxlisa da marnis karebi gamoke-ta, gasaRebi gazis balonis qveS amodo,WiSkars didi boqlomi daado, erTxelkidev dardianad gadaavlo TvaliTavis najafar midamos da gahyva qalaq-Si Svilebs. pirvel dReebSi TiTqosgaixara kidec Svilebis saxleulobi-Ta da gawyobili ojaxebiT, magram dar-dis Wia ara da ar eSveboda, yovel Rameesizmreboda sofeli. yovel diliT kinamtiralevi TvalebiTa xvdebodaoTaxSi Sesul rZals: _ ra vqna, Svilo,medardeba, Sen genacvaleo, menaRvle-ba Cemi saxl-karisao, kacma miTxranaRverdali ar gamicioo da abao, mekide aqa vskupivaro. rac qmari avadgauxda da sawolad Cavarda, isedacmaRali wnevis patrons, sul gadaaviw-yda Tavisi wneva, ise iyo Tavis qmarzegadagebuli, arc wamali axsovda daarc wnevis sazomi aparati. _ ojaxisTavxe meqceva da ra drois Cemi wnev-isaao. imitomac iyo, rom ramdenimedRis Semdeg rZalma xeli Zlivs SeaS-vela, jer xel-fexi waerTva, mere ena,reanimobiliT gadaiyvanes qalaqis saa-vadmyofoSi. TiTqos gamobrunebispiri uCanda, mnaxvelebs scnobda,laparakiT vera, magram xelebs gaSli-da da mere gulze daidebda, aniSnebdayvelas _ ai, am gulSi myavxarTo. imRamiT TiTqos araferi, magram gamTe-niisas gaaRviZes saavadmyofos fan-jaraSi Semofrenilma angelozebma.

gazafxulze sicocxlisfrad bib-inebda misi bostani...

TalxoTalxos Talxuji erqva srulad,

papamisis papis saxeli. dediserTa iyobiWi, dedisSvila, dedisimeda. magrammxolod dedas ki ara, mTel sofelshqonda misi imedi.

_ Talxo, maita, SeSis motanaSi miS-veleo...

_ Talxo, wamo, saTibad gamyeo..._ Talxo, vilisi talaxSi Camivar-

da, gaswi, amamayvanineo..._ Talxo, ymawvili avaT ari, ariqa,

eqimio..._ Talxo, age, xalxa, xeze adi, gen-

acvale, kaklis dabertyvaSi damexmar-eo...

_ Talxo, karebi daguleo..._ Talxo, isao, Talxo esao...mxolod qvevris garecxvaSi ver ex-

mareboda verc Tavisebs da verc me-zoblebs, ver eteoda qvevrSi da raeqna?! _ Se deverxanav, devikbilav,

devimxarbeWav... siyvaruliT miaZaxebd-nen xolme birJaze Camomsxdari sof-lis papebi. yvela da yvelaferi uyvar-da Talxos: balaxic, qvac, xec, foTol-ic, miwac, miwidan amoyelyelavebuliWiayelebic da Tavis oTxmocdaaT welsgadacilebuli bebiac. SexsnidaWiSkars, Sevardeboda ezoSi zrialiT,Rrial-RrialiT, siyvaruliT gaaden-da bdRvirs iqaurobas. Tu ezoSi Tvalsmohkravda marTa bebias, daeZgerebodafexebSi, aitatebda Rrublebs zeiT,daabzrialebda erTjer an orjer: _hoi, Talxoo, hoi, hoi, Sviloo, Cemi si-beris reti ara myofnis, Senc ro mi-matebo?! mxrebiT dahqonda mTebi Tugormaxebi, gul-mkerdiT _ zvrebi Tuxodabunebi, beWebiT _ mindvrebi Tutramalebi... dadioda, datortmanebda,miwasa sZravda, cas swvdeboda, varskv-lavebsa da mzes scdeboda es CveniTalxo. erTxel qalaqSi waiyvanes, gul-ma daawuxao. fexze dadga didi da pat-ara. ambavi Camoitanes, paTologiaao,ori guli aqvso, gamonaklisiao, iSvia-Tiao... _ paTologia ara, miTolo-giao,_ sicilad ar eyo Talxos. _ ege,erT gulSi ro ver meteviT, meoreguli imiTvina maq, yvelani ro Cagi-tioTo. _ i, Sen ki ar iyav, Se mamaZaR-lo Sena, maS kolas xipriwana gogoromel gulSi gizis icio? _ aba, aba,akauka laparaki nu iciTo, miaCuma sof-lis piri metyeve kolam. mas Semdeg arcundoda Talxos xseneba. _ gogov, TukiSenad gegulebi, gamamyeo! _ SuaRamis-as miadga Talxo metyeve kolas gogosfanjaras. Tan Zirianad daTxrili ziz-ilebi miutana: _ codoa, ro momewyvi-ta, gaxmebodnen da Tu gamomyvebi, Cven-sa CavrgoTo. gogom gauRima, wuTSiSekra Tavisi flas-fulasebi da gad-moZvra fanjridan. mas Semdeg tyeSiSeSaze midioda Talxo, saTibad TubaRCis boloSi, sadac ki lamaz yvavilsdainaxavda fesvianad, frTxilad iReb-da miwidan da xelis kankaliT mihqon-da Tavis gogosTan. maT ezoSi nair-nai-ri yvavili xarobda. erTxelac fexidaucda Talxos, CamoiSala kldidanqvao da suli miwamde ver miitana sa-bralo biWma. kolas gogom Savi kaba romCaicva, arc gauxdia, magram yoveldiliT mis kabaze yvaodnen wvril-wvrili zizilebi. SuaRamemdeuRaRanebda mere kabis Talxi kalTebi._ e ra ari, darisxos Wirma, egeTiaraferi gvinaxiao! _ iZaxda amis Se-myure xalxi.

roca deda xarroca deda xar, RameSi ramdenjer-

me unda wamofeTde. yuri miado Cvilsslikina loyaze da misi sunTqvis rit-miT mixvde, ra esizmreba; Jrunia TuSavTvaleba Svilis sizmari. sabnisbablebi, baliSis piri anda zewarigagiyviTlos bavSvis tuCebis kuTxidanan nikapidan Camogorebulma rZis wveT-ebma, recxo da xarSo TeTreuli, vergaaTeTro!.. da roca dila avardeba,

rogorc siTeTre Seni tanidan, SencfrTxilad unda gadmoabijo mZinareqmars da oTaxi fexakrefiT gamoiaro.Tma daivarcxno _ Camoibertyo mxre-bidan yvavilis mtveri, xel-piridaibano _ gagivides vardebis wveni,ZuZuebi Tbili wyliT Camoibano _taStSi dagidges TeTri gube. mere sax-li xan mialago, xan auTao, xan gadafer-Txo... gaxvide ezoSi da terfebqveS iserbili geCvenos Seni ezos miwa, rogorcCvilis yiflibandi da koWebze Sexe-bulma nakrteniviT amoRinRlulmanamianma balaxma gagaJrialos. baRCisboloSi ipovo jer kidev cvarSeumSra-li babuawvera, moagrovo misi foTle-bi, qmar-Svili rom ar gaaRviZo, saxlisukan waiRo da rodinSi danayo, gawuro,moayaro marili da naxevari saaTi daay-eno. gaurio limonis wveni, Saqari anTafli da sva naxevar-naxevari Wiqa,rZis Casadgomad, dReSi orjer, dila-saRamos. xom giTxari, roca deda xar,RameSi ramdenjerme unda wamofeTde-meTqi, moZebno Cvilis vaSl-atamasav-iT priala loya, cxviri miado... magramTuki ver ipovne Svilis loya da gagax-senda, rom aRar gyavs, sawolidan maS-inve unda wamodge da gaiboto, califexi _ saaqaos, cali fexi _ saiqiosCaadga da ise xmamaRla daiZaxo, romSeni mZinare qmaric wamoaxtuno: _eheii, emand balRi aravin SemiSinoT, nugeSinia, aqa vdgavar deda genacvalosda giiyureeb!..

murakaSavi, muraka biWi iyo. sqeli, xveu-

li Tma edo Tavze, misdRemSi savarcx-elmiukarebeli. Tvalebic Savi ferisahqonda, Robis ZirSi mayvali rom gvim-wifs iseTive msxvili da briala. Tusadme raime Savdeboda misi xelis am-bavi iyo: sawolqveS Tafli da kara-qiani puris miwebebac, daukiTxavadaRebuli samarTebliT TiTebis daser-vac, ezoSi qaTmebis dawiokeba-dafrTx-obac, mawvnis qilebis damtvrevac, me-zoblis Robeze jer umwifari Wermismosaparad gadaZromac, SurduliTCitebis devnac, katebis wvalebac, fex-burTis TamaSis dros Cxubic, fi-dosTvis qvis srolac da Tavis gatex-vac, velosipediT xokiaanT seridanswrafad daSveba da kidev aTasi ram, racme ar vici. _ Svilo, erTi xanoba mdi-naris wyalic dadgeba xolme, Camais-venebs, Sen ra xar egeTio _ gauwyrebo-da xolme bebia, magram rodis usmenda?!xan papamisis joxze iyo gadamjdari da`daaWenebda~, mere joxs sadRacmiagdebda , papas ki ara, eSmaksac uWir-da im joxis povna. xan daiWerda bayayebsda miliviT wvrili balaxis ReroTiCaberavda xolme, tbis piras sacoda-vad dagoravdnen gaberili bayayebi.didi Tarsi da xifaTiani bavSvi iyo man-am, sanam ar gadawyvites, moenaTlaT: _iqneba mironma daaSoSminos, dedobagauwios mfarvelma angelozmao.

naTlisReba dRes Caawyo kalaTSi bebi-amisma gulianebi, Taflakverebi, nuSisnamcxvrebi, CurCxelebi, Txili, kakali,leRvisa Ciri da alublis muraba.TeTri, gaxamebuli Cais tilo gadaa-fara, mere murakas miubrunda, `Si-fanerkidan~ sagareo tansacmeli gad-moulaga. uWirda biWis movla, magramra eqna, obol biWs mzrunvelobas xomver moaklebda. xilabandwakrulidafanfalebda bebia coqala, xvneSiTada vai-viSiT dasdevda ukan muraka biWs.mama dosiTe muxlamde idga yinul-Camtvreul mdinareSi da xalxs naT-lavda. sixaruliT Cadga murakac. _agremc guli dagiamdes da suli dagi-SoSmindeso, pirjvars iwerda coqalabebia. murakas mohkida Ronieri xelimoZRvarma da datrialda wyalqveS sam-yaro, Zlivs amoisunTqa da kinaRam amo-ayola suli murakam, meore STaflvi-sas isev datrialda TiTqos yve-laferi, gaaxila wyalqveS Tvali dadainaxa mTeli camyari, mesamejeracmisca Tavi soflis mdinares, Caixeda daaxla TiTqos wylis qveS frTxialebd-nen TeTri xundebi. naTlobis saxeli _RvTisavar, xmamaRla dasZaxa mRvdel-ma da gaucina yvelas. axla ukve RvTisTvalqveS idga akankalebuli biWi Rv-Tisavari da varskvlavebiviT ucimci-mebda suli.

sasaflaos darajiaRdgomis Semdeg, brwyinvale Svi-

deulis orSabaTs vxedavdi xolme,fexze matylis windiT da kaloSiT,gakemsili Sarval-perangiT, zed bewvi-ani, umklavebo mosacmeliT , Savi, kax-uri Teqis qudiT, TeTri wveriTa dawyliani TvalebiT. vuyurebdi davfiqrobdi xolme: adamianic mdinarea,ai, rogorc Cveni alazania meTqi. mi-dis, midis da gzas miuyveba, Tavqve kiara, aRma-aRma. rac ufro saTavisakenmidis, TvalebSi cremli ewmindeba,ukamkamdeba. ufro mSvidi da uTqmelixdeba, gaiyurseba raRacis molodinSi,saTovled gamzadebuli midamosaviT.swored ise, rogorc Cveni sasaflaosdarajia, sasaflaos xis WiSkarTan,kaWar qvaze Camomjdari, cremldaw-mendili, xelebakankalebuli, Tavda-xrili da uTqmeli moxuci. Wirisu-flebi rom moinaxuleben Tav-TavianTmicvalebulTa saflavebs, waitireben,Rvinian Wiqebs amoatrialeben, nakurTxwyals moasxamen, endroTi da xaxvisfurcliT SeRebil RaRana kvercxebsdaagoreben, mere gaSlian xelsaxocebsan celofnis parkebs da ToneSi gamom-cxvar paskebs daawyoben, ai, maSingamoCndeba xolme sasaflaos darajic.gicxonoTo, ityvis. erT lukma pursRvinis WiqaSi Caawobs Tavisi akankale-buli xeliT da axla sxva saflavTangadainacvlebs.

bilikze daveweodi xolme da gavu-wvdidi pitnis kanfetebs, papaCemis say-vareli kanfeti iyo da sasaflaoze iserogor wavidodi, misi sayvareli kan-fetebiT ar mqonoda jibe savse. CaiR-imebda uTqmeli moxuci da morcxvadaiRebda gawvdil kanfetebs. wavidodada dajdeboda isev sasaflaos Semosas-vlelTan axlad amosul balaxebSiCagdebul qvaze, mieyrdnoboda zurgiTsasaflaos Robes da axedavda creml-Camdgari TvalebiT zecas. irgvliv kigazafxuli fuTfuTebda CirTiT,kvirtebiT, baiebiT, amoburculi Wian-Wvelis budeebiT, RobesTan amowver-ili WinWris dedebiT da nacarqaTamabalaxebiT. mere erTi suli mqonda,rodis dadgeboda xolme maisi, rom isevsasaflaoze gavqceuliyavi da wameRoCveni ezos askokora kunwula vardebi.erT maisis Tvesac moxuci WiSkarTanaRar damixvda, gamvlelsac vkiTxe dagamomvlelsac, xom araferi iciT-meT-qi. _ visa kiTxulob, sasaflaos dara-jsao? sasaflaos darajma Tavi maik-lao... isedac xom Camofurcluli hqon-da sicocxlis dReebi-meTqi, gavocdi,ra ver atara, ra emZima boloSi ga-suls?! warmovidgine, rogorc misi ga-xunebuli perangi, viTom gadahkida su-li saiqios Robeze, gaiara da wavida...

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_ batono irakli, satelefonosaubrisas miTxariT, vmuSaob da vcdi-lob, Sinidan ar gavideo. ufro xSir-ad wignis prezentaciis Semdeg vxvde-bi xolme mwerlebs, iSviaTad Sevx-vedrivar avtors, romelic TavauRe-blad muSaobs. mainteresebs, ra mdgo-mareobaa es, ra procesia. iqneb am Te-miT daviwyoT Cveni saubari.

_ es CemTvisac saintereso mdgo-mareobaa, imitom rom yovelTvis sxva-dasxvanairad xdeba muSaobis dawyeba.im mdgomareobaSi Sesvlaa rTuli. mw-erali mudmivad fiqrobs raRacaze,misTvis xom arc SabaTia, arc kvira,wers raimes Tu ara, mainc sul muSaobs,SeiZleba saintereso idea hqondes, ra-Racas TiTqos moeWidos, magram Tukiim mdgomareobas ver miaRwia, proces-Si ver Sevida, araferi daiwereba. yov-el SemTxvevaSi, CemTvis asea. ZaliangamixangrZlivda im mdgomareobis mox-elTeba, bevrma raRacam ganapiroba es_ wlebis ganmavlobaSi Sin vijeqi,muSaobis procesSi viyavi, axla ki sam-saxurSi siaruli miwevs, amitom Zalianvelodi zafxuls, roca gaqvs fufune-ba Sin Seiketo da wero. jerjerobiTar vici, ra gamova, vwvalob, magram ax-ali teqsti yovelTvis gawvalebs.Sinidan Tu gavedi, is dRe dakargulimaqvs. arc viRlebi, arc araferi, ma-gram maTxovars davinaxav, viRac ga-momelaparakeba, gadavkocni da sxvaganvar ukve.

_ ufrosi Taobis erT-erTi Cemisayvareli mwerali meubneba, nawar-moebze muSaobas momzadebis gareSeviwyebo, rogor ganviTardeba isto-ria winaswar TiTqmis arasodes vicio.masTan weris procesSi ixsneba siu-Jeti, gansxvavebiT, magaliTad, umber-to ekosgan, romelmac, rogorc ̀ var-dis saxlis~ boloTqmaSi dawera, mTe-li romani windawin icis, samyaro de-talurad aqvs Seqmnili. ambobs: ̀ sam-yaro iyos, sityvebi mova~. TqvenTanrogor aris?

_ ar vici, wagikiTxavT Tu ara ̀ leassaaTi~, is ase daiwera _ daviwye raRac-

ar vici, ra sityvebi vTqva mweralze, romelsac ramdenime winadadebiTSeuZlia adamians gaaxsenos misi arseboba, Caaxedos sakuTar TavSi da mTelisamyaro daanaxos, mere aTqmevinos, me varo ̀ erT dros cidan mowyvetili var-skvlavi, mSoblebis mier erTdroulad CaTqmuli, maTi siyvarulis nayofi,dedaCemis sxeulSi gamoZinebuli, dedis, mamis, bebia-babuebis, maTi mSobleb-is, maTi mSoblebis mSoblebis, ufro iqiT, kidev iqiT, samyaros Seqmnis dRi-dan moyolebuli winaprebis yvela Tavgadasavlis Semswre da Tanamonawile~.ra sityvebi vTqva mweralze, romelmac dawera ̀ moesma, lorTqo jejilis suniSrialebdao~, `mzis sxivi winmswraf sxivs eweoda, qrolvaSive enaskvebodada erTianad almurasuli exeTqeboda miwaso~, an rogor gamovxato madliere-ba imisTvis, rom moaxerxa sityvaSi erTdroulad moeqcia istoria, miliono-biT adamianis piradi Tavgadasavali da uzomo sevda: `modiodnen... moezide-bodnen magnoliebs, zRvas, nestsa da sicxes, napirze daxeTqebuli talRisxmas, dabal koindars... xalxis Tvaluwvdeneli, grZeli rigi moezidebodadamarcxebis simwares, mama-papis samareebsa da Tovlian mTebs, Semodgomiswvimebs, yavaxanebsa da moxaluli yavis aromatiT gabruebul bulvarebs,moezideboda fiWvebs, saxls, kerias, SeCveul da SeuCvevel aqamde nivTebs,romlebic mere gagaxseneben Tavs~...

imaze meti ra unda vTqva, rasac es amonaridebi Tavis avtorze, iraklisamsonaZeze ambobs.

mwerali

iT, romlis gagrZelebac ar vicodi daprincipSi, Tavi vaiZule, mewera. daax-loebiT xuTi Tve vimuSave, magram in-tensiur reJimSi, sxvadasxva periodulgamocemaSi vbeWdavdi nawyvetebs, imi-tom rom ar vicodi, movaxerxebdi

gagrZelebas Tu ara, ra iqnebodaSemdgomi epizodi. raRac vicodi, gu-maniT, kudze mqonda xeli Cavlebuli,magram yvelaferi rom damenaxa _ aseara. aqedan gamomdinare erT romelimegamocemasTan valdebuleba ar amiRia,ase raRacnaiarad avimuSave Tavi. eserTgvari Segnebuli provokacia iyo,razec sakuTari Tavi wamovage. gaama-rTla.

_ `leas saaTi~ raRaciT daviwyeo_ TqviT. riTic nawarmoebi iwyeba,imiT ar dagiwyiaT?

_ ara. sxvaTa Soris, ̀ msuqani meZav-iT~ daviwye, mere daiwera pirveli naw-ili, `mwyeri~ da bolos ZiriTadi _`mcxeTuri puri~.

_ yovelTvis am principiTmuSaobT?

_ ra giTxraT, ase wera CemTvisacsiaxle iyo. magaliTad, ̀ darinda~ erTiamosunTqviT daiwera, is xom ̀ leas saa-Tis~, misi samyaros nawilia, trilogi-is dasasrulia. amitom ufro vicodi,

ra mindoda, ufro mobilizebuliviyavi. Tumca ioli arc is Sroma yofi-la, ubralod, `darindas~ SemTxvevaSiis istoriebi, is ambebi logikur das-rulebas iTxovda, udabnoSi moxe-tiale xalxis darad, `yurTbaliSis~gmiris, `leas saaTis~ personaJebis, imTormeti biWis gzac, bolos da bolos,unda dasrulebuliyo. aqedan gamom-dinare, vicodi, wertili sad damesva.

Tumca axla razec vmuSaob, is daax-loebiT ̀ leas saaTis~ principiT iwere-ba.

_ razea axali romani, batonoirakli?

_ principSi, struqturas gavamx-el, imitom rom erTi nawyveti `liter-aturul gazeTSi~ ukve daibeWda. nas-esxebi sami dRe, sami qariani dRe _aprilis 13, 14, 15 _ oRond sxvadasxvaepoqaSi. rac Seexeba imas, Tu razearomani _ imazea, razec iwereba nawar-moebebi, gansakuTrebiT romanebi _cxovrebaze. roca avtori mxoloderT Temaze wers, mgonia, rom is teqstiar varga, raRacnairad SezRudulia,imitom rom romani cxovrebasaviT aris_ cxovrebaSi erTi Temaa, romelSic

Sen monawileob, magram kidev milioniganStoebaa, xom? asevea romanic.

_ Tqveni pirveli romani, `yurT-baliSi~, wlebis win daibeWda. albaT,ise rogorc bevri sxva, mas xSiradvubrundebi, sayvareli adgilebisgadakiTxviT viwyeb da SeumCnevladCavdivar bolomde, TiTqos mec SigniTviyo. mainc sul cincxali mgonia, jerwaukiTxavi. ra aris misi saidumlo,rogor iwereboda trilogiis pirve-li wigni.

_ ra Tqma unda, moculobiT ̀ yurT-baliSi~ ar aris romani (Tumca Tan-amedrove romanebi mcire zomisaa), ma-gram meCveneba _ ar minda, xmamaRalinaTqvami gamovides _ rom raRacnair-ad, man mTeli epoqa moicva, Cven mierganvlili erTi epoqa, da principSi,romanic Tavis arsSi es aris, is epoqazegelaparakeba. amitomac gavbede da`yurTbaliSs~ mcire romani davarqvi.

gulwrfeli rom viyo, is daiwerarogorc damoukidebeli nawarmoebi,

trilogiis Canafiqri maSin ar mqonia,es mere da mere gaCnda, roca ufro ga-vacnobiere ra msurda, roca bibliurTemasTan aluziebi gaCnda. manglisSivwerdi, daaxloebiT oci dRe viyavi iq.ra vici, etyoba, saTqmeli damigrov-da, rogorc Cans, formazec qvecnobi-erad vfiqrobdi. iq pirvel pirSi mi-dis Txroba, qvecnobieris nakads mi-hyvebi. aqedan gamomdinare, meti gul-wrfelobisTvis, meti Tanaziaro-bisTvis mkiTxvelisa mTavar gmirTan,teqstma sruliad sxvanairi sintaqsi,Tavisi zmna moiTxova. vfiqrobdi,rogor SeiZleba pirvel pirSi moyo-lili ambavi gaxado saintereso, ra xe-rxiT miaRwev amas. Tu daakvirdebiT,teqnikurad, es aris erTi adamianisTvaliT danaxuli samyaro. roca amasraRacnairad CemTvis mivageni, amanmkiTxvelis Tanagancda gamoiwvia, imi-tom, rom mkiTxvels gauCnda iluzia,rom es misi Tavgadasavalia, TviTonmoZraobs, sakuTari TvaliT xedavs.

Semdeg mqonda rTuli periodi, im-denad gamitaca weris amgvarma formam,rom TiTqmis yvelafers ase vwerdi,oRond ar vaqveynebdi _ imitom, rom`yurTbaliSs~ hgavda.

`leas saaTSi~ sul sxva gziT wavedi,Tumca amas wlebi dasWirda.

_ werdiT da ar aqveynebdiT?_ ra Tqma unda. marto me ki ara,

saerTod, mwerali asea. aucilebeli araris, gamoaqveyno, magram aucilebe-lia, wero. magaliTad, `darindaSi~,aris erTi monakveTi, devnilebi svane-Tis erT-erTi gziT rom gadmodian. esadgili gacilebiT didi xnis win mqon-da dawerili, is monakveTad arsebob-da, magram mwife ar iyo, rogorc Cans,Tavis dros eloda.

weris procesi exmareba mwerals. TuCanaweri mexsierebas darCa, ese igi, mas-Si raRac marcvali devs, ubralod,misi dro jer ar damdgara. ase xSiradyofila, raRac Canawers mogvianebiT,sadRac gauxsenebia Tavi. dedaCems CemiZveli nawerebiT savse Cemodani aqvs,arafers yris, mec aRar viqeqebi, gone-ba ukeTesad inaxavs.

_ saocari ramea es wera. raRacidumali, uaxloesi da realuri kav-Siri ibmis personaJebsa da mweralsSoris. avtori TiTqos maTi nawilia,erT-erTi maTgania. sxvanairad kargiteqstebi albaT verc Seiqmneba. ma-galiTad, Tqveni mwyeri `leassaaTidan~ _ is iseTi cocxalia, ise-Ti namdvilia. saidan aseTi siaxlovemasTan, akvirdebodiT?

_ mwyerze warmodgena ar maqvs, meis ar vici.

_ masze arc ginadiriaT?_ erTaderTxel SaSvze vinadire

guriaSi da mere Zalian vinane. mwyerzeki, jer Cems megobars, Sadiman SamanaZ-es vkiTxe, Zalian kargi monadirea, mere_ mezobel biWs, isic nadirobs. icode,ras Wams, rodis mofrinavs, rodis mi-frinavs, ra znisaa. mere mis tyavSi undaSeZvre. sxvanairad ver dawer.

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gorakisad arian elmer, herman, berta, tomi da Carli?susti nebisyofis, mklavmagari, jambazi,

loTi, CxubisTavi?yvelas, yvelas sZinavs gorakze.

erTs cieb-cxelebiT amoxda suli,erTi maRaroSi amoibuga,erTi CxubSi mokvda,erTic cixeSi CaZaRlda,erTi ki xididan gadmovarda, col-SvilisaTvis

lukma-puris Sovnisas.yvelas, yvelas sZinavs, sZinavs, sZinavs gorakze.

sad arian ela, qeiT, megi, lizi da edit?mosiyvarule, gulubryvilo, kiskisa, amayi, bednieri?yvelas, yvelas sZinavs gorakze.

erTi nabiWvris gaCenas gadahyva,erTi _ uaryofil siyvaruls,erTi xelSi Caakvda viRac naZiralas bordelSi,erTic Selaxulma siamayem Seiwira,

gulissworis ZebnaSi.erTi ki Soreul londonsa da

parizSi cxovrebis mereCamoaTries Tavis provinciul sivrceSi elam,

qeiTma da megim.yvelas, yvelas sZinavs, sZinavs, sZinavs gorakze.sad arian Zia isaaki da deida emili,da beberi Toni qinsedi da sevin hafToni,da maiori uokeri,saTayvanebel revolucionerebs rom esaubreboda?

visac mkvdari vaJebi Camousvenes omidan,vis qaliSvilebsac daungries cxovrebada visi atirebuli Svilebic umamod datoves _yvelas, yvelas sZinavs, sZinavs, sZinavs gorakze.

sad aris beberi mevioline jonsi,sicocxles rom eTamaSeboda oTxmocdaaTi weli,SiSveli mkerdiT TovlWyapsac rom ar epueboda,svamda, Cxubobda, arc colze fiqrobda da

arc STamomavlobaze,arc oqroze, arc siyvarulze, arc samoTxeze?oh! enas aWartalebs imaze,

odesRac rogor wvavdnen Tevzsda rogor imarTeboda doRi klaris tyeSi,razec eib linkolnma TqvaerTxel springfildSi.

margaret fuler slekime viqnebodi jorj eliotiviT didi,rom ara bediswera.SexedeT Cems fotos, feniviTis gadaRebuls _xelze dayrdnobili nikapi,

Rrmad Camjdari Tvalebi _ruxi da SorsmWvreteli.magram erTi ZvelisZveli problemis winaSe videqi:gauTxovroba sjobda, qorwineba,

Tu Tavze xelis aReba?mere mdidari afTiaqari _ jon sleki gamearSiya,momatyua. dampirda,

rom dro meqneboda Cemi romanisTvisda mec gavyevi colad, rva Svili gavaCineda veRar movicale werisTvis.da mainc, es yvelaferi me gadamxda.xelSi nemsi rom viCxvlite,bavSvis sarecxis recxvisas.da movkvdi kriWaSekruli, ironiuli sikvdiliT.gamigoneT, ambiciuro adamianebo _seqsi aris sicocxlis wyevla!

minerva jonsime minerva var, soflis poeti qali,soflis qajebi rom awiokebdnen da abuCad igdebdnenmouqnelobis, sielmisa da barbaciT siarulisTvis.

da ufro _ maSin, „buC~ veldim romCamigdo xelSi sastiki devnis mereda bedis anabara mimagdo doqtor maierTan.mec davnebdi sikvdils, TandaTan vSeSdebodi,

terfidan Txemamde,TiTqos ufrodaufro Rrmad Sevdiodi

yinulis dinebaSi.vinme Tu moubrundeba soflis gazeTsda wignad Seagrovebs leqsebs,me rom davwere?siyvarulis gamo mwyuroda ase!sicocxlis gamo mSioda ase!

dok hiliquCaSi davyialebdi zemoT-qvemoT,win da ukan, dRisiT da RamiT.Tumca, mTeli Rameebi vzrunavdi Raribebze,avad rom iyvnen.da iciT ratom?cols vZuldi, biWi saxlidan wavida.mec movubrundi xalxs da mTeli siyvarulimaTken mivmarTe.ra kargi iyo, molze Segrovili xalxi rom vnaxeCemi dasaflavebis dRes.vismendi maT butbuts siyvarulsa da tanjvaze.magram, oh, RmerTo Cemo! sulSi Jruantelma damiara

da Zlivs SevZeli,axali sicocxlis moajirs CavWidebodi,rodesac em stantoni davinaxe muxis ukan,saflavTan,sakuTar Tavs da dards rom malavda.

zanas vitiTeqvsmeti wlis viyavi, saSineli sizmrebiT,TvalebSi wreebiT da nervuli sisustiT.da ver vimaxsovrebdi wakiTxul wignebs,rogorc frenk drameri, sul furcel-furcel rom axsovda yvelaferi.da weli mqonda susti da vRelavdi.da viyavi dabneuli da gakveTilebze ena mebmodada roca vdgebodi, raRac zepirad rom meTqva,

maviwydeboda,rac mqonda naswavli.hoda, doqtor vizis reklama vnaxeda yvelaferi iq wavikiTxe, SaviT TeTrze.TiTqos micnobda mecda im sizmrebsac,romlebsac ver gaveqeci.ase rom, vicodi _ naadrevi sikvdilisTvis

viyavi ganwiruli.da vdardobdi, sanam ar gavcivdi.da mere sizmrebic Sewyda.bolos ki tkbilad daviZine, sizmrebis gareSe.aq, gorakze, mdinaresTan.

sara braunimoris, ar itiro, me ar vwevar am fiWvis qveS.zafxulis nazi sio CurCulebs bibina balaxSi,varskvlavebi cimcimeben, Ramis frinvelis xma ismis,magram Sen mainc mwuxare xar.

Cemi suli ki aRtacebuliasaukuno sinaTlis kurTxeul nirvanaSi.midi Cems gulkeTil qmarTan,vinc dardobs imaze, rasac Cvens damnaSave

siyvaruls uwodebsda uTxari, rom Cemi Sendami siyvaruli aranaklebia,

vidre misdami,ramac gamoWeda Cemi bediswera.sxeuliT movipove suli da suliT _ simSvide.samoTxeSi ar aris qorwineba,magram aq _ siyvarulia.

Targmna qeTi niJaraZem

edgar li mastersi_ `klaknili WiaRuis~ gadasansvlis mere, ni-

skarts rom `amayad gailesavs~ da `mwyrobis das-turad pawia klanWebs erTxel, orjer da samjergausvams~ miwas, esec mosmeniT iciT?

_ es nanaxi maqvs, erT axlobels hyavda saxlSi._ vfiqrob, drois ̀ marTva~ mxatvrul teqsteb-

Si saintereso Temaa. bevri avtoria, romelmac esver moaxerxa, ver miagno xerxs, romliTac drosnawarmoebSi bunebrivad moaqcevda. `leas saaTSi~ki ori saukune daatieT.

_ Cemi azriT, mwerloba aris sityviT xatva, ram-denad vaxerxeb amas, sxva ambavia. enobrivi qsovilimwerlisTvis upirvelesi saSeni masalaa, aqedan ga-momdinare, ̀ leas saaTSi~ im TiTqos arqaizmebma, Seg-nebulad ̀ daZvelebulma~ enobrivma formebma, raRacmoitana, drois SegrZneba gaaCina. sxvadasxva epoqazewerisas Txrobis manerac Sesabamisad icvleba. eserTgvarad gexmareba mwerals, mosawyeni ar gaxdesSeni Txroba, yovel SemTxvevaSi, me ase meCveneba. Tum-ca marto amiT ver miaRwev sawadels, iq gmirebic sain-teresoni unda iyvnen. upirveles yovlisa, weris pro-cesi mwerlisTvis unda iyos saintereso, sworedamazea damokidebuli mkiTxvelis dainteresebac. meTu mombezrda, Tu ver movaxerxe ise movyve, rogorcCavifiqre, mkiTxvels rogorRa gaitacebs Cemi Txro-ba? xom marTalia?!

_ da ase nel-nela iqmneba axali cxovreba, axa-li samyaro. saocreba ar aris?

_ saocrebaa. Tu mwerali xar, raRac axal sam-yaros qmni, axal planetas igoneb _ mgoni, amis tol-fasia.

_ Tqvens samwerlobo enaze Sadiman SamanaZemyvelaze ukeT Tqva: `es aris ena, romelic namdvilmwerals da zogadad qarTul enas ekadreba~.

_ me rom mkiTxos kacma, namdvilad ar var kargimoqarTule, amas zedmeti Tavmdablobis gareSe vam-bob. sadac nugzar SataiZea, oTar WilaZea, rezoinaniSvilia da sxvebi _ iq me ver var didi mo-qarTule. ubralod, minda, cocxali istoriebimovyve, es ki xerxdeba mxolod im SemTxvevaSi, Tu per-sonaJis tyavSi SeZvrebi da iqidan, Signidan ilapar-akeb; maSin enac cocxldeba da muSaobas iwyebs. CemSemTxvvevaSi, albaT, es ufroa. amaSi dramaturgiadamexmara Zalian.

_ ra TvalsazrisiT?_ Txrobis TvalsazrisiT. yvela ambavs, maT

Soris epizods, Tavisi ganviTareba aqvs. da rac we-Ran giTxariT, gmiris tyavSi unda SeZvre-meTqi, esdramaturgisTvis bunebrivia, misi profesiis nawil-ia. Tu personaJis agebis teqnikas, ambis ganviTareb-is teqnikas ar flob, piesa ver daiwereba.

_ dramaturgiaSic iseve warmatebiT muSaobT,rogorc prozaSi. ra gansaxvavebaa TqvenTvis am orsferos Soris. ratomaa, rom karg prozaikoss Sesa-Zloa araferi gamouvides dramaturgiaSi, an piri-qiT.

_ mTavaria, prozisa da dramaturgiis grZnoba-Ta buneba erTmaneTSi ar agerios. piesa xom Teat-risTvis iwereba, aqedan gamomdinare iq pirobiTobaZalian mniSvnelovania, prozaSi ki _ detali. rocagrZnobaTa bunebas, raRacnaiarad, Sens samsaxurSiayeneb, roca Tavad marTav process da zustad iciliteraturis orive sferos mTavari specifika, ma-Sin raRac Sedegamde midixar. Tavs ar viqeb, magramvambob, rom is codna Zalian damexmara. davuSvaT,`yurTbaliSi~ _ iq praqtikulad dialogi ar aris,magram ambis arqiteqtonikiT, kompoziciiT, is Zaliandavalebulia dramaturgiisgan. Tumca es mwerlissamzareuloa, mkiTxveli amaze ar unda daixarjos,mkiTxvelamde unda miitano samyaro, romelic or-ganuli, cocxali, moqmedi da sainteresoa.

_ moTxrobebis, romanebis weris survili ra-tom gaCnda?

_ raRacnairad Sinaganad, organulad moxda _aRar ginda aq, sxvagan ginda, Tavi gamoscado. miwazear mimuSavia, magram vici, miwas asveneben xolme. hoda,davasvene niadagi, rasac dramaturgia hqvia, axlaaqeT maqvs Jini, mere dro gava da, Tu cocxali davr-Ci, SeiZleba isev iqiT mibruneba momindes, asea.

_ ̀ komediidan tragediamde absurdis bileTiT~sabas nominanti gaxda.

_ krebulisTvis Svidi piesa Tavad SevarCie, rad-gan mimaCnia _ es an asea, an ar aris ase _ rom TuraRac gamikeTebia dramaturgiaSi, yvelaze metad imSvid piesaSi Cans. rCeulia, praqtikulad. gamomcem-lobebi piesebis gamocemas eridebian, imitom romrTulad iyideba. saerTod, saqarTveloSi imdenadmwiri bazaria, rom sagamomcemlo saqme Wirs. am vi-TarebaSi gamomcemeli Tavad rom gTavazobs krebu-lis dabeWdvas, avtorisTvis es bevrs niSnavs. `in-teleqts~ didi madloba minda, kidev erTxel Se-vuTvalo, es piradadac araerTxel miTqvams maTTvis.wlebia, vTanamSromlobT da CemTvis komfortia maT-Tan muSaoba.

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